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Hour 1: NBA players arrested. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: This is seven tor Boy. The Mark Simoon Show starts now.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's Friday. Tomorrow, the election begins. The mayor all
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Speaker 2: election begins tomorrow. Early voting starts tomorrow and goes for
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Speaker 2: ten days. The election itself is a week from Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: It's almost here. Andrew Cuomo has picked up steam. He
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Speaker 2: had a good debate performance, which is unusual. He usually
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Speaker 2: is pretty bad in those debates. But some people think
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Speaker 2: he got shot up with some of that Joe Biden injection.
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Speaker 2: You'll suddenly give him some energy, some speed, and so
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Speaker 2: he was pretty good in that debate. Curtis most just
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Speaker 2: about everybody agrees won the debate. On content, on issues,
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Speaker 2: Curtis the winner. But but Cuomo energetic for the first time,
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Speaker 2: actually able to talk smoothly for the first time. Not great,
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Speaker 2: not great. The mom Donni still a better debater, But
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Speaker 2: since then, Clomo's picked up a little steam. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if it's enough. It may be way too late.
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Speaker 2: Eric Adams has endorsed Cuomo. Why does Eric Adams suddenly
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Speaker 2: endorse Cuomo? He just five minutes ago was calling him literally,
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Speaker 2: called him a snake and a liar. Well, as you know,
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Speaker 2: there were billionaires, zillionaires, big big, big, big money donors,
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Speaker 2: trying to help Cuomo like crazy, trying to bribe Curtis
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Speaker 2: out of the race, trying to bribe Eric Adams out
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Speaker 2: of the race. A lot of money being offered to
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Speaker 2: a lot of people to help Cuomo. And suddenly Adams
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Speaker 2: is endorsing Cuomo. I don't know anything, you do the math,
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Speaker 2: But there was Eric Adams yesterday endorsing Cuomo.
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Speaker 3: Well, you criticize Andrew and you call them names, you
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Speaker 3: know what, and he called me names. But you know what,
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Speaker 3: now it was time to fight for the family. And
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Speaker 3: I'm a fight for the family with Andrew Cuomo as
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Speaker 3: the next mayor of the City of New York.
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Speaker 4: I'm fighting for the family of New York.
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm here today to endorse Andrew Cuomo to
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Speaker 3: be part of this fight.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right, yeah, I guess that's true. Cuomo
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Speaker 2: did call him names. And the fact that Adams kept
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Speaker 2: calling Cuomo names, called him a snake and a liar.
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Speaker 2: That's really not that unusual in politics. It happens all
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Speaker 2: the time. I remember George Bush calling Reagan all kinds
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Speaker 2: of names in the primary Voodoo Economics all that stuff,
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Speaker 2: and then when he got chosen as the running mate,
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Speaker 2: you forget about all that. It happens all the time,
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Speaker 2: all the time, even Trump. You know, when he was
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Speaker 2: in the primaries, he was calling Rubio names. Rubio called
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Speaker 2: him names. Same thing with just about everybody in the
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Speaker 2: in the primary. So you forget all that when it
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Speaker 2: comes time for a general election. But Cuomo, I don't
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Speaker 2: know he thinks. I don't know how much Eric Adams
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Speaker 2: helps him. He is voting. His numbers were single digits,
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Speaker 2: so there's not a lot of votes there. But they
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Speaker 2: stood there. They even hugged each other.
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Speaker 5: I don't want to thank Mayor Adams for his support,
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Speaker 5: but more than for his support, the mayor put his
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Speaker 5: own ambition aside because he cares more about New York City.
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Speaker 2: I see a little shot at Curtis there.
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Speaker 5: New Yorker's vote, I win. New Yorkers reject this socialism,
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Speaker 5: reject the vision. If New Yorkers vote, I win.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, he's back to the slow talking a little. Did
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Speaker 2: Curtis Curtis sliwa? We think Curtis would make the best mayor.
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Speaker 2: Curtis Sliwa? Did he want adams endorsement?
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Speaker 7: I know they're going to be celebrating today, But when
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Speaker 7: I look at them today, two corrupt birds of a
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Speaker 7: feather flock together, they deserve one another.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, he didn't want adams endorsement.
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Speaker 8: The rough birds of a feather flock to get I'm
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Speaker 8: not worried about that.
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Speaker 7: Anybody who was going to vote Ferrick Adams I have
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Speaker 7: to wonder with.
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Speaker 8: They've been these last four years because he is the
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Speaker 8: most corrupt man in the history of New York. So, hey,
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Speaker 8: Andrew Cuomo, you can have whatever votes he had. I
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Speaker 8: don't ever want Eric Adams.
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Speaker 2: Votes now again. Early voting starts tomorrow, so it's just
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Speaker 2: about over. But you know, there's still a week and
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Speaker 2: a half and they're trying to push Curtis out of
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Speaker 2: the race. Those same big money donors. They have this
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Speaker 2: fantasy that if Curtis dropped out, the votes would go
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Speaker 2: to Cuomo. Most people think that's ridiculous. Most of these
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Speaker 2: SLIWA voters hate Cuomo. Jimmy Faylor put it best. It
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Speaker 2: stead of like if the Yankees lose and the Red
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Speaker 2: Sox win and go on to the World Series, they
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Speaker 2: Yankee fans don't start rooting for the Red sox doesn't
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Speaker 2: just doesn't work that way. Well, get back to the
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Speaker 2: mayoral race. Lots to get to there. Leticia James, our sleezy,
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Speaker 2: dirty attorney General, is in Virginia right now. She's about
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Speaker 2: to go into court this morning. Looks like she will
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Speaker 2: be indicted for mortgage fraud if you look at the documents.
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Speaker 2: We assume the documents are all authentic, and if they are,
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Speaker 2: it looks like she's pretty guilty of mortgage fraud, deceiving
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Speaker 2: the bank. Now when you watch the reports, all you
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Speaker 2: hear about is Trump targeting, is targeting, is political enemies. Uh,
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Speaker 2: when Letitia James was inviting indicting here, you never heard
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Speaker 2: one person say she's targeting her political enemies. You never
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Speaker 2: heard the same anchors say that Governor Kathy Hogel jumps
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Speaker 2: in to defend Letitia James. You know, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of sleezy deals around the whocal world. That stadium deal,
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Speaker 2: that virus testing deal, a lot of people that was
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Speaker 2: really sleezy. She didn't need anybody looking into That might
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Speaker 2: be one reason she's being so supportive of the attorney general.
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Speaker 2: But here she was defending Letitia James. The whole bunch
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Speaker 2: of slimy Jerry Nadler type democrats on stage with her.
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Speaker 9: If they can do this to an attorney general of
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Speaker 9: a state like New York, heaven helped the.
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Speaker 10: Rest of us, because they can come after anyone.
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Speaker 2: Well, actually they do all the time. People do get
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Speaker 2: arrested and indicted for this exact same crime, this mortgage fraud.
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Speaker 2: And this is not like what Trump did. You know
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Speaker 2: what they accused Trump of doing overvaluing his apartment, which
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Speaker 2: first of all, he didn't. If you look now at
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Speaker 2: the comparable you know, that's what they do in real estate,
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Speaker 2: you look at the comparable apartments and what they sold for.
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Speaker 2: He was pretty much right with his evaluation. But if
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Speaker 2: you look at his case, the crime, there was no crime.
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Speaker 2: He couldn't possibly have committed a crime because he knew
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Speaker 2: the bank knew, everybody knew that whatever evaluation he put
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Speaker 2: would never be seen by the bank. They would never
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Speaker 2: look at it. It says right in the documents, we're
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Speaker 2: not to look at your numbers. We won't use your numbers.
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Speaker 2: It says right in his document, don't use this number,
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Speaker 2: do your own. But they all know the bank doesn't
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Speaker 2: look at your number when they want to give you
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Speaker 2: an eight hundred million dollar loan. They send a team
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Speaker 2: of appraisers, they'll come decide what the number is. They
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Speaker 2: never even look at your number. Never. Now, in the
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Speaker 2: case of Letitia James, this is a crime that it's
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Speaker 2: easy to commit because the bank only looks at your number.
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Speaker 2: And in the words, if you say it's going to
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Speaker 2: be my primary residence, they take your word for it.
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Speaker 2: They don't follow you around for a year. They take
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Speaker 2: your word for it. And the reason she said it
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Speaker 2: was her prime going to be our primary residence. She'd
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Speaker 2: get a much better mortgage rate, she'd get a much
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Speaker 2: better tax rate. She was saving a lot of men.
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Speaker 2: So it was clearly when you do something like this,
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Speaker 2: it's clearly to defraud the bank, and you're on your taxes.
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Speaker 2: So she is going to have a problem today in court.
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Speaker 2: Now they're trying to go after the prosecutor who what
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Speaker 2: I was I believe a Trump attorney at one point,
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Speaker 2: But that's not unusual. Many times somebody's president and their
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Speaker 2: attorney or their legal team people like that all get
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Speaker 2: appointed as US attorneys. And then they attack her by saying,
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Speaker 2: even Hockel did that, she's a US attorney who has
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Speaker 2: no experience as a prosecutor. Well, that's pretty common. That
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Speaker 2: happens a lot. Chris Christy's a good example. He had
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Speaker 2: absolutely no experience as a prosecutor. I don't think he'd
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Speaker 2: ever even been in a courtroom before. But he'd been
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Speaker 2: a huge fundraiser for George W. Bush, so they appointed
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Speaker 2: him US attorney. Now, there's a lot of US attorneys
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Speaker 2: who are very experienced prosecutors, but there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: them get that appointment and they've never been a prosecutor.
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Speaker 2: So it's not unusual at all. But this is the
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Speaker 2: double standard the media Democrats are famous for. Another good
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Speaker 2: example is this what they're calling BDS. BDS is the
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Speaker 2: new disease. It's ballroom derangement syndrome. Liberals media melting down
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Speaker 2: over the ballroom, the construction which has taken place fourteen times,
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Speaker 2: the same exact corruption construction with the with the wrecking
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Speaker 2: ball and the cranes at fourteen times it's been done
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Speaker 2: at the White House. You know what's interesting the ballroom.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen the pictures of it. It's spectacular. This
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Speaker 2: Versailles like ballroom is absolutely enormous, spectacular, ornate, luxurious, three
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Speaker 2: hundred million. When Obama did his construction, he tore out
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Speaker 2: the was it the tennis courts? He tore out the
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Speaker 2: tennis courts and built a basketball court. He spent three
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy six million, which is about four hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty million in today's dollars. So the media totally corrupt.
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Speaker 2: Not one reporter, anchor media writer New York Times, nobody
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Speaker 2: has started to ask why would a basketball court, which
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Speaker 2: is just a slab of concrete, why would a basketball
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Speaker 2: court cost fifty percent more than this ballroom? It should
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Speaker 2: cost one fiftieth of what the ballroom costs. Not only
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Speaker 2: did it cost off more than the ballroom, Obama built
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Speaker 2: it to the tax beyers. In this case, Trump is
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Speaker 2: having it, he's paying for it, and some donors are
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Speaker 2: paying for it. So total total corruption on the part
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Speaker 2: of the media, never asking anything they should be asking, Hey,
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Speaker 2: that NBA scandal. A lot of arrests, reputed mobsters, thirteen
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Speaker 2: reputed mobsters busted alongside NBA stars, sweeping historic gambling bust
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Speaker 2: and the NBA terrified of this. They're tangled up in it.
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Speaker 2: Players throwing games, all sorts of stuff. Four teams, four
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Speaker 2: mob families, millions and millions and millions of dollars. It's
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Speaker 2: hard to believe anybody would fall for this, though. They
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Speaker 2: get a couple of famous athletes to lead high rollers
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Speaker 2: into this poker game where everything is real. The card
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Speaker 2: shuffler is rigged, the deck is rigged, everything is rigged.
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Speaker 2: This is like a real, uh, Henry Hill, Jimmy Burke
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Speaker 2: kind of a card game. Now what was his name
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Speaker 2: of the movie, Jimmy Conway, Remember Goodfellas, Henry Hill, Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Conway with that poker game. So why would you if
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Speaker 2: you're a big NBA star and these guys, If you
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Speaker 2: look at these guys, they've each made like one hundred
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Speaker 2: and fifty million, two hundred million, you're multi, multi, multi millionaires.
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Speaker 2: Why would they get involved in something like this? Well,
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Speaker 2: it's usually two reasons. One, they're in debt to the mob,
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Speaker 2: the gambling debts, or something in debt somehow. But again,
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Speaker 2: if you're worth one hundred and fifty million, it's hard
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Speaker 2: to believe they're in debt to the mob. It could
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Speaker 2: be that could be it, or it could be they
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Speaker 2: were involved in something else, some other total sleazy, dirty,
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Speaker 2: bad behavior. Something they were doing that the mob knew
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Speaker 2: about or had something to do with it, and are
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Speaker 2: blackmailing him into this. It could be that too, who knows.
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Speaker 2: But the bust was pretty pretty big yesterday. Here's a
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Speaker 2: cash pttel FBI director on it.
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Speaker 10: It's not one hundreds of dollars. It's not thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 10: It's not tens of thousands of dollars. It's not even
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Speaker 10: millions of dollars. We're talking about tens of millions of
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Speaker 10: dollars in fraud and theft and robbery across a multi
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Speaker 10: year investigation.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, the sports books themselves are victims in this case.
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Speaker 12: They at themselves did not.
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Speaker 2: As far as our.
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Speaker 11: Investigation has concluded, they did not perpetrate anything unlawful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, now you gotta wonder a big high roller players,
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Speaker 2: what are they doing in this kind of game? You
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Speaker 2: know you can bet anywhere now? They got legal betting,
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Speaker 2: They got those betting sites. You can go to Las Vegas.
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Speaker 2: You don't need to go see Jimmy Conway and Henry
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Speaker 2: Hill here.
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Speaker 11: Once the game was underway, the defendants fleeced the victims
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Speaker 11: out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars per game.
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Speaker 11: The defendants used a variety of very sophisticated cheating technologies,
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Speaker 11: some of which were provided by other defendants in exchange
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Speaker 11: for a share of the profits from the scheme.
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Speaker 2: It does sound pretty good. This is going to be
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Speaker 2: one big movie one day.
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Speaker 11: Between December twenty twenty two and March twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 11: these defendants perpetrated a scheme to defraud by betting on
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Speaker 11: inside non public information about NBA athletes and teams. The
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Speaker 11: non public information included when specific players would be sitting
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Speaker 11: out future games or when they would pull themselves out
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Speaker 11: early for purported injuries or illnesses.
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Speaker 2: All right, but that's gone on before. We've seen that
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Speaker 2: through the years, and in the age of Twitter and
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Speaker 2: social media and TikTok and all that stuff, you'd think
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Speaker 2: that information would fly around a lot more than it
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Speaker 2: even does now.
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Speaker 13: Cash Betel, not only did we crack into the fraud
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Speaker 13: that these perpetrators committed on the grand stage the NBA,
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Speaker 13: but we also entered and executed a system of justice
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Speaker 13: against La Caasanoshra to include the Bonano, Gambino, Geneveci and
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Speaker 13: New Chase crime families.
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Speaker 2: La Coosa and Nostra. When is the last time you
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Speaker 2: heard that phrase.
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Speaker 10: This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation
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Speaker 10: that spanned the course of years. The FBI let a
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Speaker 10: coordinated takedown across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals
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Speaker 10: today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty amazing. It's quite a story. The only problem
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Speaker 2: I wish this would happen in a few weeks from now.
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Speaker 2: The only problem with this case, it's grabbing all the headlines.
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Speaker 2: It's covering up the Letitia James indictment. In fact, the
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Speaker 2: James indictment last night, if you were watching the news,
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Speaker 2: it was like fifteen minutes into the news because this
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Speaker 2: thing took up the whole first ten minutes. But sometime
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Speaker 2: this morning we'll hear that Tish James was indicted. But
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Speaker 2: this NBA thing looks like over thirty people so far
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Speaker 2: have been indicted. You'll see more names added to that.
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Speaker 2: This will grow and mushroom and anyway, Hey, we got
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Speaker 2: a lot to get to. Hey, we'll get to Johnny Carson.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Well, let's take some calls. Let's go to Frank
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Speaker 2: in Phoenix. Frank, how you doing?
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Speaker 14: Hey, Mark, how's it going?
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Speaker 4: Mark?
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Speaker 14: I have a question for Vincent.
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Speaker 6: The question is.
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Speaker 14: Scandal now with the mafia with this bedding, going back
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Speaker 14: as far as Luciano and what see, youse guys have
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Speaker 14: always had an ability to make millions of dollars. Listen,
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Speaker 14: do you think these guys have done the same kind
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Speaker 14: of business if they were straight and narrow?
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Speaker 2: Now, it's why would you tie Vincent to this kind
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Speaker 2: of stuff? Anyway, we'll see if he calls. Let's go
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Speaker 2: to Kathy North Carolina. Kathy, how you doing?
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Speaker 9: Oh I good morning, Good morning, Vincent. That's a good question.
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Speaker 9: By the way, there's so many important topics that I
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Speaker 9: want to talk about. Kiss because I heard your interview
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Speaker 9: with Scott Shannon, the Fabulous DJ, and he brought up
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Speaker 9: that Ace Frayley had died recently, which I didn't know
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Speaker 9: until I heard your show. That's so great you're getting
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Speaker 9: pardon no, that Ace Frayley died.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 9: No, it's not great. It's great that I learned it
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Speaker 9: from you. Thank you for I'm sorry.
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Speaker 14: That was awful.
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Speaker 9: They're getting, you know, nominated, or they're for the Lincoln
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Speaker 9: Center thing. But anyway, I wanted to give you my
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Speaker 9: quick Ace Frayley story because he did want and it
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Speaker 9: was fabulous. Scott Shannon told a great story. But they
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Speaker 9: were just they eat, breathed, and ate, you know, rock
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Speaker 9: and roll all night and party every day. I spent
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Speaker 9: a weekend with them.
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Speaker 14: On tour too.
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Speaker 2: You spent a weekend with kiss Huh yeah, I.
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Speaker 9: Know that's but anyway, but for but in memory of Ace,
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Speaker 9: my story is that I was I was, uh, we
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Speaker 9: were trying to figure out what to do for the
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Speaker 9: weekend because they go, we.
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Speaker 2: Gotta we gotta get right to the story. We don't
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Speaker 2: have this kind of time.
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Speaker 9: Okay, So anyway, I said, let's go to Disney World.
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Speaker 9: It's you know, rides, and it's going to be too long.
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Speaker 2: We'll never get to this just get right to the
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Speaker 2: good part.
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Speaker 9: He said, Baby, I am Disney World anyway, long live.
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Speaker 12: Yes, there you go, Baby, I.
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Speaker 2: Am Disney World. I don't know. I mean, I met
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Speaker 2: the guy a few times. He didn't look like maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe great adventure. I don't think he was Disney World,
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Speaker 2: but who knows. Let's go to Mike and Florida. Mike,
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Speaker 2: how you doing?
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Speaker 14: Wait a minute, this is gonna be go ahead, Good morning, Hi,
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Speaker 14: Buck kissed too.
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Speaker 12: The question about I want to ask you about heavy Como.
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Speaker 12: I was from the stumbled course to of my favorite
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Speaker 12: songs by him, Round and Round the best.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what you you have to calls back.
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Speaker 2: Not your fault, something screwed up with it. We have
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Speaker 2: these we have these digital phones. That's why sometimes it
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Speaker 2: sounds so sped up. Let's go to Oh there is
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Speaker 2: Vincent and Brooklyn Vincent, how you doing?
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Speaker 4: Good morning? Mark? Can you hear me? Okay? Yeah, okay, you.
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Speaker 2: Know it's always that line line eight. It's always on
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Speaker 2: that line where that stuff happened.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I called once. I called a couple of minutes
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Speaker 4: ago and immediately dropped and I called back from christ book. Mean,
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Speaker 4: I don't know what this world is coming to Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 4: Can't these guys even just be honest gangsters in payout?
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Speaker 4: And I say that because fifty years ago, back in
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Speaker 4: the day I ran a gambling joint. I'm shocked, and
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Speaker 4: there was there was none of those shenanigans going on.
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Speaker 4: In fact, I would even fund one of usually one
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Speaker 4: of the players at one of the tables was funded
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Speaker 4: by me. And what we would do is whatever I
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Speaker 4: would get sixty percent, I would give him forty percent.
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Speaker 4: But there was no cheating, none of those, none of
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Speaker 4: those shenanigans going on. I checked everybody when they came
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Speaker 4: in for weapons and stuff. I made the god the
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Speaker 4: women opened their pocketbook to see if they had anything
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Speaker 4: in there. And as long as long as you were
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Speaker 4: playing in my place, the food that drinks.
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Speaker 6: Everything was the Executive Game, Yeah, exactly, every Saturday night
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Speaker 6: at twelve o'clock, and it was you had to be
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Speaker 6: You couldn't just come, you had to be a member.
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Speaker 2: And it was like Tony Soprano with the Executive Game.
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Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question. If you just
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Speaker 2: did a normal poker game like Tony Sopranos or Henry Hill,
19:44
Speaker 2: and you would make a nice profit, wouldn't you.
19:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I got a cut on every on every pot,
19:50
Speaker 4: I got a cut. So I got a cut no
19:52
Speaker 4: matter what I see your plate.
19:53
Speaker 2: Why do you need to cheat?
19:54
Speaker 4: Then that's what I'm saying. I don't know, that's what
19:57
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's it's not. I knew a woman up
20:01
Speaker 4: the street and when I was a kid, I used
20:04
Speaker 4: to deliver the food to her house. She had a
20:08
Speaker 4: game where people would come from all over and she
20:12
Speaker 4: would pay This was before ubers that lift. She would
20:15
Speaker 4: pay your cost service or the limousine to take you
20:20
Speaker 4: to the game because you had to have so much
20:23
Speaker 4: to sit at the table. And the game went on
20:26
Speaker 4: all night and food and drink, everything was free as
20:30
Speaker 4: long as you were playing, and she paid out. You know,
20:35
Speaker 4: none of the shenanigan because they're making it. I was
20:38
Speaker 4: making it out no matter what I was making it
20:41
Speaker 4: that I got a cut of every part that was playing.
20:45
Speaker 4: So I hadn't coming and going, so there was no
20:49
Speaker 4: need to do stuff like that. And I don't need
20:51
Speaker 4: thatound if somebody found out somebody was cheating, I don't
20:56
Speaker 4: want nobody a shot or stamped in front of my place.
21:00
Speaker 4: Oh uh No, it was to all the people I
21:04
Speaker 4: know did it on me. I even had a game
21:06
Speaker 4: in a hotel, the Hotel Saint George that mare knows.
21:10
Speaker 2: That's where the executive game was Tony Soprano.
21:13
Speaker 6: Remember it was in a hotel exactly every week it
21:16
Speaker 6: changed up, Yeah, changed the room, and I would pay
21:20
Speaker 6: off the house sticks that.
21:22
Speaker 4: They old day me and every very good vincent.
21:25
Speaker 2: Excellent call, very informative. Hey, we got to take a
21:28
Speaker 2: break for the news. But coming up, it's Johnny Carson's
21:31
Speaker 2: one hundredth birthday. There's all kinds of celebrations and in
21:34
Speaker 2: honor of that, a new book is out. It is
21:37
Speaker 2: the definitive book on Johnny Carson. It is the most detailed,
21:41
Speaker 2: fascinating book. We'll talk to the author next on seven
21:45
Speaker 2: to ten W or.
21:47
Speaker 1: Marximon on sevent ten WR.
21:51
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, if you're a big Johnny Carson fan, listen carefully.
21:55
Speaker 2: First of all, this is a thing called the Carson Podcast.
21:57
Speaker 2: It's excellent. It's everything you could ever know about Johnny Carson.
22:01
Speaker 2: Mark Malkoff the host, He's done like six hundred episodes
22:04
Speaker 2: interviewing everybody that was ever on the Tonight Show, worked
22:07
Speaker 2: at the Tonight Show. Listen, start listening to it the
22:10
Speaker 2: Carson Podcast. Now that all turned into a book. It
22:13
Speaker 2: just came out this week. The book is called Love
22:17
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson. It is the most detailed, fascinating, never before
22:23
Speaker 2: told story of Johnny Carson The Tonight Show. It's called
22:26
Speaker 2: Love Johnny Carson. You can order it right now. Here's
22:30
Speaker 2: the author, Mark Malkoff. Mark Malkoff, how you doing, Mark?
22:34
Speaker 12: It is so good to talk to you. Thanks for
22:36
Speaker 12: having me on. And I have to tell you. Your
22:38
Speaker 12: expertise on this book. I mean, you're very generous. You
22:42
Speaker 12: say that you knew everything about Johnny Carson, and I
22:45
Speaker 12: was the one person that presented all these new things
22:48
Speaker 12: to you and some other people. But your expertise on
22:51
Speaker 12: Carsons this dounds me. I'm grateful for your help in
22:54
Speaker 12: this book, and you're all over the book with your
22:56
Speaker 12: quotes and you've added so much to it. So thank you.
22:59
Speaker 2: I knew everything you could know about Johnny Carson. I
23:02
Speaker 2: started listening to your podcast. I learned like twenty seven
23:04
Speaker 2: thousand more things I didn't know now. But you're a
23:07
Speaker 2: young guy, so you were not really around in the
23:10
Speaker 2: original days of Carson. How did this love of Johnny
23:14
Speaker 2: Carson start with you.
23:14
Speaker 12: You know, I was like five or six years old
23:17
Speaker 12: and my dad would let me stay up on Friday
23:19
Speaker 12: nights and watch Johnny and then they would do these
23:22
Speaker 12: primetime anniversary shows every October, and I just the clip
23:26
Speaker 12: shows were the best because I would watch Johnny with animals,
23:29
Speaker 12: with kids, with senior citizens, the sketches, and he'd be
23:33
Speaker 12: so funny and so witting. It was like this adult party,
23:36
Speaker 12: and the politics at that time was over my head.
23:39
Speaker 12: But you know, I was sixteen when he went out
23:42
Speaker 12: the air on May twenty second, ninety two, and I
23:45
Speaker 12: just missed him, like the nation missed him. And there
23:48
Speaker 12: were just so many questions I had about the show.
23:51
Speaker 12: Who was holding the curtain open for Johnny behind the scenes,
23:53
Speaker 12: what was it like for a guest to be on
23:55
Speaker 12: the show? So I just started this podcast and I
23:59
Speaker 12: interviewed something like sixty or seventy Carson staff members. It
24:02
Speaker 12: was with Irving Davis, the guy who held the curtain
24:04
Speaker 12: open for Johnny for twenty years, to find out what
24:07
Speaker 12: was going on behind the scenes, and it was just
24:10
Speaker 12: this whole different world for me. It was amazing.
24:13
Speaker 2: So besides the funny and the guests in the entertainment.
24:17
Speaker 2: There was something about Carson for a little kid, I
24:19
Speaker 2: kind of the same thing. He would kind of like
24:22
Speaker 2: teach you about how to be an adult, how to
24:24
Speaker 2: have a personality, right, that kind of stuff.
24:26
Speaker 12: I think. So Johnny was really on the show all
24:29
Speaker 12: about manners. He would say though the one time he
24:32
Speaker 12: was knock good with his manners manners and he talked
24:34
Speaker 12: about it on the shows and he struggled with this
24:37
Speaker 12: was his drinking. He would stay on the show when
24:38
Speaker 12: I drink, I have one extra drink, I would turn
24:40
Speaker 12: into a table of the hunt. But he was all
24:42
Speaker 12: about manners and he was really really good with his guests.
24:45
Speaker 12: He never made fun of the people with some top
24:48
Speaker 12: show hosts will try to get a laugh at the
24:49
Speaker 12: expense his rule. Peter less Sali, Johnny's producer, told me uniquely,
24:53
Speaker 12: Johnny was always make the guests look good. It was
24:55
Speaker 12: not to get a laugh for himself. And just the
24:58
Speaker 12: way he handled himself, the way he dressed, class that
25:00
Speaker 12: he had I think really separated himself. And when you
25:04
Speaker 12: were a kid, you're impressionable, and there was just something
25:07
Speaker 12: really about him that was special.
25:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different when you look back now because it's
25:12
Speaker 2: so many years, but at the time he was a
25:14
Speaker 2: very cool guy too. You learned how to be cool watching.
25:16
Speaker 1: Him with Oh.
25:18
Speaker 12: I mean, it's really interesting in the sixties, especially because
25:21
Speaker 12: back then, you know, they go to Hollywood for these trips,
25:24
Speaker 12: because the show is based in New York, and it's
25:26
Speaker 12: the smoking and the drinking and the suits, and it's
25:29
Speaker 12: like people like Dean Martin and Buddy Hackett and Rickles.
25:33
Speaker 12: It was definitely this hip party and then, as you've
25:36
Speaker 12: mentioned many times, in New York, it's this very high
25:38
Speaker 12: brows show with you know, people like Jimmy Breslin and
25:42
Speaker 12: Gorda Badal. At the same time, he could have the
25:45
Speaker 12: funniest people like Rodney Dangerfield on, and I mean, I
25:48
Speaker 12: think he just had such a good variety of guests.
25:51
Speaker 12: His one only crack here for a guest was excellent.
25:54
Speaker 12: If you were good at what you did, it didn't
25:57
Speaker 12: didn't have to be Johnny's taste in music or whatever
25:59
Speaker 12: you did, and he wanted you on. The show was
26:02
Speaker 12: about excellence.
26:03
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the book, you should get the book. It's
26:05
Speaker 2: called Love Johnny Carson. It's a massive book with great pictures.
26:09
Speaker 2: Everything you would want to know about Johnny Carson is
26:11
Speaker 2: called love Johnny Carson, but he was also I was
26:14
Speaker 2: a little kid. You know, he was the guy that
26:16
Speaker 2: introduced us to everybody. He's the one that introduced you
26:19
Speaker 2: to Don Rickles and Buddy Hackett and all those guys.
26:22
Speaker 12: But tell us about that part of it, yeah, I
26:26
Speaker 12: mean definitely. In terms of the comedians. The one thing
26:29
Speaker 12: that I that I really stuck out to me when
26:31
Speaker 12: I talked to famous comedians especially is there was the
26:35
Speaker 12: introducing of comics. I would talk to people like Drew Carrier,
26:39
Speaker 12: talk to people like Bob Saget, and they would highlight
26:41
Speaker 12: their TV guide when a comic would be on, and
26:43
Speaker 12: it would be their introduction. And you know, everyone was
26:46
Speaker 12: making their debut, everyone from Flip Wilson who said Johnny
26:49
Speaker 12: did more for comedians than anybody I know. I mean
26:52
Speaker 12: Flip ended up with his own show on an NBC
26:54
Speaker 12: and his winning Emmys, David Letterman for appearances and his
26:59
Speaker 12: guest hosting the shown Before he Knows It launches his career,
27:02
Speaker 12: and it was just it was uniquely Johnny. I mean,
27:05
Speaker 12: even people like Jimmy Buffett who told me he was
27:08
Speaker 12: so excited to talk to me. I said, mister Buffett,
27:10
Speaker 12: why would you be excited about to me? And he said,
27:12
Speaker 12: going on Carson was the biggest break of my career.
27:14
Speaker 12: And no one has ever asked me about it, no journalist,
27:17
Speaker 12: no one has ever had And it was one of
27:19
Speaker 12: those things where he introduced music, He introduced people like
27:22
Speaker 12: Ross Perrot, the first billionaire. He was in New York
27:26
Speaker 12: and they had him on, and that was he showed
27:28
Speaker 12: up without any security. He showed up for his pre interview,
27:31
Speaker 12: and that was his introduction to so many people that
27:35
Speaker 12: became iconic.
27:37
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, obviously Ed McMahon a big part of the show,
27:40
Speaker 2: no longer with us. But Doc Severnson is alive, isn't he?
27:44
Speaker 12: Doc has He's in Tennessee. We've talked on the phone
27:46
Speaker 12: a bunch of times, and he's been on the Carson podcast.
27:48
Speaker 12: And yeah, Doc, you know, I don't know if he's
27:52
Speaker 12: still you know, unfortunately, you know, Carson's no longer with us.
27:55
Speaker 12: He would have been one hundred years old yesterday. But
27:57
Speaker 12: I think I can still get the sense talking to
28:00
Speaker 12: Doc that he just how much he misses Johnny. I
28:03
Speaker 12: don't think that hurt ever went away. I mean they
28:05
Speaker 12: were really close. Now, Ed McMahon would say that that
28:08
Speaker 12: him and Johnny were close, and they definitely had a bond,
28:11
Speaker 12: but you know, Johnny and Doc would go on vacation
28:14
Speaker 12: with the wives. Where Ed and Johnny were tight back
28:16
Speaker 12: in the New York days, especially when they were hosting
28:19
Speaker 12: an ABC show called Who Do You Trust? On forty
28:21
Speaker 12: fourth Street which is now the Helen Hayes Theater. They
28:24
Speaker 12: go to Sarti's in between shows, but they kind of
28:26
Speaker 12: grew apart a little bit. Yeah, when they moved to Burbank.
28:29
Speaker 12: But Doc, his memory, his recall is unbelievable. I mean
28:32
Speaker 12: Doc was with Steve Allen. I mean he and Peter
28:35
Speaker 12: Lesally are really build the lone people that are still
28:38
Speaker 12: with us, Thank goodness.
28:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen to the Carson podcast, which you should,
28:42
Speaker 2: how many you did like three four episodes with Doc
28:45
Speaker 2: telling all his stories.
28:46
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was with Doc a bunch of episodes, and
28:48
Speaker 12: we are actually going to be releasing some new conversations
28:51
Speaker 12: on the Carson Podcast. We did almost four hundred episodes
28:54
Speaker 12: and then I did a lot of additional episodes or
28:57
Speaker 12: in reviews for the book. People like Jane Lenno, people
29:00
Speaker 12: like Mario Andretti who taught Johnny Carson how to drag
29:03
Speaker 12: race in Indianapolis Speed Highway in the sixties when Johnny
29:07
Speaker 12: did a big stump which was fun. So a lot
29:09
Speaker 12: of new interviews, but yeah, I just I tried to
29:12
Speaker 12: talk to as many people and then we're going to
29:14
Speaker 12: be talking to a lot of new people as well.
29:16
Speaker 12: That it's going to be on the Carson Podcast, so
29:18
Speaker 12: stay tuned for that. But yeah, the stories are to
29:21
Speaker 12: be told. I mean, the people that just tell me
29:23
Speaker 12: it was the greatest time of their life. Yeah, there's
29:26
Speaker 12: just it's endless.
29:28
Speaker 2: People pick on today's late night shows, but not to
29:32
Speaker 2: pick on the host. But it's not their fault. The
29:34
Speaker 2: bigness is gone. It's no longer a massive audience, no
29:37
Speaker 2: longer these huge, big name stars. What do you think
29:41
Speaker 2: the future is of late night It may not last
29:43
Speaker 2: much longer.
29:44
Speaker 12: I'm going I don't. I just the business model seems
29:46
Speaker 12: network TV. The ratings just keep going down every year.
29:49
Speaker 12: I just don't think it's probably sustainable. I mean, let's
29:53
Speaker 12: let's look at this. Johnny at one point was what
29:55
Speaker 12: twenty five percent of all of the NBC's profits. I mean,
29:58
Speaker 12: he was doing an hour in forty five minutes when
30:01
Speaker 12: he started in New York. I mean he became NBC's
30:04
Speaker 12: cash cow.
30:05
Speaker 4: This was a guy.
30:05
Speaker 12: When he started that the critics were like, is he
30:07
Speaker 12: gonna last? Or we're going to is NBC going to
30:10
Speaker 12: bring merv Griffin? And there were rumors Jack Parr was
30:12
Speaker 12: going to come back. And Carson didn't even have his
30:15
Speaker 12: own bathroom in his office at NBC when he started,
30:18
Speaker 12: in his dressing room, he had to go to the
30:20
Speaker 12: men's room with the key and was with all the employees.
30:23
Speaker 12: They did not treat him like a star. So he
30:25
Speaker 12: about nineteen sixty ford he breaks Judy Garland's record at
30:28
Speaker 12: the Sahara Hotel in Vegas. He starts to get more power,
30:32
Speaker 12: and once he starts to get more power and creative
30:34
Speaker 12: power from the network and just became NBC's cash cow.
30:38
Speaker 12: The tie change. By nineteen eighty he gets the ownership
30:42
Speaker 12: of his show, which was completely unheard of, and NBC
30:45
Speaker 12: is essentially working for Johnny. It's the polar opposite and
30:48
Speaker 12: just that domination of a network. I don't think we'll
30:51
Speaker 12: see that again.
30:52
Speaker 2: Hey, we don't have much time with David. You mentioned
30:55
Speaker 2: it's the hundredth birthday of Johnny Carson. What is going
30:58
Speaker 2: on to celebrate that?
31:00
Speaker 12: Yeah, yesterday they did a big thing a Johnny's alma
31:02
Speaker 12: mater at Lincoln I'm in the University of Nebraska. They
31:05
Speaker 12: had some former Carson guests. They had Marilyn May who
31:08
Speaker 12: went on the show a lot, who was a singer.
31:10
Speaker 12: They had a comedian named Pat Hazel who was on
31:13
Speaker 12: Carol Lee for Lance Burden maybe had an amazing Carson
31:16
Speaker 12: debut as a magician. So they have that going on.
31:19
Speaker 12: And I did a nice book signing last night. We
31:21
Speaker 12: have We were packed signing books uptown in Manhattan. So yeah,
31:26
Speaker 12: I've been just seeing so many people posting about Carson,
31:29
Speaker 12: about the centennial, just about how much he's missed. And
31:32
Speaker 12: the official Johnny Carson YouTube channel has over a million subscribers,
31:36
Speaker 12: and it just tells you how much people miss this man.
31:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great stuff on YouTube. We're out of time,
31:40
Speaker 2: but we'll do this again soon. But everybody love that Mark.
31:43
Speaker 12: Thank you for your generosa. You've been such a palent,
31:46
Speaker 12: great phone.
31:46
Speaker 2: Everybody get the book. Ordered the book. It's called Love
31:49
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson. It's a long detail, it's everything you'd want
31:53
Speaker 2: to know. About Johnny Carson. It's fascinating. It's called Love
31:56
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson. And listen to the Carson Podcast, undreds of episodes.
32:00
Speaker 2: You'll love this podcast. And Mark Malcoff, thanks for the book,
32:04
Speaker 2: Thanks for the podcast.
32:06
Speaker 12: Thanks Mark for everything, Thanks for your support. We'll talk
32:08
Speaker 12: to him.
32:09
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, take care, Yeah, get the book.
32:11
Speaker 4: You'll love it.
32:12
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32:37
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32:41
Speaker 2: it's not summer anymore. It's pretty obvious, but it's just
32:44
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32:47
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32:50
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32:54
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32:56
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