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Sharri | 5 June · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Shari, It's good evening well tonight to our continuing expose
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Speaker 1: of Anthony Albanesi's history as a pro Palestinian activist. I
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Speaker 1: can reveal Albanzi met with the late Palestinian President Yassa
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Speaker 1: Arafat two years before he Albanzi protested against Israel during
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Speaker 1: the Second into Fada, and that was the violent Palestinian
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Speaker 1: uprising that included terror attacks. Our now prime minister took
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Speaker 1: part in Iralian Sydney, where Israeli and American flags were burned.
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Speaker 1: Albanzi also met with Arafat, the terrorist turned president of
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Speaker 1: the PLO, in Ramala two years earlier in nineteen ninety eight.
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Speaker 1: Unlike other politicians who met with Arafat, Albanzi did not
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Speaker 1: meet the Israeli Prime Minister at the time. It was
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Speaker 1: Benjamin Nettanyahu the Israeli President Aza Weizman. On his trip
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Speaker 1: to the Middle East. Albinizi was on a trip sponsored
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Speaker 1: by the Palestine Liberation Organization and it was all expenses paid,
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Speaker 1: including flights and accommodation. Saurcers who knew Albanesi at the
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Speaker 1: time told me he was starry eyed and fawning at
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Speaker 1: the prospect of meeting Yasser Arafat. Here is a photograph
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Speaker 1: that captured that moment. You can see Albanesi sitting on
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Speaker 1: the far left of the screen. Next to him is
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Speaker 1: a farmer labor MP Leo McLay who was strongly anti Israel.
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Speaker 1: Then in the center there's Arafat. To the right of
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Speaker 1: Arafat is one of his advisors, who then sits next
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Speaker 1: to the former Palestinian delegate or ambassador in inverted commas,
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Speaker 1: Ali Kazakh. And then on the far right of your
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Speaker 1: screen is Joe Hockey, who was also on the tri
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Speaker 1: Joe Hockey's father was born in the Palestinian territories, and
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Speaker 1: he and Alberizi set up the Australian Parliamentary Friends of
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Speaker 1: Palestine Group together. National Party MP Peter mc Peter mcgarren,
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Speaker 1: who'd worked on a kibbutz in Israel and had visited
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Speaker 1: Israel on many occasions, was also present. I asked the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister's office about the meeting, and a spokeswoman said
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Speaker 1: it was a widely reported cross parliamentary trip to Egypt, Jordan, Gaza,
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Speaker 1: West Bank and Israel. The majority of people on the
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Speaker 1: trip were Liberal and National MPs were During the Palestinian
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Speaker 1: sponsored trip. Albanesi and the group also went to a
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Speaker 1: dinner in Gaza, which I'm told was attended by about
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Speaker 1: sixty PLO officials or men. As I mentioned, the group
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Speaker 1: did not meet with the then Israeli Prime Minister or
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Speaker 1: Israeli president. At the time, Albanesi was an activist for
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Speaker 1: the Palestinian cause. Two years later, while Arafat was president,
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Speaker 1: the Second Into Farda rocked Israel. More than a thousand
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Speaker 1: Israelis were killed in the violent uprising, which included Palestinian
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Speaker 1: terror attacks where suicide bombers killed innocent families, including a
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Speaker 1: busload of people. There was also violence and threats against
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Speaker 1: Jewish institutions here in Australia. But during the Second Into Farda,
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Speaker 1: according to left wing news website Criche, Albanizi joined pro
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Speaker 1: Palestinian protests against Israel, where American and Israeli flags were burned.
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Speaker 2: Israel trument.
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Speaker 3: Hing well hejecs.
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Speaker 1: Now that vision we first obtained here on this show,
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Speaker 1: but Kriikee placed it to during the Second inter Farta
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Speaker 1: and as you saw, that was Albanesi yelling into the
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Speaker 1: megaphone at the protest when Israelis at the time, during
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Speaker 1: the Second into Farta, Israelis were being killed in suicide bombings.
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Speaker 1: In a speech Albenzi gave that same month, again during
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Speaker 1: the Second inter Farta, Alberzi in parliament spoke about Israeli aggression.
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Speaker 4: Palestinians lived with restrictions.
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Speaker 5: Every day.
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Speaker 4: Gaza in the West Bink are regularly closed, preventing Palestinians
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Speaker 4: from going to work and creating a subsequent resentment. Roadblocks
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Speaker 4: occur at regular intervals. The hotel in Ramala, the city
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Speaker 4: Inn where I stayed with Peter Nugent, who's present here
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Speaker 4: in the house, and also Joe Hockey, Peter McGowan and
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Speaker 4: Liah McLay has been occupied by the Israeli Defense Force
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Speaker 4: and used by snipers on the West Bank. Palestinians did
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Speaker 4: not have equal rights in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: So as you saw there. In that parliamentary speech in
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Speaker 1: October two thousand, Albanzi referred to his trip two years earlier,
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Speaker 1: but as far as we can see, he's not in
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Speaker 1: recent years referred to his meeting with Arafat. But in
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Speaker 1: the wake of October seven, the former Palestinian delegate Ali Kazakh,
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Speaker 1: who took alber Easy to meet Arafat and was featured
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Speaker 1: in that photograph. Were he made the picture public. He
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Speaker 1: published the photograph taken of the meeting and wrote under
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Speaker 1: the image, and he wrote this on October the twenty first,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and I quote in Gaza's Hour of need?
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Speaker 1: What would President Arafat today make of Albanesi's one sided
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Speaker 1: support for Israel's right to defend itself a denied to
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Speaker 1: Palestinians in decades of Israeli occupation Gaza's hour of need? Well,
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Speaker 1: that was October the twenty first, twenty twenty three, just
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Speaker 1: weeks after the brutal and barbaric Hamas attacks of October
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Speaker 1: the seventh. Albanese's views at the time were out of
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Speaker 1: step with many of his Labor colleagues. Just a year
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Speaker 1: before Alberize he met with Arafat. The former Deputy Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister Tim Fisher had invited Arafat to visit Australia, but
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Speaker 1: then he was forced to rescind the invitation, and the
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Speaker 1: invitation was described by Labor MP Laurie Brereton as an embarrassment.
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Speaker 1: Have a look at this footage from nineteen ninety seven.
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Speaker 6: Acting Prime Minister, would you agree that consistency is an
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Speaker 6: important element in the conduct of the nation's foreign relations.
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Speaker 7: Why did you.
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Speaker 6: Invite the Palestinian President, mister Yasser Arafat to visit Australia
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Speaker 6: as a guest of government when you met with him
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Speaker 6: in Bethlehem on the thirteenth of March. Did you obtain
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Speaker 6: the agreement of the Prime Minister before you extended the
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Speaker 6: invitation to mister Arafat? Is it not a fact that
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Speaker 6: last Thursday the government withdrew that invitation. Acting Prime Minister,
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Speaker 6: what has changed since you met mister Arafat on the
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Speaker 6: thirteenth of March, and how do you explain this latest
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Speaker 6: embarrassment to our international relations.
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Speaker 8: With regard to yes Arafat? Yes, I extended invitation is
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Speaker 8: not convenient or suitable to process or progress that at
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Speaker 8: this time and there's no inconsistency whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: As you heard there that invitation was referred to as
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Speaker 1: an embarrassment of international relations by a labor politician, Laurie Breton,
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Speaker 1: an embarrassment. Well, just today in Parliament, Albanezi admitted that
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Speaker 1: he had been an advocate for the Palestinian cause his
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Speaker 1: whole life. He was angry that protesters had been outside
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Speaker 1: the office of MPs and that they were undermining that
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Speaker 1: very cause, the cause of the Palestinians. That's what he
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Speaker 1: seemed most angry about today. Have a look.
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Speaker 4: I've supported justice for Palestinians my whole life and still do.
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Speaker 4: It is tragic that the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian
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Speaker 4: people are undermined by some people engaging activity that completely
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Speaker 4: alienates the Australian public due to the nature of that.
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Speaker 4: No one should be targeted for who they are. The
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Speaker 4: targeting of people because they are Jewish because people disagree
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Speaker 4: with some of the actions of the net and Yahoo
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Speaker 4: government are completely unacceptable. Political debate must be respectful.
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Speaker 1: Again, Albanezi can't seem to mention antisemitism without also speaking
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Speaker 1: about Islamophobia and justice for Palestinians. Have a look again
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Speaker 1: at this from today.
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Speaker 4: There's no place for any Semitism, prejudice of any sort Islamophobia.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 1: By contrast, Peter Dutton responded to the anti Semitism that's
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Speaker 1: gripped Australia in a very powerful way today. He gave
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Speaker 1: a remarkable and moving speech that expressed utter dismay for
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Speaker 1: what Jewish Australians are dealing with. And he also referred
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Speaker 1: to the event that we it Sky News held and
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Speaker 1: took part in on Sunday evening. It was to fight
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism. It was held at a Jewish school. Peter
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Speaker 1: Dutton came and I interviewed him at that event, and
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Speaker 1: that was part of his speech in Parliament today.
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Speaker 10: Last week I was at a school in Sydney where
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Speaker 10: armed guards have a permanent presence to protect young children
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Speaker 10: going to school, to protect young kids going to day
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Speaker 10: care centers. Not because they've done anything wrong, not because
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Speaker 10: they're families have done anything wrong or stand for any
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Speaker 10: bad cause, but because they are Jewish, That's why. And
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Speaker 10: that has no place in our country whatsoever. It's not
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Speaker 10: with any precedent in any other part of the country
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Speaker 10: and it needs to be condemned. And what the Prime
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Speaker 10: Minister does today in condemning the actions of those who seek,
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Speaker 10: for their own political purposes and their own political advancement,
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Speaker 10: to pour fuel on this fire, deserve condemnation of this chamber.
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Speaker 1: That speech was very powerful, went for five minutes. That
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Speaker 1: is leadership on anti Semitism, and that is the leadership
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Speaker 1: we should have seen on this scourge from the Prime
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Speaker 1: minister since October seven. Instead, we have a pro Palestinian
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Speaker 1: activist himself as Prime Minister, someone so radical that he
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Speaker 1: protested on the side of Palestinians during the Second into
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Speaker 1: Fata and is now leading our country down a dangerous
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Speaker 1: path where social cohesion is eroding fast. Now tonight I'm
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Speaker 1: going to hear from Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson
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Speaker 1: about this topic. We're going to bring him on live
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Speaker 1: later in the show and heal express his view about
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Speaker 1: Albanese's past as a pro Palestinian protester. That's going to
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Speaker 1: be a very strong interview coming up in the show.
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Speaker 1: Also tonight, Australia's GDP hits, COVID lows, confirming that we're
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Speaker 1: in for a long per capita recession, and the woke
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Speaker 1: e Safety Commissioner finally drops the absurd court battle against
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk. This is a win for free speech. We'll
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Speaker 1: have more on that coming up. Well, let's go now
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Speaker 1: to the economic data we saw today, the weakest economic
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Speaker 1: growth rate apart from COVID since the nineteen ninety one recession.
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Speaker 1: The latest figures show GDP only grew by zero point
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Speaker 1: one percent in the first quarter of the year. Joining
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Speaker 1: me now Tonight's political panel Labor MP Andrew Charlton, a
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Speaker 1: National Senate leader, Bridget Mackenzie, Andrew Bridget, Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 1: Look Andrew, we've avoided a technical recession so far, but
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Speaker 1: there is a per capita recession for ordinary Australians. How
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Speaker 1: tough is it at the moment? And what else does
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Speaker 1: this data tell us?
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Speaker 11: Well, you're right, Shari, per capita GDP growth has been
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Speaker 11: low in Australia and it was low again this quarter.
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Speaker 11: But I think it's important to remember about per capita
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Speaker 11: GDP that it is quite a volatile series and countries
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Speaker 11: right around the world have been struggling with low per
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Speaker 11: capita GDP growth since before COVID. If you compare Australia
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Speaker 11: to other peer countries over that timeframe, Australia actually does
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Speaker 11: much better on a per capita GDP basis than Britain,
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Speaker 11: than Japan, then New Zealand, than Canada, than the Euro Area.
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Speaker 11: So I think those per capita numbers do speak to
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Speaker 11: the struggle that many families are experiencing at the moment,
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Speaker 11: but it's certainly not a problem unique to Australia or
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Speaker 11: unique to this time. More broadly on the economic numbers,
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Speaker 11: I think it shows that the government has its fiscal
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Speaker 11: settings right. You know, we received a lot of criticism
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Speaker 11: around the budget that we hadn't cut enough, that the
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Speaker 11: budget surplus wasn't big enough that we should have gone further. Well,
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Speaker 11: now we can see that since the economy is as
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Speaker 11: weak as it is, it actually would have been a
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Speaker 11: terrible mistake to take that advice, and instead the government
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Speaker 11: with a modest prudes prudent surplus, got the balance right
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Speaker 11: between bringing down inflation and making sure that we didn't
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Speaker 11: push the economy under.
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Speaker 1: Bridget What do you think do you think the economic
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Speaker 1: data today shows that the government did get the settings
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Speaker 1: right in the budget.
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Speaker 12: Well, I think we've got anemic growth at the moment.
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Speaker 12: We heard from the Reserve Bank governor today in Senate
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Speaker 12: Estimates who made it very very clear that she.
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Speaker 13: Wasn't looking at bringing it interesst rates down.
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Speaker 12: Anytime soon, which means for way journers and mortgage holders
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Speaker 12: in Australia, they're still going to feel the pinch for
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Speaker 12: a long long time to come. And the reason is
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Speaker 12: because we know inflation is now homegrown by this government's
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Speaker 12: record spending twenty seven point six percent of GDP, highest
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Speaker 12: on record, even the peaks through COVID, which means there
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Speaker 12: is no incentive for the Reserve Bank governor governor to
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Speaker 12: actually put downward pressure on interest rates. And that's the
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Speaker 12: thing that's really killing everyday Australians in our suburbs and
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Speaker 12: regional capitals.
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Speaker 13: And if you like everything else is index.
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Speaker 12: Your pension's index, youth allowances index, et cetera. All these
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Speaker 12: other government payments are indexed. The only people that aren't
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Speaker 12: getting index relief here in the face of inflation our
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Speaker 12: way journals and mortgage holders.
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Speaker 13: And the government needs to get it spending under.
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Speaker 12: Control instead of flooding the economy with money.
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Speaker 13: Which is exactly what they've been doing.
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Speaker 12: And I did note that there were Labor senators today
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Speaker 12: seeking to shame and blame shift the woes of our
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Speaker 12: economy onto the shoulders of Michelle Bullock from the Reserve Bank.
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Speaker 13: She wasn't having any of it.
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Speaker 12: She's not going to be making political decisions on interest
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Speaker 12: rates to suit.
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Speaker 13: Jim Chalmers, Sure if.
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Speaker 11: I could just jump in there. You know, it's great
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Speaker 11: to be back on the show with bridget. But what
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Speaker 11: she just said is really confused. On the one hand,
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Speaker 11: she's saying that the economy is really weak, that we've
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Speaker 11: got anemic growth was the words that she uses point
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Speaker 11: But on the other hand, she's saying that labor has
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Speaker 11: got a big spending budget and can't control the spending.
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Speaker 11: So she's suggesting that we should be spending less and
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Speaker 11: is she willing to cop the consequences of what that
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Speaker 11: would mean for a country in anemic growth?
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Speaker 13: For your she's trying to say.
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Speaker 12: Patronizing, Yeah, that's true, let's get bridgie, let's get leaves.
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Speaker 12: The only lever that is actually left is to see
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Speaker 12: a rise in unemployment. So the strategy actually underlying the
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Speaker 12: Labor Party at the moment is that they're hoping and
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Speaker 12: their policies will actually result in people losing their jobs
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Speaker 12: to actually ensure that the fiscal settings work in a
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Speaker 12: way that will bring interest rates down quicker than I
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Speaker 12: think Michelle Bullip would.
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Speaker 13: Be planning to do so. And it's not me, it's
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Speaker 13: the economists.
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's move on to another topic. Defense ministers
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Speaker 1: Richard Miles and his junior Matt Keo, seem to be
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Speaker 1: have some struggles today put it that way, keeping their
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Speaker 1: stories straight. There were mixed messages on which foreign residents
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Speaker 1: would soon be able to join the Australian Defense FOSS.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look.
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Speaker 9: Well, in terms of who we're focusing on, we've really
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Speaker 9: articulated that New Zealand, five Eyes the Pacific. But what
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Speaker 9: we're focusing on is New Zealand, five Eyes and the Pacific.
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Speaker 13: The first of January twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 10: It'll apply to other five ized countries and permanent residents
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Speaker 10: from any other.
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Speaker 1: Countries, many other countries. Andrew Charlton, instead of allowing foreigners
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Speaker 1: to join the ADF, why not do a better job
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Speaker 1: at improving the organization so that it appeals to young Australians.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think we have to do that as well, Jari.
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Speaker 11: You know, for the last nine years, the recruitment into
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Speaker 11: the ADF has not been where it needs to be
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Speaker 11: and that has left us with some capability gaps that
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Speaker 11: we need to be acting to fill. And that means
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Speaker 11: making sure that joining the armed forces is an attractive
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Speaker 11: proposition for young Australians, that they are supported, trained and
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Speaker 11: given career pathways through the armed forces. That means that
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Speaker 11: we can attract the best young people in to defend
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Speaker 11: this country. And what the Defense Minister is saying is
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Speaker 11: now we're also looking at options to use people who
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Speaker 11: have been in Australia for a long time from New Zealand,
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Speaker 11: from other like minded countries and not preventing those people
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Speaker 11: from joining the armed forces if they meet the criteria
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Speaker 11: that are set out for them.
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Speaker 1: Bridget, do you agree with the proposal to allow like
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Speaker 1: minded countries America, New Zealand, Canada, other Five Eyes nations
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Speaker 1: to join our adf.
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Speaker 12: Well, I think the Australian citizenry is the most precious
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Speaker 12: gift that you can give somebody. We should all be
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Speaker 12: prepared to do everything in our power to defend our
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Speaker 12: country and we need to make sure the Defense Force.
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Speaker 13: To Andrew's point, and I agree.
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Speaker 12: With him on this, is that the selection criteria needs
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Speaker 12: to be broad enough to make sure that more young
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Speaker 12: Australians not only seated as an attractive career, but also
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Speaker 12: you can get in.
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Speaker 13: We got evidence in Senate.
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Speaker 12: Estimates an hour or two ago where finally you're going
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Speaker 12: to let people who have braces, have had braces.
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Speaker 13: Into the Defense Force, et cetera. So remove some of
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Speaker 13: those barriers. I think is could. But at the end
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Speaker 13: of the day, Shari, we're not the foreign legion.
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Speaker 12: I don't think we need to be bringing in non
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Speaker 12: Australians to help us defend our own. We need to
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Speaker 12: make sure the ADF is fit for purpose and employing
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Speaker 12: Australian citizens.
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Speaker 1: Now, just before we go, we've seen elections in India. Look,
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Speaker 1: this is an area a foreign policy that you follow
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Speaker 1: particularly closely, Andrew Charlton. Prime Minister Neuendre Modi will now
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Speaker 1: have to rely on coalition partners, it's been reported to
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Speaker 1: form government. Are you surprised, Andrew by this result?
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Speaker 11: Look, I think the results certainly defied the exit polls,
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Speaker 11: and they defied many people's predictions. You've got to remember
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Speaker 11: that an Indian election is really a marvel of logistics.
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Speaker 11: It takes many weeks. There are nearly a billion people
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Speaker 11: who are eligible voters. And I think for me, one
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Speaker 11: thing that this result shows, which was much closer than
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Speaker 11: people predicted. It certainly wasn't the walkover by a Prime
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Speaker 11: Minister Modi that had been expected in some quarters. It
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Speaker 11: shows that Indian democracy is alive and well. They have
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Speaker 11: a strongly contested democracy. Vigorous political parties and an election
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Speaker 11: process which was free of claims of fraud or interference
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Speaker 11: and has delivered a return of the Modi government, albeit
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Speaker 11: with a smaller majority.
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Speaker 1: Apart from an economic textbook, You've actually written in a
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Speaker 1: book on India, Andrew, haven't you.
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Speaker 7: That's right.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I wrote a book about Australia's engagement with India
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Speaker 11: and the importance of that relationship to Australia in the future.
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Speaker 11: The point of the book is that I don't think
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Speaker 11: there are many other nations in the world that will
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Speaker 11: shape Australia's future as much as India. It is the
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Speaker 11: largest country in the world by population, it is about
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Speaker 11: to become the third largest economy in the world. It
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Speaker 11: has the fastest growing military capability, and it's on track
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Speaker 11: to become a full blown superpower that will shape our
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Speaker 11: region and Australia within it.
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Speaker 12: And unlike other superpowers, it's actually a democracy, which I
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Speaker 12: think is super exciting. And I think Modi's whole vision
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Speaker 12: to make India a developed country by its independence centenary
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Speaker 12: in twenty forty seven, I think is something the Indian
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Speaker 12: public want to see achieved.
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Speaker 11: Bridget and I agree.
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Speaker 1: Tonight. For once, Andrew Charlton Bridget Mackenzie, thank you both
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Speaker 1: so much for your time. Now, as we've been talking about,
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Speaker 1: our economy is at a stound steel growth, falling to
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Speaker 1: zero point one percent in the March Quieter, the weakest
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Speaker 1: growth in decades. Here was treasurer at Jim Chalmers today.
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Speaker 14: The primary cause of this very weak growth in our
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Speaker 14: economy was higher interest rates, but in combination with moderating
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Speaker 14: but persistent inflation and global economic uncertainty. Over the past year,
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Speaker 14: something like three quarters of OECD economies have recorded a
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Speaker 14: negative quarter, while Australia has avoided one to date.
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Speaker 1: And IRBA Governor Michelle Bullock wand and Senate estimates that
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Speaker 1: any decision to raise interest rates would be driven by
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Speaker 1: the data. Here, she was if it.
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Speaker 15: Turns out, for example, that inflation starts to go up again,
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Speaker 15: or it's much sticky than we think, we're not getting
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Speaker 15: it down, then we won't hesitate to move and raise
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Speaker 15: interest rates again. In contrast, if it turns out that
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Speaker 15: the economy is much weaker than expected and that puts
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Speaker 15: more downward pressure on inflation, then we'll be looking to
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Speaker 15: ease all right.
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Speaker 1: Harold Sign's business legend Terry mccron joins me. Now, Terry,
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Speaker 1: great to see you again. What's your analysis of this
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Speaker 1: data today? And I'm sure you would have heard the
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Speaker 1: views of Andrew Charlton and Bridget mackenzie just a minute ago.
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Speaker 16: Well, Chie, I think that Michelle, I'm is glad that
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Speaker 16: you showed the full quote because the meda is turnded
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Speaker 16: only focus on the first part of what she said
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Speaker 16: that she wouldn't hesitate take to raise interest rates if
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Speaker 16: inflation proved sticky or went up. But she also said
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Speaker 16: that she wouldn't hesitate to cut interest rates if the
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Speaker 16: economy was sicker than she believed it was. So that's
23:14
Speaker 16: very important to bear in mind because we have a
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Speaker 16: very messy economy. We have an economy which is very sick.
23:21
Speaker 16: It's not performing, it's not growing, as you've indicated, it's
23:25
Speaker 16: basically standing still despite this massive inflow of migrants, which
23:29
Speaker 16: dramatically add to demand or should be boosting the economy,
23:34
Speaker 16: but it's also got this persistent inflation problem. This is
23:38
Speaker 16: not a conventional situation showing where the economy is either
23:42
Speaker 16: in recession and inflation is low, so you cut interest
23:46
Speaker 16: rates to boost the economy or the opposite, where inflation
23:50
Speaker 16: is up but the economy is booming, so you try
23:52
Speaker 16: to slow things down. This is a very messy situation,
23:56
Speaker 16: and it's not caused as charmers were suggesting by the
23:59
Speaker 16: result they put out interest rates. Certainly that's been a negative,
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Speaker 16: But the real problems are what the government has been doing,
24:08
Speaker 16: what has been doing to energy, what has been doing
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Speaker 16: to costs, what has been doing so damagingly to employers
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Speaker 16: in business, not just small business, but business across the board.
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Speaker 1: You're talking about productivity here, you're talking about the slow productivity.
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Speaker 16: All of that charity, all of that charity exactly the
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Speaker 16: sort of things that are anti productivity, anti growth, anti
24:30
Speaker 16: encouragement to business to actually make investments and to employ people,
24:35
Speaker 16: and to really think that the only thing that counts
24:37
Speaker 16: in this economy is building more and more roads and
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Speaker 16: rail and infrastructure to house all those migrants. And also
24:45
Speaker 16: you know the mad rush to renewable energy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we weren't expecting this, were we. There was
24:52
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion that we'd be even seeing rate
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Speaker 1: cuts later this year. That seems to be disappearing fast.
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Speaker 11: Well.
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Speaker 16: As Michelle Bullet made very clear, the Reserve bankers trying
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Speaker 16: to balance and sit on this very narrow path gently
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Speaker 16: putting pressure on inflation. She's prepared to have inflation take
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Speaker 16: till the end of next year to get back into
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Speaker 16: its target because she doesn't want to sound unemployment rocketing
25:18
Speaker 16: up very sharply, and by and large she's managed to
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Speaker 16: succeed in that so far. The jobless rate is still
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Speaker 16: around four and a half percent, and interest rates in
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Speaker 16: Australia are actually lower than they are in other countries,
25:31
Speaker 16: in most of our comparative countries. So yes, yes, at
25:37
Speaker 16: the side of the many economs are predicting rate cuts,
25:40
Speaker 16: I remember one economs predicting we'd get a rate cut
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Speaker 16: in February. Didn't happen, and you certainly can't predict it
25:47
Speaker 16: from what Michelle had to say today. But I have
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Speaker 16: a set shari that we're going to see in the
25:52
Speaker 16: next couple of months this economy breaking one or two ways.
25:55
Speaker 16: Either that inflation pressure will become so persistent that Michelle
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Speaker 16: Bullock will have to hike, or in fact the economy
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Speaker 16: really will snap. Because we're very close to this economy snapping.
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Speaker 16: Businesses out there are in very tough times, and businesses
26:10
Speaker 16: out there are going broke, as you know, by numbers
26:14
Speaker 16: which we haven't seen for decades. So this is an
26:17
Speaker 16: economy which is really teaching on the brink, and it's
26:20
Speaker 16: not an economy in which the government should be sitting
26:23
Speaker 16: there as a spectator. The government should be doing the
26:25
Speaker 16: things to relieve the cost of living pressures, and not
26:29
Speaker 16: just with a three hundred dollars energy handout, serious measures
26:32
Speaker 16: which will actually make this economy more productive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, there's no question cost of living is the
26:38
Speaker 1: major issue. A lot of families are really struggling. Terry mccran,
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your analysis and we look
26:45
Speaker 1: forward to reading you in the Herald's sign Now coming up,
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Speaker 1: the e Safety Commissioner gives up her fight against Elon
26:51
Speaker 1: Musk plus Israel gears up for an offensive as Hesblah
26:55
Speaker 1: says they're ready for all that. Well, more on that
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Speaker 1: and the ABC not only refusal to cover the antisemitism crisis,
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Speaker 1: but its criticism of arcads Sky for covering it. All
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Speaker 1: of that with James Patterson and Colin Rubinstein. Next Welcome back.
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Speaker 1: We Israeli is bracing for war against the terror group
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Speaker 1: Hesbela on its northern border with Lebanon. IDF chief of
27:23
Speaker 1: Staff Hertzi Hallivi announced that they have strong defense readiness
27:27
Speaker 1: to attack and are approaching a decision point. This would
27:32
Speaker 1: mean Israel is fighting two Iran backed terror groups at
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Speaker 1: the same time, Hamas and Hesbela. Yet across the globe,
27:39
Speaker 1: but we're seeing media bias, misinformation about Israel's military tactics
27:44
Speaker 1: and rising antisemitism. Over on the ABC, which claims to
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Speaker 1: care about racism, will they continue to ignore the major
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Speaker 1: problem of anti Semitism? And shockingly, the ABC has even
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Speaker 1: criticized us at Sky News for covering the crisis.
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Speaker 2: So what was Sky Off the Dark discussing? On Monday Night,
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Speaker 2: Chris Kenny and Robert Gregory from the Australian Jewish Association
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Speaker 2: were focused on the rise of antisemitism in Australia. On
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Speaker 2: our account, it's around the thirtieth time it's been discussed
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Speaker 2: on Kenny's show since the war began.
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Speaker 1: Well, I actually think it's much more than that. I
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Speaker 1: would be surprised if Chris Kenny doesn't cover it every
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Speaker 1: single night as I do on this program. Yet the
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Speaker 1: ABC refuses to cover in any meaningful way the explosion
28:35
Speaker 1: of antisemitism in Australia. Since October the seventh, many people
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Speaker 1: have said that Sky that Josh fredenberg Sky documentary, an
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Speaker 1: important piece of journalism documenting the unprecedented racism we're seeing
28:50
Speaker 1: in Australia, should have been broadcast by the ABC. It's
28:54
Speaker 1: a point that former ABC director Joe Gersh made when
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Speaker 1: he came on this program last month.
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Speaker 3: My concern which is why has it fallen to Sky
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Speaker 3: News and Josh. That's not a criticism of Sky News
29:09
Speaker 3: or Josh, but it is a matter of deep concern
29:13
Speaker 3: to me, as a member of the Jewish community, as
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Speaker 3: a former ABC director, and as an Australian citizen that
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Speaker 3: our national broadcaster has not fully understood and dealt with
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Speaker 3: what I believe has reached crisis proportion, which is anti
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Speaker 3: Semitism in this country.
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Speaker 1: Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson joins me now along
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Speaker 1: with Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council Executive Director Colin Rubinstein.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to you both. Look, James, I mean we make
29:42
Speaker 1: this point over and over again. The alban Easy government
29:45
Speaker 1: has no control over what happens in the Middle East,
29:48
Speaker 1: but they can control what happens on our Street so
29:51
Speaker 1: they can influence it. That is one of the most
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Speaker 1: shocking things I've seen Paul Barry over on the ABC
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Speaker 1: criticizing us at Sky for covering the anti Semitism crisis.
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Speaker 1: Shouldn't here be examining why the ABC hasn't covered it
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Speaker 1: in any in depth.
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Speaker 17: Way, Shary I thought it was a very bold call
30:12
Speaker 17: by Paul Barry and the ABC to attack Sky News
30:16
Speaker 17: for being too focused and too concerned about anti Semitism,
30:20
Speaker 17: which has reached an unprecedented crisis in our country over
30:23
Speaker 17: the last eight months. When bodies like the Executive Council
30:26
Speaker 17: of Australian Jury track a seven hundred percent increase in
30:29
Speaker 17: anti semitism, when Victoria Police report massive increases in anti
30:33
Speaker 17: Semitic incidents, ten times in the frequency of anti Islamic incidents,
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Speaker 17: I think we should all be concerned about that and
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Speaker 17: we should be focused on it. But the ABC has
30:42
Speaker 17: shown a lack of curiosity, a lack of interest, and
30:45
Speaker 17: a lack of concern about this issue. In fact, the
30:47
Speaker 17: most tangible thing they've done on this issue in the
30:49
Speaker 17: last few months is to produce a documentary on Anthony Lowenstein,
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Speaker 17: a Jewish anti Zionist activist in Australia, not focusing on
30:57
Speaker 17: the mainstream and broadly represented Jewish community who are deeply
31:01
Speaker 17: concerned about what's happening in our country. When we have
31:04
Speaker 17: Holocaust survivors say they've never felt less safe in their
31:07
Speaker 17: own country in Australia, that's a national disgrace and the
31:10
Speaker 17: fact our national broadcaster is so uninterested in that is
31:13
Speaker 17: a great shame to them.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and well, said Colin Rubinstein. We've been reporting here
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Speaker 1: on Sky and even left wing media outlet Criche has
31:22
Speaker 1: been reporting about how Anthony Alberizi, in his early parliamentary
31:26
Speaker 1: career in the year two thousand, joined pro Palestinian protesters
31:31
Speaker 1: at a rally in Sydney where Israeli and American flags
31:35
Speaker 1: were burned. Do you think his history as a Palestinian
31:40
Speaker 1: activist has prevented him from calling out some of the
31:45
Speaker 1: aggression and violence that we've seen at protests around the
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Speaker 1: country and from taking a stronger position on anti Semitism.
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Speaker 7: Well, Charry, thanks for having me on. I mean, the
31:57
Speaker 7: Prime Minister's history is no secret. You've divulged, as have others,
32:01
Speaker 7: and the Prime Minister himself today said again he's been
32:05
Speaker 7: a longstanding passionate supporter of the Palestinians and meeting with
32:10
Speaker 7: Arafat in the nineties. I don't think that's original sin.
32:15
Speaker 7: Many people met with Arafat during the Oslo process in
32:18
Speaker 7: the hope that the Palestinians would actually move forward. Except
32:22
Speaker 7: the reality of Israel and the two state outcome. Of course,
32:26
Speaker 7: the great tragedy is as we saw in the explosion
32:28
Speaker 7: of the Intifada, the rejection of the Barak and President
32:32
Speaker 7: Clinton initiatives for two state outcome. We saw the Palestinians
32:36
Speaker 7: lynch towards continued extremists in wanting their own state, not
32:40
Speaker 7: alongside Israel than peace, but instead of Israel, which has
32:43
Speaker 7: remained a continuing problem ever since rejecting the Peace Office
32:47
Speaker 7: the two state outcomes that have been offered repeatedly by
32:53
Speaker 7: Israeli leaders, be It Olmert, President Olmert, even President Prime
32:58
Speaker 7: minist Prime Minister Olmitahu. So the pity is that while
33:04
Speaker 7: the Prime Minister has mellowed somewhat over the years, he
33:08
Speaker 7: opposes the BDS, he accepts the IRA definition of antisemitism,
33:13
Speaker 7: which is criticism of Israel is legitimate, comparing Israel to
33:17
Speaker 7: Nazi Germany or wishing for the elimination of Israel from
33:20
Speaker 7: the river to the sea and an into Fada is inappropriate.
33:24
Speaker 7: He accepts those positions, but I don't know that he's
33:28
Speaker 7: understood the realities of the situation over the last two decades,
33:32
Speaker 7: that the reason we don't get to do a state
33:34
Speaker 7: outcome is the continuing extremism of the Palestinians and the
33:38
Speaker 7: need for him to focus on that rather than giving
33:41
Speaker 7: three kicks to the Palestinians in terms of possible recognition,
33:46
Speaker 7: which will only reinforce that extremism, rather than encourage the
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Speaker 7: moderation that is essential for moving forward to a resolution
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Speaker 7: of christ.
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Speaker 1: Let's bring James Patterson back in James so Earlier in
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Speaker 1: the Evening I revealed that Alberizi met with the late
34:02
Speaker 1: Palestinian president Yasser Arafat in nineteen ninety eight in an
34:05
Speaker 1: all expenses paid sponsored trip by the PLO. He didn't
34:09
Speaker 1: meet with Israeli leaders on the same trip two years later.
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Speaker 1: He then joined pro Palestinian protests during the Second inter Fada,
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Speaker 1: when there were terrorist attacks against Israeli's innocence were killed.
34:23
Speaker 1: Alberzi joined those protests. Flags were burned. What's your reaction
34:27
Speaker 1: to these revelations, Well.
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Speaker 17: Shari, I can't say I'm very surprised that a prime
34:33
Speaker 17: minister who only a few years ago thought it was
34:35
Speaker 17: appropriate to post selfies with an avowed anti Semite in
34:38
Speaker 17: Jeremy Corbyn has been paleling around with and indeed worshiping,
34:41
Speaker 17: Yaser Arafat and taking all expenses paid trips by the
34:45
Speaker 17: Pulsy and the Uratian organization to visit the Middle East.
34:48
Speaker 17: And I want to be fair to him and say, yes,
34:50
Speaker 17: he met Yaser Arafat in nineteen ninety eight. It was
34:52
Speaker 17: before the second into Fada. Except Shari, as you've demonstrated
34:56
Speaker 17: in your program, Anthony Ebenese's views didn't change after the
34:59
Speaker 17: setcond into Farda. In fact, if anything, they just got worse,
35:02
Speaker 17: they hardened even further. And let's remember what the second
35:05
Speaker 17: Intafarta was and what it involved. A fifteen year old
35:08
Speaker 17: Australian citizen, Malki Roth, was at a pizza restaurant in
35:13
Speaker 17: Tel Aviv mining her own business when a Palestinian terrorist
35:16
Speaker 17: walked in and blew him himself up, blew her up
35:19
Speaker 17: and fourteen other innocent people. That's what the second Intofata was.
35:23
Speaker 17: And yet in response to the Second Intovada, Anthony Albernezi
35:26
Speaker 17: thought that the right thing to do was to turn
35:28
Speaker 17: up to rallies where they burned Israeli flags and American flags,
35:31
Speaker 17: where he indulged some of the extremists in the pro
35:34
Speaker 17: Palestinian movement in this country. And he's done it ever since,
35:37
Speaker 17: and I seen it on your program on Monday night.
35:38
Speaker 17: He's the most anti Israel Prime minister we've ever had.
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Speaker 17: I don't say that lightly. I think it's well supported
35:43
Speaker 17: by evidence and you've just provided further evidence.
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Speaker 11: Of it tonight.
35:46
Speaker 1: Just a quick follow up there before I go back
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Speaker 1: to Colin. How do you think this has impacted on
35:51
Speaker 1: his leadership in Australia since October seven?
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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, on the one hand, I think a
35:57
Speaker 17: lot of Australians to assume he's a weak Prime Minister
35:59
Speaker 17: and he's terrified of the Green's political party and that's
36:02
Speaker 17: why he's been unable to unequivocally condemn anti Semitism on
36:06
Speaker 17: its own without linking it to Islamophobia or owner issues.
36:09
Speaker 17: But actually I think he has a deep seated sympathy
36:11
Speaker 17: for the Palacian cause, which goes far beyond a genuine
36:14
Speaker 17: humanitarian sympathy for Palastinian people, which we should all have,
36:18
Speaker 17: and really goes into anti Israel bias and hatred, and
36:22
Speaker 17: I think that is reflected over a long period of time.
36:24
Speaker 17: Some of his statements in the House of Representatives have
36:26
Speaker 17: been filled with bile, have been shockingly biased against Israel,
36:29
Speaker 17: have been totally unbalanced, and I think that has really
36:32
Speaker 17: impacted his ability to stand strong as Prime Minister against
36:35
Speaker 17: a moral crisis in our own country of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 1: Look, we've also seen Penniwong just this week refused to
36:42
Speaker 1: rule out supporting a Palestinian state even if HERMAS still
36:47
Speaker 1: played some role in the government in the governing of Gaza. Colin,
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Speaker 1: what's your reaction to this, Well.
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Speaker 7: It's a complete contradiction in her position, in the government's position.
36:58
Speaker 7: On the one hand, they AMAS is a banned terrorist
37:02
Speaker 7: organization and extreme organization engage in the worst sort of
37:07
Speaker 7: terrorism in recent history, the greatest massacre of Jewis since
37:10
Speaker 7: the Holocaust. It's abhorrent, as the Prime Minister said today,
37:15
Speaker 7: and they shouldn't have a role in the future that.
37:17
Speaker 7: On the other hand, they're referring to the possibility of
37:21
Speaker 7: early recognition of a Palestinian state voting for that UN
37:25
Speaker 7: resolution three weeks ago and previous statements to that effect.
37:30
Speaker 7: It represents a complete contradiction that Hamas will continue to
37:34
Speaker 7: be governing in Gaza and calling for a permanent cease fire.
37:38
Speaker 7: So there's a lack of moral clarity and there's a
37:40
Speaker 7: lack of recognition of what the facts are. Early recognition
37:44
Speaker 7: of Palestinians won't increase the possibility of moving towards the reconciliation.
37:49
Speaker 7: It simply reinforces and terrorism and rewards terrorism, and that's
37:53
Speaker 7: the tragedy in the current situation. I think it is
37:56
Speaker 7: really totally counterproductive to moving towards arisable resolution.
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Speaker 1: All right, well out of time, James Patterson, Colin Rubinstein,
38:04
Speaker 1: thank you both very much. Now, coming up, Australia abandons
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Speaker 1: the cop fight with Elon Musk and you won't believe
38:12
Speaker 1: the so called skilled migrants Albinizi is allowing in the country.
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Speaker 1: More on that with Holly Hughes and Joe Kelly.
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Speaker 4: Next.
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Speaker 1: Well, the woke and anti free speech E Safety Commissioner
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Speaker 1: has finally abandoned her battle against Elon Musk. She was
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Speaker 1: trying to get Twitter or x to remove videos of
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Speaker 1: the Wakely Church stabbing, and then today executive chairman of
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Speaker 1: Newscott Michael Miller gave a speech at the National Press
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Speaker 1: Club calling for tech giants to be held more accountable.
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Speaker 10: These companies have immense power and it is critical that
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Speaker 10: they do not undermine Australian's sovereignty.
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Speaker 1: No company should be too big to regulate. The Australian's
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Speaker 1: National Affairs Editor Joe Kelly and lib Will center to
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Speaker 1: Holly Hughes join me now. Thank you both so much
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Speaker 1: for your time. Look firstly to the e Safety Commissioner, Holly.
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Speaker 1: I mean this was about time. This was an absurd
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Speaker 1: fight to make sure that no one around the world
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Speaker 1: could play a video of a news event.
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Speaker 18: No, it was extraordinary, and I think what made it
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Speaker 18: even more kind of distasteful was this It was definitely
39:25
Speaker 18: some form of terror attack against Christian It was Muslim
39:28
Speaker 18: against Christian and of course that can't be seen. But
39:31
Speaker 18: when it's something else, they're all happy to let it go.
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Speaker 18: I think it was in a little more ideology than
39:38
Speaker 18: the Safety Commissioner would like to acknowledge, but I think
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Speaker 18: it's a good move. I wonder how much it's already
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Speaker 18: cost the taxpayer in what they were trying to do.
39:48
Speaker 18: But X did what they were required to do with
39:51
Speaker 18: regards to GOO, you know, moving around, so technically in
39:56
Speaker 18: Australia couldn't say it, thank you.
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Speaker 1: I'm so technical, Charte.
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Speaker 18: But you know they you know, they did what they
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Speaker 18: could on the GEO blocking and I don't think Australia
40:07
Speaker 18: is allowed to set the laws for everyone else around
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Speaker 18: the world.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about this, Joan, And how does
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Speaker 1: this contrast with what Michael Miller was arguing for at
40:17
Speaker 1: the Press Club today, Joe Kelly, can you hear me?
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Speaker 19: Well, Sherry, I'm not getting anything coming through at the moment, so.
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Speaker 1: Well, we might just stick with difficult. We can hear you,
40:32
Speaker 1: but we might just stick with Holly Hughes. Then, Joe,
40:34
Speaker 1: what did you think.
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Speaker 18: Of, Mike of Michael Miller's comments today with regards to
40:39
Speaker 18: what was occurring with the Safety Commissioner and also the
40:42
Speaker 18: tech giants, see Shari, we can facilitate.
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Speaker 13: Willmen at this work?
40:47
Speaker 19: Well, if I'm coming through, I think what happened is
40:51
Speaker 19: that Elon Musk has won a victory. But I think
40:53
Speaker 19: it's a defeat for common sense and I think that
40:56
Speaker 19: the position that was outlined today by the News Court
40:59
Speaker 19: boss Michael Miller is a sensible position which is trying
41:02
Speaker 19: to bring greater regulation and rules into place for social
41:07
Speaker 19: media companies, including x, Facebook and others. He's talking about
41:13
Speaker 19: a social license which would require these platforms to ablide
41:17
Speaker 19: by community standards and if they don't, there should be
41:22
Speaker 19: a punishment for them. And I think that's a common
41:26
Speaker 19: sense position which most Australians would agree with.
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Speaker 13: I don't think.
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Speaker 19: It's a good idea that vicious stabbing attacks are shared
41:33
Speaker 19: freely online.
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Speaker 1: All right, we have a slight difference of opinion there,
41:37
Speaker 1: but seeing as you can't hear me, it would be
41:38
Speaker 1: a bit difficult for us to have that debate right now, Holly,
41:42
Speaker 1: Let's move on to this downing analysis by Peter van
41:46
Speaker 1: Unslin after it's emerged that labor is letting some type
41:50
Speaker 1: of skilled migrants into the country but not others. So
41:53
Speaker 1: yoga teachers and dog handlers have come in apparently over
41:58
Speaker 1: those who do have quality cations in a trade or
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Speaker 1: emergency workers. According to the Jobs and Skills Australia List,
42:05
Speaker 1: labor is set to reject migrants who are emergency service workers,
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Speaker 1: nurse managers, Disability Service officers and others including beef and
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Speaker 1: sheep farmers. Holly, what's the reason given for this bizarre change.
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Speaker 18: Well, the funny thing is Shari there is no reason
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Speaker 18: being given for the change.
42:26
Speaker 13: But I was in estimates today.
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Speaker 18: One of my shadow portfolios is mental health and Katie
42:32
Speaker 18: Gallagher was there representing the minister and when I asked
42:37
Speaker 18: her whether or not those workers that this labor government
42:40
Speaker 18: says it's prioritizing when it comes to very thin markets
42:44
Speaker 18: in mental health. I mean our mental health system doesn't
42:47
Speaker 18: have gaps, it has chasms. There are significant issues across
42:50
Speaker 18: the board. When I asked her whether or not they
42:53
Speaker 18: were prioritizing on the skills list people that could work
42:55
Speaker 18: in mental health, or they prioritizing yoga instructors, Katie Gallagher
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Speaker 18: got a little snippy with me. I mean she got
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Speaker 18: a little bit upset because I don't think they like
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Speaker 18: being asked that. You know, what they're prioritizing is not
43:11
Speaker 18: what Australians actually want to be prioritized.
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Speaker 13: So I had a quick look.
43:16
Speaker 18: I did notice we could get an acupuncturist in if
43:18
Speaker 18: we need it. Those sharis, so in between yoga and
43:21
Speaker 18: acupuncture will be fine.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'll stick with you, Holly, seeing as Joe can't
43:26
Speaker 1: hear me. Mining magnate Gina Reinhart is urging parents to
43:30
Speaker 1: take a stand against Australian schools which are teaching radical
43:34
Speaker 1: gender ideology. This exclusive from my colleague Caroline Marcus ryan
43:39
Speaker 1: Hart said, I understand a rough estimate is that woke
43:42
Speaker 1: Anti Australia and similar propaganda takes up approximately one third
43:46
Speaker 1: of the school curriculums. What do you make of Gina's
43:50
Speaker 1: intervention in this debate?
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Speaker 18: Well, look, I think she's completely correct. I have a
43:55
Speaker 18: daughter at an all girls school and I certainly don't
43:57
Speaker 18: want her being subjected to this kind of gender ideology.
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Speaker 18: I grew up in Perth, so I know Saint Hilda's
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Speaker 18: very well. I was across the road down this hill
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Speaker 18: at John twenty third. Saint Hilda's was a very conservative
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Speaker 18: girls school and I'm sure the parents that send their
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Speaker 18: children to Saint Hilda's or I might get in trouble
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Speaker 18: for this. Snelders as it was known to the Perth colloquial.
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Speaker 18: It was a very conservative school and to see this
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Speaker 18: kind of ideology entering is not what parents are paying
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Speaker 18: tens of thousands of dollars per year for their children
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Speaker 18: to be educated in and I think there was also
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Speaker 18: some elements of what was raised by Missus rein Hart
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Speaker 18: around the spaces that were available to those teachers who
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Speaker 18: were transgender or identified as non binary. I think parents
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Speaker 18: have a right when they choose an independent school, when
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Speaker 18: they're paying considerable money in private school fees, to really
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Speaker 18: understand what the school is teaching, what the school is advocation,
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Speaker 18: and not pushing an ideology that those children would not
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Speaker 18: be exposed to in their home environment.
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Speaker 1: Whether it's private, independent schools or public schools. You'd think that,
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Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing is your children actually
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Speaker 1: getting an education instead of having one set of ideology
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Speaker 1: pushed down their throat.
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Speaker 18: Hoally, you know some basic math, real educator, you know,
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Speaker 18: basically English in general history.
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Speaker 1: It'd be really nice excarting point all right, Holly Husa
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Speaker 1: and Joe Kelly, if you can hear me, thank you
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Speaker 1: both very much. Now, after the break, Harry and Meghan
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Speaker 1: snubbed by the palace again, We'll cross live to London
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Speaker 1: for the latest with the royal family. Stay tuned, Welcome
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Speaker 1: back well as expected, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle haven't
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Speaker 1: made the cut for the Trooping of the Color the
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Speaker 1: second year in a row. They haven't been invited, but
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Speaker 1: there are rumors that Princess Kate might attend the ceremony
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Speaker 1: if she feels well enough.
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Speaker 13: Well.
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Speaker 1: I'm joined now by ITV News Royal editor Chris Ship. Chris,
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Speaker 1: do you think there's any merit to this rumor? Because
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Speaker 1: we previously heard that Kate would be out of action
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Speaker 1: when it comes to public appearances for most of this year.
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Speaker 5: That's still the position when it comes to Kate. She
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Speaker 5: is still receiving what she calls her preventative chemotherapy, and
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Speaker 5: that's basically meant she's been unable to attend any of
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Speaker 5: her events. However, there is a particular event this weekend
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Speaker 5: which is the kind of final dress rehearsal for Trooping
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Speaker 5: the Color, which most people know is the King's official
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Speaker 5: birthday parade on the streets of London, and that final
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Speaker 5: dress rehearsal was meant to be attended by Kate because
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Speaker 5: she's the Colonel in chief of the Irish Guards. We've
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Speaker 5: been told she's not going to attend that because of
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Speaker 5: her health concerns, but they didn't rule out her attending
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Speaker 5: the actual Trooping the Color ceremony a week later. That's
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Speaker 5: not to say she'll be there, they just didn't rule
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Speaker 5: it out, and that's how this rumor has crept up
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Speaker 5: that she might choose Trooping the Color as her moment
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Speaker 5: to re enter the public free. I mean, I have
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Speaker 5: to say, I still think that's highly unlikely. You've got
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Speaker 5: someone who's having cancer treatment and has had that massive
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Speaker 5: operation previously, So it's just that they haven't ruled it out,
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Speaker 5: and that's how this rumor's managed to spread.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course the most important thing is her health.
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Speaker 1: And now reportedly King Charles was miffed when Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Rishi Sunac called a general election. You think he would
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Speaker 1: have been advised before Richie Sunac did this, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 5: Well, he gets a little bit of notice, but Richie
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Speaker 5: Sunac managed to catch out most of his own members
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Speaker 5: of Parliament, let alone the rest of the country when
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Speaker 5: he decided to have a surprise general election here in
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Speaker 5: the UK in a couple of weeks time. Look, the
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Speaker 5: position with the royal family is they can't overshadow the politician.
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Speaker 5: So if there's a big event like I'm in France
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Speaker 5: at the moment. There are commemorations for D Day. Those
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Speaker 5: things are still going ahead. Trooping the color we've just
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Speaker 5: talked about, that's still going ahead as well, but the
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Speaker 5: royal family is having to dial down other things. For example,
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Speaker 5: if they were to go to a certain part of
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Speaker 5: the country and get breast coverage at the same time
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Speaker 5: as a politician.
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Speaker 1: All right, christ Hip, we are losing you, but we
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Speaker 1: are out of time in any case. Thank you everyone
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Speaker 1: for your company tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock.
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Speaker 1: And right now, in a minute, here is Paul Murray.