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- 0:24Speaker 4: Edla Love of course, co host of Bloomberg Tech on
- 0:26Speaker 4: Bloomberg Television. He's out there in our San Francisco bureau,
- 0:29Speaker 4: also with us as our anaag Rana, Bloomberg Intelligence Senior
- 0:32Speaker 4: technolology analyst. He's out there in Chicago, honoreg I want
- 0:37Speaker 4: to kick it off with you go where you want.
- 0:39Speaker 4: There's a lot coming at US. I want to start
- 0:41Speaker 4: with Microsoft.
- 0:43Speaker 5: Yeah, so Microsoft did beat a little bit on the
- 0:45Speaker 5: Azure growth, so thirty eight percent goes to thirty nine,
- 0:49Speaker 5: So minor inflection up. We're going to hear on the
- 0:51Speaker 5: call whether they're going to use the they have used
- 0:53Speaker 5: sheep us internally, and what kind of guidance that they give.
- 0:57Speaker 5: So that's really Microsoft. But the two biggest shaka are
- 1:00Speaker 5: actually Google Cloud growth and AWS growth. Both have accelerated
- 1:04Speaker 5: quite a bit. That shows that their cloud strategy right
- 1:07Speaker 5: now is doing slightly better than MICROSOFTS.
- 1:11Speaker 3: And Love though, come on in here again. We've got
- 1:12Speaker 3: a great Roundtiller Love the Bloomberg Tech co host. That
- 1:15Speaker 3: was Honor Rna Bloomberg Intelligence senior analyst who we just
- 1:18Speaker 3: heard from. In in a minute, we're going to bring
- 1:19Speaker 3: in Ron Westfall Hyperframe Research, Infrastructure and Networking VP and
- 1:24Speaker 3: practice leader ed what's on your radar?
- 1:27Speaker 6: How hard it is to follow? Anna rag, I gave
- 1:30Speaker 6: you a little time, little time? Yeah, look I go
- 1:33Speaker 6: with it. Logical that AWS growth Amazon Web Services is
- 1:37Speaker 6: the number one position in cloud computing. Twenty eight percent
- 1:41Speaker 6: is the highest rate of growth for about fifteen quarters.
- 1:45Speaker 6: That's that's the severity of the performance. So going into this,
- 1:48Speaker 6: I'm trying to get a common thread between Alphabet, the
- 1:52Speaker 6: parent of Google AWS, and Microsoft. We looked for the
- 1:55Speaker 6: growth rates of cloud because the swing factor in the
- 1:58Speaker 6: market has been cap to expect. Investors have been willing
- 2:02Speaker 6: to look at the capital expenditures even if those numbers
- 2:04Speaker 6: get bigger. But in return, they want to see outperformance
- 2:08Speaker 6: in cloud computing growth driven by AI and also they
- 2:11Speaker 6: want to see some kind of forward guidance boosted forward guidance,
- 2:15Speaker 6: and so in these statements we have the numbers on
- 2:18Speaker 6: growth of cloud. We don't have a capital expenditures figure
- 2:21Speaker 6: for AWS that's any different from prior guidance. Meta does
- 2:25Speaker 6: have a new capital expenditures figure, and I would just
- 2:27Speaker 6: suggest we go to that next.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly where I want to go. One hundred
- 2:30Speaker 3: and twenty five to one hundred and forty five billion
- 2:32Speaker 3: dollars increase from a prior range of one hundred and
- 2:34Speaker 3: fifteen to one hundred and thirty five billion dollars. As
- 2:37Speaker 3: a result, we're seeing shares of Meta platforms carrilled down
- 2:39Speaker 3: by six point three percent.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Yeah. Kurt Wagner, a tech reporter on the Metal Live blog.
- 2:44Speaker 4: From the release, we anticipate twenty twenty six capex, including
- 2:47Speaker 4: those principal payments on finance leases, to be in the
- 2:51Speaker 4: range of that one twenty five to one forty five billion,
- 2:53Speaker 4: So increase from that range, just to reiterate, So that's
- 2:57Speaker 4: a problem in.
- 2:58Speaker 6: Well, let's just do the calculation right, So we know
- 3:01Speaker 6: that capex is going up, what is the outlook for growth?
- 3:04Speaker 2: Revenue in the current period?
- 3:06Speaker 6: Second quarter will be fifty eight billion to sixty one
- 3:10Speaker 6: billion dollars. Consensus was fifty nine point six billion. That
- 3:14Speaker 6: is right in line. And we went into this knowing
- 3:17Speaker 6: based on a summary of the cell side and of
- 3:19Speaker 6: the buy side that if the CAPEX numbers get higher,
- 3:23Speaker 6: they want to see growth also going up. In terms
- 3:26Speaker 6: of guidance going forward, and you know this second quarter
- 3:29Speaker 6: guide on Meta sales, it's very in line with expectation.
- 3:33Speaker 3: I want to bring in Ron Westfall, Hyperframe Research, Infrastructure
- 3:36Speaker 3: and Networking VP and practice leader. I want to stay
- 3:38Speaker 3: on what Ed was talking about Ron, and that's Meta
- 3:42Speaker 3: Meta's CAPEX estimate. We're also seeing some headlines. Headwinds in
- 3:47Speaker 3: the EU and US could significantly impact results. The company
- 3:50Speaker 3: sees scrutiny on youth related issues as well. Shares of
- 3:54Speaker 3: Meta platforms right now down about five and a half percent,
- 3:56Speaker 3: but it does seem like more important is CAPEX number
- 4:00Speaker 3: hen and twenty five hundred and forty five billion increase
- 4:03Speaker 3: from that prior range of one hundred and fifteen two
- 4:05Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five billion dollars. What are your thoughts?
- 4:09Speaker 7: Sure, I like to start with looking at the bigger picture.
- 4:12Speaker 7: I would see Meta as certainly benefiting overall despite the
- 4:17Speaker 7: recent dip from the overall market expectations that is the
- 4:23Speaker 7: total addressable market for Meta alongside the other of the
- 4:28Speaker 7: major four that are coming out this week, is a
- 4:32Speaker 7: total addressable market of up to eleven trillion dollars, and
- 4:36Speaker 7: so I think that's going to definitely enable Meta as
- 4:40Speaker 7: well as the other players to continue with the upswing
- 4:45Speaker 7: and capex. And yes, that's causing concern, but I think
- 4:48Speaker 7: what we're looking at is when you look at the
- 4:50Speaker 7: group burnings, they're projected to grow twenty percent year over year,
- 4:55Speaker 7: and that is outpacing the overall S and P five
- 4:58Speaker 7: hundred fourteen point five percent growth expectation. And so as
- 5:03Speaker 7: a result, I'm anticipating that Meta will definitely be looking
- 5:07Speaker 7: pretty solid over the course of the year and further out,
- 5:11Speaker 7: because not only is it upping its CAPEX expenditures, however,
- 5:16Speaker 7: it's also I think benefiting from trading at a relatively
- 5:20Speaker 7: conservative forward pe ratio of the lower to mid twenties,
- 5:24Speaker 7: as you know that fluctuates on a daily basis, and
- 5:27Speaker 7: they're definitely benefiting from the fact that they're monetizing AI
- 5:30Speaker 7: more rapidly than some of the other Max seven thanks
- 5:33Speaker 7: to their social platforms, certainly including Facebook as well as
- 5:38Speaker 7: Instagram and so I think that's something that will definitely
- 5:41Speaker 7: be something to definitely look at as we find out
- 5:46Speaker 7: what Meta is really going to do for the rest
- 5:48Speaker 7: of the year.
- 5:49Speaker 4: All right, folks, I want to go over to Amazon.
- 5:51Speaker 4: A couple of things also popping up, fifty nine point
- 5:54Speaker 4: three billion year year rise and purchase of property and equipment.
- 5:57Speaker 4: They say the increase in purchases reflect investment in AI.
- 6:02Speaker 4: They also say, ed fred free cash flow fil to
- 6:05Speaker 4: one point two billion for trailing twelve months. Come on
- 6:07Speaker 4: back in lot though.
- 6:08Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is exactly what I've got on my screen.
- 6:11Speaker 6: So the story financially for each company is slightly different.
- 6:15Speaker 6: If we focus on Amazon, it's spending so much on
- 6:17Speaker 6: AI infrastructure that trailing twelvemonth three cash flow basically falls
- 6:23Speaker 6: from twenty six billion dollars to one point two billion dollars.
- 6:27Speaker 6: Operating cash flow rises. Amazon's are complicated business, right, you know,
- 6:31Speaker 6: AWS largely accounts for most of operating income, but increasingly,
- 6:36Speaker 6: like ADS is important on the e commerce side. And
- 6:40Speaker 6: I'm hoping that that Ana Rag will kind of talk
- 6:42Speaker 6: a little bit about that this is kind of a
- 6:44Speaker 6: classics building cycle signal though, and to this point, and
- 6:48Speaker 6: you know, maybe one of the other guys and weigh
- 6:50Speaker 6: in on this. I'm just but a journalist, but you know,
- 6:55Speaker 6: the market has been really sanguine about negative free cash
- 6:58Speaker 6: flow or the prospect of it. You know that it's
- 7:01Speaker 6: not something that everyone's like freaked out over. Basically, that's
- 7:05Speaker 6: a very simple way of putting it.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Ron come on back in Ron westfall of hyperframe. How
- 7:10Speaker 4: do you see it in terms of what Amazon's up to.
- 7:12Speaker 4: I like that idea and this concept of you've got
- 7:15Speaker 4: to spend to build for future revenue, But how do
- 7:18Speaker 4: you see it?
- 7:21Speaker 7: I think AWS is definitely benefiting Amazon's overall prospects, and
- 7:27Speaker 7: I think that's underlined by the fact that the AWSAI
- 7:30Speaker 7: revenue run rate has already gone past fifteen billion dollars,
- 7:35Speaker 7: and that's linking to the fact that as growth is
- 7:39Speaker 7: projected to accelerate toward twenty five point six percent following
- 7:44Speaker 7: its landmark one hundred billion dollar infrastructure deal with Anthropic.
- 7:48Speaker 7: So clearly that's something that I think will create not
- 7:50Speaker 7: only positive perception, but I think it's giving you know,
- 7:54Speaker 7: the hard numbers that AWS needs to continue with these
- 7:59Speaker 7: cap asks expansions. Also, I think it's important to note
- 8:03Speaker 7: that AWS capacity is selling out immediately, and so that's
- 8:08Speaker 7: supported by a massive two hundred and forty four billion
- 8:11Speaker 7: dollar contracted backlog, as well as high margin revenue from
- 8:17Speaker 7: its trainium and graviton chips, and these I think are
- 8:20Speaker 7: offset of concerns around the large margin pressure from the
- 8:24Speaker 7: two hundred billion dollar billion planned and capital expenditures for
- 8:29Speaker 7: the year. And so you take this together, I think
- 8:33Speaker 7: net positive is what Amazon is going to bring to
- 8:36Speaker 7: the table. It's definitely, I think something that applies to
- 8:39Speaker 7: all the hyperscalers, and Amazon I think is definitely positioned
- 8:43Speaker 7: to improve on its performance. As a result, we've got.
- 8:47Speaker 4: To go to Alphabet, which is up three and a
- 8:48Speaker 4: half percent here in the aftermarket.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Yeah. The company reported quarterly revenue and profited beat projections.
- 8:53Speaker 3: It was fueled by strong growth in its cloud computing unit.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Its signaled that the Internet Giant's unprecedented investments in AI
- 8:59Speaker 3: infrastructure are beginning to pay off. The company said that
- 9:03Speaker 3: first quarter revenue excluding those partner payouts, was ninety four
- 9:06Speaker 3: point seven billion dollars. That compares to the ninety one
- 9:09Speaker 3: point six billion dollars expected on average by analysts. That's
- 9:12Speaker 3: according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
- 9:15Speaker 4: All right, still with us is Ed Lulow, a Bloomberg
- 9:17Speaker 4: Tech co host Bloomberg TV, and our Agrana Bloomberg Intelligence
- 9:20Speaker 4: Senior technology analyst, Ed. As we continue to go through
- 9:25Speaker 4: these numbers and results, where do you want to go?
- 9:28Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 9:28Speaker 2: I think you guys have done a masterful job.
- 9:30Speaker 6: You know, the the cloud growth rate, if we put
- 9:33Speaker 6: medatus to one side for a minute, is really interesting
- 9:36Speaker 6: because all things are relative. So you know, Ana rag
- 9:39Speaker 6: pointed out if you if you focus on Google cloud
- 9:42Speaker 6: sixty three percent growth. You know, AI is for them
- 9:47Speaker 6: also boosting search, right, and they had this kind of
- 9:50Speaker 6: dual benefit, which is really interesting. They reported a metric
- 9:54Speaker 6: that we've kind of not skipped over, but there's so
- 9:57Speaker 6: much news it gets buried, which is that Gemini for Enterprise,
- 10:00Speaker 6: in other words, their AI tool that businesses pay for
- 10:05Speaker 6: saw its active user base grow forty percent quarter on quarter.
- 10:09Speaker 2: So there was a big jump in that. And the
- 10:12Speaker 2: reason I flagged.
- 10:13Speaker 6: That as important is that that's the standard to which
- 10:16Speaker 6: we hold open ai right and andthropic. You know, but
- 10:20Speaker 6: the markets of earlier this week were spooked by the
- 10:23Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal report of Open AI missing its own
- 10:26Speaker 6: internal metrics. One of them was the active user base
- 10:29Speaker 6: of chat GPT, which isn't universally an enterprise product, it's consumer.
- 10:33Speaker 6: But I find that to be really interesting, and you know,
- 10:36Speaker 6: it shows tangible growth on the other side of people
- 10:38Speaker 6: actually using this. This the Gemini tool in the real world,
- 10:43Speaker 6: you know, right, which.
- 10:44Speaker 4: We all keep talking about. We need to see, right
- 10:46Speaker 4: to kind of justify the spend. All right, We're going
- 10:48Speaker 4: to continue with Ed Ludlow and of course Ron Westfall
- 10:52Speaker 4: in just a moment. As we mentioned, Alphabet is now
- 10:55Speaker 4: up about five point eight percent here in the aftermarket.
- 10:58Speaker 4: We're looking at Amazon down about two point four percent,
- 11:01Speaker 4: Meta a decline of five point three percent, and then
- 11:04Speaker 4: we've also got Microsoft out with its results and we're
- 11:07Speaker 4: seeing this one. It's been under pressure in the aftermarket
- 11:09Speaker 4: right now, Tim about one point eight percent.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Hey, we were talking about meta platforms. We have spoken
- 11:15Speaker 3: quite a bit about Amazon, Qualcom and more. I want
- 11:18Speaker 3: to bring Alphabet to our attention, six point six percent higher.
- 11:22Speaker 3: In the after hours, the company reported quarterly revenue and
- 11:25Speaker 3: profit that beat projections. It was fueled by strong growth
- 11:27Speaker 3: in its cloud computing unit. That cloud computing unit reported
- 11:31Speaker 3: sales of twenty billion dollars with a quote meaningful acceleration
- 11:34Speaker 3: in growth driven by demand for its AI software and infrastructure.
- 11:38Speaker 3: I want to bring it back in Ed Ludlow, Bloomberg
- 11:40Speaker 3: Tech co host and Ron Westfall hyper frame research, infrastructure
- 11:43Speaker 3: networking VP and a practice leader. Ron, I want to
- 11:47Speaker 3: start with you in alphabet because we are seeing share
- 11:49Speaker 3: surge in the after hours. The company reported earnings per
- 11:52Speaker 3: share of five dollars and eleven cents, compared with Wall
- 11:55Speaker 3: Street's two dollars and sixty two per share estimate. The
- 11:59Speaker 3: cloud growth to certainly top of mind. We should remind
- 12:02Speaker 3: everybody that you know, it competes against AWS and Microsoft's Azure.
- 12:07Speaker 3: This report, though, what sticks out to you?
- 12:11Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's pointing to that Google is making
- 12:14Speaker 7: more in roads in terms of capturing you know, mind
- 12:18Speaker 7: share amongst the hyper scale competition. And I think what
- 12:23Speaker 7: we saw is that when you look at Google Cloud
- 12:25Speaker 7: specifically and reporting over twenty billion revenue, well that basically
- 12:30Speaker 7: beat out the analyst estimates, and that is I think
- 12:33Speaker 7: a remarkable sixty three percent you overhear growth rate, and
- 12:37Speaker 7: so that by itself is congratulatory. And when you look
- 12:42Speaker 7: further down, it's like, okay, why are the cloud margins
- 12:46Speaker 7: expanding to nearly thirty percent, up from just twenty percent
- 12:50Speaker 7: six months ago. I think what is resonating is that
- 12:54Speaker 7: the company is making the right moves. Certainly, it's acquisition
- 12:58Speaker 7: of wiz, which closed just last month and has already
- 13:02Speaker 7: become integrated. It's making Google Cloud a more attractive choice
- 13:08Speaker 7: for enterprises that are requiring sovereign and highly secure AI environments.
- 13:13Speaker 7: And that is certainly a hot topic in our conversations,
- 13:17Speaker 7: and that is sovereign AI is something that will underpin
- 13:21Speaker 7: confidence and the ability of enterprises to adopt the hyper
- 13:25Speaker 7: scale AI services and so forth. And certainly that comes
- 13:29Speaker 7: to inferencing, and that is, you know, ensuring that their propriety,
- 13:34Speaker 7: proprietary data never falls into the wrong hands, that you know,
- 13:38Speaker 7: it's not going to be something that will be exposed
- 13:40Speaker 7: out in the public cloud at part of it. And
- 13:44Speaker 7: I think what's also important is that what we saw
- 13:46Speaker 7: at Google Cloud Next just you know, last week, is
- 13:50Speaker 7: that when it comes to uh, you know, the TPU silicon,
- 13:55Speaker 7: Google is coming up with innovative ways to augment the
- 13:59Speaker 7: NVIDIA capable at least they have in house certainly they
- 14:02Speaker 7: use their TPUs to train their own models in house,
- 14:05Speaker 7: that includes a Gemini for example. But I think they're
- 14:08Speaker 7: smart about how they're now diversifying their AI chip sets
- 14:12Speaker 7: to stand out. That is, now they have TPU what
- 14:16Speaker 7: they're calling t eight that is that is a specific
- 14:20Speaker 7: for training only, but now they also have the TPU
- 14:24Speaker 7: eight I, which is for inferencing. And so what we're
- 14:27Speaker 7: seeing is a fundamental shift more toward inferencing. That is,
- 14:31Speaker 7: you know, the AI capabilities being used in play, that is,
- 14:36Speaker 7: the ability to use handsets and other capabilities that take
- 14:41Speaker 7: what has already been trained and actually apply to real
- 14:44Speaker 7: world scenarios. And so as a result, I think this
- 14:48Speaker 7: is why Alphabet is definitely making inroads with winning more
- 14:55Speaker 7: cloud business. And if you look at Alphabet overall, I
- 14:59Speaker 7: think also it's import to note that when it comes
- 15:01Speaker 7: to diversifying revenue streams that their way MO unit is
- 15:06Speaker 7: definitely making it would say waves. So that is that's
- 15:10Speaker 7: already scaling up to one million rides and so that
- 15:13Speaker 7: I think is something that will definitely continue the revenue
- 15:17Speaker 7: generating capabilities moving forward.
- 15:19Speaker 4: Well, we're definitely seeing it. Jine in the aftermarket now
- 15:22Speaker 4: up about six point two percent here. I mean listen,
- 15:24Speaker 4: to be fair, Alphabet's definitely been hustling when it comes
- 15:27Speaker 4: to AI. Amazon right now though down about one point
- 15:30Speaker 4: nine percent. We want to get a little bit more
- 15:32Speaker 4: on Amazon. And with that, Matt Day, Bloomberg News Technology
- 15:35Speaker 4: reporter follows the company joining us right now. Matt, walk
- 15:39Speaker 4: us through what you think is important for our audience.
- 15:42Speaker 1: You can go back to what Jeff Bezos said was important,
- 15:45Speaker 1: his favorite metric, free cash flow. If you look at
- 15:47Speaker 1: Amazon the last twelve months, it's not zero, but it's
- 15:49Speaker 1: pretty close to zero, and it's a whole lot closer
- 15:51Speaker 1: than it was last year. So the reason for that, obviously,
- 15:54Speaker 1: it's AI spending. It's data centers, a whole lot of
- 15:57Speaker 1: property and equipment that there's spend money on these days.
- 16:01Speaker 1: The cloud revenue is good, it's going up. It beat expectations.
- 16:05Speaker 1: But just a reminder for Amazon investors, they're spending a
- 16:08Speaker 1: whole lot to get a seat at this table.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Is the spending paying off?
- 16:13Speaker 1: It looks like it if you if you roll things
- 16:16Speaker 1: back a few months ago, folks were really concerned about
- 16:18Speaker 1: Amazon's position in cloud, and we're just talked about Google, Microsoft,
- 16:23Speaker 1: was also really hot, and they kind of looked like
- 16:24Speaker 1: they might be sort of the third place cloud of
- 16:26Speaker 1: the AI era. To boil it down. Since then, they've
- 16:29Speaker 1: done these big mechad deals with open Ai, with Anthropic,
- 16:32Speaker 1: and it looks like some of that is starting to
- 16:33Speaker 1: filter into their at their cloud results, they've accelerated the
- 16:36Speaker 1: last couple of quarters.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Anything you're scratching your head over here, Matt a little.
- 16:40Speaker 1: The market reaction, honestly, is they beat on so many
- 16:43Speaker 1: things that if it feels like a lot of these
- 16:46Speaker 1: big tech names been going between Capex freak out to
- 16:49Speaker 1: you know, OAI is the future and in quarter quarter,
- 16:52Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to tell what folks are stinking
- 16:53Speaker 1: their teeth into.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Is the yeah, oh, go ahead, Carol, No, go ahead.
- 16:57Speaker 3: The investing that Amazon has done in open Ai and Anthropic,
- 17:02Speaker 3: it's committed that they'll h to spend more than one
- 17:05Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars on AWS services in the coming years
- 17:09Speaker 3: between those two. How do investors look at that, because
- 17:15Speaker 3: it's do they look at it as venture like the
- 17:18Speaker 3: company's making a bet, like a venture capitalist bet, or
- 17:21Speaker 3: does it look like the companies trying, you know, guaranteeing
- 17:26Speaker 3: business by making these investments in exchange for AWS usage.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I mean, some of it is is clearly buying business
- 17:34Speaker 1: a little bit right, making sure that you've got entitlement
- 17:36Speaker 1: relationship with open AI that they want to spend. But
- 17:38Speaker 1: I think there are some long term questions. You know,
- 17:40Speaker 1: Oracle has seen versions of this. Microsoft have seen this
- 17:43Speaker 1: where you know, investors start to discount. Okay, Sam Maltman
- 17:46Speaker 1: has pledged to spend you know, one trillion dollars plus
- 17:48Speaker 1: all over the place. How much of that is going
- 17:50Speaker 1: to materialize? Right? So now Amazon's in a position where they've
- 17:53Speaker 1: definitely got a slice of that alongside anthropic spending. So
- 17:56Speaker 1: the question is, you know, when does that materialize, Where
- 17:59Speaker 1: do you start to put that up on the calendar,
- 18:00Speaker 1: and how much of a sure thing does that become.
- 18:03Speaker 3: I want to bring back Ron Westfall, Hyperframe Research, Infrastructure Networking,
- 18:06Speaker 3: a VPN practice leader. He has been with us for
- 18:09Speaker 3: about an hour as the slew of earnings came in
- 18:11Speaker 3: at thanks to ED, we know at seventy one seconds
- 18:14Speaker 3: for all of these companies to report, we're still you know,
- 18:17Speaker 3: breaking our making our way through all of these I
- 18:20Speaker 3: weigh in on Amazon, what we've heard from Matt what
- 18:23Speaker 3: we've heard from Ed as well, because this is a
- 18:27Speaker 3: company where you know, certainly AWS is the star, but
- 18:30Speaker 3: it also and that's what moves the needle, but it
- 18:33Speaker 3: also gives us a good idea of what Americans are
- 18:37Speaker 3: paying and how American consumer spending is holding up, even
- 18:41Speaker 3: though that's not really what moves the stock.
- 18:46Speaker 7: It's amazing. I think when you're looking at Okay, what
- 18:50Speaker 7: is Amazon doing? That is you know, continuing these organizations
- 18:56Speaker 7: as well as consumers to you know, use their certainly
- 19:01Speaker 7: their services. And I think when he snapshot for example AWS,
- 19:08Speaker 7: that is, you know, the enterprises are using Amazon bedrock,
- 19:12Speaker 7: and that is underlined by their trainingum to Inferentia chipsets.
- 19:18Speaker 7: And if you look at that, that chipset business alone
- 19:22Speaker 7: is reached twenty billion dollars in annualize revenue run rate.
- 19:27Speaker 7: And so I think this is pointing to that Amazon
- 19:29Speaker 7: is making the right bets across its entire portfolio. It's
- 19:33Speaker 7: not just about Okay, how can we improve you know,
- 19:37Speaker 7: the Amazon experience, but also how can AWS meet business
- 19:42Speaker 7: needs on across the board basis. And I think, yeah,
- 19:45Speaker 7: when it comes to fundamentals, when we're looking at Amazon,
- 19:48Speaker 7: Amazon advertising. He's on track to exceed seventy billion dollars
- 19:53Speaker 7: in revenue just this year. And that is, you know,
- 19:56Speaker 7: tied to the fact that there's so much high intent
- 19:58Speaker 7: purchase data information that they're able to leverage that it's
- 20:02Speaker 7: improving their capability. So that is again underlying why AI
- 20:08Speaker 7: is making a difference in terms of their business model.
- 20:11Speaker 7: And I think it's also reflected in what we talked
- 20:13Speaker 7: about in.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Terms of the metas.
- 20:15Speaker 7: Hey, guys, something I think will improve.
- 20:18Speaker 4: No, this is all good stuff, really good stuff. We
- 20:21Speaker 4: could go on and on. Hey, we've got about two
- 20:23Speaker 4: minutes before we have to wrap up this segment. I'm
- 20:25Speaker 4: just curious for each of you, what do you think
- 20:28Speaker 4: was kind of the most important headline or narrative from
- 20:32Speaker 4: this drop of for results. And Matt, let me start
- 20:36Speaker 4: with you. I know Amazon's your jams, so maybe go
- 20:39Speaker 4: there or go anywhere there's a good spot.
- 20:43Speaker 1: I mean, it's that Amazon's got a seat at the table,
- 20:46Speaker 1: right They've got all the big models are on a
- 20:49Speaker 1: WS and so now you know, there was a first
- 20:50Speaker 1: leg of this AI competition was you know, who's going
- 20:53Speaker 1: to add the exclusive tie up? This one looks like
- 20:55Speaker 1: you can get most just about anything anywhere. So who's
- 20:57Speaker 1: got the better mouse trapping cloud? Looking forward to seeing
- 20:59Speaker 1: how that transplarers?
- 21:00Speaker 3: All right, Ron, your turn, come on in here. Just
- 21:02Speaker 3: the most important bit of info you got from any
- 21:04Speaker 3: of these companies that reported after the bell.
- 21:07Speaker 4: And you can't say, ah, yeah, I think they both.
- 21:11Speaker 7: No, they're demonstrating the runways there that this capex is
- 21:14Speaker 7: all justified, and I think we're seeing that it's having
- 21:16Speaker 7: an impact already. We're seeing that the companies that have
- 21:19Speaker 7: integrated AI to their operations are seeing cash flow margin
- 21:23Speaker 7: expansion it roughly twice the global average. So yes, it
- 21:27Speaker 7: is now making a difference. The ROI is there and
- 21:29Speaker 7: we're seeing the results.
- 21:31Speaker 4: All right, good stuff, Ron, Thank you so much. Ed,
- 21:33Speaker 4: come on in, same thing for you. I know you
- 21:35Speaker 4: kind of love all these It's hard to have a
- 21:37Speaker 4: favorite child here. But I'm just curious, as you look
- 21:39Speaker 4: at these headlines and you're thinking about your show tomorrow,
- 21:42Speaker 4: is there a narrative a headline that really just sticks
- 21:45Speaker 4: with you?
- 21:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know.
- 21:47Speaker 6: Across all four and it includes Meadow, which is a
- 21:49Speaker 6: slightly different company. AI demand is running ahead of their
- 21:53Speaker 6: ability to supply. That's not a new sentence or idea.
- 21:57Speaker 6: People have been saying that for a little while, and
- 21:59Speaker 6: so across four it's interesting to see those that they
- 22:02Speaker 6: believe and those that they don't. This isn't profound selling
- 22:06Speaker 6: in Meta's case or in Amazon's case. It's not severe
- 22:09Speaker 6: buying in alphabets are either or you know. So I
- 22:14Speaker 6: think the idea is proof points, you know, like tangible
- 22:17Speaker 6: new pieces of data. Google gave many of them, and
- 22:20Speaker 6: investors have kind of cheered that. But it's about AI
- 22:23Speaker 6: in the real world, and that might sound abstract, but
- 22:25Speaker 6: that's what the market's been asking for.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Okay, well, speaking of AI and the real world, just
- 22:29Speaker 3: push us ahead to tomorrow afternoon when we hear from Apple,
- 22:33Speaker 3: Tim Cook, John Turnus. What's thirty seconds on what you
- 22:37Speaker 3: expect from Apple.
- 22:38Speaker 6: This is the first earnings and earnings call since Tim
- 22:41Speaker 6: Cook announced he's stepped down September one, and John Turnus
- 22:45Speaker 6: becomes CEO September first, and I think whatever Apple says
- 22:48Speaker 6: about handsets or software that it will just be about
- 22:52Speaker 6: those two people.
- 22:52Speaker 4: All right, unbelievable sixty minutes on here on Bloomberg Business Weekday, guys,
- 22:57Speaker 4: Thank you so much, so appreciate our own ed Ludlow,
- 23:00Speaker 4: co host of Bloomberg Tech. Catch him on TV eleven
- 23:03Speaker 4: am to twelve noon Monday through Friday, Wall Street Time,
- 23:07Speaker 4: Ron Westfall, thank you so much for all that time
- 23:09Speaker 4: Hyperframe Research, Infrastructure, Networking VP and practice leader out there
- 23:13Speaker 4: in the Twin Cities, and of course out in Seattle
- 23:16Speaker 4: watching Amazon, our own Matt Day, Bloomberg News technology reporter.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Incredible stuff.