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Full Show Podcast: 13 June 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge on an early edition with Expole insulation keeping
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Speaker 2: Kimi Holmes warm and dray This winter news talks that'd
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Speaker 2: be good morning.
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Speaker 3: You're on news talks have been credible pictures of this
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Speaker 3: and out of Indea, of this Air India flight crashing,
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Speaker 3: bursting into a ball of flames. More than two hundred
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Speaker 3: people have died and one British guy survives, filmed walking
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Speaker 3: away pretty much unscathed. Incredible stuff. The CEO, by the
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Speaker 3: way here India is a new Zealander. We'll look at
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Speaker 3: this shortly.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 3: What else are we doing this morning? Vincent mcavinie in
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Speaker 3: the UK for us you'll have more on that. The
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Speaker 3: prison population about to spike. Are we actually ready for it?
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Speaker 3: We'll check in with the ski slope ski season kicking
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Speaker 3: off this weekend and is Orcus on the rocks the
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Speaker 3: agenda Friday thirteenth June first to take you to this
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Speaker 3: Air India plane crash. At least two hundred of died.
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Speaker 3: As I said, was a London bound jet had two
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Speaker 3: hundred and forty two on board total.
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Speaker 5: I was sitting at home. There was a loud noisey.
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Speaker 5: It felt like an earthquake. I came out and saw smoke.
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Speaker 5: I didn't know it was a plane crash. Then I
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Speaker 5: came here and then I found out and I saw
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Speaker 5: the crash plane. There were many bodies lying on the ground.
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Speaker 3: Here's the local police chief on that surviving passenger.
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Speaker 6: Very tragic and very very horrific, and even till now,
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Speaker 6: I have to say, I'm in a state of shock.
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Speaker 6: I can only think about the passengers, their families, what
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Speaker 6: they might be going through now.
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Speaker 3: The US to the Middle East is having its embassy
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Speaker 3: staff evacuated from Iraq because of fears about Iran. The
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Speaker 3: rumors are Israel's ready to launch an operation on Iran,
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Speaker 3: and I ran might strike back by hitting a Raq.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: They are being moved out because it could be a
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Speaker 3: dangerous place and we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 7: But they are better.
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Speaker 1: We've given notice to move out. We'll see what happens.
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Speaker 3: And Sir Paul McCartney has paid tribute to Beach Boys
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Speaker 3: frontman Brian Wilson, who died yesterday at the age of
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Speaker 3: eighty two. He says he loved him and that he
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Speaker 3: had that mysterious sense of musical genius that made his
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Speaker 3: songs so achingly special.
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Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 2: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge at expol Insulation, keeping
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Speaker 2: Kiwi Holmes ward and dry.
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Speaker 1: This winter News Talk, sa'd be.
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Speaker 3: He's gone eight after five year on news Talk said,
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Speaker 3: but we'll get to Halen Clark on UCUS. I mean
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Speaker 3: assuming that she will be happy about this, because she's
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Speaker 3: not a great proponent of it, not a great supporter
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Speaker 3: of it. Neither is Don Brash. We had him on
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Speaker 3: the show the other day and it could be toast
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Speaker 3: Trump's reviewing it with the America first lens, and we
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Speaker 3: know what that means everyone else. Second. This plane crash
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Speaker 3: out of India, a western India, a Madabad, it's called
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Speaker 3: it was. The airline is run by a Campbell Wilson
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Speaker 3: who's a Kiwi and we lived in Christchurch from christ Church,
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Speaker 3: grew up there. Used to work for Scoot, which is
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Speaker 3: if you've been on Singapore airlines there basically Jetstar subsidiary,
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Speaker 3: the cheapest subsidiary. He used to work for them, and
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Speaker 3: now he is the boss of Air India. It is
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Speaker 3: a big job and today he is a busy man,
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Speaker 3: as you can imagine because the requests are coming in
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Speaker 3: thick and fast, and he's trying to get a handle
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Speaker 3: on the situation of just looking at his social media.
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Speaker 3: The fascinating and sad part of this story is that
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Speaker 3: the whole thing's caught on video, as it often is
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Speaker 3: these days. But there's a guy that survives. British guy
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Speaker 3: that survives and just walks away from this plane, holds
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Speaker 3: up his ticket, completely unscathed ticket. You see the video.
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Speaker 3: The plane's flying low and then crashes into buildings, big
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Speaker 3: ball of flames. This guy walks away. Sad part. Reporters
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Speaker 3: have got to his family over in the UK. His
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Speaker 3: brother was on board and obviously he doesn't know where
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Speaker 3: his brother is right now. Anyway, we'll bring you more
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Speaker 3: on that. Vincent mcavinie on the show just before six
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Speaker 3: this morning, just gone ten away from Halling Clark next
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Speaker 3: the news.
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Speaker 2: You need this morning and the in depth analysis earlier
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Speaker 2: this year with Brian Bridge and ex Bowl installation keeping
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Speaker 2: we Holmes warm and dry.
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Speaker 1: This winter news talks, they'd be.
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Speaker 3: Good morning on your Friday. We'll talk to Helen Clark
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Speaker 3: on Aucust in just a second. We had some electronic
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Speaker 3: card data out for May yesterday. Core Retail sales falling,
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Speaker 3: spending effectively has been going sideways. This is despite all
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Speaker 3: the drop in petrol prices, which should be bringing numbers
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Speaker 3: down and therefore bringing these ones up. Retail down zero
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Speaker 3: point two percent for May versus April. Hospitality was up
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Speaker 3: point one which is good. Motor vehicles up the highest
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Speaker 3: two point six percent. That was the biggest increase. So
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Speaker 3: people going out and buying new cars. Why, I guess
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Speaker 3: the question is why are we're not opening our wallets
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Speaker 3: a little wider at this time? Why whilst some things
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Speaker 3: are still very expensive. You know, basic things are very expensive,
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Speaker 3: like your butter and your milk, aren't they? So people
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Speaker 3: are doing that also. People probably a bit hesitant still
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Speaker 3: about the state of the global economy, is still a
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Speaker 3: bit hesitant about old Trump. What's going to do next?
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Speaker 3: But cheaper petrol plus half your mortgages are for renewal
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Speaker 3: in the next six months and the rates are dropping
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Speaker 3: like flies, so that should help. Thirteen after five US
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Speaker 3: says it's reviewing the Orchest security pack between itself, the
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Speaker 3: UK and Australia all because it wants to make sure
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Speaker 3: the packed aligns with Trump's quote America First Agenda. What
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Speaker 3: does that mean for us, Helen Clark, of course we
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Speaker 3: are positioning on pillar two. Helen Clark, former Prime Minister,
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Speaker 3: is with us this morning. Good morning, Good morning, Ryan,
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Speaker 3: Good to have you with me. Do you think this
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Speaker 3: is actually he will Trump, that is, will review this
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Speaker 3: and change anything.
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Speaker 7: Well he might, Ryan. You see, President Trump has ditched
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Speaker 7: a lot of what President Biden did and he will
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Speaker 7: be looking at the Orchest arrangement with Australia in the
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Speaker 7: United Kingdom as a Biden initiative, So that makes it
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Speaker 7: very vulnerable. Also to note that the Australian Prime Minister
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Speaker 7: and the British Prime Minister who formulated this deal are
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Speaker 7: both long gone as well, Scott Morrison Australia and Boris Johnson.
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Speaker 7: So it's a new scene all round, and the United
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Speaker 7: States at the moment is quite unpredictable. Take for example, Australia,
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Speaker 7: like New Zealand, UK and a couple of others have
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Speaker 7: put these sanctions on the extremist ministers in the Israeli government,
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Speaker 7: and the US has come out and criticize that. So
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Speaker 7: it may be sort of formulating a line which says, well,
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Speaker 7: we don't want to do business with you anymore. Australia
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Speaker 7: in the UK on this because we don't like what
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Speaker 7: you've done on that, so it's very unpredictable.
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Speaker 3: Does this mean that you might end up actually agreeing
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Speaker 3: with one of Trump's positions.
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Speaker 7: Well, I've never thought that August was a sensible thing
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Speaker 7: for New Zealand to have anything to do with, because
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Speaker 7: I have a view we need to keep a much
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Speaker 7: more carefully balanced foreign policy. We have not been quote
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Speaker 7: an ally of the United States in decades since the
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Speaker 7: breach over weapons, and I don't see the advantage of
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Speaker 7: trying to get that status back. We've made our own
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Speaker 7: luck in the world, and quite successfully, so August Pillar
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Speaker 7: two would just be really dragging you back into an
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Speaker 7: orbit that you don't want to be in.
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Speaker 3: Should the President change, which will happen at some stage,
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Speaker 3: your view on whether we should be an ally of
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Speaker 3: America or not wouldn't change.
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Speaker 7: No, not at all. Look, we need to be a
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Speaker 7: friend of America, even in its troubled state. At the moment,
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Speaker 7: it has been a great democracy. I hope it continues
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Speaker 7: to be a great democracy. We've got a lot in common,
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Speaker 7: you know, we do good business for the Americans. We
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Speaker 7: share a lot of values or have the moment that's
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Speaker 7: a bit unprotectable as well. But I would not want
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Speaker 7: to see us back in the position when New Zealand
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Speaker 7: is expected to spend a whole lot more money on defense,
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Speaker 7: expected to follow the US into whatever its strategic adventures.
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Speaker 7: And I'm old enough to remember the Vietnam War in
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Speaker 7: New Zealand going into that not good reason at all
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Speaker 7: and limping out the other end was Kiwis that died
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Speaker 7: on the battlefield for no good reason. I don't want
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Speaker 7: to see us ever in that position again.
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Speaker 3: Hell In Clark, former Prime Minister, appreciate your time this morning.
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Speaker 3: It is sixteen after five yere on news talk ZEB
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Speaker 3: speaking of spending more on defense. The US is pushing for,
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Speaker 3: particularly for Australia and for the UK to up there
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Speaker 3: defense spinning, and both of them are but they want
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Speaker 3: you to get to three percent of GDP. You know,
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Speaker 3: we just got to two. I said this the other day,
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Speaker 3: and that NATO's asking for five from its members. Thank
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Speaker 3: god we're not in NATO. I mean, imagine how much
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Speaker 3: we would have to be spending. But the UK's agreed
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Speaker 3: to go to two point five by twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 3: The US wants it to go to three. Australia says
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Speaker 3: it will lift to not to the three and a
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Speaker 3: half percent of the US wants. So basically the UK
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Speaker 3: and Australia not doing what the US wants on spending.
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Speaker 3: How does that factor into orcus you can imagine what
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Speaker 3: Trump's going to do with this. Seventeen after five News
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Speaker 3: Talk zemb ski Fields next.
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Speaker 2: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 2: edition with Ryan Bridge and x fol Insulation keeping Kiwi,
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Speaker 2: Holmes Warm and Drey this winter News Talk said, be good.
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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to your Friday. It's nineteen minutes after
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Speaker 3: five o'clock. Ryan, we're not spending at home. This is
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Speaker 3: in relation to card spending. I asked, why aren't people
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Speaker 3: getting their wallets out. There's some card data out from
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Speaker 3: last month, just showing there was a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a dip, Just so we want Ryan, we're not spending
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Speaker 3: at home right now, says Kim, because we've saved hard
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Speaker 3: over the past few years to finally get away from
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Speaker 3: a New Zealand winter. Listening to you from Sunny's Spain
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Speaker 3: this morning. Well lucky you, Kim, thank you for listening,
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Speaker 3: and I hope you're enjoying your holiday sounds like it's
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Speaker 3: well deserved. Good on you, Ryan, love your work. But
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Speaker 3: Helen Clark, please know more of her? Ryan, put her
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Speaker 3: back in her tomb, please, She's had her day. Think
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Speaker 3: about Halen Clark is say what you want about her,
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Speaker 3: but she was a very smart and competant leader. No
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Speaker 3: one towards the end liked what she did. You know,
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Speaker 3: she fiddled with your shower heads, and she stopped you
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Speaker 3: smacking your kids, and a whole bunch of stuff happened, right,
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Speaker 3: But she's at least thoughtful. She spends a lot of
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Speaker 3: time reading and knows what's going on, So I think
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Speaker 3: it's worth talking to her. That would be my defense
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Speaker 3: of Helen Clark anyway, especially if you're going to talk
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Speaker 3: to her about things like aid on Gaza. Because she
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Speaker 3: ran the UNDP, so she's kind of got a special
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Speaker 3: set of a specialist set of skills that only Helen
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Speaker 3: Clark possesses. It's just gone twenty after Fine, Ryan Bridge,
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Speaker 3: we're talking the ski season kicking off this weekend, and
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Speaker 3: joining us this morning is Paul Anderson. Paul's with n
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Speaker 3: zed Ski, the chief executive. Paul. Good morning, Paul, can
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Speaker 3: you hear me.
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Speaker 8: Year me.
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Speaker 3: Oh there we go, gotcha. So what's happening? How much
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Speaker 3: snow we got?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, look, we're looking really good. Damn Queenstown at the
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Speaker 8: Remarkables and currenty peaks. We had a storm rolled through
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Speaker 8: late last week dropped about twenty to thirty centimeters in
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Speaker 8: our mountains. But more importantly, we've had a good eight
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Speaker 8: days solid of snowmaking and we've got some pretty incredible
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Speaker 8: snowmaking systems down here. So we've got up to a
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Speaker 8: meter of snow now on our main trails and looking
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Speaker 8: good for opening on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic. And what's the situation like with all of the lifts?
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Speaker 3: Are they all working and in good order, all that
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Speaker 3: kind of thing you're all ready to go from a
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Speaker 3: business in the side of it.
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Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, We've had a busy summer getting everything ready
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Speaker 8: maintained and doing all our maintenance on our lists and
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Speaker 8: snowmaking systems and so forth. So we for day one
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Speaker 8: we're going to be running with top to bottom skiing.
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Speaker 8: Not all lifts will be open, that's usual for the
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Speaker 8: start of the season, but where we're going to have
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Speaker 8: a crone peak our current peak express, which means we
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Speaker 8: can get our skiing top to the bottom and get
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Speaker 8: all the way to the top of the mountain and
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Speaker 8: have some great scheme and similarly over its remarkables Kurvy
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Speaker 8: Express and the Alta Chairlift are both going to be running.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got because there's the expansion happening right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Look, that's that's work we've been doing. We've got aspirations
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Speaker 8: to push the remarkables over to the next valley in
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Speaker 8: the coming years. We've got an application and the fast
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Speaker 8: track process and working hard to make sure we can
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Speaker 8: get all those studies done and then towards the end
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Speaker 8: of the year.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic Paul Goodlick, How is the Is the fast track
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Speaker 3: process easy? Because it sounds like it should be easy
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Speaker 3: because it's got fast on the front of it, But
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Speaker 3: is it actually.
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Speaker 8: It does well. Yeah, Look, the thing with the fast
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Speaker 8: track process is that brings all the hard yards up front.
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Speaker 8: So for us, it means we have to do a
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Speaker 8: lot of studies rightfully. So once you've got the information ready,
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Speaker 8: we expect it to be really efficient dealing with just
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Speaker 8: that one agency, the Environmental Protection Agency. So yeah, maybe
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Speaker 8: talk to me this time, the chair and we'll see
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Speaker 8: how we're going, but I'm hopeful of it. The signals
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Speaker 8: from the government are that they really want these projects
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Speaker 8: to get off the ground.
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Speaker 3: Nice one, Paul, great to have you on the show.
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Speaker 3: Paul Anderson, who's with us the Indian ski chief executive.
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Speaker 3: You're going skiing this week and have a great time.
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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes after five year on News Talk s
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Speaker 3: b Ryan, Why wouldn't the rest of the world just
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Speaker 3: say to Trump, no, we don't want your tariffs and
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Speaker 3: then don't do business with them. Got to be better
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Speaker 3: than sucking up to him and eventually he will be gone, Graham.
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Speaker 3: We can't do that. I mean we send the US
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Speaker 3: is now our second largest export market for goods, overtaken Australia.
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Speaker 3: If we stop sending them there and stop getting the
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Speaker 3: receipts for them, then we all get poorer and we
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Speaker 3: don't have as much money for things like cell phones
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Speaker 3: to send Texan. It's twenty four after five News Talk Sebb.
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Speaker 3: We'll get to our reporters around the country. After news
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Speaker 3: Vincent mcavinie on this plane crash in India that was
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Speaker 3: London bound. All ahead, News Talk SEBB.
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Speaker 2: The early edition Full show podcast on I An't Radio
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Speaker 2: Now it by News Talks V.
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Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is twenty six months, minutes after
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Speaker 3: five on your Friday morning. It's fair to say Christopher
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Speaker 3: Luxon's had a rough run at the top, is it.
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Speaker 3: The transition from CEO to Prime Minister hasn't been all
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Speaker 3: that smooth. Has Approval ratings have been way out of
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Speaker 3: whack with those of any predecessor. At the same time,
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Speaker 3: in their ragn think Clark, think Key, think Ja Cinda.
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Speaker 3: We hardly saw a honeymoon for him, did we. One
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Speaker 3: of the problems has been communication. You ask people and
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Speaker 3: they tell you it's hard to connect with him. We
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Speaker 3: don't really get what he's about. And then his loudmouth income,
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Speaker 3: the loudmouth coalition partners, they've largely filled the personality void
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Speaker 3: to his detriment. As a businessman, as a business executive,
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Speaker 3: you've got to be optimistic, eternally optimistic. You've got to
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Speaker 3: project positivity, and that positive, upbeat style has jarred with
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Speaker 3: the reality of our economy. The more he said things
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Speaker 3: are improving and this economy is turning a corner, the
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Speaker 3: more out of touch he sounded. Jacinda adin encountered the
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Speaker 3: same problem when she refused to call the cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis a crisis. Remember that you lose the room.
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Speaker 3: It's a bit like trying to entertain a crowd of
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Speaker 3: Metallica fans with a choir bit of a bum note,
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Speaker 3: doesn't really hit, doesn't really land. That problem has befallen
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Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen until now. There's no doubt that this economy
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Speaker 3: is on the up, despite the car data going sideways.
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Speaker 3: We saw this morning. We're about to see another jump
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Speaker 3: in GDP next week as we get called to one
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Speaker 3: data out. It follows a positive quarter four data last year.
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Speaker 3: Treasury reckons the current year, we will see growth heading
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Speaker 3: almost three percent. Thank you to our exporters, Thank you
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Speaker 3: to global conditions. There is light at the end of
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Speaker 3: the tunnel, and you can feel it and you can
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Speaker 3: see it. Shops are busier than they were a year ago.
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Speaker 3: Manufacturing is on the up, the data says, so companies
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Speaker 3: are hiring. And this is massive for Luxin because it
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Speaker 3: means his rhetoric is starting to match our reality. It's
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Speaker 3: the missing piece of the puzzle that could well turn
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Speaker 3: his political fortunes around. Bread right minutes after five year
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Speaker 3: on news Talk said b still loads of texts about
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Speaker 3: Halen Clark. Helen Clark lest she was competent. You know,
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Speaker 3: no one's texted me in saying she doesn't know what
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Speaker 3: she's talking about? Are they? Which is what would happen
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Speaker 3: if we had just cinder on because you know there
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Speaker 3: was a little sort of know a few knowledge gaps there.
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Speaker 3: Now this has come out from the government yesterday. Operation
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Speaker 3: Gallant Phoenix. This is our operation that we join were
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Speaker 3: a bunch of other countries, including the US. In fact,
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Speaker 3: it's led by the US Joint Special Ops Command in Jordan.
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Speaker 3: It's an intelligence gathering mission in Jordan, and we have
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Speaker 3: just extended our stay by another two years out to
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Speaker 3: June twenty twenty seven. Foreign Minister Winston Peter says this
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Speaker 3: operation is essential to our commitment to keep a safe
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Speaker 3: and secure in New Zealand. What does that mean? What
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Speaker 3: are they actually doing? Well, if you look at what
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Speaker 3: they're doing, they're basically hunting and tracking former ISIS fighters.
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Speaker 3: So they all left the camps when ISIS split up,
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Speaker 3: all left the camps and where did they go and
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Speaker 3: what are they going to do next? That's what these
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Speaker 3: guys are trying to find out. Apparently they look at documents, data, DNA,
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Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff from the camps, try and track
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Speaker 3: where these guys are going to next. So we're there
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Speaker 3: for another two years. Vincent mcavinie after news News Talk ZIBB.
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Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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Speaker 2: Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and
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Speaker 2: dry this winter news talks ad.
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Speaker 3: B Good morning, twenty four away from sex year on
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Speaker 3: news Talk SAIDB. This Air India plane crash. At least
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Speaker 3: two hundred people have died. One British guy walks away
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Speaker 3: completely unscathed and survives it miraculously. There's a key. We
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Speaker 3: chief executive Air India is the business involved. Talked to
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Speaker 3: Vincent mcavney shortly. We're also going to talk to Mark Mitchell,
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Speaker 3: whose Corrections Minister about prisoners because we're about to get
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Speaker 3: a thirty four percent increase in them. Are we ready
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Speaker 3: for that? He'll be with us just before six, News
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Speaker 3: Talk said B. Twenty four to two, Ryan Breck Calum
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Speaker 3: Proctor interned for US this morning. Calm, good morning. We're
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Speaker 3: going to get findings. This is into the death of
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Speaker 3: Lucky Jones, the UI toddler who died in Gore.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, corrector. Two police investigations so far found the three
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Speaker 9: year old accidentally drowned in the pond near his home
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Speaker 9: in twenty nineteen. His father, though has always firmly believed
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Speaker 9: he was murdered. An in question to the death was
18:40
Speaker 9: held into cargo last year. The coroner, Alexander Hoe, delayed
18:44
Speaker 9: the release of his findings last month. You remember that
18:47
Speaker 9: was when police announced further investigative work regarding an allegation
18:51
Speaker 9: made against the toddler's half brother, Jonathan Scott. Scott immediately
18:54
Speaker 9: engaged a lawyer, requested an extension, and so here we
18:58
Speaker 9: are today. The findings will be handed down today in Invercargo.
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Speaker 3: All right, and your weather in Dunedin.
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Speaker 9: Morning shows today clearing sou Westerlies and nine today.
19:07
Speaker 3: Nice, I'm thank you clears and christ Church clear. This
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Speaker 3: guy who killed young Faeba sentencing today.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Ryan, Look, this feels like a story that's gone
19:14
Speaker 10: on for some time for our newsroom. You'll remember that
19:17
Speaker 10: Jan Feibao went missing and was found dead in July
19:21
Speaker 10: of twenty twenty three. In December, Ting Jun Chao was
19:24
Speaker 10: found guilty of murdering the forty four year old. She
19:27
Speaker 10: went missing after the pair had viewed a home in Hornby.
19:30
Speaker 10: Her body was discovered over a year later with stab wounds,
19:34
Speaker 10: buried in some farmland outside of christ Church City. After
19:37
Speaker 10: opting to defend himself during the trial, charles defense was
19:42
Speaker 10: based on claims that the Crown evidence was simply made up.
19:45
Speaker 10: He was, however, found guilty after the jury deliberated for
19:49
Speaker 10: less than two hours. Today we'll find out what his
19:51
Speaker 10: sentence is.
19:52
Speaker 3: All right, and how's your weather? Clear?
19:54
Speaker 10: More rain for christ Church should start to ease by
19:57
Speaker 10: a bit later this morning. Southwesterlies at a high of eleven.
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Speaker 3: Nice one, thank you, and we're going to Wellington. Adam
20:03
Speaker 3: Cooper is with us this morning. Morning, Adam Money, Ryan,
20:06
Speaker 3: what's happened to Max? Sicky? No? I think day off.
20:09
Speaker 11: He's enjoying a weekend, probably lots of golf and other
20:12
Speaker 11: bits and pieces. I'm sure he played golf, of course,
20:14
Speaker 11: he loves it, loves it. It's such an old man.
20:16
Speaker 11: He sounds like such an old man in any phase
20:19
Speaker 11: golf right. Wellington Water is saying, so do the city council.
20:23
Speaker 11: Is this for spending too much on pipes? They shouldn't
20:25
Speaker 11: have what's it for?
20:26
Speaker 6: Yeah?
20:27
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
20:27
Speaker 11: You remember about three months ago those damning value for
20:29
Speaker 11: money reports came out in simple terms, showed Wellington rate
20:32
Speaker 11: payers we're getting badly ripped off.
20:34
Speaker 3: Now.
20:34
Speaker 11: Wellington Waters executives met with the council yesterday, apologizing for
20:38
Speaker 11: its lack of transparency and mismanagement, but insists it's come
20:41
Speaker 11: a long way and changing its culture. CEO Pat Doherty
20:45
Speaker 11: says changing the structure to have more accountability at the top.
20:48
Speaker 11: They've cut back meeting hours and have changed the relationship
20:51
Speaker 11: with contract to falls in Hogan. They're always they say.
20:53
Speaker 11: They've already changed some stats as well. Water leaks have
20:56
Speaker 11: gone down significantly. There were nine hundred and thirty six
20:59
Speaker 11: in January last year, now just one hundred and forty
21:02
Speaker 11: leaks around Wellington. But with a new water organization being
21:06
Speaker 11: set up under Local Water Done well House, sould's set
21:09
Speaker 11: to be paying around seven grand each year for water
21:12
Speaker 11: by the mid twenty thirties, so it's not an issue
21:15
Speaker 11: that one apology or a few broad promises will solve.
21:18
Speaker 3: All right, And how's your weather?
21:20
Speaker 11: Low cloud, occasional rain turning to showers this evening. We
21:23
Speaker 11: got strong southeries and twelve degrees.
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Speaker 3: Cheers Adam have a nice day. It is just twenty
21:28
Speaker 3: away from six neivas. Here wheels are falling off at
21:31
Speaker 3: halfway through the show.
21:32
Speaker 12: It is right at the thirteenths.
21:34
Speaker 3: I know, I didn't think of that before it happened. Hey,
21:36
Speaker 3: a lot of texts coming in in the last couple
21:38
Speaker 3: of minutes because you read the news at five thirty
21:40
Speaker 3: Neva correct Hepkins going to Ireland says? This one is
21:43
Speaker 3: that because Mallard is there, Ryan Wyner's Hipkins going to Ireland?
21:47
Speaker 3: Can he not skype them? Do we know what he's
21:49
Speaker 3: going for or how long he's going for? Or no,
21:51
Speaker 3: we don't.
21:51
Speaker 12: I don't know how long he's going for. I was
21:53
Speaker 12: too busy worried about more to do with the tap
21:56
Speaker 12: as just before I read that, because did you see
21:58
Speaker 12: that the water tap in the zb area in the
22:00
Speaker 12: green room has been fixed. It's been broken for about
22:04
Speaker 12: a week. The guys have come in to fix it.
22:06
Speaker 12: I was talking to produce the glen because more to
22:08
Speaker 12: the point, they've put up instructions and there's a button
22:11
Speaker 12: there for sparkling water.
22:13
Speaker 3: Oh does it do a sparkling now it doesn't.
22:15
Speaker 12: Unfortunately that's the problem. There was pushing the bars, and
22:18
Speaker 12: they would hurry up and go and read the news.
22:20
Speaker 3: It's nice to know what where your priorities are.
22:23
Speaker 12: Well, yes, sorry, not with hipkins, with the sparkling water
22:25
Speaker 12: that doesn't actually appear.
22:27
Speaker 3: I hope he would where he will fly business class.
22:30
Speaker 3: To those who are wondering, well.
22:31
Speaker 12: Will he do, they all did, well, he might go
22:34
Speaker 12: premium way.
22:35
Speaker 3: He'll be going business there and it will be just
22:38
Speaker 3: just a piss up, piss up with Mallard. Yeah, he
22:41
Speaker 3: gets there.
22:42
Speaker 12: He's going to text you now, he's going to text you.
22:44
Speaker 12: His people will get in hold of you.
22:46
Speaker 1: Now.
22:46
Speaker 3: The water thing, there's been a situation here for a
22:49
Speaker 3: little while and I had to say, I've gone without
22:52
Speaker 3: no complaints, have you?
22:54
Speaker 12: But do you drink water?
22:55
Speaker 3: Drink a lot of water?
22:56
Speaker 12: Well do you go over there? But you actually walk
22:58
Speaker 12: over there to the to the a.
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Speaker 3: Little bit longer, but you just do it, don't you.
23:02
Speaker 12: Well, you see I don't have time. I have to
23:03
Speaker 12: bring a big judge.
23:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's true. You're busy.
23:05
Speaker 12: That's I'm busy. I'll way busier than you.
23:07
Speaker 3: How how's our weather in Auckland?
23:09
Speaker 12: Well more water showers so heavy thunderstorms? Hey or possible.
23:15
Speaker 12: This practically thunderstorms every day here in Auckland. It's not
23:17
Speaker 12: such a big deal.
23:18
Speaker 8: Is it.
23:18
Speaker 3: It's the new normal.
23:19
Speaker 12: It is the new normal. High seventeen. Neva, stay positive
23:22
Speaker 12: for Friday the thirteenth. That's it the end.
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Speaker 3: Brilliant Thanks Neva, good to see you have a great weekend.
23:26
Speaker 3: Nineteen away from six year on news talks there B
23:29
Speaker 3: Vincent mcavanney, a UK europe correspondent on the Air India
23:31
Speaker 3: flight shortly and we will get to Mark Mitchell, the
23:34
Speaker 3: minister on the prison population going to jump thirty four
23:38
Speaker 3: percent in the next ten years. Do we have enough
23:40
Speaker 3: prison guards? News talks hereb. It is sixteen minutes away
23:43
Speaker 3: from six. By the way, Neva has updated us on
23:45
Speaker 3: the Chris Hipkins thing. Why is he going to Ireland? Well,
23:48
Speaker 3: he's going for meetings with leaders and experts in Denmark
23:52
Speaker 3: and Ireland, so he's actually going to be doing a
23:54
Speaker 3: little European jaunt. It's look, do you know what it is?
23:57
Speaker 3: It's winter and he needs some sunshine. Labor leader says
24:01
Speaker 3: New Zealand has so much to learn from Denmark, which
24:04
Speaker 3: successfully combines progressive social policy with economic competitiveness. He'll also
24:10
Speaker 3: visit Dublin. We'll hear from business groups and councils. Aka
24:14
Speaker 3: go to the pub with Maillard. It's quarter to Sex
24:16
Speaker 3: News Talks, it.
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Speaker 2: B International correspondence with insign Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
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Speaker 2: for New Zealand Business.
24:24
Speaker 3: Linton mcaviny is our UK Europe correspondent with US this morning. Vincent.
24:27
Speaker 3: That incredible story of a sole British survivor from an
24:31
Speaker 3: Air India plane crash that has thought to have killed
24:34
Speaker 3: more than two hundred people.
24:37
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right, this tragedy in India. A plane bound
24:41
Speaker 13: for London's Gatwick Airport crashed just seconds after takeoff. There
24:46
Speaker 13: were one hundred and sixty nine Indian nationals, fifty three Britain,
24:49
Speaker 13: seven Portuguese and one Canadian on the flight and at
24:53
Speaker 13: the moment it seems only one survivor, a man managed
24:57
Speaker 13: to walk away. He was in seat eleven A and
25:02
Speaker 13: somehow he doesn't know how himself. He has spoken to
25:04
Speaker 13: the media now he survived. He was ejected from the
25:07
Speaker 13: plane somehow and there is even footage of him just
25:10
Speaker 13: walking away from this scene of devastation. The plane crashed
25:14
Speaker 13: into a residential area, in fact to a college accommodation
25:17
Speaker 13: for medical students and two hundred and four bodies have
25:21
Speaker 13: been recovered so far from the scene. It has been
25:25
Speaker 13: a huge tragedy. Thought that a lot of families here
25:28
Speaker 13: in Britain affected because this is a popular route for
25:31
Speaker 13: the British Asian community, particularly the people of Leicester. So
25:35
Speaker 13: real tragedy in India today.
25:36
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. What about the situation with the UNI Nuclear
25:40
Speaker 3: Watchdog comes yet around not actually complying with it's you know,
25:44
Speaker 3: what it should be in terms of its nuclear weapons
25:46
Speaker 3: or potential nuclear weapons. Then the UIs gets worried about
25:50
Speaker 3: what Israel might do. Is this going to kick off? Yeah,
25:53
Speaker 3: that's right.
25:53
Speaker 13: The background of this is that there have been conversations
25:56
Speaker 13: between Washington and Jerusalem four weeks we understand, and about
26:00
Speaker 13: Israel wanting to launch a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities
26:04
Speaker 13: because of their growing concern that it was not complying
26:07
Speaker 13: with international rules, that it was enriching too much uranium
26:11
Speaker 13: potentially to make a nuclear weapon. Now separately, the US, UK,
26:15
Speaker 13: France and Germany are nineteen of the thirty five countries
26:18
Speaker 13: on the Atomic Energy Agency who have put forward this
26:22
Speaker 13: motion which have declared non compliance on its obligations and
26:27
Speaker 13: we are understanding. At the same time, the US is
26:29
Speaker 13: pulling out non essential diplomats and their families from embassies
26:32
Speaker 13: in Iraq and Q eight because they are so worried
26:35
Speaker 13: that Iran. If Israel does strike on those nuclear facilities,
26:39
Speaker 13: now that Iran might take its revenge on the surrounding
26:42
Speaker 13: sort of US targets. So quite a tense situation there.
26:45
Speaker 3: Certainly years appreciate your time. That mik of any UK
26:47
Speaker 3: europe correspondent time is thirteen away from six now, Ryan Bridge,
26:52
Speaker 3: looks like we might need some more prison beads slit
26:54
Speaker 3: stout building. Shall we a report from the Ministry of
26:56
Speaker 3: Justice predicting our prison population to grow by thirty six
26:59
Speaker 3: percent over then six ten years? Can we handle it? Corrections?
27:01
Speaker 3: Minister Mark Mitchell with me this morning. Good morning, Hey,
27:04
Speaker 3: good morning, Ryan. So will we have enough beds for
27:06
Speaker 3: a twenty four fourteen hundred and two hundred, fourteen thousand,
27:10
Speaker 3: two hundred prisoners by twenty thirty four? Yeah?
27:12
Speaker 4: So yeah, The short answer is yes. The Department has
27:15
Speaker 4: already opened eleven four hundred and seventy two operational beds
27:20
Speaker 4: and which is around two thousand more than Noptember twenty
27:23
Speaker 4: twenty three and by the end of the year this
27:25
Speaker 4: is expected to exceed twelve thousands. Twelve thousand as we
27:29
Speaker 4: as we open up the new Wykarria prison that we
27:32
Speaker 4: went and opened cut the ribbon on last week, and
27:35
Speaker 4: long term we'll see the Wykiri expansion which we've committed
27:38
Speaker 4: to and funded, and also the redevelopment of the christ
27:42
Speaker 4: Church Prison means prison.
27:43
Speaker 3: What does the Waykaria expansion get us too?
27:46
Speaker 4: That's an additional eight hundred and ten, So.
27:48
Speaker 3: Then we're at twelve thousand eight hundred roughly, so we
27:50
Speaker 3: need another well more than a thousand. Is that what
27:53
Speaker 3: christ Church gets us?
27:55
Speaker 4: Yes, so christ Church obviously delivers more. And then of
27:58
Speaker 4: course we've got a also we're in the line or
28:02
Speaker 4: it just the corrections are doing that stage and outstanding
28:06
Speaker 4: job and ford planning, so it also means that they've
28:09
Speaker 4: got a arm. They're also preparing for Auckland prism an
28:13
Speaker 4: expansion there if we need it.
28:15
Speaker 3: What about stars That staff's been a problem and it's
28:18
Speaker 3: even as recently as late last year at Ramattaka Prison,
28:22
Speaker 3: So how are we going to start at all?
28:25
Speaker 4: So we're doing extremely well on staffing the attrition level
28:29
Speaker 4: has dropped from around fifteen percent down to less than
28:33
Speaker 4: eight percent. There's been a huge recruitment campaign that we
28:37
Speaker 4: ran last year which saw one hundred and seventeen zerous applications,
28:42
Speaker 4: and as of thirty first of May twenty twenty five,
28:45
Speaker 4: we've had an additional nine hundred and twenty five full
28:47
Speaker 4: time equivalent staff deployed. So we're doing extremely well with
28:51
Speaker 4: our recruiting, our training and deployment of new corrections officers
28:55
Speaker 4: and so yeah, we've we're actually in a really good shape.
28:57
Speaker 3: It moment, your cridits will say, Lot, you're destroying people
29:01
Speaker 3: in the slammer and you're not actually solving the root
29:05
Speaker 3: calls of why these people are offending in the first place.
29:09
Speaker 3: It's the you know, these people that we will lock
29:12
Speaker 3: away for longer will have kids, They'll have families. Those
29:18
Speaker 3: families more likely once parents blocked away, more likely to
29:22
Speaker 3: be committing crimes in the future themselves. I mean, are
29:25
Speaker 3: we're creating a future disaster here?
29:28
Speaker 6: No.
29:28
Speaker 4: I think that we've been really clear that we are
29:30
Speaker 4: focused on public safety. And under the previous government, the
29:34
Speaker 4: only target they had around public safety was reduced in
29:36
Speaker 4: the prison population by thirty percent, and we saw a
29:39
Speaker 4: mess of increase in violent crime. So there are some
29:43
Speaker 4: people that don't want to stick to the rules, that
29:45
Speaker 4: think they're above the above the law, that are often
29:48
Speaker 4: residibus violent offenders, and the safest place to put them
29:50
Speaker 4: is into a correction system or facility, where then we
29:54
Speaker 4: can start to work on rehabilitation and hope that they
29:56
Speaker 4: rejoin society and make good decisions in their lives. Huge
30:00
Speaker 4: human cost and economic cost to having these people in
30:03
Speaker 4: the community, and we've been very clear as a government
30:06
Speaker 4: that we're not going to tolerate that. The flip side
30:08
Speaker 4: of it is is that we're doing a lot of
30:10
Speaker 4: work around social investment to try and get into people's
30:12
Speaker 4: lives earlier, for example, begins intergenerational and try and stop them,
30:17
Speaker 4: try and reduce that pipeline of people coming into the
30:19
Speaker 4: criminal justice system.
30:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were telling about that. Yes, they hate lots
30:22
Speaker 3: of texts coming in. Why are you because the the
30:25
Speaker 3: cost of a prison like one hundred and sixty K
30:26
Speaker 3: a year or something, Right, why are you giving them beds?
30:30
Speaker 3: Is one person? Get the prisoners working on our roading infrastructure.
30:36
Speaker 4: Look, there's lots of different programs inside corrections, And one
30:38
Speaker 4: of the things that I was really focused on when
30:40
Speaker 4: I became minister is making sure that we're doing things
30:43
Speaker 4: that actually give them real life skills so when they
30:45
Speaker 4: come out, they've got a much better chance of reintegrating
30:48
Speaker 4: and making good decisions, because we don't want to have
30:52
Speaker 4: a mess of population in our correction system as a country.
30:54
Speaker 4: But the reality of it is is that we've been
30:57
Speaker 4: very clear that we're prioritizing public safety.
31:00
Speaker 3: Do you think they the one the really bad ones
31:02
Speaker 3: will be in there forever? Do you think they should
31:04
Speaker 3: get heating and bet.
31:06
Speaker 4: Look, there's some that there's some that people that just
31:09
Speaker 4: are always going to do bad things, and it doesn't.
31:12
Speaker 3: Matter what you do.
31:13
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, Ryan, it
31:15
Speaker 4: comes down to personal responsibility and personal choices. So we
31:18
Speaker 4: can line up the best rehabilitation programs in the world
31:22
Speaker 4: until they actually want to engage with it themselves, until
31:26
Speaker 4: they actually want to do the hard work themselves, then
31:29
Speaker 4: you know we're going to continue to need prisons.
31:31
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell, their corrections, Minister, thanks for your time eight to
31:34
Speaker 3: six News Talks. They'd be mic is up with your.
31:37
Speaker 1: Next on your radio and online.
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Speaker 2: On iheard Radio early edition with Ryan Bridge and ex
31:44
Speaker 2: Fole Insulation keeping Kiey Holmes warm and dry. This winter
31:48
Speaker 2: news talks, they'd be six.
31:49
Speaker 3: To six on news talks. We're getting scammed and it's
31:52
Speaker 3: getting worse. Basically, the National Cybersecurity Center, this is the
31:55
Speaker 3: government agency that looks after this. From January one to
31:58
Speaker 3: March thirty first, one thousand, three hundred incidents were reported.
32:02
Speaker 3: Seventy seven were triaged because they were potentially of national significance. Now,
32:08
Speaker 3: the financial loss is seven point eight million dollars over
32:11
Speaker 3: that period. That's compared six point eight for the previous quarter,
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Speaker 3: second highest quarterly total loss that we've ever had. Five
32:18
Speaker 3: to six.
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Speaker 1: Ram Bridge, you'd never get.
32:20
Speaker 3: Scammed, of course, Mike, because you don't really go on well,
32:23
Speaker 3: I don't imagine you do much online.
32:25
Speaker 14: I'm scammed annually by the government. It's called the text rate.
32:28
Speaker 3: Well, that's we're all we're.
32:29
Speaker 14: Dealing with my account at that today. It's just you know,
32:31
Speaker 14: it's just front of mind at the moment.
32:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just don't answer any emails. That's the trick
32:36
Speaker 3: to not getting scammed.
32:38
Speaker 14: You delete them instantly. No one deletes more than I do.
32:41
Speaker 14: Every morning I get I get about one hundred and
32:43
Speaker 14: fifty emails a day, do you Yeah? And every morning
32:46
Speaker 14: when I come in here, So the first thing I
32:47
Speaker 14: do is go click click click click.
32:49
Speaker 3: I reckon, I get about what I've set up as
32:51
Speaker 3: a folder where people who I don't like going to
32:53
Speaker 3: a separate folder so that I don't have How.
32:55
Speaker 1: Do you do?
32:56
Speaker 3: How do you set that up?
32:57
Speaker 15: I can show you. I just called my inbox, which
33:01
Speaker 15: including say everybody. Basically it's on the don't like list?
33:05
Speaker 15: What are you doing today? Something on prisons because that
33:07
Speaker 15: FI Yeah.
33:07
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're going to have So it's one of those
33:09
Speaker 14: classic things where they go, oh, we're going to have
33:11
Speaker 14: X number of thousand more prisoners or x percentage more prisoners.
33:15
Speaker 14: And when you work it out extrapolated out over the
33:17
Speaker 14: four years that they're talking, all the ten years they're talking,
33:20
Speaker 14: there's actually not that many more prisoners going to be.
33:22
Speaker 14: You know, there's going to be fourteen with.
33:23
Speaker 3: Us thirty four percent over ten years.
33:25
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly, So work it out so it's a few
33:27
Speaker 14: percent per year basically, so you don't need to build
33:30
Speaker 14: some more to build that, you need to build some
33:32
Speaker 14: more prison like what's.
33:33
Speaker 3: Happened with and White a d apple where you've got that.
33:37
Speaker 3: We were going to go triple bunking.
33:38
Speaker 14: What's wrong with that? Quadruple bunk and come on, it's
33:43
Speaker 14: hard enough for goodness sake, we'll do that. Brendan Hartley,
33:46
Speaker 14: you know Brendan Hartley. Lemont is this weekend, so probably
33:50
Speaker 14: the biggest motor race in the world, and he's won
33:52
Speaker 14: it three times and he's a favorite, so we'll talk
33:55
Speaker 14: to him.
33:55
Speaker 3: It sounds like a great show, Mike, looking forward to
33:57
Speaker 3: it on your Friday morning. Have a fantastic weeking and everybody,
34:01
Speaker 3: it's been a good week. I'll see you on Monday.
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Speaker 3: Exkip what.
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