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Texas' Strong Season Opener, Big Ten Clock Controversy, Memphis PxP Voice Dave Woloshin · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: From Darrell K. Royal, Texas Memorial Stadium in Austin, it's
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  Speaker 1: the season opener. The 2026 college football season begins today
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  Speaker 1: with the Texas Longhorns taking on the Texas State Bobcats.
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  Speaker 1: On first down, with Smothers the running back, Manning will
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  Speaker 1: take the snap from under center, turns, hands it.
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  Speaker 2: To Hollywood Smothers, sweeps outside, breaks free to the.
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  Speaker 1: Left side across midfield. Down the sidelines, the 30, 25, 20, 15,
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  Speaker 1: and near the 10-yard line. nifty moves by Hollywood Smothers
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  Speaker 1: before Amari and Atwood ran him down but he'll take
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  Speaker 1: it all the way down close to the 10 yard
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  Speaker 1: line and it will be first down for Texas what
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  Speaker 1: a huge run all the way down to the 11
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  Speaker 1: yard line so it is a game of 45 yards.
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  Speaker 2: On third down and five, Brown shifts to the left
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  Speaker 2: side of Manning, arch for the snap, back the throw,
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  Speaker 2: lofts it in the.
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  Speaker 1: Corner, and he ends on there to make the catch
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  Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Ken Coleman, his first touchdown as a
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  Speaker 1: Texas Longhorns, and the Longhorns score for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in 2026.
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  Speaker 2: Manning out of his shotgun. Raleigh Brown offset to his left.
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  Speaker 1: Turns and sweeping back to the left side is Wingo
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  Speaker 1: to the 5, to the goal line. Touchdown, Texas. Ryan Wingo,
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  Speaker 1: a little jet sweep action to the left side. Takes
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  Speaker 1: it across for his first score of the brand new season.
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  Speaker 1: Raleigh Brown gets the toss to the left side. Turns inside,
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  Speaker 1: a 15-team 5-2. Early foul, picked up two huge blocks,
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  Speaker 1: he turned that play in the alley for his first
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  Speaker 1: touchdown as a Longhorn. It's a handoff, Atkins, Adachi Atkins,
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  Speaker 1: the ball's loose, picked up, picking.
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  Speaker 3: Up the fumble and bringing it down to the 30,
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  Speaker 3: to the 20, Grayson Littlewood, touchdown Texas! The ball just
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  Speaker 3: popped out, got knocked loose, Littlewood just scooped it up
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  Speaker 3: and took it to the house.
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  Speaker 1: Manning from the gun. Has to snap. March back to
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  Speaker 1: throw with some time.
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  Speaker 4: Looking.
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  Speaker 1: Going to throw it deep. Down the left sideline. He's
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  Speaker 1: got Wingo open.
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  Speaker 5: Right in the gaps.
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  Speaker 1: Inside the 29-ounce. Wingo just flew past the corner. Craig Royal.
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  Speaker 1: And takes it downfield. Will mark him out at the
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  Speaker 1: 22-yard line. Line up for the pistol. And Manning looks
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  Speaker 1: to throw third and two down the sidelines, looking for
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  Speaker 1: and making the catch right along the boundary is Coleman.
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  Speaker 1: Kim Coleman targeted it all the way. Amari and Atwood
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  Speaker 1: have the coverage, but Coleman hauls it in down at
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  Speaker 1: the Texas State 23-yard.
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  Speaker 2: Line is where they'll mark that. It's a 39-yard strike.
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  Speaker 1: Manning from the shotgun, arched with a snap.
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  Speaker 3: Looking, still looking, sends it over the middle, Coleman, a catch,
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  Speaker 3: and a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: Cam Coleman leaping into the air, pulls it down for
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  Speaker 1: his first touchdown as a Texas Longhorn, a 20-yard strike.
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  Speaker 1: Looking over the Texas defense, has the snap back. The
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  Speaker 1: pro looks, steps up the pocket. He'll go down. Ball loose.
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  Speaker 1: Longhorns have it. Colin Simmons recovers it.
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  Speaker 2: They strip the ball from Brad Jackson, and Texas will
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  Speaker 2: take over in Texas State territory. Has the snap.
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  Speaker 1: Looks to throw. Swings it out to Hollywood Smothers. A
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  Speaker 1: catch at the 10. Makes a move to the 5.
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  Speaker 3: Smothers to the goal line.
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  Speaker 1: Touchdown, Texas. On third down and 13 from a 14-yard line.
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  Speaker 6: Smothers.
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  Speaker 1: A catch. A waggle. A wiggle. And in for the score.
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  Speaker 2: He has Raleigh Brown offset to his right. Two receivers
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  Speaker 2: wide left. One on the short side split right.
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  Speaker 1: Has the snap. Turns hands off to Brown. Breaks outside.
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  Speaker 1: Raleigh Brown.
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  Speaker 6: Touchdown, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Sprints that one into the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Does Raleigh Brown his second rushing touchdown of the ballgame.
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  Speaker 1: Good snap and hold. Spedic's kick on the way, and
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  Speaker 1: the kick is good. Knocks it through to Spedic. So
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  Speaker 1: his first try kicking for the Longhorns is on the
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  Speaker 1: field goal side. Goes through from the seven-yard line. Hands
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  Speaker 1: it to Simon. Cuts inside. James Simon to the goal line. Touchdown, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: James Simon, a sophomore from Shreveport, Louisiana, tacks on one
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  Speaker 1: more Longhorns score. Longhorns win big today. Final score here
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  Speaker 1: this afternoon in the 2026 college football season opener. The
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  Speaker 1: Texas Longhorns 59, the Texas State Bobcats 7. That's the
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  Speaker 1: way the 2026 college football season begins for the Texas
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  Speaker 1: Longhorns on the plus side, and that's always a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: the wrap-up of the Longhorn season opening 59-7 win, over
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  Speaker 2: the Texas State Bobcats. This is a Longhorns Monday edition
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  Speaker 2: And then Harge comes over and joins me for our
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  Speaker 2: We let you hear all of the all of the
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  Speaker 1: So we do that.
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  Speaker 2: we'll be talking about NFL coverage. as well because the
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  Speaker 2: national football league begins its season this week, starting action
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday night, Superbowl rematch with the defending Superbowl champion, Seattle
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks against New England Patriots on Wednesday, the Los Angeles
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Rams and San Francisco 49ers play on Thursday. And that
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  Speaker 2: And then of course the rest of the NFL schedule, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys Sunday night, their season opener against the New York
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  Speaker 2: season gets underway. But Longhorns Monday, a lot of zeroing
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  Speaker 2: in on the Longhorns. Their opponent for this week, who
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  Speaker 2: just happens to be the number one ranked team in
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  Speaker 2: the nation, the Ohio State Buckeyes, and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: college football. So plenty to get to here on this Monday.
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  Speaker 2: I know you had a football game to call on
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  Speaker 2: Friday night. I did manage to catch some of it
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube, but nice bounce back by the Bastrop Bears.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, playing on the road without their quarterback, able to
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  Speaker 7: get a win, get to 1-1. It was a 28-18 final.
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  Speaker 7: Bastrop defeating Colleen Chaparral over at Joseph Searles Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: And now there's going to be quite a challenge this week.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Brenham?
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  Speaker 6: They'll welcome Belton this week.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a challenge, too. So that'll be the home
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  Speaker 1: opener for the Bears?
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  Speaker 7: Yep, home for the next two. They've got Belton and Midland.
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  Speaker 7: I'm very happy.
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  Speaker 6: The second one of those that I mentioned is a
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  Speaker 6: home game.
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  Speaker 1: The Midland High game? The Midland High game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because that's a bit of a drive. From here,
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  Speaker 2: I know from the Metroplex, it used to take me,
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  Speaker 2: if I was going out there to do a ball game,
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  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood of five hours, something like that, I
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  Speaker 2: would miss. venture to guess it's at least that from
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  Speaker 2: here if not longer that's almost hotel territory almost so
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: so anyway at least you don't worry about that this
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  Speaker 2: season so and then and then of course you were
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  Speaker 2: a part of our Longhorns game day coverage and from
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  Speaker 2: down on Bevo Boulevard on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: How'd all that go?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 7: And for everyone that came by the area where Winship
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  Speaker 7: Circle kind of used to be, now it's more flat
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  Speaker 7: and spread out.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Winship area.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the Hook'Em Hangout, the Winship area, which is partially
• 10:32
  Speaker 7: under construction, but there's still plenty of food trucks around.
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  Speaker 6: And we had a fantastic time.
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  Speaker 7: It was great seeing so many of you out and
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  Speaker 7: about joining us for the show. We had some Texas
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  Speaker 7: State fans booing at different times.
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  Speaker 6: That created a good game day atmosphere for us.
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  Speaker 7: And yeah it was a lot of fun to to
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  Speaker 7: join uh harge and henry and and cameron and the guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's good um all the while everybody trying to
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  Speaker 2: stay hydrated and cool it's pretty hot wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: It yeah that that was uh that was a team
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  Speaker 7: effort and shout out to our promotions team as well
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  Speaker 7: um should shout out giselle jacob eric and everybody that
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  Speaker 7: came out and helped us with that and made sure
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  Speaker 7: we were staying cool with that big old cooler behind
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  Speaker 7: us full of waters and Gatorades to keep the crew
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  Speaker 7: ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Very nice. Okay. So there was that.
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  Speaker 2: Then, of course, we had the game broadcast and had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun by then climbing back into the
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  Speaker 2: saddle again to do that and working with Roger Wallace
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  Speaker 2: and Will Matthews down on the sidelines and our crew,
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  Speaker 2: all of our crew, our engineer, Greg Klingensmith, our spotter,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Way, our statistician, Steve Leach, with Jason Wade down
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  Speaker 2: on the sidelines with a parabolic microphone.
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  Speaker 1: So it all went really, really well. So it was good.
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  Speaker 1: Had a good time. It's off and rolling.
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  Speaker 2: And Texas looked impressive. And now they get ready for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. So toward that end, coming up, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to bring you the press conference in, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: cut-down form. You'll hear it, the comments from Head Coach
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: Steve Sarkeesian from the press conference. Later this hour, we
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  Speaker 2: do have Inconceivable. because there is some inconceivable. There's one thing,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know whether to classify this as junk food
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: or alcohol. The answer is probably both. My wife turned
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  Speaker 2: this one up and sent that to me. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's some other things. And then we'll do this in
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  Speaker 2: the three o'clock hour. We'll dive into the whole Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: Western Michigan thing and the Big Ten officials because For
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  Speaker 2: all of, and I don't want to light a fire
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  Speaker 2: under anybody, but you need to know this. For all
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  Speaker 2: of the fuss and falderol and all of that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, the Big Ten officials, let me put it
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  Speaker 2: this way.
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  Speaker 1: The clock, the one that counts, was correct.
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  Speaker 7: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: In what they did, it was correctly adjudicated by adding
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  Speaker 2: the extra second.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let me finish.
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  Speaker 2: The clock that's official was correct in the way it
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  Speaker 2: was interpreted, but it created a gigantic problem in that
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the world, including yours truly, sitting in
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  Speaker 2: my chair, getting home Saturday night after doing the game,
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  Speaker 2: And everybody else, we saw a different clock. And therein
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  Speaker 2: is the problem. There should not be a different clock.
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  Speaker 2: The two were not synced. And that remains the big,
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  Speaker 2: to this point, unanswered question. And again, I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: some of the detailed explanations.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you have seen the actual rehashing from the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten's side of things.
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  Speaker 2: And from their explanations and all of that, and Mike
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  Speaker 2: Pereira was asked about it yesterday, and he said from
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  Speaker 2: that perspective, they were correct in doing what they did.
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  Speaker 2: But that does not address the problem of what created
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  Speaker 2: all the controversy.
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  Speaker 1: So see if you can stick with me on that.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to it into all of our perspectives, mine included,
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  Speaker 2: who thought Western Michigan got absolutely robbed.
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  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people still feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: There was a misdeed done, but it wasn't the misdeed
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  Speaker 2: that most folks think.
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  Speaker 1: It was a completely different kind of misdeed. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to all of that.
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  Speaker 2: If you would like to comment, not only on that
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  Speaker 2: or on the long horns, or if you've got a question,
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  Speaker 2: feel free to join us on our text line. All
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  Speaker 2: you have to do is text the word Texas, followed
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  Speaker 2: by your question or comment to 81530. So you text
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  Speaker 2: the word Texas. followed by your question or comment to 81530.
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  Speaker 2: Standard messaging and data rates may apply. So we'll get
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  Speaker 2: into that certainly in the 3 o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 1: And some other topics.
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  Speaker 2: 4 o'clock hour, more from SART. Also, there is one,
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  Speaker 2: to this point, I'm going to do one more check
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  Speaker 2: and make sure about this. There's one FBS team that
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  Speaker 2: could be a playoff team that is already 2-0. And
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  Speaker 2: there could be two if the other one wins tonight.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, there's only one. And we're going to
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  Speaker 2: visit with a play-by-play voice of that team coming up
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  Speaker 2: in the 4 o'clock hour. But up next, we'll hear
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  Speaker 2: from the head coach from Sark's news conference here on
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  Speaker 2: a Longhorns Monday on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone.
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  Speaker 1: And the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 2: I truly think that the reason that the producer, Jake Herman,
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  Speaker 2: selected George Harrison's My Sweet Lord to bump back with
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  Speaker 2: is simply because of the line, I really want to
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  Speaker 2: see you, because the camera wasn't working at the time.
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  Speaker 2: But now you got it working. So you say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I really want to see you. Now everybody who's watching
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube can see you.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 6: We can get that. We can go with that.
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  Speaker 7: We could also go with today, the 50th year anniversary
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  Speaker 7: of the plagiarism lawsuit over this song.
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  Speaker 2: I was starting to say, you're playing the song that
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  Speaker 2: launched a huge plagiarism lawsuit. For folks who never heard
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  Speaker 2: the song, He's So Fine by the Chiffons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: George Harrison says it had nothing to do with that song.
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  Speaker 2: But the similarities... are quite, quite stark how, how truly.
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  Speaker 1: Similar they are.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know that I've ever heard that song either, so.
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  Speaker 1: Pull it up. Pull it up.
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  Speaker 2: So you hear how this is going to, really want
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  Speaker 2: to see you, really want to, and George's song is,
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  Speaker 2: is Eastern religion based. Because at the end of the song,
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  Speaker 2: you hear him saying Hare Krishna when he was, when
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  Speaker 2: he was aligning with them for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's more, he's, This is it right here.
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  Speaker 1: Keep listening. Instead of.
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  Speaker 2: My sweet Lord, he's so fine. Tell me if this
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  Speaker 2: doesn't sound.
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  Speaker 1: Like the other one.
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  Speaker 6: Right down to the backup singers. That's pretty close.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I get it.
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  Speaker 6: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, launched a lawsuit, and George Harrison and
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  Speaker 2: Apple Corps wound up paying quite a bit as a
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  Speaker 2: result of that. Anyway, okay, we're on a Longhorns Monday here.
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  Speaker 2: Let's jump right into it. Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkeesian.
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  Speaker 2: The weekly news conference, we brought it to you live
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  Speaker 2: as we do every Monday morning around 1130 AM. This
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  Speaker 2: was earlier today, but here it is in the cut-down fashion.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, starting with his opening comments.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, I'd be remiss if I didn't thank
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  Speaker 8: our fans. What an amazing turnout. Under those conditions, where
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: I think we were 105 heat index, on the field,
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: the field reached 160 degrees for our players. But when
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: you looked in that stadium at the opening kickoff and
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: just the atmosphere, the energy, was really awesome. So thank
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: you all, Longhorn Nation, for your support. I know I
• 18:56
  Speaker 8: don't need to be asking for you this Saturday night.
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  Speaker 8: I know we'll be there ready to rock and roll,
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  Speaker 8: so it should be a fun night for everybody that way.
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: I think coming out of the game, we talked about
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: playing 52 guys in the first half I thought was huge.
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: We played upwards into the 70s for the total of
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: the ball game. A lot of guys played. A lot
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  Speaker 8: of guys got opportunities. A lot of guys got touches.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I know that some of this is redundant,
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: but man, you think about the five turnovers essentially we
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: created defensively in a variety of ways, right? With Biles
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: with the punch out, Grayson scooping and scoring, Murad Watson,
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: you know, with the forced fumble, Colin with a great
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: job on the recovery, the interception by Biles, the two
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  Speaker 8: fourth down stops, but all those, you know, that's 35
• 19:44
  Speaker 8: points in a game. And that's playing complimentary football. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: know y'all have heard me say that before playing complimentary
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: football working together i thought offensively you know the third
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: down efficiency was really good um you know i think
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: arch was like six or seven on third down something
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  Speaker 8: like that the short yardage offense That's how you're able
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: to extend drives. And then when we didn't, there were
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: some that were intentional, you know, going two for two
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: on fourth down. So I guess it's always a good
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: day when you don't punt. You know, it'd been nice
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: to get Mac out there. I know that sounds crazy
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: to say, and that was part of why, you know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: we put G out there to kick that field goal
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: just so he can make a field goal in DKR
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: as we start to move forward. But all in all,
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: it was a good win for us. It was a
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: good start to the season. But we also know the
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: challenge that we have this week. Ohio State, they're number
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: one in the country for a reason. Ryan has done
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: a tremendous job with that program since taking over, obviously,
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: national champs a couple years ago. Brought in Matt Patricia
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: last season, led the country in just about every defensive
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: statistical category.
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  Speaker 5: This year he.
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: Brings in Arthur Smith. So it's a nice luxury to have,
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: having two NFL head coaches on your staff as your
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: play callers. And they've reloaded. You know, they're extremely talented.
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  Speaker 8: I think we all know who Jeremiah Smith is offensively,
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: but Julian Sands, a heck of a player. You know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: Bo Jackson running the ball. They got a veteran O-line.
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: They've added some receivers to the mix, losing Carnell Tate.
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: And then defensively, they've reloaded as well. You know, they
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: got some really good players and some guys that have
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: grown up you know, with McLean, Matthews, those guys, you know, Pierce,
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: but also the addition of an Allegro, the addition of
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: a John Walker. They still have Kenyatta Jackson. They still
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: have Devin Sanchez. So this is a very, very talented
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: football team that's well coached. But these are the games
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: that you love to be part of, you know, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: we're fortunate that we get to be part of these
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: games as a staff, as players, as a fan base.
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  Speaker 8: We're obviously looking forward to the opportunity. Should be a
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: heck of a week.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: All right, so those comments from Sark led into the questions.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And first out of the box, asked about his evaluation
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of the running game for Texas, which had some bright
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: spots like the first carry of the game, Hollywood Smothers
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: going 45 yards, and then had some.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Times when the run got stuffed. And so he was
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: asked about that and also his thoughts on Ohio State's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: interior defense.
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  Speaker 8: So from a run game perspective, you know, I thought
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: we had a good plan going in. As always, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: when you get into some of those games, there's a
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: lot of slant and stunt and moving. And there's some
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: things where we didn't have great angles on plays as
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: the game went on. There was others where I felt
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: like we could have strained a little bit more in
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: the run game. And that's all parties involved. You know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: I'm not talking just about the O-line. There's opportunities for
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: tight ends. There's opportunities for receivers that could have created
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: some bigger runs. I thought at times the runners ran
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: it good. I thought at other times. We dance too much.
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: And so I think the byproduct of everybody looking at
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: the tape, all right, now where can we improve from
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: week one to week two? And that's going to be
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: needed in a game like this to have the ability
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: to have balance in these types of games. But again,
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: everybody's got to take a step forward from week one
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: to week two. And generally that can happen as long
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: as we're coachable and then as long as we apply
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: the things that we need to apply to try to
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: get better. As far as Ohio State's interior defensive line,
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: they're deep. Uh, they're talented. You know, Larry Johnson has
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: been there a long, long time as a heck of
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: a coach. Um, and so I know they lost some
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: of what was the veteran guys. They still have some, um, but, uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: they're good, you know, and, and they, they're a penetrating group.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They're active.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: Um, they do a good job of, of, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 8: collapsing the pocket in the past game and they're stout
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: in the run. So it's a heck of a challenge.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Um, you know, Julian saying, of course, as the Ohio
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: state quarterback, it is number one target clearly. is Jeremiah Smith,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the junior who has just been lighting up opposing defenses
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: since his freshman campaign. And Sark was asked, what makes
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Smith so special and how can you limit what he can.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Do to you on a football field?
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I think one, he garners your attention
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: and he deserves our attention. It's arguably the best player
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: in college football. And the challenge is with him, it's,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: the size, speed, catch radius, you know? He's a big
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: physical guy who can cover a lot of ground in
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: a short amount of time. And it doesn't always look
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: like it, but it almost feels like it. Like you
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: can feel his presence on the field. I know I
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: said this about Cam, but we were talking about Cam's
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: catch radius. When you just talk about body structure, this
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: guy looks like Julio Jones. This guy looks like A.J.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Brown.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Like when it physically... And he can cover ground. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: then because he's so strong, 50-50 catches are very difficult
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: with him. And so, you know, you have to have
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: a plan. But I think like anything, when you have
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: a plan against somebody like him, You can't just throw
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: all fastballs. Even as good of a fastball as you have,
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: if that's all you got, sooner or later, they're gonna
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: hit it. So we've gotta be able to mix our
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: pitches up and how we defend him and how we
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: defend the scheme. Because Arthur and Ryan, they believe in
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: running the ball and they've got a good runner and
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: a good old line. They've got other weapons. And so
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: we've got to be diligent in having our ability to
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: throw different pitches and then be sound in the back
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: end to make sure that we're aware of where number
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: four is. And he garners that. Not every game do
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: you go into where you say, hey, we need to
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: know where this guy is every snap. We better know
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: where number four is on every snap.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And one more this hour from Sarcoma. Again, we'll hear
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the recap of this press conference throughout the course of
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the program this afternoon. This question is understandable why it
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: was asked, even though we're so far out from it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And I'm speaking of the college football playoff, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: because of seeing results from over the weekend.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: It was just, you know, first full weekend in the books.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, the already analyses have
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: come out that show Which teams would be the 12
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: teams in the playoff right now? It's only one week
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in the book. But leave it to Heather Dinich to
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: come up with that and a couple other sources as well.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: I texted my dad, who, by the way, is celebrating
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: a birthday today. I texted him one snap into the
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Longhorn game.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Who's in?
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Exactly.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So the question was asked of Sark about the magnitude
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of this game.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, Ohio State.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: For the moment, number five, Texas, the updated rankings don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: come out until tomorrow because of tonight's game between SMU
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and Florida State. But what about the magnitude of this game,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: given the implications that it could, could have on the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: college football playoff down the road?
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: I don't think I need to really like spend so
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: much energy and time on, um, What does this game mean, right?
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: I think as a competitor, it's like, hey, we get
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: an opportunity to play the number one team in the country,
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: a team we've had two battles with the last two years,
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: and we know what that takes. I'm not so consumed
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: with what the end result might be four months down
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: the road. We've got other games to go play that
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: can contribute one way or the other to our success
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: that we have in the season. What I am excited
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: about is as a competitor and for our team, the
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: locker room and building full of competitors that we have
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: is that we get an opportunity to go against the best.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: And how are we going to perform against the best?
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: And because our best is going to be needed and
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: our best is going to be needed for four quarters.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: And so that's what excites me. Like I said, I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: not so consumed with what could be down the road.
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: We got 10 other games to go play that'll contribute
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: to that. This is about the life of a competitor
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: and putting yourself in the arena and performing under what
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: would deem stressful conditions, right? Because If you're wrong, they
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: can hurt you. But if we're right, we can hurt them.
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: And so that's the exciting part of preparing for that
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: at DKR in front of our crowd. I bet there's
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: close to 20 million people that watch this game. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: so that's pretty cool when you think about it that way.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: We'll hear more from Sark coming up throughout the course
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: of the program this afternoon. Up next, inconceivable for Monday
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• 29:32
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• 29:36
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• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: That could go any number of directions. But yes, if
• 29:43
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• 29:46
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• 29:53
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• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And again, in the four o'clock hour, we're going to.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Take a look at the team that has a leg
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: up on all the rest of college football to make
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the playoff simply by the fact that they're 2-0 already.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And it's not an FBS. I mean, it is an
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: FBS team. It's not a Power 4 team. It's a
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: G6 team. And we're going to visit with their play-by-play
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: voice coming up next hour as well. But I wanted
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: to get to this, the Michigan story. because it has
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: obviously become quite a story. And I'm talking, of course,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: about the game Saturday night where Michigan, you know, was
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: taking on Western Michigan and it looked like Western Michigan
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: had pulled off the 12-7 upset. It looks for all
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the world as though that they had pulled off the upset.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: As Bryce Underwood was trying to lead a comeback down
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the field in the waning seconds. And with nine seconds left,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: rolled to the right off a snap, fired to the
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: end zone. And all of us, all of us who
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: were watching it, saw the clock hit zero. And then
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: a Western Michigan player in the back of the end
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: zone touched it. And it was incomplete.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: And that was it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And Western Michigan was on the field celebrating all this stuff.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And then they said it's being checked for further review.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And my first thought was, for what? And I thought, oh,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: they just want to make sure the time ran out. Well,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: then you could see it. I forgot, who was calling
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the game on NBC? Do you remember who it was?
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Noah Eagle and Todd Blackledge.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: And they were like, well, this is done. You know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: this is, you know, this is, you know. And we
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: all felt the same way. And then they said, there's
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: one second left on the clock. We're like, what? How
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: do they get that? How do they get one second left?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And then they run another play. And then one second
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: makes all the difference in the world because it's a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Hail Mary and it's pulled down for a game-winning touchdown
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to give Michigan a 13-12 victory. So then immediately, there
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: was all manner of attempts to either explain or figure
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it out. They went to Terry McCauley to get his
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: thoughts on it. He said he didn't understand it because
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: he was convinced that the game clock that we saw
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: on television there was in fact synced up with the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: official clock, which is through the Big Ten Conference.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So he didn't know. And then what preceded the rest
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: of the deep night Saturday into Sunday, was this volley
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of anger and confusion and shock and indignation and all
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: of those kinds of things, feelings and things like that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: over why and how this could have happened when it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: was clear to all of us watching.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: That time had expired before there was even a touch.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: So Underwood's pass went beyond the end zone and into
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the arms of Western Michigan safety Micah Davis but the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: replay clock that showed zero with the ball still in
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the air, but Big Ten replay officials did put a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: second back on the clock.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Wolverines got another chance. J.J. Buchanan hauled it in, 47-yard touchdown,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and they went 13-12.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: In addition to all of the things that went on
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: with this, the president of the University of Western Michigan,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Russ Cavalhuna, I think is how it's pronounced, had.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: A conversation with Big Ten officials who explained to him
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: what everybody saw on the clock was not the actual time. Now,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I'll come back to that in a moment, but just
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: saying that alone makes no sense, but I'll come back
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to that. Then they went on to say, here, and
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: they gave the university president a video or outlook and said,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: this is how it really looked. And when he saw it,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: it shows when Davis in the end zone actually makes
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: contact with the ball out of play, that there's still
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: one tick on the clock.
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: By the way, can you believe there's another Davis in
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: the end zone involved in an extra one second play?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How about that?
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Sorry, dad. I know it's your birthday. I'm a fan.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Exactly.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: Rod Bramlett.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: The late Rod Bramlett.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So anyway, so, uh, At the time, the first quote
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that came out from Kavahuna, the Western Michigan president, was
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: they provided me video with it and I accept it
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And it seemed, you know, even
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: though everybody's still very upset about it and said Western
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Michigan robbed and all that kind of stuff. Here's a
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: university president saying I accept their explanation. I've seen the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: video proof.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Now, ESPN went back and had a conversation with him
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and said, really?
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You're good with this, huh?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So then, further cross-examined, if you will, the university president
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: from Western Michigan, Russ Cavalhuna, then said he did not
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: think the replay process was, in his words, quote, is
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: as good as it could be, end quote.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Here's what he said. He said, and.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: That's because What the TV viewers see in a pivotal
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: question is different than what the review process shows. Is
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: there a real reason why we can't have those things equal?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: And if there is, let's try and fix that. And
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: if there isn't a real reason why we can't have
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: those things synced up, then we should sync them up
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: so that everybody who's watching at home doesn't start to
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: wonder what happened. So he said he spoke to Big
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Ten officials after the game, including the conference commissioner, Tony Petitti,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to get an explanation for why the clock that the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Big Ten reviewed was different than the one showed on
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the NBC telecast. And this is the university president's quote.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: If you look at what they saw, then you reach
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the conclusion they reached. However, if you look at what
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the broadcasters broadcast, you reach a different conclusion. I think
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it would be good to ask ourselves, can we sync
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: those up so that the viewers could see what the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: officials would be looking at? Cavalcuna added that if there
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: was an appeals process, he would ask for a review
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to determine whether the Big Ten's clock was more accurate
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: than the one shown on the broadcast.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: There is no mechanism to appeal. He said that just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist. If there were an opportunity to do that,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: what I would ask is, hey, are we sure that
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the sync that the Big Ten used is better than
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the sync that the broadcasters and all my fans saw?
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: He reiterated that he didn't believe that the Big Ten
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was trying to change the process or apply it inequitably.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: But he does believe his players deserve evidence showing why
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten's clock was more than accurate. The Big
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Ten stood by the statement at issue two hours after
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the game. This was their quote.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It was determined that Davis started his jump from an
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: established out-of-bounds position with his left foot and made contact
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: with the ball with one second remaining on the clock.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: A side-by-side view of the play and the clock using
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a different shot of the game clock in the stadium
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: was used to determine the final ruling. The commissioner of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the Mid-American Conference, John Steinbrecher, earlier said that the review
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: process was properly followed and that he thought, and though
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: he might not like the outcome, it was ultimately correct.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I have confidence in the integrity of the process and
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the integrity of the people involved. The process was followed,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and given that, you have to go with the decision.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: So.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: That's where that is.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: Where do you come down on fans being able to
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: see and hear a more transparent look at the replay process?
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I know the ACC tried this.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I come down where I always come down on this thing,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the whole thing about replay review in the first place
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and how I feel about the ABS system. If it
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: gets the call right, it should be in the game.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And for people who say, well, human error, is part
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of the process. Human error is part of the game.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be. Doesn't have to be.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Human error, if you can remove as much human error.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Out as possible, it makes the game better. Why? Well, A,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: first and foremost, you can get more calls correct or
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the call correct. B, it removes any suspicion on the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: part of the unfortunate party that something nefarious went on,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that something was done to get them. And it also takes.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Away the people in the degenerate world who think that
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: it's all gambling-based as well.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Oh, Kalshi made the call.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That kind of stuff. If you can get it right,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: get it right. Now, here's the question I've had all along.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: since Saturday night before I even saw the Big Ten's explanation,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: because what I guessed is ultimately what the deal was.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I said, well, for them to go to the replay
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: review and say that on their review, There was a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: second left. That tells me those clocks were not in sync,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: which begs the question, why?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: How?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Why were they not in sync? Supposedly, it's done before
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: every game, and it's in sync. Not only that, not
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: only that, you may remember that on the play before
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the first attempt at the Hail Mary when they spiked
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the ball, the NBC clock, what we also showed, 8 seconds.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: The official came on, the referee said, please reset the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: game clock to nine seconds. Well, if you're resetting to nine,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't it be synced at that point?
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: 9.0000.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Why would it not be synced at that point?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: So my question is, does that mean that on the snap,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the television replay system was quicker to start the clock
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: than the Big Ten?
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Maybe. And why would that be?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: So those are the unanswered questions. And those are the
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: reasons why this remains a mess right now. So, you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that's the problem. I believe the Big Ten when they say, look,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: here's our replay.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Here's what it shows. I saw it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I understand why they said what they said. It shows
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: one second as Davis is touching the ball. It's Those
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: two views are synced, but it's not synced with the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: television thing. And why is the television telecast not synced
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: with it?
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: And it didn't look to me like the television broadcast
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: started too early. Did you check if the in-stadium clock,
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: the one the Big Ten officials are using, did you.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Check if that started too late?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. So that's it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: By the quote-unquote hometown timekeeper?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: You're right, exactly. Now, here's the other thing that's come
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: down out of this.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: There was another thing that's come down. I think this
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: might have been on the American Athletic Conference. I have
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: to look it up. And it had like the most
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: controversial endings and those kinds of things in college football.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: The second or third one on the list was the
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Texas-Nebraska 2009 Big 12 Championship. I talked about this last week, ironically,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: before this Michigan thing ever happened, where Texas... is trailing
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: 12 to 10. And ironically, same final score too, 13
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to 12 as it wound up being as Saturday night.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: But Colt McCoy is rolling out, running, running, time's running out.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: He throws and it skips out of bounds. The clock
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: is supposed to stop once it makes contact out of bounds.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: The clock at AT & T Stadium went on and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: clicked to zero. So Nebraska players and coaches rushed the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: field and all that kind of stuff. Mack Brown stood
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: there calmly on the sideline and raised his finger and said, nope,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: there's one second left. And I thought there was at
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: the time, but we had to look at it on
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the replay. And you can tell on the replay that
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: there was. There was still time. In fact, I saw
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of people on social media in the last
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: 24 hours say, I went back and I looked at
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: that Texas-Nebraska game. It wasn't nearly as as controversial as
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: this thing was, you know, um, and, uh, the other
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: thing was in the athletic, they said, ultimately Mack Brown
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: was proven, right. There was extra time left. Um, and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: then Hunter Lawrence kicks the 46 yard field goal in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Texas wins. Uh, and I mentioned this on the deal
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: that when we were done with our post game after
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Texas had won the big 12 and they're headed to
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Pasadena to play Alabama for the national championship, uh, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: ran into the timer, the guy who was, and I'd
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: known him. He'd been a football official for years and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: then transitioned into the booth. And he was the one
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: on the time. And I didn't even ask him about
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the time. All I said was, wow, some finish on
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: some game. And he said, you want to know how
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: much time was left?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: He said, in that room, in the clock room, We
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: keep time down to hundreds of seconds, tenths and hundreds.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Of course, on a standard scoreboard clock like what we
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: saw Saturday night, all you see is 0-0-0, you know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: minutes and seconds. He said, we have it down to
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: hundreds of seconds. And the actual time that was left
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: on the clock when Colt McCoy's pass kicked out of
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: bounds was 0.39 seconds, almost four-tenths of a second. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: my response was, hey, in college basketball, that's enough time
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: for a catch and a shoot, you know, in the
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: NBA as well. He goes, that's right. It's time for
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: a play. It's enough time for a play. So it
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: was 0.39 is what.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: The clock operator told me after the game.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So there appeared to be less than that in this
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Michigan game, but again, two different clocks. And the question
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: that everybody's going to ask is one of sinking.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And is it like that everywhere?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Is the clock at DKR synced with the SEC timer's crew?
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Is it like that everywhere else? Immediately, somebody else said,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: aren't Big Ten officials the officials of for this game
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: this Saturday with Ohio State.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: Sure will be.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was a reciprocal deal. Last year was
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: SEC officials.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: I wonder if Joel Klatt will bring it up on
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: every call like he did last season.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: These are SEC officials. He said it probably 12 times.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll see if that's the case.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: But Joel Klatt won't be on the call. It's on ABC.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Right, that answers that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to hear more from Longhorn's head coach,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Steve Sarkeesian, from the press conference today when we continue
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: on 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app. Just
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: don't ask any of the officiating crew in Michigan what
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: time it is. Boy, the memes and the gifs that
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: have come down since then have just been amazing to
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: see some of those.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: They've been pretty entertaining. Somebody on the text line said,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I would have thought the officials from the 1988 Southwest
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Conference crew would have retired by now. Good to see
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: they're still getting work in Michigan.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there were some controversial calls there in that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: It talked about the Michigan Seat Palace, the Michigan receiver
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: called the ball a Utah transfer.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: A good choice, Kyle Whittingham.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Transferring in on that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Let's hear some more from Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkeesian,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: from the press conference. And this was, again, the press
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: conference that we brought to you live this morning, just
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: past 1130 this morning here on The Zone. and make
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: sure I pull up the right file here. I see
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: where you gave me some of the other stuff on
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: a different email, and I accidentally pulled that up and
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: should not have done that, and.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Now I have.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Well, are you sure that that email matches the Big
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Ten's email?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point. Anyway,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Sark was asked about a question of pomp and circumstance
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of non-football-related things, and it talked about, ESPN College Game
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Day is going to be here. There's all kinds of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: concerts and stuff happening, musical appearances and things like that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think Chris Stapleton is doing a show on Thursday
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: night over on campus. And then.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Who's... I think Robert O'Keen is coming too.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Robert O'Keen is performing on Saturday. And so there's a
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff surrounding that. And then the question also
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: brought up the, and you may have seen this by now,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: all the smoke that came out of the tunnel. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: as the Longhorns came out of there, there was a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: kind of a collision with a guy in the tunnel.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: And Arch Manning kind of got knocked down a little
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: bit along with some other players.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: If I didn't know better, if I didn't know the
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: Longhorns took care of business, I'd think, oh, that's not
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: a good omen.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did take care of their business.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: But anyway, it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Went from there, and they asked him if he was
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: concerned about those non-football-related things.
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: I think it's great for our game. I'll say this.
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: The fact that we have College Game Day coming back
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: to Austin, that's great. The fact that we'll have— Whether
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: it's the Spurs team, the Rockets team, how many other
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: people on our sideline. That's great because these are two
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: great teams that are going to battle and going to
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: compete against one another. It's awesome for the university. It's
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: awesome for the city of Austin. It's awesome for college football.
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, this will be the most watched regular season
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: game arguably of all time in the regular season. That's
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: great for everybody else. For us, what are we doing today?
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: How are we preparing today? And that's been the message
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: to our team. You know, today's the most important day.
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: We need to focus on the task at hand and
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: we need to be enamored with us because I think
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: this week can be full of distractions if you allow
• 49:18
  Speaker 8: them to be distractions. And so, you know, focus is
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: a very powerful thing. And so we use a very
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: simple adage, starve our distractions, feed our focus. And if
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: we do that, we'll put our best foot forward and
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: play the best game that we're capable of playing. But
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: all that stuff is really good for the game. It's
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: really good for everything else. For us, It's about our
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: prep work and about our preparation mentally, physically, and emotionally.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Now, a whole lot was brought up about the fact
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: that Texas has lost its last two games to Ohio State.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Last year in Columbus in the season opener, 14-7. The
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: year before in the semifinals of the college football playoff,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: and that was in the Cotton Bowl.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: They lost 28-14.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Texas, of course, beat them. in the Fiesta Bowl in
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: January of 2009. They had a home and home in
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: 05 and 06, just like the home and home that
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: took place 20 years later in 2025 and 2026. In 2005,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Texas won that thriller up in Columbus en route to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: going on to win the national championship. In 06, in Austin,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Ohio State won 24-7 and went on to win the
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: national title. Now, Sark, of course, was only involved in
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: two of those Texas defeats, the two most recent ones.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: And both of those games were close games, games that
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: went down in the waning moments of the contest. And
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: the question was asked by our good friend Cedric Golden
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of the Austin American Statesman. Ced's going to be on
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: with us on the program on Thursday of this week,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: by the way. And Cedric said, Matt Brown once told
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: me that he was kind of in a flunk after
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the loss to Alabama in the 2009 national championship game.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: And it took him a while to climb out of it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I remember Mac telling that story pretty publicly about this.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: And he asked Sark, how long did it take him
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: to get over those two tough losses in the playoff
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: semifinals to Washington there in 2023 in the.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Sugar bowl. And then of course, in the cotton bowl,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Ohio State in 2024.
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: I think it would probably have been easier to get
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: over if we had just gotten blown out. You know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: I think when you get so close, you know, when
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: you have a fourth down against Washington with a fade
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: to A.D. Mitchell, that's off his fingertips that if he
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: catches it, you know, for a little better pass, maybe
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: they call a holding. I don't know, like, that you're
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: playing for a national title. I think back to the
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: Ohio State game and, you know, I look at like,
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: I can count them on one hand, plays that maybe
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: were difference making plays in the game. You know, the
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: screen at the end of the first half, I still
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: see Travion Henderson running in front of me. You know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: I still think to his 21-17 and I think to
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: the sack fumble, you know, that they run back. And so,
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: when you're that close, it's probably harder to get over.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: But like I say it a lot, that's the life
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: of a competitor. And we're very fortunate to put ourselves
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: in that arena, to put ourselves on that stage. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't want it any other way than to be
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: on that stage. There's a lot of other people that
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: were sitting at home on their couch, watching us play
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: in that game. And the goal is to win that
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: one and then win one more. And we've got to
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: do everything in our power to try to put ourselves
• 52:49
  Speaker 8: back in those positions to be even better if we're
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: fortunate enough to be in that situation again.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: And those situations include the goal-to-go situations where the Longhorns
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: came up short not only last year in Columbus, but
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: also obviously the most famous or infamous, depending on your perspective,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: there in the Cotton Bowl there, down 21-14, and then
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: the scoop and score, the fumble return, the touchdown.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: To give the final of 28-14.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And so he was asked, does he feel like the
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: personnel he has added to his roster and to his
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: team now has his team in position to get past
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Ohio State in these types of situations?
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: When it comes to those scenarios, personnel helps. Schemes help.
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: The right play call at the right time helps. The
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: mentality helps. It all adds up because... They've got good scheme.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: They've got good players. They've got good play callers. And
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: so it's the marriage of those two things coming together. Ultimately,
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: we need to be better in those scenarios, you know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: and you just think about these last two games we
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: played them. That was probably the difference in the ball
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: game was our inability to score inside the 10. And so,
• 54:01
  Speaker 8: you know, that's why we do the extra work. That's
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: why you play certain emphasis on different seasons of where
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: do we need to improve? You know, hopefully this time around,
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: we get more opportunities like that and we can capitalize
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: on them.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: All right. Then he was asked about Cole Hudson.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Now, 80-some-odd players, I think it was like 85, over
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: 80 players played in the game on Saturday. That's what
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: happens when you are impressive and you win one-sided games
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: against the opponent. And more than 80 players got on
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the field for Texas and played in the game. One
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: who did not was Cole Hudson, who had returned under
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: that temporary restraining order and had trained with Texas. And
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Sark was asked why didn't Hudson get in the ballgame,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: and he gave an explanation for it That involves eligibility,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: but it's not eligibility in the way we were all
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: picturing and envisioning what happened with LSU and what was
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: going on there where those players were.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Left off the roster. Here's Sark's explanation about Cole Hudson.
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: From Cole's perspective, technically today he is ineligible, not because
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: of the ruling, because of something different when it comes
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: to the NCAA that he's working through. But as I
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: said before, we are respecting the SEC's decision. And once
• 55:21
  Speaker 8: he can get cleared, and if he gets cleared from
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: the NCAA, then we'll go back to the SEC. And
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: what does that look like? He falls under a little
• 55:29
  Speaker 8: different category than... what so much the hoopla was made around.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: I think it needs to be stated and it needs
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: to be clear. Cole never signed a professional contract. He
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: was never technically a professional player. He tried out, you know,
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: and that's what those tryout camps were, you know, when
• 55:47
  Speaker 8: he went to the Cowboys, I believe, and the Browns.
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: But he was technically not a signed player. And so
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: he falls under a little different caveat. We'll leave it
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: up to the NCAA and then we'll leave it up
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: to the SEC to determine if he's eligible to play
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: for us or not.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so there it is.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: We'll hear some more from Sark coming up when we
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: continue here on this Longhorns Monday on 13 Under the Zone. Yeah,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: still talking about all the time here. Here's a tweet,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: by the way. It was retweeted by Stuart Mandel, of course,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: from The Athletic. He said, this is the best technical
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: explanation I've seen of what might have happened Saturday night.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: There are not two clocks.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: There was a video syncing issue that other sports need
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: to know how to deal with. So this comes from
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Alex Farmentino, who works at ESPN. And I think he's
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: a producer. And so that would mean he would be
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: in the truck on a lot of these things.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And he goes, couple thoughts.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: One, Multiple leagues are allowing these reviews, audio and video,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: to be aired live after the ACC broke the seal
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: last year. Much of this dialogue goes away if no
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: discrepancy between TV interpretation and what replay officials actually decided.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: It shows the power of that access. Two, basketball has
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: already solved this problem. Add tenths of a second to
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a clock in the last minute and have a backboard
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: light as a frame of reference to true zero.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: That'd be funny.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could, you know, when the ball's in the
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: air or something, have the lights up on the goalpost
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: or something, you know, illuminated when it goes to zero. Three,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: why is that reference light so powerful? Any clock as
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: a separate source in two box like Big Ten released
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: is dependent on an accurate synchronization of those two sources.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: People are rightfully asking, how do I know that the
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: clock camera is in sync as the Western Michigan player
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: is touching the ball? Nothing obvious in this video to
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: tether those two sources together.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: We just have to take the word for it.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I produced plenty of shows where syncing one camera or
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: another was trouble shot throughout the game.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it happened here, but it is possible.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Wide shot with a light to show true zero in
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: a frame of play, much simpler. Four, as for what
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: was shown on TV, any video source, the clock in
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: this case, layered on top of another video digital video effect, DVE,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: has the potential to be delayed by fractions of a second.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It takes time, albeit very small, for video sources to
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: move around in a production router where they're mixed together
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: by the video switcher. There are plenty of instances where
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: a basketball final second shot shows time on the DVE clock,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: what TV shows in the lower corner, while the light
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: and the physical clock in the frame of the camera
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: shot have already hit zero. It may only be a
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: difference of a frame of video, usually one one-thirtieth of
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: a second, but plenty of sports moments prove to be
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: that close. The data feed that powers the virtual bug
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: with the clock and the score can have a similar lag,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: thus the power of the light. If football puts a
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: light on the goal post or on some other place
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: on the field, nearly all the ambiguity of this instance
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: goes away. It would be interesting to see if this
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: lightning strike moment brings any change or just get swept
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: away in the flow of the season as such tech
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: would take investment for far fewer close moments than in hoops.
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: I had that thought. How many times is this really
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: going to come into play?
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: For that big of an investment that has to come,
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: what officiating is handled at the conference level, the way
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: it is in college football, that investment's got to come
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: from the conferences, and that can be a whole process.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the other slippery slope. I haven't brought this
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: up yet.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: For those who are saying, well, it's Big Ten officials.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: You know, they hosed Western Michigan, all that stuff. It's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: important to understand that many of the officials, you know,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: and they're in crews.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: So it's the same crew.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the crews that work Big Ten
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: games work MAAC games too, Mid-America. It is a co-op agreement.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: The SEC has one similar with the Sun Belt. And
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I believe the Big 12 has one with the Mountain West.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So a lot of times, it's cross-pollination. So these crews
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: work games in both leagues. So saying that this is
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: specifically a Big 10 crew would be faulty to say that.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: Can we just centralize it already, though? I mean, I've
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: heard this brought up by a lot of people in
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: the college football world. But here's the problem you have
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: with centralizing. First of all, if you have to centralize,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: it's important to centralize full crews. Second, most of these
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: guys who work in college games, that's not their only income.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: And so they've got day jobs, whereas the NFL, full-time
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: officials doing their thing. Thirdly, and this is important to mention, thirdly,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: different conferences pay different rates. So if you were to
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: centralize it, You'd have to get to a centralized rate.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: It might be more than, say, a G6 conference wants
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to pay. I've seen this with umpiring crews. When the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Longhorns have played a road game against what would be
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: a G6-type school, they only got three umpires, not four.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: They have first, third, and home.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: That's it. They don't have a second-base umpire.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: And it really sticks out like a sore thumb when
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: you have a check-swing situation And the umpire from first
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: with a base runner on has had to move behind
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: the mound. And he's trying to evaluate a left-hander swing.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Did he go all the way around and you're at
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: second base? You can't have an accurate view of that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Yet he's the appeal guy. You can't go to the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: third base with a guy from, you know, that side.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: So anyway, there you go.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Um, we'll, uh, I'll tell you what, let's hear one
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: more from, uh, uh, Longhorn's head coach, Steve Sarkisian. He
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: was asked, uh, if he had taken the time to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: evaluate himself as a play caller from those past Ohio
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: State meetings.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: I felt like last year, you know, unbeknownst to probably
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: more of the national media, we ran the ball really well.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: I think people think we just went out there and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: laid an egg and had minus 10 yards rushing or something.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: We ran the ball pretty well. I felt like the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: passing game was not where it needed to be, you know,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 8: the first two and a half, three quarters or so
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: in that game. Then when you get behind, you got
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: to start throwing the ball and now you got to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: try to find your way into the end zone. And
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 8: I felt like we had some opportunities and we just
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: didn't get that done. Two years ago, I think the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: run game was where we didn't have as much success
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 8: as we would have liked. So what does that tell me?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: I got to find a way to find balance in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: this game. You know, when you're playing really good teams,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: which Ohio State is a very good football team, you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: have to try to find a way to have balance
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: in the game. Because The coaches are too good. The
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: players are too good. The players are too smart. And
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: when you become one-dimensional, you're that much easier to stop.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: And so finding balance in a game like this is important.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: You know, we hit a few of those passes. I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: probably feel a little better about me as a play
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: caller in those games. You don't hit them, I don't
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: feel quite as good. You know, that's kind of the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: life of a play caller. That's the way it goes,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: It is indeed. Okay.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: We will be back to wrap up our number two
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: here on 13 Under the Zone. Third and final hour
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: of the program here on Sports Radio AM 1300 Design.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: What's that? I didn't.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: Know if we were going to come back with the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: highlight montage there.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to come back with the highlight montage.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why we didn't.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I've got to get back into the habit of things, too.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: I actually looked back at the tape, and there was time.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: You actually didn't come in before the montage. There was
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: an extra second.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much. I appreciate that.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, let's save it for a little later.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: We'll bring it back for folks who missed out on
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: the highlight montage. We'll do it in a little bit.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Here's where I want to do that. I had to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: make a correction, first of all. There is another FBS
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: team that is 2-0, and that would be USC.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. They played Friday night, and they
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: won over Fresno 39-0. Did they play week one, though,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: for named directional school?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: They played San Jose State.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Three-name direction. So they played them.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: But the other team that is 2-0 in that early
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: stage are the Memphis Tigers. And they're kind of intriguing
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: in that they might have a leg up, an even
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: better opportunity than perhaps USC. And here's where I'm going
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: with this. USC, of course, has to compete in the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Big Ten. And they're going to have to deal... With,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: you know, some of the best in all of college football,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: including the team that's coming to Austin this week. They
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: have to deal with Ohio State. Penn State looked pretty
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: good there on Saturday in their win in the season opener.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: Penn State has a real shot because they don't play
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: a lot of the top Big Ten teams this year.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: I was talking about this out at Back Porch on Friday.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: Their schedule is very, very fortunate in avoiding both Oregon
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: and and Indiana, and Ohio State.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Matt Campbell's debut came off very, very well
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: off of that. The reason why I bring this up
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: with regard to Memphis is because Memphis stands a decent
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: shot at getting in to the playoff as a G6
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: representative due to the fact that they've already won a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: couple of ballgames. On the road, they won at UNLV,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: and then they defeated Arkansas State at home.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Uh, on a Saturday. So they're off to a two
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: and O start are the tigers.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: And they may stand up there with say the service
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: academies and obviously Boise state as, as trying to get
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: in there. Well, guess what? Memphis plays at Boise this week.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: So we're going to have Dave will ocean, the play
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: by play voice, the Memphis tigers join us here in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: just a few moments.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, baseball that I wanted to get to, uh, uh,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: A couple of big series are getting underway. The Brewers
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: came back to beat the Cubs. Meanwhile, the Arizona Diamondbacks
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: were chasing a wild card, were in a scoreless game
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: with the Kansas City Royals going to the 10th. Arizona
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: scores five runs in the top.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Of the 10th. So you're thinking ballgame, right? Not quite.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Kansas City has come back with four in the bottom
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: of the 10th. Salvador Perez just hit a bases clearing
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: double and he represents a tying run with only one
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: out in the bottom of.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: The 10th in Kansas City. Pinch run. Yeah.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: The craziness of baseball right now. Toward that end, here's
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: something else I was going to get to. There were
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of history making moments over the weekend in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: One of those.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Took place yesterday in San Diego. I don't know if
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: you heard about this. The Yankees were playing the Padres.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Garrett Cole was on the mound. So Cole's on the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: mound and the Padres, who have kind of stepped up
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: their game of late, come up and they hit three
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: straight home runs to start the game.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Back to back to back.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: That would be unusual enough had it only happened one
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: time in his career. But no, Garrett Cole did have
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: it happen to him four years ago when he allowed
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: the first three hitters on June 9, 2022 at Minnesota.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: So Garrett Cole is the only pitcher in Major League
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: history to allow back-to-back-to-back home runs to the first three
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: batters of a game more than once in his career.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: How weird is that number? He's the only guy ever
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Twice it's happened where the first three guys have homered
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: off of him.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: That was one weird thing.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: The other one was Jake's team was playing my team
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: over the weekend in Los Angeles, Dodgers against the Nationals.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: And the Dodgers scored first in all three games and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: had to come from behind yet to win all three games.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: They got a three-run homer by Tommy Edmond in the eighth.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: On Saturday night, they got a three-run homer from Mookie
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Betts in the bottom of the eighth last night.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, the Nats are taking promo kids from the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: back of our office here at iHeart and putting them
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: on the mound at this point.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: It must be that because I don't know if you've
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: heard this number. The Washington Nationals have set the major
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: league record for most blown saves in a season. Now
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: with 37 blown saves in a season.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, but sure. Trade Kyle Finnegan for prospects. Yeah, it's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: going to go great.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Is that when you gave up on him?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Well, that was last year, so it was a move
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: that turned out to really hurt them because they are
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: wasting one of the best offenses in the league with
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: an now historically incompetent bullpen. The Nationals, Craig, are the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 7: 2025 Dallas Cowboys of Major League Baseball right now.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: Great offense, equally terrible defense and pitching.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they hope to be better defensively, and they look
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: decent in the preseason for what that's worth in the preseason.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: They did get bad news, or at least it was
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: released bad news today. We'll hear more from Brian Schottenheimer tomorrow.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: But Tyler Smith is out, I think, four to six
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: weeks with a fractured thumb. He's going to have to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: undergo surgery tomorrow. So he's going to be out in
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: advance of the Cowboys season opener on Sunday night against
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: the New York Giants, which you can hear on our
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: sister station, 98.1 FM KVET.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: So there's that. I had my fantasy football draft last night. Actually,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I don't usually make a habit of drafting Dallas Cowboys,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: but I did take Dak Prescott.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: Let's see that team. Let's see.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: No, I got a D plus grade.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Now, I get usually a D or a C minus
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: grade every year from the CBS Sportsline people.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: That's based on their ranking, not yours.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: And not only that, their system, their algorithms are different
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: than ours. So it does that. I think it's okay.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: We'll see. I rolled the dice on a couple of players,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: most notably Dallas. as a backup quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. You
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: guys play two quarterbacks though, right?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: And Mahomes, two years ago when I had the number
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: one pick in the league, I drafted him first overall
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: two years ago before the injuries. I got Patrick Mahomes
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: at the bottom of the sixth round. Pretty good for
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: a two quarterback league.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: That's what I figured. That's what I figured.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: Who'd you take a chance on otherwise?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: We'll see how... We know what a workhorse Derrick Henry is.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: So we'll see... How that plays out.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: Good pick, though. I like that schedule for the Ravens.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I thought about that as well. I did have requisite
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Rams on the team. Kyron Williams, I got as a
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: running back for the team. Even Blake Corham, because Williams
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: tends to get banged up, so Corham would be the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: guy to step in for.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: But I got him, like, 15th round pretty late. Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: good move.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: This was the year I finally got Puka Nakua.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see? And I wanted him, and I didn't get
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: him on that. So, anyway....
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: The pro football notes, baseball notes come to mind and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: those things as well. But up next, we go back
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: to college football. We'll talk about the Memphis Tigers and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: we'll visit with Abel Ocean, their play-by-play voice, when we
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: continue on Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: the IR Radio app. We welcome you back here.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: On a Monday.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Labor Day holiday, but we're glad to be with you here,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Craig Way, alongside the producer, Jay Kerman. Nothing like a
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: little Paul Simon with going to Graceland. Not going exactly
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: to Graceland, but we are going to Memphis there to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: visit with a longtime friend of mine and the voice
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: of the Memphis Tigers, Dave Woloshin, who joins us now.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Wolow, great to see you. How are you, my friend?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: Uh-oh. Your intro says Hall of Famer. Is that correct?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I am a Hall of Famer.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: How in the world is a Hall of Famer working
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: on Labor Day? They should be much more respectful than that.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: I guess I could say you don't get to be
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame unless you do work on holidays, right?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Here's the simple explanation, Wolo. Sark has his press conference
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: on Monday. So if they're all working, they got the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: press conference on Monday. And I'm over on campus until
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: after 1 o'clock in the afternoon, and my show starts
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: at 2. I might as well just come over here
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: and do the show, you know, and give everybody.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: And so we hear from Sark, you know, on Mondays.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: But I'm glad you joined us. And Dave and I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: have known each other a long time. Wolo and I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: go back, I guess, almost, it'd be an even 40 years,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't it?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, was it 80?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: 85.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: 85 was when you came to Dallas.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: I met you at TRLD in Dallas. You were a youngster.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: So were you.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: I was young, too.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: We both worked at KRLD in Dallas there in 85
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: and 86.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: You think about this, Roger.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: You know, we'd like to talk about coaching trees that
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Roy Williams, Dean Smith of the coaching tree, and John
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Wood and all these great coaches at coaching trees. The
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: KRLD broadcaster coaching tree, even before Brad Champ, Frank Lieber,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the immortal Frank Lieber.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: That's the guy that I replaced because of his– unfortunate passing.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And so you had Frank Lieber and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Vern Lundquist working there and doing Cowboys games. And then
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Brad Sham, Chuck Cooperstein, Dave Woloshin, and myself, and George
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Dunham and Craig Miller of the Ticket in Dallas were
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: with us as well later on.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: Brian Briscoe was also kind of like the fill-in guy, uh,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: great producer guy.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: And, and, and, and he went to the motor sports way, right?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: The Texas motor sports way.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: He worked, he, he, he worked at, uh, uh, Texas
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: motor speedway. He did that for years now, uh, uh,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: pretty much retired doing a podcast in Denton. That's, that's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: called built for this. And it's, and it's really entertaining.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: It's really, in fact, I'm going to put him in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: touch with you, if you don't mind, because I know
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: he'd love to have you on his podcast.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: No, I would love to chat with him.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: I would tell you, you're not going to believe this,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 9: but we were doing, I can't remember if the game
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: was in Memphis or somewhere in Texas, probably in Texas,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: because Fran Fraschilla was doing the game on TV. His
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 9: wife comes up to me and she goes, you know,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: I just love listening to you.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: You were part of the dream team.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 9: She considered that group of 85 a dream team. And
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: if you think about it, Cooperstein, you, me, we're still
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 9: all working. And so is Sham.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How about Brad? They're going along. Yeah, it's amazing.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: You're mentioning the former Meg O'Connell, Meg Fraschilla, Fran's wife.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: And at the time, Meg was working in the Southwest
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Conference Media Relations Office.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: That's how she got to know us. That's how she
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: got to know us.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Meg worked in the Southwest Conference Office and then met
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Fran later when Fran was coaching and.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Married Fran. And they had two sons and yeah, great
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: people as well.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: So the reason I wanted Wolo on the show today
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: was not to talk about our indoor soccer backgrounds, because
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: we both have that. Wolo was the voice of the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Memphis Rogues, and I was the voice of the Dallas
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Sidekicks for a time.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: And don't forget the Memphis Americans. That was the first
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: one that.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: That was an MISL team. They took on Dallas. Who
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: was the guy?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: There was a great player at Dallas. It was while
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: we were in Dallas.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Short guy.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the wonderful... Antonio Carlos Pecorari, who we
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: all knew as Tattoo.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: Tattoo, that's it, yes.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Tattoo is coaching now. He's coaching, yes.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 5: So you called me to talk about my Cubs. I'm
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: very sad today. They blew.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 9: A 2-1 lead in the bottom of the eighth and
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: lost 4-3.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw Zephyr John let it get away.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Zephyr John let it get away from
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: him when me as the Dodger fan is wanting to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: see L.A. make up ground on Milwaukee there. So I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: was rooting for the Cubs today as well. But the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: reason I asked Wolo on the program today is not
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: any of the stuff we've just talked about, although it's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: great to catch up. How many years now for you
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: is the voice of Memphis Tigers?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 9: Well, I came back from Dallas to start doing basketball
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 9: and football for them on television. And then, I don't know,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: I think it was 98 I transitioned over after doing
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: a bunch of ESPN stuff.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: I transitioned over to radio. And so that's, you know,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: really 86. Go back there.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 9: So we're talking 40 years.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. The reason why I also bring this up.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I've watched and listened, by the way, to Wolo call
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the first two games of this football season for the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Memphis Tigers. And I got a chance to hear and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: watch with the zero week win over UNLV. And then
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: the other night driving home after the Texas-Texas State game,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to you, I picked you up on SiriusXM,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: when you're playing Arkansas State. And the Tigers won a
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: couple of ball games now. So Memphis, one of the
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: few teams that you could even have in a conversation
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: to talk about the possibility of being in the college
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: football playoff, that's 2-0.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: USC is there. Florida State can get there tonight if
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: they can.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: Win.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: But USC, I think, I would submit, has a much
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: more difficult path to try to get to the playoff
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: existing in the Big Ten and having to deal with
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: with the likes of Ohio State and Penn State and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Indiana and those. Of course, Memphis, a G6 school, is
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: in the American. Not to say it's an easy path,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: because you have to go to what many consider to
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: be the favorite to be the one automatic out of
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: the G6, Boise State.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 9: Well, the gamblers in Vegas agree with you. They made
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 9: it an eight and a half point game after it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: opened up.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Did they? Okay.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: But we'll get to that in a moment, but I
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on this Memphis team, which,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I was, I was listening to you describe
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: the exploits on the field and a tremendous game from
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Jalen Carter who ran for 183 yards. And before we
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: even get to that, you're on a new head coach.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: And Charles Huff, not only is the new head coach
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: at Memphis, Charles Huff is on his third head coaching
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: job in his many years. So he's been the turnaround
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: guy at Marshall, at Southern Miss, and now at Memphis.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: So how has it gone so far with Coach Huff and.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Him getting acclimating and getting the program off to a
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: good start?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, there were many question marks.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 9: I really did not know what to expect going into Vegas.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: You got 81 new players. 81.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 9: You've got 61 transfers and 20 freshmen. You did have
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: a bunch of those transfers that came from that Southern
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: Miss school. And no one was able to go from
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Marshall to Southern Miss to Memphis because they ran out
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 9: of eligibility.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: But those players love Charles Huff. They really do. Charles
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: is a Nick Saban disciple. He also learned from James Franklin.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: So he says.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 9: He learned all about recruiting and how to work boosters
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 9: from Franklin. He learned about the process from Saban. Part
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 9: of that is you don't learn very much at all.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 9: So I had no idea. I had no depth chart
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: until the night before the game.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: We had a thought about how it was going, but
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: that's it.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: And by the way, you know when Arkansas State give
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 9: us their dub chart for the game on Saturday?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: Literally five minutes before the game. So, you know, you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: can find out ways.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 9: There's ourlands.com and you talk to the other broadcasters and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 9: they'll give you some, but they can't give you everything.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: And a kid that you know, that Owens kid, Trey Owens,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 9: was a backup attack.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: He's a junior. I guess he couldn't beat out Arch.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: He was the number 16 quarterback prospect of the class.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: Of 24 when he went to Texas. We didn't know
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: if it was going to be him. Butch Jones said
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: it could be four guys. Four guys. Come on now.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: But that's the way it is. So we didn't know
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: anything about Huff.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: Huff is a great orator without telling you a whole lot. Um,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: until finally we went to this production meeting that was
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 9: with Tim Brando. So, cause the way it works is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 9: you don't get coordinators and in your production meeting, it's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: always going to be TV and radio. So you've got
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 9: to share your time kind of, and it's hard to
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 9: share with Tim Brando.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: Love the guy, but it takes them about 20 minutes
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: to ask one question. Um, But we did find out
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: some stuff then.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: And you can't help but like Charles.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: He is a good football coach. When he tells you.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 9: About the strategy and why he's doing this and why
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 9: he's using this guy and what he expects and how
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 9: that's overrated.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: You understand that he really knows X's and O's.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 9: And he knows motivation or he couldn't get these these
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: kids to keep following him.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm really impressed with that. I had no idea.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 9: Memphis's defense won the game. In Las Vegas, it was
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 9: really their offense and their offensive line.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: So the two lines.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 9: O-line, D-line have really been the factors in the game
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 9: against Arkansas State. They just took over and they trained
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 9: to 30 yards rushing and two 100-yard runners.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: You mentioned Jalen Carter and Manny Covey.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 9: So Manny Covey is a kid that came from the
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 9: University of Cincinnati, had a great game in the AutoZone
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 9: Liberty Bowl the year before, liked the stadium.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: And I guess, I don't know how he knew Huff,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: but he did.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: Or maybe he knew Kevin Decker, who was the OC
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 9: that came from Old Dominion, he's really a bright guy.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 9: He had actually been a player for Tim Cramsey, who's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 9: the OC at Arkansas that was Memphis' OC for the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: last four or five years. So it's a similar offense,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 9: but it's even more spread out. It's really fun to watch.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 9: But it's the line play on both sides that has
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 9: impressed me so far. But they haven't seen a team
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 9: as good as the guys that almost upset Oregon today.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 9: Boise is really good. They got two good running backs.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 9: They got a really good quarterback. Memphis beat Boise a
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 9: few years ago. I think it was 23. And believe
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 9: it or not, the kid was there then. He was
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: a freshman. And Memphis got a pretty good lead on them.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 9: And they just changed quarterbacks to see what would happen
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 9: in the second half. And Madsen almost brought them all
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 9: the way back. So, you know, this game is a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 9: tough game that Bluefield is hard to play on for visitors.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 9: They're really good there. It's their 40th anniversary. Their record
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 9: over 40 years is pretty darn impressive. And it's a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 9: little like Vegas. I mean, Vegas was about a six
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: and a half, seven and a half point favorite. And
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 9: that's what Boise is right now. So who knows?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Tell me a little bit about Marcus Stokes, what you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: saw out of him at quarterback.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: Boy, Marcus Stokes was so nervous.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 9: In that first game. He threw his first two passes
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: into the dirt.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: That sounds like Arch Manning last year in Columbus.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 9: And then toward the end of the first half, he
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: runs over the line and throws the football. He went
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 9: over the line of scrimmage and threw the football. So
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: he had really lost his awareness a little bit. And
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 9: of course, the The pass was completed. I'm going, of
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 9: course the pass was completed. The guy that was covering
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 9: the receiver came to tackle you. But then in the
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 9: second half, he really, he steadied himself.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: And he played pretty well. I thought he played fair.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 9: I don't think we've seen the best of him yet,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 9: but he played a couple of touchdown passes, but he
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 9: threw two picks. So we'll just have to wait and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 9: see how he plays out.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the line play in the interior lines on
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: both sides.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Do you feel good about the defense? I mean, they've
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: given up.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Some points in the game, but on the road at
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: UNLV was going to be tough, and they held the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: line late in the ballgame and then did so as well,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: stopping Arkansas State down the stretch.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Had him there. I'll tell you what. Let's do this.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break, and we'll get him back, and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: we'll get a few more minutes out of him before
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: we wrap up here. here on a Monday afternoon on
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio AM 13 Under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: But I know who placed the call. Cause Monk took
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: the message and he wrote it on the wall.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: All right, so we've reestablished the long-distance connection here with
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: the voice of the Memphis Tigers. Well, I was right
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: in the middle of asking you about how you felt
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: about the.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: Can I just say something really quick?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: I love that song.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: I do like the Chuck Berry version better, just so
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: you know. If I ever want to.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: Get it, you do that.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: Next time, you'll get the original from Chuck Berry instead
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: of the Johnny Rivers rendition.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: I have no disrespect for Johnny Rivers.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: Believe me.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe we should restrict Johnny Rivers to secret agent man
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: and some things like that.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Slow dance and sway into the music, stuff like that
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: I love that song. Absolutely.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: I was just starting to ask him when we had
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: the dropout. I was starting to ask you how you
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: felt about the defense. Gave up some points in each
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: of the first two ballgames for the Tigers, yet got
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: stops certainly down the stretch in the second half of
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: the game when you had to have it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's it. They have been a second-half team.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: Memphis has outscored the opposition in the second half, 41-14.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of that, Craig, and this
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: is what Huff has preached all year long, he does
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: these training drills the players have talked about that are
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: just so tough. And they, they just say, as, as
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: they're doing it, they're, they've all accepted his culture, right?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: I told you he's a players coach and they really
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: had come, you know, some have, have, have, uh, transferred
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: schools with him. Like he had 30 guys that went
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: from Marshall to Southern Miss, um, and the 18 from
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: heat from Southern Miss to Memphis. Uh, They bought into this. So,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: you know, he says to them, look, I'll, I'll make
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: you a better player.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: You'll win.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: If you listen to what I say. And part of
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: that is you've got to be in the best shape
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: of your life. We're going to put weight on you
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: or you're going to lose weight. You're going to go
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: on this diet. You're going to do this training. You've
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: got these, these numbers and goals. When, when it comes
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: to weight training, we've got these numbers and goals when it,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: when it comes to cardio and this, They believe when
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter comes, the other team's going to wilt,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: and so far that's been the case. Memphis has just
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: dominated the fourth quarter in both games. And it's come
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: from lines. You asked me specifically about the defensive line.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: He's playing 10 different guys. He's got two guys that
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: are outstanding. One's a young guy who played for McSouthern
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: this last year named Elijah Kinsler. He's a kid out
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: of New Jersey, and he's the guy they had to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: put weight on. He was like 230. They list him
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: now at 256. They said at one point he got 260.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: And then there's this guy who started in Texas.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: So you may know him.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: He went to Arizona State and then to Southern, and
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: his name is Jamon Tapp. He's a kid out of Louisiana.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: He's just a high-energy guy, and he's made him a
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: good player. There's an interesting thing that Huff said. He goes,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: and so this guy was on his third school. Now
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: he's on his fourth, but his third school, he went.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: To Southern Miss.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: And Huff says, I'm really good with guys who are
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: on their last chance. I'm the guy you want to
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: play for if you're going to last chance you need.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: Because I can relate to you and I will make
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: you better, but you've got to live by.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: What I say.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: And he goes, most of the time, it doesn't always work.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: Most of the time, because they know it's their last chance,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: they're going to listen to him and they buy in.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, since that was two schools
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: ago when he was here, I see that he's changed
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: his name slightly.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: When he was here was Jamond. So apparently going by
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Jamond now may have helped his game. He was Jamond
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: when he was here, and he was a good player
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: when he was here.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: He just got caught up in a numbers game.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: We've got an.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: All-American playing on that same spot on the rush end
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: as a freshman two years ago came in, Colin Simmons.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Who's a preseason All-American now, and that's right. I think
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: he just got caught up in the numbers game.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: I kind of build this in talking about it today
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: as saying that Memphis might have as good a shot
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: as any G6 team to get into the playoff if,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: and this is obviously the big if, if you win
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: the game in Boise this week. Because I look at
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: the rest of your schedule. You've got UT Martin, and
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: then you've got an open day. My goodness, Charlotte lost
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: to the Citadel. They lost to an FCS team over
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: the weekend.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Moving the football at Duke, and they lost. You have
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: ECU at home. You do have Army at home.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: You do have to go to South Florida, but they're
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: rebuilding with Golish having gone to Auburn. Maybe that trip
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: to Annapolis helps determine conference championship seeding or something like
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: that before you finish on Black Friday against Temple. Do
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: you see it in similar ways, Wolo, if the Tigers
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: are able to find a way to get that win
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: on the Smurf turf that they got a shot to
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: win run the table and get into the American Championship
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: game with a chance perhaps to play for.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: A playoff spot?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: Two thoughts.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think since the college football playoff expansion and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: the group of six has sort of been now it's
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: the best ranked group of six. Doesn't have to be
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: the champion like it used to be thanks to the
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: ACC and Duke last year. I think this is the
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: best draft of, at this time, the best G6 matchup
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: in the history of the separation between the P4 and
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: the G6. Because UNLV was the second best G6 team
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: coming in. Memphis took care of them on the road.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: A lot of people thought Memphis was the third and
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: Boise is number one. And Boise didn't hurt their stock
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: by going to Oregon and being tied at the half
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: and being tied at 27 and losing by a touchdown.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: I think if you're Bob Arum and you're promoting this game,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: this is maybe the greatest G6 matchup since the college
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: football playoff expansion and the seat at the table. Because
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: it's clearly defined now. These are the two best teams
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: at the moment. Now, you mentioned the American schedule. Every
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: tough game, although Army looks like they're a little bit
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: better than maybe I thought. They put 59. I know
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: it's on Bryant, but you put 59 on a team
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: is pretty good. Um, every other game that, uh, that
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: the prognosticators preseason thought was tough is on the road.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: You got to go to USF.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: Brian Hartline was the big hot hire because he was
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: the OC at Ohio state. Uh, you've got to go.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: to South, uh, to, uh, Tulane, you got to go
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: to Navy. And most people pick Navy kind of to
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: win this league. So, uh, even though to me, they
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: lost their quarterback, who was one of the best they've
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: ever had in Blake Corvette, they lost their best tackler, uh,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: tackling machine and defensive lineman. They lost their best running
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: back and they best lost their best receiver from last year.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Now there's great continuity there. So, uh, I don't know.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: You've got to play in Annapolis. That's a tough place
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: to play. So I would say to you that Memphis'
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: schedule in the conference is one of the toughest, if
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: not the toughest. But I don't think they have to
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: win every game. If they get the leg up here
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: and they only lose.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: One, say, in conference, I think the winner.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: clearly, of this Saturday game in Boise, has the leg
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: up on everybody in the G6 to make the playoffs.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Hey, before I let you go,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: for folks who don't know... Lola will be in town
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: December 16th. Memphis plays Texas in basketball.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: So tell me what kind of team Penny Hardaway is
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: going to bring in to Moody. I see you've got
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: two big-time exhibition games in Starkville and Mississippi State against
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Arkansas in Fayetteville. Texas has to play St. John's at
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden. That's an exhibition game. I think that's
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: their one public exhibition.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: But what kind of team is Penny Hardaway going to
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: bring into Austin in December?
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: That's another one of those. Every single player, well, there's
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: two guys on the team. One that was at the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: end of the bench is a high-flying athletic guy. And
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: the other is a pretty good guy in Fedford. All
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: the other guys are new. You've got a kid named
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: Reed who went to Northwestern, but he played at USF.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: I've seen him before. He's really a good point guard.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: You've got some really good three-point shooters. And here's the caveat.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: Here's what I think will make them a good team.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: They've got a kid who will be 25 in December
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: named Popovich. He played in the Polish league prior.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: I think he's Ukrainian.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: He is truly a pro, and we're waiting on eligibility
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 4: with him. They think they're going to get that. He
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: may have to sit on a few games early in
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: the year, but he's going to be the key that
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: really makes this team, I think, a solid ball club.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: I think they'll be one of the best in the American.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: How they will line up with you, that's another story.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: We'll see.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: You've got to play in Austin, but I'm hoping that
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: that means that you guys come to Memphis the year
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: or two after.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: I hope so.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: I loved the one game I got to call there.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: Two nights before Texas played USC for the national championship
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: in football, remember, was there when Texas played Memphis when
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: they had P.J. Tucker when they played there. That was
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: a heck of a ball game that night. I do
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: remember that very well. So you're telling me this guy
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Popovich will be in a Memphis uniform if Lane Kiffin
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't get him through the portal first.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: Can you believe what we're doing here?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: The reason why I bring this up, for folks who
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: don't know, Dave also, like I do, hosts a daily
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: show in Memphis. And I can only imagine, because you're
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: only an hour away from Oxford, I can only imagine
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: what your show has been like over the past couple
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: of weeks, given everything that's gone down in the name
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: of the SEC and Lane Kiffin and LSU.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: Well, Lane Kiffin is a magnet. You can't help but
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: watch him. he's like a car wreck. You know, you,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: you want to turn away, but you can't. This is
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: a guy. He doesn't need more help. Look what he
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: did to Clemson.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: My God.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: And he's literally willing to.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Risk 50% of his budget, 50% of his games, because
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: they can suspend them for 50%. And literally if, you know,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: because Clemson, Greg Senkin, the SEC commissioner, has sued Lane Kiffin,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: sued LSU, sued the administration. It's unbelievable. But he's saying,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: and everybody in the league agreed, LSU has said, we're
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: not allowing players who have signed pro contracts.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Back into the league.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: You made your decision to go pro.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: Now, the European thing is a little different, Greg, because
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 4: they don't have a college system. So they put them
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: into the pros when they're 12 years old.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: To me, that's a little different story than a guy
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: like Daquan White or Zabian Harris, who said at the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: end of their senior year, last year in Oxford, you
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: know what? We got a chance to make an NFL team.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: We're going to go.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: And they signed a contract. to play for those NFL teams, respectively.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: And then because they can make more money at LSU
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: with Lane Kiffin and still go back to the NFL,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: and they want guaranteed slots, they go, well, why wouldn't.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: We go back?
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: And you know Kiffin, he's going to.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: Do whatever it takes to win.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: But the commissioner is saying, don't do it. Because if
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: you do, here are the penalties. And I don't the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: judge that made an injunction from a temporary to a
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: full injunction, I thought he was going to bail out
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin by not allowing it. But once he did, now...
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: The administration probably sat down Lane Kiffin and said, hey.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: Let's not take a chance.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: Because these guys, look what happened with Texas.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Tech and Sorsby.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, the league basically said, we.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: Won't play you.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: That could have happened with the SEC and Lane Kiffin.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, since you're right about the Europeans coming in,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: which gives you time to work on the pronunciations of
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: Matas Fokatidis and Matas Lorenzikas before you get here in December.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I did tennis. I mean golf.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: And I've done, I'm sorry, soccer with all those Czechoslovakian names.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: This is nothing.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lithuanians are easy, right? Yeah.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, give my love to Gail. Appreciate you taking the time.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: And I'll look forward to seeing you in December. But
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: best of luck up in Boise this week. And I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: hope it goes really well for you. And I appreciate
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: you joining me today.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: My pleasure. Happy holiday to you and your loved ones.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see you in December.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. Thanks, Willow.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: You got it.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: That's Dave Woloshin, play-by-play voice of the Memphis Tigers. We'll
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: be back to wrap up today's edition of the program
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: on 13 Under the Zone.
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