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Sharri | 23 March · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening Tonight our scoop that Pauline Hansen turned down
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Speaker 2: a meeting with President Donald Trump to be in Adelaide
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Speaker 2: for the South Australian election. It shows the clout she's
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Speaker 2: receiving internationally, where she's positioning herself as a Nigel Farage
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Speaker 2: like figure. More details than our exclusive. In a moment,
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Speaker 2: the clock is ticking on President Trump's deadline to Iran
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Speaker 2: to open the Strait of hor Moos, or he'll obliterate
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Speaker 2: their energy sites. Across live to Israel to speak with
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Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Minister Sharen Haskell or major concerns tonight that
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Speaker 2: the alban Eazy government is losing its grip on the
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Speaker 2: fuel crisis. As Chris Bowden suggests that more Australians should
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Speaker 2: work from home. Broadcasting legend Ray Hadley will be here
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Speaker 2: to unpack it all, and the editor of the Australian
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Speaker 2: Financial Review has to Knight defended a vile anti Semitic cartoon.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he said in defense of this cartoon. Shortly,
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Speaker 2: but first, Pauline Hanson has turned down a meeting with
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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump to be in Adelaide for the South
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Speaker 2: Australia election. I can reveal Hansen was invited by her friend,
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Speaker 2: supporter and donor Gina Reinhart to meet with President Trump
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Speaker 2: in the United States on the weekend, but she chose
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Speaker 2: not to attend and instead she was in Adelaide for
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Speaker 2: the state election. Hanson's supporters are key to position her
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Speaker 2: as a key figure on the world stage, similar to
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Speaker 2: reform leader Nigel Farage. The meeting between Gina Reinhart and
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Speaker 2: others did go ahead with President Trump, and I'm told
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Speaker 2: it was very successful, but Pauline Hanson wasn't there. It
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Speaker 2: shows she's prioritizing advancing her position in Australian politics, and
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Speaker 2: it's a focus that's paying off because One Nation surged
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Speaker 2: ahead at the Essay election despite winning and looks like
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Speaker 2: up to three lower House seats. We're waiting to hear.
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Speaker 2: We'll hear the results in a moment, but it looks
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Speaker 2: like they could win three lower House seats. But their
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Speaker 2: primary was certainly higher than the Liberal parties. Here's the
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Speaker 2: state of play right now. You can see their labor
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Speaker 2: with a primary of thirty seven percent, One Nation at
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Speaker 2: twenty two percent, compared with the Liberals at just nineteen.
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Speaker 2: This is extraordinary. One Nation now has a higher primary
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Speaker 2: vote than the Liberal Party. It's becoming the second biggest
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Speaker 2: political force in Australia after Labor based on these results,
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Speaker 2: and the Coalition is worried about it, with Leader Angus
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Speaker 2: Taylor and National Leader Matt Canavan today warning that are
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Speaker 2: split in the Conservative vote between the Coalition and One
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Speaker 2: Nation risks entrenching Labor in power. And this is true,
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Speaker 2: that is the reality. But the Coalition can't complain about it.
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Speaker 2: They need to examine why voters are turning to One Nation.
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Speaker 2: The single biggest policy platform for One Nation is anti
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Speaker 2: immigration and opposition to radical Islamist extremists. Voters are worried
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Speaker 2: about this right now for a number of reasons. High
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Speaker 2: inflation and the cost of living have been building for years,
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Speaker 2: put in growing and cumulative pressure on families. Albanesi's Big
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Speaker 2: Australia agenda has put further pressure on housing, which has
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Speaker 2: exacerbated the issue. This is not a matter of opinion,
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Speaker 2: but a matter of economics.
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Speaker 3: If we don't run a small immigration program that's better
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Speaker 3: target these shortages of housing, infrastructural as other things are
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Speaker 3: just going to continue forever. It needs to be smaller
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Speaker 3: so we don't so demand doesn't run ahead of supply.
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Speaker 3: We also need a better target immigration system that targets
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Speaker 3: areas of genuine scored a shortage like tradees, instead of
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Speaker 3: importing more Uber drivers, which we don't need.
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Speaker 2: The Australian dream of owning your own home has been
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Speaker 2: the bedrock of society for generations. It's now becoming increasingly
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Speaker 2: out of touch. But it's not just cost of living.
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Speaker 2: Social cohesion two is a key factor behind one nation's rise.
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Speaker 2: The Bondai terror attack was allegedly committed by shooters with
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Speaker 2: an ISIS flag across the car. They also allegedly recorded
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Speaker 2: videos in front of ISIS flags where they condemned Zionists.
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Speaker 2: The bloody massacre at Bondai, where a little girl was killed,
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Speaker 2: is the reality of the threat posed by Islamist extremists
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Speaker 2: in Australia now. Hansen's message against radical Islam resonates with
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Speaker 2: many who are deeply worried that extremist ideology may be
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Speaker 2: taking hold in parts of Western Sydney. The concern is justified.
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Speaker 2: Look at the reaction to Anthony Alberanizi when he attended
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Speaker 2: La Kember mosque on Friday.
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Speaker 4: Respect the place you're in. Please, this is a this
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Speaker 4: is a mosque.
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Speaker 2: Min easy, What are you doing here? How dare you
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Speaker 2: come here? How there you come here?
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Speaker 4: Communication with them about the issues affected our community?
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Speaker 5: Horble?
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Speaker 6: You call he responsible?
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Speaker 2: That was a highly volatile situation and as you could see,
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Speaker 2: Albanezi had many security guards around him. He looked in
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Speaker 2: my mind terrified, at least anxious. He wasn't comfortable. Now
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Speaker 2: people think this is Australia, It's meant to be a
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Speaker 2: safe place for everyone. Certainly the Prime minister with all
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Speaker 2: that anger. Can you imagine a Jewish person like myself
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Speaker 2: walking safely in that area. Well, in the wake of
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Speaker 2: the rise of radical Islamic extremism, which has threatened the
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Speaker 2: safety of Jews and others, many feel that One Nation
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Speaker 2: has a stronger response. I mean, does anyone even know
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Speaker 2: what the liberals response to immigration is? It's not clear.
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Speaker 2: The third key reason behind the rise in One Nation
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Speaker 2: is dissatisfaction with the political establishment, distrust of authority, and
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Speaker 2: a sense that the current leadership has been taking advantage
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Speaker 2: of voters for too long. Hansen doesn't have political lines
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Speaker 2: or talking. Her style is authentic, She's not the most
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Speaker 2: articulate or polished politician, but in this political climate, that
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Speaker 2: can be a refreshing change for voters. We'll listen to
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Speaker 2: how Alban Easy, even Angus Taylor and Pauline sound.
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Speaker 6: We need to be vigilant.
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Speaker 7: There are some, including some in political life, want to
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Speaker 7: turn back the clock to an Australia that is no
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Speaker 7: longer who we are.
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Speaker 8: If we just stay focused on the things that matter
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Speaker 8: for Australians, restoring their standard of living, protecting Australian's way
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Speaker 8: of life, then we can regain their confidence.
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Speaker 9: Well, satanaskus, guess what, mate, I'm living? Use some landlines.
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Speaker 9: They're called one nation members of Parliament. I suggest don't
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Speaker 9: step on them because they will explode.
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Speaker 2: Alban Easy's non answer and waffle only heighten the appeal
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Speaker 2: of Hanson's everyday rehtoric. Pauline Hanson may have been in
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Speaker 2: politics for thirty years, but she doesn't sound like a politician.
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Speaker 2: There's also the fact that Hanson positions herself as well,
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Speaker 2: not quite a victim, but as someone who the political
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Speaker 2: elite try to silence, try to shut down.
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Speaker 9: Why do I have to be shut down because you
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Speaker 9: know I'm concerned about the future of this nation.
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Speaker 2: Why am I shut down?
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Speaker 9: Because I'm concerned. I don't want Australia to become like England,
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Speaker 9: and I'm concerned about and I will have my say,
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Speaker 9: and you might't shut me down over this or many
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Speaker 9: other Australians. I'm sick and tired you take me to
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Speaker 9: task over this.
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Speaker 2: This view that Hanson is silenced is reinforced by the
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Speaker 2: very regular pushback against her from politicians and the media class.
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Speaker 2: Colleen Hanson has been in politics more than double the
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Speaker 2: time that I have been, and I can't point to
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Speaker 2: a single damn or road or hospital that she has delivered.
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Speaker 9: Pauline Hanson is a divisive figure.
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Speaker 1: She's made a political care out of seeking to divide
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Speaker 1: Australians against each other.
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Speaker 5: What has Pauline Hanson contributed in terms of meaningful policy
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Speaker 5: in this country, In terms of economic policy, in terms
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Speaker 5: of social policy, The answer is nothing.
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Speaker 2: So all of these factors are contributing to a surge
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Speaker 2: in the One Nation vote. Yet the coalition's message today
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Speaker 2: is true, splitting the Conservative vote between One Nation and
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party will only entrench the Albanesi government in
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Speaker 2: power for even longer, even if Hanson is peeling off
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Speaker 2: some voters from labor, the overall rise of one nation
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Speaker 2: is ultimately a gift to Albanezi, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke,
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Speaker 2: and Penny Wong. Now, perhaps one idea to consider is
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Speaker 2: a governing coalition agreement. At this rate, it's the only
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Speaker 2: way the Liberal Party may ever walk the blue ministerial
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Speaker 2: carpet again, and it's the best chance of booting Albaneasi
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Speaker 2: from the lodge. All right, let's get the latest on
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Speaker 2: the war in Iran. Now, Donald Trump has given Iran
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Speaker 2: a forty eight hour ultimatum reopen the Strait of hor Moves,
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Speaker 2: or he'll obliterate their power infrastructure with devastating consequences. Now,
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Speaker 2: the straight matters to Trump enormously. As you know. By now,
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Speaker 2: around a fifth of the world's oil supply moves through
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Speaker 2: that narrow waterway, so its closure impacts on fuel prices,
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Speaker 2: global markets, the economy, and family budgets. There are now
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Speaker 2: fifteen hours left on this deadline. It expires at eleven
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Speaker 2: am Our time tomorrow, which is just before eight pm
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Speaker 2: Monday in Washington. Is showing no sign of backing down.
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Speaker 2: Tehran is threatening zero restraint if Trump follows through, and
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Speaker 2: Iran is vowing to hit energy and water infrastructure sites
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Speaker 2: and even US aligned banks across the Arab Gulf nations.
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Speaker 2: Iran's strategy appears to be working. Their goal is to
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Speaker 2: keep oil prices elevated, keep markets rattled, and inflict pain
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Speaker 2: on families around the world. The IIGC knows it can't
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Speaker 2: compete against the military might of America and Israel, but
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Speaker 2: if it squeezes global energy supply, it can pressure America,
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Speaker 2: perhaps enough to make Trump crumble. It'll certainly test the
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Speaker 2: President's resolve. But America's Ambassador to the United Nations, Mike Waltz,
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Speaker 2: said Iran's threat won't work.
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Speaker 10: The President is not messing around. He stands unlike his predecessors.
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Speaker 10: He stands by his red lines, and he's not going
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Speaker 10: to allow this genocidal regime to hold the world's energy
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Speaker 10: supplies or economy's hostage.
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Speaker 2: And he said Trump would start by blowing up one
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Speaker 2: of Iran's largest power plants. But Iran showed the terrifying
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Speaker 2: reach of its long range missiles when it targeted Diego Garcia,
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Speaker 2: a joint US UK military base in the Indian Ocean.
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Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessont is arguing that an initial escalation
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Speaker 2: might be the best way to de escalate the war.
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Speaker 2: Here's what he told NBCs Meet the Press.
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Speaker 11: I think the American people understand fifty days of temporary
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Speaker 11: elevated prices, prices will come off on the other side
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Speaker 11: for fifty years of not having an Iranian regime with
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Speaker 11: a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 2: Now we've spoken at length about the pressure President Trump
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Speaker 2: is under from the blockade in the Strait of Hormuz,
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Speaker 2: but this pressure is amplified because of high profile media
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Speaker 2: commentators and outlets that are claiming he's already lost the
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Speaker 2: war because of this oil blockage. In fact, many of
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Speaker 2: these commentators seem to want Trump the US in Israel too,
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Speaker 2: to lose against Iran. They're almost cheerleading for the Ayatolas,
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Speaker 2: despite the fact it's a terror regime responsible for repression
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Speaker 2: and mass bloodshed in its region and beyond. Longtime editor
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Speaker 2: in chief Chris Mitchell writes in The Australian Today that
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Speaker 2: it's far too early to claim the Iranian regime will
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Speaker 2: survive or to assume Homeez can't be reopened. Mitchell rights.
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Speaker 2: By last week, foreign policy conservatives were joining US Democrats
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Speaker 2: and the left wing US media establishment to declare Trump
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Speaker 2: had lost all by day eighteen, and Mitchell points out
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Speaker 2: that whatever Western journalists say, the media and political leadership
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Speaker 2: of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States are urging Trump
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Speaker 2: to finish the job. In Iran, there's also this deepening
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Speaker 2: mystery of Iran Supreme Leader Moshtaba Khamenei. He was hit
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Speaker 2: in the strikes that killed his father, but the extent
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Speaker 2: of his injuries is unclear. Some reports suggest he's in
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Speaker 2: a coma. The intelligence community's assessment as of last week
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Speaker 2: is that he is severely injured. Tulsi Gabbard confirmed this
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Speaker 2: at a hearing.
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Speaker 12: To be clear on the Mojtaba, the son who has
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Speaker 12: been named to replace him, it is unclear of his
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Speaker 12: status or his involvement. He was injured very severely through
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Speaker 12: one of the Israeli strikes, and so the decision making
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Speaker 12: is unclear about what happening in the Iranian leadership's unclear.
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Speaker 2: The fact is the world hasn't seen or heard from Mushtava,
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Speaker 2: not a word, even after he was elected Supreme leader,
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Speaker 2: and there are some bizarre AI clips and voiceovers during
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Speaker 2: the rounds the Wall Street Journals analyze them, and it
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Speaker 2: reports that the pictures that have been released often show
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Speaker 2: Kamina in clearly fictional scenes for propaganda purposes. Many photos
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Speaker 2: of him appear to have been generated or modified by
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, according to analysis by the Wall Street Journal
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Speaker 2: and scholars of Iran's visual imagery. But overall, this is
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Speaker 2: the US in Israeli strategy. Decapitate the Iranian leadership, destroy
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Speaker 2: its military sites, demolish its ballistic, missile and nuclear abilities,
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Speaker 2: and then stop Iran's ability to fund proxies which spread
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Speaker 2: terror globally. Right now, reopening the straight up horror moves
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Speaker 2: is the most urgent obstacle the needs to be overcome
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Speaker 2: for those objectives to be achieved. Now, I want to
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Speaker 2: show you a disturbing cartoon published by the Australian Financial Review,
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Speaker 2: created by cartoonist David Rowe. You have to ever look
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Speaker 2: it closely at the words on the screen you can
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Speaker 2: see it says Tora Toro, torah and Oi vay. This
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Speaker 2: cartoon doesn't just criticize Donald Trump or Israel. It plays
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Speaker 2: into some of the oldest and ugliest anti Semitic tropes
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Speaker 2: there are as Alex Riftrin writes on Twitter on x
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Speaker 2: Trump's critics have always cast him as wholly self center, isolationist,
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Speaker 2: and in contempt of traditional allies, until now, suddenly he
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Speaker 2: has the blood soaked Jew steering him, coercing him to
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Speaker 2: do his bidding, chanting Torah as the Jew leads him
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Speaker 2: to disaster because the Jews are our misfortune or they
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Speaker 2: the Yiddish phrase of angst not Hebrew, the official language
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Speaker 2: of Israel, but Yiddish, the language of exiled European Jews,
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Speaker 2: which mockingly adorns a million neo Nazi tweets and cartoons.
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Speaker 2: This message isn't subtle. It leans into the poisonous idea
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Speaker 2: that Jews, not the Israeli government, but Jews, are secretly
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Speaker 2: controlling world leaders, even the president, and dragging Trump into war.
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Speaker 2: The trope has existed for centuries. It's been used to
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Speaker 2: demonize Jews, to isolate and to justify hatred and violence
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Speaker 2: against Jews. And in the current climate, with the Jewish
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Speaker 2: community already living under heightened security and genuine fear of
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Speaker 2: another attack, that matters. And Yet, when I spoke to
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Speaker 2: the Australian Financial Reviews editor in chief James Chessil this
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Speaker 2: afternoon and asked him about the cartoon, he defended it.
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Speaker 2: This is what he said on the record. He said,
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Speaker 2: I'm supportive of the cartoon. To me, it's incomprehensible how
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Speaker 2: anyone could look at imagery like this and be comfortable
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Speaker 2: waving it through and publishing it. Because either the Financial
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Speaker 2: Review that's meant to be a serious financial newspaper read
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Speaker 2: by business executives, either the paper does not understand the
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Speaker 2: impact that this kind of message has on the Australian
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Speaker 2: Jewish community at a time a very real danger, or
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Speaker 2: the paper simply doesn't care about our safety. Joining me
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Speaker 2: now to discuss this and more is former Speaker of
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Speaker 2: the House Broman Bishop and Sky News host Steve Price. Broman,
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Speaker 2: what do you think about this cartoon?
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Speaker 13: Well, without will not reflect on the cartoonists nor the publisher,
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Speaker 13: but I will reflect on the cartoon. Hitler would have
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Speaker 13: approved of it. It is the most offensive cartoon I've
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Speaker 13: seen in a long long time. And I just think
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Speaker 13: that in this country of ours, where we have said
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Speaker 13: and welcomed people who were the survivors of the Holocaust
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Speaker 13: to come and live in Australia as good Australians, and
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Speaker 13: they have been precisely that and contributed enormously. To have
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Speaker 13: that sort of cartoon in people's faces is such an insult.
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Speaker 13: It is so wrong, and it really does make me
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Speaker 13: feel that what is happening to our society that we've
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Speaker 13: been reduced to this level.
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Speaker 2: We're three months on from Bondai Steve and messages directed
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Speaker 2: towards the Jewish community in Australia. Matter.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm very surprised that got published. I mean, I've
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Speaker 1: worked in senior editorial positions on newspapers and that would
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Speaker 1: have sent alarm bells ringing. I would have thought in
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Speaker 1: the Financial Review, among the editorial staff, there would have
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Speaker 1: been an editorial meeting to look at that cartoon and
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Speaker 1: they would have said to themselves, Okay, we're going to
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Speaker 1: go ahead and publish it. Chessel is a very respected
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Speaker 1: senior editor. I see what he said to you today.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't put it any better than you have. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've been through since October seven, two years of a
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Speaker 1: rise of anti Semitism in our country, as Bromwin just mentioned,
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Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, we had Bondi, the worst terrorist
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Speaker 1: attack on Australian soil. Ever, I think the editorial judgment
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Speaker 1: there is very lacking.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. All right, let's move on to the
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Speaker 2: One Nation result. Extraordinary result Bromwin in South Australia. I
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Speaker 2: mean the primary was higher than the Liberal Party. That
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Speaker 2: Adelaide advertiser tonight is reporting that One Nation could pick
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Speaker 2: up as many as three Lower House seats. The counting
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Speaker 2: is still ongoing. Well, I think it's time.
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Speaker 13: I've been saying for a long long time now that
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Speaker 13: there has to be an accommodation between One Nation and
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Speaker 13: the coalition because if you look at the number of
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Speaker 13: people who want to vote for the center right, it
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Speaker 13: is greater than the number of people who want to
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Speaker 13: vote for the left. That is a good point, and
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Speaker 13: therefore there has to be an accommodation. When I see
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Speaker 13: grown men start to attack Pauline Hansen, I think how
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Speaker 13: pathetic it looks for men to attack a woman. She
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Speaker 13: has been there through more hill than you or I
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Speaker 13: will ever know, in the sense of being sent to
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Speaker 13: jail wrongfully and survived. And I just think that what
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Speaker 13: has happened is that Pauline Hanson hasn't changed, but the
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Speaker 13: politics of today are matching what she has been saying
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Speaker 13: for a long long time. And when she says that
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Speaker 13: people want their country back. The Prime Minisy comes back
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Speaker 13: and say, oh, you can't turn back the clock.
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Speaker 2: That's not what.
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Speaker 13: We're talking about. There is a need to have the
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Speaker 13: question of mass immigration addressed and in my words, it
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Speaker 13: needs to have a two year freeze.
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Speaker 2: Canada did it. It worked.
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Speaker 13: It's not just housing. It's not just lack of accommodation
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Speaker 13: in schools. It's not just lack of accommodation in hospitals,
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Speaker 13: it's not just lack of accommodation in aged care. It
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Speaker 13: is that we are now seeing people starting to lose
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Speaker 13: their jobs in the private sector and predicting AI says
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Speaker 13: twenty percent of jobs. And yet we get this mantra back.
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Speaker 13: We've got to have immigration because we haven't got enough jobs.
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Speaker 13: We've got a whole lot of people in Australia who
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Speaker 13: are Australians who are going to be needing jobs, and
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Speaker 13: we should be thinking about our people and building our
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Speaker 13: society to match our needs and our requirements for our
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Speaker 13: Australians living here now and using all our resources to
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Speaker 13: do it.
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Speaker 2: Steve, this key issue is really behind Polly en Hansen's
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Speaker 2: surgeon support and surgeon support I mean to have a
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Speaker 2: higher primary than the Liberal Party is saying that voters
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Speaker 2: are really resonating with her message, and we can't scoff
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Speaker 2: at that, we can't be patronizing about it. This is
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Speaker 2: the message that voters want.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think since up until Saturday, people were saying, okay,
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Speaker 1: One Nation surging in the polls. But will that popularity
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Speaker 1: to upholster translate into the fact that they'll win seats. Well,
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Speaker 1: they clearly have now, I mean Corey Bernardi in the
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Speaker 1: Upper House, at least two in the Lower House. I
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Speaker 1: was in Adelaide last week. I went to a polling
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Speaker 1: booth in the seat of bright which is down near
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Speaker 1: the beach at Brighton, and I took the Liberal Party
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Speaker 1: how to Vote card and in an eight cornered contest,
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Speaker 1: so eight candidates, the Liberal Party preferenced One Nation at
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Speaker 1: number five. So to Bromin's point, if they ever want
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Speaker 1: to get back into government, either in a state sense
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Speaker 1: or in a federal sense, they've got to come to
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Speaker 1: some sort of arrangement with One Nation. One Nation's poll enhance.
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Speaker 1: And herself said tonight on Sky that she's willing and
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Speaker 1: open to talk to them. I mean, we've now got
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Speaker 1: We're five weeks away from a by election in Victoria
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Speaker 1: in the seed and a pan. What's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: There will one Nation win that seat potentially, and then
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Speaker 1: of course in November you've got a state election in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: And now Victoria is a very different state to South Australia.
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Speaker 1: South Australia, seventy percent of the people live in Adelaide.
24:23
Speaker 1: In Victoria, you've got large regional cities that are quite
24:27
Speaker 1: hot angry about labor in Victoria, but they're not never
24:31
Speaker 1: going to support the Liberal Party because they just fight
24:33
Speaker 1: each other. You wait and see what the One Nation
24:36
Speaker 1: result is in Victoria. It'll make South Australia look like
24:39
Speaker 1: a picnic.
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Speaker 2: When you say some sort of accommodation, what do you
24:43
Speaker 2: mean by that, Bromin.
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Speaker 13: I mean they've got to come to an arrangement where
24:47
Speaker 13: they will exchange preferences. They don't even have to express
24:51
Speaker 13: it that way. You just say teals Labor Greens last,
24:56
Speaker 13: and there has to be an agreement not to attack
25:00
Speaker 13: each other. Now, for a long time, in New South Wales,
25:04
Speaker 13: for instance, there was always great enmity in certain parts
25:07
Speaker 13: between the Liberal Party and the National Party. It had
25:10
Speaker 13: to reach an accommodation to make that coalition work. It
25:14
Speaker 13: doesn't have to be part of one nation, doesn't have
25:16
Speaker 13: to be part of a coalition in the sense that
25:18
Speaker 13: the Nationals formed where the Liberals are, but there needs
25:21
Speaker 13: to be an arrangement whereby there is a sense that
25:26
Speaker 13: the center right are traveling in the same direction in
25:30
Speaker 13: the interests of the Australian people and not see.
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Speaker 2: Abel discussions should happen a bit a governing coalition, because
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Speaker 2: I mean it happens in other parts of the world
25:41
Speaker 2: where certain people wouldn't be in power unless they had
25:45
Speaker 2: an arrangement with other political parties. So and at this point,
25:48
Speaker 2: like I said at the start of the show, the
25:51
Speaker 2: Liberals aren't getting back into power.
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Speaker 13: It happens all over the world where you have coalitions
25:56
Speaker 13: at various parties an example, New Zealand example. You can
26:02
Speaker 13: see it all over the world. But here we have
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Speaker 13: compulsory preferential voting, which is made of a distinct difference
26:10
Speaker 13: to the way things work out. But there isn't a
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Speaker 13: need there is a need now to say that one
26:16
Speaker 13: nation is part of the center right. It is part
26:19
Speaker 13: of the legitimate way of changing government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I've got to go, but I'm going
26:23
Speaker 2: to continue this discussion about One Nation with my next guest,
26:26
Speaker 2: Steve Price Bromen Bishop love having you both. Are's always
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Speaker 2: on a Monday, all right. Well, the man behind the
26:32
Speaker 2: success of the essay result, One Nation's South Australian State President,
26:37
Speaker 2: Carlos Quarember, joins me live now. Carlos, look, you're also
26:42
Speaker 2: joining Corey Bernardi in the Senate, so congratulations on your
26:45
Speaker 2: personal win. Now, the TiSER is reporting that One Nation
26:51
Speaker 2: might have three Lower House seats. Can you give us
26:54
Speaker 2: the latest on the count, good Eving Sherry.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's looking good. We're sort of looking at three,
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Speaker 4: maybe four or five, I'm not sure. Whatever it is,
27:06
Speaker 4: we will make sure that we will be the strongest
27:08
Speaker 4: voices of position in South Australia that the States ever had.
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Speaker 2: But at the moment, where does One Nation stand in
27:16
Speaker 2: terms of the number of Lower House seats and the
27:19
Speaker 2: Senate spots.
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Speaker 4: Well, obviously, until the Electoral Commission called the results, it's
27:25
Speaker 4: all speculation. It's looking good for a few seats, We're
27:29
Speaker 4: just not sure yet. We're just going to hold on.
27:31
Speaker 2: But you have certainly got your Senate position behind Corey Benardi.
27:37
Speaker 4: It's looking like that, but once again I have to
27:39
Speaker 4: wait till the Electric Commission call the results. Nonetheless, I
27:42
Speaker 4: was back on the tools today and had to fill
27:45
Speaker 4: up petrol and nearly had a heart attack.
27:48
Speaker 2: Well how much was it when you filled.
27:49
Speaker 4: Up two hundred and twenty dollars for a tank of diesel?
27:53
Speaker 2: Wow? So, in terms of the fuel supply issue, what
27:58
Speaker 2: do you think Chris Bonone be doing? Should there be rations,
28:02
Speaker 2: what do you think the solution is at the moment.
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Speaker 4: I can't believe that there's no discussion of increasing refineries.
28:10
Speaker 4: There's no discussion potentially of rationing, there's no discussion of
28:14
Speaker 4: self reliance. And why are we still paying the fuel excise?
28:17
Speaker 4: I'd hate to think how much extra tax the government
28:20
Speaker 4: is making of the misery of people in the country.
28:23
Speaker 4: It's just astounding. They're just completely tone death.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just back to the seats. By the way, it
28:30
Speaker 2: is correct, isn't it that if you do pick up
28:33
Speaker 2: a lower House seat and you're looking at up to three,
28:36
Speaker 2: I mean you say up to five, but perhaps three.
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Speaker 2: No third party has claimed a Lower House seat in
28:43
Speaker 2: ninety years, is that right?
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that statistic, but it'll be the
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Speaker 4: first time in South Australian history. So yeah, we're really happy.
28:52
Speaker 4: But we're just ready to work and I'm ready to
28:54
Speaker 4: campaign and do what we need to do for the
28:56
Speaker 4: people of South Australia. I believe I'll be going over
28:59
Speaker 4: to Victoria to help about the Victorians as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well so in terms of going over to help
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Speaker 2: other states, I mean, you did have some problems in
29:07
Speaker 2: South Australia with candidates. How are you going to improve
29:10
Speaker 2: the voting process?
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Speaker 4: Look, it's just something that happens as a minor party.
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Speaker 4: We did everything we possibly could. We're going to increase
29:18
Speaker 4: our processes and we're also going to be doing a
29:20
Speaker 4: review of what happened. But once again, you know, I
29:24
Speaker 4: think we've done a fantastic job to get up all
29:26
Speaker 4: the candidates and we ran this campaign on the smell
29:30
Speaker 4: of a selly rag. The thing that really needs to
29:33
Speaker 4: be asked here is these ellectual laws that the Labor
29:36
Speaker 4: and the Liberal Party voted in. It makes it very
29:40
Speaker 4: hard for minor parties or any other party really to
29:42
Speaker 4: have a fair crack and I don't think that's very democratic.
29:47
Speaker 2: When you were speaking to voters during the campaign, do
29:51
Speaker 2: you agree with what we've been saying tonight that immigration
29:53
Speaker 2: is the key issue behind the rise of support for
29:56
Speaker 2: one nation or were the other issues that people spoke
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Speaker 2: to you about.
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Speaker 4: I think it was a myriad of things, immigration, the
30:05
Speaker 4: cost of living. The real message that I got from
30:08
Speaker 4: a lot of voters was they just were not being
30:10
Speaker 4: listened to, and instead of just accepting that these were
30:14
Speaker 4: the only two choices, they decided that no, there is
30:16
Speaker 4: another choice, and we're going to go with that choice,
30:19
Speaker 4: and we're going to back that party in to make
30:21
Speaker 4: a difference. And that's what they did, and I think
30:23
Speaker 4: the results speak for themselves, and I think this is
30:26
Speaker 4: going to continue across the country.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Carlos Coromba, appreciate your time. Now Still to
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Speaker 2: come Clueless, Chris Bolm recommends Australians work from home as
30:37
Speaker 2: the fuel crisis deepens. I'll talk about that after the
30:40
Speaker 2: break with Ray Hadley. Plus we'll go live to Israel
30:42
Speaker 2: for an exclusive with Deputy Foreign Affairs ministers around Hush School.
30:46
Speaker 2: As Trump's deadline before blowing up Around's energy sites looms
30:54
Speaker 2: welcome back when new Soath was premier, Chris min says
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Speaker 2: the government is contemplating emergency measures as the fuel crisis escalates.
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Speaker 7: We will of course take emergency measures if required, but
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Speaker 7: those measures themselves have an impact on the economy and
31:13
Speaker 7: businesses in New South Wales and we want to make
31:15
Speaker 7: sure we only do it when we absolutely have to.
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Speaker 2: And he confirmed that over one hundred service stations across
31:24
Speaker 2: the state have run out of diesel and that's bringing
31:26
Speaker 2: our radio legend Gray Hadley. Hello, Sharry, great to see you.
31:31
Speaker 4: Not a good week for us?
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Speaker 14: Is it really?
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Speaker 5: Petrol? Diesel?
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Speaker 14: Chris Bowen stuffing everything up? And they appoint someone to
31:38
Speaker 14: investigate the fuel crisis, but they don't involve him. That's
31:41
Speaker 14: probably the smartest thing Anthony albanize he's done in a
31:44
Speaker 14: long long time, not involving him, because he says, hopeless,
31:48
Speaker 14: he's had more positions than an Olympic gymnast. There was
31:52
Speaker 14: a fuel crisis, there wasn't a fuel crisis. There wasn't
31:54
Speaker 14: a fuel crisis. There was now work from home. It
31:58
Speaker 14: goes on and on and on from this blog. It's
32:01
Speaker 14: just him. I mean, to a certain extent, I get
32:04
Speaker 14: bored bagging him. It's almost a national sport for it's
32:07
Speaker 14: too easy. How he's still there is just beyond me in.
32:10
Speaker 2: Such an important job as well. You just mentioned that
32:12
Speaker 2: he said a working from home. As a response, let's
32:16
Speaker 2: have a look at what Chris Bowen said on that.
32:20
Speaker 1: Would you urge businesses, for example, to be more flexible
32:23
Speaker 1: on work from home, let people stay home.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a sensible thing to do in
32:27
Speaker 2: any environment. Really.
32:29
Speaker 1: You know, work from home has become an important part
32:31
Speaker 1: of it.
32:31
Speaker 5: But in this Australian oil crisis, my Australian working life,
32:34
Speaker 5: and again I think some people would already be doing that.
32:37
Speaker 2: And Ray there is talk that this could become similar
32:40
Speaker 2: to a COVID pandemic scenario because for those who can't afford,
32:46
Speaker 2: who don't have to go out for their jobs just
32:48
Speaker 2: because the supply issues and the price, Well, I wish.
32:52
Speaker 14: He'd work from home. I wish he'd just stay home
32:55
Speaker 14: and not take part in the parliamentary process. I mean,
32:58
Speaker 14: we're a long way from that.
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Speaker 5: Chris has said, look.
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Speaker 14: If we need to, we will introduce emergency measures, but
33:03
Speaker 14: he said we're not there yet. The prime of this
33:05
Speaker 14: is doing his best to get fuel from I guess
33:09
Speaker 14: parts of Asia, the United States and Canada. Whether that'll
33:11
Speaker 14: happen or not. But at the end of the day,
33:15
Speaker 14: I think our expectations for Chris Bale have to be
33:18
Speaker 14: lowered because, as I've said many times, if brains were dynamite,
33:22
Speaker 14: he wouldn't blow his ears off. And he's just out
33:25
Speaker 14: of his depth, completely out of his depth. I mean
33:28
Speaker 14: David Spears tossed that up and said, what do you
33:29
Speaker 14: think not expecting say, oh, yes, well, those situations will
33:33
Speaker 14: arise and work from home I mean working from home
33:36
Speaker 14: was something I guess that had to be done during
33:38
Speaker 14: a pandemic. We're not at a pandemic yet and we've
33:42
Speaker 14: still got fuel despite as you say, many many service
33:44
Speaker 14: stations in New South Wales closing down. I was in
33:47
Speaker 14: Queensland on the weekend. Many of the service stations I
33:50
Speaker 14: saw were open, not many were closed. We haven't got
33:53
Speaker 14: the crisis yet, but maybe we will, depending on what
33:55
Speaker 14: happens with the threat from Donald Trump and the response
33:59
Speaker 14: from the Iranians.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't look like the Iranians are cowering and deciding
34:04
Speaker 2: to open up the straight up on movies. I'm going
34:05
Speaker 2: to speak to Sharon Haskors, she's standing by next about
34:09
Speaker 2: the latest on that. But you know, the fuel supply issue,
34:14
Speaker 2: especially for people whose cars run on diesel, is acute.
34:18
Speaker 4: I'm one of them. It's funny.
34:21
Speaker 14: I was talking to people today about the fact that
34:22
Speaker 14: they're planning a trip to Queensland from Sydney and said,
34:26
Speaker 14: and that's in April that we go, you know, because
34:29
Speaker 14: we can't get from Sydney to the Gold Coast on
34:32
Speaker 14: one tank. Can we get a Colonga Look or keemc
34:36
Speaker 14: or Coffs Harbor and Phillip on the way. And that's
34:38
Speaker 14: a question that has to be answered. You know, there's
34:40
Speaker 14: got to be some sort of indication from the government
34:42
Speaker 14: that if you wish to travel I'm talking about travel
34:45
Speaker 14: for holidays and the like, you can still get to somewhere.
34:48
Speaker 14: As opposed to what's going to happen to the transport links.
34:50
Speaker 14: You've only got to be on the M one either
34:52
Speaker 14: south or north out of Sydney. And there are hundreds
34:54
Speaker 14: and hundreds of B doubles, you know, and are they
34:58
Speaker 14: going to be able to continue to work with diesel.
35:00
Speaker 14: There's no thought of them working from home. It's a
35:02
Speaker 14: bit there to drive a B double in the lounge room.
35:05
Speaker 14: So you know, there is a problem there about supply
35:08
Speaker 14: change and all the rest of it, and it will.
35:09
Speaker 2: Impact the economy with the Easter school holidays. As you say,
35:12
Speaker 2: no question, all right, I want to return to the
35:14
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's visit to the La Camber Mosque on Friday.
35:18
Speaker 2: I will play another Actually we might leave it. I
35:22
Speaker 2: think everyone's seen all those clips already. I mean, he
35:25
Speaker 2: looked uncomfortable, he looked scared. It was pretty volatile.
35:30
Speaker 14: Look a week and a half ago he came from
35:32
Speaker 14: a grand stand to get onto the field to celebrate
35:35
Speaker 14: a try by Alex Johnston, a record breaking try. His
35:39
Speaker 14: security men and women would have been having kittens about
35:42
Speaker 14: him being in that volatile, exciting period among all these people.
35:48
Speaker 14: But the good thing about Australia is prime ministers and
35:50
Speaker 14: premiers can get down there with people without any threat
35:55
Speaker 14: to their well being, and that can't happen in many
35:57
Speaker 14: other parts of the world. But to go to a
36:00
Speaker 14: by invitation and to be treated by people associated with
36:04
Speaker 14: his Berteria, a terrorist organization, and the memory was I've
36:08
Speaker 14: never seen the like of it, and I'm convinced Albaniz
36:11
Speaker 14: he would have been scared, and rightfully so, the threats
36:14
Speaker 14: being made towards him and Tony Burke Burke would have
36:16
Speaker 14: arrived think, ah, well they vaded for me last federal
36:19
Speaker 14: election at Muslim vote.
36:21
Speaker 4: They love me.
36:21
Speaker 14: They don't love you at all. The radicals are doing
36:25
Speaker 14: more damage than you could possibly imagine to the Muslim
36:28
Speaker 14: people who don't want any track with this. And for
36:32
Speaker 14: him to come out of there, the Prime Minister and
36:33
Speaker 14: say very welcoming, Well.
36:36
Speaker 2: His he didn't fall off the stage.
36:40
Speaker 14: Job, well he must. We don't watch Sky News or
36:43
Speaker 14: watch all the other news services and watch the video.
36:46
Speaker 14: It doesn't lie. It was really frightening. Twenty personnel. Security
36:50
Speaker 14: personnel got him out the back door, how I mean?
36:53
Speaker 14: And you know, yes, he got a football matches, you
36:55
Speaker 14: had a sport and the Prime Minister gets people boo.
36:58
Speaker 4: It's yes.
36:59
Speaker 14: But theviolence, the threat of violence that was evident there,
37:03
Speaker 14: it's not part of who we are. And I noticed
37:06
Speaker 14: a headline on Sky about social cohesion. I think you
37:08
Speaker 14: spoke about it. This is really really threatening social cohesion.
37:12
Speaker 14: It really is. And that's why one nation to a
37:16
Speaker 14: certain extent is prospering because people are scared about the
37:20
Speaker 14: alternative and the Prime Minister. Even before December and the
37:24
Speaker 14: attack on the Jewish community at BONDI hasn't been strong enough.
37:28
Speaker 14: And the first Labor prime minister or liberal prime minister
37:31
Speaker 14: to recognize the state of Palestine didn't do him much
37:34
Speaker 14: good in the Mosque well.
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Speaker 2: Exactly as you point out, he would have expected, or
37:38
Speaker 2: had every right to expect the warmest welcome, and he did.
37:42
Speaker 2: And it's shocking to see, horrifying.
37:44
Speaker 4: It is horrifying.
37:45
Speaker 14: And whether I like him or don't like him, you know,
37:48
Speaker 14: as a prime minister, I think I think he's a
37:49
Speaker 14: decent person, but I don't like him. As a prime minister,
37:52
Speaker 14: I think he's hopeless. But even thoughing for that, our
37:55
Speaker 14: prime minister should not be subjected to being fearful of
37:58
Speaker 14: going anywhere, being a Catholic church at Temple A, Moscow,
38:02
Speaker 14: anywhere else.
38:02
Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, Ray, great to have thank you as
38:05
Speaker 2: always on a Monday, Thank you so much. So to
38:08
Speaker 2: come the will across live to Israel as the clock
38:10
Speaker 2: is ticking on Trump's deadline and his talks with Kirstarmer
38:14
Speaker 2: on the Strait of Hormos, that's next, well, that's cross
38:22
Speaker 2: live to Israel now and joining me his Deputy Foreign
38:24
Speaker 2: Affairs Minister Sharen Haskell. Charen, great to see you as
38:27
Speaker 2: always were sharing.
38:29
Speaker 13: Good to see you too.
38:30
Speaker 2: President Trump has issued a forty eight hour ultimatum to
38:33
Speaker 2: Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz or America would
38:37
Speaker 2: destroy power sites. This deadline expires around thirteen hours from now.
38:43
Speaker 2: What will happen if Iran doesn't open Hormos?
38:49
Speaker 6: Well, as President Trump said, everything is on the table,
38:52
Speaker 6: and he's made his argument.
38:54
Speaker 4: Very very clear.
38:55
Speaker 6: It is the decision of the leftovers of the Iranian regime.
39:01
Speaker 2: Can you tell us which energy sites will be targeted?
39:05
Speaker 6: Look, I can't say specifically, and I won't even try
39:09
Speaker 6: to predict a President Trump's decision. At the end of
39:12
Speaker 6: the day, this is an American decision and the president
39:15
Speaker 6: personal decision as well. But we will stand by and
39:19
Speaker 6: back him in any decision that he will make in
39:21
Speaker 6: that regards.
39:22
Speaker 2: Have you seen any sign that Iran might give in
39:27
Speaker 2: and is preparing to allow ships to pass the Strait
39:30
Speaker 2: of Hormuz? Look, I think so.
39:32
Speaker 6: There were quite a few ships that were crossing just yesterday.
39:36
Speaker 6: From what we've seen right now, I think there were
39:40
Speaker 6: around forty of them of them that actually crossed, so
39:44
Speaker 6: I think the indication might be even positive. We also
39:47
Speaker 6: see quite a few cracks a the Iranian Iatola regime
39:51
Speaker 6: as well, specifically last week and especially during the last
39:55
Speaker 6: two days as well.
39:57
Speaker 2: Just yesterday, we've.
39:58
Speaker 6: Eliminated three high commanders in the besiege in Tahran as well,
40:05
Speaker 6: So we see those cracks happening. And I think that,
40:09
Speaker 6: you know, President Trump has shown that, you know, he's
40:14
Speaker 6: not a president that speaks, He's a president that acts.
40:18
Speaker 6: And I think the deterrence that he's bringing back against
40:22
Speaker 6: you know, fanatical regimes like the Iranian ones or other
40:26
Speaker 6: ones who might have in mind, the attempts, you know,
40:30
Speaker 6: to try and invade, attack other countries or anything like that,
40:34
Speaker 6: that kind of deterrence is very, very important for stability,
40:39
Speaker 6: especially in the region of the Middle East.
40:42
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that reported anywhere that forty ships have
40:46
Speaker 2: been able to pass, so that is a really good
40:48
Speaker 2: sign if Iran is going to allow international shipping through
40:52
Speaker 2: the strait. I just wondered if there was any concern
40:56
Speaker 2: in the Israeli government about Trump's result, given the impact
41:02
Speaker 2: on energy supply, on fuel prices, and on the global economy.
41:08
Speaker 6: Oh, of course we're concerned about it.
41:10
Speaker 2: I mean, but don't forget a Trumps resolve.
41:14
Speaker 6: No, I mean, I'm sorry, but I don't understand the
41:17
Speaker 6: word resolve. I mean, I know that Trump is about.
41:19
Speaker 2: His commitment to seeing through the war, about not quitting
41:23
Speaker 2: too soon.
41:25
Speaker 6: Okay, So in regards to that, look, I think that
41:29
Speaker 6: Trump's has also said, regardless of this challenges that we
41:35
Speaker 6: do have with the energy and everything, which has been
41:40
Speaker 6: a challenge, Harry, also for the last or more than
41:43
Speaker 6: forty years, because the Iran every now and then has
41:47
Speaker 6: been threatening and also attacking throughout the years. Look, I
41:51
Speaker 6: think that President Trump is very committed to that. I mean,
41:55
Speaker 6: they have been trying to reach him, and he said,
41:59
Speaker 6: there's no one agociation. Now there is one solution that
42:02
Speaker 6: needs to happen. And the solution is, you know, the
42:06
Speaker 6: surrender of this fanatical regime, the fact that he will
42:10
Speaker 6: not be able not to threaten, you know, and not
42:13
Speaker 6: to act, not against America, not against Israel, not against
42:17
Speaker 6: the entire world.
42:19
Speaker 2: Are you losing hope of the possibility that there might
42:22
Speaker 2: be a regime change.
42:25
Speaker 6: I don't think so. On a contrary, I told you
42:28
Speaker 6: just before, we see cracks within the regime, We see
42:31
Speaker 6: people who are surrendering, you know. Prime Minister NATANIAO reiterated,
42:37
Speaker 6: they will come the time where the Iranian people will
42:39
Speaker 6: need to step out in order to liberate themselves. And
42:43
Speaker 6: what we're doing now is taking out the capabilities and
42:48
Speaker 6: the tools of serious suppression of torture of the commands
42:53
Speaker 6: who have ordered those horrendous, horrendous execution of children and teenagers.
43:00
Speaker 2: How long do you think the world will go on for?
43:04
Speaker 6: Look, it's very difficult to say, and I won't try
43:06
Speaker 6: and put my fingers on the exact amount of time
43:10
Speaker 6: we calculated by the targets, you know, the goals that
43:13
Speaker 6: we've set in the beginning of the operation, and that
43:17
Speaker 6: means the ballistic missile program entirely, and there's still have
43:21
Speaker 6: quite a few targets. You know, the people who were
43:25
Speaker 6: in charge of the strategy, who were pushing the annihilation
43:31
Speaker 6: plan of Israel, of America, of Western civilization, the people
43:37
Speaker 6: who created the tools, you know, the science behind creating
43:42
Speaker 6: those tools of mass destruction, of the nuclear program, of
43:45
Speaker 6: the ballistic missile program with such a huge range in
43:50
Speaker 6: capacity as well. And it's not over yet.
43:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, just on around's ability to steal attack Israel.
43:59
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw that terrible missile attack in de
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Speaker 2: Minor on the wakend, one hundred and eighty people injured.
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Speaker 2: What happened? How did the Iranian missiles get through the
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Speaker 2: defense system?
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Speaker 6: Sorry, you mean the events in Naraden in Demona.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, justpetically in Demona where one hundred and eighty were injured.
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Speaker 6: We have incredible system who have been defending us for
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Speaker 6: the last almost four weeks now, okay, against hundreds and
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Speaker 6: hundreds of missiles, drones, UAVs, you know, very very dangerous, uh,
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Speaker 6: you know, attacks on our population. And it's important to
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Speaker 6: understand they're not targeting military facility. They are targeting civilian
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Speaker 6: population with cluster bombs who their goal is to create
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Speaker 6: as much destruction as possible. And so, you know, nothing
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Speaker 6: is one hundred percent. We intercept it in space, we
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Speaker 6: intercept close by. We have four different mechanism of interception,
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Speaker 6: but there's not one hundred percent success in that manner,
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Speaker 6: especially when they coordinate a lot of their attacks with Risbala,
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Speaker 6: the Iranian army that is set in Lebanon. When they
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Speaker 6: do that together, it makes our work in defending the
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Speaker 6: population and civilians even harder.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Scharen, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. All right, we'll
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Speaker 2: be back in a moment. Stay tuned, Welcome back. Over
45:37
Speaker 2: the weekend, both Donald Trump and UK Prime Minister Kirstama
45:41
Speaker 2: spoke and they agreed the Straight of Homus must be reopened.
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Speaker 2: For more on this relationship, Skynese contributed. Koshagada joins me, now, Kosher,
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Speaker 2: this has been incredibly rocky over the past few weeks.
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Speaker 2: Was this a step to getting the relationship back on track?
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Speaker 15: It seems so, and that in terms of the never
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Speaker 15: ending news cycle around this, I think tomorrow will be
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Speaker 15: another day yet again. It was definitely a step in
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Speaker 15: the right direction, but as we know, it was sort
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Speaker 15: of stating the obvious that they had a constructive phone
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Speaker 15: call quote unquote and agreed that the Strait of Hormuz
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Speaker 15: is very vital for the global energy markets, which is,
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Speaker 15: you know, we know that twenty percent of global oil
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Speaker 15: flows through that part of the world. But there have
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Speaker 15: been no concrete agreements on military operations, joint operations, or
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Speaker 15: the UK providing any military combat at this time. And
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Speaker 15: so I think Trump's going to do his carrot and
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Speaker 15: stick thing try and get the allies to commit to
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Speaker 15: supporting this. But as of now, there's no reporting that
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Speaker 15: that has happened in a concrete fashion.
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Speaker 2: Do you get the sense that he is failing under
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Speaker 2: pressure over this?
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Speaker 15: I think so, because you know, as we've been talking
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Speaker 15: about since this broke out, there is a lot of
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Speaker 15: pressure on him. Domestically. This remains very, very controversial. He's
46:55
Speaker 15: got people in his corner, certainly in the Republican wing,
46:58
Speaker 15: but independent are very much against this. Democrats, of course are,
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Speaker 15: and about twenty percent of the Republican coalition, the broader
47:05
Speaker 15: coalition is very vehemently opposed to this. The more drags on,
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Speaker 15: so he knows that midterms around the corner, and he's
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Speaker 15: very aware of that, and it's also diverting his energy
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Speaker 15: and focus away from domestic issues, so that's a problem. Also,
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Speaker 15: he always reminds everybody that the US actually doesn't need
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Speaker 15: the oil coming out of Iran and through the Strait
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Speaker 15: that much given its own energy footprint, so this is
47:26
Speaker 15: really in Europe's interest. They of course also know that
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Speaker 15: this war is quite controversial and they don't want to
47:31
Speaker 15: get dragged into it. And I think the clock is
47:34
Speaker 15: ticking his global energy markets get more shocked. That does
47:38
Speaker 15: lay at the feet of Trump, and he's balancing that
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Speaker 15: with his domestic constituents who don't want him to get
47:43
Speaker 15: sucked into a prolonged, protracted quigmire.
47:47
Speaker 2: Just on another topic, we've seen Trump has his own perfume.
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Speaker 2: He's our in cryptocurrency. Now there's going to be a
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Speaker 2: commemorative gold coin bearing his image. Tell us about this.
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Speaker 15: This is very Trump, It is funny. So it's going
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Speaker 15: to be an official coin from the US Mint marking
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Speaker 15: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversaries since the declaration of
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Speaker 15: Independence this year and the founding of the United States.
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Speaker 15: There is precedent for it. At the one hundred and
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Speaker 15: fiftieth anniversary. President Calvin Coolidge in nineteen twenty six also
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Speaker 15: did receive a commemorative coin. There is a federal statute
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Speaker 15: in the US that prohibits leaders political leaders from being
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Speaker 15: on currency given the Revolutionary War and that pathway from it.
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Speaker 15: But there's a little bit of a carve out for
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Speaker 15: commemorative milestone events like this. And this is funny because
48:34
Speaker 15: it's going to be twenty four card gold, which is
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Speaker 15: very Trump. And given what happened in twenty twenty and
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Speaker 15: then his comeback in twenty twenty four, which many people
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Speaker 15: did not think would happen. He now gets to be
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Speaker 15: presiding or being the president over the two hundred and
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Speaker 15: fiftieth ye anniversary, so he gets a coin. He's also
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Speaker 15: going to preside over the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup,
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Speaker 15: and he sort of laughs about that, and it is
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Speaker 15: a little bit ironic and.
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Speaker 2: Funny, and he might be there, of course when the
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Speaker 2: new White House Ballroom opens.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 2: The timeline for that at this point, I mean, it
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Speaker 2: was very controversial, but see his own money he's putting.
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Speaker 15: In it was, yes, I think you know, he's a
49:09
Speaker 15: builder and always talks about how you like to deliver
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Speaker 15: projects ahead of schedule and under a budget, which is
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Speaker 15: something that doesn't happen in government so much so he's
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Speaker 15: definitely pushing to have it before this term is up.
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Speaker 15: But I don't think we have a more concrete timeline
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Speaker 15: just yet. He loves talking about it, though, so hopefully
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Speaker 15: it's sooner rather than later.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And as I mentioned at the start
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Speaker 2: of the show, Pauline Hanson was actually invited to go
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Speaker 2: have a meeting with Donald Trump on the weekend. She
49:31
Speaker 2: didn't go. She chose to attend the you know, the
49:35
Speaker 2: victory party. Well wasn't her victory party, but it should
49:38
Speaker 2: have been. They got a higher primary than the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 2: All right, Koshagata, great to see you, Thank you, and
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Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow at eight. His Paul Murray