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Happy Hour #159: Navigating Disappointment · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: one never told you protection by her radio.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome to another happy hour where it's a wine.
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  Speaker 2: Except I don't have wine. Do you have wine any.
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  Speaker 1: I wish if you had told me it was a wine,
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  Speaker 1: I would have got.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, my bad, I did not plan this correctly.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's all right, that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well it is a happy hour. And you know, we
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  Speaker 2: love to sip on things as we are talking about
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  Speaker 2: our woes or thoughts or whatever has been on our minds,
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  Speaker 2: or sometimes sex in the city. But today, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: it's a jin wine. And if you are partaking of anything,
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  Speaker 2: do so responsibly. Be good to yourself and to your
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  Speaker 2: body and to those around you. Annie, are you partaking
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  Speaker 2: of anything? No, just war water, swarm water. Sometimes it's
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  Speaker 2: got to be like that. It's got to be like that.
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  Speaker 2: You are partaking of taking care of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I am drinking on a diet doctor Pepper, not a sponsor.
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  Speaker 2: But it is that cream soda one that I like. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know Annie hates it. And he made a face.
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  Speaker 1: She made a face that was visceral.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was a lot of like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of feeling came into that one. But also yes, again
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  Speaker 2: not a sponsor. I doubt they would want to sponsor us.
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  Speaker 1: Tried to sponsor once on Savor and we had to
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  Speaker 1: be like, well, yeah, sure, are you open to one
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  Speaker 1: of those actively hating it? To be fair?
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  Speaker 2: I guess the new way they're transitioning it, it would work.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be funny.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they don't like it on our segments. They
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  Speaker 2: don't want us to be funny. We can't have personality.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about, Annie?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? These women no way funny.
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about anyway? Yeah, so today's happy hour,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to have a moment of like, why
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  Speaker 2: so just content warning, I am talking today's political issues,
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  Speaker 2: not fully in depth because we're not going all into it,
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  Speaker 2: but like just the theme or subject of us is
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  Speaker 2: just disappointment, Like how do we get beyond this? Because
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  Speaker 2: people that I trusted, people we have vouched for on Mike,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like and then they come out doing things
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  Speaker 2: that you're like, wait, what, but why Recently our state
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  Speaker 2: senators voted in favor of the upcoming Secretary of Labor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand, and I the amount of disappointment that
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  Speaker 2: exudes because for a minute I thought they would at
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  Speaker 2: least like not partake, But no, that they did, because
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that has everything would like not
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  Speaker 2: wanting to shut down the federal government, YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure maybe they have thoughts to this, But
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  Speaker 2: why when we are in such a state of peril,
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  Speaker 2: Just why? Of course, this also comes down to the
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  Speaker 2: conversation of like, not necessarily, I do not idolize politicians.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just go ahead and put that out there, because
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  Speaker 2: I know too well, especially in the US, people like
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  Speaker 2: to straddle defense. And it's really upsetting to see that.
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  Speaker 2: You thought when you thought some people held to certain standards,
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  Speaker 2: and then you see them not because they vote for
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  Speaker 2: the interest of their pockets or for like preconceived ideas
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  Speaker 2: of God. To play the game, I guess. And there's
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  Speaker 2: been so much of that recently, so much of this
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  Speaker 2: nonsense of trying to play the game in order to
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  Speaker 2: appease everyone. So therefore they're making everybody angry, and especially
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  Speaker 2: here in the state of Georgia. We talked about it
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  Speaker 2: recently about John Ossoff. He's the next one to be
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  Speaker 2: going through an election possibly being unseated here in the
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  Speaker 2: state of Georgia, and we hear Marjorie Taylor Green is
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  Speaker 2: the favorite favorite to run against him, and this is
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  Speaker 2: not helping, This is not this is not helping seeing him.
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  Speaker 2: He's also gotten some several stances of things that's happening
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  Speaker 2: with Israel and Gaza that I found it very disappointing
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  Speaker 2: as well. I know that he is a part of
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  Speaker 2: the Jewish community, and I get a lot of this
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  Speaker 2: conversation in that perhaps there's some confusion. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna explain things
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  Speaker 2: away because I don't know this man. I thought we
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  Speaker 2: agreed on most of the things and again we don't
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  Speaker 2: have to like the morality and the values for the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of his campaign aligned and then it feels like
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  Speaker 2: things are falling apart. And I don't know again if
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  Speaker 2: this is my level of everything's the worse and I
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  Speaker 2: hate it here type of mindset and I need to
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  Speaker 2: back up. But I'm just trying to figure out and
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  Speaker 2: listeners and Annie, how do we deal with these types
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  Speaker 2: of disappointments outside of like, yes, we need to be
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  Speaker 2: active and make sure that they understand we are unhappy
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  Speaker 2: and that we need to vocalize it. We need to
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  Speaker 2: come through and people are protesting. I love seeing the
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  Speaker 2: Tesla take down. It's been really rewarding to see and
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  Speaker 2: encouraging to see. But what do you do when it
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  Speaker 2: feels like it's so out of control? Because if it
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  Speaker 2: comes down to John Ossoff versus Marjorie Tayler Green, obviously
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to vote one way over the other
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  Speaker 2: for the betterment of all of Georgia, society, humanity, however
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  Speaker 2: you want to look at this. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: I want him and the other people who are supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be our voices, who are supposed to protect our rights,
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  Speaker 2: to understand how severely disappointed we are and that you're
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  Speaker 2: grifting because I've gotten how many texts from his campaign
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  Speaker 2: and emails saying they need donations to fight against Trump,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not fighting anything. So it seems I am
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how do we handle this type
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  Speaker 2: of disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough, it's difficult.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they really betrayed us. Well, he sound
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  Speaker 2: like my mom at the beginning of those Well, Samantha.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's true, and that's the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing about, you know, holding your politicians accountable for what
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  Speaker 1: they said, but things also change, and also I mean
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  Speaker 1: how much can I hold them accountable? But also, no
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  Speaker 1: one's doing what they said they were going to do
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  Speaker 1: really right, So I think every I think right now,
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  Speaker 1: everything is just a constant state of we don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's happening here, even for politicians in some circumstances. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I have no good answer for that
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  Speaker 1: other than yeah, making it known. This is not what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted. That's not why I voted for you, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean there's so many states like statuses that's
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  Speaker 2: happening around the country. And again, I think I talked
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  Speaker 2: about it in a previous Happy Hour about like this
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  Speaker 2: chaos is the point. There's so much the things that
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  Speaker 2: we are supposed to do as citizens and voters we did,
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  Speaker 2: and it feels like it's coming back to bite us
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  Speaker 2: because even the ones where we had victory, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: seeing the victory. I'm not seeing that portion of them
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  Speaker 2: standing up. Al Green, a presentative of al Green, really
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  Speaker 2: did some kind of did what we wanted in that
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  Speaker 2: like he was very vocal and very like no, we
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  Speaker 2: do not respect this man. You know, we need accountability.
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  Speaker 2: And then Democrats came about like, oh, calm down, this
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  Speaker 2: is not appropriate. We need to be respectful, and then
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  Speaker 2: forgetting like, hey, you know, this administration is literally taking
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  Speaker 2: away the rights of a big chunk of the population
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  Speaker 2: that voted for you, most of the people that voted
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  Speaker 2: for you, and you're sitting here talk about being respectful
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  Speaker 2: to a speech versus actually being appalled at the speech.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just such an odd place to be that
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  Speaker 2: when those who like we have touted that if you
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  Speaker 2: do it the right way, if you do this in
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  Speaker 2: this play, and if you vote, go out and vote
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  Speaker 2: and let your voices be heard, then things will be
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  Speaker 2: taken care of. But it has been far from that.
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  Speaker 2: And of course when we talk about this like type
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  Speaker 2: of administration that came in full force ready to implement
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  Speaker 2: Christian nationalism, implement billionaires over the vast population and their citizens,
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  Speaker 2: is a whole different story. It's this whole different conversation.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that we are now on a human rights
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  Speaker 2: watch list, you know, like it's all of these things.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth about this disappointment because I
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  Speaker 2: really am like, how do we gauge this, How do
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  Speaker 2: we gauge this conversation? I am wanting to see my
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  Speaker 2: family less and less. Of course I've been disappointed, and
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  Speaker 2: I know they are disappointed in me. Like this goes
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  Speaker 2: back and forth in that level and like to co
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  Speaker 2: and see them right now. I'm scared because, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this could be the ruining of my
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  Speaker 2: second family, my family because of this politics. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want that to be. But if they come in touting
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  Speaker 2: about how great a Musk is doing, I'm gonna fight
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  Speaker 2: somebody verbally because that's definitely you're telling me everything I
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  Speaker 2: need to know and how much you don't care about
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  Speaker 2: me as a person, as a human and as your
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  Speaker 2: adopted daughter you brought over here because you empathetically thought
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  Speaker 2: I need to save the children from a different country
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  Speaker 2: and bring him them here and then have them on
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  Speaker 2: a green car till they were fourteen, Like so many
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  Speaker 2: things that doesn't make sense and the level of disappointment,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to like like wade through to the
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  Speaker 2: other side of like how do I get to this
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  Speaker 2: point because again, even when we do things respectfully, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it's working. There's I know we're all
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  Speaker 2: in the same state too, But my biggest question is
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  Speaker 2: how are you going through this disappointment? Like, how are
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  Speaker 2: you getting through it outside of just being angry and
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  Speaker 2: trying to find a solution? Like personally, like it's I
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  Speaker 2: I feel it. I feel it in everybody's conversation, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody's just like willingness to go out. People want to stop,
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  Speaker 2: like just the freeze, like everybody freezing in like anxiety
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  Speaker 2: and fear and like just interacting is so palpable that
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  Speaker 2: it's alarming. At the same time, it just makes me,
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  Speaker 2: honest sleep a superpower. So I'm just trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out how are y'all doing? How are y'all surviving this? Annie?
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  Speaker 2: Are you surviving? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you.
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  Speaker 1: That's something.
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  Speaker 2: You have a visceral reaction to Dr Pepper that counts.
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  Speaker 1: I still have reactions to things. There was a point
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  Speaker 1: in time where I couldn't even get excited about the
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Last of Us two, the second season because I was
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  Speaker 1: too worried about politics. And now I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's I mean, it's tough. I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: think all of us have really good days and really
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  Speaker 1: bad days, and a lot of days that feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're just in a haze than trying to get by
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  Speaker 1: and maybe not look at the news that day because
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  Speaker 1: it's just gonna change the next day and it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be worse or better and you don't know because it'll
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  Speaker 1: change the next day again and you don't know. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm surviving.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is the key. I will say so.
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  Speaker 2: Listener Susie Hi, who also follows us on Blue Sky,
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  Speaker 2: she wrote something about she's gonna tooot her own horn
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  Speaker 2: because she did something and she's very proud of that,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, I think that's the that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why. That was just a small post about
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  Speaker 2: like how she feels accomplished and I love that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's that's what I want to see more of.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see more of the individuals who are
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  Speaker 2: triumphanting over whatever that day and I am loving that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why it gave me so much encouragement.
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  Speaker 2: So Susie, if you're listening to this episode, which you
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  Speaker 2: might not be, thank you. Like I like, I went
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  Speaker 2: wiped in immediately. I'm like, yes, toot that horn, like
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  Speaker 2: because it just felt like, Ah, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 2: in such a bad headspace. And I say this about
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  Speaker 2: myself as well, that feeling like I can do that
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  Speaker 2: is a impossible be too much and ce not done enough,
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  Speaker 2: like all of these things like I don't know, let
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  Speaker 2: me see if I can think of something that I
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  Speaker 2: could toot my own horn. I haven't heard that phrase
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  Speaker 2: in a long time, so I appreciate that too, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like we are, I think we're bringing out good content
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: even in this dreagery of a year. I think we're
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: doing some good content. I feel like we're doing some
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: informative conversations, we're looking at insights. We're doing a great
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  Speaker 2: job in bringing both your personality and my personality into
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: this show, and that we are keeping true to it
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: no matter what is happening in the state of the world,
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: and hopefully we are balancing things out. I also am
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: very on edge about saying the wrong thing and feeling
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  Speaker 2: like I might offend a group of people who are
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: already feeling ostracized. So I hope that's not the case.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: And we just talked about sin of empathy, and we
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: were talking about like how they equate being queer as
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: being like overly sexual and polyamorous, all the things I
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: actually want ab out there that we don't think there's
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with that. If you're consenting adults living your
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: life and are happy, that is a beautiful thing. So
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: even if like that should have been part of that conversation,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: but we were bypassing it because there's so much to
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  Speaker 2: be said. But you know, in the back of my head,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we do not. I hope for the most
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  Speaker 2: part that everybody understands that when we are talking about
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  Speaker 2: these types of conversations that it's not about shaming a
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  Speaker 2: group of people that are just trying to live. It's
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  Speaker 2: about shaming people who uses their own judgment as to
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  Speaker 2: say what's right and wrong, and that's the only way
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  Speaker 2: to be slash use it to take away people's rights,
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  Speaker 2: which is awful. So all of those to say, is
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  Speaker 2: this type of conversation that we're having, we want to
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  Speaker 2: keep having it, And I think I think for the
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  Speaker 2: most part we're doing a pretty good job and doing so.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the way I think we can toot our horn.
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  Speaker 2: Even though I did bring a bit of like, but
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  Speaker 2: we could do this better. Apparently, I really can't do
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  Speaker 2: that well.
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  Speaker 1: Always looking for ways to improve to your horn.
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  Speaker 2: Annie, what you got, Yes, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I agree. I'll also say personally, at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I was like not, I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how we were going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: do how I was going to continue to do it,
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  Speaker 1: just because it's miserable. A lot of times I say
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: this from a very privileged place. I get to work
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: from home researching a thing. I was thinking to es
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  Speaker 1: today about like previous jobs I had, and how I
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  Speaker 1: prefer this one the most, so to put that out there.
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  Speaker 1: But it does mean that you have to delve into
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  Speaker 1: some things that you'd rather on some days be like why, why,
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  Speaker 1: why do I have to do this? This is horrible?
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  Speaker 1: Why are any of us doing this? But so I agree,
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  Speaker 1: I think for me, I've also you know, I've hung
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  Speaker 1: out with a lot of people. I've seen a lot
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: of people. I saw my mom last weekend, which was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a much less fraud experience for me than it is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: for you. But it was really nice seen her forever
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  Speaker 1: and I forgot I forgot how much I missed her.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I'm getting a little teary about it. So I've
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  Speaker 1: made I kept up with these relationships that actually kind
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  Speaker 1: of died off when I was so stressed about the election.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: It's funny how that works. But I've done that and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I've still still writing. I told you my fan fiction.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: People are mad at me, but I'm that chapter is
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: almost done. If anybody happens to read it, I swear
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to god, it is almost done.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I love it. People will probably come tuning in for
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the first time. People coming from your fans like to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: find you, and they found you.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that you know I'm an audio because
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  Speaker 1: I accidentally write a lot of times at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, you know what. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 2: They might they might have translations on it.
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  Speaker 1: I have audio.
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  Speaker 2: I love it audio readers. Yeah. I think that's that's
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: a really big conversation, like having friendships. Because I've been
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: slowly working my way into the public, into the like
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: actual environmental social places, I'm like, okay, I can do this.
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  Speaker 2: I even instigated. Some of them are like, whoa, look
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  Speaker 2: at me, trying to be all active. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's important because it feels you and I've already
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: talked about our struggles and trying to come back into society, yes,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: especially now, and everything being as odd and feeling like
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: everything's extra work, like putting on appropriate clothes that's not stained.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Am I wearing a stain hoodie? Yes? Do
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  Speaker 2: I still love it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's part of the big thing.
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  Speaker 2: And and for our listeners, please write in, please let
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  Speaker 2: us know what you or how you navigate your disappointments,
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  Speaker 2: because I know as vast especially right now, and I've
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  Speaker 2: heard from We've heard from many of y'all talking about
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  Speaker 2: how you've been disappointed in your politicians, as your local politicians,
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  Speaker 2: your people who you really thought had your best best
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  Speaker 2: interest and then they come out in a very unexpected way.
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  Speaker 2: How do you navigate that? And then yeah, to your horn,
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  Speaker 2: let us know what's going good and how you are
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  Speaker 2: accomplishing things, because those are the stories we need as
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  Speaker 2: a reminder that, yes, we're going to get past this.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to take a minute, we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to go through some really dark things together, but in
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  Speaker 2: that end we're going to come out. So yes, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for letting me whine.
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