Latest / The Breakfast Club / I Said What I Said ( Joe Biden Announces He Has Prostate Cancer and Diddy Trial Updates)
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Geist.
- 0:02Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
- 0:04Speaker 2: and everybody. You know, if you don't lie about that, right,
- 0:07Speaker 2: Lauren came, Hey, y'all, what's up.
- 0:11Speaker 1: It's Lauren L. Rosa and this is the latest with
- 0:14Speaker 1: Lauren L. Rosa.
- 0:16Speaker 2: This is your daily dig on everything pop culture, entertainment news,
- 0:20Speaker 2: in the conversations that really shake the room. I am
- 0:23Speaker 2: your host with the most as always, and today here
- 0:26Speaker 2: with me Telor Gang Dude. We actually over the weekend
- 0:31Speaker 2: went to Atlantic City. It was tell Or's birthday. Jess
- 0:35Speaker 2: Hilarious had a comedy show just as funny as hell,
- 0:38Speaker 2: Like my first Was that your first time seeing her
- 0:41Speaker 2: on stage?
- 0:41Speaker 3: No, that's my second.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Okay, that was my first time seeing Jess on stage.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Of course, you know, I work with her here at
- 0:47Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. But seeing her on stage and like
- 0:51Speaker 2: in her element and in her stand up bag, I
- 0:53Speaker 2: was just like wow, like I it blew me away,
- 0:57Speaker 2: Like I expected her to be good. But I feel
- 1:00Speaker 2: like being on stage and doing stand up is such
- 1:03Speaker 2: a hard thing to do. But doing it and like
- 1:06Speaker 2: being able to show that you're a star while doing it,
- 1:09Speaker 2: only few people can do that. And when I was
- 1:11Speaker 2: watching Jess on stage, I'm like, Yo, here's it, Like
- 1:15Speaker 2: this is this is her superstar element right here? Like
- 1:17Speaker 2: this this right here, Nigga, Like this is.
- 1:19Speaker 1: It for her? Like this is amazing.
- 1:21Speaker 2: She was so funny and it just was like I
- 1:24Speaker 2: feel like she carried the story throughout from top to bottom.
- 1:26Speaker 2: I felt like I was watching a movie. It was right,
- 1:29Speaker 2: like all the jokes connected with the joke before. It
- 1:32Speaker 2: had like the overarching thing. She just did her thing, y'all.
- 1:34Speaker 2: She did her things, so shout out to Jess. My
- 1:36Speaker 2: mom wanted to this special, get her a special, right.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I told her that to this morning. I'm like, Yo,
- 1:41Speaker 2: why haven't you shot a special yet? Like what we
- 1:44Speaker 2: just what I just watched in Atlantic City needs to
- 1:47Speaker 2: be a special, she says. She's, you know, just trying
- 1:49Speaker 2: to figure it out. But my mom was excited. It
- 1:51Speaker 2: was that was one of her mother's day gifts. She
- 1:53Speaker 2: kept asking she wanted to go see Jess on stage
- 1:56Speaker 2: in person, and then she.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Was so excited to meet you.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And she loves the fact that you're about to have
- 2:00Speaker 2: a baby.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Yes, my god. Now she keeps talking to me about her.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Baby, like you trying to give Larry one, give me one,
- 2:08Speaker 2: like you just want to randomly walk around with my
- 2:09Speaker 2: baby for nine months and give it to me.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Look at Jess.
- 2:17Speaker 2: But I'm feeling amazing. This weekend was good. I got
- 2:20Speaker 2: to sleep a lot. Court drained me last week. How
- 2:22Speaker 2: you feel.
- 2:23Speaker 3: I'm tired, my legs hurt. I'm getting me massage later.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Oh wore because we did a lot of walking in
- 2:29Speaker 1: Atlantic City, a lot of walk that whole weekend.
- 2:32Speaker 3: I just feel like it's been up on my feet
- 2:34Speaker 3: a lot.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how to sit down.
- 2:37Speaker 2: We had a good time though, you know. I love
- 2:39Speaker 2: your family, your family that you're building. I love Patrick
- 2:43Speaker 2: big Patrick not to Patrick and her belly, and then
- 2:46Speaker 2: my family got to meet you guys as well too.
- 2:47Speaker 2: We just always feels like family with y'alls. Thank y'all
- 2:50Speaker 2: for accepting me all my craziness. Yes, but getting right
- 2:54Speaker 2: on into the latest. Man, Oh this is this is
- 2:58Speaker 2: a really tough one for me. Recent news broke that
- 3:02Speaker 2: Joe Biden, former President Joe Biden, is actually has been
- 3:06Speaker 2: diagnosed with an aggressive state of prostate cancer. I received
- 3:10Speaker 2: the statement from the personal office of former President Joe Biden,
- 3:14Speaker 2: and this is how it read. Last week, President Joe
- 3:16Speaker 2: Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate
- 3:19Speaker 2: nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms. On Friday, he was
- 3:22Speaker 2: diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of
- 3:26Speaker 2: nine grade group of five, with metastasists to the bone,
- 3:30Speaker 2: which means it spread to his bones. While this represents
- 3:33Speaker 2: a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears
- 3:36Speaker 2: to be hormone sensitive, which allows for effective treatment. The
- 3:39Speaker 2: President and his family are reviewing treatment options with physicians.
- 3:43Speaker 2: When I tell you, guys, it triggered me so much
- 3:46Speaker 2: when I read that, because my mom is a stage
- 3:50Speaker 2: four cancer survivor a lung and brain and I remember
- 3:54Speaker 2: when at the time when we found out. I've talked
- 3:56Speaker 2: about it here on the podcast with you Taylor. When
- 3:58Speaker 2: we found out, we have been going back and forth
- 4:00Speaker 2: to the hospitals, like probably we were. I was living
- 4:03Speaker 2: in the hospital at that point up here in New
- 4:05Speaker 2: York because my mom wanted to come to specialists up
- 4:07Speaker 2: here and they had overlooked it for a year, and
- 4:10Speaker 2: I just didn't understand how you could overlook something like that,
- 4:14Speaker 2: and cancer, it just moves so fast, and it just
- 4:17Speaker 2: does all of these things, and so when I heard that,
- 4:20Speaker 2: the first thing I thought of is like, how could
- 4:22Speaker 2: this happen? Like he's the former president, he's a recent
- 4:26Speaker 2: former president, he's an older man. I'm like, what's happening
- 4:29Speaker 2: during his appointments? Like, are you guys not testing him?
- 4:32Speaker 1: Why not? If so?
- 4:34Speaker 2: He's also really big because his son, when his sons
- 4:37Speaker 2: passed away with cancer. Him and his wife Joe Biden,
- 4:40Speaker 2: like in Delaware, they lead so and just across the world,
- 4:43Speaker 2: you know, the nation, they lead so much conversations around
- 4:47Speaker 2: like cancer research and funding and just you know, education
- 4:50Speaker 2: around it and so many things.
- 4:52Speaker 1: I'm like, this is unfair, Like how did this happen
- 4:55Speaker 1: to him?
- 4:56Speaker 2: I don't get it in and it doesn't mean it's
- 4:58Speaker 2: the end because you get cancer, but it's just I
- 5:01Speaker 2: don't know. I just all weekend I've been asking how
- 5:05Speaker 2: this makes no sense?
- 5:06Speaker 1: How could this have happened?
- 5:07Speaker 3: Think about it like he's always working, Like how does
- 5:10Speaker 3: he go to the doctors?
- 5:12Speaker 2: I don't know how that works with the president, but
- 5:14Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's pretty often because I don't necessarily. But
- 5:18Speaker 2: also two there's a thing of is like even if
- 5:20Speaker 2: he was going to the doctors, you know, there are cancers, cancer,
- 5:24Speaker 2: cancer reacts.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Each type of.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Cancer is different, each level of cancer is different, and
- 5:29Speaker 2: cancer shows up differently for different people.
- 5:32Speaker 1: So like I know people who their cancer was it.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Was aggressive from the start of them trying to fight it,
- 5:39Speaker 2: And I googled it because I just wanted to make
- 5:42Speaker 2: sure what prostate cancer that that you know, was something
- 5:44Speaker 2: that could happen.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And when I.
- 5:45Speaker 2: Googled his his type of cancer, his level of cancer
- 5:49Speaker 2: that they mentioned, I did see online that it can
- 5:52Speaker 2: be aggressive from the offset, from the outset, I'm sorry,
- 5:56Speaker 2: and can be aggressive from the outset, which means it
- 5:58Speaker 2: can enter your body in that manner. But the fact
- 6:02Speaker 2: that they're saying that you know he will be able
- 6:03Speaker 2: to effectively management that means that they do believe that
- 6:05Speaker 2: he's going to be responsive to treatments is a really
- 6:08Speaker 2: good thing. I just, man, I was so confused when
- 6:10Speaker 2: I saw this, Like I had so many questions, But
- 6:12Speaker 2: there was a lot of outpouring of love for him,
- 6:14Speaker 2: which I was happy to see because I know a
- 6:16Speaker 2: lot of times people like to make things so politics
- 6:19Speaker 2: and not about the person, and he is a person
- 6:22Speaker 2: with a wife and a family and grandkids and you
- 6:24Speaker 2: know you don't want I don't wish bad on anybody, yea,
- 6:28Speaker 2: and you shouldn't do it over politics or political beliefs.
- 6:32Speaker 2: But Kamala Harris posted for a former VP, Kamala Harris
- 6:36Speaker 2: posted how her and her husband Doug were sad and
- 6:40Speaker 2: to learn that the president's prostate cancer diagnosis. They're keeping
- 6:43Speaker 2: him in his prayers and they're in his entire family
- 6:46Speaker 2: and the prayers at the time. But she said, you know,
- 6:48Speaker 2: Joe is a fighter, and I know he will face
- 6:50Speaker 2: this challenge with the same strength and resilience and optimism
- 6:54Speaker 2: that has always defined his life and his leadership. We
- 6:57Speaker 2: are hopeful for a full and speedy recovery. Even Donald
- 7:01Speaker 2: Trump was humane in this, which I was gonna be
- 7:04Speaker 2: pissed off if he was not, he said. Melanie and
- 7:07Speaker 2: I are sadden to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis.
- 7:10Speaker 2: We extend our warmants and best wishes to Jill in
- 7:12Speaker 2: the family and wish Joe a fast and speedy recovery.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I had tweeted, you know, just talking about how messed
- 7:18Speaker 2: up cancer is, because it's kind of like a nightmare.
- 7:20Speaker 1: It's like you don't know when it's gonna come.
- 7:22Speaker 2: It gets me like even talking about it right now,
- 7:26Speaker 2: right like, and that's how I felt when I saw this.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what, no, Like this is not fair.
- 7:31Speaker 2: He's older, Like why does he have to go through
- 7:33Speaker 2: the treatments and be tired and all of those things.
- 7:36Speaker 2: But I just wish him well and I know right
- 7:38Speaker 2: now it's important for him to be covered by a
- 7:40Speaker 2: lot of love, surrounded by a lot of love by family,
- 7:43Speaker 2: and to stay hopeful. But in other news, cause you know,
- 7:48Speaker 2: love to take you out of court, lot to take
- 7:50Speaker 2: you out of court. We are headed back on over
- 7:53Speaker 2: to the courtroom with Diddy this week. This is technically
- 7:57Speaker 2: week three of the trial if you're in clouding the
- 8:00Speaker 2: jury selection. But now we are moving on to our
- 8:03Speaker 2: second witness. So victim Jane, who is the other witness
- 8:07Speaker 2: that a lot of people were thinking we're going to,
- 8:12Speaker 2: We're going to it was going to be an explosive testimony,
- 8:15Speaker 2: has now took the stand. We now know that victim
- 8:18Speaker 2: Jane is Dawn Richard or Dawn Richard's formerly of Dannity
- 8:22Speaker 2: Kane and Dirty Money, which were bands that did he created.
- 8:26Speaker 2: She worked with Diddy from two thousand and nine to
- 8:28Speaker 2: a little after twenty eleven. But I actually I got
- 8:31Speaker 2: to meet her when I did an event a few
- 8:33Speaker 2: months ago for Black Radiance and Cross Colors, the clothing brand,
- 8:37Speaker 2: and she performed and we met there and you know,
- 8:40Speaker 2: exchanged phone information and have talked a bit. So I
- 8:43Speaker 2: was always wondering how it was going to be because
- 8:46Speaker 2: I knew she would probably end up in court potentially.
- 8:48Speaker 2: She came in after Cassie finished her last Dad testimony.
- 8:52Speaker 2: And Cassie finished that testimony, she finished a strong I
- 8:55Speaker 2: think Diddy's team, I think they messed up a lot.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I think last week the prosecution definitely took you know,
- 9:00Speaker 2: there were a lot of things that they were trying
- 9:02Speaker 2: to prove or disprove when it came to Cassie's credibility
- 9:04Speaker 2: about you know, when she was actually sexually assaulted and
- 9:08Speaker 2: some of the stories she told.
- 9:10Speaker 1: And I think that they didn't understand that.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Number one, a lot of people are going to always
- 9:15Speaker 2: revert back to all of the physical violence that we
- 9:18Speaker 2: saw her have to go through and endure and have
- 9:22Speaker 2: the conversations about Stockholm syndrome and her making these decisions
- 9:25Speaker 2: because she was in love with a man and you know,
- 9:29Speaker 2: and that's common for a person in her seat. And
- 9:31Speaker 2: I actually did NBC New York on Friday to recap
- 9:36Speaker 2: my day, and one of the questions that I was asked,
- 9:39Speaker 2: or one of the things that we talked about, was like,
- 9:40Speaker 2: you know, there was reporters in the courtroom who really
- 9:43Speaker 2: couldn't understand how even in talking about him on the stand,
- 9:46Speaker 2: Cassie said things like I still don't hate him. She
- 9:49Speaker 2: said things like, you know, he was charming, this man
- 9:51Speaker 2: was full of life, and she didn't seem.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Malicious on the stand whatsoever.
- 9:56Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I can understand that if you've
- 9:58Speaker 2: ever met him and it kind of experienced his personality,
- 10:02Speaker 2: you understand what drew her in. But then when you
- 10:04Speaker 2: see her go through all of that abuse, you understand
- 10:07Speaker 2: what you know, what I mean, like where her mind
- 10:09Speaker 2: and her thinking it would have been.
- 10:09Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie though.
- 10:11Speaker 2: The defense was really good at bringing those things to
- 10:15Speaker 2: the forefront and putting them in your mind and making
- 10:17Speaker 2: you have to have a conversation about what you believe
- 10:19Speaker 2: in what you don't believe.
- 10:20Speaker 1: But I don't think that it fared well for them
- 10:22Speaker 1: at all.
- 10:22Speaker 2: I do believe that the prosecution is you know, doing
- 10:25Speaker 2: a really good job right now, if even subtly about
- 10:28Speaker 2: making sure the jury doesn't remember, does not forget that
- 10:32Speaker 2: Diddy has been very viciously violent physically to one of
- 10:35Speaker 2: the main women in his life and a lot at
- 10:38Speaker 2: the time of a lot of this, who was involved
- 10:39Speaker 2: in a lot of this. So it's like, what else
- 10:42Speaker 2: is he capable of? And I think that that's the thing.
- 10:44Speaker 2: And now enters Don Richard and her testimony, and Yo,
- 10:49Speaker 2: she got understand Friday tell her they barely let my
- 10:51Speaker 2: home girls speak, right, Maybe not, I say, my homegirl,
- 10:54Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, Yo, they've been on me.
- 10:55Speaker 1: They're gonna be like Lauren is being biased.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Well, she got on the stand and she began telling
- 11:01Speaker 2: the story about an incident she claims that she saw
- 11:03Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine. And in two thousand and nine,
- 11:06Speaker 2: she basically said that she saw Diddy and Cassie get
- 11:08Speaker 2: into it physically because of food. I guess he wanted
- 11:11Speaker 2: food that wasn't finished, and you know, it was a
- 11:13Speaker 2: whole thing, and he Cassie over the head.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Allegedly Cassie fell in the fetal position.
- 11:18Speaker 2: The next day, he came in on some don't say
- 11:20Speaker 2: nothing about this, because people who say stuff about things
- 11:22Speaker 2: like this when it comes to me, allegedly he said,
- 11:24Speaker 2: they go missing.
- 11:25Speaker 1: So the prosecutors are like, oh, no, you're honor.
- 11:28Speaker 2: We need to be able to have her testified because
- 11:31Speaker 2: this shows like an environment of fear that he created
- 11:33Speaker 2: which made it easier for him to coerce and fear
- 11:36Speaker 2: force people to do stuff.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Diddy's team is like.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Nah, y'all not about to put every single person that
- 11:41Speaker 2: has had a physical, physically violent experience with Diddy on
- 11:46Speaker 2: this stand. We've admitted to him being physically violent, but
- 11:48Speaker 2: y'all not about to do that. It's not relevant. This
- 11:51Speaker 2: isn't a domestic violence case. The judge said, well, we're
- 11:54Speaker 2: gonna figure this out on Monday, and miss Richard will
- 11:56Speaker 2: see you on Monday.
- 11:58Speaker 1: So she's coming.
- 12:00Speaker 2: She's coming back this week to testify. And I think
- 12:05Speaker 2: they're gonna have to probably limit and be very I
- 12:08Speaker 2: mean they do this anyway, not limit, but they're just
- 12:10Speaker 2: gonna have to be on our p's and q's about
- 12:11Speaker 2: what they object on and not object on. But I think,
- 12:16Speaker 2: to be honest, I'm not for sure if I think
- 12:18Speaker 2: that Dawn's testimony is gonna be, you know, one of
- 12:20Speaker 2: the ones that brings it home. I feel like James Cruz,
- 12:23Speaker 2: who was a former manager of Cassie and a long term, a.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Long time business person with Ditty.
- 12:31Speaker 2: He worked with Ditty for a very very long time,
- 12:33Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna be a strong witness because
- 12:35Speaker 2: he has no ties in this. He's not suing anything. Civilly,
- 12:39Speaker 2: he wasn't in a relationship with Puff. Yes, he worked
- 12:41Speaker 2: with him for a bit, but he has no ties
- 12:45Speaker 2: in this. It doesn't serve him either way. To be
- 12:47Speaker 2: on that stand.
- 12:48Speaker 1: People can argue that.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Oh, Dawn has a civil lawsuit, so she's trying to
- 12:51Speaker 2: be awarded money, so that's why she's here.
- 12:53Speaker 1: People can argue that about Cassie.
- 12:55Speaker 2: The defense is focusing on that so much like they're
- 12:58Speaker 2: trying to dismiss all of the violence and all the
- 13:00Speaker 2: things that we've seen with Diddy and focus in on vengeance,
- 13:04Speaker 2: money and jealousy. But it's like on his side, Yeah,
- 13:08Speaker 2: But I feel like I get what they're doing, but
- 13:10Speaker 2: I don't think it's playing well for them because the
- 13:12Speaker 2: violence that we saw was so much like seeing photos
- 13:16Speaker 2: of Cassie and watching that video, like He's not on
- 13:20Speaker 2: trial for domesic violence. But I mean, if you're physically
- 13:24Speaker 2: violent like that, of course people are going to be scared, right,
- 13:27Speaker 2: And that's what people are leaning into, not people, and
- 13:30Speaker 2: that's what the prosecution is trying to lean into. And
- 13:33Speaker 2: going into this week, I'm going to be interested to
- 13:34Speaker 2: see how Diddy's defense team kind of blocks those things
- 13:39Speaker 2: without downplaying what happened.
- 13:41Speaker 1: And what we saw.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Yeah, and Aubrey, well, I was gonna say, I was
- 13:45Speaker 2: gonna ask you about that, Aubrey, Yeah, because.
- 13:48Speaker 1: People were wondering if Aubrey was going to going on
- 13:50Speaker 1: the whole thing for a few years with him.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Yes, and people were saying she was vindicated when all
- 13:56Speaker 2: this news came out, But she had posted a photo
- 13:58Speaker 2: saying she was coming to New York and then and
- 14:00Speaker 2: she got here to New York. It actually ended up
- 14:02Speaker 2: right here in the iHeart Building doing tj Amy's podcast,
- 14:05Speaker 2: and she talked about the fact that she was not testifying.
- 14:08Speaker 2: She was reached out to buy the prosecutors by the Feds.
- 14:13Speaker 1: They did interview.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Her, have a conversation with her, but they decided not
- 14:17Speaker 2: to use her, and we don't know why, and I
- 14:19Speaker 2: don't think that we ever will, because for them it's
- 14:21Speaker 2: a strategy thing. But if she had been picked to
- 14:24Speaker 2: no way, she would have been posting like New York,
- 14:26Speaker 2: what's up?
- 14:27Speaker 1: I'm here? Yeah, there's no way.
- 14:29Speaker 2: I like, these things are so discreet, like when you
- 14:33Speaker 2: are becoming a witness of the prosecutors and the government, like,
- 14:36Speaker 2: it is very very discreet.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So I ain't no way she about to be running around.
- 14:40Speaker 2: And honestly, I think if right, if I'm prosecutors, and
- 14:43Speaker 2: this is just my opinion, if I'm prosecutors and I'm
- 14:46Speaker 2: gathering my case, I would go with because Dawn Richard
- 14:50Speaker 2: and Aubrial Day represent very similar times in the story
- 14:56Speaker 2: because of the making the band and all that stuff. Right,
- 14:58Speaker 2: they both have two different experiences, but it's differ timelines.
- 15:01Speaker 2: I think if you're leaning into Cassie so much because
- 15:04Speaker 2: Cassie is, uh, you know, the person that we've seen
- 15:07Speaker 2: be physically abused so much by Diddy and you and
- 15:10Speaker 2: you're a prosecutor, and you want to prove that because
- 15:13Speaker 2: of this physical violence and you know, all these things,
- 15:17Speaker 2: he's able to make people do what he wants them
- 15:19Speaker 2: to do without any rebuttal or without pushing back because
- 15:22Speaker 2: they're scared of his threats because they know that they're
- 15:24Speaker 2: not empty. I would lean into and I'm choosing Dawn
- 15:29Speaker 2: to get on the stand from that time period because
- 15:31Speaker 2: Dawn is a leeging she saw things happened to Cassie,
- 15:35Speaker 2: and Diddy's attorneys argue, well, Cassie herself didn't even get
- 15:38Speaker 2: on the stand and talk about that, so how can
- 15:40Speaker 2: we infer how she felt by that moment?
- 15:43Speaker 1: How do we even know it's true? He said in
- 15:45Speaker 1: the courtroom, we're going to move the set it it's
- 15:46Speaker 1: not even true.
- 15:47Speaker 2: But how are we going to determine how she felt
- 15:49Speaker 2: when she didn't even go on the stand and talk
- 15:50Speaker 2: about herself?
- 15:51Speaker 1: Did she talk about all the incidents that happened though, Tailor?
- 15:54Speaker 1: And that is why you are smart? No, there's no way.
- 15:58Speaker 1: And they were together tend.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Of legs, That's what I'm saying. So why are they
- 16:01Speaker 3: saying like because she didn't mention.
- 16:02Speaker 1: It, there's no way.
- 16:04Speaker 2: And I think that's why the judge is, you know,
- 16:06Speaker 2: willing to hear it out, because it's like, we know
- 16:09Speaker 2: that she was physically abused, we saw it. You can't
- 16:11Speaker 2: get around that. She doesn't have to detail every incident
- 16:15Speaker 2: because we know that it happened. Now, the conversation is,
- 16:18Speaker 2: because it happened, did all of this other stuff happen?
- 16:21Speaker 2: And let's focus on that, and let's not focus on
- 16:24Speaker 2: what did and didn't happen because we know that she
- 16:26Speaker 2: was physically abused. Now, to Diddy's defense team's point, do
- 16:31Speaker 2: we know if Cassie herself would have corroborated, like, yes,
- 16:35Speaker 2: this actually happened what Dawn said is true?
- 16:37Speaker 1: We can we can't infer that.
- 16:39Speaker 2: And that's the point that they're trying to make, is like,
- 16:41Speaker 2: we don't even know if this really happened because Cassie
- 16:43Speaker 2: yourself didn't say that it happened, because there's no police report,
- 16:45Speaker 2: there's no this, there's no that.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:46Speaker 2: But I don't think that that takes away I think
- 16:49Speaker 2: you leave that up for a jeury to decide. You
- 16:51Speaker 2: leave it up for a jury to decide. Okay, because
- 16:54Speaker 2: we know he is capable of this, was he capable
- 16:56Speaker 2: of that? And if he was, does it equal to
- 16:59Speaker 2: all of the counts and all of the things that
- 17:01Speaker 2: the government is alleging.
- 17:02Speaker 1: That's not for the attorneys to decide.
- 17:04Speaker 2: It's not fair because you're automatically going to cancel things
- 17:06Speaker 2: out because you're his attorney.
- 17:07Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
- 17:09Speaker 2: But I will say though, in the beginning of this,
- 17:12Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, plus legal team is on point,
- 17:14Speaker 2: and they are on point, and I felt like they
- 17:16Speaker 2: were doing really good at creating these like big gaps
- 17:19Speaker 2: and holes and stories.
- 17:21Speaker 1: But me and they leaned too much into the wrong things.
- 17:23Speaker 2: And I talked about it on my social media make
- 17:25Speaker 2: sure you follow me at Laura La Roza everywhere where
- 17:27Speaker 2: I do breakdowns. Right after I leave the court, I
- 17:29Speaker 2: did a video and I named three ways that I,
- 17:32Speaker 2: in my opinion, I believe Diddy's legal team messed up
- 17:36Speaker 2: during the final day of testimony for Cassie. In order
- 17:39Speaker 2: to explain a bit more now real quick, as we enclose,
- 17:43Speaker 2: take y'all to the streets, to the tweets.
- 17:48Speaker 1: Be outside, we outside, we outside, outside of tweets every
- 17:51Speaker 1: other page. One of the things that I've realized.
- 17:55Speaker 2: And Taylor, I know you'd be on social, but like
- 17:56Speaker 2: I know you'd be like kind of in your own
- 17:58Speaker 2: world on social, So I don't know if you've been
- 18:00Speaker 2: seeing it.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Like over the weekend, one of my videos were really
- 18:02Speaker 1: really viral.
- 18:03Speaker 2: It was the one where I was talking about Diddy's
- 18:05Speaker 2: legal team debunking a lot of Cassie's testimony on the stand,
- 18:10Speaker 2: and oh my god, it made people mad. People were like, oh,
- 18:14Speaker 2: she's not a girl's girl. And I'm not even gonna
- 18:16Speaker 2: read some of the comments because they was crazy on Twitter.
- 18:20Speaker 2: But all I did was tweet the video and the
- 18:22Speaker 2: caption of the video I think it said like week two,
- 18:24Speaker 2: I'm gonna find it. I think it said like week two,
- 18:27Speaker 2: Day two, here it goes. So I tweeted a video
- 18:30Speaker 2: and I said, full recap from Cassie's first day testifying
- 18:32Speaker 2: against Diddy is live, and a caption of the video
- 18:37Speaker 2: on YouTube that I linked to says Cassie's first day
- 18:39Speaker 2: across examination dot dot dot wasn't good and here's why
- 18:43Speaker 2: I said that. And I want you guys to go
- 18:45Speaker 2: take a listen to this video. So on my YouTube channel.
- 18:47Speaker 2: It's on my instagram as well. YouTube is lauraa Rosa TV.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Instagram is laurla Rosa. And me, I'm like, people just
- 18:55Speaker 2: hear what they want to hear, and that's okay. But
- 18:59Speaker 2: in the video, I'm having a conversation about how I
- 19:01Speaker 2: felt like Cassie as a star witness who we know
- 19:04Speaker 2: has been physically abused, who has she has things that
- 19:07Speaker 2: Diddy cannot deny because it's on camera, right. I just
- 19:10Speaker 2: felt like prosecutors should have protected her better and prepared
- 19:15Speaker 2: her better for certain things. There were text messages, you know,
- 19:19Speaker 2: she said that she didn't prosecutors.
- 19:21Speaker 1: There was like a lot of things like that. Yeah,
- 19:24Speaker 1: so they're saying, you're not because.
- 19:26Speaker 2: I should have instantly just I should instantly just take
- 19:28Speaker 2: up for Cassie. And I will say in this trial
- 19:31Speaker 2: and in anything that I report, I'm never going to
- 19:33Speaker 2: just did not like, not see everything first and make
- 19:38Speaker 2: a final decision at the end of each day out
- 19:40Speaker 2: of court. I have been saying, okay today, if I
- 19:42Speaker 2: was a juror, I would have voted this way or
- 19:44Speaker 2: voted that way. But it changes day to day. Some
- 19:46Speaker 2: days it leans in favor of you know, Diddy's legal
- 19:49Speaker 2: team for that day. Other days it's Cassie for that day.
- 19:51Speaker 2: But because I'm not like Diddy, lock Diddy up and
- 19:55Speaker 2: throw away the key. And I've been saying from the
- 19:58Speaker 2: beginning that he's going to jail. There's no way he
- 20:01Speaker 2: ain't going to jail. Now, I don't know if it's
- 20:03Speaker 2: going to be for the rest of his life, like
- 20:04Speaker 2: the prosecution once, but he's definitely going to jail.
- 20:06Speaker 1: He's guilty of some things.
- 20:08Speaker 2: They're upset about that in this video, especially after following
- 20:12Speaker 2: her last dad testimony. This video went so viral because
- 20:15Speaker 2: I'm being honest about how I felt watching her on
- 20:19Speaker 2: that stand, not able to answer certain things or not
- 20:22Speaker 2: being able to track certain things, and I don't be
- 20:24Speaker 2: and on Friday, I was so confused about how I felt.
- 20:27Speaker 2: I didn't even post a video because I didn't want
- 20:29Speaker 2: to misspeak on behalf of her you know, sexual assault
- 20:32Speaker 2: victims and things of that nature. I literally didn't even
- 20:35Speaker 2: post a video breaking down what happened in court because
- 20:37Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about that because they lean
- 20:39Speaker 2: so much on her last dad testimony about her getting
- 20:43Speaker 2: her dates wrong of the actual alleged rape in her home.
- 20:47Speaker 2: She had said August and then she said September. I
- 20:51Speaker 2: didn't even get into that. And the reason why I
- 20:53Speaker 2: didn't was because at first, I'm like, Okay, I get
- 20:55Speaker 2: what they're trying to do. They're trying to blow up
- 20:57Speaker 2: her credibility, and then I to like hours I did'tven
- 21:01Speaker 2: post until nothing until the next day. I had conversations
- 21:05Speaker 2: with people and you know, just sat there with myself
- 21:07Speaker 2: and I'm like, I thought about, like, yo, if that's
- 21:09Speaker 2: a traumatic experience, I don't care what you found and
- 21:11Speaker 2: where it's written down at.
- 21:12Speaker 1: You might get that wrong. Yeah, but my thought.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Process naturally, and I think that that's why a lot
- 21:18Speaker 2: of people are gravitating toward my content is because I'm
- 21:21Speaker 2: being honest about how I feel in the moment. Naturally,
- 21:23Speaker 2: my first thought was, wait, how could you not remember
- 21:25Speaker 2: that date? But I'm also not a survivor of sexual
- 21:27Speaker 2: assung I don't know what that's like. I don't know
- 21:30Speaker 2: how traumatic that is. I don't know what that dusty
- 21:31Speaker 2: your brain and your think through, you know what I'm saying.
- 21:34Speaker 2: So people are upset about that. How do you feel
- 21:36Speaker 2: do you feel like I have to be like no,
- 21:39Speaker 2: I think.
- 21:40Speaker 3: It's they're not there in the court with you, so
- 21:42Speaker 3: you're only going by your own judgment with it. And
- 21:45Speaker 3: then like, especially too, I'm seeing it on the media,
- 21:51Speaker 3: So you know, media could turn people's thoughts and persuade
- 21:57Speaker 3: them a whole other side too.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Yeah, but because you're getting the real deal of it.
- 22:02Speaker 3: It's more genuine and more factual personally.
- 22:06Speaker 2: As long as I do everything with great intention and
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, I, for instance, like Friday, I didn't jump
- 22:14Speaker 2: to this record a video because I'm like, I do
- 22:16Speaker 2: want to be respectful of people who have going through
- 22:18Speaker 2: you know, alleged sexual assault or domestic violence in general.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. So I'm being careful
- 22:26Speaker 2: with it. I'm being a responsible That's what the word
- 22:28Speaker 2: I'm looking for. As long as I keep my level
- 22:31Speaker 2: of responsibility intact, I'm okay, and I'm good with that,
- 22:35Speaker 2: and I'm good with the I'm good with where I am.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Period. So that has been another episode of the Latest
- 22:42Speaker 1: with Lauren L. Rosa.
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