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114. [Texas] Serial Killer: Daniel Lee Corwin · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Message, the True Grum Podcast.
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I don't care who is to say to. All Right, so we're back
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with this week's episode and we are going back to Texas. We're actually gonna
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be covering a serial killer this episode, Stu, which we don't always do,
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but we are. We do not. Anyways, do we have any
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life updates? Do? I'm not pregnant, thank god? Not No,
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you want to me, no, Steward, it's we've done. We've done
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enough. Okay, you've done it. Anyways. No, the baby,
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she's really good. She's sleeping six to seven hours a night. Don't hate
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me. I don't know why she is. All the children have good sleepers,
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except for the boy. He had call it until about six weeks and
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then he started sleeping well. But then he wasn't gaining enough weights and then
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we had to wake him up to feed him. It was a whole ordeal.
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Anyways, he's fine now though he's black. Ey's almost gone from from
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uh yeah yeah. And if you're on Patreon, we did. We did
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upload a photo from the Easter photos that they did so the patrons got to
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see it. But in that picture you couldn't see his black guy. But
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if you get the individual photos, you can see a little bit of the
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shiner under his side. She did a little bit, but she did.
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Wasn't gonna over edit the photos because it is. I mean, it is
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what it is. It's funny the kids do stuff like all this time,
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because that's one thing I don't really like. It's not that I don't like
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professional photos. I don't like too much of these stage photos. I'll be
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honest with you. I'm not a fan of the weird like baby poses where
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they're wrapped up and like put in flowers and look like cocoons or what like
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all the weird positions they put newborns in, you know, everything. I'm
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not such a fan of those, so I usually don't. I'm not If
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you have those photos, it's perfectly fine. I think that's great for you.
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It's just not for me. We can all have different likes and interest
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I'm sure you hate most of the things that I would like, so it's
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you know even anyways, So yes, we posted that there, but we
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wanted to think our patrons. We did have that, Like said the uptick
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last week, we noticed more people, so we appreciate you guys. So
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you can check us out there. We have buy me a coffee. We
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have oh Instagram and Facebook and be posting the April book Club pick for this
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month and then so check those out follow us there and we can read a
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book together. STU won't be reading it though, because I'm not. Besides,
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besides this podcast, I'm not sure if his reading comprehension levels. Wow,
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didn't see that one coming. Anyways, but we had something interesting happen,
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don't It was interesting. But so this guy came. So we have
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a problem in this neighborhood within the subdivision of door to door salesman specifically solar
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panels, solar panels, solar panels and is vivant what is that that's the
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Internet or something like that or vivit vivid Okay, anyways, there's two that
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are really bad. But the solar panel people are the worst. And like
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we've we've told them no before, like they'll come by and the salespeople are
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super super pushy. I mean they don't take note for an answer, they
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just keep and they're kind of like snarky back to you. So anyways,
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so this I see someone knock on the door. So our our door has
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like a little window that you can open very unsafe. With some miracle,
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we haven't been murdered yet. It's got like a little just tell everybody,
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it's got like a little latch and you can open it from the inside.
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Well, it's not any different than a window, though. Someone could break
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out a window and reach in and unlock your door too, but this one
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just happens to where you can open it and actually open the window like a
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little medieval people, you know, where you're checking the prisoners. So anyway,
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so this guy, so I opened the little window thing, and I
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look down and I see he's got he's carrying, and he's on one of
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these like hoverboard type situations. I think he was rolling in the door.
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Whatever these are, well in my like whenever I was a kid, it
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was all inline skates like rollerblades. Now I guess they're they got their hoverboards
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and their hover shoes and stuff. I think they even make hover shoes,
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maybe not sure. Anyways, he comes smoothly gliding of the front door,
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and he's doing the little weird like hover I can't see his feets. I
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don't know what's going on in there, but you know, when they're on
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the hoverboards. They're kind of moving around just so subtly to keep their balance
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or whatever. So he's gonna he's got his little briefcase thing on and you
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got the little shirt. I don't know what he was selling. And I
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immediately just tell him. I just say no. I don't say anything to
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him. I just say no. And he's like, well, you're in
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luck cause you weren't even on my list today to even try to sell anything
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to. And so he holds up a McDonald's cup and he says, I
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was just to see if I could throw this away in your trash bin.
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And I'm looking at him. I was like, okay, sure, and
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he and then he I closed the little window and he he hoverboards off or
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whatever anyway, so we still I can't even told to I said, okay,
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one he either murdered somebody and he's trying to dispose he needed a coffee
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while he was doing this as a little pick me up, and he needs
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to dispose of his evidence before he leaves the neighborhood. The coffee cups and
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murder weapon. No, but it has his DNA and he can't throw away
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in the trash can of the place where he killed the people, so he
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needs to go to a different trouse disposed of the cup was he was not
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covered in blood, but maybe maybe he Oh, I know what happened.
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He killed the salesman because he was agitated with them, stole their outfit,
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and then came a disposed of his coffee cup and the body. No,
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not the body. The body's still somewhere somewhere anyways. And then and then
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I said, well, maybe he's just using this coffee cup as a as
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a way to approach people. And Stu's like, he probably carries the coffee
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cup to every house and just says, oh, I wanted to throw us
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away and then see if we can strike up a conversation about whatever he's selling.
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But I did go out and check in our trash can after sufficient enough
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time had passed by, so I wouldn't run into him. He did actually
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throw away the coffee cup, so just throwing the loose trash in my trash
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can. So it wasn't he wasn't It wasn't a ploy to talk to people,
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but he could still be a killer. We don't know. We'll we'll
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let you, we'll update you if we have to. Testify. So I
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know, wait, I ain't got to testify nothing. You're gonna say.
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Yeah, she came in and told me about this guy. He had curly
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hair, he was wearing a coverboard. Anybody on this podcast that listen to
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that can testify just as well as I. Okay, all right, Steve,
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Well then you're not invited to my court case. Okay, fine,
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I'll be here with the children. All right. So that's what's going on
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with us today. Very exciting. So all right, so let's go ahead
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and get into our case out of Texas. And this was a serial killer
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I had never heard of, and I've heard of a lot of serial killers
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do but he was a Yes, I know, I had to watch your
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Ted Bundy show. Yeah we did watch that again, the one on Netflix.
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But all right, so mell Mellie, that's not the name. Well
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why to start this off? Mary Belle Reisinger Nay Carroll was born August twenty
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ninth, nineteen fifty one, to Wiley and Eleanora Carol in Italy, So
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there wasn't much known about Mary's past, but her family did eventually moved to
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Texas from Italy because both her parents were from Italy and everything, and Mary
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would go on to marry Joe Riisinger and they would have a daughter named Kristen
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in December of nineteen eighty three, and then they would settle in Huntsville,
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Texas and Huntsville, Texas. On October thirty first, nineteen eighty seven,
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Mary and her daughter Kristin stopped at a lot car wash to clean their car.
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Mary got out and she was spraying off the car while three year old
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Kristen played in the water spraying off the vehicle. And she was wearing a
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ballerina costume. Since, of course we're talking Halloween night and Mary is cleaning
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the car, a man pulls up in the truck in the bank next to
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them. He then approaches Mary and he quickly grabs her, and then he
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tries to pull Mary towards his vehicle, but she fights him off. Now
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this pisses the guy off, so he pulls out a knife, slits Mary's
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throat, leaves her for dead, and flees the scene. A passerby sees
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a woman lying on the ground covered in blood at the car wash. They
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called for police. I didn't put nine on one because of our discussion last
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week about nine on one about how it wasn't wildly used until later on.
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This was nineteen eighty seven. However, I still think it was still probably
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Huntsville, Texas wasn't on the cutting edge of technology. I wouldn't think Karon
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Crow Louisiana was. We had one in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, how
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do you know, because that was old enough to know about that. Oh
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what you call a nine one one? You used to have to use a
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party line? What are you talking about? Well, I mean that was
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that was in the seventies. We had a party line out there. But
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by nineteen eighty seven we had our own individual phone number. We didn't have
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to use the party line anymore. I never I never used a party line.
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You get a specific ring if it's for you. That's so weird.
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But other people can hear your conversation if they decide they want to be And
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now, oh my god, that would be no wonder. All these ladies
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knew were so so interested, stayed at home and stuff like that, they
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could listen to other people's phone calls and they never know. That was the
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Internet of the day, I guess. Yeah. Instagram and Facebook of the
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well, Instagram Facebook people just put out their own business. Yeah, this
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is true. Well, no, they don't always. Sometimes you have to
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really read between the lines. You got to start saying, oh, they
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don't have a profile picture with their husband in anymore interesting, Oh, Sally
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doesn't have a ring on in that photo. I noticed he was spending a
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lot of time with Jane over There is this person looking for a job.
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Yes, that might have came up. This is what we I know,
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all of you guys do this. You see you have mutual friends on Facebook
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or whatever, and something happens and you say, oh, did you see
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such and such They were just at that with this person. And then we
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start trying to were you reading the comments due to see if you could figure
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it out. You have to check back tomorrow see if there's more comments.
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Yeah, well I noticed there was new comments, so we're gonna have to
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check again. This isn't that interesting. Someone we knew lost their or as
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career changed for some reason. This is the level. This is the level
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we're at. We're at a miccafe in the trash can, and someone hundreds
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of miles away with the job change, and we're the house anymore, the
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house. I'm trying to convince due to let me take the children strawberry to
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pick strawberries, but he claims that's too much car ride this two hours or
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three children, it's two hours, So I can't be stuck in this house
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forever. Stew I'm starting to make up theories about those door to door salesmen.
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Okay, things are getting rough anyway, this is how the shining happened.
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Okay, So they call the police, who arrive on the scene to
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find thirty six year old Mary rising or lying face down, covered in blood,
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and she had the car wash water hose around her chest and it looked
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like that's how she had fallen you know, the hoses hang down. She
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had fallen up, so she was kind of hanging in the air up with
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it under her armpits. They then see the parked car and inside is three
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year old Kristen, So they're just complete shock because now there's this little three
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year old in a ballerina outfit inside the car. So she's obviously terrified and
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she's locked herself in the car. She's almost four. She's she was born
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in December, so she's three in October, so she's almost four. Because
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I was saying we have a three year old, and I don't know if
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she would know to lock the but back then the car locks were manual so
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and stuff, and they left their car, but there's an option. But
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they also let kids kind of run free in the cars back then too,
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you know, like ours get in the car, they're strapped in. They're
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not they can't touch anything, they're not allowed to be in the car.
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I feel like back then you'd let a they had the big old back seats
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and you could run, you could really do some stuff. Back yeah,
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this lady had a big Mary had a big car like that with the big
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back seats. I'm sure just letting the three four year old run around the
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car was a common thing. So anyway, so she's too afraid to open
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the door to let the detective in. That's that's saying, you know,
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hey, i'm it's it's the police. It's okay. So finally she agrees
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to unlock the door and an officer grabs her out. He sees that she's
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wearing a ballerina outfit, and originally he thought that the outfit was red,
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but upon closer inspection, he realizes that the outfit actually was originally white,
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but now was covered in so much of her mother's blood it had turned completely
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red. So thankfully, Kristin appeared unharmed physically by this attack. Emotionally,
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I'm sure it's damage, yeah, because a neck wound like that, like
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cutting their I mean, there's just blood everywhere. So I'm sure she went
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over to her mom trying to get her to get up and stuff on the
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side of the neck or something that. Yeah. Blood. So they took
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her to the police station while they waited for family members to come and be
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with her. And they also they showed a picture on the Forensic Files episode
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I was watching anyways, they showed a picture of her and she's just her
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hair's just got blood in it. Her arms have this is the little girl,
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blood all over all over her arms, her and then her ballerine outfits
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just completely soaked. It doesn't look white all. Yeah, hair is matted
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in blood, and she just it's disturbing. It is disturbing. I can't
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believe you picked this case. The three year old didn't die. Still sad,
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Okay, well, it gets seemed sadder. Wait till the end.
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Okay. Then, now police do assess the scene, they find no weapon
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or any other evidence to assist in finding the killer. The only witness was,
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like we said, three year old Kristen and as there was not really
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any surveillance cameras as they are nowadays back in nineteen eighty seven, and we're
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talking in a small town like Huntsville, Texas. So whatever technology they had,
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they should have had some cameras. They're the ones that have the big
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prison in Huntsville, that's the one. I remember. I told you when
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I was a kid, they took us on a scared straight phild trip.
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But it wasn't a scared straight thing. I don't think I wasn't a bad
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kid. They took the whole class. Now, my brother has been no,
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my brother has been in Jewish and he definitely went on a scared straight
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situation and it did not work. Okay, well, he didn't end up
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in prison, so he maybe got dead work. He ended up in no,
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not prison, but they did take him to the pri and he did
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go to the death row inmate situation thing like the whole thing you see where
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they're scared straight and everything. He did, however, end up in boot
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camp though, which is a was a juvenile situation where he got shipped off
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somewhere in Texas to go to boot camp for however many months or whatever.
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It was like juvenile prison boot camp. Nice. Hopefully he doesn't listen to
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this. He might, he might. He would be the one. We
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don't tell anybody. He would be the one. Though, now we know
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about four people maybe that listen to this, because we don't tell anybody.
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We literally, whenever we tell you, guys, nobody knows we do this
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podcast. Nobody knows we protect it. If we have people come over,
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we take over. We take down all the podcasting equipment. So nobody asked
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the movers whenever they moved is asked about the what'd they ask you if you
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were I'm like, dude, you shouldn't be packing this stuff because he packed
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up my clothes back. I couldn't my clothes because I told him specifically,
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don't touch any of the stuff in this row of like clothes, bags or
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podcasting stuff, none of that. Oh, and then he asked if you
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were, Well, they just it was like who's the DJ. And I'm
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like, oh, man, I ain't supposed to be grabbing that stuff.
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That's that's not supposed to get boxed up. And then I started looking for
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this other stuff, so I had to start unpacking boxes. And then I
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must have missed the one missed the fact that my clothes bag was missing.
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Okay, that has nothing to do with the point that I was saying that
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the only person that's seen the podcast equipment was the mover guy, and I
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was horrified that he saw it. Well, I was still upset my clothes
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were missing. Okay, it was a long move as it was with no
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clean clothes. I don't know. I wasn't there, Yes, you were,
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No, I wasn't there during the movie. I was off. I
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was off getting it. I came up here to sign for the house and
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all the stuff and lefts Do at home with the movers and the two children.
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Yeah, they were packing out. Yeah, but whenever we drove here,
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I didn't have that bag. And just just to clarify, we did
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not pay for movers because it's very, very expensive. Because I relocated for
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work, they provided movers because let me tell you what it's we moved something
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we had we paid someone because we didn't have any help to lift some It
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was the safe I think we moved from our our one house in town and
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just across town and it was five hundred dollars just to move the safe from
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well we swapped the appliances and that plant. No, but it's still it
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was a lot of money. It was five or six hundred dollars to move
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something less than five miles. So no, we we are definitely DIY packers.
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But thankfully where I worked, they did pay for it. We got
17:37
the met to throw away. Oh yeah, they pack everything and then they
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put stickers on stuff. So you're still fine. You turn something over even
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now and there's there's a sticker, little blue stickers and everything. Anyways,
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okay, okay, now that you sidetrack me, yeah, with your So,
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there was no there's no cameras in town, even though there's a prison.
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So I would think that you would probably want to have cameras, but
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it is a small town and they weren't as readily available as they are now.
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You can buy them off Amazon now and have a camera next day,
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and you can buy ten for the price that it cost you for one back
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when. Yeah, So, detectives interviewed people around town, but they had
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no leads. No one was coming forward with any information. There was nobody
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saying oh I heard such and such at the bar, claiming he murdered a
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woman in front of a little girl. Nothing like that, you know,
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usually they are running there, nobody that showed up with blood on their pants
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or nothing. So, with no physical evidence or witnesses to go by,
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the case quickly went cold. It would seem almost impossible to find Mary's killer
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at this point, so they would have to wait to see if the killer
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struck again, which seems like a I know, but unfortunately that's what it
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is. You see it all the time. They say, we just got
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to wait till they kill another person or try to kill another person for us
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to get a new lead, fresh leads. Yeah. So a year later,
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in October of nineteen eighty eight, a Texas A and M College student
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named Wendy Gant was walking to a car that was parked in the Kyle Field
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parking lot at lunchtime when she was approached by from behind by a man with
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a knife. Now he pushes her into the car and he quickly ties her
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up with the rope hands behind her back and then ties it off to the
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car. It seemed like he had he did this very quickly, so it
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seemed like he had done this before. Or practiced like Ted bundy'st So she
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tried to scream, but the parking lot was completely empty and the man was
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able to get in the car with her and drive off without anyone witnessing this
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abduction, which is crazy because it's a college campus. But I guess she
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was parked in a if she's at Kyle Field, which is their stadium,
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I guess for football and everything. I think. Anyways, I guess if
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she was parking there and there was no games or anything going on, she's
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probably pretty far away from the campus or anything. So the man drives Wendy
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to a rural area outside of college station. He pulls Wendy from the car
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and proceeds to rape, beat, and stab her. He then ties her
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to a tree and slits her throat. Wendy knew she could tell like this
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guy's not gonna leave unless she's actually dead, so she just completely goes limp,
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stops moving, plays dead. So she's naked, tied to a tree,
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covered in blood, stabbed, beaten, raped, throat slit, and
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just pretends to be dead, listens for him to leave his footsteps to leave
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when she feels like he's a safe distance or he's completely gone. She was
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able to untie herself despite all these injuries, and she makes it to the
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nearest roadway in a construction worker Caesar and calls for help on his radio.
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Wendy's then rushed to the hospital and Wendy amazingly she survives. She was put
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into like, I think a coma or something that untils she could heal.
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Yeah, but this is a horror movie, though, can you imagine in
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nineteen Well, the other one happened on Halloween night, which is creepy.
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This one, this is you're standing by a this is around Halloween again,
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You're out working on the road, and it really is out of a horror
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movie. A girl naked covered in blood comes stumbling out to the roadway and
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you're just like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's creepy. As police
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are looking into the attack and attempted murder of Wendy, they talk to other
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police departments in the surrounding areas. They see a lot of similarities between Wendy's
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case and Mary's from a year earlier in Huntsville, which is just about an
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hour away from College station. They also find out about two other rapes and
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murders that were unsolved. The first bean was Alice Martin. The first being
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was the first being human being. The first bean Alice Martin. On February
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thirteenth, nineteen eighty seven, seventy two year old Alice was taking her daily
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walk along a farm to market road in Norman g Texas. I've never heard
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of it, neither of you know. When I grew up in Texas,
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and there's so many towns in Texas, it's just impossible to have heard them
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all. It's just too much going on. But a farm to market road,
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that's kind of a you wouldn't have a lot of traffic on a farm
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to market road. Those are called fm rowans, people that are not from
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around here anyway. So Normangy is about forty five minutes from Huntsville in one
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direction and College Station in almost like a triangle with each other. Norman GY's
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up at the top, hunts Falls down to the side at the bottom and
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then over and it makes like a triangle. So whoever this is is working
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in this area, but they're they're going an hour or so away, just
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enough to for it not to be on everybody regular jurisdiction. Yeah, this
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isn't like I said, this is nineteen eighty seven. There's nobody posting on
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Facebook about this savage murder in Huntsville, and then people saying oh over in
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Normangy, like, oh, yeah, who we can. They don't have
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internet in Normangy. You don't think they have it right now. No,
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we're going to hear about it if they do. Now is what Alice is
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walking, She is approached by a man in a vehicle and she is abducted.
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The man then drove her to a more remote area in nearby Robertson County,
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where he proceeds to rape her in his vehicle. He then strangles her
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with an item and stabbed her four times in the back, leaving her there
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to die. Her body was discovered the next day, and police had very
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little leads on the murder and the case went cold pretty quickly. Yeah,
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so we know this information obviously because I mean, we're telling your story because
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they found out who did this. But at the time, whenever they all
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they came upon was her body and they had no other information. They don't
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even know how she got there, nothing or anything. So at the time
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they're just a stranger rebduction, thrown her into a field, raped and murdered
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her and thrown her into a field away from her home. I mean it's
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they probably had a probably took them a while to even I d her,
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you know. So the second rape and murder was twenty six year old Deborah
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Ewing on July tenth, nineteen eighty seven. So this was so Alice was
23:57
murdered in February of nineteen. Deborah is murdered in July of nineteen eighty seven.
24:03
And then whenmember we our first murdered Mary was in October of nineteen eighty
24:07
seven. So this is quick. He's quickly hitting doing this. This is
24:12
every couple months. He's starting to escalate. Yes, So in July tenth,
24:18
Deborah was leaving the Vision Center in Huntsville, Texas, where she was
24:21
abducted at gunpoint. That was a bird. You can hear the birds outsides.
24:25
Do the birds are chirping at springtime? Deborah was taken to a undeveloped
24:30
subdivision in Montgomery County, which is just south of Huntsville, which I think
24:34
it's over in. I think it was over in that Conroe type area.
24:38
So you might be living if you living Conra, you might be living in
24:42
the subdivision. Where she was murdered. We don't know. I don't know
24:45
where exactly where it's at, So just saying be careful, you know,
24:51
be careful. Yes, Now, she was rape, strangled, and stabbed.
24:56
Her body was discovered two days later. Now, during this investigation of
25:00
the murder of Deborah, a man named Daniel Corwin was interviewed. He was
25:06
a cabinet and saw her that had worked at the Vision Center that day.
25:08
This on some cabinets they were having put in. Now Corwin had a serious
25:14
criminal pass. So with Deborah they did have a little bit more to go
25:17
on because she was taken from a poor parking lot, from a business.
25:22
There's people that interact with her just before this happened, and this guy happened
25:26
be one of them. So Corwin. In nineteen seventy five, he had
25:30
abducted a fellow classmate named Brenda. He pushed her into her vehicle and then
25:34
took her to a rural area. And this is all in high school,
25:38
raped her, stabbed her, and then flit her throat like this is in
25:41
high school. This guy did this? Why is he out? So Brenda,
25:47
she did survive, thankfully, and was able to get some help.
25:49
Now, in the ambulance. The first thing she told police was that Daniel
25:52
Corwin did this. Now Brenda survives the attack and Korn was arrested and charged
25:57
with kidnapping, rape, and attempted murder. He was sentenced to forty years
26:02
with the chance of pearl. Supposedly this was nineteen seventy five. People were
26:07
saying, oh, well, Brenda was loose, did he really rape her,
26:11
take her or did this just they were doing something? And I know,
26:15
I'm just saying there was a lot about like she went, she's getting
26:19
sabbed. The Korun guy was involved with this church, this presby the Presbyterians,
26:26
the Presbyterian Church, and supposedly they came to bat for him and said,
26:32
oh, well he's a really good guy and everything that, and that's
26:33
how we ended up with forty years with the chance of pearl from this attack,
26:38
because they did say she was loose and stuff, and so I think
26:41
they were trying to paint the picture that she willingly, yes, she willingly
26:45
went with him. And then at when they were out there, then all
26:48
of a sudden things got out of hand, which I don't know how slitting
26:51
someone's throat is just getting out of hand. But whatever, this is nineteen
26:56
seventy five. Some stupid shit happened, you know, with things like that
27:00
back then, Soway. So due to overcrowding, which we just had this
27:06
in the last case. Remember there was all those rules about getting out of
27:10
prison, even when the guy that killed the two women was able to get
27:15
out of prison after seven years, even though he'd been on like free for
27:18
thirty something years while they were trying to solve that. So he happened to
27:21
be arrested at this time and convicted during this overcrowding in Texas. And so
27:26
after just nine years he was let out of prison because he was up.
27:30
He had this parole hearing and they let him out. Now, due to
27:33
this history, Korun was as prime suspect in the raper murder or Deborah.
27:37
However, when interviewed by police, he gave a strong alibi and they said
27:41
he just didn't appear to be guilty according to him. And again again this
27:45
is like the stupid thing where the police maybe it's a small town and they're
27:48
just like, oh, well, he seems like a nice guy. He
27:51
doesn't look like a serial killer. So anyways, so he was and they
27:55
didn't really go into his alibi or whatever. But they said he did have
27:57
an alibi is let go on, which obviously if they looked further into it
28:02
it would have fallen through. But whatever, so he was let go as
28:06
they had no other evidence against him. Yeah, if they would have followed
28:10
up on his alibi, they would have found out he was lying and go,
28:11
why is that some bitch lying? Yeah, but he didn't seem like
28:15
he seemed real put together and calm and wasn't upset about being accused of murdering
28:22
Deborah. While police are looking into these other murders, Wendy wakes up and
28:26
the first thing that she wants is a pen and paper. She cannot speak
28:30
because her throat has been split so deeply. She writes down that someone needs
28:36
to feed her horse and get her a sketch artist. Sure, what do
28:40
you read that? Like? You're this is how you can tell Stuke had
28:42
nothing to do with It's like feed horse. That's not a euphemism. No,
28:49
she apparently had a horse and she woke up very concerned that nobody was
28:52
taking care of the horse. So she's like the first thing she wrote was
28:56
someone go feed my horse, and then the second thing was, I need
29:00
to get me a sketch artist because she's like, I'm gonna catch this motherfucker
29:02
who did this to me. Police bring in a forensic sketch artist, and
29:07
this was going to be a difficult task. However, since Wendy could not
29:11
speak, they had to do all this sign language basically to communicate. Well
29:15
not sign language, dude, Well she didn't know sign language, paper,
29:19
not actual sign language. But she had to shake her head, shake her
29:23
head. No, she was She could just cat a piece of paper and
29:30
she would write down. She didn't have to learn sign language to communicate with
29:33
the woman. She could still write just like she wrote, I could feed
29:37
my horse. So no, she didn't need sign language too. Okay,
29:41
that's what you're going with, Yeah, okay, So anyway, so they
29:45
go through this process. They spent hours working on this sketch, but they
29:49
were able to come up with a very clear sketch of the man that she
29:55
believed had attacked her. So she believes that this is the person, a
30:00
very good image of that person. Police release the sketch and within an hour
30:06
they had a tip. It came from a corrections officer at a local prison
30:11
and the sketch looked just like a former inmate he had seen by the name
30:14
of Daniel Corwin. Yes, so the same guy that was questioned in Debora's
30:19
murder. So with this information, they bring Corwin in for an interview and
30:25
he denies any involvement and he's let go as the police have no evidence against
30:30
him. They kind of fo him around a little bit. They take photos
30:32
and everything. They just can't find anything. They provide a lineup for Wendy
30:37
to pick from, and she does pick out Korn's photo, but she's not
30:41
one hundred percent sure it is him, so they just can't go off of
30:44
her identifying him. It's just not solid, a solid choice. She didn't
30:48
say that's you know, like the time I picked someone up from a lightehupster.
30:52
She wasn't certain like I was, So tell us that story one day.
30:56
It's all I have, Stuart. That isn't salesman Kelly Clarkson. Oh,
31:02
and Kelly Clarkson, I forgot that's Avidence's Amanda Bynes too. Oh I
31:07
did meet Amanda Bynes, didn't I say that? I think so? Yeah.
31:11
We were watching Quiet on the set and I met Amanda Bynes. Oh,
31:15
yeah, I talked about that last time, so all right. So
31:18
they do present what they have to the DA, which is basically, hey,
31:22
we know it's this guy, and they're like, you guys don't have
31:26
any actual evidence, so we can't you can't just say we know it's him.
31:30
We just knows. This defense attorney is going to eat us home.
31:32
Yeah, So they're like, you got to come back with some actual hard
31:36
evidence or we can't file charges against this guy. So police go back out
31:40
in the community and they continue to interview people to try to get some more
31:44
information about Daniel Corwin. So the police speak to the man who owned the
31:49
cabinet store where Corwyn worked and had been and he had been suspicious of Corwin.
31:55
He had hired him after meeting him at the present when he was serving
31:57
time. The owner wasn't serving time, but he had volunteered there at the
32:02
prison so that he could teach inmates woodworking skills that they could use on the
32:07
outside, which is a which is a good So watching we've been watching a
32:12
lot of lock Up, okay, or I have, and Steve's been having
32:15
to suffer through it, yes, anyways, and it is good, like
32:17
they're they're teaching him to weld, uh lot and cook and bake and and
32:23
so they can automotive woodwork and yeah, and it's great and all, but
32:28
I don't give a fuck about teaching a rapist and a murderer or tempted murder.
32:31
I mean he basically, I never understand attempted murder charges. You tried
32:37
to kill the person, she slit her throat, He had every intention of
32:40
her being murdered. Why he should get a shorter sentence because he didn't,
32:44
he failed at it. I don't understand. But I don't. I don't
32:46
want to teach a rapist and a murderer a skill because you know what,
32:50
he should never be out of prison in the first place. So this guy's
32:52
got a soft spot for this Corwin guy, which just agitates me because I
32:58
understand like helping the mates, and I think it's a good thing. But
33:00
there's people that you can't help, and this is one of them. Pedophiles
33:05
and ripens, yes, and murders. You can't help them, Well,
33:07
depends on why they murdered. Yes, yeah, it's murders a murky thing.
33:12
Yes, why you're just setting that up for your defense? Yes,
33:16
I see how it is. Now they we had our reasons. Sometimes you
33:21
have your reasons. Like the guy who murders you know, someone who rapes
33:24
his daughter, kills their child, and they go and murder the guy.
33:28
I'm okay with it. I'm fine with that. Yeah, they don't even
33:31
need to go to trial. Yeah, I we're good. Or like the
33:35
guy that the drunk driver who killed that Remember the guy the dad showed up
33:39
or something on the scene and he killed the drunk driver that killed his kids
33:45
or something in the car and everything like that. So yeah, well,
33:51
you know, comes around, goes around. Yeah, anyway, getting back
33:54
to our story, when women began being murdered in the area, he quickly
34:00
suspected Corwin was doing it, but he didn't notify police let him know anything.
34:06
Yeah, he's in Huntsville with the with so Deborah, he's interviewed.
34:12
Corwin Goes is interviewed in Debora's murder. They worked a job at the Vision
34:15
center. And the guy is like, Eh, this seems a little sketchy
34:20
because I know I know Corwin's history and stuff, but he still gives him
34:23
the benefit of the doubt because the police he's going to come looking for him.
34:28
I don't know, No, I think this guy's just got a soft
34:30
spot for inmates and he's taken it to There's always extremes, and this guy's
34:32
taking it to the extreme personally, is what I think. Well, police
34:38
do find him and they do speak to him about Corwin, and he said
34:42
he recalls Corwin coming into work the day after Halloween when Mary was murdered,
34:46
and he had scratches on his hands, but that is the only thing that
34:50
he can remember from that time period. The owner did eventually let Corwin go
34:54
as he felt uneasy about having him work there with so many missing women.
34:59
Well, pishment right there. Guy lost his job. Way to go.
35:02
I know he'll never murder again. He lost his job. How will he
35:05
ever way to go? Corwin's boss, Well, they gave a name,
35:08
but I don't know if that's that. You know, sometimes they change the
35:12
names in the deck to protect the assholes. I don't know. So we're
35:15
not gonna throw We're not throw the name out there. But so when reviewing
35:20
the evidence from Wendy's case, so you know, they're talking to people in
35:23
town and everything. That the other step is they've got to go back and
35:25
try to see if there's any evidence that they miss so they're reviewing the evidence
35:30
and they now that they've kind of zoned in on Corwin. They had recovered
35:35
a single fingerprint on the driver's side door of her car that didn't belong to
35:38
Wendy. Now now that they have somebody to match it to, there are
35:42
hopes that this will be that big brick break in the case. So they
35:45
have to mel the fingerprint in and it goes off to the police station where
35:49
Corwin was arrested back in nineteen seventy five in his juvenile record to see if
35:53
it was a match. Now it would take a few days, but they
35:57
called back and said it was a match, and they finally had that solid
36:00
evidence linking Corwin to Wendy because there's no reason that his fingerprint should be on
36:05
her car at all. There's absolutely he didn't say, oh yeah, I
36:07
talked to her, nothing like that. He shouldn't have been there. Now,
36:10
with this information, they were able to arrest coryn on rape and attempted
36:15
murder charges of Wendy, And with all this evidence against him, he ends
36:19
up pleading guilty to those crimes and was sentenced to ninety nine years. Detectives
36:22
continued to press Korwin, trying to get him to finally admit to the other
36:27
crimes that they believed he had committed. Finally, a detective brings him to
36:30
the crime scenes, specifically the murder scene of Mary Risinger. The detective said
36:37
he kind of went into a trance and began telling him exactly what happened,
36:40
point after point. Basically he did this for all three murders, and they
36:45
finally had their confessions that they needed to close these three cases. And apparently
36:50
he the detective that took Corwyin around. He told him, he said,
36:53
Hey, you know you telling me all this, I'm going to be on
36:55
the stand testifying against you, trying to get you put to death. And
36:59
he said, I'm aware that he knew the game was over. This was
37:04
Dan He might not want to spend ninety nine years in jail, yeah,
37:07
or however long it took him. The croak off behind prison. Yeah,
37:10
because when you're put in seg which is segregation, because I've learned that from
37:15
lock up, it's rough, you know, especially if you get put on
37:19
suicideal watch or anything at that they take everything away from you. You only
37:22
get your mattress, I believe for it's taken away like five am in the
37:29
morning, depending on the prison or whatever. Anyway, So yeah, seg
37:32
is difficult because you're locked up twenty three hours a day. You only get
37:36
one hour of yard times too. I don't even get that. No,
37:40
anyway, Corn was charged with the murders of Alice, Deborah, and Mary,
37:45
and in nineteen ninety he was convicted of the capital murderers. He was
37:50
sentenced to death, and he was executed on December seventh, nineteen ninety eight,
37:54
by lethal injection, which, by today's standard, seems pretty quick to
37:58
go from conviction to sentence being carried out in a death penalty. I guess
38:02
he waved all his appeals on the He must have just I'm not sure,
38:07
but he must have just been like, let's go, kind of like that
38:10
old Oklahoma bombing guy McVay. He denied any appeals, he waved all those
38:17
appeals. Yeah, he was like, let's do this. Well, he
38:22
blew up a freaking daycare. I mean, no, that was terrible.
38:25
I mean, it's bad when you kill people, but when you kill children
38:30
and discriminately and just kill everyone, I mean, thankfully he apparently he never
38:34
saw the three year old that was running around. He didn't really see her,
38:37
and so thankfully nothing happened to him because he's a cycle, ain't I
38:39
tell him what he would have done? Yeah, So, but that's so
38:45
anyway, So Kristen, the little girl that was Mary's daughter, that was
38:51
covered in blood and witness all this, so you would think that nothing else
38:53
bad could happen to you because this is like, yeah, this is like
38:58
one of the worst things I could have happened, and so you would think
39:00
nothing else happened. So I'm like looking up information about this case, and
39:05
I find out that Kristen actually so she had three or four children, married,
39:09
three or four children, live in normal life everything that anyway, she
39:14
died at thirty four in twenty eighteen. She died from a What happened was
39:20
a she was riding along with her. It was someone related to her because
39:22
they had the last name rising her and both of the women were killed.
39:25
But there was a just to end this on a make this even worse anyway,
39:31
So she's driving along an eighteen wheeler, had a blowout, it crossed
39:36
the media and hit him head on, and she she died at the age
39:37
of thirty four. So just terrible. All around. Everything's terrible and nothing
39:42
is good. This is why we don't leave the house now. Stuw's never
39:45
going to let me take the children. Yeah, yeah, you want me?
39:47
You want me to put the children in a van drive for two hours
39:50
to pick strawberries. When I a van, what do you think we're taking
39:53
them? Oh, we have to. The problem is is that we didn't
39:57
prepare for this, so we do not have a vehicle large to carry all
40:00
these things. We do. We do have it, it's Stew's truck,
40:02
but truck it's kind of old. So we have to take two separate cars
40:07
and it's a tight like it'll fit the three car seats across the back,
40:10
but it's gonna be all our baggage will have to go on the open bed.
40:15
And in fact, so if we ever do any trips or road trips,
40:17
we're gonna actually have to at this point rent a mini van to go
40:22
and do that. We're gonna have to rent vehicles we think we might want
40:24
in the future and find out which one way to want. Yeah, I'm
40:27
just we you know, it's just a lot to go and get another vehicle
40:31
that's a car payment, that's yeah, we don't have any car payments.
40:36
We don't have any car payments right now, like we just drive older vehicles,
40:38
so our cars are paid off, so we would we so we need
40:44
to save all that money to purchase another car and everything in minivans. You
40:49
know, the car market day, everything's up, so everything's just expensive,
40:53
and a mini van's expensive. But that's really what we probably need as a
40:57
minivan, sadly, because they are the easiest. So maybe we'll just rent
41:00
some cars, go on some trips, try out some vehicles, see what
41:05
we like. But we ultimately know that the minivan's probably gonna be the I
41:08
don't think we're gonna be able to get away as much as i'd like an
41:13
suv. Yes, it'll fit the amount of people that we have. However,
41:15
I know it's much more difficult to get them in, especially at this
41:21
age, because you have to help each one of them get in their car
41:23
seat. They can't they can't do anything on their owner at this point.
41:27
So it's like you can send like the seven year old, be like,
41:30
hey, buckle yourself up back there while you deal with the other two or
41:31
anything at that let's go. Yeah, we have they're not old enough to
41:36
put them to work yet helping us. So anyways, so yeah, I
41:42
guess my strawberry picking after this, I'm not gonna be allowed to go.
41:45
I'm just in prison here my little window. It's sick. Stu keeps hitting
41:52
the microphone because he's unprofessional. That's a problem. Well, the problem is
41:57
is we still haven't so we've unpacked our entire house. But as you can
42:00
imagine, the one room that has been neglected is the office one where we
42:06
record the podcast and everything. So it's a disaster. So we're just like
42:09
crammed in here with all of our ship that needs to be unpacked and set
42:13
up. If we could probably be more comfortable in our closet, if just
42:16
that remember the closet days anybody been around, we sat in our closet.
42:22
Yeah, there, he's just set in our closet. Oh we should we
42:28
could record in our closet. Yeah, I think there's an air condition event
42:30
in this closet. Oh is there? So you know we could we could
42:34
record in the closet, and that way we could it'd be quieter maybe,
42:39
I don't know, but then we'd had to set up in the closets.
42:43
That would suck. Anyways, all right, so thank you for listening this
42:46
week's episode. Stew, do you have a y'all need Jesus? Of course
42:50
I do. Okay, Well, people are doing stupid shit all the time,
42:52
everywhere everywhere. Yeah, I know, I witness it daily in this
42:55
household. Wow, I'm sure you're talking about me and not the children.
42:59
I would just like to add the vehicle that we have, Stew's truck.
43:06
It can safely fit all through him. It's just a pain and ass to
43:07
put him in. I don't want people to think we're just gonna put him
43:10
because we're cheap, We're just gonna put him in cram all the children.
43:15
Do you not understand? Do you know? I swear to God I talked
43:16
to Stu, and it's like I literally didn't have the conversation. I came
43:21
in. We had this whole conversation earlier about the guy, the Seales guy
43:24
in the cup, and then we had ten conversations in between them. Oh,
43:27
it wasn't that long. I waited about an hour and then I went
43:30
out and checked the thing and I came back in. I said, Oh,
43:31
the cup's in the graa, in the trash bin or whatever, and
43:36
he's like the cup what are you talking about? I'm like, are you
43:37
fucking kidding me? Right now? If I said the dirt was wet,
43:42
you'd be like, what are you talking about? The dirt sweat? Anyways,
43:44
he's looking because I told you I went on. I planted those damn
43:47
sun hitting your microphone. I'm throwing my hands around in frustration at you.
43:52
Okay, well stop moving. Nobody can see your sign language. God,
43:57
is this over yet? Anyway? I just want to say Stu's truck is
44:00
very safe. It is a very old truck though. Into you know,
44:02
this is when you know old. No, it is old. Whenever you
44:06
think you're whenever you whenever you yes, that's we're getting old because we don't
44:12
realize that it's twenty twenty four. So that is a old truck. That's
44:15
a seventeen year old truck. That's an old truck. It's the first year
44:20
that came out with that body style. I understand what I'm saying. It's
44:22
an older truck. So I don't know if it necessarily we want to take
44:25
it on long road trips because it may or may not survive. It's not
44:30
driven that often. I have a a like a little rab four, but
44:34
it's not gonna it only fits two children in it. But Stu's truck can
44:37
safely fit all three children. It's just a pain in the ass because it
44:39
obviously there's no space to put them in, Like you have to maneuver to
44:44
get them all in there so to actually put them in the car seats.
44:47
But it is big enough. I just want to be clear, do you
44:50
fail vindicated now that you got to finally because you felt like somebody was shaming
44:53
you. I feel like people are like, oh, they're so cheap,
44:54
they don't even buy a safe vehicle for the all three of the child.
44:58
But we do have a safe vehicle. It's just that it's not convenient to
45:01
get them. Just like I would like a Toyota Highland or the New Big
45:06
Ones or whatever, I can't remember what they're called, but they have a
45:07
third row and everything. I think that would be great, But the problem
45:10
is that's not convenient get at all that. Yeah, probably not going to
45:15
be convenient. Yeah, getting my fat ass up there in the Texas heat,
45:21
trying to like sweat and be sweating and everything. No, it's not
45:24
for me anyways. Are you sure? All right? So let's just do
45:27
this y'all need Jesus. Now that I've spoken, mind, have you gotten
45:32
it all out what I needed to do? Yes? All right, this
45:36
is coming to us from w k MG. It's really fun. A woman
45:43
had missed a shoplifting while playing a game of twenty one Florida or not Florida.
45:49
What's twenty one? Well you'll find out when I read the story Florida
45:54
Sandford woman, which is in Florida. Flagler County, Florida. A Sandford
46:01
woman was arrested earlier this week after deputy said she admitted to walking out of
46:06
a Palm Coast Walmart. That sounds like a nice Walmart. Palm coast to
46:09
sunny, sandy palm trees. Everywhere Florida is a facade steward. It'll suck
46:15
you in and then spitch you out. Okay, Now, I like Florida
46:19
via a hurricane. This is true. The hurricanes ain't no joke. Now.
46:23
She was come out of the Palm Coast Walmart with a shopping cart full
46:27
of stolen goods, according to Flagler County Sheriff's Office. Deputy said they were
46:31
called to the business Monday around six twenty six pm to investigate a reported theft.
46:37
Actually, this is coming to us from March twenty eight, so just
46:39
a week or so ago. According to the Sheriff's office. Caller explained that
46:44
the woman later identified as Amber McCann, aged thirty, had passed all points
46:49
of sale and refused to show her receipt for a cart full of items.
46:52
McCann reportedly moved the approximately one thousand and thirty dollars worth of merchandise to a
46:58
vehicle before fleeing on foot after realizing someone was watching her. So she put
47:04
it all on a vehicle and then ran on foot and then ran away from
47:07
the car that she put her in. That's not doesn't make any sense.
47:10
Jesus, they didn't say she was a smart thing. You forgot about my
47:14
story about I've always told multiple times about my time that I stopped those shoplifters
47:19
at Walmart and then the Walmar. So she took it, took credit for
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it, and got their photos in the newspaper the next day. Well this
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was Kara, said, They said. Kara noticed these people. Now I'm
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kidding now. Upon arrival, deputy said they found the vehicle, which still
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had the stolen items in the back seat. They then spotted a woman walking
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toward the store. Okay, this is so stupid. Yeah, it's so
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dumb. So this girl throws the stuff in a car, runs away from
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her car, and now she's walking back and she's just gonna casually go back
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to the car and forget that someone was shopling this weird experience. They just
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lady that left that would not show us a receipt has come back in to
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retree for her vehicle and all the stolen goods. Yes. So, after
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deputies made contact with the McCanns, she admitted that she had carried a loaded
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cart full of stolen island I can't even read stolen items to a car,
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claiming that it was just a random car she found that was open. But
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was it a Oh it's a Grand Highlander. That's the car, Grand Highlander.
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It's the big one with the third rosie. Are you not paying attention
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to my star? Are you looking on the internet looking at new car?
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Oh, it just hit me. She also claimed that she stuck her purse
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inside when she saw a law law enforcement arriving. So what this woman is
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saying and she just stuck random stolen, her stolen goods and her purse into
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her random car in the parking lot that was unlocked, Yes, conveniently.
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Conveniently okay, and it's still there when she came back. Because most people
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don't spend hours in a Walmart unless they're employed there or got problems. What
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kind of problems do where they just hang around on Walmart shopping? Okay,
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well that's a different type of person. I've seen those women do it at
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the targets. Target's a very different situation than a Walmart Stewart. I think
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they're about the same thing. No Target has a wonderful book section has a
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Starbucks in it, and apparently you can go get free refills at the Starbucks,
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and you can get coffees at the mccafes, and the Walmarts a McCafe
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steward, unless it's a French McCafe then no we we yes, Now those
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are nice. The ones in France are nice. See, that's what we
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spend money on. His trips. We forego having nice cars so we can
49:42
go on trips. One of those one of those we just went on a
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cruise. People are gonna be like ago, it was not a year ago,
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it was seven or eight months ago. Anyway, According to investigators,
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McCann told them she was playing a game called twenty one, which involves a
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person grabbing as much merchandise as they can from a store and walking out without
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paying for it. Unless you're twenty one, you shouldn't be playing this.
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I mean, you shouldn't even be playing when you're twenty one. But it's
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more acceptable for a twenty one year old to do this than a thirty year
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old woman. Well, thirty is the new twenty one. I guess I
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can all the while trying not to get caught. So I'm only like twenty
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two then, right, yeah, something like that. Well I did it
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one other time and this time, but I got caught this time. I
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don't know what mccan is trying to say here, because that's word for word
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what she supposedly said. McCann can be heard saying in the body camera footage
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released by the Sheriff's office. So now I've got to figure out where my
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purse is and where my merchandise is, because now I've got to give all
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my merchandise back to Walmart. It's not your merchandise. No, you never
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paid for it. She's like, I played a game and I won,
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though it was a twenty one game. Well, it's not really a game,
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the deputy tells her, it's a game. McCann responds to you,
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states the dept. That's theft. It's it's fun at too, It's really
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fun. McCann replies, Oh, going to jail is fun. The deputy
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says, this woman, I swear. McCann was taken into custody, though
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she soon changed her story and said that the car hadn't been random, but
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in fact belonged to her boyfriend. My boyfriend doesn't know that I steal,
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and he doesn't know that I put all this shit in the car neither,
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McCann says, So I'm going to really be in trouble with him. But
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that's the thing. While removing the stolen merchandise from the car, deputy discovered
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a partially burnt marijuana cigarette inside the vehicles center console investigator said. In addition,
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they also found a digital scale hashish, a glass pipe with burned residue,
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and empty baggies of marijuana, meta amphetamine, and something called al prazolamb
51:55
Inside of the la car, deputies found several one ounce silver bars and rounds,
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copper bars, and one grand platinum bar. What the hell, she's
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played twenty one at the pawnshop too. Ain't no telling what she got on.
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She was ultimately arrested and faces charges of grand theft, marijuana, possession,
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hash she's possession al fraz Alan has she hashes, possession of drug peffer
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and paraphernalia, and trafficking in meta amphetamine. She is being held on a
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bond of thirty four thousand dollars. If she really thought she was playing a
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shoplifting game, she lost to our deputies and observant citizen. Sheriff Ricky Staley
52:37
said, yet again, they see something, say something, called it that
52:40
blah blah blah. Anyway, well and Walmart, it's definitely in press charges
52:44
they pressed. The Walmart makes money when they because they get restitution and then
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the purpse got to pay the restitution of the store. So she was a
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drug addict basically, that's playing games. I don't know if she was high
52:55
when she was doing this, but she's definitely stupid. You don't know.
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You don't go shoplifting when you got drugs on you, in your car,
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none of that. If it's not an escape plan, especially if you're gonna
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go shoplifting, you just want to be popped for shoplifting if you get caught
53:09
anyways, I will. As Dove mentioned, I've been watching a lot of
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lock Up. That's been my show the last couple of weeks, and I
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think of all the people that I feel sorry the most for, it's the
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people that are addicted to drugs that you that go in there, because they
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seem like such nice, normal people when they're in and they're off off the
53:27
drugs, but they just can't kick the addiction. And it just is really
53:30
sad because they just keep coming back in because they they just can't. They
53:35
get clean in prison, and then they are in jail and then they are
53:37
back out on the streets and they do it again and everything. But I
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mean, our children, they can all of it. I'd rather them come
53:45
home with a teen pregnancy or or drop out of high school or something.
53:51
As long as they don't come up with a drug addiction. It's like anything
53:53
else you can overcome, you know, killers, yeah, yeah, or
53:58
you probably like that. Then you can do podcast. I could be on
54:00
a dateline episode, I could be on it Evil Lives here. There's a
54:04
lot of options for me. I could write a book, be like I
54:07
knew that one. We'll just make this whole podcast about it. Yep,
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when she walked in there with that knife and wanted to stab that rum,
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but I knew something. That little girl, That little girl's crazy. All
54:16
right. Well that's our episode for this week, and anything else you'd like
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to add to. I think I've done enough. Okay, someone knocked on
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our door and ring our doorbell. Wellgo, they probably could hear it,
54:25
so we'll see what's happening. There must be a package, No, Stewart,
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I don't want your package, all right, So I guess we will
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see you guys next time. By everyone, say bye, Stu. Tell't
54:37
you know it's bad to be super stag shot midnapping? Else is working.
54:50
It's sick this worry