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"License and Registration?" (Wednesday September 10, 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Fiant.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more megan now make America great again than I've
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  ever been on a.
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  Speaker 1: Need to know basis, because you need to know the
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  first thing today.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to a ted Sty. Thank you for letting us
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  be of service to you. My name is Joe, as
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  you heard the man say, and we gather here each
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  day to make sure that you know what the heck
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  is going on in the world around you, and you
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  can make sense of it all a little bit better.
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  And I'd like to think that you go forth and
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  when you run into people who have only been confronted
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  with the narratives pitched by the news, then you will
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  be kind with them and help them out. This email, Joe,
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  hearing you talk about Trump two point zero reminds me
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  of Mayor Giuliani's administration. I like you grew up in
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  New York City. Giuliani took flack constantly and never seemed
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  to worry about it, just kept moving forward and got reelected.
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  Is that perhaps what Trump's doing? I mean, Giuliani is
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  one of his close friends. Noah, Trudeau is joining us
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  licensing one of the things that gets in front of
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  freedom in this country. Noah, what got you into the
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  world of looking into licensing in the first place at
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  the Archbridge Institute place.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so as a grad student while working on my
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  master's degree, I actually stumbled upon some interesting district court cases.
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  So in a few states in the United States, you
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  have to be a license few director to sell caskets.
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  And I don't know if you know this, but Costco
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  actually sells caskets, and so if you were a Costco
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  in one of these states trying to sell caskets, you
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  would have to have a licensed funeral director on staff
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  to be able to do so. So finding that occupational
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  license as a grad student led me to realize that
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  for a fifty or forty nine out of fifty states
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  plus DC, so fifty out of fifty one jurisdictions have
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  licensed to funeral directors, which I thought was kind of crazy,
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  and that led me kind of into this rabbit hole
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  of what is actually out there that's licensed that maybe
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  we don't think is. So everybody knows brain surgeons, everybody
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  knows lawyers. Most of the people will see their barber
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  has a license kind of posted up on the mirror.
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  But what's out there that we'd see flying under the radar,
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  and the rabbit hole goes quite deep, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, doctor Trudeau. I was told he's a doctor, he's
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  a professor. Hang on at Archbridge Institute. Noah Trudeau on
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  how we kill business and kill free markets by licensing
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  it to death. But first I need to lay out
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  the first things for the folk. The US Attorney's Office
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  and the FBI announced the man accused of killing Ukrainian
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  refugee Arena Zarutska last month is facing federal hate crime charges.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Russ Fergus Ferguson, the US Attorney for the Western District
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  of North Carolina, made that announcement yesterday. Treasury Secretary Scott
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  Bessnt warned the Supreme Court that upholding lower court rulings
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  against President Trump's tariffs could force the US to refund
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  right now visiting with doctor Noah Trudeau just published his
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  State Occupy Occupational Licensing Index. It's an index of all
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  the states where it's hardest to do anything because you
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  have to get all these permits and licenses and you
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  know what, not else it's the gloved hand for your
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  own good No, so uh, these It's always been my
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  premise that a lot of these licensed sure things are
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  a backhand way of killing economic pursuit and stopping people
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  from chasing down the very thing that we believe here
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  on Ted's Day on my show, which is that we
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  all have gifts and talents and we should be able
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  to go out there and make a living with them. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So when we're talking about these occupational licenses,
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  it can be incredible burden, including having to go to
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  school for multiple years, getting specific degrees, you have to
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  pass exams, and then there's also a financial commitment. Ever,
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  license comes with a fee, so you're actually literally chilling
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  out money out of pocket on top of all of.
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  Speaker 3: That, right every year too. It's not like you pay
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  one time and you're done there. So when you start
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  to look into all the different states, and we'll get
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  into how the states rank, especially because we're shallow in Virginia,
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  what were some of the more eye popping things that
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  people were required to get licenses to do in the
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  fifty United States in twenty twenty five, So.
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  Speaker 4: This is our thirty year doing this index, so not
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  much surprises me anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Okay the first time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, first time around, things like art therapy, things like giogists,
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  things like music therapists, and of course, when you actually
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  get into the nitty gritty, the requirements that are put
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  on barbers, cosmetologists, hair braiders in many states, just the
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  act of braiding hair for a profession is where you
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  start to be really surprised. Some fun ones that I've
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  noticed kind of along the way pyrotechnic operators. So if
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  you are doing your local cities Fourth of July fireworks display,
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  they're pyrotechnic operator. But in some states they just call
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  it fireworkshuters because that's a great way to call it.
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  And so there are individual licenses in those spaces as well.
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  Speaker 3: So when you dig into these and I don't know
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  how forensic you got into this, doctor Trudeau, but I
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  imagine that somewhere deep in the bowels of these occupations
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  occupational licenses is somebody saying I got wronged by some
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  scam artist. I bought snake oil from the wrong salesman.
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  And I want somebody to do something about it. And
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  it just so happens somebody's cousin was the Senate majority
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  leader or whatever, and the next thing, you know, there
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  are laws saying we'll fix all these people. We'll make
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  sure they have to have a government license to sell
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  snake oil on the street corner. Did you find that
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  most of these things have a root somewhere around there
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  where I think it's the Michigan. Michigan Law Department issues
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  its Warning Labels report every year, and with it comes
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  the case law that preceded that warning label, like some
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  lawsuit about a baby. You know, you have to have
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  a warning label saying you can't put a baby, you know,
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  don't fold up your stroller with the baby in it,
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  and that kind of thing, because apparently it happened. And
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  so were these occupational licenses mostly rooted in some case
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  of somebody feeling like they had been wronged and they
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  wanted some recompense in the state, needed to find a
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  way to cover their behind in it.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So you see, you see that a lot where
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  somebody was wronged or somebody harm was caused. Let's say that, okay,
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  And as as a way to prevent future harm. We
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  have these licenses put in place. We also have kind
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  of a provlactic type measure when it comes to these
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  is well, someone could cause harm, and then you worry
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  about straw man arguments of like what about all those
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  evil doers who wish to become massage therapists. We want
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  to we want to stop them before they get a
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  chance to uh. But then also, unfortunately, we actually have
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  some some economic history here where some of these laws
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  date back to the Jim Crow era and we're actually
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  meant to intentionally be exclusionary towards minorities. So any of
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  our barber laws through the South, through Virginia, North and
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  South Carolina, Alabama where I'm located, barber licensure was meant
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  to exclude the African American community. You couldn't tell someone
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  they couldn't be a barber for being African American, but
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  a school could deny someone entry. So if you make
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  it required that you have to go to barber school
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  to get a barber license, and the barber school can
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  prevent African Americans from entering because we're allowed to segregate,
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  then well we can prevent African Americans from becoming barbers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's interesting you start to tie
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  that with some of the laws that existed during the
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  Jim Crow era in places like Virginia. A famous case
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  before the Supreme Court where young lady had been on
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  public assistance because she couldn't find a job, and she
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  lived in Charlottesville, our flagship city, and so they were
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  going to sterilize her because she and her mother and
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  HER's mother had all been on public assistance. So the
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  Supreme Court ruling, said Oliver Wendell Holmes ruling, was three
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  generations of imbeciles were enough, and they wanted to stop
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  the family from breeding. But it really wasn't their fault.
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  It was the setup of the economy because they couldn't
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  get a job, so they needed public assistance. So therefore
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  we could do this kind of backdoor eugenics. It really
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  got chilling, you know. In the thirties and forties, it
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  was the Virginia Act for Sterilization, and it was on
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  the books. Actually didn't come off the books until nineteen
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  eighty nine when a delegate from Charlottesville said, you know,
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  this is still state law. I think we should repeal this.
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  So you can see that kind of dark. You know,
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  it's amazing how bright white sheets can make such a
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  dark place underneath them. Noah, And so these sometimes go
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  all the way back to trying to be exclusionary. But
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  now into the modern time, do we see things like
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  our certificates of public need in the medical care industry
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  being exclusionary almost in a protectionist sort of way.
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  Speaker 11: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, we could have a whole conversation on certificate of
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  need laws. When you can have your competitor's veto your
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  ability to expand your practice, I mean both in the
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  occupational licensing space and in the medical space with things
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  like certificate of need, that creates some really poor incentives.
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  So yeah, we absolutely do see some exclusionary In twenty thirteen,
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  the North Carolina Dental Association actually had a case go
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  all the way to the Supreme Court because they deemed
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  that teeth whitening was a dental procedure.
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  Speaker 3: No, I can see how that goes. That'll crimp your
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  We're visiting with Professor Noah Trudeau from the Archbridge Institute
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  at Troy College. And uh so, before we get into
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  the rankings, because that's always fun. You know, it's like
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  who's number one? Although I'm scratching my head because according
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  to your map, organ is number one. You know, I'm
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  not sure how that worked, But tell us how you did?
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  Uh this? These rankings of states that make you get
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  a license to do so much?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So the way we do this one it's a
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  very it's a very complicated landscape. States get decided what
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  any occupation is named and how that occupation is defined.
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  So one thing we do is we look at two
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  hundred and fifty four occupations attempting to and then we
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  attempt to say does the state license this occupational title?
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  And if they license it under slightly a different title,
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  like you could call a massage therapist a mass SEUs.
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  Most people have switched to the massage therapists to nomenclature.
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  But we try and determine if somebody has a specific
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  license for that job title, or if you're going to
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  do that job, would you have to get a license
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  titled something completely different. So the case there is, in
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  occupation and you can get a license for But if
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  in that case, Alabama has a license that you have
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  to get, it's just not an acupuncturist license.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of comments that, and we see how many people
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  license or have to have a license for that, we
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  call them you need like actual licenses, we call that license.
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  And if you have to get some sort of license
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  to do that job, we call it a barrier because
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  you still have to do something, it's just not called that.
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  So that comes into place a lot in trades as well,
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  things like electrician. Some states have an electrician license. Some
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  states have eighteen electrician licenses. Right, they debated up by subspecialty.
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  an electrician license. But if you are going to do
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  interior electricity the interior electrician license, you're still not able
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  to just say, oh, no, I'm just an electrician. I
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  don't need the license. So we we try and qualify that.
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  Speaker 3: Way, and that all kind of goes into a mathematic
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  equation and somewhere along the line of a final score
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  is determined.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we normalize it to a zero to ten score,
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  ten being the state with the highest restrictive number and
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  zero being the lowest. So our highest restrictive state this
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  year was Oregon. They get ranked at ten. Our lowest
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  restrictive state was Kansas. They get ranked at zero. And
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  everybody is going to fall somewhere between those two.
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  Speaker 3: So I was reading your map wrong because I was
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  saving that question is how has Oregon become number one?
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  And now I see why it's I'm reading it backwards
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  that it's it is so Kansas is the least restrictive
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  and Oregon is the most restrictive. If I'm understanding, we.
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  Speaker 4: Rank being number one is not what you want. And
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  when it comes to.
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  Speaker 3: Art, so Virginia's rank and I'm going to say it
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  now spoilers, Virginia's rank of fourteen is not good, then
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  that is correct.
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  Speaker 4: That is in our upper our second quintile. That is
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  getting close to the top.
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  Speaker 3: So what do we have to do? I mean it
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  sounds like you know you were talking about, well you
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  have to get an electricians license, and then you have
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  to get sub licenses for all the different things you
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  want to do.
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  Speaker 1: Within that.
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  Speaker 3: So I can see that being maddening and expensive for
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  a contractor or somebody like that. What are the suggestions?
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  What does Kansas do so well that Virginia could learn from.
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  Speaker 4: So in economics, we have a thing called past dependency.
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  You don't just get where you are immediately. You get
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  there after a lot of steps. So Virginia has been
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  around a long time since the beginning, and this isn't
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  something that happened overnight.
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  Speaker 7: Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't decide yesterday we should license however many occupations.
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  I've got the list here, one hundred and sixty eight occupations.
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  They didn't decide that this past administration. We got here
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  over time. So one of the best things Virginia can
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  do is when something comes up and somebody says, maybe
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  we need to license this occupation, to look at it
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  realistically and say, what are the actual costs that are
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  going to come with this, How much restrictive, how how
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  restrictive is this going to be? What is going who
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  is this going to prevent from doing this? And is
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  that actually worth the harm that might be prevented. So
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  when it comes to something like hair braiding, the answer
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  is likely no, Maybe we don't need to license hair braiders.
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  When it comes to something like barbers, maybe not as well.
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  Or go an alternative route to ensure quality. You could
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  do private certification, you can do you could do public
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  sort of optional certification, and that's a sign of quality
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  and we can let the market work in that space.
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  So that's one step. Another step is this universal licensing transition.
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  Now Virginia's already taken this, so that's a good step.
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  But again we as we talked about, that's not going
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  to help new people. It's only going to help people
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  that want to move to Virginia. So Virgina's taken one
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  good step. Maybe going forward, one thing we can also
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  do is sunset review and look at what we have
• 34:28
  and see if it's still necessary. So if you have
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  licensed carriage drivers, I don't know if that's something that's
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  not on our list. But if you have something that's
• 34:36
  a little outdated and maybe not applicable anymore, like roll
• 34:41
  it back, feel okay to do away with some regulation.
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  It isn't that bad, we tell people. So I've talked
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  with state legislators. It's so much easier to stop a
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  license getting put in place than take it away once
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  it's in place. So the best thing you can do
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  is look forward and try and not frivolously place regulation
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  in place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it, Noah, doctor Trudeau. There are no
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  relation to the Canadians, but I appreciate it. The true
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  Dah family can get in you. Well. But the idea,
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  and I was just looking at the rankings New York.
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  New York is forty seventh. That's near the top of
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  this and so some stunning places that you wouldn't expect
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  to get out of the way. I like that idea.
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  If the state wants to give you a sticker, like
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  a us DA sticker, that's another thing. But again, you
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  can read his stuff at Archbridge and it's the arch
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  Bridge Academy and his stage occupation. Really, I thought Virginia
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  was killing it I said, oh, we're fourteenth. This is great,
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  hang on a second here, something's hinky about all of
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  four two one seven, and reactions got so much going
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  in the human inclination, I've got to do something. You know,
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• 37:20
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• 37:33
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  Speaker 3: Hi, you re joining us on our tedsday adventures. Whack
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  master field guy into that H four three four eight
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  eight two four two one seven last call UH, And
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  and hit send. That's cool. I get it. So please
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  all there on President Trump's Oval Office address a couple
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  agree with you. Donald Trump uses the Oval Office better
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  than any president I can remember. These daily briefings in
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  Speaker 22: Far too long, Americans have been forced to put up
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  to prey on innocent people, really very very innocent people.
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  Speaker 3: You know. In some cases, the press that was covering
• 46:48
  the president's press conference, this is the first time they've
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  even covered this story.
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  Speaker 22: For the magnificent future in this country, and now she's dead.
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  Was ordered by a deranged monster who was roaming free
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  after fourteen prior arrests.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, people are saying, oh, that's a
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  racist statement, it.
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  Speaker 22: Was violent reports vendors to continue spreading destruction and death
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  throughout our country. We have to respond with force and strength.
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  We have to be vicious just like they are.
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  Speaker 3: And this email came in from that video. Danny said, Joe,
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  wasn't it your own statements regarding Virginia's act of sterilization?
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  If somebody has been arrested fourteen times, that proves what
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  that he doesn't go along with the dogma of the society,
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  that he doesn't live the way society wants him to live.
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  I've looked into the sem of his arrests are simply
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  for behaving in ways that the government of Charlotte and
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  North Carolina don't agree with, like drug possession. Isn't this
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  a racist story that he wants to live a different
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  way than everyone else and we start arresting him. Isn't
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  this just what the Soviet Union did? Well, stand back
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  and let the reactions come in. But here's my point
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  on what you're saying Danny, and I get what you're
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  I see the logic tree that you're employing on this.
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  But societies have to have a rule book. Now, if
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  you're laying on the couch eating ho hose all day,
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  that's on you. My problem is is now the government
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  insists that I pay taxes to pay for your medicine.
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  And this is what my friends on the left don't
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  understand I don't think is you can do whatever you
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  want as long as it doesn't infringe on my rights.
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  And my rights include my right to hold on to
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  my property aka my tax revenue. If you want the
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  government to pay to take care of you, then I
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  have some say in it. And society does have norms.
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  On a grand or more abstract we agree on these norms.
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  And one of the things that Left tried to spitball
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  about six eight months ago was the idea of democratic capitalism.
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  This was the phrase that was going to pay in
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  the twenty twenty four congressional races. Oh, I'm in favor
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  of democratic capitalism, so they could say capitalism even though
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  they didn't mean it. If you ever wondered what democratic capitalism,
• 49:42
  Danny or whoever, go to a planning Commission meeting where
• 49:46
  they don't want something to happen. Maybe they don't want
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  another hotel, or maybe they don't want a food truck.
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  We just had to vote in one of our cities, Harrisonburg. Harrisonburg, Virginia,
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  had to get an Act of city Council in order
• 50:06
  for somebody to pull a food truck up into the
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  parking lot of a gas station because of where the
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  gas station was on what they call an entrance corridor.
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  In Virginia, you're allowed to anoint certain roads with entrance
• 50:20
  corridor status. It's like the Croton on Hudson. Where does
• 50:25
  the town get off telling a guy he can't have
• 50:29
  a Trump flag? How they pass an ordinance usually eight
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  or nine o'clock at night on a Tuesday, saying we
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  are we're gonna have an entrance corner where entrance corridor
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  beautification and economic development plan and everyone says, oh yay.
• 50:45
  And then next thing you know, they're able to tell
• 50:47
  you what color your shutters are, or what type of
• 50:53
  lawn ornament you can have, or if you can have
• 50:57
  a political sign, and you're like, oh, when did they happened?
• 51:01
  This is Sherry writes in I love the phrase the
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  hoarder house of law. That's exactly what it is. We
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  keep piling laws up so that if you have AI
• 51:12
  and you can search through this pile, this hoarder's house
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  of laws, you can find something to use against someone else.
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  I guarantee it. It's out there and you'll find it
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  if you. And now we have AI, which is for
• 51:26
  all of its warts and all of its problems and
• 51:28
  chat g TP and how it just mirrors whatever we
• 51:32
  say online, which is not good. That you can task
• 51:40
  your AI search engine to go through the morass of
• 51:45
  laws and find something to use against somebody. It's the
• 51:48
  nightmare scenario at the end of Three Felonies a Day,
• 51:52
  the book by Harvey Silverglade. But you see it happening
• 51:58
  in real time and front of us. But that's how
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  they you'd think you'd have this hoarder house of law.
• 52:05
  The people like the murderer in Charlotte, or the murderer
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  in Auburn, or any number of the murderers that occurred
• 52:13
  in the last twelve hours would not be allowed to
• 52:17
  be released. But because like we said earlier, it's like
• 52:21
  Stalin said, only instead of voting, it's about jurisprudence. It's
• 52:26
  not who rights the laws, it's who enforces the laws,
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  and they get to decide what they're going to do.
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  So it's time for us to roll out. Got a
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  bunch of stuff today. Speaking engagements tomorrow September eleventh until tenmorrow.
• 52:44
  So long and thanks for all the fish.
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