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Paul English Live 100526,,- From On-Air Chaos to Gog and Magog: Paul Gunson, Eli James and a Night of Big Questions · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

• 0:16
  Unknown: This mirror stream is brought to you in part by
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  through iteraplanet.com.
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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
• 1:41
  Unknown: Nope. What about that? Go and check your audio settings
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  because that... You sound all tinny as if you're on
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  Unknown: something else. You know what I mean? Right. I'll I'll check the audio settings as we speak.
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  Right.
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  How's that? Is that better? I'll put the volume
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  up a little bit.
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  Is that better, Paul?
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  Unknown: It's a bit funny. We've got to start though now, so...
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  Okay. We go. Don't
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  Unknown: worry. Yeah. Okay.
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  Unknown: Strange. I know it's strange.
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  Unknown: See what I can do. Audio.
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  Let's see if there's some airing there.
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  We're two minutes past, Paul.
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  Unknown: I've got something.
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  Hi everybody. Sorry about this. Just got a big technical cock up taking place right now. Sorry about that.
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  I've
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  got something coming in my head.
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  This streaming to rumble lark is doing my head in,
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  frankly.
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  I had enough of it. Oh, what's going on here?
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  Where is that coming from?
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  Unknown: Nothing's happening on Rumble.
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  Okay. Let's share.
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  Can you hear me, Eric? I can hear you loud and clear. Is that better? I've I've been fiddling with a microphone. Is that better? No. And I've got something...
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  Unknown: Oh, god almighty tonight.
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  What a pain in the ass.
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  Unknown: Something's gone wrong?
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  Unknown: Well, I'm hearing some music from someone. I can't cut it off, and I don't... I'm not even playing anything. Something's coming through.
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  We're not going out yet. It's just dead air at the moment. The
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  sound's coming through in the wrong place. I'm gonna have to reboot everything. Just hold on. Come back in the studio in a minute. Alright? I'm gonna have to shut my browser down or something. Okay.
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  Unknown: I'll I'll put some messages in in in the chat. Yeah.
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  Unknown: Hello, Eric. Can you hear me? I can hear you now. Is is there I'm sorry. I've got something from hell has taken place. I've got some music coming in my head. I've turned everything off, and I... And it's not even going out. Paul Paul sent you... American Paul sent you a message,
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  Unknown: and he said he can fix it. Hello. Do you want me to fix it? And he can't get into the studio. He says, I know what is wrong with at least a couple of things, but I can't talk to you either. No. I can't. If I'm not in the studio.
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  Unknown: He is... Well, okay.
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  Well, he is now.
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  Unknown: Hi
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  there. Hello, Paul. You got got a couple of issues. First of all, Eric,
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  your microphone device is set wrong. So
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  go to the microphone that you are set to
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  and set that to the right one.
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  Unknown: Oh,
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  Unknown: found out where it was. Wait a minute. Okay. Okay.
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  Unknown: Two things. No. It's alright. Just I'm
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  fine now. I
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  didn't have any problems at all. Had a oh dear me.
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  No, it's only ten past days, it's been dead for all this time.
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  Never
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  Unknown: mind. You still got you still got an issue. Eric, your microphone is set to the wrong input device
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  and there's a high pitched squeal coming from your channel that is basically drilling its way through my skull.
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  Change your microphone setting
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  to a different microphone.
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  Alright? Alright. And Paul, if you have an errant sound coming into your headphones...
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  Unknown: No, it's okay. I've sorted it. Forget it. I've sorted it. I've sorted it. It's sorted. Okay. Cool. Chill. Okay. How's that? Is that doing anything? No. No?
• 9:38
  Unknown: Change mic. Well, I'm actually on the same setting as I've always been.
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  Unknown: Alright. Good evening, everybody. Hello. Finally, at last. I think we get this show underway. I'm terribly sorry about that. We had a whole series of extremely
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  wonky tiresome disasters there, right at the beginning of the whole thing,
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  which was
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  was fun, wasn't it? I think it was fun. It used to be called fun.
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  Anyway,
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  Paul English live a little bit later than usual. Ten past eight, so we had about eight or ten minutes of dead air there. My apologies for that. This is episode one sixty one, and think episode is the right way to start it. So anyway, let's kick off with some music, and then we'll get into a little chat, and I'll get me trousers on.
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  I want to blame everybody except me,
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  so that's what I'm gonna do.
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  Well, hi there, everybody. We're just gonna over FFT at the moment because I've had I've had too much fun here at the beginning. We've got Eric in the background. I'm still pressing a few buttons, so you're just gonna have to forgive me whilst I look for some other route in here because
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  this is like every weekend again. It's all started happening again, which is really, really irritating
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  that we cannot get onto Rumble.
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  So I'm gonna try and give it a go. Okay. Right. We've got a stream coming through. Let's get onto YouTube first. Let's see if we can do that.
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  And are we gonna get onto YouTube? I hope we are.
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  No. Can't get into either of them this week.
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  Dear me. Right. So,
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  let me just check a couple of things here. What a what a what a bummer. Oh, no. We're on YouTube at last. My giddy aunt. God. That's... Of course, we're not getting on to Rumble again because it doesn't matter what I do to get on to Rumble. Won't do it these days because of this stupid thing.
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  And I'm always starting off slightly cross, aren't I? Don't I start off cross with the whole thing?
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  Anyway,
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  let me just check a couple of things here. Eric, are you there? I'm here. I've changed my microphone settings. Does it sound better now? Yes. Sound like Eric again.
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  Unknown: Hey.
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  Something some... There's a ghost, I think. There's some pervert or something that got into my machine and changed
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  one of the little buttons around
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  for some unknown reason.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Hey. I just wonder if you had a Windows update recently. Have you had one? Did you have one this week? Yes. Yes. That's it. There's the there's the little bastard.
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  The little bastards, they do it all the time, don't they? They do. Great. Oh, god. Blimey. I need some performance enhancing drugs after that little bit. That was the worst start ever. That was the worst start ever. So we've set a new low tide watermark
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  for actually kicking the show off properly. We're ten minutes in. Haven't said anything intelligent yet.
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  Anyway, quick shout out to everybody. We're here this Paul English live. We're here on FFT radio.
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  I'm looking at all the chats. There won't be much going on in Rumble again tonight. I've tried four different ways to get into the damn bloody thing. You can tell I'm cursing and spitting feathers about it. We're still going out over YouTube though. We've just connected to YouTube. It's because I had to switch streaming providers after ten minutes and all this kind of stuff. Isn't it boring?
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  God, it's dull. But can you tell there's a little bit of fire in the back of me, Eric? I'm a bit cross. It certainly is. There certainly is. But that's... It
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  Unknown: gives you a little bit of
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  edge, doesn't it? Because I found out something. Do you know that film,
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  what was it, The Death of Stalin,
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  Unknown: where... Yes.
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  Unknown: Have you what? Have you seen it? Well, I haven't seen it in full. I've seen bits of it on YouTube, and apparently,
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  the bloke works the part of Djukov,
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  where they had a sort of like a pre,
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  what do you call it, party, you know, where all the all the actors get... Marshall Djukov. Hi. He's he's played by...
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  Didn't he go to the party? What? In real life? In real life. And what happened? Yeah. When he came on the set,
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  he he deliberately
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  was... Did not show himself to the other actors and came off... Came on the set
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  in the image of Djukov, and it worked.
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  And it worked on film, a kind of imposing image. And he he apologized to all the actors afterwards, and he said he bothered. But he said, it gave it that edge
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  because people were really surprised, they sort of stood back because he he was... He'd never met them before, and he was sort of bellowing at them as if he was Joukov,
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  and it worked on film.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, we re... I re... We rewatched that
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  about ten days ago, it's brilliant, it's absolutely fantastic film.
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  Who
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  plays Zhukov,
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  I've forgotten his name now.
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  A Jewish bloke, wasn't it? What's his name? Something? Jeremy Isaacs, is it? Or something like that or... No. Played
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  Voldemort. No. He played the... He played some
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  wizard, evil wizard in the old character.
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  Yeah. He is. And he's also played Captain Hook, and he's good. And, anyway, I don't... If you've got to watch it because Zhukov is a Yorkshire man.
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  It. Hang on. It's a Jason Isaacs. Here. Look at you. Jason Isaacs.
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  It.
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  We
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  think he's like it's like the Yorkshire stereotype on steroids. It's absolutely fantastic. He's Brilliant. He goes up and he smells this bloke's hair, and he goes, oh, you smell nice. He's wanting Coco Chanel, take a shit on your head.
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  Unknown: That's a classic. And and when he goes into the cars, he says, is it amazing how... There's pictures of this son of Big Cheese up in the cars, and he said, it's amazing how his eyes follow you around the room. He he really
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  Unknown: is a clever actor. He He really really is. Is. It's a bloody funny film. It's it's... You've gotta watch it. It's it's hilariously funny and full of these mad insane things, which feel kinda true. It's like, yeah, it's a bizarre sort of pantomime of a film.
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  And there's another one that the same team did, because that's that guy, Armando Iannucci,
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  I think, who wrote... Writes these things. His his his dialogue is fantastic. I think he's part of the key writing team anyway. And then there's another one they did called, oh, it's a political thing. I can't remember the name of it. It keeps jumping out of my head. We rewatched that. It's about this sort of dweeb y little politician over here who ends up sort of saying all the wrong words at the wrong time and almost starting a war,
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  and they have to go to America.
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  And you've got to watch that too. It's wonder... It's dark black satire of an English hue out of these islands of the best possible type. It really is. A bit like...
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  Unknown: A bit like the mouse that roared with Peter Sellers
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  Yeah. 1959.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Now, just to let you know what we've got in store tonight, hopefully, more technical mayhem. We're certainly not going out on Rumble. So if anybody who's in YouTube hears me, if you've and you're also on Rumble, go over it. I'm gonna have to get Rumble nailed down because I'd really prefer us to be on Rumble rather than YouTube, to be quite honest, but never mind.
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  It's just a bit frustrating because I know that people, you know, kinda build these things up. However,
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  coming up, in a few minutes time, Paul Gunson's gonna be joining us, which might be a new name to everybody.
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  It was certainly a new name to me about seven or eight days ago when I first spoke to Paul,
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  and that's courtesy of the wonderful Maria who's putting me in touch with the whole universe. I'm getting overwhelmed, Eric, because I can't
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  I I can't keep in touch with all these. I need a new diary. I need a personal assistant.
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  I need everything. I need to be looked after, as you can tell from the start of this show today.
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  So that's there. Also, coming up, and this is really rather
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  fortuitous as well. Eli James was on a couple of weeks ago.
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  He's also gonna be joining us again for the last hour,
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  and depending on what Paul says, he might even put in before then. I spoke to Eli today, so those of you that have caught him the last couple of times when he's been on here,
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  will know that he's been faced with some tremendous logistical challenges. He's been moving,
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  which is quite a thing for a man with a quintuple heart bypass. Seriously, although I spoke to him today and you wouldn't know, he's just full of beans.
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  And he was sorting out all his books and and records and all that stuff. Do you ever have to do that sort of thing, Eric? Yes. Sort out your mess? Yeah. Well, I I live in a bleeding mess most of the time. So, yeah, I have to sort out my mess. Yes. So... Yes.
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  Unknown: But that's life, ain't it? I mean, I think they say, what is it? It's a sign of an active mind if you're bit untidy.
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  Unknown: So there we go. Yeah. Is that your excuse?
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  Why I here. Yeah. It's mine too. I'm sticking to it. I really am. I'm sticking to that.
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  I think...
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  Yeah. I think I've been a bit too creative for a bit too long.
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  I really do.
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  I really do. I've got... Oh, we're gonna talk about doors again, but we gotta wait until Eli comes on. You know we were talking about doors the other week, Eric. Mhmm. Oh, yes. Yes. We had a lot of interesting door chat. My door situation has still not improved very much. The front door is still a recalcitrant bugger.
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  And the back... However, today,
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  at Le Super Marche,
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  as I'm out shopping, I bump into my next door neighbor, as you do. Mhmm. Me, great guy, fantastic. And he knows a guy called Mark, who knows another guy who knows... No. A guy called Mark, and I've got his phone number. So I'm going to get Mark to come around and sort out our door because I've gotta do it. I've got to put me hand down. You know what it's like. I'm from the North. I hate that. I hate it. But Mark It's gotta be done. It sounds like what a dog with a hair lip does, doesn't it, Mark? Sorry. Mark. It does. Oh, it's a it's a terrible joke, ain't it? Yeah. It is. Yeah. It It is. Is. I'm laughing. I've heard it before.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. No. No. It's very good. Very good. Actually, I just had a dog barking. Did you hear it? About five minutes ago. There's one over the road. He barks. I've got, how warm has it been with you today? Sorry. We're gonna bring Paul on momentarily. We've gotta have a bit of weather chat. It's been boiling here I've
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  Unknown: some very sad news. I do hope that people
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  are holding the tears back.
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  My cow plant
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  has been attacked by bloody caterpillars,
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  deceased
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  caterpillars now, because they're they're eating all the bleeding leaves away. Little bastards.
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  Mhmm.
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  And I don't know how they got there because it was in their greenhouse. So how did they get in the greenhouse?
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  Unknown: I don't know. Weird,
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  Unknown: isn't it? Anyway, I've replanted it now, so it's outside.
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  Unknown: So I hope it stands up to the weather conditions. It should do. So there we go. The weather... Oh, that's fantastic. I went for a walk by the beach today as I do. I haven't been for one for a few days. I've just been sort of, you know, pressing all the wrong buttons in my life, metaphorically speaking. So I went for a walk down by the beach. It was lovely this afternoon. It really was absolutely fab,
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  and I had a brilliant... Where are we now? Thursday. Tuesday, I had a great chainsaw day again with the micro, the hand chainsaw,
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  which the more I look at it, the more scared I get of it. Actually, it's scarier than the big ones,
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  because you could easily, if you've got it in your hand,
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  sort of clunk against something and get it going and cut your leg off. I'm serious. It's really... I'm going, bloody hell. Need to be... Because it... The the big ones has got this extra... Big ones has got... Oh, my language tonight's appalling, isn't it? The big ones have got this extra sort of safety guard on the front. So if you fall forward, it clicks in and shuts it off. It's really quite cool. Right? Nice. But this one doesn't. It's a bit free flowing and it's more like a sort of cult 45. It's the cult 45 of the chainsaw world. You just... It's like a hand one. It's... Well, I'll tell you, I took I took some branches down, Eric. And the thing is, I'm now faced with the problem that I thought I would worth, you know. You look at these trees, they're going up to the sky. Think there's quite a bit of tree up there, but you don't realize just how much there is. I've taken half,
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  just over half of the first one down. I've got seven running down the side. I've got six more down, one one length of the garden. I've taken half of it down,
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  and it's about
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  five feet high, the pile, and it's big, and I'm going, oh, I can't take them all down at once. This is gonna be a long winter job, so... But they're... Well, hang on a moment. It's it's bonfire night soon, and there's a nice...
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  Unknown: People might want it for their guy night, won't they?
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  Yes. Yes. Yes. They might.... And things like that. So Yeah.
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  In fact, you can have a guy folks night, couldn't you, with... And do what we used to do when we were kids, and that is make our own... Show us how what my dad used to do. He used to soup up the fireworks because we couldn't afford the expensive ones. So he used to soup...
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  And he made a a v one rocket.
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  Unknown: Oh, I'd like a nice v one rocket. That would be great.
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  Because we're allowed to go up. Anyway, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. I'm just thinking. I said that I'd bring Paul on about quarter past, it's now twenty two minutes past, but that's due to seven minutes of cock ups courtesy of yours truly. Hello. Good evening, everybody. Have I shouted out someone on WBN three two four? Hello. If I'm still there, they might have fired me by now. I think we are anyway.
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  We're on FFT radio, which is where you get the best audio, by the way, just to let you know. Although it should be pretty good on YouTube. And I've had a word through that says that we are going out on Rumble, but for the life of me, I have no idea why. Oh, a message in. Yeah. It just... I just put a message there. Please go to YouTube and all you... Wait. So I don't know. I haven't checked it. If you get a chance to listen to... I can't I can't stick my ears in. I need an extra head. That would be really good. But anyway, so we got Paul's coming up We're on. Within the next minute, I'm gonna put Paul Paul onto the stage. On
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  Rumble. We are on Rumble. Yeah. This all turned out. What am I talking about? I'm like a big girl. It's ridiculous.
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  I'm gonna fire myself, but not until after the show. Okay. We'll have to do that. But anyway, look, Paul Gunson is our first guest of the evening. He's gonna hog the mic, and, I spoke to Paul, as I said the other week, and,
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  courtesy of Maria who put us in touch. We had a couple of fantastic conversations. And
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  Paul, Paul Gunson, welcome to the show. You've been very patient dealing with all this stuff that's been going on. Thank you.
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  Unknown: Hi, guys. Can you hear me okay?
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  Unknown: We can hear you great. Can you hear us okay?
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Confused, but yes.
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  Unknown: It's
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  not... Sometimes it's a bit mayhemical.
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  Unknown: I think that's the word. I thought I was the only one who had technical meltdowns.
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  Unknown: No. I I did it on purpose, Paul, to make you feel good. Okay. I always do that. Nice to see I'm in good company.
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  Yeah. Yeah. No. It's... Well, apparently, we're we're all going tickety boo everywhere now, so that's fantastic. But I... Anyway, whatever. Let's not talk about that anymore. So
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  I don't know if many people know about you, Paul, because certainly before... I bet they do, of course. You're about to tell us that we're all complete ignoramuses and been living in a cave for some time. But until Maria mentioned you to me about ten days back and they were at a chat, I didn't know a great deal. I know that you've been on with a couple of things, maybe with UK column and stuff like that. But because I suspect that you are a new character around here for most of the listeners on this show,
• 25:40
  maybe a little bit of micro bio about,
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  you know, here you are on Thursday evening. How did you get to this point talking to reprobates like me and Eric?
• 25:49
  Unknown: Well, how long have you got?
• 25:51
  Unknown: Well, you've got an hour and a half. So shall we sit down? I'll put... I'll just get me a pint. Go on. Get stuck in. Down. Get a Get the popcorn out, and you
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  Unknown: might you might want a couple of tissues as well.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I I mean, to be fair, I I I have been around.
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  Like
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  like yourself, I never knew who you were until the same conversation.
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  So, you know, I think what we've got in this,
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  whatever this is, truth movements,
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  sharing information,
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  the revealing of
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  normally forbidden knowledge.
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  There are various circuits, and I've certainly been on The UK circuit
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  for about,
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  well, certainly two or three years.
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  But what I have found, Paul, is that it's a it's a very exclusive
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  circle.
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  You know, we kind of think when we get on these kind of calls that all of a sudden there's, you know, three, four.
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  The
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  issue is this revealing
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  of knowledge and information,
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  it's so
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  sporadic that
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  even if you had all the talk hosts and all the shows and all the people who, you know, have these kind of open discussion, micro opportunities,
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  debates,
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  discussions, whatever word you want to use.
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  It's
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  it's so minority.
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  It's not.
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  Hence that's the reason why I'm on the tour, because
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  my goal is to
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  reach out to as many people as one who will listen.
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  And Marie from the Mycelian Group is one of those people. We met
• 27:36
  two or three years ago, and I've I've certainly spoke at the Mycelium Group
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  along along with other events throughout The UK,
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  even Ireland. I I went on an Ireland tour
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  last year.
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  And yeah,
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  it's just such a small
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  environment.
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  So the numbers are just not here yet. Now I do believe that that's changing.
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  And as I
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  try to explain in our conversation,
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  I come at this very much
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  from a biblical angle,
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  having spent forty years,
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  not universally
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  diving into, you know, theology,
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  but just trying to understand the narrative that was being presented to me.
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  And,
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  you know, even going to, you know, a regular church and what have you,
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  I was just never ever,
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  ever satisfied with what I was hearing.
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  It was all lovely and it was all nice and it was all, you know, fluffy and,
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  you know, gang gang gooey gooey around the, you know, the Marbury bush. It's a bit like that, isn't it? Yeah. It does go a bit like that. Yeah. Does. Yeah. And I'll be I'll honest with you, though, you know, I I went along with it. I didn't I didn't shout and scream, but I just knew that what I was hearing
• 28:56
  wasn't what I was... I I wouldn't say it wasn't what I was looking for. It it was that I wasn't being told what I was looking for, if that makes any sense.
• 29:05
  Yeah. And if if I kind of tried to put it into
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  a very short statement to, you know, try and engage conversation with you guys is I
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  found myself as a as a youngster, do you ever remember the saying, you wouldn't know the saying,
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  you know, black sheep of the family?
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  Well, I
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  a black sheep of the family. Now I wasn't
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  a bad kid. I was,
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  you know, I
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  went with the rules, I followed, you know, wait till your dad gets own type of approach, and that was my life, you know. But I wasn't
• 29:39
  looking for trouble and I was never really in trouble,
• 29:42
  but I was inquisitive.
• 29:44
  And from a very early age, I'm listening
• 29:47
  to what people are saying to me and I'm saying,
• 29:51
  hold on. That doesn't
• 29:52
  that doesn't sound right to me.
• 29:56
  Unknown: Yeah. What what what... When
• 29:58
  you have this little questioning period, I know it's never stopped, but when did that start? What decade going back in time? I
• 30:05
  Unknown: mean, I was born in 1960,
• 30:07
  so I'm giving my age away. Me too.
• 30:10
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  And you're called Paul.
• 30:13
  Unknown: Come on. Paul. I mean, fucking common as muck on this call, isn't
• 30:18
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. They are, actually. You know what? I saw a thing, Paul, the other day that said the most common popular name in England for boys in 1960 was Paul.
• 30:28
  Unknown: Well, I was actually... Yeah.
• 30:30
  When my mom and dad first got married, we lived with
• 30:34
  my dad's sister
• 30:36
  sister
• 30:37
  and husband.
• 30:38
  And they had a baby boy. I mean they had three kids before four kids before my
• 30:43
  cousin was born. And guess what his name was? Paul.
• 30:47
  And we and we were living with them. So, like, you know, whenever the whenever the name Paul, we didn't know we were... Which baby was gonna respond.
• 30:55
  You know what I mean?
• 30:57
  Unknown: Paul. Paul. Paul. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get... We've got another one in here as well in America. If you heard the American voice, that's a Paul. That's three here already. We haven't even signed. Eric, have you got a Paul anywhere in your name?
• 31:09
  Unknown: No.
• 31:10
  But that's appalling, isn't it? But I I might change it by depol so... To
• 31:15
  save any confusion so I could be Paul as well. Okay, Paul? Or Bruce? Yeah. That's fine. I can live with that. So,
• 31:22
  Unknown: yeah, so so in answering to your question, Paul Yeah.
• 31:25
  Even
• 31:27
  from an early age, I would say...
• 31:29
  Oh, I don't know if anyone remembers the seventies, but do you remember when the Encyclopedia
• 31:34
  Britannia came out and you could get it from your local market, you know, your local newspaper
• 31:39
  store and shop?
• 31:41
  Well, where everybody else was going in and buying, you know, sweets, I was going in and buying those encyclopedias
• 31:47
  and I ended up with the 18 volume.
• 31:49
  Now,
• 31:50
  at the time, I would say I was more interested in the pictures than the reading.
• 31:55
  But I started to look at things like Egyptology.
• 31:59
  I was fascinated by the
• 32:02
  pyramids and
• 32:03
  ancient civilizations
• 32:05
  all
• 32:06
  of the commonalities.
• 32:08
  And I'm thinking, well, hold on, you know,
• 32:12
  there was no connection to these organizations
• 32:14
  or these civilizations.
• 32:16
  You know, they're two, three, five, 10,000 miles apart, but now why are these pyramid structures,
• 32:22
  why are they so similar in
• 32:25
  design? And I thought,
• 32:27
  what am I missing or what's missing here? And I kind of went down that rabbit hole, if you like. Yeah. Looking
• 32:34
  at cultures,
• 32:35
  looking at ancient history.
• 32:38
  And even today,
• 32:39
  I'm an avid researcher,
• 32:42
  and hence the word research is what it says.
• 32:45
  You research that which has already been researched.
• 32:49
  For
• 32:51
  me, it never ever ends and there will never ever ever, in my opinion, be a conclusion to knowledge.
• 32:58
  So I can honestly say from a maybe
• 33:01
  just before entering into my teens,
• 33:04
  I was always inquisitive
• 33:06
  and I would always ask questions and I would say, well,
• 33:09
  I hear what you're saying, but, you know... And anyway, so for the long story short,
• 33:15
  I I kinda
• 33:17
  felt there were three questions that I just wanted an answer to.
• 33:21
  And and those three questions were,
• 33:24
  where did we come from?
• 33:26
  Why are we here,
• 33:28
  and where do we go after we've finished being here?
• 33:32
  Unknown: The... Just the little small questions, Paul. Those are just the tiny ones. Well well, I I They're eternal, though. They're brilliant questions. Yeah. They're brilliant. But but I didn't think that they were difficult questions. So
• 33:43
  Unknown: what I found whenever I went and we have quite a large family, my dad was one of 12 siblings.
• 33:51
  He lost his dad when he was young,
• 33:54
  eight.
• 33:55
  My oldest uncle who's my godfather,
• 33:57
  he's now just turned 80,
• 34:00
  he being the youngest of them, he was kind of put through the scholastic routes, whereas everybody else went out to work, my dad was ex Navy,
• 34:10
  life
• 34:11
  saving fireman.
• 34:13
  And, you know, everybody just did what everybody did. They worked hard and blah, blah, blah. So I kind of grew up in that era.
• 34:21
  But what I did find is is I had these three questions. So whenever we had a family
• 34:27
  get together, which were quite often because there was, like, 300 cousins. So whenever there was, you
• 34:33
  Unknown: know, bad I know that. My mom was one of eight. It's getting freaky what you're saying. Right? I I gotta just chip in now because I'll forget later. My mom was one of eight, so it was big on that side. Big on your dad's side. Right? And then my dad was in the navy. I just thought I'd let you know. Carry on.
• 34:49
  Unknown: Yeah, so anyway, so whenever we had a get together, you know, a christening, a
• 34:55
  baptism, whatever,
• 34:57
  wedding, funeral,
• 34:58
  as we did, because I lost a few
• 35:02
  uncles and aunties to
• 35:04
  cancers and various things growing up, a couple lost in the war and what have you.
• 35:08
  So
• 35:09
  death wasn't I wasn't adverse to death,
• 35:12
  but I still had these questions. So whenever we went to a get together, I would always target the priest or the vicar or whoever, you know, Father Ted or whoever
• 35:22
  was presiding.
• 35:24
  And I would go up to them and I would ask them those three questions. And you know what, Paul? Not one of them could ever answer the question.
• 35:31
  And this one guy who I thought, you know, sort of
• 35:35
  elderly to me, I mean, was only, let's say, in my teens at the time,
• 35:40
  And I just said to him, can you answer these three questions? And I hit him at him and he said, look, he said, no, we can't. And said, well, why? I said, you know, you're a religious leader and you know, you've given out
• 35:53
  these sayings and readings and biblical messages and surely, you know, he says, look,
• 36:00
  we're theologians,
• 36:01
  we're only repeating the message,
• 36:03
  you know, we don't speculate.
• 36:06
  And that kind of bedoodles me, if you like.
• 36:10
  And I thought, well, if these religious people who were telling people what's, you know, this is how you live your life, this is the code of conduct and this is what you do, blah blah blah, but they don't believe it themselves, well, that's a little bit hypocrisy to me.
• 36:23
  Unknown: Yeah, you don't say. Look, I
• 36:26
  feel like I'm on a sort of a reciprocating
• 36:29
  wavelength, the way that you're approaching it was exactly my experience as well.
• 36:34
  Unknown: Exactly. It's almost the same. Yeah. So anyway, but this one guy was at
• 36:39
  least open and honest to say, look, we're theologians,
• 36:42
  we prepare the lesson, we read the scripture and we try and get some kind of consistent message.
• 36:48
  So I thanked them. I said, okay, thanks for your honesty, blah blah blah, but it doesn't answer my questions.
• 36:54
  Cut
• 36:55
  the long story short, I kind of
• 36:58
  started to think, god, there's got to be more to this life than what I'm seeing. And as I say, I wasn't,
• 37:05
  you know, I wasn't looking for any trouble or trying to cause any problems. I just wanted answers.
• 37:10
  Anyway, so I I got into my later teens, sort of 15, 16. But what always struck me, I was never religious. I was never looking for God, I was never looking for the church, etcetera, etcetera.
• 37:21
  I just wanted those questions answered in.
• 37:24
  And what I found as a child growing up, do you ever remember every Christmas it was always be the 10 commandments, it would be the life of Christ,
• 37:34
  Well,
• 37:35
  I
• 37:36
  couldn't help but watch those programs and I'm thinking,
• 37:40
  hold on, there's something here that's
• 37:43
  resonating with me, but it's still not answering my questions.
• 37:46
  And the other one, do you remember the Little House on the Prairie?
• 37:50
  Unknown: Oh yeah, yeah, I do.
• 37:53
  Know what? Michael Landau or whatever his Michael name Landau,
• 37:56
  Unknown: Well, I could never
• 37:58
  watch that program without literally crying.
• 38:01
  And I'm thinking, what the hell am I crying for?
• 38:04
  And what it was,
• 38:06
  there was a message in all of those programs and particularly the religious
• 38:10
  ones
• 38:11
  of this hope of something better.
• 38:14
  So obviously without my realizing it, I was kind of resonating with that feeling,
• 38:21
  which was part answering
• 38:23
  my question.
• 38:24
  Family was important to me, although, you know,
• 38:28
  I had a I would say I had a reasonable upbringing.
• 38:32
  My parents both worked hard, so it was always,
• 38:35
  you know, make your own seat type of thing. Anyway,
• 38:38
  so it cuts a long story short, you know, I had a reasonable upbringing as a child,
• 38:42
  but I still didn't feel that family connection.
• 38:47
  So anyway, cutting a long story short, I met my what who would then be my wife when I was 18. We were married when I was 21.
• 38:55
  She had a son to a previous marriage.
• 38:59
  And
• 39:01
  I ended up adopting him. But at the same time, my wife got pregnant,
• 39:05
  ended up having my daughter.
• 39:08
  And
• 39:09
  here I was
• 39:11
  in a family
• 39:13
  environment that I'd been seeking. And I thought, well, I'm going to try and do better with my family than what I've experienced.
• 39:20
  So I try to always encourage, I try to always be an example.
• 39:26
  So
• 39:27
  I
• 39:28
  thinking I'm in the, you know, the perfect nuclear family type of thing,
• 39:32
  I was quite content, but still had these three questions.
• 39:36
  Anyway, because of the long story short, nobody, and I mean nobody in the religious environments
• 39:42
  of whether it was Catholic, Protestant,
• 39:44
  blah blah blah blah blah.
• 39:46
  Nobody I even knew
• 39:48
  a couple of Jewish families and I would even ask them the question.
• 39:53
  They
• 39:54
  just never satisfied me anyway. So I get to the age of 25 and I'm thinking, do know what, there's got to be an answer. Anyway, cut a long story short,
• 40:03
  I got introduced to two
• 40:07
  missionaries from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
• 40:11
  Now probably
• 40:12
  most of you will be familiar with them. Nickname was at the time Mormons.
• 40:19
  Knocking on my door, invited them in, offered them tea and coffee. They didn't wanna, you know, obviously, they didn't drink tea and coffee, blah blah blah. So I thought, well, okay, I'm just gonna ask the three questions.
• 40:30
  And you know what? They reeled off the answers like veterans.
• 40:35
  Now just to put you in the picture here,
• 40:38
  all of the missionaries
• 40:40
  in our church, they're all 18 to 23.
• 40:44
  And I'm thinking, how the heck could an 18, 19, 20 year old
• 40:49
  give me answers to those three theological
• 40:53
  questions?
• 40:55
  And yeah, they've surely had no experience around faith,
• 40:59
  no experience, but they give a very clear, precise message.
• 41:03
  And cut a long story short, I became a member of the church because they were the only people that ever answered those three questions.
• 41:11
  Now I don't want to
• 41:13
  go into that because I'll be doing my own podcast and I'll really start breaking that down.
• 41:17
  But what I found, Paul, was that
• 41:21
  that was what I felt was my missing link to how I was going to continue the rest of my life. Now I'm 25 at this age,
• 41:30
  so I've got a wife, got two kids, blah blah blah.
• 41:34
  So off we went, somebody just did what we did. But when I joined the church, I then hit that same problem. I thought,
• 41:41
  hold on.
• 41:43
  You're given these
• 41:45
  I won't use the word sermons because we don't do sermons every member of the church gets to talk at various So
• 41:52
  it's more about their experience of what they're experiencing in life and
• 41:57
  how the gospel, how their relationship with God and Christ and the church is. And I found that refreshing.
• 42:05
  You know, he wasn't the same person
• 42:08
  week in, week out. And if you didn't accept what he said, well, then you were kind of in the wrong space.
• 42:14
  So
• 42:15
  I really enjoyed that and I thrived on that, I still had
• 42:20
  this theological
• 42:22
  problem with,
• 42:24
  well, don't you? You're asking me to read these verses in the scriptures and we're going to be talking about it next week in the typical Sunday school environment, whatever. And
• 42:35
  I would read the lesson of what they wanted us to read. And I'm saying,
• 42:39
  okay,
• 42:41
  I can see what the message is. But hold on, what about these verses over here? Why aren't we talking about those verses?
• 42:49
  And I'll give you a quick example.
• 42:51
  You know, Genesis six:four,
• 42:53
  and there were giants in the land in those days.
• 42:57
  Unknown: We like giants around here, Paul. We talk about giants. There were giants in those days, yes. And what
• 43:04
  Unknown: the heck was that?
• 43:06
  And again, I went to my minister and he said, well, we don't really talk about those things, blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I thought, here we go again.
• 43:16
  So anyway, got to the point where I'm
• 43:18
  a little bit like a rabbit. You don't push me through the door. You know what I mean?
• 43:24
  If you put any pressure on me, I dig in the hunches and I kind of... Anyway, so I I really started to dive into that.
• 43:33
  And and another one, and in the beginning,
• 43:35
  God said or God spoke and there was light. Well,
• 43:39
  when was the beginning?
• 43:41
  Because
• 43:42
  the beginning, as far as the Bible tells us, well, then we've only been around for six thousand years.
• 43:48
  Well, hold on. I've been studying ancient history and particularly the Sumerian text.
• 43:54
  There's a 250,000
• 43:56
  kings list
• 43:57
  on tablets
• 43:59
  from Sumeria,
• 44:00
  which is the oldest civilization on the planet,
• 44:03
  Unknown: talking about So far. So far.
• 44:08
  You gotta just... So
• 44:10
  we're told, so we think up to this point. Remember? You're right what you said earlier on. This knowledge thing
• 44:17
  thankfully never ends, and I do mean that. Because if you think that, oh, now I've got all the answers. No. You you gotta get up the next morning, make a cup of tea, and it all starts over again. Go bloody hell. There's no end to this. No. They're in. It's quite brilliant, really. Yeah. But... Yeah. So... Yeah. So so I, you know, I'm one of those people, don't tell me to not do something because I'm gonna bloody do it. You know what I mean? And then I started getting into,
• 44:42
  Unknown: you know, looking at it again, following the ancient story. I was happy with the message from the gospel, the chairs, whatever word you want to use,
• 44:50
  but it just never ever... And my bishop one day came up to me and he said, Paul, he said, look at you every Sunday and you look absolutely
• 44:58
  bored stiff.
• 44:59
  I said because...
• 45:02
  That's because I am, actually. I said, well, I said, well, funny funny you just should mention that. Yeah. I said, I am. And he said, he said, what's the problem?
• 45:12
  I said, Well, you're not teaching me nothing. I come here to Lane. I'm
• 45:17
  scholastic.
• 45:18
  I'm trying
• 45:19
  to find the answers to life.
• 45:22
  And all you're doing is giving this very
• 45:24
  the way that I would
• 45:26
  probably
• 45:27
  remember the Peter and Jane books when you first started to learn?
• 45:31
  Yeah. They're fantastic. I'll never forget the one about the rabbit in the rabbit hutch. Really? Alright. They didn't give it enough carrots. It got... No. Well, Anyway. Well, I always felt that you were teaching me as if I was a piece of the Jane type of character, you know, six or seven years of age. I'm literally 28,
• 45:47
  I'm 30, I'm 40, I'm 50, I'm 60, and it's the same message.
• 45:51
  For me, the biblical message
• 45:54
  that ministerial
• 45:58
  chairs I don't want to use the word religion because I have another issue with religion
• 46:02
  but the narrative that you would typically hear on a Sunday meeting,
• 46:08
  it was just really
• 46:10
  basic,
• 46:11
  basic,
• 46:12
  basic.
• 46:13
  And we as a church, we're no different. We teach four principles:
• 46:17
  faith in the Lord Jesus Christ,
• 46:20
  repentance of your wrongdoings,
• 46:22
  baptism and the receiving of the gift of the Holy Ghost, which I don't have any issue with any of that. In fact, two weeks ago, I've just baptized
• 46:31
  my youngest granddaughter at the age of eight because we believe baptism is
• 46:36
  to be done at eight, not as a baby sprinkling with water.
• 46:40
  All right. Yeah, but again, just to give people a bit of background.
• 46:45
  So really my
• 46:47
  religious not religious is the wrong word my
• 46:51
  quest for knowledge, scripturally,
• 46:54
  started to lead me into other faiths as well. And I thought, well, let's see what these other faiths are saying.
• 47:00
  And you know what? It's the same message.
• 47:02
  Wasn't any different. Didn't matter whether you were Islam, Sikh, Muslim, Jewish.
• 47:07
  It was all the same message. It was just coming at it from a different angle.
• 47:12
  The expression is, if you know, if you watched, you know, everybody on this call now,
• 47:18
  if we all were to witness an accident and the police came and they said, right, can you give us a statement?
• 47:24
  Well, guess what?
• 47:25
  None of our statements would be the same.
• 47:28
  But they would have the same theme. Well, two cars crashed. Well, what color was the car? Well, I think one was blue. I think the other one was green. And then you'd say, well, I think it was red and black.
• 47:39
  And the statements would be so
• 47:42
  conflicting
• 47:42
  that the police would say, what the bloody hell actually went on here? Well, I think
• 47:47
  that's what's happened to the biblical message
• 47:49
  because it has been chopped and changed. We know the Nicene Council in the fifth century,
• 47:56
  you know, Constantine,
• 47:58
  you know, he was losing power as an emperor and realized that this
• 48:03
  so called Christian religious movement was starting to gain traction,
• 48:08
  and he wanted to keep control.
• 48:11
  So he brought all the chasers together, even pagans and
• 48:16
  probably witches and warlocks and just about anybody else.
• 48:19
  And the the issue was, he said, look, we've got to come up with
• 48:23
  a kind of universal
• 48:25
  standard,
• 48:26
  if you like, for want of a word,
• 48:29
  that we can all
• 48:30
  share and we can still do what we want to do, but, you know, there's no fighting, there's no issue with it.
• 48:37
  And that's kind of what we ended up with with the Bible. And what people
• 48:42
  won't
• 48:43
  necessarily realize, and this is what I want to cover as I start my podcast,
• 48:48
  is
• 48:49
  you know, where with all those books
• 48:52
  because the standard work of the King James version which we used,
• 48:57
  well at one point there were 88 books in that, now it's down to 66.
• 49:02
  So
• 49:03
  well where were the other 20 odd books?
• 49:05
  Unknown: Yeah. And then there's a bucket load more, Paul, that were never included. I think that's
• 49:10
  down to the Council of Nicea with Constantine, isn't it? Where he said, this... I'm in charge. These are the books that are going in. That's that.
• 49:17
  Yeah. I mean, it's
• 49:20
  it's it's like as you come at this stuff, I think just hearing as you... How you thought about it through your different ages, very similar
• 49:28
  actually. I
• 49:30
  loved it as a child
• 49:32
  because I just... Everybody wanted to chin Goliath and we all wanted to be Samson, right? Absolutely. Great stories. Yeah? It's just as a little lad just running around getting covered in dirt and playing and kicking footballs and stuff, thought, woah, this is fantastic, And it introduces you to a kind of mythical world.
• 49:48
  So Yeah. Or at least that's what it's called at that time.
• 49:51
  And it seems and it's so far... I mean, when you're seven or eight and someone says,
• 49:56
  this happened three thousand years ago, your little brain can't even
• 50:01
  know what that is. You've got no timeline between where you're stood
• 50:04
  and that event that I'm three... I didn't. I couldn't envisage it at all, you know. You... I remember seeing things about World War two on TV in the mid sixties, which was only twenty years.
• 50:14
  Right? But it seemed like a million years ago. Oh, look at those black and white pictures. You know what I mean? That that sense of time, that kind of thing. So I I think you kind of view it in a different way all the way through, and there's there's benefit in it. When we used to go back over to my grandma's often on a Sunday, so I kind of view that I was one of the last generations whose parents used to take him to church,
• 50:34
  and,
• 50:35
  I've got
• 50:36
  certain memories about it. It wasn't a great imposition, of course, we're all can't wait to get home and have lunch and things like this, and I'm just telling you as it is really.
• 50:44
  My parents were great. They were a lot of fun about all this, and but I I was never really impressed with the caliber of the people in the church.
• 50:52
  No. Just as a small chart, I couldn't have vocaled it. I couldn't have put it into sentences, but I just thought,
• 50:58
  why are they all sort of so pasty and wet? Seriously, I thought, these are not the spirited men and women that I know that come through our house. They seem to be very, I don't know, just a bit too tame for my liking, and it didn't strike me as being quite right. But we used to go over to my grandma's house, my uncle had like an encyclopedia
• 51:16
  with all these biblical stories in it. I remember seeing this illustration of Goliath that was just
• 51:21
  amazing. It was absolutely amazing because in this in this illustration, he must have been about
• 51:27
  a hundred feet tall. Seriously, it was like off the charts, and he was dressed like a Trojan warrior,
• 51:32
  and it made such an impression on me. I wanted to say, no, you can't take that. I want this picture, put that book back. They won't let me take it home, but those sorts of little things is that warm sort of memory of just growing up and becoming accustomed to how your brain works and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. But I think that the the way that the the religions have screwed things together, religion is a is a tricky, awkward, and unfortunate
• 51:55
  word. I mean,
• 51:56
  it tends to... I understand why it's happened,
• 52:00
  but that doesn't mean you can't keep asking questions about it. And I think once they say, you don't need to question this, I'm kind of out of there, wherever there may be,
• 52:09
  you know, because it seems to me the question's just awesome.
• 52:14
  You know, the most questions, the most awesome thing ever is asking questions. Yeah. No. I think I think that, that example of Goliath,
• 52:22
  Unknown: because again, it was the giants.
• 52:25
  And here's the thing,
• 52:26
  what
• 52:27
  I started to see was,
• 52:30
  while there was lots of books missing. Studied,
• 52:33
  you know, the Book of Enoch. I studied Revelation like you wouldn't believe it.
• 52:37
  Because
• 52:38
  I wasn't interested,
• 52:40
  not necessarily interested in what happened in the past.
• 52:43
  I was more interested in what's what's going to happen in the future. And the book of Revelation clearly tells
• 52:49
  us what's going to happen.
• 52:51
  But what I found, Paul, was there was a very narrative
• 52:55
  thread
• 52:56
  that while the Nicene Council tried to hide the truth from us,
• 53:01
  it was so obvious in plain sight that I could see I could literally see the threads.
• 53:07
  So going back to that Genesis six:four, the giants,
• 53:11
  well, I pursued that.
• 53:13
  Now, if you look at Lebanon
• 53:15
  as a, you know, again, a civilization,
• 53:19
  there's a biblical thread that talks about the trees of Lebanon. They were as tall as the trees of Lebanon, these giants,
• 53:27
  and particularly in Canaan.
• 53:29
  And if
• 53:31
  you know anything about Libyan,
• 53:33
  they're 200 to 300 feet tall.
• 53:37
  The
• 53:37
  narrative was that these giants were as tall as them. Now,
• 53:42
  that's in the Bible. That's not like in the Book of Enoch. Now, when you go to the narrative in the Book of Enoch,
• 53:48
  then it talks about these giants being 200 to 300, in some cases, 400 feet.
• 53:53
  That was the second witness for me
• 53:56
  that they took this book out, but hold on, they've missed this little
• 54:00
  message.
• 54:01
  And I'll give you another example. Now, this kind of brings it right up to date, Paul.
• 54:05
  If I said to you now the London Lord Mayor's Parade,
• 54:10
  have you ever had any experience of it? Yep.
• 54:14
  Unknown: I am. Right. Are you talking about Gog and Magog in the I certainly am, my friends. I thought you might have been. Now why why was why was a London lord mayor's parade
• 54:26
  Unknown: starts off with two giants at the beginning of the parade?
• 54:31
  Unknown: It's a very good question.
• 54:32
  Unknown: Have you come up with any answers? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Do you think I'm on this show without answers?
• 54:39
  Unknown: It's okay. I'm not even... I just love the questions. If I like going off all confused, I'm a bit weird like that, but I do. But, yeah, go on. Yeah. Gog and Magog were were supposedly
• 54:48
  Unknown: the two founding giants that settled in Ireland and England.
• 54:53
  Yeah. And they created
• 54:55
  what we would now say is the, you know, the city of London. Now we all know that the city of London is a city within a city, the Vatican, as DC is.
• 55:06
  But when you look at the history and go down the rabbit hole like APCON,
• 55:10
  what you find is they they were always destined
• 55:14
  to be the capitals
• 55:16
  of various things. So if you look at the Vatican, what was the Vatican? Well, the Vatican was the religious
• 55:22
  elements of control of the world. What was London?
• 55:26
  The financial world. What was DC?
• 55:28
  It was the military.
• 55:30
  Yeah?
• 55:31
  So these triads
• 55:33
  of cities
• 55:35
  were always destined to be the governing of
• 55:38
  the world, they're always
• 55:40
  destined to be governance.
• 55:42
  So these giants formed that
• 55:44
  organization
• 55:45
  or whatever, the beginning of civilization.
• 55:48
  Now I'm from Liverpool.
• 55:49
  You've only got to go back to 1600s,
• 55:52
  and Liverpool didn't exist,
• 55:54
  you know, and and London was Not no Beatles in the 1600s, he was Well, there might have been a few dead Beatles, but do you know what? It
• 56:04
  was it was literally just an estuary,
• 56:07
  and in fact, it goes back to king I think it goes back to king John's time.
• 56:12
  He started to see that,
• 56:14
  you know, the River Thames, London, as it was starting to grow then,
• 56:18
  you know, he started to see, you know, the potential of what was going to happen, and
• 56:24
  he knew that London would be too small a place to really have control over the world.
• 56:30
  So he started he sent out some surveyors, and this is historical history now,
• 56:36
  and he said, I want you to go around the country and I want you to come up with
• 56:41
  a a second alternative.
• 56:43
  So London will guess where they found they found Liverpool.
• 56:46
  He said, right. We've got a low tide area.
• 56:49
  We can control commerce from it. We've got access to the Irish Sea. We've got access to everywhere. Blah blah blah. And they started to develop Liverpool.
• 56:59
  And before you know it,
• 57:01
  Liverpool becomes the the the second greatest maritime
• 57:04
  city in the world.
• 57:05
  And and and arguably should still be had it not been for Margaret that yet. But that's another story.
• 57:12
  Unknown: Right. We'll do that in hour two. You can have a go away. But but No. You don't have to. The history after. The the point I'm trying to make here is the the historical
• 57:21
  Unknown: connection to Liverpool was always maritime.
• 57:24
  Yep.
• 57:26
  And and what
• 57:27
  started to happen, particularly once we started getting up into the sixteen hundreds,
• 57:32
  you know, when when slavery
• 57:34
  became a commodity
• 57:35
  that
• 57:36
  the wealthy thought, well, we're sick of doing cotton, we're sick of doing beans, what else can we do?
• 57:42
  And hence,
• 57:43
  you know, the slavery. Now Liverpool were obviously massively,
• 57:47
  massively involved in that.
• 57:49
  And Liverpool's
• 57:50
  wealth can trace back to that
• 57:52
  that... That period. Right. Yeah, absolutely.
• 57:55
  And
• 57:56
  lot of the buildings are still connected to that even today.
• 58:00
  But
• 58:01
  that's where all our wealth come. But taking it right back biblically,
• 58:06
  what you've got is these
• 58:09
  citizenships
• 58:10
  and these slave systems
• 58:12
  that are all over the world. They're not just in Liverpool, London.
• 58:16
  Right. In fact, the biggest perpetrators
• 58:19
  of the black slave industry was
• 58:22
  Africa itself,
• 58:24
  because there was a lot of tribal.
• 58:26
  And this is all biblical. There will always be rumors of wars. There will always be the poor amongst us. There will always be this and there'll always be that.
• 58:34
  Because the message that I was getting was
• 58:38
  something's got to change in humanity
• 58:41
  in order for us to get along.
• 58:43
  And to date,
• 58:46
  I don't think that's happened, Paul.
• 58:48
  But I do believe it's coming.
• 58:50
  I believe we are vast approaching, and I'll share this in my podcast,
• 58:55
  is we're at an age, and again, I'll take this right back to Scripture.
• 59:01
  When
• 59:02
  Jesus was in front of the apostles and the congregation were behind him,
• 59:08
  they often asked him questions, well, what's what's going to happen? Blah blah blah.
• 59:13
  And he references
• 59:16
  Noah.
• 59:17
  And he says this,
• 59:19
  what will be the sign... The apostle's asking the question, what will be the sign of thy coming?
• 59:25
  What will be the sign of the coming of the son of man? Meaning Jesus Christ's second coming.
• 59:31
  And he answers by saying this.
• 59:34
  As it was in the days of Noah
• 59:37
  Mhmm.
• 59:38
  So shall it be at the coming of the son of man.
• 59:41
  Now that's right out of Revelations,
• 59:43
  which is the end.
• 59:45
  So now I don't believe...
• 59:52
  Unknown: Now we've just lost you momentarily.
• 59:56
  Oh, it's a shame. Did you enjoy that? No. No. It's okay. We're at the top of the hour anyway. Are you back, Paul? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, can you hear me? Cool. Okay. So, yeah, you just fell out. I'll tell you what though, just hold on to your thought because we're at the top of the hour, and I always play a song of some sort just to give us a little break so you can, you know, do whatever you need to do.
• 1:00:15
  So, yeah, you're listening here to Paul English live on WBN and FFT radio and on YouTube and not on Rumble, but never mind. I won't groan on about anymore. That's a lie. I will. Of course, I'll go on and on and on and on about it.
• 1:00:27
  Played this a few weeks ago. I don't if I played it again recently, but I just like it so much. I'm gonna play it. This is that Kipling poem, the stranger put to music. He's quite groovy. I quite like this. We'll see you in about three or four minutes time when this has sorted itself out.
• 1:01:22
  Unknown: Mind.
• 1:01:23
  I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
• 1:01:29
  but not the soul behind.
• 1:01:35
  The men of my own
• 1:04:09
  This was my father's
• 1:04:11
  belief,
• 1:04:14
  and this is also mine.
• 1:04:17
  Let the corn be all one sheaf,
• 1:04:21
  and the grapes be all one vine.
• 1:04:56
  Unknown: The Stranger
• 1:04:58
  by Rudyard Kipling. Very well put to music, I thought, particularly the meter and the phrasing of the poem. There you go. And if you haven't read the poem, you need to go and read it and look at it regularly. The Stranger by Rudyard Kipling. Anyway, someone who is now no longer a stranger is Paul Gunson, who's with us here for hour two. Paul, welcome back. Hope you're nice and refreshed. I know I am. Yes. I'm all good.
• 1:05:20
  Unknown: Cool. Worted
• 1:05:21
  in toilets.
• 1:05:23
  Unknown: Oh, that's great. Fantastic.
• 1:05:24
  I just sat here all still and everything and just sat here still, so that was good. But, anyway,
• 1:05:31
  you you just got on to the book of Revelation, I think, and you were talking about in the times of Noah,
• 1:05:36
  Unknown: and then and then we just interrupted you. So... Because we're... Yeah. No. That's fine. So, yeah. So so with with this reference being back to the days of Noah, you've got to ask the question, well, what was actually going on
• 1:05:47
  that actually caused that, you know,
• 1:05:51
  Noah's Ark thing, whatever you want to call it. And
• 1:05:54
  as you do the research
• 1:05:56
  behind it, you'll see that this
• 1:05:59
  issue of the giants was prominent then.
• 1:06:03
  And, you know, it wasn't often
• 1:06:05
  people would say, god, you know, he's
• 1:06:08
  you know, he just wants to kill people. He's, you know, he's warmonger.
• 1:06:12
  He's this, he's And
• 1:06:14
  what he was saying is no, you know,
• 1:06:17
  my creation's been corrupted and I've got to clean it up and I've got to start again.
• 1:06:22
  Same with Canaan, the land was occupied by giants. So when the
• 1:06:28
  Egyptians let
• 1:06:30
  the Jews go,
• 1:06:32
  Well, they walked
• 1:06:33
  in the desert for forty years. That wasn't an overnight exodus. It was a forty year journey.
• 1:06:39
  Unknown: I've always been puzzled by that though. I mean, what The United Yeah, States is
• 1:06:43
  Unknown: well,
• 1:06:44
  what it was, again, if you look in the narrative and certainly the research,
• 1:06:49
  the reason why, because it didn't seem to matter what they what what God did. He gave them the manna, he gave them water, he gave them
• 1:06:57
  the land, blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:07:00
  He told them to go into Canaan.
• 1:07:02
  He he sends Aaron and and some of the, you know, the leaders, and and they came back terrified.
• 1:07:08
  And he said, well, what's the problem? So so, you know, Moses said, what's the problem?
• 1:07:12
  He said, well,
• 1:07:14
  we... I said, there's giants all over the land and we appeared as the size of a grasshopper compared to them. So they're talking about 200, 300 foot giants.
• 1:07:23
  But more so than that, the story behind Sodom and Gomorrah, you'd be familiar
• 1:07:28
  with that.
• 1:07:30
  You know, well, what was going on there? Well, this is where all the, you know, the homosexuality,
• 1:07:35
  the permissive sex was going on,
• 1:07:37
  the whoredoms and so the whole
• 1:07:41
  message that God wanted us to have to be happy and peace and blah blah blah.
• 1:07:46
  It has just become so corrupted, even to the point
• 1:07:49
  God sent three angels and even the men lusted after the angels. I know. That's a bit weird, isn't I know. I know. But it's really Yeah. Super
• 1:07:58
  I know. But
• 1:08:00
  people will just dismiss this, and I'm thinking, no, I've got to start getting this message out. Anyway, so cutting right back to where I am now. So that's kind of my,
• 1:08:10
  you know, sort of my religion, not religion, my my...
• 1:08:14
  I'm trying to think of a word to this. My biblical approach to this is I'm seeing all what went on in the past, and I'm now seeing it in the future.
• 1:08:24
  Because what have we got now? Got,
• 1:08:26
  know, this thing about, you know, homosexuality
• 1:08:31
  is still a massive issue, blah blah blah, transgender
• 1:08:36
  now,
• 1:08:37
  which I think is probably the biggest evil in the world,
• 1:08:41
  only surpassed by abortions, but that's another story.
• 1:08:44
  But the issue now is is it's almost like
• 1:08:48
  the world has lost its lost its footing.
• 1:08:52
  Doesn't know where to go. Doesn't know who to turn to. We're certainly not gonna be able to rely on on governments.
• 1:08:58
  Unknown: No, you don't think. You
• 1:09:01
  trust the great Andy Bunmhole to recover it for us over here. Well, I'm shocked Paul. That's
• 1:09:06
  quite a cynical approach really. I mean, it's a magnificent
• 1:09:09
  economy.
• 1:09:10
  So
• 1:09:13
  Unknown: what I started to see Paul, was that,
• 1:09:16
  well, I can see the religious
• 1:09:18
  argument, I can see the biblical argument, but what's actually going on in world politics? Because I was also into that.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah. And I started to see
• 1:09:27
  it's always biblically connected. It's war after war after war after war.
• 1:09:32
  And why?
• 1:09:34
  Because
• 1:09:35
  I believe, and I hope some of your listeners, and I guess this will probably resonate with you, Paul, is this a
• 1:09:44
  spiritual war within. It's good over evil. It's right over wrong. It's honesty
• 1:09:50
  over lies. It's
• 1:09:52
  being a good
• 1:09:54
  opposed to being a bad person. That's what all this is about.
• 1:09:57
  So for me,
• 1:09:59
  Lucifer,
• 1:10:00
  who if
• 1:10:01
  you go back in time,
• 1:10:03
  and going back to my question when I mentioned, you know, when did all this begin?
• 1:10:09
  Well, most
• 1:10:10
  people who who are going to church irrespective
• 1:10:13
  of their faith,
• 1:10:15
  you know, they're
• 1:10:16
  about a timeline of six thousand years.
• 1:10:19
  But I started to question that as to, well, hold on.
• 1:10:23
  Who... Who's this Lucifer character? Where did he come into the game?
• 1:10:27
  You know? And it's it's clear that it didn't start in the Garden Of Eden. It started
• 1:10:33
  way, way, way beyond that.
• 1:10:36
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I I think, you know, you... When you just mentioned the thing about the Sumerian thing as well, and I was just saying,
• 1:10:42
  and before that, I suspect
• 1:10:44
  more than that. I mean, they keep coming across artifacts and machined things that are tens of thousands of years old and you're going, this... Oh, no. You don't need to look at that. No. No. We do need to look at all of this stuff. We need to look at everything. Can... It's to do with... It's as if people... I think there's a problem with the acquisition of knowledge, not for all people, but for most possibly. Right?
• 1:11:05
  Which is as you are... You start off, you're young and you don't know your head from your backside, and it's lovely, actually, frankly.
• 1:11:11
  It's great. Right? Because
• 1:11:13
  literally, the world is your oyster and your imagination's king and it, you you know, this is what you've got to guard. You need to keep your imagination going and retain some childlike aspects of wonder about being alive. That's just an aside, but I think you do. Otherwise, you start to look much much older than you ought to be and you get worn out.
• 1:11:30
  The the... Because this is just almost like a phase that we're passing through. I know it gets very important. It's easy for me to say that if you've got pressing bills and all this other crap crap that's sort of chewing away at your innards. I've got all that. I I've gone through all that as well and we we don't want that for anybody, but it happens. But I do think that that sort of approach is is key and one of the things in the Sumerian texts,
• 1:11:51
  which just going over to your thing with regards to the flood.
• 1:11:54
  I remember reading this thing because they have two gods.
• 1:11:58
  They have these two brothers, Enki and Enlil. And... Yep. Yep.
• 1:12:03
  And so there's always brothers. Have you noticed? Up and down. You've got... We've got Gog and Magog. There's Enki and Enlil.
• 1:12:08
  There's,
• 1:12:09
  Esau and Jacob. There's all... There's brothers everywhere, and he always ends up as a family scrap. And of course,
• 1:12:16
  melodramas
• 1:12:16
  like... I don't know. I can't think of a Dickens novel, but you get the idea about, you know, the wayward brother and the good brother, and and they they sort of... It's always comes to the ruin of the family. There's some... You know, it's a way of, I guess, really focusing in on a good path and a bad path and the clash that takes place.
• 1:12:34
  But their description of of the flood is that
• 1:12:38
  Enke and Enlil
• 1:12:40
  were of a differing opinion.
• 1:12:42
  So they... Their story is that they created us,
• 1:12:46
  and I'm open to all sorts of things. Right? The use of the word god
• 1:12:50
  is just the word that they would have used at the time. That's one approach. Okay? But their view is one of the brothers, they were looking at how it all gone pear shaped,
• 1:13:00
  and so they decided to wipe everything out with a big flood.
• 1:13:04
  And one brother says, yeah, that's what we're gonna do, the other one says, no, I built all these people. I don't like that. Right?
• 1:13:10
  So he goes off and secretly speaks to Noah or who... Whatever the name is in the Sumerian thing,
• 1:13:16
  saying something really bad's gonna come. Yeah?
• 1:13:19
  And
• 1:13:21
  you know, you've... This is how you're gonna survive it. And the way that that story went on is that they leave the earth in their flying machines, the great balls of light or whatever it is. But as they're leaving the earth, they look down and and many of them are now full of remorse seeing the ruin that's been wrought upon what they created.
• 1:13:38
  And so,
• 1:13:40
  they reconcile, they come back to earth
• 1:13:43
  and they then, isn't there something like they break a fire or something and there's some food, they help them out after they've made this big mistake.
• 1:13:51
  Now the the reason for that was they said, it appears that the God of the Old Testament is kind of in two minds.
• 1:13:58
  This is just a take. I'm not saying I agree with this. He goes, oh, they're all... It's rubbish. I'm gonna kill them. And he goes, oh, no. I actually really like them quite a bit. I'm gonna save them. That kind of stuff. Whereas they were saying, the two brothers pulling in different directions again
• 1:14:11
  is another way of explaining it. It may be bogus. I accept all this. I mean, you know, the more accounts you read and takes from different civilizations and all this stuff, go, well, know what? Within the context that they're talking about, they all make sense. Is
• 1:14:26
  there one core truth here? I guess there is. And then I think, am I gonna find it out in this lifetime? Go, probably not.
• 1:14:34
  Unknown: You know? And I have to let go of it. I don't know. No, actually think you're right and I think you're on the right path.
• 1:14:41
  You know, this thing about when did it start? When was the beginning? Well,
• 1:14:45
  clearly that brotherhood extended,
• 1:14:47
  you know,
• 1:14:49
  if you go it purely from a biblical perspective, it was Cain and Abel, two brothers. Yeah? Yes. Mhmm. Right? But if you go if you go further back, I'm talking millennium now, I'm not talking a couple of hundred years, I'm talking millennium.
• 1:15:03
  Well, who were the first two brothers created?
• 1:15:06
  Lucifer
• 1:15:07
  and Jehovah.
• 1:15:09
  They were... They not brothers?
• 1:15:12
  Unknown: Were they
• 1:15:14
  Enki and Enlil? Were they a good one and a bad Well well, there you go.
• 1:15:19
  Were they Thor and Loki?
• 1:15:21
  You know, it's the same thing. The Asgardian stuff is a transliteration in many Yeah.
• 1:15:27
  Unknown: It's just to me, it's a question of what book you're reading. So so I I begin to to understand and accept that
• 1:15:34
  this,
• 1:15:35
  in the beginning,
• 1:15:36
  you know, wasn't like six thousand years ago. It was millions of years ago.
• 1:15:41
  And it all started with two brothers being born or spiritually being born, whatever word we wanna use. Now
• 1:15:49
  Lucifer
• 1:15:50
  was the first.
• 1:15:53
  Jesus Jehovah was second.
• 1:15:55
  Now Lucifer
• 1:15:56
  was considered the most beautiful
• 1:15:59
  of angels.
• 1:16:01
  Yes. And light
• 1:16:03
  and knowledge. Now what his path was or what he felt was right
• 1:16:08
  was, okay, we'll create this world and we'll give people a chance to go and experience life, and that's the path that we're all on on this call.
• 1:16:18
  But he wanted us to have the knowledge.
• 1:16:22
  Now
• 1:16:23
  Jesus or
• 1:16:24
  Jehovah, whatever you... Yahweh, whatever word you want to use,
• 1:16:28
  is was we
• 1:16:30
  need to allow them to make their own choices.
• 1:16:34
  So there are two universal
• 1:16:35
  rules and I believe these are
• 1:16:39
  millennial.
• 1:16:41
  One is
• 1:16:42
  whoever you believe God to be or spirit or resonance or frequency, light, whatever,
• 1:16:49
  he will not interfere with our agency. Now it doesn't matter if you're about to walk off a cliff,
• 1:16:56
  unless you have a divine mission and he thinks, hold on. I need to give this guy a bit of a, you know, a helping hand here. Yep.
• 1:17:03
  You you have the you have the human rights to agency.
• 1:17:08
  So if you wanna go down a dark path,
• 1:17:11
  if you wanna be self harm, if you wanna be a baddie and
• 1:17:15
  look at some of the historical figures, Hitlers and
• 1:17:19
  Nero,
• 1:17:20
  Mussolini,
• 1:17:21
  and go back even further to whatever,
• 1:17:24
  there's always a dominant
• 1:17:27
  force. There's always somebody who wants to be king of the castle. And the perfect example of that is Nimrod.
• 1:17:33
  Yeah?
• 1:17:34
  Yes. He he wanted to build a tower to get into
• 1:17:38
  heaven, to take... Kick god off his throne.
• 1:17:41
  And and what was interesting, if you look at that narrative, Paul,
• 1:17:46
  even god believed he was gonna do it.
• 1:17:49
  Well, he had to smash that tower up. And and and he and and he was close to achieving it.
• 1:17:55
  And the only way he could do it was not necessarily to smash the tower, but to confirm the languages.
• 1:18:02
  So everybody that was there at that time in that civilization, all of a sudden were speaking 65 different languages.
• 1:18:08
  They couldn't communicate. So that was their way of stopping it.
• 1:18:12
  But what's
• 1:18:14
  interesting with that narrative is
• 1:18:17
  that narrative
• 1:18:18
  still plays out today.
• 1:18:20
  If you ask the question,
• 1:18:22
  why did America
• 1:18:25
  invade Afghanistan?
• 1:18:27
  Now,
• 1:18:28
  the narrative that we received
• 1:18:30
  was
• 1:18:31
  that,
• 1:18:32
  you know, the Qaddafis of the world and all that, they had Taliban!
• 1:18:36
  Unknown: We've got to twack the Taliban, that's what they said, isn't it? It's a haven for international terrorism, they said. Yeah, weapons of mass destruction, all that sort of stuff,
• 1:18:45
  Unknown: they never proved, never found.
• 1:18:47
  But here's the thing,
• 1:18:49
  if you go into the rabbit hole of that,
• 1:18:52
  what they actually took or found or got access to was all the artifacts
• 1:18:58
  in
• 1:18:59
  the museums.
• 1:19:00
  And one of the artifacts
• 1:19:02
  was apparently
• 1:19:05
  associated
• 1:19:05
  to the tomb of Nimrod.
• 1:19:08
  Unknown: Now Yes, I remember that. Yeah, I remember reading about that. Yeah. And it was all of that stuff that got confiscated,
• 1:19:15
  Unknown: and then obviously war kicks out. Now what was interesting in my
• 1:19:20
  sort of Egyptian studies is
• 1:19:22
  there was also a claim to have found
• 1:19:26
  Gilgamesh.
• 1:19:28
  Well, guess what? It's the same person.
• 1:19:32
  And they found a tomb near one of the great pyramids
• 1:19:35
  that had a chamber that went down like, you know, a couple of 100 feet that was all
• 1:19:40
  submerged in water. Anyway,
• 1:19:42
  comes a long story short. When they actually drained it,
• 1:19:47
  there was about a 15, 16 foot tomb
• 1:19:50
  that that
• 1:19:51
  apparently had somebody in it.
• 1:19:53
  Right. Now you might ask, well, really, where are going with this, Paul? Well, let me tell you this, where are we going?
• 1:19:59
  The Masonic
• 1:20:01
  order,
• 1:20:02
  the Freemasons
• 1:20:04
  Yeah. They believe
• 1:20:06
  that they hold the resurrection
• 1:20:09
  rights
• 1:20:10
  to
• 1:20:12
  to bring about the antichrist.
• 1:20:14
  Unknown: Now that's a... I suspect they're not the only organization that believe No. I don't. I've heard that before. I think that that's likely... It's definitely... Even if it's not true, I think the important thing is that they believe it to be true and act accordingly. Yeah. Now here's the thing that most people might not be aware of.
• 1:20:32
  Unknown: Whenever
• 1:20:34
  a new president is being called to serve in America as president,
• 1:20:39
  Well, the Masonic Order, the Masonic Lodge,
• 1:20:42
  they
• 1:20:43
  actually
• 1:20:44
  performed
• 1:20:45
  that resurrection,
• 1:20:49
  performed
• 1:20:50
  that whatever you want to call it, cultism, whatever,
• 1:20:54
  believing
• 1:20:55
  that
• 1:20:56
  the American there's going to be an American president who will become the antichrist.
• 1:21:00
  Now,
• 1:21:01
  I kind of have a different view on that, but I know where they're going with that. But they perform
• 1:21:07
  that ritual
• 1:21:09
  every time a president is being inaugurated
• 1:21:12
  because they believe
• 1:21:14
  that president
• 1:21:16
  is going to be the next or is going to be the antichrist.
• 1:21:20
  So again, Book of Revelation, the antichrist. Well, what is the Antichrist? Who is the Antichrist? Well,
• 1:21:26
  there are some people who say it could be Trump.
• 1:21:30
  Some people will say it's the Pope. Some people will say it could even be King Charles.
• 1:21:35
  Now I have my own view on that, which I'll cover at a later date. But here's the thing. I mean, I I think Paul, just to jump in there, hang on to your thought, is
• 1:21:45
  Unknown: the way I've always... Well for many years now, the way I've heard antichrist is, I know it's
• 1:21:51
  turned into an individual, but I've never thought it was.
• 1:21:56
  I could see how it would become that way
• 1:21:59
  amongst previous cultures. Maybe they're right. I don't know, but my view has been
• 1:22:03
  that what
• 1:22:04
  Christ did was,
• 1:22:08
  his whole role was to return us to the law,
• 1:22:11
  the drifting away from which had caused all this trouble to come into the world in simple terms. There are these sort of ground rules to the contract. Here they are. You keep them, things are gonna go great. If you don't, you'll get your ass kicked. And that's happened over and over and over again. It's happening right now and people, oh, can't be because what we think we know best, which is really hilarious when you step back and think about it because we don't even know what we are. Most of us don't know how our kidneys work or anything. I mean, it's very bizarre situation to be in, but
• 1:22:41
  so I just think it's anything that runs counter to the laws of Christ. It could be more than that, but I've always viewed anything that's anti Christ is anti those laws,
• 1:22:50
  and it will bring about misery.
• 1:22:53
  Unknown: That's brilliant. That That segues right into where we are for the last sort of running up to the final phase with 10:00.
• 1:23:01
  Is
• 1:23:02
  that very statement that you just made, well, who is the Antichrist?
• 1:23:06
  Well, again, the book of Revelation clearly states it. It is the name of a man and the name of the man is a number six sixty six.
• 1:23:15
  Well here's a thought.
• 1:23:19
  What does the human species
• 1:23:22
  have in relation to the number of the beast?
• 1:23:27
  Unknown: I don't know. Coils of DNA, is there something like that? Oh, absolutely.
• 1:23:31
  Unknown: Because for me it all goes to the DNA.
• 1:23:34
  And the human molecular structure,
• 1:23:36
  and if you go to Enniel and Elke again,
• 1:23:40
  in the formation of that human DNA with the hybrids, etcetera, and and humanity
• 1:23:46
  becoming humanity,
• 1:23:47
  well, guess what? We're made up of
• 1:23:51
  six protons,
• 1:23:53
  six neutrons.
• 1:23:56
  Yep. And what's the other six?
• 1:24:00
  Unknown: I don't know, electrons.
• 1:24:02
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:24:03
  So it is not necessarily a man, although I'm glad we got into particle physics, Paul. Right. So here's the thing:
• 1:24:11
  The whole of humanity
• 1:24:14
  is the beast
• 1:24:15
  because people are waiting for this single man. It is the rebellious
• 1:24:19
  nature of man that is an enemy to God and scripture tells us that.
• 1:24:24
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm alright with that. That's cool. That makes complete sense. That's that inner fight that we've all got going on inside of. So the so the number of the beast is
• 1:24:33
  Unknown: our DNA. We are, by definition,
• 1:24:37
  six
• 1:24:38
  sixty
• 1:24:39
  six.
• 1:24:40
  So the only way we can come away from that,
• 1:24:43
  and this is the whole
• 1:24:45
  Christ message,
• 1:24:47
  is
• 1:24:47
  you repent, you do good, and you stop doing evil. Otherwise, as you rightly put it, and I'll use your vernacular,
• 1:24:55
  you're going to get your ass kicked.
• 1:24:57
  So
• 1:24:58
  we have that problem. So what that then led me down the rabbit hole of,
• 1:25:03
  well, hold on. So how do we change this? Can we change this?
• 1:25:09
  Can we
• 1:25:10
  change?
• 1:25:12
  And I'm gonna be quite brutal, and I hope I don't offend anybody by saying this, but I do believe
• 1:25:18
  humanity
• 1:25:19
  cannot save itself.
• 1:25:22
  It is gonna take that return of a savior.
• 1:25:26
  Now there are lots of people out in the movement out there that will say, oh, that's a low debunking.
• 1:25:31
  Fine. Get get get over it, Mhmm. You know? Because here's the thing,
• 1:25:36
  and and and that's gonna bring us right up to modern day.
• 1:25:40
  Unknown: Paul. Well, I'm with you. I'm with you, Paul. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how it would turn out, so I tend to not even
• 1:25:48
  conjecture in my own head about that, because I suspect it might come in a form that none of us can even anticipate at the moment, given what our context is for what we think life is about. But
• 1:25:58
  it's like I tend to view it that we are in a partnership with God
• 1:26:04
  Yeah. The creator,
• 1:26:06
  and the creator is the senior partner by a country mile.
• 1:26:10
  And what we tend to forget is that we think that we're on an equal footing and we're clearly not,
• 1:26:15
  because we are the created and like I was saying, most of us spend most of our lives not knowing what we are, we don't know what we are and most
• 1:26:25
  people, which is even worse, don't even ask questions about it. That's why I keep asking questions so much, like, come on, get started, but it's gonna take forever. Yeah. Yeah. Is. How come it is? Well, that's where you have, you know, sayings like, you know, cognitive dissidents and your head is already digging in the sand and... Mhmm. Because here's the thing. Now now,
• 1:26:43
  Unknown: you were born in 1960,
• 1:26:45
  so we're the same generation. And here's the thing. I'm gonna ask you a question to your audience.
• 1:26:51
  Did you ever,
• 1:26:53
  ever in your life
• 1:26:55
  envisage
• 1:26:56
  a time
• 1:26:57
  when the world would stand
• 1:27:00
  still.
• 1:27:04
  Do you remember the film in the 50s?
• 1:27:07
  When the earth stood still. When the earth stood still.
• 1:27:11
  Yeah. They did it in plain sight.
• 1:27:14
  Look what happened when we were
• 1:27:16
  all subjected to a medical
• 1:27:20
  procedure, which I never took and I'm sure others won't have. But here's the thing:
• 1:27:25
  they stopped
• 1:27:27
  the world.
• 1:27:29
  Now what was all that about? Well, I think there's enough evidence out there to
• 1:27:34
  identify that that was the biggest hoax ever pulled on humanity.
• 1:27:38
  In fact, I think it is the second biggest hoax.
• 1:27:41
  The first biggest hoax happened in 1933
• 1:27:45
  when the world went bankrupt and we were introduced to currency.
• 1:27:50
  Unknown: And that's something else that I talk about. So what all this is... Oh, you're you're in the right part of the world. We we we love usurers around here, Paul. We think they're great. They're
• 1:28:01
  Unknown: Satan's gift to fund down on the earth. They really are. Yeah. So what you've... Yeah. So what you've got now, you've got an entire world, and I'm talking about every country now. There's no one exception to this.
• 1:28:12
  In 1933,
• 1:28:14
  they realized that, one, there wasn't enough gold or silver to keep doing what we're doing. Do you remember the expression you're worth your weight in gold? Yes.
• 1:28:23
  Well, I believe that is still to do today. The only difference now is
• 1:28:28
  they couldn't give us gold.
• 1:28:30
  So in this country, Magna Carta time, 12, whatever, 15, 12, whatever.
• 1:28:36
  You literally, as a mother and father, could go to the king and say, here's my baby boy or girl.
• 1:28:43
  She weighs... He weighs six, seven pound. What if... Now I was a ten pound, so I'd have been a bloody millionaire by now. Yeah. You'd have been doing great. Yeah. Right. So here's the thing. Well, the king could no longer give gold or silver.
• 1:28:56
  So what...
• 1:28:57
  They knew that they had to come up even back in the twelve hundreds.
• 1:29:00
  So what did they do? Well, they created a stewardship, a management
• 1:29:05
  system.
• 1:29:06
  What we'll do, we'll provide you with employment. We'll give you benefits, we'll give you this, we'll give you that.
• 1:29:12
  Does that not sound as soon today?
• 1:29:15
  Should we call it social services today?
• 1:29:17
  Unknown: We do.
• 1:29:19
  Unknown: But
• 1:29:20
  what happened in 1933,
• 1:29:21
  Paul, not only did the world go bankrupt,
• 1:29:24
  but they had to come up with a better sis... Well, not one say a better system, but they have to come up with a system.
• 1:29:30
  Well, here's a name for your audience,
• 1:29:32
  Edward Mandelhouse.
• 1:29:36
  Unknown: Yes. He was...
• 1:29:37
  He wrote a book called Philip Drew administrator,
• 1:29:41
  which is quite interesting in which he lays down his ideas. Yeah. He was Now what he said, and he said it to to the
• 1:29:49
  Unknown: US president Woodrow Wilson's assistant, wasn't he? Woodrow Wilson. He was secretary to Woodrow Wilson.
• 1:29:55
  Yep. He said to him, we're going to have... And and this is... Now some people say that this isn't true, but I believe it is because there are recordings.
• 1:30:03
  Now what we... You know, people say, oh, we say, you know, it's
• 1:30:07
  c... What what do you call it? CGI, whatever. I said, well, hold on. You know, it looks period. It looks right. But he actually states
• 1:30:16
  we're gonna have to come up with a system whereby
• 1:30:19
  every person that is born,
• 1:30:22
  and that's another vernacular that we'll talk about
• 1:30:26
  every person that is born, they'll have to register that child as security
• 1:30:30
  and we will make millions of them and they won't know.
• 1:30:35
  How... However,
• 1:30:37
  maybe,
• 1:30:38
  just maybe,
• 1:30:39
  one in a million people will work it all out.
• 1:30:43
  Now I'm saying to your audience, I'm not one in a million as I'm sure you are and I'm sure many of your listeners are because we've started to work this out.
• 1:30:54
  Unknown: Yeah. I think... Yeah. We have. John Maynard Keynes, the famous sodomite and economist,
• 1:31:00
  said something along those lines. He said not one man in a million will be able to work out how this whole thing
• 1:31:07
  works.
• 1:31:07
  I think it's true. I think... I mean, just going back to your point about gold as well, which is a sort of separate thing. I think there is enough gold in the earth. I just think that the plan I think the plan has been to create the impression by control of the media
• 1:31:23
  that there isn't. But there is... There's there's tons of it. There's absolutely... There's so much of it that it would unsettle their manipulation of the gold market. Well, do you want do you want the figure?
• 1:31:35
  Well, you can give me one, but I'm gonna throw something else at you, which you might not be... Yeah. But go on. Give me your figure. I wanna know. Yeah. The last time I went... Or when I started doing this research,
• 1:31:44
  Unknown: there is 167,000
• 1:31:49
  metric tons of gold.
• 1:31:52
  Unknown: Yes. I think I've heard that figure. You know, do you remember? That's an old figure. That's that's... I mean, could watch that for research. Do you remember that guy... Was it Konrad Adenauer, the guy that was head of Austria?
• 1:32:02
  Yeah.
• 1:32:03
  Him?
• 1:32:04
  He was involved with... There's a guy I've been... I can't get him. There was a a wonderful guy used to write over here in Nexus Magazine in in the nineties called David Guyatt, a Brit or an Englishman.
• 1:32:16
  He's still alive, understand, but he's understandably
• 1:32:19
  off the radar.
• 1:32:20
  And he wrote a whole series of articles in Nexus Magazine,
• 1:32:23
  and has a website, which is kind of dormant, but still they're called deep black lies.
• 1:32:30
  And it's about
• 1:32:31
  the complete obfuscation
• 1:32:33
  and lying about the true data of the amount of gold that's in the earth. And that guy,
• 1:32:38
  it might not be Conrad. I don't know. He was member of the SS. I think I might have mixed him up with someone else. He was head of Austria anyway. He was alive when I was a kid. He was
• 1:32:47
  a military guy. There there are records from him in the nineteen forties
• 1:32:51
  with amounts bigger than a 166,000
• 1:32:53
  that they buried away. The Chinese have got absolutely gobloods of it buried in volcanoes.
• 1:32:59
  And I also saw something with regards to The Philippines,
• 1:33:02
  which is an amazing...
• 1:33:04
  There's several stories with The Philippines. The Philippines is about 3,000,
• 1:33:07
  4,000 islands.
• 1:33:09
  And from satellite, they've actually tracked that there's there's so much gold in those islands that they've been squirrelling away or whatever.
• 1:33:17
  They're talking about trillions
• 1:33:19
  of ounces of gold. Trillions of ounces. Right? Yep. Which is billions of billions of it. And there's just, I mean, it's it's the most bizarre thing.
• 1:33:29
  And you realize that, I'm all for gold and silver being money. They are money because they're commodities. They're stuff. Yeah. Right? Unlike currency.
• 1:33:36
  But again, the problem that we're facing is that the
• 1:33:41
  the dark brothers, as it were, the brothers on the dark side of the family tree have managed to obviously get and get a hold of the reporting mechanisms around that, so that everybody has now got an unclear idea of what the real situation is, and therefore are
• 1:33:56
  easy to manipulate, relatively speaking. Yeah,
• 1:33:59
  absolutely. That's what I tend to think.
• 1:34:01
  Unknown: Yeah, and here's the solution.
• 1:34:04
  When Nixon took America and arguably the world off the gold standard,
• 1:34:10
  Because
• 1:34:11
  he also realised,
• 1:34:13
  as
• 1:34:14
  King John in 12/15,
• 1:34:16
  I think it was, also realised that there wasn't enough gold.
• 1:34:20
  He said that we've got to change this and we've got to find... So what does he do? Now I'm going to quote what he said because most people miss this.
• 1:34:29
  I've instructed
• 1:34:30
  the secretary of state
• 1:34:32
  to temporarily
• 1:34:33
  suspend
• 1:34:35
  the gold standard.
• 1:34:38
  Temporarily
• 1:34:39
  suspend.
• 1:34:40
  Yeah. Do you know that has never been repealed to this day?
• 1:34:45
  Now here's the thing.
• 1:34:47
  Within
• 1:34:48
  five months of the gold standard being taken off the market,
• 1:34:53
  even to this day,
• 1:34:55
  Within five months, the price of gold shot up that much
• 1:35:00
  that it could have cleared
• 1:35:02
  the American debt there and then one fell swoop.
• 1:35:06
  So I believe,
• 1:35:08
  given that there are approximately 167,000
• 1:35:12
  tons,
• 1:35:14
  if you were to divide that
• 1:35:16
  now this is how simple this is
• 1:35:19
  if you were to divide that into ounces
• 1:35:22
  and then divide that into the population,
• 1:35:25
  whatever you believe the population to be,
• 1:35:28
  and take it back to the weight in gold principle,
• 1:35:32
  there would be a thousand times the weight of your gold, enough
• 1:35:38
  monetary wealth
• 1:35:40
  that you'd never have to worry again
• 1:35:43
  at all.
• 1:35:45
  Unknown: Well, I don't think you'd have to worry on a monetary level, but I think that the spiritual battle, I don't know whether how that would quell it, but I'm with you. Believe you me, I I... But here's the thing, Paul, and again, I I I don't say anything on I won't say anything on my call that I won't take back to scripture.
• 1:36:00
  Unknown: When Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden of Eden, do you know what the first conversation God had with them after rejecting him? No.
• 1:36:09
  Oh, by the way,
• 1:36:11
  the gold's over there and the onyx stones over there.
• 1:36:17
  Hence,
• 1:36:18
  Komerus was introduced to the world
• 1:36:21
  right from the get go.
• 1:36:23
  And that's what now people say Christ was born in poverty. No, he wasn't.
• 1:36:28
  What were the three gifts that he received?
• 1:36:31
  Gold,
• 1:36:32
  frankincense
• 1:36:34
  and myrrh.
• 1:36:35
  Three of the wealthiest
• 1:36:37
  commodities on the planet even today.
• 1:36:41
  Unknown: A joke about that, know. There's a joke that's told by a guy called Sir Ken
• 1:36:46
  Robinson.
• 1:36:48
  He's dead now, but he came from Liverpool as well, think. I don't know if you ever think so. Them. Yeah, no, he's great. He's talking about this, you know, the nativity play, and he was talking about his son, he said, he'd got the part of Joseph, which we were quite pleased about, he says, we thought this was one of the best parts, know, it's really good. Anyway, said these, maybe this is a set of joke, he's good. So the three lads came on, and they they kind of got in the wrong order,
• 1:37:10
  and the first one says, I bring gold,
• 1:37:13
  and the second one said, I bring myrrh, and the third one said, Frank sent this,
• 1:37:20
  which I quite like. I don't care. I think I I think that's pretty cool. But, yeah, the... Yeah. He he started off pretty good, and I think, you know, one of the things I've mentioned a couple of months ago here,
• 1:37:31
  there's a wonder... Maybe I mentioned it to you when we were talking the other day briefly. There's a guy called Michael Hudson, alive, American economist wrote a book called... 2017
• 1:37:40
  called and forgive them their debts.
• 1:37:42
  Yes. And it looks at these early actions of Christ and I got I I it was one of the I had the most wonderful bingo moment reading this because as I was mentioning to you the other day, my path has come from sort of like looking at banking, right,
• 1:37:57
  and going, oh my god, literally, please go on step in this is just unbelievably bad,
• 1:38:02
  And then moving over to scripture to sort of see what it said about money. And Hudson sort of brings it full circle, and what he's basically saying is, certainly in the first 50, 60 pages,
• 1:38:12
  is this thing about the forgiveness of debts,
• 1:38:15
  which was one of Christ's primary aims, which is why he kicked 10 bells out of those money changers,
• 1:38:21
  and then a couple of days later, he's chased into a synagogue
• 1:38:24
  and
• 1:38:25
  told to preach to them all. And he picks something out of Isaiah. I can't I think it's chapter 50 or something, I can't remember, but what it's talking about is the day of the Lord
• 1:38:35
  and you go, oh it's just a nice day. No, it means the day of the Lord is the day of Jubilee
• 1:38:40
  of the forgiveness of all debts and the crowd is in the account,
• 1:38:45
  they get quite cross with him about this.
• 1:38:48
  They really do. These are first couple of things he's done. Right? It's a bit of a rough start,
• 1:38:52
  and they get pretty cross. And what Hudson suggests
• 1:38:55
  and really backs up is that the people in that congregation at that time, they were part of the creditor class. They didn't want all the debts forgiven, so they tried to chase him off a cliff.
• 1:39:05
  Now it was bit of a rough start getting out there. I'll go out now. I've gotta get on with my mission. Right? And so first thing he does is he's knocking 10 bells out of people in the temple, and then a couple of days later, he's getting pushed off a cliff. You go, there you go. He didn't get pushed off a cliff, obviously. He said he passed through them, but I think that's amazing because one of the things that he he then looks at Hudson is he says, if you go back before then to Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar,
• 1:39:28
  and all these other previous things, all the way rooting back to this origin
• 1:39:32
  of commerce and civilization.
• 1:39:35
  Nearly all the monarchs of the time, whenever a new one was being crowned, their very first act was to declare Jubilee and forgive all the debts and it's the
• 1:39:44
  the reflex the action of the of the nation is almost overnight.
• 1:39:49
  It recovers its strength,
• 1:39:51
  all the productivity comes back, people are buoyant, they're positive,
• 1:39:56
  they begin to move things, they're not bogged down. So debt,
• 1:39:59
  the control of this system of debt is the way that the the human spirit is absolutely subdued and huge amounts of our time during our life is wasted,
• 1:40:08
  absorbed in this effectively psychological and then real sort of enslavement system. And and again that that segues
• 1:40:16
  Unknown: beautifully with Scripture because
• 1:40:19
  the
• 1:40:20
  Jewish law around
• 1:40:23
  money, currency, whatever way you want to use it, was that you don't borrow from your brother unless he esteemed you to be his enemy. So we know that debt, loans and all that, you know, it can only end up in one way.
• 1:40:36
  So the idea of the
• 1:40:38
  counterbalance
• 1:40:39
  to that, whereas gold and silver was always the balance for currency,
• 1:40:43
  by taking gold and silver out the equation, well, there's no balance anymore, so therefore, we can do what the hell we want. And we call that inflation today, or we call it,
• 1:40:52
  you know, what's the word? Not inflation.
• 1:40:55
  Blah.
• 1:40:56
  It's gone.
• 1:40:58
  Where we use currency and we increase it and blah blah blah. Anyway,
• 1:41:03
  so the the the idea of the SMITA,
• 1:41:07
  which is every seven years,
• 1:41:09
  they knew that every seventh year, no matter how wealthy they'd done, no matter how good the business was, no matter what was going on,
• 1:41:18
  you had to cancel all debts.
• 1:41:22
  Then what it does, and you've said it, it creates this drive because there's a balance.
• 1:41:27
  All of a sudden, we've got a refresh. Well, guess what year we're in, Paul?
• 1:41:31
  We're in the schmeter year, '20...
• 1:41:35
  You go on my YouTube channel, Paul Gunson. I
• 1:41:38
  was saying this in 2017,
• 1:41:40
  which was interesting when you were saying that guy before.
• 1:41:44
  Unknown: Yeah, when his book came out. Yeah.
• 1:41:47
  Unknown: Because I was saying 2026,
• 1:41:49
  2027 on my podcast,
• 1:41:51
  sorry, on my YouTube channel was that there was going to be a significant change in the world.
• 1:41:57
  Now, the time, I didn't know what that was. I kind of felt
• 1:42:01
  it had something to do with the second coming, but I thought, no, it's too early. It's not quite that. There's something else. And here's what it is. And again, I'll go back to scripture.
• 1:42:10
  When Jesus was preparing for his last supper knowing that his his death is pending
• 1:42:17
  Yeah. The apostles say, well, where where do we go from here? What are we gonna do? How are we gonna do? He said, right. What I want you to do, I want you to go to that village over there,
• 1:42:27
  and I want you to
• 1:42:30
  go and book a room in an upper chamber,
• 1:42:34
  and then I'll come and meet you. Now this is prophetic because they haven't been to... The apostles haven't been to this place, a village town, whatever you wanna call it. They don't know where they are. They don't know what's going on, but... And the apostles say to Jesus, well, how do we know where to go? He said, right. What I want you to do,
• 1:42:51
  and this brings it right forward,
• 1:42:53
  what I want you to do is that when you go into the village, you'll see a man with a pitcher. Now if anyone doesn't know what a pitcher is, it's like a big vase
• 1:43:02
  that they either carry water or wine in. Yeah? Yeah. Pitcher as in p I t c h e r. E r. Yeah. Pitcher. It's it's just like a big vase, which probably got about
• 1:43:13
  20 gallons of water or something, old wine. He said, follow him. When he goes into that building, secure the chamber upstairs and I'll meet you there later. Now that was prophecy
• 1:43:24
  because here's the thing, anybody who's into astrology,
• 1:43:28
  do you know what the sign for the picture is in the astrological world?
• 1:43:33
  Aquarius, is it? It is Aquarius. Well done.
• 1:43:36
  Head of the class. So
• 1:43:38
  what he was saying,
• 1:43:40
  there's going to come a time at the end, because he's now talking about the end of the Last Supper and preparing to go into Gethsemane and all that stuff, right, before his crucifixion.
• 1:43:50
  He was telling the apostles,
• 1:43:52
  the sign of my coming
• 1:43:55
  is the age of Aquarius,
• 1:43:57
  where there will be an outpouring
• 1:44:01
  of knowledge.
• 1:44:03
  And that's right where we are, right as we speak. I think so. So this group of people who are
• 1:44:11
  truthers, revealers, whatever, spiritualists, whatever word you want to use, doesn't matter, they're all the same.
• 1:44:17
  Those who have ears to hear
• 1:44:19
  and those who have eyes to see will see and hear this stuff.
• 1:44:24
  Those who don't,
• 1:44:26
  you couldn't smash symbols over their ears to make them hear.
• 1:44:31
  They just won't wake up.
• 1:44:33
  This is always, always, always going to be
• 1:44:38
  a little bit
• 1:44:40
  or a very small remnant.
• 1:44:42
  Now, if we go back to that medical procedure that took place in 2020, and by the way, I lost my wife after forty two years to that event. I'm sorry to hear that, Paul But but here's the thing. Here's
• 1:44:55
  the thing.
• 1:44:57
  Those who have ears to hear this stuff will hear it. Those who have eyes will see it. And if those who don't hear, it's no good beating them around the head because they're not going to hear it or see it. So
• 1:45:09
  the reason why I'm a truther,
• 1:45:11
  ten years ago, I was a conspiracy theorist and I've got the 10 out to prove it. But
• 1:45:17
  now,
• 1:45:18
  with the knowledge
• 1:45:19
  and the understanding
• 1:45:21
  behind what I've
• 1:45:22
  studied and seen and watched and listened to,
• 1:45:26
  because I don't think there's any one person out there who's got the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God.
• 1:45:31
  Unknown: I agree. I think that's really rather encouraging as well. Yeah. Because I think what it's what it... There's a little signal going out to everybody that's acquired a lot of knowledge going... They begin to realize that, look, I couldn't know it all. I've got to work with others. You've got to work And that's kind of my mission, Paul, because the reason why when you said in your opening statement that you didn't know much about me, I'll tell you for why. It's very very simple.
• 1:45:58
  Unknown: The world wasn't ready for what I've had to... What I know.
• 1:46:02
  It wasn't ready because the one common
• 1:46:06
  theme that I see right through
• 1:46:09
  this truth movement
• 1:46:11
  is
• 1:46:12
  we're dealing with the same problem. It's called the ego.
• 1:46:17
  Everybody
• 1:46:18
  believes that what they've got is the answer.
• 1:46:21
  And all I've ever done,
• 1:46:23
  we've got to come around the table. So there are groups.
• 1:46:27
  I work with a group called TECA,
• 1:46:29
  the English County Assembly.
• 1:46:31
  You might have heard of CABBI,
• 1:46:34
  the Counties Assembly of the British Isles.
• 1:46:37
  There's others, NACE, many
• 1:46:40
  of the sovereign projects, I teach sovereign projects stuff.
• 1:46:44
  So it's not about anyone.
• 1:46:46
  But I believe if everybody got around the table together,
• 1:46:50
  we'd have all of the solutions.
• 1:46:52
  But because they won't drop the ego,
• 1:46:55
  and unfortunately,
• 1:46:56
  in many, many cases,
• 1:46:58
  it's all again into a military system where they want everybody to pay for everything,
• 1:47:04
  Unknown: I believe the information should be free. I believe... I think it has to be. I think it has to be to have any real value, Paul. I think it's... There's
• 1:47:13
  something about giving things.
• 1:47:16
  When you think about it, it's a unique act in comparison to everything else that you do, and therefore it comes you are actually
• 1:47:24
  at the point of giving, you are rewarded. It's like, oh, I don't want to be somebody else's servant. Yeah. You do actually.
• 1:47:30
  You do. Because service given
• 1:47:33
  in a high state of integrity is an astonishing thing, and it's transformative of everybody around you that witnesses it. You know? Same for me. Yeah. But the world, you know, the the... This this good and bad world, if you like,
• 1:47:45
  Unknown: you know, the the bad world says, oh, no. No. Well, you know, what about my time, or what about this, or what about that? And, yeah, I get it. The... You know? I mean I mean, if you could see my bedroom now, I've got 20 odd clients worth of paperwork that I'm shuffling through ready for tomorrow.
• 1:48:01
  But I'm glad I'm not the only one. Yeah. I don't apply this paperwork. I know what you mean. I mean, I've just spent a £100 a day just getting bloody documents
• 1:48:10
  scanned and nightmare.
• 1:48:12
  But anyway, so so the issue here, Paul, and I get... I'm very much aware of time now,
• 1:48:18
  is
• 1:48:19
  what I've done, and I'm not saying it's unique, and I'm not saying I'm any better than anybody else, but I've tied the biblical narrative into what is now the history that we're living
• 1:48:31
  and how all of that ties biblically.
• 1:48:34
  Because I believe the answer is in the Bible. And the answer that I've come up with is this:
• 1:48:40
  When enough people stand up... Have you ever seen that
• 1:48:44
  print
• 1:48:45
  where you see all the fat cats playing
• 1:48:47
  cards and,
• 1:48:49
  you know, smoking cigars, and then underneath it, you've got a group of slaves where they've got the the board on top?
• 1:48:55
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:48:56
  Unknown: Yeah. I think another one you mean. Yeah. The way to stop the the way... The way to stop the game is to stand up. If we can get enough people to stand up to the corruption of the banks, to corruption of the judicial system,
• 1:49:09
  even down to your local tax and I'm going to say this, and don't shoot me, I'm just a messenger
• 1:49:15
  There is no
• 1:49:16
  lawful
• 1:49:17
  requirement for anybody
• 1:49:19
  to pay tax.
• 1:49:21
  Tax was always a gift.
• 1:49:24
  Unfortunately,
• 1:49:26
  people got a hold of it. And as with the whole thing, they corrupt it. So people like Sovereign
• 1:49:32
  Project and Kabi and TechA,
• 1:49:34
  it's all about status. It's knowing who you are. Now,
• 1:49:38
  I'm working with a noble organization,
• 1:49:40
  which I'm going to be really the focus of what I'll be doing on my podcast called the Genesis Trust.
• 1:49:46
  So go
• 1:49:47
  on YouTube, bit of a plug, but go on YouTube
• 1:49:50
  because
• 1:49:51
  what that group of people are doing that I've never ever seen up until this year
• 1:49:57
  is they take it right back biblically
• 1:50:01
  and they say this.
• 1:50:03
  Until you understand your relationship with the creator,
• 1:50:07
  whatever you mean that to be,
• 1:50:10
  then Yep. You're always, always,
• 1:50:14
  always gonna be fighting. Now there are there are 11 levels.
• 1:50:18
  Level one is the creator.
• 1:50:20
  Level two
• 1:50:22
  is God's law. Level three is the common law, the the law that we've kind of grew up with. Pragmatically applied God's law in the real world. Yeah. Yeah. And then four is man and
• 1:50:35
  woman
• 1:50:36
  as the biological
• 1:50:38
  beneficiaries
• 1:50:39
  of
• 1:50:40
  airship to this
• 1:50:42
  world.
• 1:50:43
  We were given dominion of the air to look after it, to nurture it, to keep it clean, look after it, and well. And it's been you safe. Now here's a new word for you. Gotta put my teeth in to say this. Oh, good.
• 1:50:57
  Laugh up the word
• 1:50:59
  yousefruht.
• 1:51:02
  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Yousefruht.
• 1:51:03
  Unknown: Yeah. It's a lovely word. You don't understand it, then you certainly are.
• 1:51:08
  Oh, I like that. That's very witty. Right? Yeah. Usufruct, you lot. Yeah. Usufruct, literally. And and the whole of humanity has been usufruct.
• 1:51:18
  And if you look... I'm gonna give you the quick definition of that because people are thinking, what the people knows? That never heard that word.
• 1:51:24
  What it means is
• 1:51:26
  they've taken you
• 1:51:29
  and they've created the monster.
• 1:51:32
  It's called the birth certificate.
• 1:51:34
  The wealth is the birth certificate,
• 1:51:37
  but they've used the fructe and
• 1:51:40
  they've made you
• 1:51:41
  the trustee of that trust
• 1:51:45
  when you are actually the beneficiary. Yes.
• 1:51:49
  Unknown: I think these things are so key. I mean I mean, I'm... They're very key. And just going back to that thing you were saying a few minutes ago about ego and all that kind of stuff. I mean, I think everybody needs... I mean, look, you won't get behind the mic if you didn't have a little bit. Right? So it's all a matter of it getting out of hand, I think. Or maybe I'm using the wrong word. Maybe it's just you you feel absolute... People feel compelled to speak about these things and more and more are feeling compelled and that's that's wonderful. You need as many voices we can get. But I'm I'm reminded... I mean, I keep quoting scripture more and more, which I think is probably a good sign. About 20 ago, I'd have sort of been all awkward about it. Do you know what I mean? Because I think it would have been heard wrong. But there's something... I think it's in Ephesians. It's an... Everybody will have heard it, I probably said it here a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:52:33
  where the
• 1:52:35
  creator God is addressing
• 1:52:37
  the situation, he's saying, if my people
• 1:52:40
  will turn their face towards me and humble themselves,
• 1:52:45
  I. E. Get rid of the ego,
• 1:52:47
  right, and humble themselves,
• 1:52:49
  I will hear their pleas from heaven and I will heal their land, and that's the first thing and I'm sure this is why the first commandment, know, was act, which is the most important of all the commandments. So the first one, love God.
• 1:53:03
  Yeah because without that context everything else is mean it's meaningless and people are like oh God doesn't exist, you've just got a bit more work to do than everybody else. Think
• 1:53:11
  careful thought and consideration
• 1:53:14
  must mean
• 1:53:15
  that there's a causative factor
• 1:53:17
  for why we are able to conduct our lives in these astonishing things called bodies, these vessels that have got 4,000,000,000,000
• 1:53:24
  cells in them or something. We don't even know how they work and we're bumming around in these things.
• 1:53:28
  Yeah. And it's just it's an astonishing thing when you actually, you know, everybody calm down, think about it, start looking at the numbers, you go, bloody hell, This really is an astonishing thing, but I do think it's this humbling
• 1:53:39
  because I'm reasonably sure the creator will not. We... It's not possible for us to do it because it's not this without that help, without that
• 1:53:49
  bending of the knee. You've got to just... You've
• 1:53:51
  got to do it. That's that's what comes on the contract. Must do that if you want to be happy, you know. Yeah. And just to,
• 1:53:58
  Unknown: again, conscious of time,
• 1:54:00
  just two scriptures that I think really
• 1:54:03
  thrash this out and really make this make sense.
• 1:54:06
  Yeah. The first one is my people perish
• 1:54:11
  for lack of knowledge.
• 1:54:13
  First one. Now I think it's Eli. He looks like he's quite a scriptorian, so you probably know where that one is. Now
• 1:54:20
  the other one is one that's never I've never ever heard it quoted. I came across it last year.
• 1:54:26
  Now it's in Habakkah, I can't pronounce it, Habakkah, which is the Old Testament,
• 1:54:31
  it says this, and this is I think where we are.
• 1:54:34
  It says,
• 1:54:36
  in the last days, again quoting
• 1:54:38
  Revelation,
• 1:54:40
  in the last days,
• 1:54:42
  when knowledge is freely available.
• 1:54:44
  Now, if you look at the internet now,
• 1:54:46
  they can't hide this stuff from us anymore. It's out there.
• 1:54:50
  It says, and I quote,
• 1:54:52
  There will come a group of people.
• 1:54:55
  Arise,
• 1:54:56
  arise,
• 1:54:57
  my people.
• 1:54:58
  Come forth with your thrashes. Now biblically,
• 1:55:03
  thrasher is a piece of wood on the end of a rope,
• 1:55:06
  and they would thrash the wheat to separate the wheat from the chaff.
• 1:55:10
  Be familiar with that quote. Yep, I am. And
• 1:55:13
  the outcome of that scripturally
• 1:55:15
  is this:
• 1:55:16
  And they will come forth
• 1:55:19
  and they will change the record.
• 1:55:23
  I believe
• 1:55:24
  record is the birth certificate
• 1:55:27
  because we've all been usufruct
• 1:55:29
  as slaves to this system of
• 1:55:32
  not only
• 1:55:34
  currency.
• 1:55:36
  Do you know what else came out in 1935
• 1:55:38
  that demonstrates the whole thing?
• 1:55:41
  What came out in '19 The '30
• 1:55:43
  Unknown: board game Monopoly.
• 1:55:46
  I did.
• 1:55:47
  Unknown: They told us in they told us in plain sight exactly what they were gonna do to us.
• 1:55:53
  If you land on this property, I'm gonna tax you. If you park your car here, you're gonna be taxed. If you do this, you're gonna get a fine.
• 1:56:00
  And if you're not a good boy or girl, guess where you're going? You're going straight to jail, and you will not receive your benefits,
• 1:56:09
  and you certainly won't have any privileges.
• 1:56:13
  They're telling us.
• 1:56:15
  And then the ultimate one in closing to allow anybody who wants to speak is this.
• 1:56:21
  The day will come when you, without the mark of the beast, you will not be able to buy or sell.
• 1:56:27
  That for me is CBDCs.
• 1:56:31
  We will be totally
• 1:56:33
  usufruct
• 1:56:35
  because you'll have no control over what you do,
• 1:56:40
  and I did adjust my teeth on that one.
• 1:56:42
  Unknown: Yeah, you did. No, that's great. Eric, have you got anything you want to say? We just got a couple of minutes before I have to just say goodbye for the end. Yeah. No. I can't think of anything at the moment, but thank you very much for coming on,
• 1:56:54
  Unknown: Paul, because
• 1:56:55
  it's been very... You know, it's fascinating.
• 1:56:58
  And I do think that we
• 1:57:01
  have little clues in the past,
• 1:57:03
  And I also believe that there was an advanced civilization
• 1:57:07
  years ago
• 1:57:09
  Tataria. That was trying to warn us. Well, not necessarily Tataria.
• 1:57:13
  I think ten thousand four hundred years ago,
• 1:57:16
  I don't think the
• 1:57:18
  pyramids were made by the Egyptians.
• 1:57:20
  Used it to worship him, but it wasn't made by them. It's too accurate. And they're also looking at Stonehenge
• 1:57:26
  now.
• 1:57:27
  That is absolutely unbelievable.
• 1:57:30
  Some form of computer,
• 1:57:31
  but it is made by very advanced civilization,
• 1:57:35
  which probably got wiped out. Or were they warning us of something? We just don't know. Why is it made of stone, not of wood? Yeah. That's the thing. Just to wrap up here. Thanks, Eric. Paul, it's been fantastic having you on. I know we were slightly delayed at the beginning, but
• 1:57:51
  Unknown: all all good things come to those away. It was fantastic. I'll be speaking to you again because we're gonna get you up and running with the show here on FFT imminently,
• 1:58:00
  which will be great. But I've really really enjoyed tonight. A lot of fun. A lot of fun, a lot of knowledge, and a lot... Just to get your take on these things.
• 1:58:09
  I found it very refreshing. So thank you very much for for rocking up tonight and and giving us a small part of your thinking, I'm sure. No. Thank you. Thank you for the invitation. I really appreciate it. Yeah. That's wonderful. Fantastic.
• 1:58:23
  Okay. That's Paul Gunson everybody, and no doubt he'll be back here or even on his own show imminently.
• 1:58:29
  We're coming to the end of the second hour where we say goodbye to all your listeners on WBN three two four. And if you don't want to say goodbye, if you think it's... Oh, I don't want... I want to keep on listening to this, head on over to paulenglishlive.com
• 1:58:44
  and click the radio link at the top or the YouTube link. Don't click rumble today because it's gone the way of the dodo.
• 1:58:50
  But we're on YouTube, and we're also on FFT radio, you can plug in that way. Our other guest, Eli, is gonna be with us after this. I'm gonna play couple of songs here. Another one. This is the... Another Kipling song because I'm quite into these. I think I played this a month back, but I'm playing it again. This is the vampire,
• 1:59:05
  but it's not about those sorts of vampires. It's,
• 1:59:08
  it's quite a heavy poem in a way. Anyway, we're gonna do that on the other and I've I've got a very autumnal thing to play after that. So a couple of tracks, and then we'll be back with you in about four minutes time. Here we go.
• 2:02:02
  Unknown: The
• 2:02:03
  fool stripped
• 2:02:05
  to his
• 2:02:06
  foolish hide,
• 2:02:08
  even as you and I.
• 2:02:13
  But she might have seen when she threw him aside,
• 2:02:18
  but it isn't on record.
• 2:02:21
  The lady
• 2:02:22
  tried,
• 2:02:23
  so some of him lived,
• 2:02:26
  but the most of him died,
• 2:02:29
  even
• 2:02:30
  as
• 2:02:56
  could understand.
• 2:04:37
  Unknown: And that last one was called Blackbird,
• 2:04:40
  and I know it's an instrumental, but I love it. And it's very autumnal.
• 2:04:44
  Isn't it fantastic? Is it James Beck? Or who is it? Jeff Beck. Jeff Beck. Sorry. Yeah. Probably get shot for playing it, but if you can't play it in the autumn on a beautiful day like today, absolutely fantastically
• 2:04:56
  wonderfully haunting little bit of music. I'm alright. I think he's passed on, isn't he, Jeff Beck? He did, unfortunately. Yeah. He passed away. He... I think about two years ago.
• 2:05:06
  Wish he hadn't. Wish he hadn't.
• 2:05:08
  Unknown: I'm not the only one. Amazing, man. Two years ago Anyway, I heard a chuckle. Did you hear that chuckle, Eric? Yes. That's Eli, and I accidentally spelled his name with an e at the end, and your your name hasn't got an e at the end, have you? Am I forgiven, Eli?
• 2:05:21
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:05:23
  Unknown: It's... Eli has an I at the end. Has an I, not an e. I'll just typo. Put
• 2:05:29
  Unknown: Before we get stuck into this, that, and the other, what I wanted to say was, Eli
• 2:05:34
  Yeah. That painting,
• 2:05:36
  that's you that is, isn't it?
• 2:05:39
  Unknown: Right.
• 2:05:40
  Unknown: Come on. It is. I saw it about a week ago, I thought, who is Eli? It's actually,
• 2:05:46
  it's you in the role of Falstaff in a Shakespearean I
• 2:05:50
  just thought you ought to know. Okay? There you go. Yeah. I didn't know you'd done that, but I'm very impressed that you did. So yeah. Well done. I'm Falstaff reincarnated.
• 2:05:59
  Unknown: You are. Yeah. Fantastic. Big trouble.
• 2:06:02
  Unknown: It is. Yeah. So Falstaff's quite a happy fellow. Yeah. Really, but but yeah.
• 2:06:08
  Anyway, how have you how have you been? How have you been? I know you've been busy, you've been moving, and you've been sorting out things, so it must have been quite a challenge, all that. Well, I just had about three or four hours worth of cleaning out
• 2:06:22
  Unknown: gummy,
• 2:06:23
  grimy refrigerator.
• 2:06:25
  Right. Now it looks spotless,
• 2:06:27
  and... But it's not keeping my beer cold.
• 2:06:32
  Have to It's been I I have to turn up the the thermostat, you know, one notch higher to get more cold beer.
• 2:06:40
  Unknown: There's been quite a bit of talk about beer in the chat tonight. Somebody's already had six beers or something. Oh, really? Yeah.
• 2:06:46
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've been reading about
• 2:06:50
  the Temperance Society in Canada.
• 2:06:53
  Seriously? I have. I didn't start, I didn't mean to, thought, I must read a bit of temperance literature,
• 2:07:00
  but it's fascinating
• 2:07:02
  stuff.
• 2:07:03
  Amazing. Really,
• 2:07:06
  it's to do with that book I've mentioned to you called fifty years in the Church of Rome by Charles Chinookie, and he basically he deboozed
• 2:07:15
  Canada.
• 2:07:16
  It's astonishing.
• 2:07:18
  He got them all to... He got everywhere he went, they said, you've got to do this, and and then half the priest didn't want him to do it because they all like getting popped up. Right? And his fights over it are amazing, but all the women are all in tears because what he does is, goes to a town, I don't know like Montreal or somewhere like that,
• 2:07:35
  and before he gives his first sermon
• 2:07:37
  and address,
• 2:07:38
  he ran around and he's getting all this data on the amount of people that died from drowning, from being drunk,
• 2:07:45
  the amount of families that had split up, the destitute and poor children, and all. And he comes up with a complete, like a data sheet. He's a data spreadsheet of it, and he uses this as the backbone for his pitch to them, which lasted about two hours. Yeah? He was he was an AI preacher.
• 2:08:00
  Well, was... I mean, it's just... He's a he's a wonderfully interesting character. I'm sort of so impressed with him. I really am. His internal
• 2:08:08
  emotional fights about being effectively
• 2:08:12
  trapped. I don't think he's too strong a phrase, but he's trapped because of his convictions in the Church of Rome, and yet he's having all these disturbing questions,
• 2:08:19
  which get him into nothing but trouble with the higher ups in the whole thing. You really feel for him. It's it's a tremendous thing, but yeah, he manages to effectively...
• 2:08:29
  There's a place called Beau Port. I don't know where it is in Canada, it's a place called Beau Port.
• 2:08:34
  And when he went there in the eighteen forties or something, the whole... Basically, the whole town was just basically drunks.
• 2:08:39
  I mean, it's just horrific. Right? And it's a beautiful place, apparently. He said he didn't wanna go because
• 2:08:45
  he he knew of its reputation, and the land was fertile. They had the rivers and everything. He said they had everything that they needed. Unfortunately, they also had five taverns.
• 2:08:54
  Yeah. I'm not gonna speculate as to who owed them, but whoever it is that did own them were making an absolute bloody fortune.
• 2:09:01
  And he manages to get the whole thing stopped.
• 2:09:04
  I mean, it's just... It's quite impressive. I don't think you could do that today, but it is impressive. Yeah. It's just impressive. Well, they try to do that with what? The sixteenth... No. The eighteenth amendment.
• 2:09:13
  Unknown: Right. They they stopped
• 2:09:15
  selling alcohol.
• 2:09:18
  Unknown: Yes. But it didn't work. It did not work because we had... Well, they did it in the wrong way, didn't they? Sort of. I think probably by design to drive the whole of the booze industry into
• 2:09:28
  the the Brompheman family's hands in Canada, Seagram, that was their thing. They picked it all up, didn't they? Afterwards. Yeah. Well, in America though, the use of the alcohol was to run vehicles like tractors.
• 2:09:41
  Unknown: That's Yeah. The farmers were making their own fuel for their tractors,
• 2:09:46
  and the Rockefellers
• 2:09:48
  wanted to convert them to buying gasoline.
• 2:09:52
  So the Rockefellers
• 2:09:54
  paid $2,000,000
• 2:09:55
  to the Women's Temperance Union to activate against the...
• 2:09:59
  Against alcohol.
• 2:10:01
  Mhmm. And and they bribed a lot of politicians and, you know, and then the whole... What do you call the underground, the underworld
• 2:10:08
  made all kinds of money from the speakeasies, and there you go. All of a sudden, Americans became users of gasoline
• 2:10:15
  instead of alcohol.
• 2:10:18
  Unknown: Lovely.
• 2:10:19
  Bribry in politics, you say, I've never heard of such a thing. Yeah. Right. We don't have that sort of thing over here, Eli, you know, because we don't do that sort of thing. We just have incompetent children in charge now, maniac children. That's really what we've been They look grown up. They look grown up. They do look it, don't they? Don't be deceived. Don't be fooled.
• 2:10:38
  Yeah. They they dress up quite nice, but then you see the sort of sentences that are coming out of their mouths, you go, woah, we've got a live one here or a dead one. I don't know. Yeah. It's
• 2:10:48
  it's
• 2:10:49
  Unknown: quite a challenge. Reminds me of that movie where... I never watched the movie. I just read the review of it where two guys have a friend who dies
• 2:10:58
  and and his pocket, his wallet is full of credit cards.
• 2:11:03
  So they they walk him around the various stores with a credit card in his hand.
• 2:11:10
  Yep. And whenever they wanna buy something, he... They swipe his hand across the... What do you call it? The the cash register for lack of a better term, and they buy stuff.
• 2:11:20
  Yep. And I I guess they keep buying stuff. I guess they have to add more and more perfume
• 2:11:25
  to to his body, or maybe they use embalming fluid, and then maybe they do that. So anyway, they took advantage of his credit cards while he... They could move him around.
• 2:11:36
  Mhmm. And so I guess there's a lot of people
• 2:11:40
  you were talking... Your previous guest, Paul
• 2:11:44
  Paul. Yeah. Paul Gunson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was talking about people
• 2:11:48
  just don't...
• 2:11:50
  They're not perceptive. They they don't see what's going on and capable of seeing it because we're all... Well, we're all egotists. That's for sure.
• 2:11:57
  But we're also, you know, especially
• 2:12:00
  these days, so focused on
• 2:12:03
  making our own ends meet
• 2:12:05
  and making that thread called life become
• 2:12:10
  easier for us, if we possibly can make it easier,
• 2:12:13
  that we really don't care about anything else except that. You know, it's like your nose to the grindstone.
• 2:12:19
  Mhmm. And you you don't notice things like, yeah, there's a cadaver buying some goods at the grocery store.
• 2:12:25
  Right? Yeah.
• 2:12:27
  And there's a cadaver
• 2:12:28
  running the country.
• 2:12:31
  Unknown: Yeah. Well Paul was talking earlier on, maybe before you caught him, about watching...
• 2:12:37
  You might remember this. Remember that TV series in the seventies called Little House on the Prairie? Oh yeah. Yes. Yeah.
• 2:12:43
  So a really good hearted thing wasn't it? It was a good hearted thing and he was talking about when he was young, he would just cry watching it. He didn't even know why.
• 2:12:51
  Yeah. But it's that sense of community and connection and the real values, which
• 2:12:56
  have all been
• 2:12:58
  chewed out. We ended up in a robot state, and that's the bit that's missing. That's the bit that actually makes life worth living,
• 2:13:05
  where all that wonderful sort of stuff is in the hidden glue of the whole thing.
• 2:13:10
  And I think, you know, that's what you're kind of addressing there. This this community thing, the fact that you've got a cadaver
• 2:13:15
  lined up buying their stuff, and you you know, supermarkets,
• 2:13:20
  for example, just another space
• 2:13:22
  where people are cut off from natural
• 2:13:25
  expressive communication. It really is dull in comparison to what it used to be going down to markets and everybody yelling at one another and haggling over the prices and then bursting out laughing, then having an argument. Hey, calm down. All this kind of... Oh, look, it's life. It's human beings actually being alive, being fools, and then being good, all that kind of stuff. But at least it had energy and genuine...
• 2:13:46
  There was a truth to it. Now it's just...
• 2:13:49
  You you know what it's like. It's just got silly. Yeah. The world is full of happy drunks. What's
• 2:13:55
  Unknown: the line in Scripture?
• 2:13:57
  The
• 2:13:58
  world is
• 2:14:00
  intoxicated
• 2:14:01
  but not with alcohol,
• 2:14:04
  with ignorance.
• 2:14:06
  Yes. Okay. With lies,
• 2:14:09
  okay? And that they can't see through the lies. So Paul was absolutely right. People just cannot see through the lies.
• 2:14:15
  Unknown: But that's why we're here, is to help them see through the lies, Okay? Yes. I think so. Yeah. And to support one another, to not get tricked. Because it's... If you drop your guard, you get sucked into something, and you're gonna go, damn. They got me. Yeah. You gotta watch
• 2:14:29
  Unknown: It's interesting. What kind of a high
• 2:14:33
  or kick?
• 2:14:34
  Remember that song?
• 2:14:36
  Kicks ain't getting you anywhere. So anyway, the the kicks... The... What a con artist...
• 2:14:43
  The thrill that a con artist gets
• 2:14:45
  from taking advantage of a sucker.
• 2:14:48
  Right?
• 2:14:49
  Yeah. It's got to be enormous. It's gotta be better than cocaine,
• 2:14:54
  especially because you're cheating that person out of their money.
• 2:14:59
  That's gotta be it's gotta be a tremendous
• 2:15:01
  thrill
• 2:15:02
  Unknown: for people who like to do that sort of thing. I think you might be right, you know. Yeah. You might... I mean, when you... I mean, I still am to a degree. When I was young, I was very... I I used to love magic, you know. It's... So...
• 2:15:15
  And I liked card... I like table magic more than banking. Now that's why you got into banking.
• 2:15:21
  Maybe.
• 2:15:22
  Yes. A type of a black magic, but I did... I quite liked it. I thought it was... I I loved sort of close-up magic, you know, cards and things right in front of your face. You're going, oh, I can't work that out. I quite... Yeah. But the more I've looked at it, the less impressed I've been with it. Not with their skill set or their dedication to their art and craft, but the fact that it's based on just deceiving people. I'm going, this is actually a goofy waste of time now. Right. Not that these things are not impressive. They are, but I just go, okay. You know,
• 2:15:51
  you're dedicating your life to basically deceiving people in some way. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I'm being a bit too moralistic about it, and it's just a good bit of fun. So,
• 2:16:01
  Unknown: yeah, it's true. Well, what was that word that Paul made up?
• 2:16:05
  Unknown: You... He didn't. Usufruct.
• 2:16:07
  Usufruct?
• 2:16:08
  Yeah. U s... It is a real word. You need to look it up. U s u f r u c t. Usufruct.
• 2:16:15
  It's where you're used. Is that... That's what he said. He said, use use a fruct. Okay. They left out a couple of letters. That sounds like the fruit of usury.
• 2:16:25
  Usury. Well,
• 2:16:27
  look. Look. Let's look it up now. Let's see what it says. We might as well.
• 2:16:32
  Grab your dictionaries. Okay. So let me... Here's what AI says anyway, whichever one it is from Google's.
• 2:16:37
  It says this, a usufruct is
• 2:16:40
  a legal right, oh I hate rights, is a legal right that allows a person
• 2:16:46
  the usufructuary,
• 2:16:48
  good grief, sorry about this everybody,
• 2:16:51
  that allows a person,
• 2:16:53
  I won't mind being a use you fructuri. At least I could get to... I couldn't say it after a few beers because people don't drink anymore. Allows a person to temporarily
• 2:17:01
  use
• 2:17:03
  and enjoy
• 2:17:04
  another person's property
• 2:17:06
  and keep any profits or income it generates without actually owning the property. Oh. So that's it. That's usually It's a mortgage.
• 2:17:17
  Well, it'd be a bit like you go on holiday, you say I can live in the house, but I rent it out and trouser all the money without telling you. That'd be something. So I'm using your stuff. I don't own it, but for a period of time,
• 2:17:30
  while you're out of town, I get to do that, and I might generate some money off it or something like that. A legal right that allows a person to tempt... I... In that case, I would have been the and
• 2:17:41
  you could have called me that.
• 2:17:42
  Unknown: Okay. Right. Yeah. And that's
• 2:17:45
  gonna become a dirty word really soon.
• 2:17:48
  I can sense that really quick. But it sounds like the user
• 2:17:52
  user is English for somebody who's... Who uses your stuff. Okay? Fruit
• 2:17:57
  of Deutsch, our Anglo Saxon,
• 2:17:59
  is fruit. So the fruit of usury
• 2:18:02
  or the fruit of the user.
• 2:18:04
  But that... Yeah. So legal, how is that legal? Where
• 2:18:08
  Unknown: is that legal? Well, I I don't know. I suppose it's... Well, it might be legal if you and I agreed upon it in a contract, and you said, don't mind if we're tally.
• 2:18:17
  I mean, it says these core company... Users, USUS,
• 2:18:20
  the right to use. This part is the power to occupy, live in, or utilize the property.
• 2:18:26
  Then the next bit is fructus.
• 2:18:28
  Okay. Nice word, isn't it? Fructus, the right to profit.
• 2:18:31
  This is the power to reap and keep the fruits or earnings, I fruit, I guess, fructus. Yeah. Because you use the word fructify, don't you? When something ripens.
• 2:18:41
  Right. Or
• 2:18:42
  earnings
• 2:18:43
  from the property such as growing crops, collecting rent from tenants, or running a business.
• 2:18:49
  Mhmm. And then the last bit, abusus,
• 2:18:52
  a b u s u s, abusus.
• 2:18:56
  Yeah. The in
• 2:18:59
  this case, my example me sitting in your house doing whatever I'm doing with it. The cannot
• 2:19:04
  sell,
• 2:19:05
  destroy, damage, or permanently alter the core substance
• 2:19:09
  of the property.
• 2:19:10
  Those powers belong strictly to the owner known as the bear owner. So in this case, b a r e, not that you're a bear. So you'd have been the bear owner, you go away,
• 2:19:20
  I come into your house, I rent it out to Eric,
• 2:19:23
  because he, you know, it's just a great place.
• 2:19:26
  Eric... If Eric wrecks the place, I'm liable to return it back to you in the same condition. I can't actually sort of damage it or use the property up. Did you want to rent the property, Eric? Is that what you want to do? Yeah. Why not? Because it sounds a bit of a laugh, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:19:39
  Unknown: Yeah. Is
• 2:19:40
  Eric paying rent?
• 2:19:43
  Unknown: To me, would. You wouldn't know anything about it. I'm profiting off it. Yeah. I'm the use of luxury. But I would actually pay fox bobs
• 2:19:50
  Unknown: as a currency. So there we go. And fox bobs are worth very little. They're worth they're worth fox bob all, aren't they, I think, at the moment. But... Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:20:02
  Unknown: Fiat. Fiat money. Right? That's what we've got. That's the problem. By the way But that's what Paul was talking about with regard to our situation is that
• 2:20:12
  Unknown: they...
• 2:20:14
  The system is you... They are the use eufructuris.
• 2:20:17
  Oh, god. We've used an interesting word here. Yeah. Use eufructuris.
• 2:20:20
  Uh-huh. Yeah. They are basically making use of our stuff to make profit off it, and we don't even know about it, because they've switched the roles. Instead of you being the beneficiary of your trust, you've been appointed a trustee, and you didn't even know it. Oh, it's just Well, it's it's how the usurer helps himself to your stuff.
• 2:20:38
  Unknown: Yep.
• 2:20:39
  Right? Yeah. I still sense the word usury in there. They just drop the r y.
• 2:20:45
  Unknown: Yeah. I do. Well, yeah, it's just... Yeah. Usury's just... We don't like it, Randy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We don't like it. We don't go for it. Yeah. But everybody does it, even though it's illegal. According
• 2:20:55
  Unknown: to the creator's law, it's illegal.
• 2:20:57
  Right?
• 2:20:58
  So except when you lend money to a stranger.
• 2:21:03
  And somebody explained
• 2:21:05
  why that is, why you can lend that usury to a non Israelite, so we being Israelites here. Okay? Yeah. Mhmm. Okay.
• 2:21:13
  And the the idea
• 2:21:16
  that this
• 2:21:18
  scholar
• 2:21:19
  came up with was
• 2:21:21
  that it protects the Israelite against fraud,
• 2:21:25
  just in case the non Israelite does commit fraud.
• 2:21:29
  So he's allowed to...
• 2:21:31
  That's usually. But Right. But now the now the Jews, since they're not Israelites,
• 2:21:37
  they they just do it anyway.
• 2:21:40
  Right?
• 2:21:41
  They just charge interest all the time.
• 2:21:44
  Unknown: Mhmm. All the time. Well, it's hidden in so many other parts now. There are other sort of fees that we don't perceive, like so called inflation, which exists There you go. And all these other things. Yeah. The whole system is just a deception of, oh, we've given you some purchasing power in the form of a government grant. Right. But what they fail to tell you is that that's already a cut. They're gonna use it to make you buy... Pay for your electricity bill or whatever. I was working out my bills the other day. I don't know what it's like for all you lot out there in jolly old England.
• 2:22:11
  But mine... My basic bills,
• 2:22:14
  are
• 2:22:15
  council tax, which is the biggest one. I've... Actually, it might not be. It's pretty close to it. There's council tax. There's my power bill, which is gas and electricity. There's my water bill, which is £900 a year for water. It's a lot of money. Right? For water. Yeah. Wow.
• 2:22:30
  And my Internet bill,
• 2:22:32
  that little lock comes in at $5 a year before I've even got out of bed. Wow. It's outrageous. It's nuts. Yeah.
• 2:22:39
  But is yours similar, Eric, or or am I just being... It is. And what's happened is that they fitted a
• 2:22:47
  Unknown: new meter,
• 2:22:49
  one of these smart meters on the cold water thing without me knowing because my meter is actually over the the guy had you known. Right? Mhmm. That's right. And
• 2:23:00
  my bill has now gone up a 151
• 2:23:02
  percent.
• 2:23:03
  Wow.
• 2:23:04
  For water. Them for water. And
• 2:23:07
  you contact
• 2:23:08
  them, and you go over to some center in in India,
• 2:23:12
  You find yourself a word what they're talking about. Oh.
• 2:23:16
  I was on the I was on the phone for forty six minutes,
• 2:23:19
  and half that time, I was on hold because they say, hold on. And they're saying, well, that's perfect. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with the meter. So why has it gone up a 151%?
• 2:23:29
  And I'm having to pay double my... For my water.
• 2:23:32
  I was double. Right. And the chap said, well, don't worry about it. Yeah. Just pay it. Oh, good. Just pay it and don't worry. Yeah. You. Thank you. It's been so useful to call you up. You've eased my burden. Yeah. And then he said, call a plumber. Yeah. I said, why? Oh, yeah. So he said... I said, you've told me I haven't got a leak, so why should I call a plumber? Yeah.
• 2:23:54
  So he said You gotta... I said, the problem is over to you. And I just could not get common sense out of this character. And and every... I could only get about two or three words
• 2:24:06
  in six.
• 2:24:10
  There like, it's unbelievable.
• 2:24:12
  Unknown: Yeah. That was terrible. That was awkward.
• 2:24:14
  Unknown: Yes. Yeah.
• 2:24:16
  Unknown: Well, you know, you realize, Eric, that today,
• 2:24:20
  Great Britain is a colony of India.
• 2:24:23
  It is. Oh. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You can't do anything without consulting India.
• 2:24:29
  Unknown: Well, it's for... It's it's to make the biz... It's to make the water companies more cost effective to keep our bills lower. That's what they tell us. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:24:39
  Yeah. Keeps the bills lower. But they keep going up, we say. And who owns the water systems? It's...
• 2:24:45
  Yeah. I think... You know what? I think it's one of those... I think these household bills are best... Fall into the category of low hanging fruit for people like us to
• 2:24:55
  look at somewhere leveraging this stuff because
• 2:24:58
  there's huge numbers of people. I mean, I don't know what it's like for people that are... That have got families
• 2:25:03
  that are on low incomes. And, well, I do know what it's like. I mean, it's just it's just it's rough. It's really rough. And everybody, the tragic thing is everybody understandably has to cover their own backside,
• 2:25:15
  and this means you lose the capacity to care for others. And, of course, the the community spirit have been broken down. It's like out of sight, of mind, but it's going on. It's absolutely going on. There's some horrific things taking places. You know, and then you don't talk about it because we can't do anything about it. Well, we've gotta talk about it because we've gotta find a way of doing something about it. Seems to me. Yeah. Well, look look at it from another point of view. What is the difference between
• 2:25:37
  Unknown: the Cray twins protection racket and council tax? There is no difference at all. Because You got a better service from the Cray twins, didn't you? You certainly did. Yes. At least if you...
• 2:25:47
  Well, they're both exact the same. You're forced to pay
• 2:25:52
  something that's... And if you don't pay, the only difference is the Kray twins would have come along and, shall we say, rearranged your body physically.
• 2:26:00
  If you don't pay the council, they come along and psychologically
• 2:26:03
  destroy you.
• 2:26:05
  Unknown: Hold on. Hold on. Who are the Kray twins?
• 2:26:08
  Unknown: Well, they're dead, Eli, now. So that's the first thing. But they were a couple of gangland mobster brothers from the East End Of London Okay. In the nineteen sixties. And they became infamous,
• 2:26:21
  which is more famous than being famous actually. Right. And they hung around with all the glitterati
• 2:26:27
  of the sixties, the early part of the sixties, until one of them went to prison for shooting someone in the head in a pub,
• 2:26:32
  and stuff like that. They were
• 2:26:35
  rough
• 2:26:36
  Yeah. People. They were horrible people. One of them
• 2:26:40
  Unknown: was a rear end rear end shunting engine, wasn't he? I think they both were. Were they? Seriously.
• 2:26:45
  Unknown: Yeah, in the end.
• 2:26:47
  Unknown: So it your version of Al Capone.
• 2:26:49
  Twin... Twin... Twin Capone. Very much so.
• 2:26:53
  Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay.
• 2:26:56
  Unknown: And they they were really nasty pieces of work.
• 2:26:59
  And they also
• 2:27:01
  were involved with politicians.
• 2:27:03
  Bob Boothby was
• 2:27:05
  a politician
• 2:27:06
  in government in nineteen sixties,
• 2:27:10
  and he was ACDC.
• 2:27:13
  He he he he of Okay. Hung around with young boys,
• 2:27:17
  and the Cray twins supplied the young boys to him. And there's also pictures of the Cray twins next to a chap called Harry Webb.
• 2:27:26
  And we all know who... Do you know who Harry Webb is?
• 2:27:30
  Unknown: No. I don't think he translated into America. He became a pop star,
• 2:27:33
  Eli, of some fame in the sixties called Cliff Richard.
• 2:27:37
  Unknown: Oh, okay. No. Yeah. There's a picture of him next to the Cray twins.
• 2:27:42
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:27:42
  Unknown: And there's Yeah. Well, who's who's your next to him. Who's your current enabler?
• 2:27:47
  Unknown: Oh, wait. Oh, he's dead too. But he... I think he is. He enabled Prince William
• 2:27:53
  and a bunch of other people's Mountbatten.
• 2:27:56
  Oh, yeah. Mountbatten too. No. The guy who was the enabler.
• 2:27:59
  Unknown: He he ran Jimmy Savile. Jimmy Savile. That's right. There you go. And did you know the prime minister,
• 2:28:07
  his name is actually
• 2:28:09
  what the... One of the royals was advised to do
• 2:28:12
  when he said that he had pictures
• 2:28:14
  for... On... Of him on Epstein Island. Oh, wow. Yes. Andy Burnham.
• 2:28:20
  Andy Burnham. Andy Burnham. Can I see it? You see that? I know, Eric.
• 2:28:28
  Unknown: Speed... Anyway, shifting the topic a little bit.
• 2:28:34
  Anybody that... I was thinking I started this thing... Where are we now? Hundred and sixty? Three years ago. We're in October. It's three years ago of September. I started doing this thing during the COVID. It's
• 2:28:44
  three years.
• 2:28:45
  Yeah. It's not as long as you. You've been here longer than that, aren't you? Old Billy Nomads. Oh,
• 2:28:50
  Unknown: bloody hell. About
• 2:28:52
  Unknown: almost twenty, I think. About six... Fifteen, sixteen years. I feel like a baby now. I was involved, but I just didn't have my own show. Was so shy Yeah. As you know, as you can tell.
• 2:29:02
  But one of the things I started talking about back then was the French Revolution.
• 2:29:07
  Some people might remember this, which is a... Obviously, it was an event, but it's also a book of the same name by Nesta Webster, who you might recall, Eli. She wrote some brilliant stuff.
• 2:29:19
  Absolutely brilliant.
• 2:29:20
  A great asset of of this movement, although she was writing in the early nineteen hundreds.
• 2:29:26
  Wrote some tremendous stuff. Anyway, I'm just about at the end, everybody. I thought I'd let you know. I'm don't read that slowly. It's just that I read several things at once, and sometimes a certain book like for a year, I don't pick it up, but it's always sat there with a bookmark in it. Anyway, I've been finishing it off.
• 2:29:41
  I've got about 50 pages left to go. It's about 500 pages long, and
• 2:29:45
  the last section is called the Reign of Terror.
• 2:29:49
  I'm assuming you guys are familiar with that phrase with regards to the French Revolution, the Reign of Terror. Yes. You ever heard of it before? Yes. Yep. And
• 2:29:59
  it really is a reign of terror, and it's got some amazing insights into how
• 2:30:05
  intelligent people descend down to the level of the most psychotic vicious savages.
• 2:30:12
  Here to cheer you up at the end of the show everybody, by the way, but it's...
• 2:30:16
  No, it's absolutely astonishing. I mean, most of the people that were involved in initiating
• 2:30:21
  it,
• 2:30:21
  they all meet the mister guillotine anyway. Right. They're just... All of them.
• 2:30:27
  They all go sort of rabid, it gets worse, and there was a really chilling bit. So
• 2:30:32
  Robespierre that everybody may well have heard of,
• 2:30:35
  he's just power mad. I mean, it goes without saying. Right? But what they want to do is that their view of the French society, completely untrue by the way, this was all concocted and just built up through pressure and psychological
• 2:30:48
  bullying over six or seven years. They started this thing in sort of like the mid seventeen eighties,
• 2:30:54
  and then it hits its peak by 1792.
• 2:30:58
  That's the year of the reign of terror, 1793.
• 2:31:00
  I think it is this kind of period.
• 2:31:03
  What they decided was that the whole of their society was riddled with human gangrene.
• 2:31:09
  It's what they call it, seriously.
• 2:31:11
  And that certain limbs had to be cut off like the bourgeoisie.
• 2:31:14
  The bourgeoisie had to be all killed off. Then the intelligentsia
• 2:31:18
  had to be killed off. There's one guy called Hebert who hates clever people,
• 2:31:23
  thinks that clever people are... Or Marat. Well, Marat. You are smarter than him. Yeah. Yeah. Marat was Swiss, an absolute demon. Unbelievably.
• 2:31:33
  I mean, some of these people, you go, holy. What's going on with these people? Cruel bastard.
• 2:31:38
  Just vicious.
• 2:31:40
  I mean, of a a degree that you just it's it's heartbreaking. I mean, I'm reading this. Oh, like in Epstein class.
• 2:31:47
  Mhmm. Yep. And you know if you read this stuff or had it told to you when you were a teenager,
• 2:31:53
  the details sort of fly into one ear and out the other. You might pick up the facts, but you don't get the emotional impact really of what you're reading. At this age, having been around a bit, I really do. It hits me harder than it ever has done at any other point in life because you're able to visualize quite clearly what these scenes were actually like.
• 2:32:09
  They're off the charts. I mean, there's a guy called
• 2:32:13
  Jean Baptiste Carrier,
• 2:32:15
  probably the worst of the lot,
• 2:32:17
  and he couldn't find
• 2:32:20
  ways to kill people fast enough. Uh-huh. So they had the guillotine, but that wasn't quick enough. So he came up with fuselards. He's basically on the spot firing squads all over the place. This wasn't quick enough.
• 2:32:31
  The people in Brittany, I think, suffered the most. I forgot the name of the town.
• 2:32:36
  He's... He took to just drowning people. Oh, okay.
• 2:32:41
  So his animal... Yep.
• 2:32:43
  Yeah. And then he would make couples
• 2:32:45
  strip naked, bind them together with ropes at the wrist and just throw them in the river.
• 2:32:50
  I did 6,000 in a week and you're going, what is... Why has this gone mad? And after they got rid of these first target things,
• 2:32:59
  look, I don't know whether this is a forewarning of stuff or not.
• 2:33:03
  Oh, I'm sorry. I just heard it. But but they then go, alright. We got rid of the intelligentsia. We've got rid of the bourgeois. Who's next? Oh, yeah. The peasants.
• 2:33:13
  Why? Because they thought certain members of the bourgeois and the intelligentsia
• 2:33:18
  had changed their looks and appearances, which they had, and had gone and embedded themselves within the life of the peasants. So they just started arbitrarily to kill the very people that they were supposed to be helping. You see this, and what I'm... It's this group
• 2:33:33
  psychopathy. I don't know how to describe.
• 2:33:35
  Unbelievably tragic.
• 2:33:37
  It's it's so chilling.
• 2:33:39
  Unknown: I find... And I've always said this. I mean, the Russian one is very bad, and in scale, it dwarfs the French one. But in terms of psych... Polk did the same as as the French Revolution. He actually held taxi drivers or anybody that held a pencil. Someone had a pencil behind their ear. They get killed because they thought they were intelligent.
• 2:33:57
  Seriously. Yeah.
• 2:33:58
  Unknown: I mean, it's just Social justice is called today.
• 2:34:01
  Unknown: Well, this is... Don't you think it's the case that when people are pursuing this
• 2:34:05
  complete idiot goal called equality?
• 2:34:08
  Right. This is what happens. They want to equalize everybody. The only way you can equalize everybody is kill everyone. You go, you're all equally dead now. You go, well, okay. You've finally done it. Yeah. Fantastic. Unfortunately,
• 2:34:19
  there's nothing left. So I I don't know why I'm... It's just... If you ever wanna read it, and I do recommend it, you ought to get... I mean, it's a bit... It's 500 pages, and it's detailed, but she writes brilliantly.
• 2:34:30
  Her sources are fantastic,
• 2:34:32
  and you get a real insight. That's what I'm kind of interested in. An insight how their communication just descends into the pit,
• 2:34:41
  and where their focus goes, and these are not stupid people, and this comes back to Eric. What's the name of that guy
• 2:34:48
  who did all the thing over the COVID No.
• 2:34:51
  In modern times. Chris Witty?
• 2:34:53
  No. The other... There's another psychologist, the Belgian guy who came up with this group Oh. Thing. A mass formation theory. Yeah. Him. I I can never remember his name. Mass form... Hang on a minute. Well, we know what we're Yeah. Talking
• 2:35:07
  And it's the same thing as with the... That German guy whose name just jumped out of my head as well. The one that was killed, father something or other at the end of World War two. He thought he said it's not that they're not intelligent.
• 2:35:17
  Unknown: I can't remember. I I know who you mean. Adolf Hitler.
• 2:35:21
  No. Not him. He did rules of stupidity, didn't he? Bon Bonhoeffer.
• 2:35:26
  Unknown: Bonhoeffer.
• 2:35:27
  Brilliant, Eric. Fantastic. Thank you for pointing us out of our agony with that one. Okay. Yeah. Bonhoeffer just talks about intelligent people sinking down into the pit. And, you know, not to overly big it up, but I think we're living under some kind of veneer, because earlier on we were talking, you know, we mentioned here didn't we? We're governed by these manic children
• 2:35:46
  and it's it's
• 2:35:48
  really scary. Yeah,
• 2:35:50
  very graduate concerning. From college,
• 2:35:52
  Unknown: kind of like the French Revolution. These people all graduated
• 2:35:56
  Yeah. From from... What what kind of what kind of education did these liberals got
• 2:36:01
  that... You know? Well, actually, none. They they actually hated the bourgeoisie, which was the middle class
• 2:36:07
  Yeah. As much as they hated the, you know, the royalty.
• 2:36:10
  Mhmm. And, you know, so why would you hate the people...
• 2:36:14
  I can understand hating royalty, but why would you hate the people who make stuff and who, you know, provide food? You
• 2:36:23
  Unknown: know what the core of the problem is? The core of the problem is these lefties,
• 2:36:28
  they are impractical people. Oh, yeah. They're trying to tell practical people what to do. That's right. That's why nothing works and everything falls to bits. Yeah. They also It's tough for you. Yeah. Hate countryside.
• 2:36:40
  They hate beauty.
• 2:36:41
  They live in crappy cities where the most awful types of places Yeah. And they're brought up a kind of upper class
• 2:36:50
  most of the time. Yeah. But they try and turn
• 2:36:54
  countryside
• 2:36:55
  into
• 2:36:56
  the ghetto. City that that... Ghetto. That's right. And that's why they always go for the farmers. They destroy farmers.
• 2:37:03
  Great. Totally impractical.
• 2:37:05
  They have a taxation system, which you shouldn't have, which is unbelievably
• 2:37:10
  complicated.
• 2:37:11
  Unknown: They can't fix the tractor.
• 2:37:13
  Unknown: That's right. They... They're totally, utterly impractical.
• 2:37:16
  Unknown: Just like today's liberals. Exactly. How do we... Can we... Can they be saved? Because they are obviously...
• 2:37:23
  They're diseased, aren't they? They've acquired a disease.
• 2:37:26
  Unknown: Yeah. And it's so deep rooted. You can't even... I think they're born that way. I think they're psychopaths.
• 2:37:31
  And when you when you scan... I mean, I've been doing... I'm having a bit of a go on
• 2:37:36
  telegraph
• 2:37:37
  and a chat
• 2:37:38
  Yeah. On this. And the fact of the matter is is that doctor here, who's a Canadian
• 2:37:44
  doctor, who's a leading authority
• 2:37:46
  on psychopaths,
• 2:37:48
  I believe, allegedly, he's come very close to admitting
• 2:37:52
  they are a different subspecies of human.
• 2:37:55
  And
• 2:37:57
  I'm not I'm not... I'm quite serious on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mean, they are not quite... Because when you scan their brain,
• 2:38:03
  it's different to ours. They... Their their frontal lobe is blank
• 2:38:07
  where we... And our frontal lobe is where you get empathy from. Right. And... And intelligence.
• 2:38:13
  Unknown: Real intelligence.... Political
• 2:38:15
  Unknown: ponerology
• 2:38:16
  that actually looks at them, and they they know how to identify each other.
• 2:38:22
  And they've got this strange thing, and they get into government. And my view is we should have an educated
• 2:38:27
  approach to this,
• 2:38:29
  not start a witch hunt,
• 2:38:31
  don't punish them, but literally put them on an island that's got all the infrastructure where they can live their life out. Yeah. And let them figure it out. Different
• 2:38:39
  to us.
• 2:38:41
  Unknown: Punishing them is like punishing the crocodiles. Wait a minute. Okay, you guys. They they already did this.
• 2:38:47
  Well, what was that show where they compare men and women?
• 2:38:52
  And so they they put a bunch of men on a
• 2:38:55
  deserted island
• 2:38:56
  Yeah. And told them, go go make a go make a life. And they put a bunch of women on a neighborly... A neighbor island and said, go make a life.
• 2:39:05
  And then the men started hacking
• 2:39:07
  away and making boats and building huts. And the women just standing around
• 2:39:13
  complaining about stuff.
• 2:39:15
  Unknown: That's right. They're impractical. Most women are impractical.
• 2:39:19
  Most women are... They're maternal.
• 2:39:22
  They're not like men. This idea that we're both the same is an insult to both sexes.
• 2:39:27
  Unknown: I respect... Yes. It is. Right. We can't blame them. They're not impractical when it comes to
• 2:39:32
  running households, which of course has been demeaned in popular culture and shouldn't be because a well run house is a joy. It really is a fantastic thing. And it's because you're unconscious about it, you don't realize it until it's gone. I know you ought to come and see my house. I'm going bloody hell. Yeah. It's outrageous.
• 2:39:51
  It is. It's absolutely... I've never lived in such a disorganized space. I mean, my day is really lively and my head's organized. Yeah. Outside of that It's terrifying. Yeah. I'm going, yeah, I'm going, if anybody viewed this and judged my character by the state of our lounge, they go Yeah. This guy this guy's not sounding Well, heard about your agree.
• 2:40:11
  I heard about your back. Well, yeah, let's talk about doors. Eric, Eli's got a door problem. He's joined the club. Yeah. Yeah. That is very embarrassing. Have you seen... Have you had counseling for it?
• 2:40:22
  Unknown: I mean, you know, mean, the trouble is one minute is open, one minute is closed. That is the problem. And the counselor, you know, I think we
• 2:40:30
  it's quite normal, you know. There's nothing to worry about. Right.
• 2:40:35
  Unknown: Yeah. I had to move in a real hurry, and both my front door and back door
• 2:40:41
  are worthless.
• 2:40:42
  They're absolutely worthless. They're hollow core doors, which means they're Same. Inside They
• 2:40:48
  have to have a solid core door for an external door.
• 2:40:52
  And locks don't work.
• 2:40:54
  They're falling off the hinges.
• 2:40:56
  And just like Paul's house.
• 2:40:58
  Yeah.
• 2:40:59
  Unknown: It is.
• 2:41:01
  It's just like mine. Oh god.
• 2:41:03
  Unknown: I've just revealed everything. Today I cleaned out the refrigerator
• 2:41:06
  so I could look at it without
• 2:41:09
  retching.
• 2:41:10
  Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So it's...
• 2:41:14
  Getting organized is... Here... Here's the difference. The people who organize things, which means they have to do work. Okay? Mhmm. Work takes a lot of effort and planning
• 2:41:25
  and structure
• 2:41:27
  and cooperation between people.
• 2:41:30
  Communism
• 2:41:31
  or
• 2:41:32
  socialism
• 2:41:33
  or social justice
• 2:41:35
  don't require any kind of physical organization. It just means you have to have... Agree on a certain idea
• 2:41:42
  Mhmm. That communism works.
• 2:41:44
  Yeah. Long as you agree on that idea, that gives you the right to kill people who do work. Yeah. And don't agree with your idea. Absolutely.
• 2:41:52
  Don't agree with you, so therefore they are what guillotine bait?
• 2:41:57
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean you wouldn't... Yeah. Yeah. Monsieur guillotine, by the way, was a Jesuit, just to let you know. Oh really? Yeah.
• 2:42:04
  So
• 2:42:06
  but it's interesting you say that because
• 2:42:09
  these guys just hopping back into that one, and then we can go back to the doors because the doors Yeah. Fascinating, aren't they? Yes. Having door these door issues. But the the reason why it that none of them expected
• 2:42:21
  to die, they expected to be sitting at the top table, and for a while they did. They did sit at the top table. The problem was is that on their path up, they had said, we're all in this together.
• 2:42:34
  Right? And we're all gonna basically, it's gonna be equal and all this crap. Right. Of course, you know, and the ones that are promoting equality, of course, are lying. That's not what they mean. You're
• 2:42:45
  gonna be equalized, but we're gonna be above you organizing the equalization,
• 2:42:49
  and and, you know, we just happen to get... So these guys were having the finest wines and brand. It's described they were in the most sumptuous places that they'd taken off of all the royals and all the aristocracy.
• 2:43:00
  Exactly. They were hanging around, lording it over, and the word basically got out to the peasants who went, what?
• 2:43:06
  And they were absolutely outraged, and that... No. You know those scenes of them jeering like mad when people get guillotined?
• 2:43:13
  Right. That was why there was one called Hebert,
• 2:43:15
  I think it was called, and there was a whole thing. The the Hebertists
• 2:43:19
  or something. He was a journalist or something who had driven them all crazy and got them all up to it, and then it turned out that he was on the take. Yeah. And when he got guillotine, there were 28,000
• 2:43:29
  people turned up, and they were overjoyed that his head got taken off. Yeah. They were absolutely thrilled about it. And
• 2:43:35
  you you kind of... These forces that are released in these crowds are...
• 2:43:40
  They're really seriously big. There's like 28,000
• 2:43:43
  atom bombs going off in a crowd. You're going Right. Holy moly.
• 2:43:48
  You know, they kind of deserved it, but they they... What... Oh, the other thing, you know, this whole population thing, like, there is too many of us. They had that crap going on. Right? It's just unbelievable.
• 2:43:59
  They said, oh, we've got how many people do you think they had in France at the time? Something like 25,000,000.
• 2:44:04
  This is far too many. We only need 2,000,000.
• 2:44:07
  And that's what they were trying to do. That's right. They were trying to kill 23,000,000
• 2:44:11
  Frenchmen. They're going, what what... How did they... And then after a while, some of went, I think we've gone a bit too far. The whole section with the with destroying the churches as well,
• 2:44:20
  you know, and what I'm kind of ambivalent about because, you know, they were on the take. There's no two ways about it. Right? This is not to say that there weren't good priests. I know that too. Some of these things are horrific,
• 2:44:30
  but the fact is that they laid the foundations of the abuse that they were about to receive from the peasants.
• 2:44:36
  And one of the things that Webster talks about, this comes over to the reformation
• 2:44:40
  over here.
• 2:44:41
  Everybody has rightly pointed out that Henry the eighth of course stole all the stuff from the Catholic churches. Right. He did. Yeah. Why did they have it though?
• 2:44:51
  Why did they have all that stuff in the first place? They stole it from the English.
• 2:44:55
  Of course they did. Yeah. Nobody nobody links that. It's terrible what he did. Of course, it's terrible what he did, but what was terrible as well is that they ripped all this gold and silver off from him. They were sitting on a bloody fortune. And that's why they went after the church in France for the same reason. They were sitting on masses of purchasing power, and they go, well, we're bloody having that. And, of course But, hey. You know what? Take heads off. But what's the lesson? After all of that anger and rage and judgmentalism
• 2:45:22
  Unknown: by the left, and that's what... These people were communist. Most people don't realize the French Revolution was a communist revolution.
• 2:45:30
  Yep. It was totalitarian.
• 2:45:32
  Yes, it was. And so the totalitarians
• 2:45:35
  decided who should live and who should die.
• 2:45:38
  Right? And we're about we're about there.
• 2:45:42
  Unknown: That's why I'm saying it's relevant. Absolutely, we are.
• 2:45:45
  It's done through the... Is.
• 2:45:49
  Oh god. We're after. 6,500,000,000.
• 2:45:52
  Unknown: Yes. Right?
• 2:45:53
  I only live half a billion.
• 2:45:56
  That's
• 2:45:58
  where he's coming from, folks. It is.
• 2:46:00
  Unknown: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:46:02
  Yeah, I mean, he's killed most of us by infecting our computers with Windows operating systems, which is just a pain in the ass, frankly. Our bodies with vaccinations.
• 2:46:10
  Unknown: Remember before it was called Event
• 2:46:13
  two zero one, it was called?
• 2:46:15
  Event two zero one. Just There's been just dropped the nine. It was really event twenty nineteen because that's when it was staged. And they were getting ready to kill us with their vaccinations. Right? And so... And then Bill Bill Gates went around saying, oh, there's too many people. With a good proper use of vaccination, we can reduce the earth's population to 500,000,000.
• 2:46:34
  Yeah. And how quickly?
• 2:46:36
  How quickly, Bill?
• 2:46:38
  All right, well, I guess that works even better than a guillotine.
• 2:46:42
  Unknown: The
• 2:46:45
  whole thing is there's a complete absence,
• 2:46:48
  obviously, self evidently,
• 2:46:50
  of care
• 2:46:52
  for other people. There just isn't any. Yeah? Humanity. There's none. It is scienceism
• 2:46:59
  Unknown: gone mad.
• 2:47:00
  Yeah. It is. We gotta figure it out, so we we need to eliminate people who don't want us to figure it out. Right?
• 2:47:07
  Unknown: That's a good one. Yeah. We we do have to do that. Yeah. We do have to that. It's insanity. It's total insanity posturing
• 2:47:16
  Unknown: as well.
• 2:47:18
  It's theory.
• 2:47:19
  It's not theology,
• 2:47:20
  but it is theology too because it is really based on satanism. But here here, a perfect example,
• 2:47:26
  I don't know. I think... What was the university? It's called Evergreen University,
• 2:47:31
  either in Oregon or Washington State
• 2:47:34
  Mhmm. Where they were teaching this
• 2:47:37
  egalitarianism
• 2:47:39
  up to wazoo.
• 2:47:40
  And Yeah. It was that the
• 2:47:42
  Blacks and the Latinos and all the nonwhites
• 2:47:46
  decided that the white people are the problem.
• 2:47:49
  Yeah. Okay?
• 2:47:51
  Fortunately, they did not have a guillotine.
• 2:47:54
  Right? Okay. Phew. They all decided that the white people are the problem, but the people who taught them this egalitarian
• 2:48:01
  nonsense
• 2:48:02
  were white people.
• 2:48:05
  Unknown: Infected white people. Yeah. Yes. There's a certain type. There is. They
• 2:48:10
  are the... I do view them as the number... It's through them that the entire gates of hell have got opened. Yes. That's that's what's happening. Egalitarianism
• 2:48:20
  Unknown: going wild. And there was one scene
• 2:48:23
  where the white teacher... There's a there's a mob scene
• 2:48:27
  in the hallway. I don't know. I forget how many classrooms.
• 2:48:31
  But the white teachers of the classrooms came out, and one of them was a Jewish man with a white
• 2:48:39
  wife. And they're they're still they're they're still doing the talk shoe circuit. In in in any case, the white teachers came out and looked at all these non white faces,
• 2:48:49
  and these non white faces pointed at them and said, you're the problem.
• 2:48:54
  Right? Oh,
• 2:48:56
  well, our lessons have taken effect, have they not?
• 2:49:00
  Okay. And so they started running for their lives.
• 2:49:03
  And I don't know. That that that shows you how a theory can go absolutely wild. Egalitarianism
• 2:49:09
  can go absolutely wild. There's no... I'm a firm believer there's no such thing as equality.
• 2:49:14
  Unknown: It doesn't exist, Eli. It's a condition never ever yet witnessed in the whole of non creation ever. No. It can't.
• 2:49:22
  Yeah. It just cannot exist. It's useful in mathematics.
• 2:49:26
  Yeah. It's useful. Right.
• 2:49:27
  But that's that's... What's that called? That's an abstract language to describe quantities. Yes. Fine. That's good. But when you actually see the real quantities, I've got 50 apples here and 50 apples over there, you go, well, they're not equal. Well, for a start off, they're in a different location.
• 2:49:43
  Right. So that's that
• 2:49:45
  Unknown: done. You can't have it. It's bizarre. Yeah. And it's been tried so many times and it's been shown never to work that when you have a totalitarian government, there's no equality.
• 2:49:56
  Unknown: Right? I know. But they say, don't they? They say, we just haven't done it right yet. How many more times do you you're
• 2:50:03
  never gonna do it right because you keep equalizing yourselves and you're all as stupid as one another. You can't work out that it's not working whilst you destroy everything. Yeah. Yeah
• 2:50:13
  Unknown: yeah yeah it's madness.
• 2:50:14
  It's absolute madness.
• 2:50:16
  Paul
• 2:50:17
  Bunsen was right. It's egotism.
• 2:50:19
  Mhmm. It's egotism. Thinking you know better than everybody else even though you know very little. And that's your typical liberal.
• 2:50:26
  There no next Yeah. It is. Yeah. In fact, who was that guy, the Canadian guy who was going around bashing feminism?
• 2:50:36
  Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson. Yeah. Mhmm. And so he was debating a British woman on British television,
• 2:50:43
  and he he was talking about how, you know, your philosophy is skewed. You don't know what you're talking about. But then he he has... He uses psychological
• 2:50:52
  language, you know, which is Yes, he does. Which is not good. Okay? Use plain language. Right? Yeah. And and and you could see the confusion in her face
• 2:51:02
  when he started telling telling her, your philosophy doesn't work. What do mean it doesn't work? I'm living it. Well, the the first thing you have to understand
• 2:51:10
  is all these liberal women, feminists,
• 2:51:12
  most of them are feminists,
• 2:51:14
  they didn't earn
• 2:51:16
  their position.
• 2:51:18
  They were elevated into their position by liberalism, by the college, because the businesses accept
• 2:51:24
  college grads. Right? And all these college grads have become communist
• 2:51:29
  via feminism. Okay? They've become communists via feminism.
• 2:51:33
  They haven't lifted a finger their whole lives. They have never had a screwdriver in their hand. They don't know how to jack a tire, car up to change a tire. They don't know any of this stuff.
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  And they think they're gonna rule the world?
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  Unknown: Yeah they do, that's the tragic thing, they do think that and we can't knock that idea out of their head because if they don't know where their head is, it
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  appears to be up their backside.
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  Can't reach it, they're unreachable. My
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  Unknown: teacher told me that we're going to rule the world with communism. They don't call it communism, but they call it social justice. Right? Because capitalism is evil and men are evil. And when we, feminists,
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  create communism and pure equality...
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  Now wait a minute.
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  Pure equality, you said men are evil.
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  Why aren't women evil too?
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  Pure equality means they're both equally
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  Unknown: evil. Yes.
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  Unknown: Right? It does. Yeah. Use some logic, will you? No, there's no logic there. It's blatant,
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  what do you call it, theory
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  turned into theology,
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  Unknown: right? It is. Yeah. Absolutely. It's become a religion for them. Yes, it's Which which
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  they don't want you to examine
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  in a nice calm logical way because it falls apart. It's made out of sand. There's there's nothing there. It's a ridiculous. It's basically like a massive tantrum.
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  Yeah. Right. An extended huge
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  centuries long tantrum.
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  We want it different. We'll make it different. Oh, no. Don't wanna work for it. We just wanna tell you to give up the stuff that you've got because you're the problem, because you've made things work and we can't is at the base of it. Well And we go... And and normally you go, well, that's okay. We can work together. No. We can't work with you because you're all fascists or something. Yeah. Right. Right. Oh, okay.
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  Unknown: Well, at least fascists
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  did something. They they created stuff. Right? Yeah. They did. Yeah. Yeah. And the the proofing is in the pudding because the... In fact, the slogan
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  of the working class in the Soviet Union, when when they referred to the upper crust, you know, the the class, the totalitarian classes,
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  they pretend to lead and we pretend to work.
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  It's all pretentious.
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  Unknown: Yeah. It's all pretentious. I mean, it's why Russia was just a basket case Oh, yeah. Right up until, you know, the wall came down. And even that is to be sus... There's a lot of suspicion about that wall coming down because those international communists then flooded the West, a bit like the Frankfurt's got legged it over to your neck of the woods. Right? Yep. And just carried it on by other means, and there's nothing new with that. And the Jesuits did that, you know, in that book rulers of evil, they basically
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  used subterfuge,
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  know,
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  to effectively distort the thinking patterns of the people that they're with. It's It is a virus, there's lots of ways about Well
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  Unknown: it's just like communism
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  simply renamed itself,
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  now it's called the New World Order.
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  Unknown: Yeah,
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  okay. It's still here, it didn't go away. Commies is best. Commies is still the best way to call them. That's right. It's the best word. It's old people. Oh, they're not commies. No, they're commies.
• 2:54:37
  And all the all the sort of foulness, at least it's still got some cash, it's got some weight in people's minds. Know that communism is a bad thing. And all these commie fame types are having
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  Unknown: dreams about using the guillotine
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  on the rest the Yes.
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  Unknown: They are. They're rapid. I don't... How do you... Mean, look. We... I I get... It's fun to describe the problem, and we're gonna keep on doing Yes. But what do you think this... What paths could we take for solutions? I mean, they've been building these mega prisons over here, so I think that they're, you know... Yeah. But how do we get them to actually go in there? This is for you. No. We built it to lock up all you fascists. No. It's actually for you. Well done. Thanks. It's the first useful... Of course, they didn't physically build it. They actually had to use our blokes to actually build these things who are sort of like doing
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  these things, but it's
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  Unknown: Yeah. Having had a prison ministry for, like, twenty, thirty years,
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  I visited a lot of these prisons.
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  Whenever I visited a prisoner in one of these prisons,
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  I couldn't wait to get out.
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  Are you gonna let me out? Are you gonna let me out? Please let me out. Yeah. Okay. Well, we don't have any evidence that you should be here, so we're gonna let you out. Yeah. But nevertheless, I I got in trouble with a feminist
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  in one of these You did? Prison Yeah. In Louisiana.
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  And I had a overnight drive,
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  you know,
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  from midnight to 8AM
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  you know, so I was really tired. My eyes were bloodshot,
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  and I didn't have a dress shirt.
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  Just came in with my white t shirt.
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  So the lady stops me at from going any further.
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  I went through three or four clunkity clunk gates. Right?
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  So I was getting ready to see the prisoner.
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  I said, oh, you can't go in like that. I said, what do you mean I can't go?
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  Oh, you have to have a shirt with buttons.
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  Oh,
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  okay.
• 2:56:37
  Well, it just so happens I bought a couple of dress shirts, short sleeve dress shirts,
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  a couple days before. Said, okay. I've I've got one in my car.
• 2:56:48
  Let me go out and get one. Okay. So said, okay. So I went out, get my button down shirt.
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  And okay, so I sarcastically,
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  when I confronted her again, sarcastically said, okay, Mr. Shirt Inspector, or Ms. Shirt Inspector,
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  and
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  everybody around, because, you know, this is not, you know, there's other people around, there was a gasp.
• 2:57:12
  What did he say?
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  This shirt... Oh, I'm... I I apologize.
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  I'm I'm tired. My eyes are bloodshot, and I just drove eight hours overnight to get here. Please let me see the prisoner.
• 2:57:26
  Unknown: Next time you go, Eli, you need to go dressed like you are in that painting for today's show. Go dress well.
• 2:57:32
  Amen. That'd be cool. We're we're out of time. That's a fast hour, wasn't it? That quick. The fastest hour of my life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. Stuff. We're talking about Yeah. Yeah. It's awful, this show. Awful. Terrible stuff, really.
• 2:57:45
  But But but but useful.
• 2:57:47
  Yeah. Knowledge of knowledge of this stuff is useful. At least we've got some sense of what's coming up.
• 2:57:52
  Amen. Okay, guys. Yeah. Fantastic. Well, I'll have you I'll have you back again in a couple of weeks. You'll have everything sorted out and your fridge is done. So Yeah. We'll talk about doors more. We're gonna see who gets their doors fixed first. Yeah. I got a couple of solid core doors Absolutely. Thank you everyone for your patience at the beginning of tonight's show, which was a bit of a cock up, but there we go. I'll look into that again. I have no idea why. We'll be back again same time next week.
• 2:58:14
  I think I've got somebody interesting on next week as well. It's been great tonight. Thank you, Eli. Thank you, Paul, for the first part of the show. We'll see you next week. Again, following Eric and the other Paul as well. Okay. Thanks, man. You, guys. Bye. Goodbye. Bye for now. Bye bye.
• 2:58:39
  Unknown: Bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.