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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 22) (5/19/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  We're gonna pick up where we left off with a
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  Glenn Maxwell deposition as we continue to consume this elephant
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  one bite at a time. McCauley, this is an email
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  dated January fifteenth, twenty fifteen, from Jeffrey Epstein to you Maxwell.
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  Uh huh, McCauley. It states, in the first line, do
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  you want redacted to come out and say she was
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  the girlfriend during the time? Pagliuca objection to the form
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  and the foundation of the question. And actually the word
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  is redacted. There is no vow in there, McCauley. I
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  was just trying to pronounce it. McCauley. This email reads,
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  do you want redacted without a vow to come out
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  and say she was the girlfriend during the time? Who
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  was Jeffrey Epstein referring to Maxwell? I believe he was
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  referring to redacted as we know now they're talking about
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  chocolate sauce, the so called girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein. Why
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  was he asking if you wanted redacted to come out
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  and say she was the girlfriend? Pagleyuka objection to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell, the way the press and
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  you were characterizing me? Is if I was with Jeffrey
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  throughout this entire period of time and I was not. McCauley.
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  Was redacted with Jeffrey during this period of time? Maxwell,
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  I believe she was. McCauley. Did Jeffrey come out and
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  tell the press it was redacted and not you that
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  was with him as he is proposing here? Answer? I
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  don't believe he did. McCauley. Did you want him to
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  do that? Maxwell? No, I don't think I asked him
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  to do anything. No, McCauley. So do you know in
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  January of twenty fifteen, was redacted his girlfriend? Maxwell? Twenty fifteen?
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  I have no idea who was his girlfriend in twenty fifteen, McCauley,
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  I'm sorry you were correct. In the period of nineteen
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  ninety nine to two thousand and two, was redacted his girlfriend? Maxwell? Well,
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  they spent a lot of time together. McCauley. Did you
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  talk to redacted about going to the press and saying
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  that she was the girlfriend and not you? Maxwell? I
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  have never spoken to redacted. McCauley. Was blank offered any
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  money to make a statement that she was the girlfriend?
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  Pagliuka objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, I
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  have no idea. I have never spoken to redacted, and
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  I don't know anything. I have no idea Maxwell Exhibit
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  nineteen email marked for identification McCauley. That's an email from
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  Jeffrey to Maxwell, dated January twenty fifth, twenty fifteen. Maxwell.
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  Uh huh, McCauley, I will direct your attention to the
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  bottom email, which is from you on Saturday, January twenty fourth,
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  twenty fifteen. It says I would appreciate it if redacted
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  would come out and say she was your girlfriend. I
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  think she was from the end of nineteen ninety nine
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  to two thousand and two. Does that refresh your recollection
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  that you asked Jeffrey have redacted come out and say
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  she was his girlfriend? Maxwell? I'm sure I would have
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  loved anybody to come out and say that they were
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  with Jeffrey rather than me. McCauley. Was that an accurate
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  statement you were asking to be made to the press,
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell,
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  When is this McCauley, twenty fifteen. The statement is whether
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  she was the girlfriend from nineteen ninety nine to two
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  thousand and two, As the email reads, Maxwell, What is
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  your question McCauley, My question is was that an accurate
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  statement you were going to be giving to the press. Maxwell.
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  I didn't make the statement and redacted never came out,
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  so it's completely mood. McCauley. My question is, was it
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  an accurate statement that redacted was the girlfriend from nineteen
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  ninety nine to two thousand and two or were you
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  just making that up for purposes of deflecting press from you?
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  Mister Pakliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  As I say, they spend a lot of time together.
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  And to this McCauley interrupts her, were you also his
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  girlfriend from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and two? Answer?
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  I don't know if I would ever have characterized myself
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  as his girlfriend, but redacted at the time was with
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  them as much, if not more, than I was. McCauley.
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  I will mark this as Maxwell twenty Maxwell Exhibit twenty
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  email marked for identification. McCauley, this is an email. At
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  the top, it's baits labeled zero zero one zero six zero.
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  At the top is a chain from Jeffrey to you
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  on January eleventh, twenty fifteen. If you look below, I'm
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  going to start at the bottom of that chain, which
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  is January eleven, at nine fifteen from Jeffrey, and he
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  wrote redacted. Do you have an article coming out in
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  Monday's paper? If so, could you please forward us a copy.
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  Do you know what redacted Jeffrey was referring to there, Maxwell,
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  I don't know, McCauley. If you look up the email chain,
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  do you see an email address from redacted responding to
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  that letter? Maxwell? I do, McCauley, So that would be
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  redacted that Jeffrey was emailing at the time according to
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  this chain, correct, Maxwell, It certainly looks like it. McCauley.
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  The email from redacted to Jeffrey is nothing. On Monday,
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  I'm working on several possible articles about unfairness in the
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  legal process that allows false charges to be inserted into
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  legal documents with no opportunity to respond. And do you
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  see above that Jeffrey's email to you that says, quote careful, Maxwell,
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  is that to me or to redact it? McCauley. Jeffrey
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  to redacted at the top. Why was Jeffrey telling you
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  to be careful? Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and
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  the foundation, Maxwell, I have no idea, McCauley. What was
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  he concerned about with redacted suggestion in that email below?
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  Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I
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  can't possibly know, McCauley. Did you discuss with him why
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  he told you to be careful? Maxwell? I had limited
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  content with them. I don't recall where this goes in
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  the chain why he was telling me to be careful.
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  I have no idea. McCauley. Did you respond to this email? Maxwell?
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  If you don't have it, I didn't respond. McCauley. Did
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  you ever delete emails during the period of January of
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  twenty fifteen? Maxwell? I have every email that you have
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  asked for in discovery that I have gave you. McCauley,
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  That's not my question. Did you ever delete emails in
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  January of twenty fifteen? Maxwell? I have not deleted anything
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  you have asked me for in discovery. I have given
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  you everything that I have McCauley, that is not my question.
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  My question is did you ever delete emails in January
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  of twenty fifteen? Maxwell? In the normal course of my work,
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  there are emails from spam that I delete. That is
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  the type of email that I've deleted anything that is
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  material to what you want. I have not deleted, McCauley.
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  How do you know that, Maxwell, Well, anybody or anything
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  that has to do with Jeffrey or redacted or women,
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  or anything of which I know you were interested in
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  of which I have anything, I would not have done
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  because I don't want to subject myself to this. She's
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  cut off by McCauley. Have you had your computer forensically
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  copied for the purpose of this litigation? Mister Pagliuca objection
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  to the form and foundation? Maxwell? Has someone made a
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  copy of your computer for purposes of this litigation? Maxwell? No, McCauley.
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  Are you a citizen of the United States? Maxwell, I
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  am McCauley. Are you a citizen of England? Maxwell, I
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  am McCauley. Are you a citizen of any other land? Maxwell? Tamar?
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  Really they have their own land there, Huh. Okay, I
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  guess McCauley. That's the name of your charity project that
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  deals with the oceans. Is that correct? Maxwell? Yeah, I'm
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  French as well. McCauley. Has Jeffrey Epstein funded Taramar for you?
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  Answer from Maxwell? He did give me some money to Taramar. Yes, McCauley,
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  how much. Maxwell, I believe it was fifty thousand and right.
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  Here's the Rico case that I've been talking about. If
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  you just want to bear bone Zerrico case here it
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  is right here. She got money from his malfeasance. Therefore
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  she's just as guilty as he is, point blank, period.
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  But still no Rico. McCauley. Earlier today, you said you
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  were in the process of resolving to sell of your
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  town home. Where do you intend to live once your
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  town home is sold? Maxwell? That's a good question. I
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  don't have an answer for you yet. McCauley. You don't
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  have a present plan. Do you intend to live in
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  the United States? Maxwell? I don't have a present plan. McCauley.
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  Are you living outside of your town home right now?
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  Or are you still there? Maxwell, I'm just CouchSurfing. CouchSurfing?
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  Is it okay? McCauley. Has Jeffrey Epstein ever purchased a
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  company for you or put a company in your name?
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  Mister Pagliuca an objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have no recollection, McCauley. Is there a Glenn Maxwell Corporation,
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  for example? Maxwell? No, not that I'm aware of that
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  has anything to do with me. There may be one
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  with someone else owns were started, but not one that
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  is related to me. McCauley. I'm going to take a
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  short break and make sure to keep it short because
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  I know you wanted to. I just want to wrap
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  this up what I have left. It's now five point
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  forty nine and we are off the record. They're back
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  on at six and McCauley's once again asking the questions. McCauley, Maxwell,
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  do you recall being subpoenad for a deposition back in
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  two thousand and nine? Maxwell, I do, McCauley, Why did
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  you avoid giving your deposition in that case when you
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  were subpoenaed and had the opportunity to tell your side
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  of the story. Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  That's not what happened, McCauley. What happened Maxwell, as best
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  I recall, I was subpoena and the date was set
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  for the subpoena, and everything was set, and I believe
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  it was with Brad Edwards. Correct me if I'm wrong,
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  and Brad Edwards failed to show up for the subpoena McCauley,
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  So your testimony is Brad Edwards did not show up
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  for the deposition that had been set Maxwell. Correct, McCauley,
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  did you give any statement that your mother was ill
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  and therefore you couldn't take your deposition and had to
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  leave the country indefinitely. Maxwell, That's an entirely separate situation.
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  Brad Edwards was involved in the redacted I believe you
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  know is when fake suits were created in Jeffrey's case
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  and redacted and redacted, and Brad Edwards worked for that
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  firm McCauley, and mister Edwards worked for that firm, Maxwell,
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  So when the subpoena came, Brad Edwards was involved with
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  redacted in the case. So when I was called for
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  subpoena then and I had a subpoena Dayton time set,
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  Brad Edwards went awall, meaning he failed to respond to
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  calls and failed to get in touch with my attorneys
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  even though a Dayton time was set for the subpoena.
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  And so that's what happened to that subpoena. It just
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  didn't happen. McCauley, We may be talking about two different cases.
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  So I will ask the question again, was there ever
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  a time where you were subpoena to sit for a
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  deposition that you cannot make it because you said that
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  your mother was ill. Maxwell. So that is the same
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  subpoena that Brad Edwards failed to turn up for. And
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  when I think five or six months passed between a
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  period of time, I can't characterize it exactly, a period
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  of time passed where he then resurfaced and asked for
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  a new subpoena to be a new time to be set.
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  And because he had contacted the press and done all
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  sorts of things that you guys are familiar with. I
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  believe it was my lawyer suggested that I should have
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  some sort of protective order. And I believe between the
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  time for when Brad Edwards resurfaced after they're adacted for
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  creating fake cases in Jeffreys and other people's cases, in
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  between the time when there were trying to figure out
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  the protective situation for me, my mother was sick. She
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  is eighty nine. She was eighty nine at the time,
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  so they we can all we all have parents, So anyone,
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  I don't know how old your parents are, but any
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  parent or god parent, any individual who was in their
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  late eighties or nineties, we can understand as health issues So,
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  my mother's health was deteriorating very rapidly at that time,
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  and we had issues at home with who she would
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  talk to and had a manager her health care situation,
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  and so I went home. They were still arguing about
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  protective orders. She gets interrupted here by manager. Is it
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  your testimony that there was not a date set for
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  your deposition at the time you left to go see
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  your mother, Maxwell, I don't believe so. All right, folks,
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  we're going to wrap up this part here and in
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  the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
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