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O'Brien & Doug Ep148 [May 4, 2023 Massively Mediocre] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_10: Hello, children.
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  SPEAKER_10: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by MoserMultimedia.com.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_10: KMH Music in Prescott, Maine.
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  SPEAKER_10: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine.
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  SPEAKER_04: And my cousin.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're the only show presently in production that cares enough about you, the North American home viewer, to answer our viewer mail on the air.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_05: Doesn't 60 Minutes do that?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, but screw those guys.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_10: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_10: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_07: Lift with both hands.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_07: Duh.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_07: That should be pretty obvious.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_07: Stop reading stuff in the room.
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  SPEAKER_07: Just say your name.
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  SPEAKER_07: Introduce yourself.
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  SPEAKER_07: I'm Belfast Doug.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_07: Where did that come from?
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  SPEAKER_07: Irish Mike.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_07: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_07: I wanted to be Belfast Doug.
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  SPEAKER_10: There's a long story behind that, and uh we'll get to that.
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  SPEAKER_10: We're not gonna tell that one right now.
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  SPEAKER_10: We'll get to that another time.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_07: Uh how's it going?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_07: Pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_07: I wanna I wanna thank the Boston Bruins for uh nothing.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_07: Thank you, thank you, thank you for such a I mean it just I don't know, man.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: They have an amazing season, they break the all-time wins record for a single season, the most points, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_07: And then they in the first round of the playoffs.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: To Florida.
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  SPEAKER_07: They don't even have ice in Florida.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_07: Why do they have two hockey teams?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_07: Explain that one to me.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_07: Because it's Florida.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_10: They have to have one of everything.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_10: Um but the me the Leafs didn't the Leafs made it.
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  SPEAKER_10: Made it for the first time in Since 2002 or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Something like that.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: But they haven't won the Cups in the 67.
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  SPEAKER_09: So there's really no hope.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so that that's Bob's team.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_07: So I know.
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  SPEAKER_07: Good for you, Bob.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: At least your guys made it to the second round.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_07: Jeez.
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  SPEAKER_07: I was so disappointed, man.
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  SPEAKER_07: But anyway.
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  SPEAKER_10: As as most New England people were.
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  SPEAKER_07: Well, that's the thing with New England sports.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, it's just like, you know, it was like when the Patriots had the uh undefeated season, then they lose the Super Bowl.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_07: But the frigg guys.
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  SPEAKER_07: It always works that way.
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  SPEAKER_07: It doesn't all the stuff you did during the season doesn't mean crap if you don't make take home the championship.
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  SPEAKER_07: To me.
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  SPEAKER_07: I think they should just take all away all those records.
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  SPEAKER_07: Give them to somebody else.
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  SPEAKER_07: Give them to somebody that deserves them.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, that's that's the s makes about the same amount of sense, which I think a lot, because like when uh an NBA player who's paid millions and millions of dollars misses a foul shot, they should get find.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_07: You owe us five bucks.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_07: You you owe us$47,000 or missed foul shots.
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  SPEAKER_10: You're a professional athlete.
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  SPEAKER_10: You are at the top of the game uh uh from anybody in the entire world, and you get paid millions and millions and millions of dollars.
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  SPEAKER_10: You miss a foul shot, you're fired.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, because it's not like anybody's blocking you.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, I can see it if somebody you're they're playing D or whatever, but you A foul shot, dude.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, little I've seen little kids do foul shots.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know?
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: I mean, we're talking like three, four-year-olds.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right?
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  SPEAKER_07: You know?
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_10: Do better.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh so this is episode 148.
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  SPEAKER_10: 148.
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  SPEAKER_10: 148.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh, a couple of things I want to talk about, and one of the things is I have a bone to pick with Ultimate Classic Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: Actually, no.
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  SPEAKER_10: No, not Ultimate Classic Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because I think they got ripped off.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because, you know, we well no.
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  SPEAKER_10: We whenever we talk about stuff and and we source it to Ultimate Classic Rock, we always say, we always credit them.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_10: You know, I shouldn't say always, most of the time.
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  SPEAKER_10: If we forget, we forget.
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  SPEAKER_10: But we try to always say where we're getting our information.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um, and sometimes we get our information from other other websites.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Other other other things.
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  SPEAKER_10: Society of Rock, what was it, Rock Pasta or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_10: That's one of th that's one of the things.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um so anyway, I found this story on first I saw this story on Society of Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: So I'm reading it, and uh, I said, I'm we'd talk about this on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_10: That'll be that'll be kind of a neat thing to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_10: And then I'm looking through Ultimate Classic Rock, and they have the same story.
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  SPEAKER_10: Word for word?
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, so so I want to just read you here here is the let's see.
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  SPEAKER_10: Let's read the first one I found first.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: This is a society of rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: Society of rock, and it's why these 12 rock hits were hated by fans.
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  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: This will be interesting.
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  SPEAKER_10: And some of these you'll you'll agree with.
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  SPEAKER_10: But I just want to read Is Nickelback on there?
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  SPEAKER_10: No.
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  SPEAKER_10: Didn't make the list.
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  SPEAKER_07: It should be the entire list.
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  SPEAKER_07: It's like these 12,000 Nickelback songs we everybody hates.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so I want to read the first couple paragraphs from each of these articles.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so here's the Society of Rock article.
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  SPEAKER_10: And I tend to believe that they ripped off Ultimate Classic Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: But but you know, I could be wrong.
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  SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_07: But Ultimate Rock Clack rip them off?
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: But anyway, so so here it is.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh and it doesn't even say this Society of Rock and and I don't mean to throw Society of Rock under the bus because we do glean them for for information for information, but there's no author on this.
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  SPEAKER_10: There's no author.
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  SPEAKER_10: All right.
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  SPEAKER_07: Uh so it says That's true, they never list an author on their because we've done several stories from the never an author.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: So it says investing significant emotional energy in someone increases the likelihood of being deeply let down by them.
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  SPEAKER_10: Consider being a devoted Billy Joel fan in 1989.
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  SPEAKER_10: When a local DJ announced the premiere of a new Billy Joel song.
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  SPEAKER_10: The anticipation builds within you, as it has been three long years since his last album release, and you crave new music from him like air, water, and food.
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  SPEAKER_10: Alright, let me stop right there.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Now I'm gonna go to Ultimate Classic Rocks.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um their title is Twelve Times Fans Hated Their Favorite Band's Big Hits.
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  SPEAKER_10: Hold on.
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  SPEAKER_10: So here's the first paragraph.
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  SPEAKER_10: Those in whom we invest so much of our emotional capital have the greatest capacity to disappoint us.
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  SPEAKER_10: Imagine being a Billy Joel fan in 1989 when the local DJ announced there was a new Billy Joel song he was going to play, and you, the Billy Joel fan, felt the anticipation rise within you.
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  SPEAKER_10: It had been three years since the bridge, and you needed some new music from him, like you needed air, like you needed water, like you needed food.
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  SPEAKER_07: It sounds like Society of Rock is ripping off ultimate because the ultimate classic rock one sounds much more professional.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well written.
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  SPEAKER_07: And the other one's just like, uh, let's say this a different way.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: More simplistically.
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  SPEAKER_07: But it would but it's way too close.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's very, very close.
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  SPEAKER_07: Even the titles are super similar.
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  SPEAKER_10: So let me go back to uh Society of Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: As the DJ plays the record, the first words you hear from your musical idol are a mere recitation of historical figures and events.
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  SPEAKER_10: The disappointment that follows is intense and enduring.
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  SPEAKER_10: Our favorite artists bring us immense joy, but they also possess the ability to cause us the greatest pain.
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  SPEAKER_07: No, that was Society of Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: That was that was Society of Rock.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_10: And the DJ played the record, and the first words you hear from your hero were Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, South Pacific, Walter Wilch, and Jodimaggio.
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  SPEAKER_10: A recitation, not a song.
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  SPEAKER_10: The disappointment was deep and abiding.
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  SPEAKER_10: Our favorite artists give us much pleasure, but they're also the ones that can hurt us the most.
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  unknown: Wow.
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  unknown: I know.
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  SPEAKER_07: This is that maybe that's society of rock's whole thing.
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  SPEAKER_07: They're just ripping off ultimate that's our whole Well, to a lesser degree, or to a to a in a different way, we are too.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean, because we we come in here and we look at we look at these these sites and it's like that's a great topic.
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  SPEAKER_10: Let's talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_10: Sometimes we read directly from the website, but we always give them credit.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_07: We're always giving them credit.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: We're not like, oh, this is we came up with this ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because it's a because everybody knows that we're not that smart.
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  SPEAKER_10: It's an interesting topic, right?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_10: So anyway, I just thought that was That's so funny.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_10: So I'm gonna go back to I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna do the ultimate ultimate classic robot.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was gonna say, let's do that one, because that's way better.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: So um the first one, and this is this is some of these I agree with, some of them I don't.
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  SPEAKER_10: Most of them I don't.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_10: Um this one I think are they in some sort of order or they're just listed.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_10: No, they're just listed.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um the first one the band hates.
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  SPEAKER_10: So I don't know if the fans hate it as much.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because I like it.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_10: Let's just put it that way.
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  SPEAKER_10: I I I like this song.
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  SPEAKER_10: It's not your typical song from this band, but uh Cheap Trick's the Flame.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, the band has said they hated it.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, because they had to go outside to outside riders.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: You know.
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  SPEAKER_10: And 'cause it because their career the the the trajectory of Cheap Trick had kind of fallen flat at that point.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_10: And they needed some new life.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_10: So they went to outside riders and they got this one song.
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  SPEAKER_10: I don't think that I think it was only the one song.
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  SPEAKER_10: And it was a biggest single of their entire career.
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  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I like that song.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_10: I do.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean it's a bad it's a ballad.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_07: It's a but it's it's not a typical Cheap Trick song.
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  SPEAKER_10: It's a song they play every time they they take the stage.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh but they're saying those who are partial to those energetic rock songs and who did not have teenage crushes in 1988 might go for the beer vendor when Cheap Trick play The Flame.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_10: Uh they'd be in good company.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_10: Um back in the early 90s, grunge bands like Nirvana were claiming Cheap Trick is one of their forebears.
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  SPEAKER_10: The band's record company was looking for more hits like The Flame.
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  SPEAKER_10: All those bands would say, We love Cheap Trick except the stuff they're doing now.
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  SPEAKER_10: That was the bass player Tom Peterson said said that to Rolling Stone.
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  SPEAKER_10: So I you know, I like that song.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_07: Um It sounds like more the band hates it than fans hate it.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: And I don't know that the band hates it.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_07: I think they just hate the way they actually didn't write it.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_07: Um, I get that.
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  SPEAKER_10: And maybe they hate it.
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  SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_10: Maybe, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_07: But but I I can imagine that when you have to play it every time, you get tired of it.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: So and also, we could be partial to it because it's nostalgic for us.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_10: Do you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because it was like 88, 89.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we were in high school.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so yeah, so touching me, breathing on my skin.
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  SPEAKER_10: And it is kind of, I mean, the lyrics are kind of cheap trickers are are not known for yeah, it's it's campy.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: You know, it's a it's a it's a teenage crush.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Song, you know what I mean?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_07: But it's great.
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  SPEAKER_07: I I love the music.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_07: I do too.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: And the and the chorus is big and catchy.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_10: You know?
• 11:53
  unknown: Wherever you go, I'll be with you.
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_07: When I practice on the kit, yeah.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_07: This is this is one of the songs I practice too.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_07: I listen to and I play along to.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't know that.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_07: Just just because it's it's it's easy and it's a good warm-up.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I suppose.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's so.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_07: That's probably true.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh okay, so this one I can understand, although I don't hate this song.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_10: Um I'll just play it for you.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_10: This is obviously a video, so there's probably some.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_07: It's REM.
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  SPEAKER_07: It is.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_07: Shiny Happy People.
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  SPEAKER_07: It is.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_07: I hate this song.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_07: Do you really?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_07: I absolutely freaking hate this song.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_07: I like REM.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_07: Hate this song.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_07: Every time this song plays, I wanna punch a puppy.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_07: Because I am not a shiny, happy person.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_07: And I don't like Michael Stipe trying to make me into a shiny, happy person.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_07: Give me a puppy, I'm gonna punch it.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_10: So puncher.
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  SPEAKER_10: So perhaps the strangest thing a band like REM could do was to write a sing-along song like Shiny Happy People.
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  SPEAKER_10: Michael Stipe blames it all on his bandmates.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_10: He said, It's all their fault.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_10: He said, The guys would give me pieces of music that were so ebulent and bubblegum, he told the son, that I'd be like, okay, I accept your challenge and I raise you.
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  SPEAKER_10: He hearkened back to his earliest record-buying days when he collected 45 RPM singles by the Archies and the Monkeys, and he channeled that into a song about little more than being happy.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_10: And it was a hit, striking the bottom rung of the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_07: Didn't he have the girls from uh B52?
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right there.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_10: That's them.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_10: But you can see it now.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, it is very archies 60s and yeah.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_07: Bubblegum pop.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_07: Can you see it?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_10: And that may be why I like it, because I like the Archies.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_07: I just can't stand this song, man.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_07: Just can't stand it.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_07: I hate it so much.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_07: Um not as much as I hate Nipko back, but I hate it.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_10: Uh the next one, I can see why people might be annoyed with it, but again, it's nostalgia for us.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, and I like the song, even though um he he didn't think the guy who wrote it didn't think it was really that good to begin with.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_10: Um but people you know, a lot of people apparently don't like this song.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, I love this song.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_10: I know, right?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_10: He said he wrote it for himself, Billy Joel.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I think he did it as a history term paper.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I I No, I don't think that's true.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_07: I think you're Okay, your assignment is to write write in 50 years worth of history into a short paragraph.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_10: He says, he said most of the mail he gets about that song comes from teachers who have said this is the greatest teaching tool to come down the pike since Tessame Street, which means a lot to me since I once wanted to be a history teacher.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_10: But I wish people could understand that I did not write that song to be a hit.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_10: I wrote that one for me.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_10: Umodically, it's almost like a dentist drill.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_07: Well, it's more like it's more like he's he's rapping.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_07: There's a melody to it, right?
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_07: It's like a freestyle rap almost.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but but there is melody to it, yeah.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_07: But there's melody to a lot of rap songs too, anyway.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_07: So I've always thought of it more as like a rap song.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_10: To be honest with you.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_10: I agree.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_10: I agree with that.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_07: Um, so I think it I think I think it's a challenge to learn the words.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it is.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_10: Yep, it is.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_10: And if you can, that's impressive.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_10: And I I get like I think I get a whole verse, and then I look them up and I'm singing like the wrong words.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_10: I mean it's that's more fun.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_07: It's like uh what's her face from uh Parks and Rick?
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_07: The girl in the polar?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_07: Amy.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_07: She does she's she's trying to tick off Ron.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_07: So she starts singing this song and she's just making up lyrics, you know, what she thinks the lyrics are, and it's hysterical.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_07: It's so funny.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_07: I have to look that one up.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, it's it's so funny.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_10: Um alright, so this one I don't agree with.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_10: And again, I'm I'm probably not agreeing with it because it's nostalgic for me.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_10: I like this song.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_10: I know there's a lot of people that don't like this era of the band.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_10: Um, but I come from this era.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_10: So I'm a little partial to it.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_10: Um it's uh if my internet would work.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_10: And I actually Oh, there it goes.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_10: It's Heart.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_10: These Dreams.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_10: Ah, yeah.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_10: And this is the one that Nancy Wilson is singing.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_10: Right, yes.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_10: Um, or one of one of the ones that Nancy sings.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_10: This is the band whose singer cut out the heart of a sleazy record executive in Barracuda and made him watch it still beating as it expired.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_07: Um Barracuda is such a great song.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_10: I know.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_10: This band hit number one by letting the singer's sister take lead vocals as it rolled out a snoozy synthic song co-written by the guy who wrote Starship's We Built the City.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_10: Really?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, well, which would be Martin Page, I think.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, okay.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_10: Um Amazon comp commentator Clear Channel Sucks said this is very tacky by a rock band and it sure chose it.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_10: Zero stars on these dreams.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_10: They they're calling this song cringe worthy.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_07: I I wouldn't go cringe worthy.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_07: I wouldn't either different for heart.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_07: Of course.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_07: I will give them that.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_10: But I mean the the real that whole era was different for heart.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_10: I mean the bad animals era.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_07: But if you listen to the just the singing part, it's very soothing.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_07: Of course.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_07: And I think that's the way it's meant to be.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_10: Well, if you if you lo watch the video, Nancy Wilson is on stage with smoke and everything, and she's playing this uh kick-ass electric guitar.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, of course.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_10: There's just Nancy Wilson.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_10: There's no guitar in the song.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_10: It's all synthesized.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, there's guitar in the song, but I mean it's I think it's just I think the guitar is just a prop in the video.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_07: Just to, you know, for her to something.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_10: Because she's not the least, she's the guitar player.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_10: But the guitar is not a prop for heart.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_10: Do you know what I mean?
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_10: Like, think of Barraconi.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_10: I think it's for her.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_10: Think of Magic Man, think of all the early heart songs where they rock.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_10: Right?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_10: And then you have this.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_10: I can I'm trying.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_07: I think it's just like a com it's like a security blanket.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_07: You know, Nancy, we're gonna put you're gonna you're gonna sing this song.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I don't I'm not a the lead singer.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_07: Let me have my guitar, even though there's no guitar in it, nobody will notice.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_07: It's the 80s.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_10: But see, and again, I I I think this is nostalgic for me because this is the era that I grew up in.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, this is not one of my favorite songs, but I do like it.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_07: You know, if I I'm if I'm listening to hard, I'm listening to Barracuda.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_07: You know, I'm listening to that, you know, the rockin' hard stuff.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_10: So I don't think this is cringe worthy, though.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_10: I wouldn't use that.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_07: No, it's definitely not cringe worthy.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_07: I wouldn't use I wouldn't use that word.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_07: You want cringe worthy.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_07: Listen to a common crossing song.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_04: That's cringe.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_07: I wrote all those convoys.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_10: They're all cringe worthy.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_10: So this one worthy of cringe.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_10: This one, um it's an embarrassment to listen to, and I hope all the people that pushed it to number one are focused, are forced to listen to it for their in t eternity.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_10: That's what uh one Amazon customer said.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it is colour crossing then.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_07: Whoa, that's a little harsh.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_10: I never I never understood why this song was so popular and why so many other really great songs by this artist were forgotten.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_10: Um and we've actually done this song before.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_10: Of course we have.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_10: Um so I'll just play it and you'll I'm sure you'll remember.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody sings this one.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: I wanna hear everybody join in.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: When I was a little bigger.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, grandmother bought me a kid.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we haven't done this song for a while, man.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, this is Chuck Berry and my dingling.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_10: My dingling, yeah.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_08: She said it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling-o.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_07: Again, it's a joke.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_07: It is a joke.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, you gotta take it as a joke.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_07: It's just a funny song.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and I'll be honest with you.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_10: That's why I always liked it.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_10: Because it's just a it's just a funny song.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_10: Why did we play it?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_10: Because people loved it.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_10: People absolutely love that song.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_10: So I don't know that they know what they're talking about because I maybe.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_10: It's probably Gen Z.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_10: Chuck Berry fans know him for Maybelline and Johnny be good and stuff like that.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_10: So this was obviously different than that.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it was our joke.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_07: It's a funny song, man.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_07: It was a joke.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_07: Jeez, come on, lighten up, people.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_10: Um This one I can understand why people didn't like it.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_10: I, however, do like it.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_10: Um I guess I'm not a regular rock fan.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_10: I do not.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_10: It's the disco era, kiss.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, yeah.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_07: Uh uh, I can't the name escapes me.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_07: I was made for loving you guys.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_10: Everything Paul Stanley does, though, I just and the video is just I can't believe I was scared of these guys when I was a kid.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_07: I get it.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_07: Especially Gene Simmons.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_07: He's kind of imposing.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_07: The rest of them are kind of like, eh, whatever, but Gene Simmons is actually kind of scary.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, a little bit.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_10: So this had a great melody.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_10: The chorus, obviously it's repetitive, but it's the words are typical.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_07: Well, to be honest with you, Kiss is not your deep keep it simple, stupid.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right?
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_07: That's what KISS stands for.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_07: It's not, you know, kids and Satan's uh service or whatever people thought, you know, back in the days, but um Yeah, the chorus.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_07: It's a great chorus.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_10: And I almost think this was yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_07: It's melodic.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_10: So we gotta give a little bit of credit to this song because it was written.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_10: But that's KISS is not a deep thinking band.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_10: Well, they didn't write it.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, they didn't write it?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_10: They didn't write it.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_10: You know who wrote it?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_10: Who wrote it?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_10: The same guy that wrote Livin' on a Prayer, Desmond Child.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_07: Ah, well, okay.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_07: It makes much more sense now.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_07: It's just, it's just a it's it's ear candy.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, exactly.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_10: That's exactly what it is.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_07: And that's all KISS ever was is an ear candy band.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_07: They just put on a great show.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_07: It's for the fans.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, that's one thing you can say about KISS.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_07: KISS has always been a band for the people.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_07: They put on a great show.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_07: It doesn't matter if you like KISS or not, you're gonna be impressed by their show.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_10: I've yet to see a Kiss show.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_07: I've never seen a KISS show either.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_07: But they are But they are uh they are a band of the people.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_07: They they they come and they put on a great show for you.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_10: No question.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_10: Yep, no question.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_07: Give them credit, man.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_10: Uh on this next one, a last ditch trip up the singles chart for the once mighty boys of summer.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_06: Eagles.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_06: Nope.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_06: No, not the eagles.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_10: You're thinking of Don Hanley's Boys of Summer?
• 24:02
  unknown: Yeah.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_10: This one right here.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, Beach Boys.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_10: It is.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_07: Which one though?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_07: The Kokomo?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_10: Last last ditch effort to go up the charts.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_10: Of course, my internet's not working.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, there it is.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_05: You know all the words.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_07: You know all the words, man.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_07: And that's exactly what this song is meant to do.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_07: It's just a sing along.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_10: It's fun.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_10: It's a fun song.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_10: It's fun.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_10: No, there's nothing wrong with it.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_10: Um it was a hit, supposedly, because it was tied to the Tom Cruise movie Cocktail.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_10: And John Stamos played the Bongles with the Beach Boys.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_10: This was around the time that they came up here.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_10: Right?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_10: And they played up at the forum, and John Stamos.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_07: I wasn't around then.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_10: John Stamos was with them, and he was dating Paula Abdul at the time.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_10: She was with them too.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_10: Really?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_10: I was there with a radio station.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's catchy.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_07: Come on, man.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_07: You can't help but sing along, man.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_07: I'm sorry.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_07: This is ear candy.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_07: It's not it again, it's not my favorite Beach Boy song.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_07: But I like it.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_07: When it comes on, I sing along.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_07: Me too.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_07: I don't care.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_10: Me too.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_10: Speaking of Tom Cruise.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_07: You want to fight me?
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_07: Fight me.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_10: Speaking of Tom Cruise, you know that movie Cocktail?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_10: Where he uh tries something that's hard to do.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_10: Right?
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_10: Making the flipping of the bottles.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_10: He learns he learns a he learns something.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_10: An art form or a talent, or he learns something that it's hard to do.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_10: And then he loses his mojo.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_10: And he falls in love with a girl.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_10: And she gets his mojo back.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_10: And then I wonder how he did that.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_10: Well, listen, and then he conquered.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_10: Oh wait.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_10: No, wait.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe I'm thinking of Days of Thunder.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_10: Where he learns It's the same thing.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_10: Oh wait, no.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe I'm thinking of Top Gun.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_09: It's the same, it's a Tom Cruise movie formula.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_09: Somebody's A plus B equals C.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_10: I think I saw that on Instagram.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_10: It was a real.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_10: It was alright.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_10: No, no, it was a comedian.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_10: It was a comedian.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_10: He said that.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_10: I thought that was so much.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_07: That is a that's a yeah, that's formulary for uh Tom Cruise, man.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so this next one, I like this song.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_10: Um I didn't know the history of this song.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_10: Um let's see if I can.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_10: According to Fred Bronson's The Billboard Book of Number One Hits, this person was not the first choice to record this song.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Glenn Fry was actually the first choice to record this song.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_10: Uh but he mysteriously he didn't like the lyrics to it.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_10: And he mysteriously conveniently came down with laryngitis uh before he was supposed to record the song.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_10: So they got this guy.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_10: Uh uh he could he agreed to record the song if he could rewrite the lyrics.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_10: Because there was a lot of lyrics about working undercover.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_10: Um he didn't like them, so he threw them out.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_10: And but he kept he liked the chorus to the song.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_10: So it was produced by you know the producers of this it was tied to a movie.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_10: And so there's a lot of horns and things and stuff like that in the in synthesizers that you may not uh necessarily associate with this artist.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_10: You might, but it's from Beverly Hills Cop 2.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_10: This is Bob Seeger.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_10: Shakedown.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_10: Um I don't like the song.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_10: You don't like it at all?
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_10: Not even the chorus?
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_10: Not really.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_10: I dig the chorus.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_10: Actually, no, I dig this song.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_07: I like this song.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_07: Nah, I don't care for it.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_10: What is it about it you don't like?
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_10: Well, because you're not alone because apparently people hate this.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, I don't hate it, but I don't like it.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_07: It's lit in my pocket.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_07: I nothing this song.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_10: You nothing this song?
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_07: I really don't.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_10: I'm only gonna play it to the chorus.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's fine.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_07: But I like Bob Sticker's voice.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_10: He's got a great voice.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_10: And it it doesn't really sound like it it would be a Bob Sticker song.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_07: No, it doesn't that maybe that's why I don't really like careful.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_10: He actually uh He did not put it on his first greatest hits album.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_10: He put it on his second one.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I dig it.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_10: Um This one, I think I understand.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_10: There's a lot of people that like this next song.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_10: And by the way, then the name of this is Big Hits That Fans Hate.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_10: Um but there's a lot of people that like this song.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_10: Uh especially women.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_10: But this band, according to UltimateClassicRock.com, should be challenging Ted Nugent and Deep Purple to see who headlines the next all-day hard rock jam fest in the desert.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_10: Which desert?
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_10: Any desert, bring Black Oak, Arkansas, Mahogany Rush, and Sammy Hagar along, play all day and party all night.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_10: But they should not be recording Diane Warren songs.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_10: It's Aerosmith.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, that uh from uh Air Armageddon.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yes.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_10: It was their biggest hit.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_07: Is it really?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_10: I think it is.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_10: I think it is their biggest hit.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_10: Same thing with like Cheap Trick, remember?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_10: That's true, yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_10: Same thing with Cheap Trick.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_07: It's always the ballads, man.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_07: Chicks love the ballads.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_10: And they play this live.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, they just Aerosmith just announced um yesterday or today their farewell tour.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, of course.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_07: Everybody's doing a farewell tour.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_10: They're not gonna be touring anymore.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_10: They might do music.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, they might still do music.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_10: So we all know this one.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_07: I'm not even gonna play it because I've never heard the song before ever in my entire life.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, this one uh you might um disagree with.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_10: Uh so the band that launched, The Carpet Crawlers, Firth of Fifth, Squonk, and the seven part Supper's ready hit, The Big Time, the really big time, with stadiums and limos and very good catering.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_10: What?
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_10: Singing sh uh hold on.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_10: Uh let me just play it because apparently they really don't like this song, and I actually love this song.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_10: Again, I think it it's nostalgic though.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_10: This is from a video.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_10: So what you're hearing now is the video.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_04: I can direct videos, man.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_04: I can direct videos, it's no problem.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: Pal, lady, pal, pal.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: Come on, baby, give me all you got.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_07: Invisible touch.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, I love this song.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_07: This is a great song, man.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_10: He says, he says, not everybody dug it.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_10: Invisible touch represents the absolute nadir of Phil Collins' leadership of Genesis, wrote one Amazon reviewer.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_10: It's the definition of what singles are today.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_10: Lame.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_10: This is where it really gets to be Phil Collins featuring Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_10: I agree with that, actually.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_10: Um, aka Cheese.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_10: Um man, I hate this stupid album.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_10: Way too synthesized and the stupid lovey dovey romance songs.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_10: I once got beat up by InSync for real.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_10: Did y'all know that?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_07: Um, the reviewer got beat up by InSync?
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_10: Apparently, I don't even know what that means.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_07: That doesn't make any sense.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_10: No, but listen, the the time that this song came out, keyboards and synthesizers were in vogue.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_10: That was everything.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_07: Everything was on synthesizers and keyboards.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_07: It was.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_07: And there was a period in the 80s where nobody saw a guitar.
• 32:34
  unknown: Right.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_10: They just disappeared.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_10: It's true.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_10: It's true.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_10: But you know, and and they're saying that this is cheese and the romance and the lovey dovey and everything, right?
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_10: So listen.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_10: This went to number one.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_10: I think.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_10: Hold on.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_10: I want to make sure.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_10: Uh yes, it did.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_10: It went to number one.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_10: And do you know why it went to number one?
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_10: Women.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, women love this song.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, they love the lovey dovey, people.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry, I I love that album.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_10: I I do too.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_10: I like that.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_10: It is very synth.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_10: It's very synth-heavy.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it is?
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, this is the last one I'm gonna do because I think this one is going to um uh cause some stir.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_10: Um commentators on YouTube seem to dig this song, at least in retrospect, though tens of thousands gave it a thumbs down.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_10: Um Lord Ganja indicates that this song was when they sold out.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_07: Oh well, I'm gonna take the opinion of somebody who calls themselves Lord Ganja.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna take that one.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_07: Everything.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_10: The seventy-two thousand people who disliked it, I want to punch straight in the face.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_10: Uh this other one said.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_06: Are you gonna punch 72,000 people in the face?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_10: This song is made realistic, dude.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_10: This song is made for endless sex.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_10: Something uh that they've never considered before.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_10: So they're saying that this song is hated by fans.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_09: I disagree.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_07: I really has sex to this song.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_07: What are they talking about?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_10: But listen to this.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_10: Metallica played nothing else matters at just about every show.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_10: At some point between when they walk out on stage and two hours later, Kirk Hammett and James Hetfeld will play those arpeggios and begin the slog through the worst song the band ever recorded that's not on St.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_10: Anger.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_10: Or Lulu.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_10: Sometimes they encore with it.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_10: Why would they do that to their fans who they claim to love?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_10: We recall the first time we heard the song doubling over as if we'd been kicked in the stomach.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_10: Nothing else mattered except hitting the next track button on the CD player, which queued up wherever I may roam, enabling us to uncurl from our defensive position and enjoy music again.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_10: I love this song.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_07: I like this song.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's not again, it's not my favorite.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_07: Of course not, but it was definitely a departure for him.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and it was It was It's more like a fade to black.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_10: It was significant in making them who they are now.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_10: This and the unforgiven.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_10: Women love this song too.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_10: Exactly.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_10: Elton John said this is one of the greatest songs ever.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_10: And Elton John would know.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_07: And this has some great guitar in it.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, that that solo is probably one of the best Kirk Hammond solos ever.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_07: Amazing.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_10: So I just I I disagree with that.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_07: Well, it's when it's when people discovered that James Hetfield can actually sing.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_10: It's true.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_07: On the black album.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_07: Well, this song, really.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, he's not doing that.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_10: Well, isn't Unforgiven?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_10: He sings on that too, doesn't he?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_10: Or is it is it just this one?
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_07: It's more of a growl on Unforgiven, but this is this is more of a sweet, yeah, you know, body type thing.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 36:30
  unknown: Never came what they do.
• 36:35
  unknown: Never came on.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_10: I'm sorry.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_10: I love this song.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_07: It's a great song, man.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I don't I totally disagree.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_10: So let's see.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_10: The other thing I wanted to do is.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, we're done with that?
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_10: We're done with that.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, wow.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_10: We're moving on.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_10: And my tea's gone.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_10: Crap.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_10: Um crap tea.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_10: Crap T.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_10: I've got this other one from Rock Pasta.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_10: I wonder if they took it from uh Rock Pasta.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_10: From Ultimate Classic Rock.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_07: Rock Papska!
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_10: Rock Pasta! This is the ten greatest band titled rock songs.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_10: Some of these I didn't know, actually.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_10: So there's song titles.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_10: There's song titles, that is the band name.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_10: Can you guess any of them?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_07: What do you mean?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_07: They name the song after the band or the band after the song?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_10: Probably the band after the song.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_10: I'm assuming.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go into like I'm not gonna read anything from this one, but but uh I'll just play, you know, some of them and you'll be right back.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_10: It is black Sabbath.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_10: So, and there's this isn't in any order, but I and I knew about this one.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_10: I knew Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_10: Um I just want to play a little bit of it because it's cool.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_10: Uh one of the earliest bands to adopt this practice.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_10: Um, they released a self-titled song on their debut album in 1970.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_10: Uh remains one of the most recognizable songs in metal history.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 38:10
  unknown: Yeah.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_07: And it's evil, even not even people think it's an evil song.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's not.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_07: Listen to the lyrics, man.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_07: It's definitely it's far from evil.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_07: But we talked about that a couple weeks ago when we were talking about Black Sabbath and uh.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so there's Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_10: Uh any can you think of any other off the top of your head that have the names of the band as the song?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_10: Or the Yeah.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_10: I know one of them I would I would I know.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't know.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_10: Let's say there's two.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't know.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_10: I knew that one.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_10: Uh and I didn't know that one.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna play them all.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_10: I'll talk about them.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_10: Um Bad Religion.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, that's it.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't realize that they had There's a song Bad Religion.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I didn't realize that.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_10: I'll play just a little piece.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_09: It's one of their very early ones.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_09: Like from the early 80s.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_09: How could Hell Be Any Worse is from is the album it's from.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_09: It's only a minute and 49 seconds.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_09: That's true.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I I hadn't I had no idea that Bad Religion was there.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_07: Did you know?
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_07: The the lead singer, uh, and his name escapes me, Greg.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_10: Let's see if it's in here.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_10: Greg Graffin.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_07: He's written a couple books like on like existentialism and he's he's a really smart guy.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_10: Really?
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't know that.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_10: Uh hopefully this one doesn't have any profanity, but oh, this is uh uh body count.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_10: Wow, you're good.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_10: It is body count.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_07: Body count, body count.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_10: Bye, body count.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_07: I saw them in concert, man.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_07: Did I ever tell you that story?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_07: You did.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_07: Oh it was one of the greatest shows I've ever seen.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_10: I think it's funny that uh Ice T, this album Cop Killer.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_10: And how Ice T plays a Ice T plays a cop on TV.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I know.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_07: Well, but I mean you think about it.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_07: I Ice Cube has played uh government agents from Triple X.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, and he's played, I think he's has he played a cop?
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, but he but he's gone the whole like Bill Cosby room, played dads.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_07: You know, Henry Rollins hates cops, but he's played a cop in at least two or three movies.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_07: I just think it's funny, but you know what.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_10: I knew this one.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_10: I knew this one was a thing.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_10: This is okay, so this is how much and this drives me crazy.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_10: Because remember we're talking about some of these these uh these sites, yeah.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_10: And how they steal from other things, and they don't really sometimes they don't really know what they're writing about.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_10: Uh I read something on um one site that was talking about Aerosmith's farewell tour.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_10: And they said that Aerosmith is made up of um Joey Kramer, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, um, and Brad Whitford and Tony Hamilton.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_07: Isn't it Tom Hamilton?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_10: It's Tom Hamilton.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_10: This one right here.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_10: Iron Maiden, one of the most popular heavy metal bands of all time, released a self-titled song on their debut album in 1980.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_10: The song featured the soaring vocals of Bruce Dickinson and the intricate guitar of Dave Murray and Adrian Smith.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_10: It's not Bruce Dickinson.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_10: It's the original description.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_07: I was about to say, isn't that the original?
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_07: Because that's definitely not Bruce Dickinson.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_07: No, it's not.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_10: But that's what I mean.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, come on.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_10: If you don't know.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_07: Don't yeah.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_07: You're just making yourself out be stupid.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_09: Dare to be stupid.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, so I think I knew this one.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_10: As soon as the guy sings, you'll know who it is.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's the lemming.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Sleme's Motorhead.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's Motorhead.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_10: This song is called Motorhead.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_07: Why have I never heard this song?
• 42:40
  unknown: Really?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_07: Must be worried.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_10: Early, early.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_10: Motorhead.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_10: Self-titled debut album.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_10: 1977.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_10: Uh this one I didn't know.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, they had this is also on their debut album.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_10: Um, I didn't know that this was a title.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_10: Their debut album came out in 1990.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_10: Three-piece punk band.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_07: It's either Green Day or B it's Green Day?
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_07: It's Green Day.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_07: I was gonna say it's either Green Day or Blink 182.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, speaking of that, I gotta show you something if I can find it.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_10: This is a song called Green Day.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_10: Oh.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_10: Which I didn't know.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_10: Must not have been on Dookie.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, no, it wasn't.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_10: It was on their debut.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, this band I didn't know um well in the first place.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_10: I only knew a couple of their their hits uh because I think this is the the the band that no doubt covered.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_10: Um this is Talk Talk.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, they did that uh the Yeah, no doubt did that uh
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_10: I can't think of the name of it either, but they have a song called Talk Talk.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_10: Didn't I say I wasn't gonna play all of them?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_10: Oh well.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_10: Oh well.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_10: Rules are made to be broken.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, this is true.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_10: Uh and this one, I said this is the last one that I have on here.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_10: Um but this one I would have picked, that probably the first one I would have picked, actually, uh, that I could think of, besides Black Sabbath.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_10: It's uh it's this one.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_10: And that is Oh, it's bad company.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_10: Bad company.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_10: You had mentioned Blink 182.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, I want to see if I can find I found something this morning, actually, because you know, when I I'm like any middle-aged man.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_10: When he sits on the toilet, he brings his phone with him.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_10: That's too much information.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, you're not supposed to?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_10: It's attached to you, isn't it?
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_10: What is that?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_10: Um I wanna see if I can get it on here.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_10: If not, I don't think I can.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_10: Uh because I don't think I'm logged in here.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_10: But we'll find out.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_10: And uh I wish I could remember her name too.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_10: Um, I've I found this.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_10: And I'm gonna do this now, and it's gonna take up a lot of time.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_10: Um but I think it's valuable.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_10: Um because yeah, I don't like her name.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_10: Let me go.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_10: I think her name was just a perspective.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_10: An exercise in perspective and the way music can um change and mean different things.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_10: Of course my internet is not working, but dang it.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_10: All the heck.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_10: Danger, hangwur.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_10: I got it.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_10: So I found this, uh I saw this on a reel this morning.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna play you uh this is Blake 182 song called Damn It.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_10: Just listen for a second.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_10: That's a naughty word.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'll bleed that one.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_10: This isn't even this isn't even what I wanted to.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, let's stop.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_10: I don't remember this song very well.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_09: I mean I'm not very remembered, but listen to this.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so I and I'm gonna see if I can make this work because I'm switching to m to a different source here.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_10: Uh and of course I It just disappeared.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_10: I know, I just hit a button and it's gonna What happened?
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, no, there it is.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_10: So this woman named Alexandra K.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_10: She has her own page on on and her own career, music career, uh, on Instagram.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_10: I came across her page.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_10: She said, By the grace of God and the support of the best fan.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_10: Oh no, this is different.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_10: Um, y'all have shown this cover so much love, and what she did, this lyric from Blink 182 song is so sad, slowed down.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_13: I'll see you at a movie, snake preview.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_13: You'll show up and walk by on the arm of that guy.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_13: I'll smile in your way, we'll pretend that's okay.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_13: Sure, it'll last when he's gone, I won't come back, and it'll happen once again.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_12: You'll turn to a friend.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_12: Someone who understands.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_12: Say it's through the master.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_12: Right?
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_07: Perspective.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_07: It's a sad s it's a sad song.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_07: It really is, but when Blink 182, you would you would laugh at it.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_07: You'd laugh at it.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_07: It's you're doing it like this.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_07: It's like, oh, that's so heart-wrenching, you know.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_07: This is the whole that's funny, man.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's it's it's just it's um I don't know.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_07: But the fact that this girl thought of that.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_07: That's what I'm saying.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, because that's a pretty obscure Blink 182 song.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_10: And she and she looks like she's probably in her mid-20s.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, so it's that's not even really Yeah, probably.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, mid-20s.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_07: Great voice.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, she's a really good singer.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_09: Uh, I I saw that and I was like, wow.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_09: That's that's pretty that's actually pretty cool.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_09: It is pretty cool.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_09: That is pretty cool.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I uh I dug that too.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_07: I thought it was gonna be like one of those things like uh what was that band?
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_07: Dynamite Hack.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_07: They did that acoustic version of Boys in the Hood.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_09: I don't think I've ever heard that.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's it's great.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_09: Is it?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_09: It really is great.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_07: I thought it was gonna be something like that, but uh no.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_10: Um so anyway, and the other thing I want to talk about, I don't know how long we are right now.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_10: Um It's our podcast, we can't.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_10: It is.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_10: I know it's our podcast.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_10: Oops, I just turned myself down.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_10: We're still going.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, we're still going.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_10: Um is this.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_10: This scares me.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_10: This scares me.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_10: We'll do we'll talk about this and then we'll move and then we'll move on.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I think it's um so this whole and maybe you've seen this, I don't know if you have or not.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_10: Um this whole notion of AI.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, I don't like AI.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_10: Artificial intelligence.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I don't like it.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_10: I don't either.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_10: Um, and I and here's they've done something uh with with AI that I'm trying not to like.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_10: Um because I don't believe in AI.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_10: Because I think it's a slippery slope and I think it's really scary, and if it's in the wrong hands, it's it's gonna be it's gonna be our Skynet.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_07: I agree.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_07: It really is.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_10: I agree.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_10: Um But I want to play you, let's see.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_07: Well, I noticed I I'd gotten a I think it was this weekend.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_07: I got a notification on uh Snapchat?
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, you see that?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_10: I was like, no.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_10: I completely ignored it.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_10: No, I didn't know.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_10: But there are people that are using it.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_10: I think even my kids are using it.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I completely and I told him, I said, don't do that, don't do that.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_10: So it's not good.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_10: Let me play you this first.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_10: So you can get an idea.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_10: Uh nine years ago, I think, uh Paul McCartney came out with an album, um, and this song is called New.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_10: Do you remember that song?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_03: Don't look at me.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_07: No, I don't remember this song.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_07: You don't remember this?
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_03: Don't look at me.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: All my life, I never knew, what I could be, what I could do.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_03: But you can definitely tell it's a false part.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_10: That's all I'm gonna play with that.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_10: So, uh, this is of course is on Ultimate Classic Rock.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_10: Uh YouTube user named Day Limbs has used AI to reimagine solo material by John Lennon and Paul McCartney as Beatles songs.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_10: Uh the AI created version of new, the title track from McCartney's 2013 album, mixes further vocal harmonies into the song and adds portions of the tune that sound as if Lennon is singing.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_10: So this is the AI version of what you just heard.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, I'll get freaked out, right?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: I am dude.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_07: My skin is crawling.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_10: Um he gives very little information as to the process of creating these tracks, but he says, nothing is real.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_07: You got that right.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_10: Quoting a famous line from Strawberry Fields Forever.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um it gets better.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_10: So he took um remember the the song Grow Old With Me?
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_10: Lennon did it as a demo.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_10: So it's just him and Piano, yeah.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_10: Um that he did in like 1980, and it was released uh in eighty-four, I think.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_10: Um, so they the AI version adds things to it.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_10: Um so far.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_05: This is crazy.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_05: This is crazy.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_10: You know, and I was talking to my kid, uh, who's uh Jude who's home for college from co from college for the summer.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_10: Um wait.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, there he is, right here.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_07: Paul.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_07: Crazy Juke.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, it's one thing if you'd lifted this from like they did with uh Freezerbird and Real Love.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_07: This is this is this is I know.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_10: It's I don't know, man.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_10: This is just He's saying that he's got some friends that are in um audio engineering and that people are losing their jobs because AI can do everything.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_07: I know.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_10: My daughter is a videographer and an and an audio editor.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_10: Um well not well, not just an audio editor, she's an editor.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_10: And he says, you know, you know, they can they have AI that edits that stuff by itself.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_07: It's not good, man.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_10: It's not good.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_10: It's not good.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_10: It's not good.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_10: And again, I'm trying not to like it, but it's very haunting.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_10: It is.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_10: It is.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_10: And it's beautiful.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_07: It is beautiful, but it's it makes you think what could have been.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_07: And uh but I just wow man.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_10: I know.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_07: I it's it's a quandary.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_07: The hair standing up on your arms.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_07: You just want to you you know, you just want to take a bath in holy water.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_07: I don't know, man.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_07: It's just crazy.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_10: Let me see if we're still recording or if they, you know.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_07: Yay, I shut us down.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_07: Skynet has shut us down.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_10: Uh okay.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_10: So we're we we should uh we should we should kill this segment uh right now because I'm a little freaked out.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_10: And uh we're going I want my mommy!
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_09: Let's do uh let's do it then.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, I'm excited to say that we have a new book.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_10: I you haven't even opened it.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_10: Let's let's see.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_10: It's still in the plastic.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_10: This is from BeckFiner.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_07: This is this is the last of the BeckFiner books that we're going to do.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_07: So this is kind of a momentous occasion.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_07: You get 26 more episodes of the alphabet.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_07: Again, again.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so this is the Metal Legends Alphabet by Metal Legends.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_07: The illustrious Beckfiner.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_10: So A.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_10: If I had to guess.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_10: Well, and we're talking metal.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_10: Metal.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_10: Uh if I had to guess, and we gotta you gotta go with the big the big four, anthrax.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_07: Exactly right.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_07: Actually, the the illustration is pretty good.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_07: Oh wow.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_07: I like that.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_10: I bet she didn't do that.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_07: It does look like her style.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_07: Does it?
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_07: But uh anyway.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_07: Uh okay.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_07: A is for anthrax.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_07: Woohoo! Out of Queens, New York, Anthrax was formed in 1981 by goateed guitarist Scott Ian.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_07: Nominated for six Grammys.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_07: They love fast, heavy riffs with a generous dose of fun.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_07: Alongside Metallica, Slayer, and Megadeth, they are one of the big four of thrash metal.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_10: There you go.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_07: It w that was definitely one of my favorite shows when I saw them.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_10: You mentioned that.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_07: That was that was such a great because Danny it went back when Danny Spitz was uh John Bush was singing.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_07: Joey Joey Belladonna had left.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_07: And John Bush was singing, and Danny Spitz was still in the band.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_07: And halfway through the show, Danny Spitz gear just cut out.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_07: Just gone.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_07: So the guitar kicks trying to get it fixed.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_07: So the rest of the band sat on the stage and did like I'm the man and did like you know, other like they did like rap songs like Public Enemy rap songs and stuff.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_07: It was hysterical, man.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_07: They're they're just the they are the coolest guys.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_10: You know, they're just down-to-earth, just like we used to we used to, you know, um on top of our little Dawkins get togethers where we would uh listen to Dawkins and all that stuff, Anthrax was right in there.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_10: We did uh what was the one uh Starting Up A Posse.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_10: Starting up a posse.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, we can't play that on on here.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we did.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_10: We did that.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_10: Remember we played it?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, and we censored it or something like that?
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_07: I don't think I think we were very selective about what we played.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we did play it in real time.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_07: So yeah.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_07: I uh yeah, I love Anthrax.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_10: Good stuff.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_10: Great band.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_10: Good stuff.
• 1:01:59
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• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_10: I paid it off completely.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_10: Noice.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so it's it's mine free and clear.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yay! Uh so but remind me uh to tell you that story after.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_10: Um so yeah, let's do uh let's climb the wall.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_10: Let's climb the wall.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_10: You don't have to read enough.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_10: I don't have to read anymore.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_07: So I'm just gonna I'm gonna look around the room and read stuff off the boxes.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, you do that.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_07: So I was looking at this box.
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_07: It says lift with both hands.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_07: Well, what if I don't want to?
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_07: What if I can lift it with one hand?
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_07: Can I can I am I allowed to do that?
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_10: I mean it's it is reduced fat.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_07: The quantity is four one gallons.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_07: So wouldn't it be easy to just say four gallons?
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_07: Well or is it four separate containers of one gallon each?
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_07: It was.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_07: Is that it?
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_10: It was, yes.
• 1:04:42
  unknown: Yes.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_07: And I can't stack them for more than four cases high.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_07: Isn't that a smurf thing?
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_07: They're three apples high.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_07: Do not store on damp floor.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_07: Well, that that's obvious.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_07: Why would you store it on a damp floor?
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, who who who who goes out of their way to store stuff on damp floors?
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, really.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_10: Dang it.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_10: I thought I had this band in here.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_10: Dang it.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_10: Did I say it was a band?
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_10: Whoops.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_04: Do I it's ABBA.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_07: No, it's not ABBA.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_07: No.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_07: Uh let's see.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_07: It's Grand Rand.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_10: Well, see, this means I'm gonna have to resort to YouTube to play a little bit of it, and uh YouTube is acting funny.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_10: Um like ha ha funny or just hmm funny.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_10: Like, hmm.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_10: Oh.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_10: It's AI.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_10: I'm sure.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_10: I'm sure it is.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_10: Sure it is.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, I've got a you haven't done the you haven't said the magical for it.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_10: You're right, you're right.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_10: I have an album.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_10: Let the guessing begin.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_10: It's a band.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_10: It is.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_10: Wow, you're good.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_10: It's the carpenters.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_07: It's not.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_07: Um it is.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_07: Like uh.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_07: Hard rock band?
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I would say so.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_10: Pop popular win.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_10: I would say late 80s, early 90s.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_10: Skuns and roses.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_07: It's firehouse.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_10: Uh no.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_10: But I'm close.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_10: I think it's not Trickster.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_07: Is it in the same vein as Firehouse?
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_10: I would put it in the same vein as well.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_10: Brittany Fox.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_10: I would actually they came before Firehouse.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_10: But I would put it in the same.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe you would.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_10: Well, it's not glam.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_10: Well, no.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_10: I guess at the time it probably is glam.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_10: Are they still around?
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_10: I think so.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_10: I know their guitar player died.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_10: Uh I think guitar.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, is it Handle Rocky?
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_10: They had two big songs.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_10: And then a couple of uh songs that were not big, but you know them.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_10: But two two big songs when they first came out.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_10: One's a ballad.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_10: And one's a rocker.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_10: And I thought I had this.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_10: I thought we already talked about this.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know, maybe.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_10: I don't remember.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_10: Mold.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_10: It's like two minutes ago.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_07: I don't I don't you need more I need more clues.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_10: You need more clues.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_10: Um there okay, so the two songs.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see, how can I put this?
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_10: One of them uh the the rocker is about the rock star lifestyle.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_10: So a uh a musician, rock musician would be this, and then they'd probably uh sleep late.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's slaughter.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_10: I knew that was gonna give it away.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_10: It is it is so it is firehouse-ish.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_10: Right?
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_10: So you you agree.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_10: It's it's it's sleep all night.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_10: Up all night.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_09: Up all night, sleep all day.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_09: Told you all right, sleep all night, work all day.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_07: They were actually a pretty great band.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_07: I agree.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, here it is.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_10: I think they they got lumped in, you know.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_07: They got lost in a couple.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_10: Blas Elias, I think, is the drummer.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_10: Is that right?
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_10: I have no idea.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_10: No idea.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Mark Slaughter was the lead singer of Vinny, yeah.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_10: Vinny Vincent Invasion.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, right?
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_07: That's right, yes.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_10: Again, this is nostalgic.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_10: It brings me back.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_10: Brings me back.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_07: It was it was it was our it was our version of uh, you know, uh rock we will rock you.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_07: Uh no, um kiss song.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_10: Uh oh, oh yeah.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_10: Um rock and roll all night.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_10: Rock and roll all night.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_10: Rock and roll all night.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_10: Uh-huh.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_10: Well, a rock and roll all night.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_10: And then, of course, they had this uh ballad, which was huge.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, they look they like it.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, right.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_10: This is a video.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_10: Of course it's I thought I had it in my iTunes, and apparently I didn't have it looking at it.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_07: I think in my iTunes I have Best of Slaughter.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_10: That's what this is.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_10: Is it the best of slaughter?
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_10: This one right here.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's the that's the one.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_10: This is a great song.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_07: Something about angels.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_07: Fly to the Angels.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Fly to the Angels, yeah.
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this was a huge song.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_09: It was.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_09: It was bigger than Up All Night.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, it was way bigger, man.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_07: Cause checked.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_07: Right, exactly.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_07: That's the key.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_07: I'm telling you, man.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_07: I think we're on to something.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_07: You gotta write songs that the women like.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_07: That's the secret to success.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_10: Is it now?
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_07: It is.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_07: Listen to all these bands we talked about tonight.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_07: Their biggest songs are ballads, which women are like, this is our song! You know?
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Dana Strum was the guitar player.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_10: I think he was killed in the car accident.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_10: Was he?
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they were a glam metal-ish.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_07: They were like a I didn't think they were glam.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, they had long.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_07: They're not glam, but they were they're glam-inch.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_07: That's why I said they're glam-ish.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_07: They just didn't do the big heron makeup.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_07: Right, right.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_07: Like, you know, like early poison and Molly Crew.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_10: Um Let me see if.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, okay.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_10: I want to see if if I'm right.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_10: Oh no, it wasn't Dana Strum.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_10: Sorry, Dana, if you're listening.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_04: I'm still alive!
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_10: Dana's the bass player.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_10: It was Tim Kelly.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Tim Kelly had a car accident in 1998.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_10: Um I want to see if they're still going.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_10: I think it says um Well, I mean, I haven't heard any new music from them.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_07: That's the thing.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_07: And that's and that's part of my And I'm surprised Frontier Records hasn't snatched them out.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_10: That's part of my, you know, we had a discussion before we started the podcast about uh a venture that we're gonna go on.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_10: Or we want to go on.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_10: Um we can't you say venture or adventure?
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_10: Venture.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_10: A new venture.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_07: Well, it's kind of an adventure.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_10: It will be.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_10: Um and I can't we can't really talk much about it right now, but it's a secret.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_10: Um I that's one thing I'd like to do is play new music from heritage artists because nobody's doing exactly, yeah.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_10: You know?
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_07: I think that should be our focus.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_10: I think so too.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_10: I think if a new I think if a new song, well, I mean, we got Winger, we got Extreme.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_07: Winger comes out Friday, Extreme's coming out next month.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_07: I think we play all that.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_07: Revolution Saint- Is Revolution Saint So yet?
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_10: That's a good question.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_10: Do we know what it's called?
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_10: Eagle Eagle Flight?
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, that's right.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_10: Hold on.
• 1:13:18
  SPEAKER_10: I can't remember if it'll find out, Maslow.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_07: I can't remember if it came out already or it's coming out.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_10: I know, because we get confused because there's a lot of things.
• 1:13:26
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, there's so many right now, too.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_10: A lot of stuff coming out.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_07: Like the new Sweeten Lynch.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_07: Is that coming out?
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_07: This guy is coming out this summer, or is it October?
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_10: I don't remember.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_10: I can't remember.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_10: I'd have to look it up.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_10: Uh let's see.
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_10: It's not uh it's not on Amazon.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_10: The new Revolution Saint The New Revolution Saints.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, so it's not out yet then.
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_10: It's not out yet.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so it must be it must be, but it's coming out this year.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_07: It's coming out soon.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I believe so.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, so there's so much, you know, all these uh, you know, you know, these artists that we grew up with are still making music and coming out with, and nobody's playing it.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_07: Right, exactly.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_07: It's fun, it's frustrating, dude.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_10: Uh as I this is another uh slaughter song.
• 1:14:11
  SPEAKER_10: I'm gonna play one more slaughter song because we we only heard the two big ones.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_10: So this was one of the ones I was talking about that was it's a known song from Slaughter, but it wasn't a huge spend my life.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_07: I vaguely remember the that's what I mean.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_07: It's a good song.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_10: Trying to think here.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_10: So so if I look at their look at Wikipedia, Slaughter continues to tour.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_10: And in two thousand two thousand seventeen, they're scheduled to appear on the Monsters of Rock cruise and Rocklahoma.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_10: So I think they probably still play those.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they're still doing like festivals and stuff.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_10: That was that was like what five years ago, but still six years ago.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_07: Something anyway.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_10: But I think there's yeah, they're still doing like the Monsters of Rock.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, I'm sure, yeah.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_10: So that's good.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_10: That's good to hear.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_07: Um, so yeah, that is the uh he always had a like his voice always had a Mike Tramp quality to it.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, a little bit.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_10: A little bit of a rasp.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you know, and but he but you know, he can hit those really high.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_10: Oh my goodness.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so yep.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_10: Uh alright, that's it.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_10: That is the uh the band of the week for uh the uh Wall of Dudes.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_10: So that's episode 148.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_07: 100.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_07: We should do something special for 150.
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_10: You think so?
• 1:16:03
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, like maybe plan it?
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 1:16:08
  SPEAKER_10: That is not special.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_10: Have a guest?
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_10: We should have a guest.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_10: We should have Bob on or something.
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_10: Or maybe Shane or I don't know.
• 1:16:15
  SPEAKER_07: Something we haven't had on in for a while.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:16:17
  SPEAKER_07: Try to get Wild Man back.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we should.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_07: He kinda ditched us, though.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_10: He did.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_10: Well, he's he's a busy guy.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_10: He is a busy guy.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_10: Not as busy as me, but he's a busy guy.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_10: He doesn't have as many kids.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_10: I managed to do it, you know.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, yeah, whatever.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_07: Whatever.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_07: You've been called out, Wild Man.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_07: What about my groomers?
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_07: What about my groomers?
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_07: You never get to work in a mine.
• 1:16:42
  SPEAKER_09: It's an inside joke.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_07: Very inside joke.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_07: So uh yeah.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_07: We'll call it.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_07: Uh podcast.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_10: Until uh until next time, hopefully we'll have uh an announcement in the next couple of weeks uh about uh a new venture that we're gonna be massively kind of huge.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_07: Massively mediocre.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_07: Massively mediocre.
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_07: Ooh, I like that.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_07: That's good.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_07: Super mediocre.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_07: I always like super mediocre, but massively mediocre is even better.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:17:18
  unknown: Wow.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_10: Massively mediocre.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_07: Can we call the episode that?
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_10: Capsule.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_10: Sweet! Have you heard Episode 148, massively mediocre?
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_07: BB like, wow, I gotta check that out.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_07: It's huge, but not that huge.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_07: I was just dude, get off my freak.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_07: I was just getting ready to say that.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_07: Ah, on that note.
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_07: I'm still Doug.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_07: Bye, everybody! Belfast Doug.
• 1:17:49
  SPEAKER_04: Top of the morning to you.
• 1:17:50
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• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_10: KmH Music in Prescott, Maine.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_10: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_07: And my cousin! Make sure to follow O'Brien and Doug on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_07: Drop your crayons and pick up your phone and email us anytime at O'Brienandug at gmail.com.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_07: Scribble scribble.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_07: It's a horsey.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_00: We've done over 1600 shows.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_00: They can't all be great, you know.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_00: You do you do that many shows.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_00: You do that many shows.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Some are gonna some are gonna suck, some are gonna eat.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Some are gonna blow.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_04: This is a fine show.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_04: This is not a bad show.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_00: Some blow, some eat.