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UK Column News Extra - 20th June 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back for some extra Shall we start with
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  Speaker 1: Christian Zionism.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's get to that in the moment. That
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  Speaker 2: was a very interesting clip. I don't know. If we
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  Speaker 2: have that clip, then you need to show the first
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds of it again, it's worth it. So but
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  Speaker 2: before that, Mike, if Seymour Hirsch is right and it's
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  Speaker 2: a FATA company in the United States is going to
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  Speaker 2: launch a severe air campaign against Iran over the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: we could be waking up to a different reality on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: Sunday or Monday. The worst thing about this, and this
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  Speaker 2: is the most cynical part of it, is that, according
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  Speaker 2: to his sources, Trump wanted to avoid too much tumultuous
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  Speaker 2: shocks in the market by waiting until after the weekend. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the cynicism of this, this is the world
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  Speaker 2: we live in.
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  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is if he had waited till
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  Speaker 1: after the weekend, that would have created the shocks to
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  Speaker 1: the market.
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  Speaker 2: Ta. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If he does it over the weekend, it gives them
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  Speaker 1: a bit of time to climate before exactly, no panic
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  Speaker 1: on Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I take that as meaning late Friday night or Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: So but it's so cynical. Let's let's launch World War
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  Speaker 2: three of the weekend because we don't want to disturb
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  Speaker 2: the markets and you know, hit people too hard on
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  Speaker 2: their four oh one k's and I rash.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, Patrick, my experience is because you know that
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  Speaker 1: I did work for a hedge fund for a while,
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  Speaker 1: and my experiences that whenever there's the prospect of war
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  Speaker 1: coming along.
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  Speaker 3: These guys get really excited.
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  Speaker 1: And you know the number of times somebody said to me,
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  Speaker 1: I wish to just get the down war started. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because because they want to see the moves in the markets.
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  Speaker 2: You want to buy in the dip, buy in the dip. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. It's pretty sick. But this
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  Speaker 2: is the this is the United States. It's uh, forget
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  Speaker 2: about the military. It's all about the dollar. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: that's where it's at. That's where the real power is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we've been saying for a very long time.
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  Speaker 2: The United States is not necessarily top dog in the
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  Speaker 2: military areas compared to a lot of other countries. The tech.
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  Speaker 2: Other countries got the tech, they got huge advances and
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  Speaker 2: as I ran as demonstrating in avionics and rocket technology,
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  Speaker 2: and plus all the other cyber capabilities, the drones, the AI, etc.
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  Speaker 2: US it doesn't monopoly on any of this stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: what does the US have a monopoly on world financial
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  Speaker 2: preponderance through the US dollars or world reserve currency. They
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  Speaker 2: can move the markets whichever they is.
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  Speaker 3: This whole thing is destroying that though, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It's damaging it certainly. It's also damaging the trust and
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  Speaker 2: credibility of the United States government. And if the US
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  Speaker 2: economy goes into a heavy tail spin. Look at the
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  Speaker 2: bond markets, it's not good. No nobody who wants to
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  Speaker 2: touch touch the ten years, you know, let alone the
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  Speaker 2: thirty years. I mean, it's just just gone. Japan's dumping.
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  Speaker 2: Japan's dumping. This is the number one subsidizer of United
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  Speaker 2: States debt. They're out. So I think it's you're looking
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  Speaker 2: at could this be an engineered war to basically cover
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  Speaker 2: over the collapse of the US dollar dominated financial system
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  Speaker 2: FIAT system and replace it with WHOA, we've got some
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  Speaker 2: magic tools here about central bank digital currency. How about that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's engineered in that sense.
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  Speaker 1: I think that these people like to take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: every opportunity that comes along.
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  Speaker 3: I think this absolutely. You know, they are busy building.
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  Speaker 1: This parallel infrastructure at the moment, which will they hope
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  Speaker 1: be sitting there witting in the wings whenever the dollar
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  Speaker 1: finally collapses and the markets with our diet have been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, somehow balancing on this knife edge since two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 2: But if they're getting richer, that means somebody must be
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  Speaker 2: getting poorer, right, So if we don't have the tools
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  Speaker 2: of the access of the capital to capitalize off these
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  Speaker 2: giant disparities in the market that result from these extreme
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  Speaker 2: foreign policy and war measures, then we're going to have
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  Speaker 2: a wider wealth gap.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there is no question that everybody ninety nine
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  Speaker 1: point nine ninety nine percent of the people are getting poorer,
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  Speaker 1: while there's there're definitely capital flows to the fraction of
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  Speaker 1: one percent that are at the top of that permit.
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  Speaker 1: But of course we've also got to appreciate that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that is being driven by money expansion and
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  Speaker 1: so on, and so it's fake it's fake wealth actually.
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  Speaker 3: But Mark, what were your thoughts, Well, I.
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  Speaker 4: Was thinking that this has an interesting parallel with the
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  Speaker 4: financial thread that I was unearthing from the Builderberg meeting,
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  Speaker 4: because what they're saying is that the Savings and Investment Union,
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  Speaker 4: the launch of it where we're concerned they might pill
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  Speaker 4: for Europeans high savings that launch of the Savings and
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  Speaker 4: Investment Union. Just a day before that launched, the European
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  Speaker 4: Commission announced a rearmament effort projected to costs up to
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred billion euro by the end of the decade,
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  Speaker 4: a European rearmament effort. So you've got the short term
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  Speaker 4: threat of war with Israel and Iran, something more impulsive,
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  Speaker 4: something more imminent. But then you've got these broader brushstrokes
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  Speaker 4: of re arming Europe. And they're worried about fragmented capital
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  Speaker 4: markets in the EU compared to the less fragmented capital
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  Speaker 4: markets of the US. And then they're citing trillions of
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  Speaker 4: dollars of European savings to be the backstop or the
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  Speaker 4: leverage or the mortgage finance. However, they're going to do
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  Speaker 4: it to rebuild Europe's poor investment performance. Right now, what
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  Speaker 4: they claim is under investment in Europe, and a big
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  Speaker 4: part of that is rearmament. So short term and long term,
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  Speaker 4: short brushstrokes, broad brushstrokes, the defense contractors and military arming
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  Speaker 4: is just a major driving force behind world world powers
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  Speaker 4: right now. You just see it all over the place,
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  Speaker 4: obviously in the big picture and in the more snapshot
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  Speaker 4: type things going on.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean you say short term, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: suggest it's not. Actually we are looking at sort of perpetual,
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  Speaker 1: perpetual war because we've got Ukraine, Moldy well down the road,
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  Speaker 1: We've got Gaza well done the road, We've got Iran
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  Speaker 1: just about to kick off in a very big way.
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  Speaker 1: What's next, Patrick, Pakistan, China, India, what absolutely happens.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we didn't even get into the Israel's already telegraphing
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  Speaker 2: that the Pakistan regime needs to go and that Pakistan
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to have nuclear weapons. You can see
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  Speaker 2: look at the map you go from Iran. Once you
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  Speaker 2: have regime change in Iran, then that's a launching pad
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  Speaker 2: for a US puppet regime. US bases there. The CIA
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  Speaker 2: will then have a giant station there. The British will
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  Speaker 2: be in there, of course, doing their perfidious activities, alongside
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  Speaker 2: their American best buddies, and of course Masad. So this
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  Speaker 2: is the troika. Actually it's Israel, the UK and the
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  Speaker 2: United States, active in Ukraine, active in Gaza, and active
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, and will be active to topple the government
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  Speaker 2: in Pakistan and then denuclearize it, and that will break
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  Speaker 2: up China's massive partnership with Pakistan and all of their
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  Speaker 2: Belton Road projects that they've got going together and straight
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  Speaker 2: through Central Asia, not to mention Iran in terms of
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  Speaker 2: being such a key node in the entire Belton Road network. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: plus the North South corridors. I mean, they feel in
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  Speaker 2: the West they have to break this up. They have
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  Speaker 2: to sabotage, they have to disrupt and destroy, not to
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  Speaker 2: build anything, nope, nope, just to prevent other people from
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  Speaker 2: being prosperous. That's where the Anglo Americans are. That's where
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  Speaker 2: the Europeans are. The Europeans are as dumb as a
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  Speaker 2: box of rocks because they're just getting poor as a
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  Speaker 2: result of all this. Britain doesn't care, the US doesn't care,
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  Speaker 2: because they consider themselves, you know, out of Europe as
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  Speaker 2: it were, and they have their own sort of economic
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  Speaker 2: blocks and trading networks and Fiat monetary systems that can
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  Speaker 2: keep their pre eminence. But Europe is really the I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, the idiotic stepchild of this new world order,
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  Speaker 2: and they're just going to become a tourist theme park
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  Speaker 2: by the end of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark, Yeah, there's a lot to unpack from all this.
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  Speaker 4: Going back to the USS nemics, the aging aircraft carrier.
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  Speaker 4: All eyes around that now as this about to be
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  Speaker 4: decommissioned nuclear powered air craft carrier could be conceivably uh junked. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they even said that the twin towers were
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  Speaker 4: full of asbestos and they needed a way to demolish
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  Speaker 4: them much more efficiently. Now that's you know, some call
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  Speaker 4: that a bit bit of a stretch, but nevertheless.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and Mark, and pollute theatre the most beautiful part
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  Speaker 2: of the Mediterranean seat. Why not just drop a radioactive
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  Speaker 2: hunk of garbage right in the middle of that. That'll
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  Speaker 2: be good for the environment, won't it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And a few a few uh torpedoes and a
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  Speaker 4: few bombs and missiles is a lot cheaper than the
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  Speaker 4: estimated one billion to decommission this thing, of course, to
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  Speaker 4: be to be sure, an aircraft carrier full of warplanes,
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  Speaker 4: which probably would have escorts, is going to be less
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  Speaker 4: vulnerable than a uh spy ship like the USS Liberty,
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  Speaker 4: which phil Turney noted, and he was puzzled at the
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  Speaker 4: time that they were denied a destroyer escort when they
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  Speaker 4: went into the Eastern Mediterranean, the USS Liberty was denied
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  Speaker 4: a destroyer escort, and before the Israeli attack, he was
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  Speaker 4: very puzzled about that because there was a war going
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  Speaker 4: on right there, So, you know, would would the Nimics
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  Speaker 4: go into the Middle East maybe with fewer escorts than normal.
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  Speaker 4: That might be something to look for because carrier.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Mark, I think the Yemen situation absolutely demonstrated
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  Speaker 1: that the United States is not capable of defending a
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  Speaker 1: carrier group.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I've never quite understood how the you you what do
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  Speaker 4: they call? Who Thi's could could be quite that proficient.
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  Speaker 4: I've always wondered if there's more to unearthed or more
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  Speaker 4: to just more to discern about that whole thing. But nevertheless,
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  Speaker 4: the arrogance of the US Empire is probably its worst enemy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like the arrogance of Rome and its latter days.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the idea of invincibility when it just doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: When has a carrier group ever been under attack since
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  Speaker 2: Second World War? It hasn't well, there's one Falklands. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you had a British carrier.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Protected by destroyers and frigates. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say I don't know enough about what
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  Speaker 1: kind of target that actually became.
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  Speaker 2: It became a target with very old and rudimentary Exocet missiles,
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  Speaker 2: and the technology that the Huthis have is in advance
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  Speaker 2: of that. But it just goes to show you can't
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  Speaker 2: defend a navy in today's day and age. The weapons
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  Speaker 2: just completely neutralize naval power if they're close to shore,
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  Speaker 2: close enough to shore that somebody has within firing range.
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  Speaker 2: It it's only they're only good against adversaries who can't
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  Speaker 2: shoot back.
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  Speaker 3: Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so conversation, But the general point is, the general
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  Speaker 2: point is today's missile and rocket technology neutralizes naval power
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  Speaker 2: to a large degree. Okay, It's just the way it is.
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  Speaker 2: And the United States is going to run into that
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  Speaker 2: problem should they decide to attack Iran, and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a long war, and no doubt the United
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  Speaker 2: States is going to be receiving They're already evacuating their
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  Speaker 2: Middle Eastern bases. Have you seen those reports? Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: United States is evacuating some of their main bases, they're
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  Speaker 2: already in the process of evacuation. So that was another clue.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have time to mention that, unfortunately during the
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  Speaker 2: news segment, but that was another indication which I should
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  Speaker 2: have mentioned that that leads one to say that Seymour
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  Speaker 2: Ursh's prediction of a FATA compley this weekend is probably accurate.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it's not. We're all praying that it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's some pundits that are dying for this
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  Speaker 2: war to happen, including in our alternative media, because it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be great for their social media followings and
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  Speaker 2: their Twitter Space engagement and their YouTube soops. They're just
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  Speaker 2: gagging for it. Okay, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, hopefully no one is, because honestly, I.
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  Speaker 2: Wish there were no wars and we could all get
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  Speaker 2: to gardening and phishing and other things. But unfortunately we
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  Speaker 2: have to do this because these people want to kill
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  Speaker 2: us all, just as simple as that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's let's talk about the where the support
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  Speaker 1: is coming from for this, because in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: clearly there is this very close relationship between support for
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  Speaker 1: this conflict and as you've described, its extreme Christianity. But
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  Speaker 1: extreme Christianity doesn't seem to be a marginalized thing in
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  Speaker 1: the US. It seems to be quite a significant proportion
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  Speaker 1: of the total number of Christians.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's marginalized, Mike, in the sense that it's not
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  Speaker 2: given me stream coverage. It's bifurcated. In America. They have
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  Speaker 2: their own groups, their conferences, they have the teleevangelical preachers.
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  Speaker 2: Mark knows. I'm talking about a huge audiences within their
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  Speaker 2: little sort of echo chambers. But rarely will you see
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  Speaker 2: a major mainstream media person put someone like a senator
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  Speaker 2: on the spot to kind of tease out his extreme, fanatical, loopy,
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  Speaker 2: end times crazy belief systems. This guy that's making foreign
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  Speaker 2: policy for the US government. Tucker did that, And I
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  Speaker 2: can't tell you how what a great revelation this was.
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  Speaker 2: It might even be a game changer. I'll just put
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  Speaker 2: it that way, because this is something that's been kept
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  Speaker 2: hidden the Israeli lobby desionists like to keep this hidden
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  Speaker 2: just enough so average Americans, reasonable normal people don't see
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  Speaker 2: this side of America. But yet it lurks right there
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  Speaker 2: at the heart of the beast in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 2: But unless you go to the events. Unless you attend
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  Speaker 2: crazy confabs of these fanatical nut cases, you will not know.
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  Speaker 2: I went to one of these undercover. I went to
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  Speaker 2: an m k rally in the United States and Rudy
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  Speaker 2: Giuliani was a keynote speaker, John McCain coming in on
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  Speaker 2: the skype call. It was the most insane cult sort
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  Speaker 2: of confab you could imagine. It was absolutely crazy. And
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  Speaker 2: the United States senators, congressmen all queuing up to take
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  Speaker 2: money from this terrorist organization that promises to overthrow the
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  Speaker 2: Iranian government and be marching to tron John Bolton was
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  Speaker 2: a Howard Dean was on their patrons list as well
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  Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans. Unbelievable and full of Zionists, full of Zionists.
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  Speaker 2: And then what they do is they take the Iranian diaspora,
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  Speaker 2: all these millionaire Iranians that fled when the Shaw lost
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  Speaker 2: power in seventy nine with the Islamic Revolution. They come
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  Speaker 2: to America. These all people have done very well in business,
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  Speaker 2: and they basically tease money out of them and they
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  Speaker 2: get them to donate into the campaign coffers of all
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  Speaker 2: these US politicians that then promise these Iranian expats that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to overthrow the aetola. This is part of
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  Speaker 2: the whole political system and it's a giant money laundering
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  Speaker 2: machine and most people don't even know it exists unless
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  Speaker 2: you go to the events because they don't broadcast. It's
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  Speaker 2: the same with Christian Zionism, absolutely bat you know what, crazy,
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  Speaker 2: And these people are running making foreign policy. They're deciding
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  Speaker 2: if there's going to be a third World war. These
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  Speaker 2: nutcases like Ted Kruz and people like him. It's absolutely frightening.
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  Speaker 3: Mark.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also interesting. A close parallel of this is
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  Speaker 4: that the MAGA base, the grassroots MAGA base, not only
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  Speaker 4: including Tucker Carlson, but Marjory Taylor Green and Steve Bannon
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  Speaker 4: are crying foul here lately, saying, look, Donald Trump, Israel
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  Speaker 4: can be Israel first, but we're America first. That's what
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  Speaker 4: mag is supposed to stand for, and that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: we should be all in on fighting Israel's wars. So
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  Speaker 4: there's descent in the ranks. As I understand that Steve
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  Speaker 4: Bann and Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson and others, they're
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  Speaker 4: beginning to balk at this absolutely ridiculous, unconditional no matter what,
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  Speaker 4: support for Israel's wars, and so that's some good news.
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  Speaker 4: It's something that hold.
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  Speaker 1: On a second though, because it's not Israel's wars, is
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  Speaker 1: it because this has been a policy objective for the
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  Speaker 1: U of States for for how long?
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  Speaker 2: Thirty years, sixty sixty years, sixty years.
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  Speaker 3: So you know this is yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: This is their language though, this is Marjorie Taylor Green,
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  Speaker 4: Steve Bann, and they're calling it Israel's wars. They're saying
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  Speaker 4: the US needs to be America first, maybe Israel will
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  Speaker 4: be Israel first. I'm more or less paraphrasing them, but
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  Speaker 4: I do see what you mean, Mike. The US has
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  Speaker 4: that law long term control interest in the overall narrative
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  Speaker 4: and the overall geopolitical machinations. I do know what you
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  Speaker 4: mean by that. It's also a noteworthy on the Christian
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  Speaker 4: Zionism front that, yeah, they don't get a lot of
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  Speaker 4: direct media coverage like the seven hundred Club by Pat
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  Speaker 4: Robertson will pay ABC money to use the ABC network
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  Speaker 4: to broadcast the seven hundred Club, which is a combination
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  Speaker 4: of news and preaching and whatnot. But other than that,
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  Speaker 4: you have to go to those specific stations like Patrick said,
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  Speaker 4: their own echo chambers to see what the Zionist line is,
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  Speaker 4: so they'll buy time on regular stations. But other than that,
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  Speaker 4: they're on their own stations. And the big thing they
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  Speaker 4: miss theologically. And I don't know if Tucker Carlson or
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  Speaker 4: Candae Owen got into this because we only saw part
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  Speaker 4: of what they had to say. But from the New
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  Speaker 4: Testament perspective, Jewish power is is shown in the Pharisees,
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  Speaker 4: in the Sanhedrin, and the Sanhedrin was diametrically opposed to
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  Speaker 4: the message of Christ, which we might have touched on
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  Speaker 4: on Extra a week or two ago. But so, what
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  Speaker 4: the Christian Zionists are basically saying is that they want
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  Speaker 4: to support the basic philosophy of the Pharisees, the Sanhedrin
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  Speaker 4: that crucified Christ, the crucified the Lord and Savior that
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  Speaker 4: the Zionists claim to you know, honor as the number
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  Speaker 4: one thing, you know, the Trinity, and Christ's redemption, his resurrection,
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  Speaker 4: his ascension, and the promise of eternal life. The Zionists
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  Speaker 4: claim ultimately that's their main message. They're all in for Christ,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: but they're actually supporting the very people that were against
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Christ's movement in the days of Christ. The philosophy of
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: the Pharisees and the in the Sanhedrin is virtually identical
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: to at least the biblical claims that the Israeli state
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: makes or the Zionists. The Zionists make those claims and
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: then they try and say that Israel is in tune
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: with those with the Bible and things like that. But
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: the Israeli state, I think, is more more of a
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: secular state, and they kind of just go along with
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the Zionist narrative, but because it provides the theological cover
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: for what they do. So there's a lot of Yeah,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: there's a syop going on here. It's a major syop,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: and I'm just elaborating on it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: It's very deceptive, it's very deceptive. And when you've seen Nettignahu,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of giving, you know, giving flattering the Christians,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: when he's making these ridiculous presentations, talking about the Bible
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: says in this all this stuff, it's just it's all deception.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He's not genuine, he's not sincere. He's literally trying to
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: use American voters in order to get what he wants.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But back to that question about Israel's wars and Americans wars.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Because this all comes down to the heart of it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Discussed this last week during this extra segment, and you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it's it's the relationship between the United States, and it
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: is disingenuous this argument that Steve Bann and Marjorie Tayler
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Green and to our Carls are making. I understand that's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the language politically that will work in America to kind
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: of pull try to pull Mago away from quote fighting
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Israel's wars. But these are the same people that we'll
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: say we need to confront China, we need to we
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: need to contain China. China, which is this harm. China
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: is our enemy the whole So the whole gambit with
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Iran is really geopolitically about China. But what you have
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: and we'll explain it again as I did last week,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: it's a quid pro quo. Israel's allowed to basically do
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: what it wants, which is to create a greater Israel.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: The United States supports that, they allow, that they fund
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that they'll look the other way on little things like
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: genocides and you know, ethnic cleansing, don't mind out of sight,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't worry, and then what the US gets from it
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: is Israel is their junkyard dog in the Middle East,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and they attack everybody that America wants to attack and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: weakend and divide and conquer and so forth, and Britain
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and America be sure that wants to attack because to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: top of the Iranian government to make that a launching
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: pad to disrupt the Belton Road initiative, then take take
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Pakistan down and then contain and damage China in the process.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: So all these people saying it's not America's war, it
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: is one hundred percent America's war, and they don't understand
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: or they're conveniently ignoring American deep state policy and continuity
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: for the last you know, seventy eighty years. And that's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: totally congruent with British geopolitical strategy Grand strategy as well.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So it is so if they're really if they're really sincere,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they'll say China is not our enemy either. In fact,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: why should anybody be our enemy? But these people all
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: do the same thing. No but China, No, But well,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we don't want to fight this war. We think the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Iya tool is evil person. We don't know why. But
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that's what Fox told us he's an evil person. But
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: no new wars, no new wars. So they're saying, yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you need regime change, but we don't want to do it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Israel should do the regime change, and we're not gonna
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: get involved. Yeah, but you're gonna supply the bumps, the planes,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the satellite reconnaissance, the ISR. You're gonna provide the air
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to air refueling. You're gonna give them bases to land
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: their planes because the Iranians have just pulverized most of
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the Israeli air bases in Israel. We're gonna do all that,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: but we're not involved. We're gonna hand them the gun,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: put the bullets in, pay for everything, put the put
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the hitman in a taxi, send them straight to the thing,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: have the have our people hold down the person you're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: gonna shoot, but we're not involved because we're not pulling
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the trigger. I mean, it's it is such deception, the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: lies from the US, from the British, the Israelis. This
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: is the level of Deceit is just something biblical, that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the real revelation and all this is just the amount
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of lying and gaslighting that we are being subjected to.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The level of lying and gaslighting that were being subjected to.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a thing that we haven't seen before? We
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: saw it all through the covidocracy. The thing that I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: finding most depressing, if you want to put it in
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: those terms, is that the people that recognized the lying
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and the deception and the gas lighting when they were
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: on the receiving end of it aren't prepared to recognize
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: it because they're not on the receiving end of it anymore.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It's still there, but sorry, let me rephrase that, because
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: they don't recognize that they're on the receiving end of it, because,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: as you rightly say, they are that we are all
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: still on the receiving end of this because we're paying
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for it, and this is destroying our economies, it's destroying
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: our children's futures.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely go to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Be atrocious what happens over the next twenty thirty years,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: assuming we survived the next two years, right and legitimately, so,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it's about time we all recognized that the lying, the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: gas lighting, the deception is of a scale that we've
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: seen before, and it is against us. It's not against
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: some a bunch of tall heads in the Middle East.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: They are going to be on the receiving end of
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the guns and the bullets for nine until some of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: these start raining down in our heads perhaps, but more
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: likely is we're going to be on the receiving end
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of economic armageddon as a result of this, and we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: need to recognize it and we need to deal with it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But as long as we assume that it's somebody else's problem,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: we're not going to.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Deal with it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: And the other one of the sorry one of those
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: lies that we here repeated over and over from Nettigna,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: who from every US president and Paul and from every
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: British leader is that Iran is the preeminent number one
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: state sponsor of terror in the world for the last
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: forty years. Where is the freaking evidence for this? Because
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I thought ISIS and al Qaeda was the big wow
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: terrorist group. Wow isis al Qaeda? I Mean, we couldn't
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: even go like thirty seconds in our lives without being
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: confronted by this propaganda for the last twenty five years.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But somehow Iran is and who is Iran fighting in Syria?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Who are they dying and who are their sportces shedding
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: blood to fight? They were fighting ISIS and al Qaeda,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: who are being armed by our governments. Yeah, they're fighting us.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So the Iranians were on the good playing for the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: good guys, and we were backing the bad guys. Okay,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: So Iran is not a state sponsor of terror. The
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: reason they say that is because they label anybody in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the Middle East, any militia, any armed liberation struggle, any
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: nationalist liberation struggle. They're labeled as terrorist by Israel if
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: they oppose Israel's hedge of money or they oppose American
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: hedge of money, and then the governments in Europe and
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the UK dutifully yes, sir, three bags full, sir, we
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: agree they're a terrorist, even though they've never conducted any
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: terrorist attacks in Europe. But they oppose Israel, so automatically
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: or go, they must be a terrorist. So we can
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: then mow ap them, we can destroy them, we can
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: kill their leaders, we can slaughter their people, and it's
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: all good because we labeled them as terrorists. The fraud
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: here is just beyond I don't want to say it
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: beyond the pale because I don't like the I just
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: recently learned the connotations of that term, which is not good,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but it's it's just beyond Mike, it's uh, this is
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: one of the key pillars of the entire fraud. And
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: people who go along with this. They labeled you terrorists
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: during COVID. You remember, do you remember.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: There's still labeling.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you want to play that game, go ahead,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and it will come back on you like a boomerang
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: like it did before. And if you're in America, I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: do want to get go into January sixth and all this.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: But the Jay sixers are all lining up wanting to bomb.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I ran, you know, these people are absolutely brain dead.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I honestly, honestly.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I thought, Mike, you might want to show because it
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: kind of fits the context to what we're talking about
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: a recent program I took party before.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: We'll do that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: We'll do that in a second, just before we before
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: we finish on this, I just want to come back
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: onto that, just very briefly. On the Christians iiist angles
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to this because sure because you know, again if you
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: haven't seen the two interviews that I did with Cliff Kerrakoff,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: who wrote a book called Dark Crusid on this, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: then Brian has done a couple of interviews on this,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: topic as well. And I'm sorry, Brian, remember the name
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: of the guy that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: You spoke to.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So I think there are four interviews on the UK
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: column website on the issue of Christian Zionism. If you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them, watch them. If you haven't read Cliff
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Karakoff's book Dark cru Sid, read it. Because this ideology,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: as with most of these dodgy ideologies, originated in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: United Kingdom. It is a British project again, and so
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you know everywhere we look we have the British deep
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: state driving these things forward. But yeah, okay, Mark, we
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: have to we have to finish in a couple of minutes.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: So tell us, tell us about this conference that you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: were part of.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, James Ruguski invited me recently. There's a slide for it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: It was Freedom Trained International, and I took part in
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: one of the discussions. There were several and each discussion
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: had James as the moderator and four or five other people.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: You can see me in the upper right corner there.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: It was on June se I did the latest one
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: that day and the basic discussion centered around not only
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: informing more people about the pandemic treaty and the international
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: health regulations and the recent World Health Assembly and what
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: might go on next year at that assembly, because we
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: learned from James that there's this provision within the treaty
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: where they can't actually sign it and finalize it for
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: up to about a year, which buys time. So the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: conference focused on what we might do to spread the
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: word and to instill more discussion and more questions about
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: what happened during the first covid ocracy and the crackdown
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: and how to prevent it from happening again. And for
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: my part, what I basically said was I was in
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: the process of contacting journalistic trade publications and journalistic organizations
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: like the Society for Professional Journalists and Independent Reporters and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Editors which is known as and probably calling journalism schools
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: like the Medill School of Journalism Northwestern just north of Chicago.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: And what I wanted to contribute, and I'm going to
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: be doing this pretty soon, is to talk to some
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: journalism professors and different people and find out why there's
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: this universal goofstepping attitude towards vaccines as if there's virtually
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: no danger, especially in vaccines that were rushed to market,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: which are not really traditional vaccines. The mRNA injections, why
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: is there this almost jack booted view that these things
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: are altogether a good thing and that anyone raising questions
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: is out of their head or a tin fat, a
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: tinfoil hat wearing person, you know, that kind of thing.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And to explore why journalists aren't asking harder questions about
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the vaccine and pharmaceutical industry. So that was my contribution
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that I'm working on, and everybody kind of made their
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: statement and their contribution to raise much more awareness about
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: what the who is doing, but also to find out
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: ways to broaden the message and find out what's going
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: on with the media dig a little harder so we
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: don't get another round of, you know, purely pro vax
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: propaganda with no descent allowed. So that's kind of what
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: went down for my part in the overall program. In fact,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: mister Ruguski invited me today to take part in another discussion.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I can make it, but he's
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: continuing this kind of ongoing conversation, so that's a very
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: positive thing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: It has been noted Mark that you are hotless.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and it wasn't that I couldn't find it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I decided not to go with the hat. It was
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: an intentional decision, It was not, Hey, where the hell's
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: my hat?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So I was just just a correction, Mike. Earlier we
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: talked about the Falklands Malvinus conflict. Britain deployed two aircraft
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: carriers during the Falklands. None of them were hit by
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: extet missiles, although they were targeted, but the missiles were
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: deflected to hit chaff and other decoys. But so, yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: they tried to think they tried to hit the h
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: mess Invincible and other ships. Two aircraft carriers weren't hit,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: but other other destroyers were. Yeah, they were so yeah interesting, yeah, yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: But the basic point though, Patrick, that these things are
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: sitting ducks is still valid with with modern missile technology.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And so anyway, yeah.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, well look we gotta we gotta leave it there
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: for today, Mark Patrick, thank you very much for joining.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Thanks everybody that's watched. That was an interesting discussion to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: say the least, and clearly you're feeling extremely motivated on
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: this topic and rightly so.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I am very motivated because I hate being
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: lectured too by so called Christians about morality and my
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Judeo Christian values that supposedly exist somewhere, but I've never
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: seen them written down anywhere.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I don't believe there's any such thing as Judeo Christian
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: value has been anyway.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: That's a whole other conversation. We've gotta leave it. Thank you,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Thank you both. Have a great.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Weekend, everybody, enjoy the weather, and we'll see it on Monday.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: See then, A Bie