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The Menendez Brothers: Victims or Killers? | The True Crime Case · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: about probably one of the most infamous sibling murder cases,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but also one of the most infamous cases,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the 90s. It really coincided with the heavy
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  Speaker 1: media tension in the 90s with the O.J. Simpson case,
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  Speaker 1: also with this case, the Menendez brothers. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: most of you know who the Menendez brothers are, but
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  Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about them today and deep dive into what crimes
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  Speaker 1: they committed and a little update on what's going on
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  Speaker 1: and a new Netflix show that came out about them
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  Speaker 1: at Monsters and how that kind of tells the story
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  Speaker 1: in a loose, kind of weird way. We'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into it. But For those of you who
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  Speaker 1: don't know, the Menendez brothers, Lyle and Eric, became infamous
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  Speaker 1: for the brutal murders of their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez,
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  Speaker 1: in 1989. The gruesome case not only captivated a nation,
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  Speaker 1: but also opened up a conversation about family, media sensationalism,
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  Speaker 1: and the criminal justice system. And the trial, which unfolded
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  Speaker 1: across three separate hearings, saw both brothers sentenced to life
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  Speaker 1: without parole. It's not really a spoiler alert, they've been
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  Speaker 1: in there for a while. Although their guilt was never
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  Speaker 1: really in question, but the reasons behind their actions remain
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  Speaker 1: subject to an ongoing debate. And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today, along with the show that
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  Speaker 1: just came out and the public perception of whether they
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  Speaker 1: should be in prison or not. So without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: what we always do and go back a little bit
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  Speaker 1: and talk about the family. Specifically, obviously, the Menendez family.
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  Speaker 1: Because to understand the full scope of this case, one
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  Speaker 1: must go back and look at the family's background. Jose Menendez,
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  Speaker 1: first born in Cuba, was a self-made success story. He
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  Speaker 1: immigrated to the US after the Cuban Revolution, determined to
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  Speaker 1: build a life through hard work. And his determination led
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  Speaker 1: him from washing dishes to a high-profile career as an
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  Speaker 1: entertainment executive. But first, Jose would attend a Southern Illinois university,
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  Speaker 1: where he would meet his future wife, Mary Louise Anderson,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise known as Kitty. And his wife, Kitty Menendez, was
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  Speaker 1: a former beauty pageant contestant. And they would be married
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  Speaker 1: in 1963, and that is when they would move to
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  Speaker 1: New York, where Jose would earn his accounting degree from
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  Speaker 1: Queens College. And the couple's first son, Joseph Lyle, who
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  Speaker 1: goes by his middle name, Lyle, was born January 10th,
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  Speaker 1: 1968 in New York. Kitty would quit her teaching job
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  Speaker 1: after Lyle was born and the family would move to
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey where Eric would be born November 27th, 1970
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  Speaker 1: in Gloucester Township. And the family would live in Hopewell
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  Speaker 1: Township where both brothers would attend Princeton Day School. So
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  Speaker 1: the couple's image really reflected like the American dream, especially
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  Speaker 1: at the time with successful careers, wealth, and two talented
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  Speaker 1: sons that they had. Jose would later become an executive
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  Speaker 1: at Hertz Global Holdings and later at RCA Records. And
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  Speaker 1: in 1986, the family would move to Beverly Hills, California,
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  Speaker 1: when he was appointed CEO of Artisan Entertainment, then known
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  Speaker 1: as Live Entertainment. And their Beverly Hills mansion had been
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  Speaker 1: previously owned by celebrities like Michael Jackson and Elton John,
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  Speaker 1: symbolizing their high status. And Lyle, the older son, was
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  Speaker 1: basically primed to follow in his father's successful footsteps in business.
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  Speaker 1: He would attend Princeton University, but he would be placed
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  Speaker 1: on academic probation for having terrible grades, and he would
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  Speaker 1: also be suspended for plagiarism. Whereas Eric, the younger brother,
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  Speaker 1: earned average grades but had a remarkable talent for tennis.
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  Speaker 1: He would even go on to become a nationally ranked
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  Speaker 1: tennis player at only 18 years old. So outwardly, the
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  Speaker 1: Menendez family wasn't all perfect, but it seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: the American dream family. But beneath the surface, it was much,
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  Speaker 1: much darker. Because according to Lyle and Eric, their picture-perfect
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  Speaker 1: childhoods were a complete facade. Because the brother's defense during
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  Speaker 1: the trials centered around accusations of at the hands of
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  Speaker 1: their father and their mother by extension.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I was about 11. Did she help
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  Speaker 5: you with your baths?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And how old do you believe you were when that happened?
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  Speaker 7: I was in sixth grade. I guess, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 7: I was 12.
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  Speaker 5: And was that within a year of the episode you
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  Speaker 5: previously described at 11?
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Alan had begun thinking back to some very disturbing things
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  Speaker 4: he had witnessed at the.
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  Speaker 1: Menendez house, as had cousin Diane Hernandez.
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  Speaker 4: He would take their heads and push them underwater until
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  Speaker 4: they started panicking and needed up. He would let them
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  Speaker 4: up again.
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  Speaker 1: Because their father, Jose, was apparently a very domineering figure,
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  Speaker 1: not only pressuring the boys to succeed at academics and athletics,
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  Speaker 1: but also allegedly them physically and mentally. And Kitty, meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: was described as a very passive and distant mother who,
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  Speaker 1: according to the defense, was aware of the... and it
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  Speaker 1: didn't help to stop it. And testimonies in the trial
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  Speaker 1: would reveal that she struggled with alcoholism and also struggled
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  Speaker 1: with mental health issues, rendering her a very ineffective protector
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  Speaker 1: of her kids. The prosecution, however, painted a very different picture,
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  Speaker 1: which we will get into further along, so stay with me.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into the days leading up to the murder.
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  Speaker 1: So like I said, leading up to the murder, Lyle
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  Speaker 1: and Eric would start planning their crime meticulously. To prepare,
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  Speaker 1: they would purchase their weapons that they would use later
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  Speaker 1: on on their parents. So on August 18th, 1989, two
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  Speaker 1: days before the murders, the brothers would go to a
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  Speaker 1: Big Five sporting goods store in San Diego and they
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  Speaker 1: would buy two 12 gauge shotguns, which is still just
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  Speaker 1: crazy to me that you could just buy that the
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  Speaker 1: same day. I... We're not going to get into that.
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  Speaker 1: But they would choose this location because it was far
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  Speaker 1: enough from Beverly Hills, minimizing the chance of anyone actually
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  Speaker 1: recognizing them. And the brothers tried to be really obscure
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  Speaker 1: when purchasing the weapons using fake identification and claiming that
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  Speaker 1: the guns were for hunting. They would also buy ammunition
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  Speaker 1: and other equipment such as shotgun shells loaded with buckshot,
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  Speaker 1: which we will see down the line will cause significant
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  Speaker 1: damage to whatever you shoot. And after that, Lyle and
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  Speaker 1: Eric would begin working on their alibi. So on the
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  Speaker 1: night of the murder, they would purchase tickets to go
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  Speaker 1: see the movie Batman. I can never think of Batman
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  Speaker 1: the same after this case, which they claimed to have
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  Speaker 1: seen at a local theater. This was the cover-up because
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  Speaker 1: they would actually be going to their parents' house and
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  Speaker 1: doing what they did. So on the night of the murder,
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  Speaker 1: Jose and Kitty would be relaxing in their den in
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  Speaker 1: their family Beverly Hills mansion. Jose would be seated on
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  Speaker 1: the couch watching the television and Kitty was lying on
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  Speaker 1: the other end of the couch, either sleeping or reading,
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  Speaker 1: we're not quite sure. And Lyle and Eric would wait
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  Speaker 1: until their parents were more vulnerable and in an unsuspecting state.
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  Speaker 1: And once that happened, Lyle and Eric would enter the
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  Speaker 1: den with armed shotguns. Lyle, the older brother, would take
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  Speaker 1: the lead first. Without warning, he would aim the shotgun
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  Speaker 1: at the back of Jose's head and pull the trigger,
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  Speaker 1: firing at point-blank range. And this is with a shotgun, so.
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  Speaker 1: The force of the blast killed Jose instantly, obviously, and
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  Speaker 1: he would slump over the couch after the fact, and
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  Speaker 1: blood would be splattered all everywhere around the room. The
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  Speaker 1: crime scene photos I do not recommend looking at and
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  Speaker 1: I will not show them here. And Kitty obviously being
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  Speaker 1: awakened by the gunshot would be next. She would attempt
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  Speaker 1: to escape but disoriented and in a state of panic
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  Speaker 1: she managed to get up from the couch but before
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  Speaker 1: she could run out of the room Eric chased after
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  Speaker 1: her firing multiple rounds as she tried to She would
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  Speaker 1: be hit in the leg and she would collapse near
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  Speaker 1: the entrance of the den, but Eric would just continue
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  Speaker 1: to shoot, aiming at her head and her body, ensuring
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  Speaker 1: that she was fatally wounded. Kitty would be shot a
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  Speaker 1: total of nine to 10 times. I've kind of seen,
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  Speaker 1: they were collectively shot 14 to 15 times. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's maybe hard to, determine how many times because
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  Speaker 1: a shotgun blast is so widespread. But according to forensic analysis,
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  Speaker 1: the bullets left her face completely unrecognizable and she would
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  Speaker 1: suffer massive injuries across her torso as well. And the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the injuries were so severe that investigators initially
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  Speaker 1: thought that this had to be part of a mob
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  Speaker 1: style execution. which ended up working in Lyle and Eric's favor.
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  Speaker 1: But after Kitty collapsed from being shot, the first initial times,
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  Speaker 1: Eric and Lyle would circle back to Jose and Kitty
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  Speaker 1: and make sure that they were killed. So the entire
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  Speaker 1: attack really only took a few minutes, but Kitty and
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  Speaker 1: Jose's body were left in a extremely gruesome state. And
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  Speaker 1: by the end of the massacre, about 14 to 15
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  Speaker 1: rounds were fired. six into Jose, and about 10 into Kitty.
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  Speaker 1: And to cover their tracks after the murder, the brothers
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  Speaker 1: would drive to Mulholland Drive to dispose of the shotguns
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  Speaker 1: by dumping them into the canyon. And after they would
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  Speaker 1: return home, back to their house in the Beverly Hills,
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  Speaker 1: where they would place a frantic call to 911. And
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  Speaker 1: Lyle would be just sobbing on the phone, claiming that
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  Speaker 1: they had found their parents shot to death in their house.
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  Speaker 1: after returning from the movie. And their alibi at first
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  Speaker 1: really held up and the police really didn't suspect them
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  Speaker 1: at all. They didn't even actually swab them for shotgun residue,
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  Speaker 1: which helped them later on in the case, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: we know how it ended up. but initially it did
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  Speaker 1: help them. However, they would act very odd after their
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  Speaker 1: parents would die, which would then make them look suspicious,
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  Speaker 1: starting off with very extravagant spending and erratic behavior following
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  Speaker 1: the murders, which raised some big red flags to the
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  Speaker 1: people investigating the case. And the 911 call is like,
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  Speaker 1: believable which kind of adds to the whole trial and
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  Speaker 1: stuff to really good really good acting because we know
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  Speaker 1: that they killed them like we know that much they
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  Speaker 1: they admitted to that so we know that eric was
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  Speaker 1: faking the call so that that doesn't work into their
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  Speaker 1: favor but anyway here.
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  Speaker 3: It is what's the problem what's the problem what's the
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  Speaker 3: problem i'm sorry to kill my What?
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  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 3: Are they still there? Yes. The people? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Were they shot?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Matthew.
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  Speaker 3: Were they shot? Yes. They were shot?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: One out of two, one out of two is shot.
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  Speaker 3: 722 North, anyone on the phone?
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  Speaker 6: No!
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  Speaker 3: I have a hysterical person on. I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 3: to him further. I don't even know if he's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Is the person still there? We have units around. What happened?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Who shot who? I don't know. You
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  Speaker 3: came home and found who shot? My mom and dad.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know if they're still in the house, the
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  Speaker 3: people that did the shooting? I don't know. Okay. Let
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  Speaker 3: me talk to Eric. Who was the person that was shot?
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  Speaker 3: So like I said, following the murders instead of displaying
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  Speaker 3: signs of grief like most people would.
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  Speaker 1: You think? Especially if they did it. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: people would like overly act like they were sad if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want to go to jail, but the boys didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric just began spending lavishly. Within six months,
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  Speaker 1: they would spend $ 700, 000 of their father's money. Lyle would
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  Speaker 1: purchase a Rolex, a Porsche, and an entire restaurant in Princeton,
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  Speaker 1: while Eric would invest in a personal tennis coach and
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  Speaker 1: even would try his hand at concert production, spending $ 500, 000 $ 40, 000
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  Speaker 1: on a failed rock concert. The brothers would also travel extensively,
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  Speaker 1: vacationing in the Caribbean and enjoying a lifestyle far removed
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  Speaker 1: from mourning sons. So naturally their extravagant spending raised some
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  Speaker 1: red flags within the investigation team. At a time when
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  Speaker 1: they probably should have been grieving, at least fake grieving,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they were indulging in a high rolling lifestyle
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  Speaker 1: that seemed very out of ordinary for what had just
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  Speaker 1: happened to their family. So it wasn't long before law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement began to view them as suspects. And despite their
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  Speaker 1: initial escape from suspicion, it was actually Eric's overwhelming guilt
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  Speaker 1: that ultimately led to the brother's downfall. Eric had been
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  Speaker 1: in therapy with Dr. Jerome Oziel before the murders. And
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  Speaker 1: after the killings, the therapist reached out to him again.
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  Speaker 1: So in a series of therapy sessions, Eric eventually confessed
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  Speaker 1: to Dr. Oziel that he and his brother had killed
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  Speaker 1: their parents. And unbeknownst to Eric, Oziel had actually taped
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  Speaker 1: the therapy session. And Oziel's involvement would later become pivotal
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  Speaker 1: to the trial. He would confide in Judilon Smith, a
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  Speaker 1: woman who he was having an extramarital affair with, and
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  Speaker 1: Smith reported the taped confessions to the police. And the
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  Speaker 1: issue of whether these tapes were protected by doctor-patient confidentiality
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  Speaker 1: became a focal point later in the legal battles over
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  Speaker 1: the next two years. But ultimately two of the tapes
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  Speaker 1: containing confessions were admitted into evidence. So the first trial
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  Speaker 1: began in 1993 and the courtroom drama captivated the nation.
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  Speaker 1: Separate juries would be compiled for each brother and the
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  Speaker 1: trials would be broadcast on court TV, which had basically
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  Speaker 1: just launched and really capitalized on the public's fascination with
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  Speaker 1: high profile legal cases, which we have seen with OJ
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  Speaker 1: Simpson's case, Ted Bundy's case, even like Johnny Depp and
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  Speaker 1: Amber Heard's cases, etc. And the trial became a media sensation,
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  Speaker 1: drawing endless analysis and attention, both for its soap opera-like
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  Speaker 1: elements and for the sensational claims made by the defense.
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  Speaker 1: And let's get into the defense.
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  Speaker 5: You said at some point your father had sex with you.
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  Speaker 5: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: It started with, after sports practices, he would massage me. And, uh,
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  Speaker 6: we would have these talks, and he would show.
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  Speaker 1: Me, and he would.
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  Speaker 6: Fondle me, and he would ask me to do the
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  Speaker 6: same with him, and I would touch him, and we
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  Speaker 6: would undress.
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  Speaker 1: So what was so pivotal in the case for the
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  Speaker 1: defense on their side was that Eric and Lyle had
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  Speaker 1: been driven to murder because of years of and emotional abuse.
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  Speaker 1: from their parents. Lyle's and Eric's testimony would provide very
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  Speaker 1: graphic accounts of their father's alleged and misconduct. Lyle's testimony
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  Speaker 1: would provide very graphic accounts of their father's misconduct.
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  Speaker 6: She harassed me.
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  Speaker 7: What do you mean she harassed you?
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  Speaker 1: She just kept.
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  Speaker 6: Exposing herself. Picking me up at the clubs with, you know,
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: in a robe, exposed, leaving her underwear around, calling me
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: into the room when she knew that she was, you know, changing.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And he would describe a cycle of manipulation and fear
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and control that continued throughout their lives. Eric would also
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: recount very similar stories, saying that the... continued well into
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: his teenage years.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: These episodes with your father, what time of day did
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: they usually occur?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: At night.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Before or after dinner? Either before or after.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: Usually before when he got home from work, but sometimes
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: it would happen after.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: If it were before dinner, would you still be expected
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: to come down to dinner?
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: Yes, unless I was unable to.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: And were there times when you were unable to eat dinner?
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: There were times when I was unable to come down
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: to dinner.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Why was that?
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Because I was crying too much or I was too
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: much of a mess and I was shaking and I couldn't.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: And the defense portrayed Kitty as just a broken woman
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: who was overwhelmed with depression and alcohol and drug use,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: unable to protect their kids from Jose's tyranny, basically. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: there's also accounts that she was also guilty in said
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: as well, allegedly.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: She would come in after I'd been in there a while.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: She would help wash my hair and wash me with
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: a sponge.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And Eric's attorney, Leslie Abramson, became a household name basically
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: due to her vigorous defense on her client. She argued
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that the brothers genuinely feared for their lives. And according
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to the defense, the murders weren't premeditated, but an act
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of desperation to free themselves from their father. However, the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: prosecution would present a very different narrative, arguing that the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Menendez brothers were motivated by greed and greed alone. Prosecutors
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: would point to the brothers' reckless spending after the murders
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: as evidence of their true intent. They argued that the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: brothers killed their parents just to gain control of the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: family inheritance, essentially, which at the time, their life insurance
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: policy was worth about $ 14 million, which in today's money,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: is $ 35. 5 million roughly. So a lot of f *
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: * * ing money. And this would add weight to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the argument, although legal technicalities did prevent the brothers from
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: collecting on it. So the first trials of Lyle and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Eric Menendez actually had a hung jury, with the jurors
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: divided on whether the brothers actually committed the murders or
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: were acting in self-defense. The trial would last six months
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and was an absolute cultural phenomenon, reflecting the nation's deep
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: divisions on family abuse, wealth and justice. Some viewers would
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: sympathize with the brothers, believing that their claims of and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: saw the murders as just a tragic consequence of their
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: tortured childhood. And others would view them as just spoiled,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: wealthy young men that took advantage of their parents and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: committed a monstrous crime. So immediately after the trial, a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: retrial was announced. And the second trial would be held
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in 1995. And because of the media circus that happened
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: with the first trial, Judge Stanley Weisberg decided to ban
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: television cameras from the courtroom for this trial. Additionally, the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: judge would rule that there was insufficient amount of evidence
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to rule that the claims were valid, severely limiting the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: defense's arguments. So in March 1996, after the second trial,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric Menendez would be convicted of two counts
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of first degree murder.
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: Murder of a Maria Menendez, a human being for financial
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: gain while lying in wait with a firearm.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: The prosecution had successfully portrayed the brothers as cold-blooded killers,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: motivated purely by greed. And on July 2nd, 1996, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: day after I was born, which is weird, I just
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: know that my mom was probably watching this while giving birth,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: which is weird to think about. I think she was, actually.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I gotta check in on that. But this makes a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: lot of sense for me doing this kind of stuff now.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: About it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm having like a moment right now. Anyway, on
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: July 2nd, 1996, both brothers would be sentenced to life
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in prison without the possibility of parole. And the public
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: who had been absolutely encapsulated by this case for seven
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: years had seen all this drama finally come to an
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: end and people were still divided. And Lyle and Eric
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: would initially be sent to separate prisons for their sentencing,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: but in 2018, they were actually reunited and allowed to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: serve their time together in San Diego. And over the years,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the brothers have actually become mentors to the other inmates,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: particularly those who have suffered. Eric leads self-help groups, while
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Lyle continues to advocate for his and his brother's innocence,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: insisting that the abuse that they suffered justified their actions.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And the Menendez brothers' case continues to fascinate the public,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: as we've seen, with documentaries, TV shows, and books revisiting
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the tragic story. Because the case opened a larger conversation
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: about the nature of family... and its potential long-term effects.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: But it also underscored the ways in which wealth and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: media can influence the public perception of crime, which we've
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: talked about and which we've seen. So like I said,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: numerous documentaries have chronicled this case, exploring the different aspects
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of the trial and the crime. One of the earliest
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: documentaries was the 2000 episode, of Menendez Brothers' Blood Brothers
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: from Court TV series Mugshots. And this was followed by
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: American Scandals in 2015 with Barbara Walters, which featured an
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: episode titled Menendez Brothers, The Bad Sons.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Their story continues now, the scene being set for murder.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Describe your relationship with your father.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: What words come into your mind?
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Brutal.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Painful.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And other documentary specials like Truth and Lies, The Menendez
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Brothers 2017 have aired on ABC, shedding light on the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: psychological and familial dynamics at play in the murders. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in 2021, ABC's 2020 aired a special titled Inside the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Menendez Movement, highlighting a growing trend on social media, particularly TikTok,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: where younger generations express sympathy for the brothers, focusing on
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the alleged... But they suffered.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: But I do not think that anyone in their right
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: state of mind would do what they did to their parents.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Looking at the case of the Mendez brothers is literally
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: so heartbreaking and I don't know how they're not out
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: of jail. But when I tell you that if I
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: was the people that were in their lives and I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: was hearing all the stories that was coming out about
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: their parents, do you? I would have turned into a
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: whole different person. I would have been calling the police, CPS.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I would have been calling the FBI. I would be
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: calling everybody in their mom's.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So the documentary basically examines how the Menendez brothers have
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: become controversial figures in modern discourse, with many now questioning
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: whether their sentence was justified. And the Menendez case has
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: adapted into several films and television specials. In 1994, CBS
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: aired Menendez's a killing in Beverly Hills, a made-for-TV movie
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: depicting the murders and subsequent trial. The brothers were also
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: portrayed in 2017 Lifetime film called Menendez Blood Brothers. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that same year, NBC released A Law and Order, True Crime,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: The Menendez Murders, an eight-episode series that provided a more
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: sympathetic view to the brothers, focusing on the alleged that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Jose put upon them, allegedly. And this one specifically would
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: garner significant praise, earning them actually a primetime Emmy nomination
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited Series, given to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Eddie Falco. And even in comedy spaces like Saturday Night Live,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: there was a parody of The Brothers Trial in 1993.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And in the 1994 movie, Natural Born Killers, they loosely
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: referenced The Brothers. And their story even made brief appearances
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: on shows like The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and The Sopranos,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: underscoring how the case really permeated the public's consciousness. The
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Menendez brothers will be free before I am. The Menendez
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: brothers got home one time. Which brings us to today.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And recently, only a few days ago, a new Netflix
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: series called Monsters, which is actually the second installment from
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the first installment, which was about Jeffrey Dahmer, the Jeffrey
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Dahmer story. Now, Ryan Murphy and Ian Brennan made Monsters. monster,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the Lyle and Eric Menendez story. And it's basically just
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a retelling of the infamous crime with its lead up
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and aftermath that took place on August 20th, 1989. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I watched it and.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Um, I just, I don't know. Hollywood specifically telling these
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: kinds of stories, similar to Dahmer. I love Evan Peters.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk about that for a minute. I think
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he's a fantastic actor and he does an amazing job
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of any role that he plays. And that's kind of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: how I feel about the actors in the Lyle and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Eric Menendez story. I think everyone acted so well and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it was so well done that if it was just
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: like a fake you know, story, I'd be more enthralled
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: in it and impressed by it. But since it's a
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: real story and it plays on things that are true
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and things that maybe are true and very sensitive topics,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's just like, they Hollywoodize it, I guess. I don't know.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And they really draw it out to where near the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: end of it, it kind of just got like stale
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and lost. for me, but we'll talk about it a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: little bit. So basically, it follows the brother, Lyle and Eric.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Lyle being played by Nicholas Alexander Chavez, and Eric being
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: played by Cooper Koch. And it's about them having endured emotional, physical,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and the series argues at the hands of their father.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: So it plays into that that happened, or at least
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they show it because they bounce back in different time frames.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of showing that that was the case.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And it may very well be the case, but in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the sentencing, it doesn't turn out that way. So it's,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it's a bit like, again, very Hollywoodized, but Jose played
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: by Javier Bardem, which is one of my favorite actors. Okay.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: By far again, amazing performance. He plays a evil dad,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: basically so well. I I'd recommend just watching it because
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it is, it is a good show. Like besides all
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of it, you know, the things being Hollywoodized and all
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And also Kitty, played by Chloe Savini,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: she did also an extremely, extremely good job. Very convincing characters.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And it basically tells the chronicles of the brothers' upbringing
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and the murders and everything thereafter. So the show attempts
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to unpack the circumstances that led up to the crime
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: while highlighting Eric and Lyle's trauma. But in the end, again,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the narrative almost feels like futile. And I'm not alone
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: in my opinion either. Other outlets feel like this, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: also more importantly, well, I guess kind of importantly, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: brothers themselves, at least Eric, spoke out about it saying
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: he was not happy, basically. He said the 53-year-old criticized
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the show, calling it a dishonest portrayal of the 1989
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: murders of his parents, Jose and and Marie-Louise Kitty Menendez,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a crime he and his brother obviously committed. He would
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: also go on to say, I believed we had moved
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: beyond the lies and ruinous character portrayals of Lyle, creating
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a caricature of Lyle rooted in horrible and blatant lies
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: rampant in the show. I can only believe they were
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: done so on purpose. It is with a heavy heart
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that I say I believe Ryan Murphy cannot be this
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: naive and inaccurate about the facts of our lives so
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: as to do this without bad intent. Eric would continue,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: it is sad for me to know that Netflix's dishonest
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: portrayal of the tragedies surrounding our crime have taken the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: painful truth several steps backwards. Back through time to an
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: era when the prosecution built a narrative on a belief
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: system that males were not and that males experienced trauma
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: differently than women. And he also stated that Murphy, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: creator of Monsters, shapes his horrible narrative through vile and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: appalling character portrayals of Lyle and me in a disheartening slander.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: He went on, is the truth not enough? Let the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: truth stand as the truth. How demoralizing is it to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: know that one man with power can undermine decades of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: progress in shedding light on childhood trauma? And that's, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't know, Like, I know that, you know, they're in
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: prison and we don't know what happened before. But I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: what he says in a whole is true and just
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: talking about you know um of of boys in general
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: over girls or just in general you know how it's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: undermined so i i i don't know how ryan murphy
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: would feel about that after portraying that but again they
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: are murderers so it's like It's just a big this. Like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where I stand. I'm not gonna
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: say where I stand. Do I think they should be
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in prison? I'm not gonna say, honestly. Hurting a child,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: like in any awful way, you should burn in hell,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: kind of. And then is that justified if that happened
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to you in there? Probably, but do we know if it,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. So it's just a big, I don't know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But essentially, let's go back to the show. And obviously
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: there are spoilers, not really spoilers, because if you listen
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: this far in the video, you know exactly what happens.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: But basically it opens in October, 1989, two months after
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Kitty and Jose's death. Eric and Lyle are riding in
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a limo as Kenny G's songbird plays on the radio.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric head to their parents' memorial service. Lyle,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the older brother, seems unbothered and controlled, but Eric begins
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: sobbing uncontrollably, seemingly out of nowhere. So the scene immediately
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: illustrates who the men are. One brother is emotional and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: all feeling and the other is tightly wound and rageful.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And from there, the narrative jumps back and forth in time.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It unpacks the reign of terror that permeated the Menendez
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: household and pushed the brothers to homicide. Bardem, as I said,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: is terrifying and vile as Jose in a good way,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: like acting wise. And Savini portrays a compassionless, pathetic excuse
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of a woman in the best way. And for their parts,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Eric and Lyle are a grotesque blend of entitlement and prey,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: which is probably why Eric doesn't like how he was
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: portrayed in the film or how his brother was portrayed
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: in the film. And the first episode ends with a gruesome,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the gruesome killing of the Menendez parents. My God, it
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: is jaw-dropping. And it's, you know... well done for Hollywood. Again,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: did it happen exactly like that? I don't know. All
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: we have is accounts, but it is gruesome all the same.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And then it goes into the months following the murders,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: where the brothers, specifically Eric, are very tortured by the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: images of his dead parents in his brain. And Eric
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: would end up confessing to the therapist, Dr. Jerome Ozeal,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: played by Dallas Roberts, which eventually leads to the arrest
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of Lyle and Eric. So like I said, again, the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: first half of the Pretty good. But by episode five,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: The Hurt Man, it is really a standout among the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: other episodes. Because basically, there's no visual actually depicted in,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: which I did appreciate. But Eric speaks to his lawyer, Leslie,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: at length in a vivid detail about the lifetime grape
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and abuse he endured at the hands of his father.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And this episode is cleverly shot in one long take
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: as the camera slowly zooms in on his face. But unfortunately,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: following this fifth episode, the show kind of falls off.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: for me. It kind of teeters between ominous and like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a light camp. There's also a weird scene where we're
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like the toupee, it's kind of weird and overdone. You'll
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: see it if you watch the show, but the rest
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: of the episodes are like just kind of repetitive, essentially.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Like in episode six, Don't Dream It's Over, it kind
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of goes over more of Jose and Kitty's relationship and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: how their courtship happened and everything. And while it showcases
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Savini and Bardem's abilities to act, it doesn't really add
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: to anything, and the remaining episodes are equally as taxing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: In addition to the Menendez family, just as they did
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in Dahmer Monster, the Jeffrey Dahmer story, Murphy and Brennan
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: platform some major players orbiting the brothers and their trials,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like Vanity Fair reporter Dominic Dune, played by Nathan Lane,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and how he fixates on the case and its details.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: After losing his own daughter to an act of violence,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he becomes absolutely consumed with making sure that Eric and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Lyle are punished, especially in the court of public opinion.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And in episode seven, Showtime, and nine in Hangman, it
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: re-imagines Kitty and Jose's murder in Dominic's perspective, essentially. He
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: also narrates how the brothers navigate prison, including their relationship
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: inside and outside of prison walls. So that part was
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: pretty great, and it does add to the story overall.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: And in the series, as in real life, the brothers
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: have two trials spanning over seven years. But the courtroom
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: scenes in Menendez are just very dragged out and tiresome
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: almost because the tone is already so off kilter. These
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: sequences are like strange and never ending. So despite like
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the extremely gripping subject matter and outstanding performances, Monsters, the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Lyle and Eric Menendez story kind of fell flat in
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: my opinion. Therefore, it just kind of dissolves into a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: retelling of unspeakable- gruesome crimes. Again, very Hollywoodized. But I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: do think that they did a good job of imitation almost.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of TikToks that are side by side
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: of Eric and Lyle in real life and Eric and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Lyle in the show kind of doing the same movements
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and all that. So there is attention to detail, but
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: not in the right ways, kind of, I guess. Hard
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to explain. Not saying you shouldn't watch it. It's just,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I always think you should keep that in mind, especially
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: watching real life to TV versions of what actually happened.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: They're always gonna romanticize it in Hollywood. There's always gonna
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: be something they missed or some overarching idea that they missed.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: But with the release of the show, the public's interest
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: has naturally reignited as each generation discovers the case anew.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: The narrative surrounding the brothers continues to evolve and shaped
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: by new media interpretations and cultural shifts in how society
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: views crime and justice. But the Menendez brothers' story is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: one of tragedy on multiple layers. It is a story
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: about a wealthy family torn apart by and violence and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: conflicting narratives about the motive and responsibility. And whether driven
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: by genuine fear or greed, Lyle's and Eric's actions resulted
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  Speaker 1: that captivated the world. And decades later, as we are
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  Speaker 1: true crime community and in the broader discussions about interactions
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  Speaker 1: and Hollywoodized and all that kind of stuff. But this
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  Speaker 1: to this day. I mean, it's, very infamous and whether
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  Speaker 1: they should be set free or whether it was justified
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