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Full Show Podcast: 16 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: And the insight. Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with Spark
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  Speaker 1: for Business, technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you and welcome to the program and
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for choosing us. It's Andrew in
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  Speaker 2: for Ryan who's back on telly duties again. He's back
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  Speaker 2: with you full time next week. On the programme today,
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  Speaker 2: plug-in solar is coming. Should you join the queue for
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  Speaker 2: the kit? That's next. We cross to Sydney ahead of
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  Speaker 2: the second Bledisloe. And what's really happening at Starship's Child
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  Speaker 2: Cancer Ward? We've got Peter Anderson from the UK, correspondents
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  Speaker 2: from right around New Zealand. News as it breaks, and
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  Speaker 2: you can have your say on the text. 92.92, small
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  Speaker 2: charge applies.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: Well, seven after five on Friday, the 16th of October
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  Speaker 2: in Russia and Ukraine are back at it again. Despite
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  Speaker 2: Trump's energy ceasefire, Moscow's accusing Kiev of hitting an oil
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  Speaker 2: refinery is after Zelensky said he was resuming strikes. So
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  Speaker 2: if they keep doing this, how much longer will you
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  Speaker 2: maintain the stoppage of attacks on Russian refineries?
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Block is out.
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  Speaker 2: Lock us out. Meanwhile, EU leaders are meeting in Brussels.
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  Speaker 2: They're promising to tighten sanctions on Russia. And this comes
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  Speaker 2: amid reports that the state is trying to get control
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  Speaker 2: of billions of euros in frozen Russian assets.
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  Speaker 6: Those are assets that are frozen in Europe and they
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  Speaker 6: should remain frozen in Europe.
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  Speaker 4: This is our business and we are deciding over it.
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  Speaker 2: Back to mainland America and President Trump has scrapped plans
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  Speaker 2: to live stream Nadal Hassan's firing squad execution after quite
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  Speaker 2: a backlash.
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  Speaker 7: He made clear that, quote, many very good and well-meaning
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  Speaker 7: people would rather not watch him die through streaming or
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  Speaker 7: through any other visual device. Now, the president confirmed that
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  Speaker 7: the scheduled execution plan Hassan will move forward. It's set
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  Speaker 7: to take place in December and it will be done
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  Speaker 7: by firing squad.
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  Speaker 2: And he says the victims' families will still be able
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  Speaker 2: to watch in person if they want. And FIFA president
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  Speaker 2: Gianni Infantino has apologised over his World Cup sell-off plan.
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  Speaker 2: But he's facing pressure to release all the documents and
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  Speaker 2: answer some questions. The FIFA Council met in Zurich for
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  Speaker 2: the first time since January. Infantino's secret proposal emerged. And
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  Speaker 2: here is the chair of the English FA, a woman
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  Speaker 2: by the name of Debbie Hewitt.
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  Speaker 8: If that's what he regrets, he has the opportunity now
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  Speaker 8: to put that right and to share that documentation.
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  Speaker 2: Because if he.
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  Speaker 8: Realises with regret that that was his intention, then it's
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  Speaker 8: really perplexing to not understand why he's not shared those papers.
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  Speaker 2: And it's now nine after five. Hear it first.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with Spark for Business, technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. Well, here we are. It's a Friday
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  Speaker 2: and thank goodness it's the weekend. And I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to taking time out from the election campaign, which has
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  Speaker 2: failed to be inspiring in any way and seems to
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  Speaker 2: have gone on forever already. So what am I doing tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to Cabaret, the Auckland Theatre production. I know
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  Speaker 2: the show. I've seen the film. It's had great reviews.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to it. I was a little surprised, though,
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  Speaker 2: to see a warning for the audience. Theatregoers have been
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  Speaker 2: warned that the production includes anti-Semitism and Nazi symbolism, and
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  Speaker 2: that includes swastikas. No kidding. The musical includes the rise
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  Speaker 2: of the Third Reich in 1929 Berlin. So people have
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  Speaker 2: come out and said these symbols on stage, these swastikas
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  Speaker 2: after the interval, is deliberately jarring, dark, and confronting. And
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  Speaker 2: some people got a little triggered by it all. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's part of the whole thing. And the
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  Speaker 2: Nazis aren't the good guys in this play. They're the
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  Speaker 2: bad guys. And the whole warning thing seems a little
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  Speaker 2: unnecessary to me. We've all got so cotton-walled that we
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  Speaker 2: need to be given warnings that life is not all
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  Speaker 2: fluffy ducks and puppies. Meanwhile, I'm also going to Olivia
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  Speaker 2: Deen's at Western Springs Bowl. Now, the first time I
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  Speaker 2: went to the Springs for a concert was Rod Stewart's
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  Speaker 2: Blondes Have More Fun back in the 70s. And if
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  Speaker 2: you've been going to the springs like I have all
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  Speaker 2: my whole life, you know that public transport options are bad.
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  Speaker 2: There's no parking. If you take a car, you have
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  Speaker 2: to park somewhere in Gray Lynn. You have to find
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  Speaker 2: a spot after resting with the residents. So me being me,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I'd take an e-bike. I've been doing this
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  Speaker 2: to Eden Park for years now. So I thought, right,
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  Speaker 2: I'll take an e-bike. And then in an email from
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  Speaker 2: the promoters, they say to me, don't bring an umbrella.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the bowl has no parking for bikes. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is despite the council spending millions on an upgrade.
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  Speaker 2: But they still can't find a little bit of money
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  Speaker 2: to put up a secure area for nutters like me,
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  Speaker 2: who like to bike to the front door. Nor have
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  Speaker 2: the promoters ponied up. I don't know what that's about. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'm just going to have to park somewhere
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  Speaker 2: in Mount Eden and go for a long hike like
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  Speaker 2: everybody else. By the way, currently in Auckland it's raining
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  Speaker 2: in 10 degrees. If Olivia Deans was playing right now,
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  Speaker 2: I would be very unhappy. So I have good news
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  Speaker 2: for you. Tomorrow's forecast for the big concert, 30,000 odd
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  Speaker 2: people turning up, fine weather, southerlies, and a high of
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  Speaker 2: 16 degrees. The National Party actually came out with a
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  Speaker 2: campaign promise to get plug-in solar panels on shelves by
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  Speaker 2: next year. So should you join a queue to get
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  Speaker 2: the kit? We'll talk to a guy who loves this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's Mike Casey from rewiring Altera. He's next.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition Paul's Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. Before the news breaks, hear it first. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: Dickens on early edition with Spark for Business, technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Nineteen after five is the time. On being
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  Speaker 2: cotton wool, I've had a text from Sarah. Good morning
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  Speaker 2: to you, Sarah. Who says, here we go. You buy
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  Speaker 2: a pack of peanuts, and on the pack of peanuts
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  Speaker 2: is a warning, this pack may contain Contain nuts. No kidding.
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  Speaker 2: We're being cotton-wooled.
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  Speaker 9: Righto.
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  Speaker 2: Plug-in solar panels could be on your shelves in your
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  Speaker 2: local Bunnings or you might attend by early next year
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  Speaker 2: if the National Party are re-elected. And Simeon Brown yesterday
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  Speaker 2: told Heather Dupacy-Allen that a six-month time frame is totally doable.
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  Speaker 9: Put it in a container, get it on a ship,
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  Speaker 9: bring it out here and get it on the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: So joining me is Mike Casey, who's the CEO of
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  Speaker 2: Rewiring Aotearoa.
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  Speaker 8: Morning, Mike.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Andrew. How are we?
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  Speaker 2: Very good. Obviously, you're very excited about it. Is it
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  Speaker 2: as simple as just getting it in a container and
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  Speaker 2: getting it on the shelves and it's here in six months?
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  Speaker 10: That's right. New Zealand's a pretty small country. I think
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  Speaker 10: there's actually about five million installations in intercontinental Europe now.
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  Speaker 10: UK's just approved it as well. It's happening in America.
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  Speaker 10: Not hard to get them on containers, bring them over
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  Speaker 10: and start bringing New Zealanders' powers bills down, which is
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  Speaker 10: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Simeon says you can install them yourself. It's as easy
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  Speaker 2: as plugging in a toaster.
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  Speaker 10: It's pretty much the way it works. You buy a
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  Speaker 10: couple of solar panels from Punnings, take them home, take
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  Speaker 10: out the cord, plug it into the power socket, and
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  Speaker 10: away you go.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a regulator? Is there a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: kit that you have to sort of, you know, fool
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  Speaker 2: with so it actually pumps the power into the house
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to taking it out, which a plug normally does?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, there's a special microinverter on the edge of the
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  Speaker 10: solar panels, and that microinverter takes the power from the
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  Speaker 10: solar system and converts it into power that the appliances
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  Speaker 10: in your home on that circuit can use, which is
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  Speaker 10: pretty cool. And it's very, very safe because the way
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  Speaker 10: these inverters work is they do not turn on until
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  Speaker 10: they actually detect that they're plugged in and then they
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  Speaker 10: can read New Zealand's grid.
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  Speaker 2: Where do you put the panels in?
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  Speaker 10: You can put them outside. A lot of Germans are
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  Speaker 10: hanging them on their balconies. It's also called balcony solar.
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  Speaker 10: Put them on the lawn on an A-frame, stick them
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  Speaker 10: up on a fence. Solar panels are getting so cheap now,
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  Speaker 10: they're probably cheaper than fencing. So there's lots of different
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  Speaker 10: things that you can do.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just thinking about my place. I do have
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  Speaker 2: a power plug outside, which I use, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: the water blaster. And so then I could just plug
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  Speaker 2: it into that and just leave the whole panel outside
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  Speaker 2: there weather-resistant.
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  Speaker 10: That's the ideal situation. I mean, many people might be
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  Speaker 10: running the cord in through a window or something to
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  Speaker 10: start off with. But yeah, getting a plug outside and
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  Speaker 10: still buy an ultrasonic is probably the way to go
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  Speaker 10: moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: How much?
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  Speaker 10: Well, this is the number one question. We don't know
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  Speaker 10: because no retailers in New Zealand are doing them yet.
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  Speaker 10: But it's probably in the vicinity of about $ 500 to
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  Speaker 10: $ 1, 500 is what it would actually cost a European. And
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  Speaker 10: that will save you somewhere between 7% and 14% on
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  Speaker 10: your power bill every year. However, if you're one of
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  Speaker 10: those real... nerdy power consumers like me that likes to
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  Speaker 10: put everything on timers and do it absolutely perfectly. We're
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  Speaker 10: seeing people in the UK get up to 30% discount.
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  Speaker 2: Could it charge up an EV overnight?
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  Speaker 10: No, definitely not. The sun is not shining, obviously, overnight.
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  Speaker 10: The number one thing, the average driver in New Zealand
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  Speaker 10: drives about 230 kilometers a week. So at some point
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  Speaker 10: during that time, the car will be home. And yes, technically,
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  Speaker 10: that solar from that plug-in solar system will feed into
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  Speaker 10: the car. But the number one thing is plug-in solar
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  Speaker 10: is not going to have nearly the return on investment
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  Speaker 10: of a proper solar system. So it's really good for renters.
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  Speaker 10: It's really good for people that don't have access to
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  Speaker 10: mortgages and things like that to get a proper solar
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  Speaker 10: system on their roof. But if you are in a
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  Speaker 10: place where you've got $ 20, 000 on your mortgage and you're
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  Speaker 10: looking to really save on your power bill, I'd still
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  Speaker 10: recommend looking at putting a proper system on your roof.
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  Speaker 2: Will people buy the plug-ins?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, I absolutely like it. We've seen how popular they
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  Speaker 10: are overseas. I mean, I think it's going to require
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  Speaker 10: a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of education.
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  Speaker 10: There's going to be a new thing for New Zealanders,
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  Speaker 10: but you know what I'm like. David Seymour yesterday called
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  Speaker 10: me a ferret on crack when it comes to this stuff.
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  Speaker 10: So we'll just keep talking and people will keep buying.
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  Speaker 10: And the number one thing is if your neighbour does
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  Speaker 10: start doing it, it's not too long before you start
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  Speaker 10: doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, I love your enthusiasm. I won't let Simeon put
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  Speaker 2: it down. And I thank you so much for your
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  Speaker 2: time this morning. All the best, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got one more question for you. Will we
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  Speaker 2: win the second bit or so?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, mate, absolutely, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 8: Well, there we go.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely. I can't wait for that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, true. And I thank you, which is why we're
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  Speaker 2: going to Sydney next. Elliot Smith is getting up early
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  Speaker 2: for us. What is it in Sydney right now? 3.20
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  Speaker 2: in the morning, and we reckon that Elliot's going to
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  Speaker 2: be getting up after the league test last night. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: things might get a bit rocky. It's Newstalk ZB. It's
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  Speaker 2: 18 after 5.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB. The news you need this morning and the
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  Speaker 1: in-depth analysis. Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Spark for Business.
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  Speaker 1: Technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 2: It's 5.21. If you're like me, the very first thing
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  Speaker 2: I did when I arrived at work this morning... was
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  Speaker 2: find out what happened in the league game, because I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't staying up that late, obviously because of the hours.
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand outplayed the Australian team for long periods. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they were completely dominant, but somehow they ended up losing. 24-22,
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  Speaker 2: it's a real thriller. And a big blow, Caelan Ponga,
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  Speaker 2: who was apparently outstanding on his long-awaited debut, is likely
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  Speaker 2: to be out for the rest of the tournament after
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  Speaker 2: suffering a suspected broken arm in the second half. 24-22,
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  Speaker 2: it's a heartbreak. Meanwhile, there's another game happening in Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: and it's happening with the All Blacks versus the Wallabies
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  Speaker 2: in Bladisloe Cup No. 2. And our man calling the
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  Speaker 2: game and who has woken up very early for us
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  Speaker 2: is Elliot Smith. Good morning to you, Elliot.
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  Speaker 9: Morning, Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch the league last night? I did.
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  Speaker 9: Not at the ground, but I watched it nonetheless, and
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  Speaker 9: it was. It was everything you just described there. The
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  Speaker 9: Kiwis did outplay the Kangaroos for... Majority of the game.
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  Speaker 9: Yet a couple of intercept tries that they threw, and
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  Speaker 9: then Caelan Pogner going off that broken arm. They were
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  Speaker 9: the better team, but as you said, finished on the
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  Speaker 9: wrong side of the ledger. So yeah, look, some promising signs,
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  Speaker 9: but unfortunately, a loss to start that tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Gosh, I'm amazed at your constitution. You're a machine, mate,
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  Speaker 2: and this is magnificent. And now you're getting ready to
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  Speaker 2: call this game, which is going to happen in front
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  Speaker 2: of 70,000 people at Sydney's Accord Stadium. That's the old
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  Speaker 2: home bush as well. What's the weather like?
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  Speaker 9: It's been a horrible week, actually, Andrew, although Saturday is
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  Speaker 9: going to be the best day of the week from
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  Speaker 9: our time here. It's been raining most of the week.
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  Speaker 9: It rained on and off. yesterday here in Sydney. I
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  Speaker 9: think it's been about two hours worth of sunshine, but
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  Speaker 9: conditions should be all right for tomorrow afternoon, hopefully. So
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  Speaker 9: that's a positive sign. And perhaps the All Blacks might
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  Speaker 9: be able to use that running game we saw so
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  Speaker 9: much of in Auckland last week when the conditions were
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  Speaker 9: good again, if the weather holds up. So that's a positive.
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  Speaker 9: And look, they'll be wanting to go out and deliver
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  Speaker 9: a similar performance to to what we saw last week
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  Speaker 9: at Eden Park, given they sort of got back on
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  Speaker 9: track after those three losses in South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave Rennie has named eight changes to the matchday 23.
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  Speaker 2: Only three of those, though, on the run on 15.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of this forced by injuries, of course. So
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  Speaker 2: what do you make of the team?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think maybe there's even a chance for
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  Speaker 9: a couple more tweaks. You know, you think about some
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  Speaker 9: of the players that we've seen for a lot of
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  Speaker 9: game time this year. Roy Gard, Geordie Barrett, McKenzie, Will Jordan.
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  Speaker 9: But he's resisted the temptation to change too much. And
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  Speaker 9: I guess that's fair enough when you've just got back
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  Speaker 9: with that win after three losses in South Africa. But look,
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  Speaker 9: I think considered changes is probably... the way you'd describe this.
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  Speaker 9: A change in the front row with Ethan DeGroote rotating out.
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  Speaker 9: Fabian Holland comes back in in the second row to
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  Speaker 9: partner Scott Barrett and then Josh Mulby on the wing.
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  Speaker 9: I really like the bench that Dave Rennie's named, though, Andrew.
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  Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of impact there. Timothi Tavatava-Nawai
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  Speaker 9: gets his opportunity. He's been training for a number of
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  Speaker 9: weeks now in the All Blacks. Dave Rennie's wanted to
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  Speaker 9: see more work race out of him. Duplessis Karifi has
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: had a tough old MPC season, captaining Wellington, so it's
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  Speaker 9: no wins through the season. He's a sort of core
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  Speaker 9: celebrator of many a fan in New Zealand, and he
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  Speaker 9: gets his opportunity off the bench as well. So I
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  Speaker 9: really like the impact that potentially the All Blacks could
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  Speaker 9: look to utilise there.
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  Speaker 2: We've kind of run out of time to talk about
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  Speaker 2: Les Kiss and the Wallabies, but they'll be smarting and
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  Speaker 2: they'll be wanting to come back. But what do you
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  Speaker 2: think is going to happen in the game?
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  Speaker 9: Look, I think the All Blacks are too strong again.
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  Speaker 9: The Wallabies just don't have the cattle at the moment.
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  Speaker 9: A couple of injuries to them as well. And I
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  Speaker 9: suspect there might be another victory for the All Blacks again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm loving it. And I thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: getting up early for us. And this is actually part
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  Speaker 2: of a huge weekend because we've already had the league.
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  Speaker 2: Now we've got the Bledisloe coming up. We've also got
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  Speaker 2: Black Ferns versus France Saturday in Hamilton. And in netball,
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  Speaker 2: the Silver Ferns playing the Australian Diamonds on Sunday at
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  Speaker 2: Spark Arena. three huge trans-Tasmans in the French. Magnificent. It
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  Speaker 2: is 5.25. Newstalk ZB. I'm Andrew Dickens. It's 5.27. So
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's talkback outrage was all about the MPs meeting the
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  Speaker 2: mongrel mob, a meeting condemned by both the Chris's and
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: the leaders' debate. And despite all this weight of opinion
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: about what a bad move that was, Marama Davidson doubled
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: down on the visit yesterday, and then she promised more
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: funding for gang-run social programs. I'm not sure that Marama
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  Speaker 2: completely grasps the situation and understands the issue. I, like others,
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  Speaker 2: actually don't mind MPs talking with criminals to better understand
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  Speaker 2: where the criminals are at, and I don't mind them
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  Speaker 2: talking with the gangs. There are 11,000 gang members now.
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  Speaker 2: They have tens of thousands of related whānau, many of
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  Speaker 2: whom need intervention from the state, so you need to
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  Speaker 2: know where they're at, whether it's support for single mothers
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: or there's rescuing of children from abusive homes or housing, whatever.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: So it's good to see these issues firsthand with your
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: own eyes. However, the real problem with that meeting with
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the mongrel mob was the social media posting of the photos.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: It legitimised the gangs. It even celebrated their existence to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: a wider public. To not see that, I think, silly
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: and naive of Marama, particularly in a week where the
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Greens are polling better than ever and then she went
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: and ruined it. The fact that it was done so
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: close to the election... means it's been weaponized and once
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: again cast doubts around the Greens being equipped to have
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: their hand on the tiller of this country. And what
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I also found interesting is that Chloe Swarbrick has said
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: nothing about this. In fact, she was asked if the
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: event was acceptable and Ms. Swarbrick did not give a
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: definitive yes or no. Instead, she said, I need to
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: understand more of the context as to what is played
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: out here. She knows better. She has learned over the years.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Unlike Marama Davidson, the reason the right attack Ms. Swarbrick
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: so much and not Marama Davidson is that they know
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: that one is actually a threat who kind of knows
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: what she's doing and the other is an irrelevancy. And
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: so you get the feeling that that co-leadership thing between
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Chloe and Marama might be a thing of the past.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Text. Andrew, I've got full solar installed in April. Didn't
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: seem to be moving the dial through winter, but our
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: September power bill, 51 cents. Thank you, John. Congratulations. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: someone else asked, if it's as simple as buying a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: plug-in panel, why do there need to be regulation changes?
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: The electrical regulators will not be pushing this through quickly
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: as every panel sold will be a few dollars less
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: for the power companies. You can see that as well.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But thank you for your text and keep them coming. 92.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: 92 is the number of the phone. We're going to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: cross to the UK and talk to Peter Chapman, Peter Anderson,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: all about William Chapman, the fellow who got eaten by
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: a tiger. And then President Trump reposted the video. We'll
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: talk about that story and more. And still to come,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: what's really happening with the kids at Starship Hospital in
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the cancer ward? It's early edition on Newstalk ZB.
• 17:43
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• 17:57
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• 17:57
  Speaker 10: So you know that voice. It's Olivia Deen.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: She's just had a run of great concerts in Australia,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: sold out the Rod Laver Arena multiple times in Melbourne
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and now comes to New Zealand and 30,000 people are
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: going to turn up tomorrow at Western Springs. We're going
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: to talk more about this with Neva Retomano in a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: few moments' time. It's going to be a really cool concert. Hey,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Manama Davidson and this drug rehabilitation programme, she said that
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the Greens would support another one funded by the government,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: including mongrel mob participation. The first such programme was very
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: heavily politically weaponised. And it got reduced down by, of course,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: National and Mark Mitchell down to Labour government gives money
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to gangs, which they did, kind of. They gave it
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: to Harry Tam, ex-Mob member in his health consultancy, hard
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to reach. But the real question is, the $ 2. 75 million,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: did it work? Well, today the Herald has republished a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: deep dive by Derek Ching into Kahakura, which is the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: name of the program, funded by the government, run by
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Harry Tam. This was first published in May. And I
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: read it this morning. I didn't read it in May.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I missed it in May. Surprise, surprise. The thing worked.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It was Mirai-based. It dealt with 80 addicts. Most kicked
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the habit. Not many relapsed. And all that came through
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it praised the tikanga aspect of it, the by-the-mob-for-the-mob approach.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: The best thing they loved about it was it was
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: on a Mirai. So it worked. Put it this way.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: If this program was run by the Salvation Army, we'd
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: be saying, what a great success. But because it was
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: run by Harry Tam, we look at it another way.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Around the country we go. Callum Proctor from Dunedin. Good
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: morning to you. Morning, Andrew. Got an award-winning oncologist in Otago.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: Yes, this is a gentleman who's pretty well known to
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: many in these parts, and he's been rich. for his
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: role in improving cancer care across New Zealand. Professor Christopher
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Jackson has received the Health Research Council's Beaven Medal for
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: two decades of research and advocacy that's helped shape national
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: cancer policy. He says his research is focused on problems
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: patients face before.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Reaching the clinic, like late.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And varying standards of care.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: Jackson says he saw these issues every day in his
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: work and he realised that they were features of a
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: system that wasn't working properly. He says if you want
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: to help people at the worst time of their lives,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: you need to fix the system. But a lot more
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: work still lies ahead.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Getting a cold spell, are we? Yeah, it's been back
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to winter here the last few days.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: The high today is just 10 again with that southerly,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: but it clears to fine early afternoon.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And I thank you. Claire Sherwood joins us from Christchurch,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: where I understand it's even colder than Dunedin.
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: It's so cold at the moment.
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: It's miserable.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, dear. OK, Christchurch Airport's gone solar.
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, this is Corfy Park, the big solar farm that
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: they've been working on out at the airport. It officially
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: opened yesterday. It's 230 hectares in size. 300,000 panels are
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: there with enough capacity to power 36,000 homes. To give
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: you an idea of the scale, this is enough solar panels,
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: if you put them end to end, to stretch all
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: the way from Christchurch to Hamilton. It's Contact Energy's work
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: and job. The chief executive, Mike Fuge, says it's the
• 21:10
  Speaker 11: company's first solar farm and it is the largest solar
• 21:13
  Speaker 11: farm we have in the South Island. He says there's
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: something really fitting about the project being here in Christchurch,
• 21:18
  Speaker 11: a city that is known for its ability to adapt,
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: innovate and rebuild, while airport chief executive Justin Watson says
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: this is just to the beginning. They've earmarked additional space
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: for more solar at the airport as well, with hydrogen
• 21:32
  Speaker 11: also looking like the future fuel for commercial aviation. They
• 21:35
  Speaker 11: have a hydrogen test site operating at the airport too.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: All right, so Mount Hutt closed on the weekend and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they had a big old party, but they could stay open.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: What's it like today with the weather? It's really cold.
• 21:46
  Speaker 11: Showers clearing this afternoon with a few fine spells, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: then gusty southerlies as well. Very windy out there at
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: the moment. Making our way to 11. It's 7 right now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Can you see snow? Yes, on all of the mountains.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And it feels like snow too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Oh dear.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I thank you. Meanwhile, to Tropical Wellington, Max Toll,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: good morning to you.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Good morning.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: You had a driver in court after a crash.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a crash Wednesday night up Kapiti Ways.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: A disqualified driver's in court now. For driving about 200
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: kilometers per hour, police observed him driving erratically Wednesday, leaving
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: the highway at Waikanae, getting back on, going 200, then
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: crashing into the wire barrier near the Ngadara Bridge on
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night. The driver was assessed and not too badly hurt,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: but debris was spread across all lanes. There was disruption
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: for drivers. The 35-year-old is charged with failing to stop
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: reckless driving and driving while disqualified in court Tuesday.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Rainy with gale southerlies this morning. The wind's going to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: be quite strong and biting all day. The high just
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: nine degrees in the city.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Lovely. Now to Auckland, we go. Good morning to you.
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So currently in Auckland, it's 10 degrees and it's raining
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: right now. And if Olivia Dean was playing at this
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: moment and I was in a poncho, I'd be upset.
• 23:04
  Speaker 13: I'm just trying to think of you in a poncho, actually.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Not about Olivia Deen.
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: You'd have several.
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: Well, you are Mr.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Music Man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Are you going? Yeah, of course I am.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: I knew you would.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I bought tickets for the first gig when it was
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: under a roof.
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: Well, you were lucky because so many people missed out.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so the thing is, she's happening.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: She's happening.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: The bowl has a limit of $ 30, 000, though some people
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: are saying that maybe they might have sold more tickets,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: but we'll find out. Well, yeah, we'll find out.
• 23:26
  Speaker 13: I mean, look, it's sold out.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But it means a lot of people in Greyland.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: And so the Greyland businesses, they are preparing for Olivia
• 23:33
  Speaker 13: Dean mania tomorrow. The businesses there, you know, obviously in
• 23:37
  Speaker 13: Western Springs Bowl, they're hoping, you know, for a boost and,
• 23:41
  Speaker 13: you know, for their businesses as well. So Carolyn Tau Iwi'i,
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: now she's the Greyland Business Association general manager. She said
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: tomorrow all the shops, they're all coming together. They'll be
• 23:52
  Speaker 13: offering Olivia Dean inspired nails, manicure. So, Andrew, you know what?
• 23:56
  Speaker 13: You can get that done. They've got cocktails and hair treatments.
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: Everyone's coming out. She's hoping that people make the most
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: of it. If you're going, even if you're not going,
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: you know, just go over there to Grey Lynn and,
• 24:07
  Speaker 13: you know, soak up the atmosphere.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Have a drink, have a meal. You cannot get a
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: park in Grey Lynn when there's a concert at Western Springs.
• 24:13
  Speaker 13: Excuse me, CRL, jump on a train.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, then you can go to Morningside or Baldwin Ave
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and you're going to have to walk for two to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: three kilometres.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Mr Negativity.
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: No.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Come on now.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: No.
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: Well, look, this will make you feel better. Goodness sake,
• 24:26
  Speaker 13: I'm trying here. Weather-wise, tomorrow is going to be wonderful. Sunshine,
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: no rain, no wind, a high of 16 tomorrow.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: 16 degrees, eh?
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: Today, though, shall I talk about our weather today? Showers
• 24:38
  Speaker 13: easing this afternoon, clearing tonight, a high of 16 here.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: In Auckland today.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Never.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You missed my editorial at the beginning. What was it? Well,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: there's no trains nearby. The public transport nearby is terrible.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: There's no parking nearby. And not only that, the council
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: hasn't put any bike parks in for idiots like me
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: who like to take e-bikes to the door. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: Have a happy day. Look, you shouldn't be going.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: To Olivia Dean if you're negative like that. I can't wait.
• 25:02
  Speaker 13: Hey, how are you getting there with all this then?
• 25:04
  Speaker 13: Are you getting dropped off?
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Don't know yet. Honestly, do not know.
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: Well, I won't be dropping you off. I can tell
• 25:09
  Speaker 13: you that now.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye. 17 to 6, Newstalk ZB. On Kahukura, the thing
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that I just talked about, we had Derek Cheng doing
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: an article on this. It's been reprinted in the Herald,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: says it's work. Adrian disagrees. He says there was a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: review and it showed that the drug addicts were taking
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: drugs at the course and doing Harry Tam's gardening at
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: his house. I'll try and find it and we'll text
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the link. Please do, Adrian, because Mr. Cheng went through
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: hundreds of pages of reports and and wrote this up,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and yeah, it wasn't 100% perfect. Eight people were caught
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: bringing in contraband, which ain't good, but then that happens
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: in every single program. Meanwhile, here's an interesting point. Andrew,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: if the mob needs money to get attics clean and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: it works, why is the government funding? Why don't the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Maori tribes with their billions fund it? Fair point. It
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: is 16 to 6 to the UK. Next with Peter Anderson.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Zealand business.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It is now 13 minutes to 6. We're off to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the UK. Peter Anderson, good morning to you. Andrew, good morning.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So this poor fellow who got killed after climbing into
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a zoo tiger enclosure in Yorkshire, this story just blew
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: up after his death.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, details of the 24-year-old have emerged as an inquest
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: into his death. was formerly opened in Yorkshire, that's in
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: northern England. William Chapman died last Saturday after he climbed
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: into a tiger enclosure at a nearby wildlife park. The
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: incident was viewed by other visitors to the park and
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: shocking footage subsequently circulated online. Well, a coroner has now
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: revealed that Chapman had a history of mental illness, had
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: been diagnosed with schizophrenia and had also suffered bouts of psychosis.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: and it had emerged at the inquest that he'd been
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: receiving treatment from mental health specialists within the UK's National
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Health Service, but that questions have been raised about that treatment.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Catman's family, who chose not to attend the inquest's opening,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: were said to have expressed a number of concerns about
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: his contact with mental health services. Health bosses have now
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: launched an investigation into the death. And it also emerged
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: at the inquest that Chapman had to climb two fences
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: to enter the tiger enclosure. Local police have provided the
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: coroner with a number of witness statements from the public.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: And the wildlife park is being asked to keep any
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: relevant CCTV footage.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, President Trump shared footage of this poor kid being
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: killed by a tiger and the family rightfully so criticized
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: the president. And you have to wonder what the hell
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: he was thinking. Not very presidential behavior. Ronald Reagan would
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: never do something like that, Mr. Trump. Meanwhile, what has
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the British government got against Eritreans?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Official figures suggest that roughly one in five of all
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: migrants arriving in Britain by small boat is from Eritrea.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: And in the last 12 month period, nearly 6,000 Eritreans
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: arrived by boat. but the East African nation has accepted
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: the return of only seven people. The UK did return
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: an additional 244 Eritreans to other countries, according to official
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: British government figures. Eritrea has now been warned it will
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: face action if it fails to accept the return of
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: more small boat migrants from the UK. as well as
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: foreign national offenders. All Eritreans could be banned from entering
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: the UK. Fast-track visas for Eritrean VIPs could be stopped.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: And diplomats from Eritrea, based here in the UK, could
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: have their movements restricted. And that could mean any journeys
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: more than 60 kilometres from London would need official permission.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: Britain's Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, who's announced the actions against Eritrea,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: has also widened her warnings. She said that the UK
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: wouldn't hesitate to target other countries as well if they
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: refuse to cooperate on the return of their citizens who've
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: arrived illegally here in the UK.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: OK, and I thank you so much. Peter Anderson from
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the UK, 10 to 6. To Starship Hospital we go
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: where cancer treatments for children have been delayed and the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: claim is because there's not enough nurses to administer the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: medicine and the health minister says only a handful of
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: sessions were delayed and only by a few days and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: no more than a week. But Nurses Say Health New
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Zealand has known about these shortages.
• 29:33
  Speaker 10: August is just six weeks ago.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: We knew that there were shortages.
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: We knew that there were shortages across the year.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So this could have been prevented. So Malcolm Mulholland is
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the chair of Patient Voice Aotearoa, joins me now. Malcolm,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: good morning to you. What's really going down?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is about shortage of staff, but I've had
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the families reach out to me via an intermediary and
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: they're scared and raked with stress. They don't believe the
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: minister because the way in which this news has gotten
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: out to the community. So they just want the truth.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So the minister says it's less than a week delay.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Is that really making difference to the treatment?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: It can do in certain circumstances. So it's not uncommon
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: for children to receive treatment over successive days rather than weeks.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: It really does depend on the regime that they've been
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: put on. And that's a question that the minister needs
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: to answer.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Do you believe the minister when he says it's just
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: a few days delay?
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Look, it could very well be that. But again, we
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: need to know what the regime is that these children
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: who are being affected are on. Once that can be determined,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: then you can decide what the impact is on the
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: children and what the impact is on patient safety.
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: Is this a.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Symptom of the government's nurses hiring freeze or are the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: two cases unrelated?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: No, they're definitely related. And we're currently on a nationwide
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: tour looking at the health system. We started in Bluff.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: We're now up in Auckland. We've been hearing that right
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: throughout the country. There's been a hiring freeze and it's
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: coming home to roost.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: There are people who say, and they say it on
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the Talkback quite a lot, you know, all of a sudden,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: come election time, we get all these stories being leaked
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: all about a degrading health system. and that it is
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: politically motivated by people who would like a change in
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the government. Is this a politically motivated release of news
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in your opinion or not?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know who the whistleblower was. I am
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: thankful for the whistleblower, though, because what I would say
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: is nobody knew up until that point. And I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the way in which this has been handled, the messaging
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: that has come from the HNZ hierarchy, has been deplorable.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: This isn't about making you look bad. This is actually
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: about getting the truth out there so that families can
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: make an informed decision.
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  Speaker 2: Malcolm, I thank you for your time this morning. Malcolm Mulholland,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: who is the chair of Patient Voice Aotearoa. And that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: brings the time to seven minutes to six.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: To Olivia Dean. And earlier this morning, I complained about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the council is spending all these millions
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  Speaker 2: and couldn't even be bothered putting in a bike parking
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  Speaker 2: area because, of course, you can't get there in a car.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: You can't get there in a train. And the buses
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  Speaker 2: are terrible. And I'm one of those nutters who rides
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: an e-bike. And it actually works really, really well for
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a concert, but there's nowhere to park my bike. So
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  Speaker 2: there we go. Chris says, oh, Andrew, enjoy the concert,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: but so much for the cost of living crisis. Chris,
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  Speaker 2: can I just say, yes, there's a cost of living crisis,
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  Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean you stop living. You budget and
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you choose. And I think New Zealanders are still living
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: despite the cost of living crisis.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Morning to you.
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  Speaker 5: Morning.
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  Speaker 12: There isn't a cost of living crisis. And funnily enough,
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: we've got Gareth Kiernan from Infometrics this morning with his
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: latest report on the economy, which says it's real and
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  Speaker 12: we're growing and he's got some very good numbers and
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  Speaker 12: forecasts for us.
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  Speaker 2: So cost of living crisis. I think we're just in
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  Speaker 2: a fog. It's a slogan thing. I think we want
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  Speaker 2: to see misery.
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  Speaker 12: I think there's a lot of people who have just
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  Speaker 12: default position is things are bad, can't afford this, can't
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  Speaker 12: afford that. But every plane is full. Every concert sells out,
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  Speaker 12: which is not to say everyone's.
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  Speaker 2: Doing well by any stretch of the imagination. And they
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  Speaker 2: never have.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 12: And there will always be people who struggle. But by
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: and large, you're paying more for butter than you would want,
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  Speaker 12: but you can still afford to go out. A good
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: restaurant is still full. And that's the cold hard reality
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  Speaker 12: of life.
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  Speaker 2: I did a chicken meal last night, and I went
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: out and I paid $ 6 for the chicken. So there's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: plenty of protein out there if you want and if
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you think. But there we go. What are you doing?
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 2: What's the point of going to Western Springs?
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  Speaker 12: What was the whole point of that?
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  Speaker 8: Why?
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  Speaker 12: What do you gain by going there now?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: So for the Olivia Dean thing, so more people can go.
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  Speaker 3: It's a paddock.
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  Speaker 2: It is a paddock. It's a paddock with what? There's
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  Speaker 2: no stands. There's no seats. No, there is a stand.
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  Speaker 2: There's no fireworks. There's a concrete stand. There's a concrete stand.
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  Speaker 2: They spent millions terracing the hill because they were afraid
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  Speaker 2: that people would fall down it. And I've been to
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  Speaker 2: some great concerts. I went to Bowie, 90,000 people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but when was that?
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  Speaker 5: 1991.
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  Speaker 2: I went to ACDC five years ago. That was quite good.
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  Speaker 2: Foo Fighters this summer. Come on. Rock and roll.
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  Speaker 12: Will Jordan, speaking of the things you can go to.
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  Speaker 12: Will Jordan's with us out of Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Very good stuff. And I'm Andrew Dickens. I will be
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  Speaker 2: back Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Then Ryan's back full time. Have
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: a great weekend.
• 34:31
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