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Flying Bats · Sports Exchange

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Good evening. Everybody will welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange. My
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name is Scott Morgan Roth the Motor City, man Mouth, Caffeine and all.
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Definitely had a fair amount of that considering what I've been going through all
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day today. But no, it's all good for Meanwhile, we have a
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very different episode tonight, but it falls into my wheelhouse of what I really
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like to do. Time I come over with a title called flying Bats,
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So call me an author, call me whatever you want. At the end
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especially when I'm about to hit my crew with now. But before I go
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ahead and get onto that first subject, let's introduce the crew. Jake,
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the pundits, pundit, what's going on? I'll call it and just like
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bang the drums slowly, I'll call you Arthur instead of author. Okay,
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well, I've heard I've heard Scooter, I've heard a lot of Duke,
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I've heard Scoop, I've heard it all from what's our third Uh. But
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you didn't have to call me Ray. Everybody s hearted that one, right,
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Okay, that's bad, all right, all right, guys, going
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to be back on with you all. Looking forward to the show, all
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right, And JB ellis what's going on? Guys? Does everybody do it
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tonight? Doing? All right? He's cooking up some good stuff there,
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right, JB. We got that. We're gonna be working towards Announcements will
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be made in the future, all right, and last one not least big
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mac evening, guys, how's it going all right? Well, you know
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I wasn't getting around about this. When I saw this, I knew I
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had to lead off with it. So last night in college basketball, Nevanda's
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Wolfpack season opener against Sacramento State was temporarily delayed in the second half due to
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bats invaded invading the arena. The incident occurred with five minutes and forty seconds
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mating in the second half, in the middle of a twelve to two run
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by the Hornets. That mean, the Sacramento State Hornets before the action was
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stopped for several minutes. Now after the delay end in Nevana close the game
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on a seventeen to six run to beat Sacramento State seventy seven sixty three in
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year five of the Steve Alford Era. This isn't the first time that bats
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have entered Lawlor Events Center areno. In twenty seventeen, several bats took over
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the arena, and the Nevanda Department of wild Life confirmed at the time there
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could be up to thirty bats living inside the arena. My goodness, you
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know what, I have no choice but to start off with DG mic on
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this one. Well, go figure and that funny enough is I kind of
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had a feeling what you're talking about because I have friends that are actually trainers
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on the team and said they'd never seen anything like it. It's you know
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what's funny is knowing the history of sax State and how they find ways to
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lose games over the last five or so years. This doesn't kind of surprise
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me, but it does tell you that college basketball, I think, more
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than anyone, is a momentum shift. If you can do something to break
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the momentum of a game and get it rolling the other way. Hey,
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bats in the Belfrey, you know the light's going out on my joke.
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Yeah, oh man, sorry, but you know the light's going out whatever
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it takes. But I mean, the fact that it happened against sax State,
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I would say, is not surprising to anybody who resides in the area
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and watches them play. So hey, good on the wolf Pack for figuring
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out a way to bring the wildlife into the game and throw a monkey wrench
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into what sax State was doing. When I saw the monkey wrench. When
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I saw this, there was no way I could avoid leaving this thing off.
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You know, I have to go buy the pundit's fund that they're Yeah,
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Sports Exchange has a magazine feel to it sometimes and with this topic,
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could certainly mention that. All right, JB. Ellis, what are your
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thoughts on this one. We've had be swarm games and delay them, We've
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had bats now, we've had you know, power outages, rain, But
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the bats, I gotta say, it's going to be the most interesting one
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that I've seen so far, you know, just odd and it's not the
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first time it's happened, as you said, which I found interesting. You
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would think that they'd find a way to relocate the bats, Okay, George,
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Yeah, that's that's what I was going to say, JB. I
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mean, you bring into people from natural resources there in the Reno area and
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try to, you know, catch them and try to release them to the
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outdoors. Something should have been done about that. I gotta my only bad
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experience. That experience was a vacation up in the Upper Peninsula. We rented
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a cottage, a cabin if you will, A set of cabins was out
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in the wilderness up in Michigan's up and lo and behold, there was a
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bat or two as soon as we brought our stuff from our car into the
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cabin. Oh my god, scared the crap out of everybody of my family.
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So I've experienced those bats once before, but uh, never had a
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sporting event. Never never liked that. It's a wild story, wild game.
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Scott. Did you just see George, like John Candy, out of
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the great outdoors with a net running around the cabin trying to catch this bat
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that popped in my head? I could just see George through trying to catch
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the bat in the fishing net like John Candy. I'm seeing them hitting the
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Scott Morgan Roth in the face with an or trying to get it, and
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I kind of like to leave that alone. I got enough problem with my
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vision these days, so that might fix it. Or Jacob, you're gonna
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need a whole lot more to fix my vision than that. Try again.
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Tell now that you're talking here, you can go ahead give me your take
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on. I mean, here's what I can think. I mean, you're
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you're looking around and seeing if there's a spotlight. That's just the whole thing,
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seeing if there's a reason. But we've had a thousand of these things
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over the time, And here's my question to Steve Alford. You're a Bob
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Knight guy. Why didn't you just take a couple of chairs and throw them
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maybe you'll get them back. I mean this, I mean seriously. But
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I mean remember San Antonio nineteen ninety four had that big old shooting thing of
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water that went off right on this thing. And it's like, which I
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mean, see back in the day when people didn't look to be victims,
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they actually just like ran for their lives. Now you'd have a couple of
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people like getting thrown down the stairs and throw themselves down the stairs so they
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can sue. It's like, you know, dark, I'm surprised they didn't
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try this with bats. It's just such a weird situation. But and who
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knows, Maybe we're gonna see Maybe we're gonna go somewhere else, like in
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the FOBA. Like you know, with the FOBA, i'd see the international
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basketball and we'll see hornets, or we'll see moths, or we'll see any
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and it's gonna look like the end of the world. Well, you know
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why they couldn't remove them because bats have rights to guys. That's why there's
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still in there. You can't move the remove the bats, because the bats
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have the rights to remain in the building. Absolutely evidently they seem to have
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taken ownership of the building. And anytime somebody could bring a Bobby Knight reference
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with Steve Alford, I'll leave it at that. But anyway, here's a
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topic that was intended for Pundit's Pundit. But because of the rule that I
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have that you have two weeks, okay to put it on. No,
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that doesn't matter. We put it on the Sports Exchange. This is the
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big show here. Okay, there you go. But according to nothing against
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fund It's fun. It's a great magazine show. We do what we got
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to do, to do what we gotta do. But according to Fox two
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in Detroit, should student athletes who attend Michigan high schools be allowed to make
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money off their name? A built that would prohibit schools from preventing students from
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profiting off their likeness just passed the Michigan House, clearing the chamber by sixty
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six forty three. Vo all right, you know want Jacob, We're gonna
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go around with you. What's your take on this? Say that one more
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time? Okay. According to Fox too in Detroit. Should student athletes who
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attend Michigan high schools be allowed to make money off their name? Okay,
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yes, I'm gonna say because absolutely yes, because the reason I'm saying I
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understand what you're saying there, Mike. I'm sorry, I'm not to get
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off your lawn yet. No, the big the issue I have, it's
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by by the by anything else. It shouldn't be by anything else, by
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any of that kind of stuff, by anything we should be saying now it
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shouldn't. But we're gonna say college, high school, any of those things.
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They always did back in the fifties, sixties, all those times,
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there was the promise of your getting yourself the education. You're getting this,
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you're getting your cafeteria, you're getting all this stuff like that. Now so
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many people are making millions off of them. They are because the high schools
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are on ESPN. Now all the high schools have their own feeds. I
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was talking to people. I was talking to people by the way JB about
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our little idea for high school shows, and they were saying it's gonna be
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interesting because I mean, what just our guy from our meeting. It was
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other people saying that they've got their own feeds that it's gonna make it tougher
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for us to get that. I'm just saying, there's a little face,
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so everybody has a chance to make money off of them, and they're not
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making that. I absolutely if they're going to do that, I am absolutely
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gonna believe this because they're gonna because you want to know the biggest thing they're
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going to tea everybody over corrects themselves in this country. They overcorrect it,
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and all of a sudden, you're gonna see millions upon billions upon everything and
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still no money for the kids. And there are a lot of kids.
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Regardless of how terrible they are of spending the money, there's a lot of
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kids that would be used that way to help their families. George, absolutely
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not. I do not want it at the high school level, Listen,
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There's plenty of jobs out there for the kids to make a little side bet.
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They could do cashier at Walmart or a greeter at Meyer department store.
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I mean, there's so many jobs, Listen. I had a newspaper route.
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I did sell newspapers in front of my church every Sunday and made some
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money that way, and then I worked at a bakery one summer. So
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no, because there's enough competition in high school among the kids. Okay,
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and then so what are you gonna do. You're gonna have a name,
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image, image and likeness and just you know, some of the big shot
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kids are gonna be able to take advantage of it, the stars of the
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team, or can the basketball team do it? But boy, I'm on
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the swim team and there's nothing there for me. I mean, you know,
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bowling team. I mean, come on, you know we got enough
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issues right now with the college having it, let alone the high school level.
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I'm dead set against it. Guys, what about you? J Listen,
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everyone else is profiting off of these players, whether they're Kiwi's college players.
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If someone wants to pay them to use their name and their likeness,
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that's fine. It's called the open market. Why should Why should the schools
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make the money? Why should the organization? The In New York City it's
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the p s a L or the ch SAA, the Catholic High Schools Association.
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Why should they make the money? Why are they better than the than
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the athlete or the athlete's family. If someone's willing to pay them for it,
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let them get it. You know, were already doing it in college.
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Who why should they you know, why why shouldn't they have that right
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to make that money? You know, it just does it make sense.
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And I'm about saying that they're going to make money. But if someone wants
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to go out there and pay them their local supermarket, their local whatever,
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the local car dealership because they feel that some fourteen year old could get people
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into the door, let them make the money. You know, it doesn't
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make sense for them not to. Okay, Mike. So as much as
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I absolutely detest this, the idea of it, I see both sides.
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Well. The reason I detest it is because now you're going to take a
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high school sport, which the competitive balance in high school has already shifted to
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private schools as it is, So the problem is now you're going to open
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the This is going to open Pandora's box for recruiting and violations as far as
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crossing. For me, it's a competitive balance thing. Now what you said,
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JB. I completely get some of these schools are making money off of
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it. The problem I also have and I see this is opening a can
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of worms, unfortunately with some of the parents of these athletes because most of
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these kids are miners. Money's not going to them. That's the problem I
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see with it more than anything is if you get a big if the guy
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wants to pay the kid, that's great. But the problem is anything over
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I want to say, is it six thousand dollars a year has to go
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to the parents. They can't pay the kid directly because they're a minor.
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It has to go into a trust or a fund. So the problem is
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that, I guess, to me, I'm looking at it from a glass
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at half empty. I'd rather have the kids. Hey, look, here's
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what we're gonna do. You're gonna get a great scholarship. You're gonna get
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a decent you're gonna get a little bit of money so you don't have to
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have a side job. Okay, we're gonna pay you, pay you something.
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But I think it opens the door for some of these parents to get
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their hands on this money, and it make the I guess you can give
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the kid a choice at that point. And like I said, the other
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thing for me is it just leaves the door wide open for recruiting and taking
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the competitive balance away from teams and making it basically because in California, the
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only teams that can recruit under California law are private schools. A public school
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gets caught recruiting, and the public school gets banned from all out all postseason
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play for minimum of one year for their first violation. So I don't know
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Michigan's rules. I don't know their public school rules. So I guess the
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only people that are gonna benefit would be the parents and the private schools.
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And unfortunately, I'd rather just keep it the way it is. Hey,
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look, get through high school and when you get to the college and the
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big name program you're going to get, you're gonna get paid. Anyways,
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I get it some of the kids' families are impoverished and this would help them
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out. But I almost just think this causes more problems than it solves.
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Yeah, you know, my take is go both ways. But for some
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crazy reason, I don't have a problem with it. I mean, again,
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every state operates differently. You're talking about you also have to factor in
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small town America too, because you know what, that's the biggest thing of
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this whole thing. We know about the big cities that you're gonna do,
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but small town of America is the intangible factor. These small towns don't have
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anything except high schools. So if they're willing to give them a piece of
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the action, whether it's six thousand dollars, so be it, you know,
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and you got to wonder with every state anyway. Okay, are some
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schools recruiting anyways? I believe the last time I was at Lakeland High School
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in now White Lake, Michigan, Milford, that one of the gym teachers
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who I knew there's recruiting going on anyways. There's some of these schools are
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located within a mile or two of each other anyways, around borders like wal
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like for example, Waldlake Northern is really close to Lakeland, So I have
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a feeling there's recruiting going on anyhow, I don't have a problem. I
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understand where it can get out of control, but I think you have to
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look at it during a case by case basis is really what you have to
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do. But don't forget small town America. These kids are stars in those
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communities. Okay, then we've gone to college. And that's where I think
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when you put it all into perspective, Okay, and that's why the sub
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topic is really something that I know is a free for all form here and
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one that's we're talking about because you don't know what neck of the woods you're
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improving in, what state's going to do. I remember years ago then when
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Michigan started the seat belt law. You know, everybody followed suit. So
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again when you're talking states governing certain things, cities. But again, I
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don't have a problem. The kid's going to draw high school money where they
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should get some of the action. How much I don't know, and I'm
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not even going to get into the deeper math. It's just a principle that
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I think they should get something. I worked a job many years ago when
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I was in high school the kitchen in a local Greek restaurant, and I
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worked a lot of hours coping with my responsibilities at ws y Z radio with
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George, so I was able to, you know, as a producer for
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our radio show, right George, So you know, we balanced them out.
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I think the best thing I ever did was working with I corn Is.
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Obviously, you know, to me, it's taking me a long way.
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But I enjoyed working in school. But remember one thing. If I
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had athleticism and I wanted to play ball, I was going to do it,
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but it just never was meant to be. I was never want to
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play sports. I ended up writing talking about him. So, but it's
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certainly good to get a wide range of opinions on this. All right,
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Well, obviously we know about the big news of the week, and so
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I want reactions from each of you to Craig Council's five year, forty million
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plus deal with the Chicago Cubs a confidential episode if it hasn't happened already.
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All but I know all of his coaches are under contract with Milwaukee owner Mark
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Antonazio says he won't let them leave Council in nine seasons. Compile the seven
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oh seven, six twenty five on a five thirty one percentage above five hundred
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and six and nine seasons with five season birth Well, we've got two confidential
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guys on here, so the topic is definitely timely enough for these guys.
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All right, Jacob, what you're talking what's your take about council going down
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nine to ninety four? Well, I will tell you this right now.
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That was a big shot to JV and I big shot because we didn't think
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the jet Hoyer is going to do anything. But you think they're gonna do
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something like that. We're gonna they're gonna keep David Ross another year, which
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would have been a mistake. And you know, he had one year left
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on his contract. But the guy, he's just not gonna do much more.
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So all of a sudden, they said they were going to make a
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splash. Do you believe it? You don't until a thing the boy?
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They sure did. And guess what now they're saying, and I'm not saring
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sure if his happens or not, but they're saying that they're getting him,
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trying to be aggressive to get O Tommy. Now, yeah, I was
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reading up on that now, the thing being, even if you don't get
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him, this is a change. Now second part of changing life. The
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first part of change is when Dusty Baker was there, and I've got a
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whole article on that. I got a whole column on that, and it's
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like what changed when he came. The second part in life is this now,
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this type of thing. Now you're gonna get aggressive. Now you can
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be regular World Series contenders and not just the not just the one that broke
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it all. So the big thing about it is you can get and if
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nothing else, you get a wat Soda who walks a ton. He gets
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on base all the time. You can go get any kind of different ones
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that you want and maybe get another picture. I know they I know they
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picked up the option for Kyle Hendrix, which my favorite pitcher, I'll admit,
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but I'm not sure he's gonna get much better than this anymore. That's
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the whole point, just certain things. But I hope they pick up a
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couple other times they've lost Stroman and go pick up somebody, some big names
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there. So overall, I feel like this is a big thing for the
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future. George, Yeah, I was surprised too by the move, but
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I'll tell you what I mean. This guy has got to go for the
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contract and to support his career and his family. Also, I mean the
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money that was there, and let's face it, they dank. They put
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this money in front of the athletes and then sometimes they put in front of
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the coaches and the managers too. And we had a situation and again,
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I know you don't want me to keep talking about Detroit, but we had
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a nice man less Moss mos Oh good man. Yeah, good manager well
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behind his back, owner John Fetzer and GM Jim Campbell went and hired George
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Sparky Anderson and so hey, listen, I've lived to this before. I've
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seen the Red Wings go after Jacquesamier and Scottie Bowman. Hey listen, if
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a manager comes available. Whatever was going on behind the scenes, obviously he
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was putting his feelers out or whatever. I mean, I can't blame him
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one bit. I feel sorry for Milwaukee. I've always liked that team.
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He's done a marvelous job there, you know, and you know, I
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just you know, I always root for I like the Cubs too, But
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I think it's a bold move. But I think it was a necessary move,
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at least from the Cubs perspective. They had a good get somebody that
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had that kind of name value and you know, career aspirations. Well,
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JB, you live in the area. So this was a genius move.
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We spoke about it our cub financial earlier today. Nobody expected it, but
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it's I mean, had the opportunity to talk to Tom Bricketts at the Hall
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of Fame and you know, just tell them I like with what they're doing,
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the way the team is trending, and this shows exactly what I was
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saying. You know, they went after the key free agent where they got
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Bellinger last year, they signed him cautiously to a one year deal. You
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know, they brought in Dansby and they made the right moves with that.
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This is just following in that right direction. Ross was not the right fitness
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manager. I've been saying that for two years, you know, I'm sure
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Jacob must be tired of me saying that. They never have to say it
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again. I'll never have to say that again. And they went out there,
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they got the guy they think that could take him to where they want
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to go. And you know, this will help them and going after free
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agents, It'll show that they have the money to spend. If you're spending
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eight month you your manager, you're gonna spend the right amount of money to
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get the right guys to get you to that next I think they're gonna be
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a team to watch for the next few years. Mike. So, after
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twenty four hours of getting to deliberate it on a bit, I'm less shocked
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that it happened. I think I'm more surprised that the Cubs actually pulled the
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trigger and did it. I guess I'm shocked still, in a little bit
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odd. I thought he was gonna stay. I thought he thought he was
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really happy in Milwaukee. So it just shows that we don't know what's going
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on behind the scenes. I am kind of surprised that he I'm not surprised.
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I'm just I'd be interested to see the staff he puts together. But
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in retrospect, as far as the Cubs are concerned, you have to be
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elated. I mean, this is this is by far the best guy out
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there on the market, with the track record that he has, and from
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everybody's what everybody's saying is everybody loves him. So am I surprised that he
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left Milwaukee? Yeah? Am I surprised he went to Chicago? Yeah?
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But all in all, it's a genius move for the Cubs. It shows
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that they are trending in the right direction, that they're making the right moves.
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As Jab said, it's just another building piece in the last couple of
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years of the right steps. And no, I don't think keeping the manager
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again this year was going to help anybody. I think he's run his course.
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So I think bringing in counsel is the right move, and I think
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the Cubs are better for it. I think the one thing that I really
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believe in. Is this okay? Counsel wasn't only doing it for himself.
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He was doing it to reset the manager's market for payroll. And I give
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the man a lot of credit. You know, when I look at some
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of the college basketball and other sports paying what their managers and coaches are Baseball,
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many of them are vastly underpaid compared to other sports. I think I
24:41
read something like Bill Self had like a thirteen million dollar contract over at Kansas,
24:47
and meanwhile Craig Counsel is looking at a deal about eight million bus Not
24:52
to me, I think Craig Counsels, I understand Bill self is worth out
24:56
in Kansas, But to me, Counsel was setting the manager's market to see
25:00
if he can raise the standards of what these managers are really truly worth.
25:06
Remember, these guys only have one hundred and sixty two game season, more
25:10
than any other sport out there. Then if you're lucky enough to get to
25:12
the postseason, you had more, and of course you have strange training.
25:17
So what do we got close to two hundred games a year? Right?
25:19
And we're and you look at the pay plan in its sense, So more
25:23
power to Craig. I also don't have a problem with the guy uprooting his
25:27
family if that's what he plans to do. So, Craig, more power
25:32
to you. You took the money you ran and you were looking to get
25:34
a raise and you deserve it. And you know what, based on the
25:37
stats that just talked about, and going to say them one more time to
25:42
justify the value that the Ricketts family made talking about nine seasons with the Brewers,
25:48
Okay, the all time when he is manager who he left the place
25:51
of seven oh seven, six twenty five above five hundred and six and nine
25:55
seasons and five that's pretty good for that market. Now again, the intrigui
26:00
who they hire a more power to Crag and I hope that they're able to
26:03
reset the managerial market and Craig is the one that will go down and do
26:07
it. Remember once upon a time, Kirk Flood okay, you know,
26:11
was looking for what what do you call it? Free agency and some kind
26:15
of and it ultimately words. But I'm going to go back to a George
26:18
said, because I remember this, and this is one time I'm glad you
26:21
made the Detroit reference. Les Moss went through the Tigers farm system. But
26:25
when Sparky Anderson came. They had no choice but to jump on him because
26:29
I think the Yankees are going to go after him, but the Tigers got
26:30
to them first. So great reactions from each and every one. Yeah,
26:36
yeah, it's unbelievable. All right, Well, what we're going to do
26:38
is I got one more topic of the night and then I'm going to let
26:41
everybody have their own party shot. All right, fair enough, And the
26:44
Miami Dolphins Kansas City Chiefs is the most watched NFL Network international game on record,
26:49
viewership nine point six million across TV and digital, up sixty six percent
26:56
versus a week ten during the yet in a game. All right, Jacob,
27:00
Well know that football is going growing globally, but these numbers are staggering.
27:07
Oh yeah, and this is the big thing. As see when this
27:11
first happened, going across the world like England, You're doing Germany and Mexico,
27:17
all this kind of stuff. It was it could be any game because
27:21
you're just trying to show the NFL. You know what you had last week
27:25
a really fun Kansas City Miami game. Those are cool teams. This is
27:32
and I'm glad that it's making its way now as far as across the world,
27:37
because that means you're only going to have the very best games in those
27:44
items. You're not going to see see Thursday Night. We're gonna be seeing
27:48
as much as I love the Bears, Bears and the Panthers horrible at the
27:52
bottom. Yeah, oh yeah, we love those Thursday Night bad Oh my
27:57
god. And we get to see Michaels do this thirty second down three and
28:03
oh that's a run. Yay. Well I think it gets a billion dollars
28:04
of doing that. But no, guess what on Thursday Night, it's forever
28:10
gonna be horrible games. It's gonna be the the bestroom sep Child, if
28:12
you will, it's going to be. But these games nine million. That's
28:18
because you have cool teams, with cool offenses, with cool everything in a
28:23
new world. It is two ferraris going at it. That's what it is.
28:27
That is what if they you know that's gonna mean is everybody goes across
28:33
the world, see next week is gonna be boring. It's gonna be the
28:36
Indianapolis and the New England that's just set from that thing. After what you
28:41
see and then when you see the ratings gonna kind of go down from that,
28:44
they're going to bring in the very best. They're gonna and they might
28:48
even flex the game, you know, to make sure it's the best.
28:52
It's just what it might be a considerate for the players. But they're just
28:56
gonna get that because to get something, you wanted to get the best around
29:02
and that's what that game needs to be. Germany, England, all that
29:06
kind of stuff. If you want to get it across the world, you
29:08
don't want Indianapolis and New England two and seven. Okay, George, Well,
29:15
unless Jacob has an insider on the NFL Competition Committee, which I don't
29:21
believe he has. Jacob, you know this that they're scheduling these games years
29:27
in advance. Okay, Yeah, I know what you're saying. From a
29:30
fans perspective, you would hope that there would be more Miami case matchups.
29:34
But the fact of the matter is it's on a rotation basis. Of course,
29:38
there's a exception. Jacksonville obviously plays there a lot, and that's the
29:42
exception. But this year, for example, it was down to Detroit or
29:48
Miami, and I don't know the Lions weren't. I don't know they'll get
29:53
theirs next year. It's from all indications because they haven't gone to Europe in
29:56
quite a while, but the fact that he is. Sometimes the league would
30:03
like these to be premier matches, but they can't be because it's this rotation
30:07
that's going on when they go to Europe or they go I mean to London
30:10
or to Germany. That being said, it was a hell of a game,
30:15
a hell of a matchup, and obviously it was one for the record
30:18
books, like you said, Scott, the record viewership. But as far
30:22
as I know, I mean, I know, I like this the trend
30:26
that you proposed, Jacob, but right now that's not the way it's set
30:30
up, at least until the Competition committee takes another look at it. That's
30:38
it, Jab. I mean, who wouldn't want to watch the number one
30:44
offense against the number one team in the NFL? You know, Unfortunately Miami
30:52
could only be talked about as a number one offense because they haven't beaten anybody
30:55
good and they threw up seventy points against Denver. But you know, I
31:00
mean, it's the story. You got Tyreek Hill, who played the kids
31:03
a city, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey and Taylor swift and
31:07
mean, who doesn't want to watch that? It's you know, I mean
31:11
not about talking about US five. We'd watch whatever game you put on.
31:15
It doesn't matter what two teams are on it. I'm sure we all watch
31:18
the Jets, Chargers Monday night. We're all gonna watch the Bears Panthers Thursday
31:22
night because we watch all the game. But the casual fan, that was
31:27
a dream matchup. They kicking any better than that? Yeah, you know
31:32
so. I think the NFL got lucky the way the rotation worked out.
31:36
It worked out perfectly in their favor, and it gave them a great spotlight.
31:41
Big Mike Well, I think what those numbers do more than anything is
31:45
it gives the NFL more incentive to say, hey, sometime in the next
31:49
decade, we need a team in London. I mean, let's be honest,
31:52
that's what it's setting up. Because if you do the rotation, you
31:56
just take a rotation of teams that are going to go over. And what
31:57
you do is whoever plays whatever team is in London or whatever team ends up
32:01
in London when they're the home team, whoever comes over, they get the
32:06
bye week the next week. There's a way to rationalize out the schedule that
32:08
doesn't punish anybody for going over there. And I just think the numbers are
32:12
so massive and you're seeing I mean they had. What's funny is, yeah,
32:15
you saw a lot of Miami and Kansas City jerseys. I saw Bengals
32:20
jerseys, I saw Rams jerseys. You saw jerseys of every NFL team at
32:25
all of these games that were over there. So NFL is, you know,
32:29
starting to print their own money as far as the TV deals and everything
32:31
else. So to me, the numbers just point to guess what, it
32:36
is very viable for us now. You know, five years ago it was
32:38
kind of gimmicky they were doing it. The fields were garbage, These games
32:42
were like six to three because the guys couldn't keep their footing, the stadiums
32:45
wouldn't hold wouldn't hold up to their kind of pressure on the turf and such.
32:51
But when you get games like this where it turns out to where it's
32:53
a seven point one score ball game late in the game and you have nine
32:57
million viewers, the NFL is gonna find out way to do that on a
33:00
I mean, what is it four games this year? I think four or
33:04
five games? I mean, how much of a stretch is it to play
33:07
eight games there then and have a team full time in London and have that
33:10
as a base of your NFL franch NFL Division. So I see it coming.
33:16
It's great for the NFL, it was great for fans, it was
33:20
great for fans over there, and in the end, I just think it
33:23
paves the way for a and ANNFL team overseas. All right, let me
33:27
point out a couple things. Number One, it's worth noting Joe already alluded
33:30
to it. The Dolphins are six and zero against teams that don't have winning
33:34
records, and oh and three against teams that do have winning records. It's
33:38
a fact. Period. Now here's what you have. You have a seventeen
33:43
game schedule, and the players were reluctant to do it. But here's what
33:47
I see down the road. By the time you hit the next collective bargaining
33:52
agreement, you're going to have another USFL too. What do I mean by
33:54
that? You're going to have two regular season games and eighteen games. Now,
34:00
you can do what you want with those other two games. But I
34:02
wouldn't be surprised if that all leads to more international games overseas. And you
34:07
never know how many more international markets get again again mind you, is it
34:12
hypothetical? Yeah, but let's face reality. When you look at the NFL
34:16
exhibition over the years. I think they once had eighth and they went down
34:20
to six, and they went down to four, and now they've gone down
34:22
to three. It's inevitable they're gonna hit two. Then you're gonna have an
34:25
even number anyways, with regular season games. And if that didn't even matter,
34:30
you got the Canadian Football League that has what an eighteen game schedule,
34:35
so we went to the seventeen to get ready to go to the eighteen.
34:38
So yeah, there's no question that you have a marquee matchup there. Put
34:43
Miami in Kansas City. I'm sure the Kansas City Chiefs would have loved to
34:46
have had Tyreek Hill at at Arrowhead Stadium. Didn't quite work out that way.
34:52
This is how the dominoes dropped and Tyreek I'm sure it would have been
34:57
received pretty well over there. But yeah, you had a marquee football game
35:00
and the numbers speak for themselves. Yeah. Just real quick with the whole
35:06
international thing, with Mike saying ding a team, I love the idea of
35:12
trying to do that, but I think one team would it be viable.
35:15
You'd have to do four team division and to even it out, you'd have
35:21
to find another way to do it. So you'd have to basically do like
35:23
a Mexico and Canada, you know, have like another four teams there because
35:29
then you get four and four in both conferences, and then you have the
35:34
teams that you know had to Europe. Pretty much every team would end up
35:37
going there. They play within their own division twice a year, so that
35:42
cuts down to travel. I think that would be the way to go.
35:45
You put a team in Germany, put a team in England, and then
35:49
figure out what of the two places maybe you put you know too, with
35:52
Germany Contrebanty's pretty big, but you can find a spot for four teams in
35:57
Europe and then you can find you know, definitely, then you could do
36:01
Mexico City. I'm sure they would love that, and you'd have to kind
36:06
of figure out where in Canada just you were going to get Toronto JB because
36:12
it's right next to Buffalo, but Montreal would be fair game. I think
36:17
Montreal would whether we like it or not. Now you know, Joe,
36:21
you make a great point and I'll tell you why you make a really really
36:24
good point. Once upon a time you had the World League of American Football.
36:29
It really was I know, a lot of peak coaches that were there
36:30
and administrators and won't get in names really not necessary, but you did have
36:36
that. The only problem was it was a little too expensive for the NFL
36:38
to go ahead and maintain. So I could definitely see your point having four
36:43
teams in Europe if they decided to go that route, and maybe two here
36:46
in North America, Mexico being one, and then I guess it's really I
36:52
don't think you'd ever get Toronto. I really don't Montreal or maybe Vancouver would
36:57
be the other one. I don't know. I mean, that's just speculation
37:00
my part. But I'm just trying to validate, Joe, not that you
37:02
need to be validated anyways, because I think the point's great about where we
37:06
could possibly put these teams, That's all I'm saying. So I think,
37:09
again, they're doing a marvelous job to begin with with the international games,
37:14
But I think the most realistic possibility now without the expansion guys, would be,
37:20
you know, you go to a team, but then each team is
37:22
required to play two games in Europe for now, and then you have eight
37:28
and eight coorse that the Jacksville jaguarsaid they way they may be playing more than
37:31
that, and we don't even know what it's gonna have with their stadium situation
37:35
to begin with, because they have to remodel it, so you know there's
37:37
a little variable out there. So but you know, I really like talking
37:42
about international because we see how much it's really ratcheted up. And again Mike
37:47
makes a really good point. You know, you got jerseys from every team
37:51
and all these venues, so don't matter. The reality is they like American
37:54
football. And you know when we even look on Twitter, I look at
37:57
how many NFL UK counselor are my bottling. It's really great. There's an
38:02
actual rumor online right now that says if Jacksonville has to remodel that stadium,
38:07
that they may be the test subject and may be a team that has that
38:10
does play. That's the rumor, is the conspiracy theories where that's why they
38:15
played two games there back to back was to give them a feeling of what
38:20
that what it would be like to have to be their long term and so
38:23
they may be a team that hey, if they don't get the stadium deal
38:25
done or it has to be remodeled and they don't want to play in a
38:29
college or another stadium that who knows, we could see them play six eight
38:32
games over there. Well, you know what, Mike, that doesn't surprise
38:36
me one minute. I think you're really right with the two Joe, did
38:38
you want to add something to this? Well, I mean with the two
38:43
weeks of that makes sense because you know, if they're playing their whole game
38:47
season home season there, they're not going to fly back at four six different
38:52
times. They're going to play back to back games four maybe four times,
38:58
or have a three game homestead, go on the road, come back for
39:00
three because they're not They're gonna want to decrease their travel as much as possible.
39:06
Yeah, yeah, I mean again, well, maybe one night we'll
39:08
talk about a subject about where the Jaguars should go out. That's an idea
39:13
down the road. But I know where you're coming from, Mike. I've
39:15
dealt with the Jacksonville situation for a while, and they dependent on those London
39:20
games just to break even and make a little bit money for the year.
39:22
That's a shot tons on great point though, right now, we're actually going
39:25
to go to parting shots, great pace here, So I'm going to actually
39:29
lead off with one I picked on Philadelphia last week. I'm gonna do it
39:31
again. Okay, Ready, The Philadelphia Flyers are the only team in NHL
39:37
history to lose twice. The ten teams that were win less ten plus games
39:42
into the year, you're ready for this. Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
39:46
the Arizona Coyotes did it, and last night you had the San Jose Sharks
39:52
are oh ten and one. You know what, Once upon a time they
39:54
were the Broad Street bullies. You can characterize them any time you want,
40:00
but if you're zero to ten, you definitely want to feel that that's the
40:04
city of brotherly love if you're looking to snap that losing streak. So that's
40:07
my party shot. No, no, I'm gonna say this to you.
40:10
There was a time when George soharias on the Baby Distance in Hurius. There
40:15
was a quote that she once said, it was like I thought he was
40:20
a Greek god. Now it's a damn Greek you know, I mean that
40:22
that kind of thing, And it's like, now this is the same thing,
40:25
neither. What's the broad streak bullies now to get bullied by the bronze.
40:30
You know what, Jacob, do me a favor, Okay, don't
40:34
mess up my parting shot. That's a statistic. That's a stat that's something
40:39
to what we ride ourselves here is we educate informed, and we entertain And
40:49
I don't know when you keep messing up my parting shot. That's a hard
40:52
fact, pal, And that's what I preach in my book. But you
40:54
know what Jacob, you do is just to get under my skin every week
40:58
by trying to get under my to mess on my parting shot. I don't
41:00
care anyways. It's all fun at the beginning with it. But yeah,
41:04
I mean, I mean, think about the Arizona Coyotes and the San Jose
41:07
Sharks go to Philadelphia snap long ten game, losing strings. That's mine,
41:13
all right, Jacob, Since you really wanted to get a piece of my
41:15
action, what's yours? Well? I thought my party shot was gonna be
41:20
about Quincy High School. They might all honors in the third and the quarterfinal
41:23
round first time ever, But not tonight because I found another one. Am
41:30
a Harshburger. Highland High School. That's farm country around that Highland, Illinois,
41:37
those type of ones with ever because she's a softball player there Highland High
41:40
those types Normally when you see their letter of intent, when you see the
41:45
little show with their letter intent and everything. Normally it's linden Wood, it's
41:49
you know, go to Culver Stockton. We have a place in camp Missouri.
41:52
Againton, Illinois, can't Missouri. I'd see Cuver Stockton, Hannibal of
41:57
Grange. It's usually those little local areas. She just did one today from
42:00
this little big town Cornell University Ivy League. She did it and it's like,
42:08
from what I hear, it's a phenomenal, hard working family. They've
42:13
gotten her raised right. So a farm girl's gonna go in the middle of
42:19
all that, you know what I'm saying. And another one, Skyler Thompson,
42:22
who was in Miami Dolphins and win a playoff game last year. His
42:25
dad coached at Palmyra, Missouri, so he's been from that farm area too.
42:31
This is showing me something to everything. The world's changing. Everybody wants
42:39
to fly. Everybody, Yep, everybody wants to fly, clip their wings
42:45
and fly. You know what I'm saying. They want to clip the something
42:47
and they want to fly away and be able to do these type of deals.
42:51
Not everybody's just gonna stay close to home Anymoore. This isn't Mayberry Everybody's
42:55
and it's like this is a competitive world. Get ready for it, George.
43:02
Well, my parting shot is again, you know, the national media
43:07
again on the Jim Harbaugh and University of Michigan wolverine story. Everybody wants to
43:14
jump to conclusions. Everybody wants to suspend the guy, or penalize the team,
43:19
or take this away or take that away. And now there's a lot
43:22
of pressure on the Big ten, so the facts have to come out.
43:27
We've said this before on other shows on your platform, Scott, We've said
43:31
it before, but most people don't have the patience. They want instant gratification,
43:37
they want instant punishment. And I'm not here to back up if he
43:40
did something illegally or wrong. All I'm here to say is get the facts.
43:45
Get the facts. Frank Reynolds had to get the facts. How upset
43:50
he was. President Reagan was shot and then somebody came on the air and
43:54
said that Jim Brady was dead. And I'll never forget Frank's reaction. Upset
44:00
he was in that newsroom at ABC. But this is not that situation.
44:04
This is not life and death. But putting all this pressure on the Big
44:08
Ten and the NCAA, they got to take their time and get through it.
44:14
You want to penalize them because they're undefeated at BS, sure, okay,
44:20
Jbi So. An article came out eight thirty five tonight Ohio State's Ryan
44:30
Day denies giving Michigan sign signs to Purdue before the Big Ten title game?
44:37
Are you kidding me? What a disgusting organization at the top it all,
44:42
and even better when Rutgers is also named in the article that they also provided
44:47
Purdue with Michigan sides. Two trash schools that you know, if the Big
44:54
Ten didn't need Ohio State because you have the Ohio State, Michigan get rid
45:00
of them their garbage anyway, and Rutgers, seriously, what was the last
45:04
time they were good with anything? Giano horrible coach, piece of garbage,
45:10
stealing sides. You're gonna say, Harbor did it? Now? You guys
45:15
are implicated just trash. How about we just play the game? Is it
45:19
that difficult to just coach your guys? How much? How much do these
45:22
guys get paid and you're gonna sit there and say, oh, Jim Harbor,
45:25
Jim Harbor, Jim Harbor. But yet meanwhile you're doing the same damn
45:30
thing. You know, don't don't look in the mirror if you you know,
45:35
stand there, if you don't have anything, if it doesn't come back
45:37
to you, guys are losers. You know, this is what's wrong with
45:40
sports. You have people that cheat Lion Steel, how about just be honest
45:46
to coach the damn kids? Bad enough? The recruiting has been fraudulent for
45:52
years through all these schools, not just you know, the top specialty.
45:57
It was all under the table. Guys were getting to get about the FBI,
46:00
you know, the coaches. Adidas was evolved with it at one point.
46:06
Now you're stealing sides. Can't you just frigging coach people? But you
46:09
get paid to do? Enough is enough with these frauds. That's some point,
46:16
if you know what. I have an update on Michigan in a moment.
46:19
I'm gonna go to mic first. Well, my parting shot today is
46:25
the race for the bottom tomorrow needs to be won by the Bears. The
46:30
Bears need to make sure that they win that game tomorrow because in classic Bears
46:34
fashion. If they don't win the game, they screw themselves six ways from
46:38
sideways by giving the team whose first pick they have a win. So let's
46:44
go out there tomorrow, guys. Not only that I want to see Badget
46:45
get another win, I want to see Badget be the winning quarterback. But
46:49
please, please, oh please, let's not screw this up Tomorrow night,
46:52
and the Bears beat Carolina and secure themselves a one game tiebreaker no matter what
46:57
at the end of the season for the best for the number one pick.
47:00
At least we know if we end up with the same record at the end
47:02
of season that we beat Carolina, so they take that first pick above us
47:07
because it's ours and all we do by losing this game is hurt ourselves in
47:12
the end, which unfortunately, as a Bears fan, I've become all too
47:15
accustomed. So based from the bottom, Tomorrow night, Bears have to come
47:19
out on top, all right. Now. This report came out two hours
47:22
ago, and it came from the Associated Press about Michigan. Michigan tells Big
47:27
Ten Commission he doesn't have the discipline or the authority. So I'm going to
47:30
read on a little bit and George just might add a little bit to what
47:34
you're talking about. Try to add a little light to the whole thing.
47:37
Okay, and that's this. The University of Michigan warned Big Ten Commissioner Tony
47:42
Pettiti about overstepping his authority and rushing to judgment, insisting Wednesday that he cannot
47:47
discipline Jim Harball under the conference's sportsmanship policy for an alleged science stealing scheme that
47:54
is rock college football. Parts of the bullistering ten page letters sent Patiti were
48:00
shared by the Associated Press by two people who have seen it and spoke on
48:05
condition of animinity because they were not authorized by the school to disclose its contents.
48:12
The letter is Michigan's response to Big Ten's notification a potential discipline of hardball's
48:16
undefeated, second ranked team, which is among the favorites to win the national
48:20
championships. So you know, there's a little take. I guess the way
48:23
I'm going to react to this is the way I've done it when I've spoken
48:27
before. Do process, folks, Okay, let this thing play out.
48:31
How many times have we seen situations in college where you've gone out there and
48:38
came down on a program and all of a sudden mistakes were made. I
48:43
think there's a big mistake waiting here. Too many people are jumping in too
48:46
many. Maybe there's a lot of Michigan haters, but then again, when
48:50
you're winning, lots of teams like lots of people like to hate you anyway.
48:53
So, and another interesting storyline that I want to bring up, and
48:58
this one's actually a much better field good story that the the La Angels have
49:04
hired Ron Washington as a manager on a two year deal. Very quickly,
49:08
Okay, before we close this show out, jacob Ron Washington has another chance.
49:15
He's seventy one years old, but he deserves it. And it's good
49:17
that yet another African American will have an opportunity to lead a team. But
49:22
this guy's had guided Texas to some of his best years. Give me quick
49:25
takes before we call it a night. Oh yeah, and he's been here
49:29
in Atlanta through this time. And here's the thing. Seventy one's a different
49:32
seventy that they're at all different. Dusty's was different. This guy's really different
49:37
because at least Dusty has bad knees. He looks like he's lipping his way
49:40
along, but he's he's just active but he's he looks his eight. Doney,
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you take one look. We've been close to a few games. I've
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been in a few games with Ron Washington round the dude's jacks. He's seventy
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at jacks. It's like it's a different type of seventy. He's got all
49:54
the energy in the world to do this. And yes, he had done
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some good Texas teams. He can do this, There's no question about it.
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George, what's your reaction to this. Oh, I'm happy for him
50:06
as Uh, you know, when when Texas was battling the Tigers in some
50:09
of those postseason matchups, I've always admired Ronnie a good manager. That was
50:15
a great manager clash between Washington and Leland and uh, he did. Like
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you said, Jacob, he did a good, good, good job down
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in Texas with the Rangers, and I'm all for it. I'm glad he
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got I got this opportunity to with the Angels. JB. Listen, he's
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a great guy. Glad to see. Uh, you know, he got
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the job. He's well liked, he's been her on baseball a long time.
50:45
I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about Rob Washington and Mike,
50:52
No, it's a great hire. I do say one thing. I
50:54
like Ron Washington. I will be interested to see what that team looks like
50:59
once he's actually behind the wheel next year, because who knows what that roster
51:02
looks like, what pieces are there, what pieces aren't there. But at
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seventy one, you just said it, right, dude, Jacked. I
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mean, if I look like that at seventy one, I'm over the moon.
51:12
But great guy, great baseball mind, liked by everybody. So congratulations
51:16
to him for getting another shot, and congratulations did the Angels for hiring him.
51:21
Yeah, I agree with you all the way. I think this is
51:23
an excellent hire. But the Angels were looking for a veteran manager all along.
51:28
Anyways, I know they looked at Buck Showalter. Buck Shelter Showalter to
51:32
me, would be a good choice. I still think he should get one
51:36
more managerial job. But keeping the focus on Ron Washington, he's been a
51:39
winner, and what they need is a very stabilizing influence for that team because
51:45
they're during an unsettled period. We don't know what's going to happen with shoe
51:47
Heyotani and the rest of the roster. You don't know if Mike Fowl will
51:52
ever stay healthy for an entire year, so there's probably a lot more questions
51:55
and answers. So all right, well, now's the point where we let
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