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Heartbreak, disappointment, the first loser. These words describe the runner up in
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anything from a championship game, to a race, even to a tournament.
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On this special episode of The Grill Out, three friends twenty competitors fighting for
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their shot at redemption for one royalty for the other nineteen obscurity. The Grill
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Up presents the twenty twenty four Key of the Ring runner Up Tournament. Hello,
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ladies and gentlemen, welcome to a special edition of The Grillout. I'm
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your host, Hollywood Jeff Patty, and I am joined by my illustrious co
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host, Ploral because the two of them. Yeah, hostess, you know
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I'm not a hostess. I I want to host this cake right now,
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Josh co Maybe I'm not a snack for you. Jeff, You're also not
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a chicken sandwich. Nope. Yeah. And the reflection of perfection Jason Likings.
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That's me. Yes, that is you. So this is me.
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It's a medium audio, so never do that. No, I will do
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what I want. No. But so this is a special edition of The
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Grill Up because WWE is doing their King of the Ring tournament today. Okay,
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when this podcast comes out, we queen, but there's only been one
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those. Yeah, we yeah, there's only been one Queen of the Ring.
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But they're doing both them and it's in Saudi Arabia. Correct, Yes,
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yes, yeah, okay, so they're doing their annual Saudi shows only
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the very first King of the Ring event since twenty fifteen, first time on
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pay per view since two thousand and two premium live event e l e.
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We pay per views. Yes, but that's not now now it's a plea.
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Yeah. I was gonna say, we don't need Nick con coming in
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here and correcting us. We could. I mean, I imagine it'd be
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good for ratings, heyn. If you're looking to be interviewed, you can
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call us. Do you think it'd be good for ratings? If I hit
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Josh with a chair, we could try. I mean, maybe let's do
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it for charity, for charity, yes, okay, I will pay us
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five dollars. Okay, all right, we got five dollars. Josh,
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you hear it. You're getting hit with a chair, all right, all
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right, put them hands up. Yees are wrapped around a chair. So,
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because of the King of the Ring tournament, we decided to go ahead.
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This is actually Jason is the one that originally pitched this idea, and
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we've been sort of working on this for the past few months. We've taken
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the runner ups for all of the King of the Ring tournaments excluding too yes,
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okay. And the reason why those two are disqualifies because they want it
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later on. Kurt Angle and Macho Man, Yeah, they are excluded from
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this. But the current participants for the King of the Ring runner up tournament
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on the grill out is the Iron Cheek, Pedro Morales, King Kong,
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Bundy, Rick Martel Erwin r Sister Irs, Bam Bam Bigelow, Razor Ramon,
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Sabbio Vega, Jake Roberts, Mankind, the Rock X, POC,
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Rikishi, RVD, Bobby Lashley, c M Punk, John Morrison, Neville,
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Chad Gable and Finn Balor. Okay, And there are a few things
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that you have to remember with this. Okay. The Rock is not the
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Rock as we know it now. This is the Nation of Domination Rock,
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Yes, okay. This is not in the main event of matches Rock.
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Yeah. And same thing for like Jake Roberts. We're not talking like nineteen
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eighties, Jake Roberts, We're talking nineteen ninety six he lost to Stone Cold.
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Yes, okay, that's the Jake Roberts we're talking about. Yes,
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so Nell, not pac Yes, not poc Neville specifically twenty fifteen Neville.
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So if you would like to do Jason, you can give us because it's
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we're starting off with a wild card round right, yes, round one?
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There are four matches, yep? Okay, Jeff, do you want to
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go down the rules that we have? Okay? So, as as far
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as rules, since there is three of us here, there's not gonna be
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a tie on the vote. We you know, Jason gives the matches.
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We vote on who we think is going to go over and said match.
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If there is a discrepancy amongst us, like a two to one vote,
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then we will go to sort of a debate. So that's pretty much everything
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you need to know about it as far as I know, I think.
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Yeah, okay, Josh, are you ready? Yes, sir, Jeff?
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Are you ready? I am ready? Okay? Opening round one,
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Match one, we have John Morrison versus Jake the Snake Roberts. Who do
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you got? I'm going Morrison Morris Lewson. Okay, wow, I was
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going Jake, but no, I will I will save my Actually, no,
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what I was thinking. Okay, here's what I'm seeing in it.
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Morrison goes for the starship pain, Jake rolls out, gets up, kick
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to the gut DDT. That's it. But if you still want to go
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Morrison, I'm happy to go with it. I am going to go with
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Morrison simply because as to what we stated, this is nineteen ninety six.
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Jake Roberts. Yes, if this were late eighties Jake Roberts, different story.
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Yes, I could see what the scenario you just laid out. I
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could see that happening with you know, but keep in mind for what my
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argument could be every time we disagree, is not this is a nineteen ninety
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six Jake Robert. Right, yes, but it's also a runner up.
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Jake Robert. Yeah, we have a point there, but all of them
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are runner ups. So yeah, it is what it is. I'm gonna
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say they kind of cancel some of them. Yeah, I think Roberts would
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make Morrison look good anyways. Oh yeah, I mean like Roberts is and
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it's not He's not underrated. He is one of the greatest psychological minds in
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professional wrestling. I mean, just go watch old old royal Rumbles, Like,
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I think he's one of the first people that kind of went into the
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match and was like, I'm just gonna sit back. Yeah, I just
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wonna let everybody else wear themselves out. So you both are going Morrison still
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going to Morrison? Okay, well then we will go Morrison here, all
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right? Okay Morrison is one. Next match, Bobby Lashley versus Rikishy.
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Who do you got, Jeff Bobby Lashley versus Rakishey, we're talking two thousand
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and six e c W Champion Bobby Lashley. Oh, that's my choice.
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We're talking. We're talking also like two thousand I did it for the Rock
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Rakishi exactly, which I'm pretty sure is who set Cody's bus on fire.
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It was Rakishi because he did it for the Rock, he did it for
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the people. Yeah hmm. That's an interesting interesting matchup because was it Rakeishi
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in like a six way match that year in Armageddon for the WA Championship where
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they did the They say it was a choke slam. It was a choke
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push. It was a choke shove where he landed in the back of the
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truck full of cedar chips and pats that had been terrifying though. Yeah,
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I mean he's a big guy, just and I'm just saying, anybody like
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you just falling, just straight back and I'm looking Spike Dudley would do it,
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no problem. Oh yeah, I mean you have Rakeshi one. Rakeshi
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climbed the hell in a cell to get up there. Good point, Good
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point anyways, So yeah, Bobby Lashley Rakishi, I'm going Bobby Lashley.
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I am also going Bobby Lashley. Yeah, I could see it being Rakeshi,
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but again we're talking ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley. Yeah. I also
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think that it is uh that match would line up more for trying to give
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an idea of what Bobby Lashley would have to come down the road, because
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you know, if he did the dominator to Rakishi or anytime that he would
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pick Rakeshi up, it's going to make Bobby Lashley look like a million bucks.
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Yeah. Yeah, Okay, Match three Mankind versus Savio Vega. Josh,
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who do you have? I've got Mankind Mankind, which my choice just
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man because I I'm not that familiar with Sevivega. Okay, that's fair,
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I'm not either, but I know that he had some he did have a
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good program with Austin. He did. Yeah, I think it was right
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as he went first went to the stone cold character. If mine serves me
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correct, Vega is he is good? He is? You know, Yeah,
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Savio Vega was a great worker. Underrated He still is. He's still
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doing it underrated work. I agree. But talking nineteen ninety seven, Mankind,
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we're talking was this when he was when Paul Beher was his manager,
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because this is this is before the title, this was before he won the
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world title. It potentially could be it's still in the kind of like boiler
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room time of Mankind. Though. M okay, well you're thinking, okay,
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go ahead, I would go Savio Vega. And here's how. Okay,
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Mankind initially wins, but he keeps the mandible claw on, so the
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match gets overturned for Savio Vega being the winner. I was I was thinking
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of something similar to that. I feel like that Mankind would allow his emotions,
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his unstableness to kind of get the best of him towards the end of
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the match, like he could he could be destroying Savio. Yeah, and
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then just at the end, you know, I'm actually gonna go Savio on
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that one. I'm trying to conceding too, because I think with this Salvio
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Vega would need it more than Mankind because the thing that got Mankind mcfoley over
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in WCW was how he lost. Yes, so I think this would be
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one of those instances. Yeah, exactly. And and with this scenario,
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you Savio Vega does not you know, he looks credible somewhat going forward,
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he gets to win. Nevertheless, he gets to move on and Mankind,
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yes, it doesn't look weak. And I will say that Savio progressing will
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highly play into my next round. But okay, the final final one for
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the first round. Final one for the first round, and it might be
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a toughie Razor Ramone versus c M punk Ooh yeah, Jeff, who you
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have? This is two thousand, two thousand and eight CM punk taken on
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nineteen ninety four Razor Ramone. Yeah, this'll let you think about that.
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A lot of my choices are based on later matchups as well, Okay,
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as they go along. So okay, I'm gonna go Ramone. I'm going
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to Razor Ramone. I can see this would have been world heavy with champion
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punk Yeah, but I feel like it's still, I feel like the veteran
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Razor is going to get because Punk is like, even though he is a
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veteran at this time in the world of professional wrestling, but as a world
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champion NWW and everything, he is still relatively young, relatively new. I
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think the experience with Razor is going to play more into it. Okay,
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Josh, what do you think I'm going to see him Punk, Go and
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see him Punk. Okay, see him Punk best in the world. Here's
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the thing. Oh, I'm sorry going going. Uh I was gonna say,
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I mean, Razor Ramone is crazy is I didn't see him too much
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as Razor Ramones. I didn't quite see his greatness in so I saw him
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as Scott Hall and I just feel like, even still then I'm going to
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see him Punk. I will say you missed out a lot with Razor Ramone.
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Then Yeah, as much as I would love to say Razor Ramone,
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I'm putting CM Punk on the kind of one two three kids scale here,
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and I'm saying Flash win for CM Punk kind of a roll up and also
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like that kind of that does make sense because where Punk is a big fan
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of like old school like wrestling type stuff, I could see him going for
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something now that what I was hoping would happen, because this is a random
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generated one. Yeah. Yeah, because I was hoping that it would have
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been Razor Ramone versus x poc oh, because I mean that's later rendition of
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one two three kid. But what we have is Razor Ramonte cempunk. So
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Josh and I are both going to seem punk. So Jeff, what do
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you think? I know you said Razor. I also just feel like a
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benefit punk more. That's true, that's true, I'll go punk. I'll
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just yeah, that way we can get out of the first round. And
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I like, I like the argument of it's it's going to be a one
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two three kid type deal will roll up because you because who knows Ramon could
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be in there just just whipping them lasting, right, And yeah, I
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mean the way one two three kid did it was the moon Salt off the
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top rope hit Razor Ramone got the flash one two three off of it.
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Yeah, and then that's whenever the kid became the one two three kid.
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Yeah. And I also I don't like I could see Punk like setting up
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for the GTS but not hitting it on Ramone and something like that happening,
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yeah, because I mean I think it'd be one of those things of like,
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oh, look at how much bigger Razor Ramone is. Then see him
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punk and then he gets him up and yeah, okay, okay, So
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we're out of the first round. Second, yes, we are. Now
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in the first match of round two. We have Chad Gable versus John Morrison.
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Josh, what do you think? So they both have great background like
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in real wrestling amateur wrestling should say, but I feel like Chad Gable is
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basically at the Kurd Angle here and I'm gonna go Chad Gable, You're gonna
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go, Yeah, Gable, I feel he's gonna ede him out just a
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little bit more and well edges and this that's true Edge one actually one o
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King of the Ring as Kurd Angle. That was one. Yeah, that's
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when Angle had his head shaped right. Yeah, what year Chad Gable is?
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This is twenty twenty nineteen, I think before he became Shorty No,
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shorty God, that's terrible. So wait a minute, so are we talking
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like Alpha Academy like with Jason Jordan Chad Gable right now? I think this
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is like right after this is whenever they were doing the Kurd Angle son is
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Jason Jordan. Time should have been Chad, It should have it should have
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been Yeah, absolutely, the story, the story was there just because of
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that. I'm going to go Morrison. Really. Yeah, if we're talking
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like n x T, you know Alpha Academy, Yeah, Chad Gable,
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Chad Gable with Jason Jordan, we're talking that, or if we're talking current
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American Alpha, American Alpha. Okay, I knew I was getting the name
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American Alpha Chad Gable possibly if we're talking Chad Gable now, I could see
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it, but that version of Chad Gable, I could see Morrison doing it.
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Wow, Okay, see I was I was also going Chad Gable because
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Chad Gable has always had this like ground swell of support behind it, and
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so I think especially at that time where it was, Okay, you know,
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this is Jason Jordan, is Kurt Angle's son, illegitimate son or whatever.
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But put Chad Gable out there. I see John Morrison making him look
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like a million bucks, but Chad Gables still getting the wine. Tell me
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why you think it would be Morrison? Why do I think it would be
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Morrison? See if you can sway me here because I just I think that
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with it being twenty nineteen, Chad Gable, I just with what was Yes,
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he had the ground swell of support, but I don't I just I
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don't see him him doing that John Morrison. What was John Morrison doing it
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in twenty ten? Also, we are viewing this as though this is all
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a one night tournament. Yes, yes, yeah it is. It's a
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one night tournament. But these versions of them are the It's kind of like
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if we we had a time machine, we went back, we grabbed and
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we brought him to the present. I'm what's Morrison doing in twenty ten?
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I can't, I can't cannot remember exactly. I just for some reason,
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I just have a feeling that it's it would be Morrison. Did Morrison ever
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went win the ECW OR world title? Yes? Was it in? Was
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it around this time? It would have been before that because the title was
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retired in early twenty ten. Mm okay, okay, so we're already talking
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like former world champion John Morrison. Well, also, John Morrison would have
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been in a match with Jake Roberts, that's true. Then he comes into
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this with Chad Gable and Chad's fresh right, Yes, oh, Chad,
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I didn't think about that. Yeah, Chad is fresh. Ah. Okay,
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yep, you know what that I think that one actually swayed me.
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I completely forgot that Chad was Chad was the fresh one in US. Yeah,
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because technically the first round was a wild card round. Yes, you
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know, Chad, I should have told you that. It's okay, Yeah,
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Chad went on to the next round. Actually, as we go on,
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just you know, point out which one. Actually I'll go with Chad
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on that one now now that you pointed that out. Okay, So in
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twenty ten he was just having some matches. He had some championship matches,
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but didn't win any of those matches. Okay, okay, so we are
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going Chad Gable then yep. Okay. So here is finally one that is
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well, not not finally. It is a very large time gap though.
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Okay, Okay, we have Finn Balor versus Pedro Morales. So we have
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twenty twenty one Finn Balor, Yeah, taken on nineteen eighty six Pedro Morales.
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Yes, oh did it? Uh gotta look something up real quick,
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go ahead, go ahead and talk amongst yourselves. So, Josh, what
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year was Pedro Morales the Icy champ. That's what I'm looking up. Okay,
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I was was it late eighties or early nineties? I don't think it
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was early nineties. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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I do know he was the very first triple Crown champion. And this
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is twenty twenty one, Finn Ballor. Yeah, so Judgment Day Finn Baler,
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is that who we're dealing with? Or was this before he went with
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Judgment Day? I think it's it's right before, I believe, yeah,
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right before Judgment Day. Okay, Okay, so this is kind of so
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Okay, Pedro Morales won the title, won the Icy title in nineteen eighty
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Okay, so this is six years after that. Okay, yeah, so
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he did win the world title, right, Yeah, that was before Okay,
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yeah, that was in the seventies. Okay. Honestly, with that
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in mind, even though this is not like full Finn Balor, like not
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even demon Finn Balor, I'm gonna give it to Finn. I'm gonna give
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the edge to him. I'm going Pedro, going Pedro. Yeah, okay,
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I'm also going Pedro. Okay, all right, you can can try
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to try to convince me on this one veterans knowledge on that. Yeah,
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just because this is also I mean, just another thing that I think would
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be a catalyst for making Finn Balor go more judgment Day. He was kind
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of like the cracks were already there at the time. I think this would
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just help further that character arc because you have the long established VET at this
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point. I mean, also, who did Finnbauer lose to in this tournament?
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Baron Corbyn? The actual tournament? Oh, Aaron, Oh it was
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yeah, completely forgot about that. Oh, the one who retired Kurting's that's
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true. And Morales looking at it right now, he was in the WWF
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for a couple more years after this. He retired in nineteen eighty seven,
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so this is one year, a couple of years nineteen eight well, actually
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no, I thought it was eighty six. It was it was eighty six,
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So this is one year before his so called retirement according to I mean
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this is Wikipedia, but I think he did a couple other things, but
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this was. Yeah, so we're at the we're basically at tail end Pedro
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Morales and pre judgment Day Finn Balor. I mean, I would say give
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it to Morales, give him his at least one king of the ring branch
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match. Let Finn lose be more of a catalyst for those cracks breaking even
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larger. Yeah, that's just me. That's just looking at this from a
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potential story point perspective. Josh, do you have anything to add? Yeah?
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God, And I was gonna say, and maybe, like where you
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did talk about how the veteran's knowledge would play into this, like maybe he
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was able to ink something out like at the very end, I mean,
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Ballor could be laying it to him in there. Yeah, Ballor could be
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winning the entire match. And then he goes for one move in particular,
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misses that gets some and Pedro stalk a guy. Yeah, you know,
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he's a lot of power. Even though this is yeah, about a year
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before he retires, so he still still has that power. He's you know,
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actually, yeah, I'll give it the page. And also remember long,
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you know, a while back, wrestlers were retiring at a much younger
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age. Yeah, so we all going Pedro. Yeah, yep, I'm
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gonna go, yep, going Pedro. Next one is a fresh x poc
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so not wrestled yet, against Bobby Lashley two thousand and six. Bobby Lashley
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taking on a fresh at nineteen ninety nine x POC. This is Bobby Lashley
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who previously went against Rakishi. Yes, so he's got to be a little
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little tired, so he has gone from one end of the weight spectrum to
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the other end. That's true, that's true. I'm giving it the Lashly
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Lashly Okay, Josh. As much as this could be one two three kid
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situation, I'm going to lash as well. See, I would love for
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it to play out almost identical to one two three Kid versus Razor ramone where
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he goes for the back flip, Lashly catches him and just finishes it.
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Yeah. So because because even though he went through the match with Rakishi,
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and he's coming in there, he's gassed, he's tired, He's Bobby lash
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He's Bobby lash And they call it XPOC heat for a reason, Like yeah,
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yeah, he probably made somebody mad to where they're going to bear you
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know where this is gonna happen to him out there? Okay, Bobby Lashing
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moves on. Okay. Do you all see this as a like competitive match
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or a squash match? What between the two? Yeah? I see it
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as a little bit of both. I see I see Lashley coming out,
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yeah, and sort of like in a in the beginning squash like a squash
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match in the beginning, but starting to gas a little bit and x POC
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starting to you know, capitalize on that. But ultimately he can't like like
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what you say, his backflip lastly catches him, finishing him right there.
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So next match is the Rock Nation of Domination Rock versus Neville, a man
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who gravity for God. So nineteen ninety eight Rock taken on twenty fifteen neveal
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Nation of Domination Rock. He was he was Icy Champion at this time.
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Correct or I think he won that year around It was around this time.
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Yeah, okay, so not made of Rock, not final Boss Rock Nope
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is somewhere around the Icy title Rock yeah, right right as he first joined
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the Nation of Domination. Yes, when Rocky Myavia went away and the Rock
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came to stay. Okay, and twenty fifteen Neville. I don't know of
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anything very spectacular on that one. I just don't. I'm going to rock,
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Josh, I am going to go Neville. Okay, Well, Josh,
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it is going to be up to you to convince us on this one,
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because I'm also going to Rock. The only thing for me that Neville
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ever had was his finisher, because they gave him a stupid entrance attire.
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Now, if this were park, different different different story. But the man
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that Gravity forgot, yeah, Champion, I still love the park, screamed
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that the guy at the wrestler named Gravity, you will not define me.
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That was amazing, Josh, Josh convinced us for Neville, let's see younger.
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I think he was younger at this time. Was he younger just time?
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I don't know about that. I think he's more athletic. For one.
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Uh, the Rock has always been good about putting people over, and
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I don't think the Rock needs this because I feel like the Icy was more
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for him than a King of the Ring. I don't know, I just
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I just feel like that you're really committed to Neville. I feel like they're
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just going to feed Neville to them. Yeah, because because yeah, they
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got the Icy title on them. I feel like Rock's gonna go deep in
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this tournament. Okay, well, Josh, let me tell you this.
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Whoever wins this match, they then go against Bobby Lashley. And that's why
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I chose, That's why I said. My choices played until later. So
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I'm still sticking with the Rock because I think the Rock Bobby Lashley is a
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lot sexier of a match, yeah than Neville. I see, I don't
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know. I just I was never really blown away with Neville. No,
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when I chose this, because I actually wrote these down wild back. Yeah,
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I think my mind was also still thinking in pac as opposed to Nevill's.
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Yes, that's fair, like I'm I at times am struggling, Like
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with Jake Robert's versus John Morrison. I'm like, no, that's like old
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school Jake the Snake, not stone cold. Steve Austin just got done beating
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them. Yeah, as yeah, so I am sorry, Josh, but
27:15
the Rock has won this with two votes to one. Rock's going over on
27:19
that one. How many? How many matches have we got left in this
27:23
round? Four? Four? Okay, the next one is a really easy
27:27
one for me. But you have a fresh Rick the Model Martel What year
27:33
nineteen eighty nine? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that is Model year against a
27:41
already wrestled Savio Vega. Mm hmm, Savio Vega's good though. Yeah,
27:48
I'll tell you right now though, just the way that I booked it in
27:52
my head it's gonna be Rick Martel. If Savio Vega won by them overturning
28:00
the mankind victory, which which in an our scenario in this they did,
28:06
Yeah, we overturned it. It went to Yeah, honestly, I could
28:10
see Martino. I could see it being an easy victory for Martel. Yes,
28:11
even though Savio Vega again like, well, I know that we've said
28:15
this. This would be the third time. He is a very underrated worker
28:18
Martel. In my original thing, I had mankind going over in the first
28:25
match, and then if this had been the match Ricky Martel, Rick Martel
28:27
versus Mankind, I would have had mankind go over there. Okay, but
28:30
yeah, I don't have any good heart argument, so I'm gonna go with
28:33
Rick Martel. I don't really I'm not familiar at all with Rick Martel,
28:36
so okay, definitely worth looking up. Rick Martel was in a tag team
28:41
with Tito Santana. Then he turned on Tito Santana and became the model Rick
28:48
Martel where he had this it was like a bug sprayer, but it was
28:53
of his cologne called arrogance. So what I would see is, you know,
28:57
this exhausted Salvio Vega coming out barely getting there, Rick Martel gets the
29:03
ref distracted, sprays him with the arrogance Salvio Vegas. Blinded, Rick Martel
29:10
takes out his leg, puts him in the Boston Crab and that's it.
29:11
His finisher was the Boston Crab. So I say, Rick Martel, yep,
29:17
Martel goes over. Okay, now this this is a different one.
29:22
It's a different one. You have King Kong Bundy versus Rob Van Damn,
29:30
Jeff, and we're talking nineteen eighty seven King Kong Bundy. So this was
29:36
wrestlemane. That was WrestleMania four? Was that year? Am I correct?
29:41
Was that three? Because one was? Yeah, eighty seven three Okay,
29:48
so WrestleMania two was Hogan King Kong Bundy, Yes, and then King Kong
29:53
Bundy never main evented again. Yeah. And we're talking like Invasion and you
30:00
know Intercontinental Champion Rob Van Damn right now, like everybody, like all sides
30:07
of the Invasion wanted RVD. Yeah, the whole show. Yeah, the
30:11
whole Dagon show, that whole flipping show. I'm going rv D. Yeah,
30:18
RVD. I think it would be entertaining, absolutely, But yeah,
30:25
I'm definitely going RVD and I am not stalling because this computer just keeps spinning.
30:32
Okay, there we go. So now we have a Bam Bam Bigelow
30:37
against on that is a fresh bam bam Bigelow, no previous matches against a
30:44
already one Charles Montgomery punk So oh oh man nineteen ninety three Bam Bam Bigelow
30:56
sety three? Is that a Lawrence Taylor wrestlemine Bam bam Bigelow? I think?
31:03
So? Hold on? What was that was that? WrestleMania eleven?
31:07
I want to say that was ten? No ten was a that was the
31:12
Brothers. That was Owen Hart brad Hart who was in the main event of
31:15
ten. I can't remember. Ten was also the lighter match between Razor and
31:19
Sean Well, then ten the main event would have been Yogo Zoo and brad
31:29
Hart. Yeah, okay, yeah, so it wasn't ten because the main
31:33
event of whichever WrestleMania was was Bam Bam Bigelow versus Lawrence Taylor. Yeah that
31:41
was ninety five, Okay, so this is ninety three Bam bam. This
31:45
is ninety three bad ninety three Bam bam. Okay, So this eleven could
31:49
be around the time that he's feuding with Doink. But I mean, nevertheless,
31:59
like Bam Bam is a force to be reckoned with one of the best
32:01
big men of all time. Absolutely, and we're talking a fresh Bam Bam.
32:07
And that's why I'm going to see him punk. That's why you're going
32:08
to see him Punk? Is it? Are you going? I am actually
32:12
going to see him Punky. That's not the reason. I just story wise,
32:19
throughout the throughout the tournament, it would be pretty interesting to have Punk
32:22
get one over on Bam Bam, bamam. And if he's feuding with Dooink
32:29
at the time and we're kind of we're not talking main event WrestleMania against Lawrence
32:34
Taylor Bam Bam No, but I could also see Dooint coming out distracting Bam
32:39
Bam. Yes, you know, even if it's just on the the Terrible
32:45
Titan Tron that they had back in the nineties, and even if seeing Punk
32:47
is gassed, like you know what, I might go Punk on this one.
32:51
I really want to go Bam bam, you know what. Okay,
32:52
Josh, tell me, why do you think it's going to be punk?
32:55
Because I want to see him to love the way. Okay, that was
32:59
a terrible I'm like, okay, Josh, help me story wise, help
33:04
me, you know, get me in this, and you I want to
33:06
see him win. I feel like Punk would be much better for Punk than
33:09
Bam Bam. Like, yeah, you just said that you want to see
33:14
him go? Yeah? How like, how is he doing this? How
33:16
is he winning it? I like the idea of you saying that point comes
33:22
out. I don't see I see Bam Bam destroying Punk. Honestly, if
33:27
Punk moves on, I don't see. I don't see him going all the
33:30
way. I don't see. I could see him inching away from Bam Bam,
33:34
just barely, like he's you know, he's he's running out of luck
33:37
through this tournament. But I could see him, you know. So he
33:42
gets kind of two fluke wins back to back, yep, but he ain't.
33:46
He's not getting a third one. Yeah see, I'm also fine going
33:50
Punk. I just wanted to see what you all thought. That's that,
33:52
That is my that's my argument for Punk. So Josh, you you're going
33:55
Punk because you want to see him win. I didn't say win. And
34:01
also, if we're talking, if we were talking ninety five bam bam.
34:06
Yeah, I would go bam bam. If we were talking ECW bam bam,
34:10
I would go bam bam. But we're talking ninety three bam bam.
34:15
Bigelow. I just feel like Punk is going to He's going to inch By,
34:19
but I think he's just going to outsmart him. They're at the end
34:21
impossibly to dlink experience too, and just to add on to that, I
34:27
don't know if it's so much out smarting, but like if this were twenty
34:32
twelve Punk, possibly I could see him out smarting him there, because that
34:37
was what twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen was when he was when he went against
34:40
the Undertaker. No. Twenty fourteen is when he left. Twenty twelve was
34:45
when he went against the Undertaker. I think at WrestleMania twenty thirteen, WrestleMania
34:49
twenty nine, I could see that Punk like out smart him. But I
34:52
could see this one just kind of getting a fluke quin this version of Punk
34:55
two thousand and eight Punk. So that that's my that's my argument. Form
35:00
okay, okay. A final match in round two, we have Irwin R
35:06
Shyster I R S. What year is he nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety
35:10
one. So this is million dollars ink, Yes, I R S Erwin
35:16
R Shyster going against the Iron Chic. What year Iron Chic nineteen eighty five?
35:22
Nineteen eighty Oh, baby, that's about what four years? It's a
35:30
few years after after he was a transitional champion, I think yeah, a
35:37
year or so. Yeah, they skogan want or eighty four. Okay,
35:44
so this is just a year after that. Again, it's I R S
35:46
nineteen ninety one. I dude, it's cheeky baby. Yeah, yeah,
35:52
we don't even need to discuss it. It's cheeky baby all right now.
35:57
But with that, I mean, you have two heels. Do you see
36:00
any like either one of them kind of playing the baby face with it?
36:07
I really no. I could see ir S getting the sympathy though. Okay,
36:13
so she can't get no, he ain't no face. But here's kind
36:17
of how clutch here, Yeah, I mean, here's here's kind of how
36:21
I see it. Okay, you know you have the whole I R S
36:25
thing. Million dollar man comes down, tries to buy out Iron Chic.
36:30
Iron Sheek takes the money, so he takes the briefcase that irs has,
36:35
you know, with the money in it. The ref turns around, hits
36:38
I r s in the back of the head with the briefcase, puts him
36:42
in the camel clutch. That's it. Okay, So okay, that is
36:47
the end of round two, all right, and we are actually going to
36:51
stop it there. All right? How many more rounds we got left after
36:54
this three? I think? No? Well, yeah, we got the
36:58
quarterfinal, semifinals and then the finals. Yep. Okay, so we're gonna
37:01
end it there. We're gonna take a quick break, all right, Stay
37:06
tuned. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, back to the Grill Out King
37:25
of the Ring Runner Up Tournament Special. Basically that yeah, yeah, Basically,
37:30
I'm your host, Hollywood, Jeff Petty, and I'm joined by Josh
37:35
Cole Babee the Maestro, the Maestro, our belt collector, our belt expert
37:43
yep. And then we'll see in the future our current reigning and defending Grill
37:50
Out predictions. You see, I didn't want to say anything because I don't
37:53
know when this is airing. This is going to be airing the day of
37:58
the King and Queen of the Ring Tournament. So that well, then,
38:01
yeah, I will definitely still be the champ. That's either going to age
38:06
like fine line or actually wait, technically yeah yeah, your technically will still
38:10
be champed. Okay, because the last predictions are either at tie and you're
38:15
losing. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much. And see the previous either
38:22
either something crazy happened and I'm the champion, or what we thought was going
38:27
to happen happen and I'm not listening. That's why I have the champions advantage.
38:32
But that's not important right now. What's important right now is in our
38:37
King of the Ring runner up tournament. Yes, we are now at the
38:40
quarterfinals. Okay, Now do you want to break down of every quarter final
38:45
match or do you just want to go one by one for the sake of
38:51
the audience. Yeah, just go ahead and just give us the matches.
38:53
It's four matches, okay, well that would be quarter yes four four?
38:59
Yeah, yeah, listen. I know you and I both have a calm
39:02
degree, but that is listen, that is almost basic enough math for us.
39:08
I was gonna say, with with our brains connected with Josh's brain,
39:12
we can do this. We can. Yeah, Josh, next time you
39:16
have a thought, let it go, let it go. Okay. So
39:22
first match of the quarterfinals, we have Chad Gable versus Pedro Morales, which
39:27
will be followed up by Bobby Lashley versus The Rock nineteen ninety seven Rock right,
39:35
nineteen ninety eight Rock. Sorry, Then it is going to be Rick
39:38
Martel The Model versus Rob Van Dam and then finishing up the quarterfinals will be
39:45
Charles Montgomery Punk Cum Pup versus Make You Humble, Break Your Back the Iron
39:52
Chicaby. That's right, a man who cut a promo on a cartoon character
40:00
via Twitter. Oh, the Iron Shack is amazing. Quarterfinal round. Okay,
40:09
So Jeff, let's start with you, Chad Gable versus Pedro Morales.
40:13
Who you got and why? Nineteen eighty six Pedro Morales, right, Yeah,
40:20
So a few years later he would retire. Yeah, actually he retired
40:23
the next year. Okay, the next year, yeah, nineteen eighty seventy,
40:25
retired next year. I'm gonna give it to Chad Gable. Chad Gable,
40:31
I am because Pedro could do it. But if this were a few
40:36
years before, we're close to retirement. He's still a powerhouse. But Chad
40:40
is the younger, faster, just he want he to me, he's more
40:45
hungry going through this tournament, So I'm going with Chad. Okay, Josh,
40:49
let's go over to you. I agree with that. I had Chad
40:52
down as my winner here. It would do a lot more for him.
40:55
And like he said, Pedro is at the end of his career. He's
40:59
already been to World Champion, Triple Crown Champion by this point. This would
41:01
do so much more for Gable. You see, I'm the old man here
41:08
and I was wanting to give it to Pedro, but you both have convinced
41:13
me. Chad Gable will be going on to the semi finals. Yes,
41:21
to the semis get shorty. Oh that was such a terrible gimmick. Yeah,
41:28
it was so. Bobby Lashley ECW Heavyweight champion at this time, Bobby
41:34
Lashley, Yes, two thousand and six, Bobby Lashley versus nineteen ninety eight.
41:37
Not main event Rock. This is joining the Nation of Domination soon after
41:45
would be Intercontinental Champion. I do believe. So this is not main event
41:52
Rock, but it is kind of a main event. Bobby Lashley still very
41:58
blamed. Bobby Lashley. Yeah. And also we're so we're approaching this.
42:01
I'm assuming like like we're booking it not Vince, right, Yes, okay,
42:07
because if it's if this is Vince, Rock's going over because he will
42:10
not let the ECW World champion. No. And also if this was Vince,
42:14
King Kong Bundy would win. If this were Vents King Kong Bundy nineteen
42:19
eighty seven, King Kong Bundy. So refreshman, I know we're like plucking
42:23
them from time, but are we taking into consideration their future success or if
42:28
that future never existed? I thought we were just we were just going with
42:32
like the time period. Yeah, this is them from that time. So
42:36
so basically the way we described it in the first segment was like we we
42:39
have a time machine, we go back, we grab this specific version of
42:44
them and bring them to the present. So we're ignoring future success. Yes,
42:47
yes, yeah, the future stuff doesn't matter. But what does matter
42:52
is like things that were going on at that time, you know, potentially
42:58
storylines that they had going on. That's why I brought in the Bam Bam
43:01
dooint the clown? I say, yeah, that was yeah, because because
43:06
now now if that were like uh l t taken on Bam Bam, it
43:10
would have that that match would have been a little different. But this is
43:15
Bam Bam Bigelow feuding with nothing against doing just you know. So this one,
43:22
let's uh, let's start with you, Josh cole bebe Mobby Ashley versus
43:27
The Rock shortly after becoming The Rock previously or formerly known as Rocky Maya Villa.
43:37
Who do you got? I Christ because this this changed from my previous
43:45
thing is previous when I had to set out it was a different person facing
43:49
Lashly. Here was it? Who was I remember who it was? I
43:54
think it was? Well, I mean I have the bracket right in front
43:58
of it. That's who the Rock beat. I'm gonna go with Bobby Lashley.
44:02
Bobby Lashley. Yeah, okay, okay, see this, this one's
44:07
kind of a tough one. Yeah, you could. I could see it
44:10
going either way. I mean obviously right now, The Rock, no matter
44:15
which version of him, except for Rocky Myovia, has much more charisma than
44:19
Bobby Lashley. It's all like Bobby. I'm probably gonna have to go with
44:23
Bobby on this one, really, yeah, because I just want Bobby.
44:28
Bobby's a world champion at this point, The Rock. Yes, this is
44:32
ECW world champion, Bobby Lashley. This is Battle of the Billionaires. Bobby
44:37
Lashley. Yes he's still green. Yes he's still playing, but he's still
44:40
a destroyer the Rock. Whereas we're starting to see that, you know,
44:47
what's going to be his future come out, he still hasn't. I think
44:52
he's still got some of that some of that greenness to him. Like he
44:55
like he's going to get a little overconfident in the match and Bobby's going to
44:59
make him make him pay for it. I'm sorry, this is one that
45:01
I am going to have to sway one of you. I'm going to Rock.
45:07
And here's why. You have Nation of Domination Rock. Yes, okay,
45:10
this is during the time that the Rock is trying to take over the
45:14
Nation of Domination from Faruke. Yes. So you have people like Mark Henry
45:19
who are in there that are following the Rock. You have Dlo Brown who
45:22
is following the Rock. You have I mean, just with those two alone,
45:28
Okay, those two alone assisting the Rock to get over on Bobby Lashley.
45:32
Okay, it's gonna be the Rock. The Rock's gonna do it,
45:38
you know, the Rock. Okay, let's say the Rock distracts the ref
45:44
Okay, Mark Henry comes in, World's Strongest Slam to Bobby Lashley, you
45:49
know down the road. That's then going to set up a match between Bobby
45:52
Lashley and Mark Henry. So you're going to have, you know, that
45:57
story going on at that time, you're gonna have whenever he was kind of
46:01
peak world's strongest man. I just I don't see Bobby Lashley doing this.
46:08
So like maybe maybe at the start of the match to Rock, like ap
46:12
purchased Bobby and it's like, you know, we'll make this easy. Join
46:15
the Nation, you know, to kind of kind of go that angle.
46:19
Bobby, he's a face no, not doing it, and then okay,
46:22
then we got to do this the hard way, and then that's when the
46:24
Nation starts coming in and really kind of just picking Bobby apart throughout the match.
46:30
Is that? Is that? How? The problem I have with that
46:32
is, Okay, let's say you have that setup. The setup is Bobby
46:37
joined the Nation. They're all standing there and they put the fist up in
46:42
the air. Bobby Lashley stands there and then he does it. Okay,
46:45
but I think then that would be a ploy by Bobby to then attack the
46:51
Rock. Okay, so he's then getting the jump on the Rock. Because
46:57
he catches Rock at a vulnerable spot. So then if the ref is distracted
47:02
by let's say Delo Brown trying to get Delo out of the ring, Mark
47:08
Henry then attacks Bobby, maybe hits them with a foreign object. Maybe if
47:13
common Mustapa is still there, hits them with the gold chains that were melted
47:16
down from the Undertaker's urn. Okay, I just I don't see Bobby Lashley
47:24
winning this. So with all of that said, yeah, I'm going with
47:29
Rock as well now, but also looking at my what's coming up. It
47:35
provides a very interesting matchup coming up, and I like what's happening better with
47:38
this matchup than the previous one I had, You know, you sway my
47:43
my position as well. On that that I mean, I'm I am also
47:47
looking at what the next match would be for whoever this is, and I
47:52
think the Rock Chad Gable is more enticing than Babyface Babyface true true, true.
47:58
See I'm a maybe it's because I don't have it in front of me.
48:00
I'm not looking at it that way. I'm literally taking a match by
48:04
match. Yeah. Well no, I mean, I think that's the fun
48:07
way to do it. But I'm also trying to think about it from a
48:09
storyline perspective, and yeah, okay, all right, yeah, I'm going
48:15
with Rocks. The Rock is advancing to the same as Okay, okay,
48:19
so now we have the model Rick Martel, who just got done with an
48:23
easy victory over Savvio Vega, yes, against Rob van Dam, who just
48:30
got done with a victory on King Kong Bundy. Yeah, we're talking two
48:36
thousand and two, Rob van Dam. Yeah, like Alliance RVD taking on.
48:44
And I don't know what Morales was doing at this time, not Martel,
48:49
Martin Martel. Yeah, I was looking at Russell Pedro Moreles. I
48:52
don't know what Rick Martel was doing around this time. Okay, here's nineteen
48:54
eighty nine. But here's what you need to keep in mind. Okay,
49:00
Rick Martel handed a victory in the last match. Okay, he's still a
49:07
fresh guy. Rob van Dam just faced King Kong Bundy. However, heavy
49:15
King Kong Bundy is massively larger than Rob van Dam. M hmm. Okay,
49:23
So Jeff, which way are you going? Oh man, that's a
49:29
hard one. Yeah, all like, these quarterfinal matches are all kind of
49:34
kind of difficult to figure out who you want to go. M hmm.
49:40
I'll just interject I want to go r v D, but I'm like,
49:44
storyline wise, I kind of would lend to Martell being handed another easy victory.
49:50
Yeah, you got a point there, got a point there. M
49:57
I might go with that now that but you see, here's the thing.
50:00
Okay, before you say anything, okay, uh if Rick Martel wins,
50:06
Okay, what you were then setting up is a fresh heel going into the
50:14
semi finals. Yes, so you have that. So if you're looking for
50:21
heat in the story, you're getting heat yeah real quick. Yes, Oh
50:28
okay, all right, okay, all right, I know I know how
50:30
I'm going to do this. I'm gonna go Martell. Actually, okay,
50:36
I'm gonna go Martel. He's gonna get it, behnded another victory. Rvd's
50:38
not gonna go out without a fight. He's gonna get those babyface points.
50:43
He is gonna chip away at Martel a little bit. Okay, he's not.
50:46
He's not gonna get a full like walk away victory, but RVD already's
50:51
gonna make him work for it. Okay, So, but I am gonna
50:53
go Martel. Okay. Josh I had originally put down RVD based on previous
51:00
results before he got changed when we made discussions and whatnot. But I think
51:05
I'm gonna go Martel as well, give him a second easy victory. Okay,
51:09
I was actually gonna go r v D. Really, I was,
51:13
where are you gonna go? Rv D. So the way that I was
51:15
seeing a play out in my head, r v D he's doing the r
51:21
v D e c W injured, still fighting, coming down to the ring,
51:25
limping. Yeah, okay, uh, Rick Martel, super self centered,
51:34
egotistical heel taunting, uh kicking out r v d's leg Every time RVD
51:42
stands up, kicks the leg back out, he's posing, maybe doing a
51:46
little dance like a Renee du pre dance. Even Yeah, okay, who's
51:51
from from Canada? Not Francis. If you listen to these out of order,
51:57
that will that comment wonders, you'll understand. Go back and listen to
52:02
the April twenty eighth episode. So then he goes for the kick, goes
52:09
for the kick again, RVD jumps the leg, spinning back kick. Yep,
52:16
hit him rolling thunder five star frog splash. When that was me.
52:24
It's an upset victory. It shows that the heel was so self absorbed with
52:31
just with just making himself look amazing. Yes, that he was not focused
52:37
on the match. See, I was, honestly, I was originally thinking
52:43
that, yeah, and I was originally going to go with that. But
52:46
I sat there and thought real quick. I know that I was saying I
52:50
was taking this match by match, But I sat there and I realized what
52:52
the next match was, and I know exactly how I'm going to how that
52:55
one's going to go for me in my head, and I'm trying to set
52:59
up for the of my finals. I'm still sticking with Martel Martel. Josh,
53:04
listen, I will tell you this, Okay, if you stick with
53:06
Martel, I am perfectly fine with it. I mean, that's that's a
53:10
gray scenario which you laid out, Like I love Rick Martel, like I
53:15
am fine with him advancing. But that was just the initial thing that I
53:20
saw. Because you had the first round easy victory for Martel. He goes
53:24
in overly confident going against RVD, who just faced this bohemoth of a man.
53:32
M But I am perfectly fine putting Rick Martel over. It's it's a
53:39
solid case for both. Yes, you know, it just depends on which
53:47
direction you're wanting to take a story. Yes, you know what we have
53:52
here with the King of the Ring Tournament is a branching narrative that for every
53:57
action there's a reaction. And what I'm definitely not doing is stalling so Josh
54:04
can figure out what he wants. This is a lot more, in my
54:07
opinion, interesting than just this sound. Yeah, not that Josh I was
54:14
trying to get. Yeah, so Josh, no, no, no,
54:17
I'll just say it with you. So, Josh, what do you have?
54:22
You know what? RVD was my original answer, So you know what,
54:25
I'm gonna go with that with rv D. Going with RVD, okay,
54:30
So we're now going two to one r v D. Okay. I
54:36
like the idea of Mortel and getting an easy victory, but you know,
54:38
yeah RBDY works for me too. I mean, thinking about I kind of
54:43
wanted Martel, but I just I just in my head, I can see
54:47
RVD doing just getting that baby face, you know, sort of the Ricky
54:52
Morton, you know, just just getting the crowd behind him and then just
54:54
Martell just getting him at the end. Yeah, he just he was just
55:00
too much for him. But like I said, no, I mean it
55:01
makes perfect sense, but both great arguments, both great Next and final round
55:07
match. For the quarter finals, we have one Charles Montgomery Punk see Him
55:15
Punk versus Cheeky Baby the Iron Chic. Do we start with you last time?
55:22
Jeff, Let's go, Josh, Cold Baby, I'm sorry, Shaky
55:27
Baby, see Him Punk? Oh no, I'm going Shaky Baby, Chiky
55:31
Baby, Cheeky Baby gonna come out there, break his back and make him
55:37
humble. Okay, let me real quick, let me just say why.
55:42
Why? Well, I was actually about to ask both of you because I'm
55:45
on the fence. You're on the fence, so I need to be swayed.
55:47
So you want to go first, Josh. The final I have set
55:52
up in my head is why. But I don't want to give it away.
55:57
It's okay, that's okay, okay, Jeff, tell me why so
56:06
okay. One in the previous rounds, Punk has gotten to me two.
56:12
We've given him two fluke victories. This is what year is a Cempunk?
56:17
This is two thousand and eight Punk Again. This is not later in his
56:21
career, Punk. This is you know, he's he's a world champion.
56:23
That sound, but he's going to get nineteen eighty five Iron Chic not like
56:31
a few years after he's the transitional champion and everything. I can just I
56:37
don't see Punk getting another fluke victory over the Iron Chic. And also like
56:43
if we're doing this a whole runner up tournament thing, like who who did
56:46
Chic runner up to in his King of the Ring? Does same body?
56:50
No? Off the top of their head? What year was nineteen eighty five?
56:52
Don Morocco is non Morocco? Okay? The original rook Okay, I
57:00
I really want I just I don't see Punk beating cheeky baby. Just I
57:06
feel like she's just going to be too much for him. If it were
57:07
later in his career, I could, I could see it, But just
57:12
two thousand and eight, c M Punk not so much, Josh, do
57:19
you have anything to try to swing me towards one colossal monster punk Punk versus
57:30
rock? That's why? Okay, so I'm going Iron Sheep. Are you
57:38
seriously going Chic? Yeah? I'm going chy. I just I just cheat.
57:44
Listen. I love CM Punk. I think Smpunk's great, but with
57:49
this because also the way that I had played it out with the Iron Sheek
57:54
versus I R S was you know, Iron Sheek kind of does the blind
58:00
attack camel clutch, not exactly much of a match. See him Punk just
58:06
got done with Bam bam. Uh see him Punk beat Bam bam with kind
58:12
of the one two three kid finish from Razor ramon the Moon Salt. I
58:16
just I don't know. I just see Chic coming through on this. Yeah,
58:22
and nothing nothing against the m Punk. I do like I do like
58:25
Punk. I think Punk is amazing. I just he's gotten two fluke victories
58:30
so far in this tournament one no two two. Sorry, Yeah, I
58:36
just don't I see his luck running out when he gets to the Chic,
58:38
when he gets to the Iron Chic with his clubs doing doing his little club's
58:45
thing. We need a camera in here to see this, say this.
58:49
Do we want to see rb D versus Chic or arv D versus Punk.
58:55
That's what's next. It is but this is a worn down RVD, like
59:02
a barely holding on RVD. And I think, personally, okay, if
59:09
you have babyface Punk going against RVD, if Punk wins, it makes him
59:17
into a heel yes yep, which because he he did. He go hill
59:23
not too long after two thousand and eight, was that when did the Straight
59:27
Edge Society start? Was that twenty ten? I think something like that.
59:34
I mean I could see that, I could see it being, you know,
59:36
turning punk. He'll I just like I said, I just he's already
59:38
gotten too fluke victories in this tournament. I just don't see him going any
59:42
further. Yeah, that's me. I mean, I I feel like the
59:47
Iron Cheek you're still going with punk. I don't really got any good rebuttal
59:54
well, I'm sorry, Josh, it is it is going to be the
59:58
Iron Cheek, all right. So we're in our semifinals now we are.
1:00:04
Indeed, the semi finals are now Chad Gable versus The Rock nineteen ninety eight
1:00:08
and RVD versus The Iron Cheek. Yes, semi final. Wow. So
1:00:17
first match Chad Gable versus The Rock. Now, Chad Gable started off going
1:00:25
against John Morrison and picking up that victory after Morrison had beaten Jake Roberts.
1:00:31
Then Chad Gable one and bested Pedro Morales. Yes. The Rock however,
1:00:40
started off against Neville and then went against Bobby Lashley. So truly both of
1:00:50
them have had like a sort of not an easy victory, but a sort
1:00:54
of easier victory and then yeah, I would make them if you were playing
1:01:00
the game, if you're playing WWE two K right now, I would put
1:01:02
them both at equal stamina and equal health yep, and not in the green
1:01:09
Okay, So that's where I would put them mentally right now. And we're
1:01:13
talking nineteen ninety eight Rock against twenty nineteen Chad Gable. Yeah before Shorty g
1:01:19
Yes, God, that was a terrible gimmick. Awful, it was absolutely
1:01:22
awful. I could see, Okay in this match. I sort of see
1:01:32
Chad Gable being Ken Shamrock a little bit. Okay, Like he's going to
1:01:37
come in, He's going to do the submissions, he's he's going to give
1:01:40
Rock a lot of he's gonna give me a headache. He's gonna give him
1:01:45
River his money. But I see Rock doing it, okay. Yeah,
1:01:49
I see Rock again Nation domination coming through. Yeah. I didn't even I
1:01:52
didn't never took that in because there is consideration. Until he brought it up.
1:01:55
I can see the nineteen ninety eight Rock like I am, like he's
1:01:59
he is. He is pretty much hell bent on being the king of the
1:02:01
ring. He's no matter what, And Chad Gable I mean, who's he
1:02:05
got Jason Jordan. I don't even think he's got Jason Jordan, So it's
1:02:09
just him. I mean it's one of those things where it's like Chad Gable
1:02:13
is always the bridesmaid and never get the bride. Yeah. Yeah, so
1:02:16
Josh Gable stories ending here. Yeah, so Shorty g is about to begin.
1:02:23
Is this what sends this Chad Gable? Are we really sending Chad Gable,
1:02:30
one of the best in the business, down the route of Shorty g
1:02:35
We have to crown that next travel chief, Shorty G. I see,
1:02:42
I was very confused. As soon as as soon as Chad Gables walk into
1:02:45
the back, they got this, They got the suit ready for him,
1:02:49
Like all right, all right, pal, got your next gimmick, Shorty
1:02:55
g. Think about it. I don't really want to think about it.
1:03:00
Think about it. You're short and your last name's Gable, Shorty j shaving
1:03:15
because he can't let the beard win, and not understanding what a burrito is.
1:03:20
That one still turns me for a loop. I want to meat wrap
1:03:23
like a like a steak burrito? What's a burrito? Who knows what a
1:03:28
burrito is? Vince? Not that you're ever going to listen to this,
1:03:31
But man, I grew up in a trailer park, like you, I
1:03:35
knew what a burrito was. Yeah, I mean, come on, did
1:03:40
not know? Okay, so all three of us are going to rock then,
1:03:45
yeah, okay, so that smells funky. So next we have RVD,
1:03:52
Rob Van Dam Versus, the King of the Camel Clutch, the iron
1:04:00
chic who probably legitimately killed someone back in the day. I mean that's one
1:04:09
of the reasons why he came from Iran. Oh yeah, I mean there
1:04:14
was like a because he he was like the bodyguard for the basically their president
1:04:16
or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, okay, you know what I completely forgot
1:04:20
about. Yeah, it's like mirrcro co cop cro cop in mm A.
1:04:25
Uh you know he was special Forces he was. Yeah, he was a
1:04:30
Croatian cop, right yeah because yeah, well I mean he also had that
1:04:34
like ungodly powerful right head kick. Yeah, because like the left leg was
1:04:40
the names were like left leg Hospital, right leg morgue. Yes. Yeah.
1:04:45
Anyways, yeah, so Rob Van Dame versus c him Punk RVD,
1:04:51
who started off against King Kong Bundy winning that victory. Uh, then picked
1:04:57
up a shock victory over Rick Martel, which has now led him into the
1:05:01
semi finals as one tired Robbery victorious Daniels rv D Rob Van Damdels against the
1:05:15
Iron Chek, who started off with his quick win over Irwin R Sister I
1:05:19
r S and then followed that up with a victory over one CM Punk,
1:05:25
which has now led him into these semi finals against Rob Van Damn. Josh,
1:05:31
I think, baby, baby, why I mean? And you can
1:05:38
just say, because if that's honestly your reasonly you you don't have to have
1:05:43
this big elaborate story. You could just say because that's why I like.
1:05:47
Okay, I originally had to see him Punk here, and I had Punk
1:05:51
going over. Okay, so now she replaces Punk in this scenario, and
1:05:56
I'm just gonna go with she is that. I think Rock versus She would
1:05:59
be pretty inner matchup. Okay, Okay, So it's it's Chic versus rv
1:06:03
D. Right, Yes, the no iron cheek, the iron cheap yeah,
1:06:08
yeah, yeah, the o G Sheek's nothing yeah no, and not
1:06:11
and not Kenny Omega's uncle the Golden cheek either and this is the iron cheek.
1:06:16
So the Iron Cheek taken on rv D. Keep in mind that The
1:06:21
winner of this goes on to face nineteen ninety eight Nation of Domination Rock Chic
1:06:30
Chic Chic. The reason why I'm going chic rv D. I think he's
1:06:34
just too gased at this point. Yeah, he is chic quick victory over
1:06:39
I. R S took out who is it? They took took out a
1:06:45
A C. M. Bunk who had who had another who had you know,
1:06:47
two fluke victories and just wasn't gonna go any further in this tournament rv
1:06:51
D. I didn't have him advancing to the semi finals as it is.
1:06:56
Yeah, I don't see him advancing to the finals. I don't see him
1:06:59
getting past schiky baby, especially with him being in the match with Rick Martel
1:07:02
already being kind of gas coming in there. Yeah, breaks his back makes
1:07:08
them humble how quickly? Like? Is this a squash match? Or does
1:07:14
r VD have a fighting chance because he still has two working arms, and
1:07:17
any man with two hands has a fighting chance. Uh. I think he'll
1:07:23
put up a decent fight, but he'll be a pretty short match. Yeah,
1:07:26
it's they're gonna they're gonna go about eight or nine minutes. They're not
1:07:30
gonna go. No, they're not going over that. Rvd's gonna give him
1:07:34
some like he's gonna put up a fight. He's not gonna go down without
1:07:36
a fight. This ain't gonna be a squash match with him. So do
1:07:39
you think maybe rolling thunder Chiki gets the knees up. R v D back
1:07:45
lanes on the knees, he's on the mat. Cheeky goes over camel clutch.
1:07:49
Yeah that, or or RVD goes for frog splash. She moves and
1:07:56
then he camel clutch breaks his back, makes him humble. I should have
1:08:00
wore my sheet shirt. Okay, So we're going iron chic and we have
1:08:05
a final. I'll be honest, this is not the final that I thought
1:08:11
it was going to be. Okay, Okay, before we go into what
1:08:14
Okay, first, Josh, who you said yours was? Like, did
1:08:18
you want Originally I had Bobby lash was seeing punk. Then when we made
1:08:23
changes, it became rock seeing punk. Now it's rocks and cheek So but
1:08:28
so your original one was seeing punk and Bobby lash one. Yeah, like
1:08:30
that was your original final that you wanted from what I saw? Yes,
1:08:35
okay, I didn't have one. You didn't have one. I honestly,
1:08:41
I did not go into this thinking about like think about how the book this.
1:08:45
I just kind of, like I said, I went match by match
1:08:48
up until these excuse me, up until these last few matches. Yeah,
1:08:53
that's when the vision started to come and I really wanted Rock versus the Iron
1:08:58
Cheek. I don't know what I wanted, Like the the randomly generated stuff
1:09:05
here is not the matches that I would have wanted to start off with,
1:09:14
just because I think there's with some of these too much of current generation,
1:09:19
like Chad Gable, John Morrison, Iron Chic Irs. You know, I'd
1:09:27
want to switch things up a little bit like Saviovega, Rick Martel Mankind and
1:09:30
Savio Vega, you know, switch a few around. But I'm not sure.
1:09:36
I think an interesting one could have been Razor Ramone xpoc in the final,
1:09:42
just going back to the Razor Ramone versus the Kid on the third episode
1:09:48
of Monday Night Row. I think that's when it happened, and I think,
1:09:54
yeah, it might not been the third, but it was Sean Waltman
1:09:59
as the Kid his third match because he had previously lost to mister Hughes and
1:10:05
I don't remember the second one. But nonetheless, what we have now is
1:10:13
the Rock versus the Iron Chic the final round. We have Nation of Domination
1:10:20
Rock. We have heel versus heel. Yes. So also we have the
1:10:28
originator of the word Jabbroni. It's a true person who made jibbroni the word
1:10:33
famous. That's true. It's kind of how the angle I was going with
1:10:36
this. So who is the bigger Jabbroni? Who's going to lose? Yeah?
1:10:44
I mean I because you have you have again, you have Nation of
1:10:47
Domination Rock. Okay, but you have the Iron Chic and not just any
1:10:56
iron cheek. Yeah, nineteen eighty five, nineteen eighty five chic a few
1:11:00
like I said, a few years removed as the world champion iron cheek.
1:11:06
So you have you have a guy who's already tasted that breath ring. He's
1:11:11
already grabbed a hold of that brath ring. Baby, he's already pulled it
1:11:15
down and he's pulling himself back up. And then you have someone with the
1:11:18
Rock who hasn't made it to that breath ring yet. Baby, he's climbing
1:11:21
the ladder trying to get to that breath ring. His hands are so close.
1:11:27
Is this going to be that change that he gets with Maybe he just
1:11:29
takes another step up that ladder. Is he gonna Is he going to trip
1:11:32
and maybe fall down the wrong baby? What's gonna happen? Josh, let's
1:11:36
go to you. Baby. Oh I could cut up. I know you
1:11:45
can't. I do think this shall be the ascension of the original tribal well
1:11:50
not the original, but the tribal chief, the Rock, the high Chief,
1:11:54
my via. Okay, so you think Rock's going over w Yeah,
1:12:01
Okay, He's gonna lead that nation. He's going to lead the nation,
1:12:04
so it will be his nation of domination. In the runner up to the
1:12:11
King of the Ring tournament where he finally becomes the king, Baby, he
1:12:15
gets a little bit of that breath ring baby gets the taste for the champagne.
1:12:19
Baby was so sweet. Yeah, now, Jeff, Jeff, look
1:12:26
at me, Look at me, Jeff, Yes, yes, okay,
1:12:30
So Josh's gone the Rock. He's going with the Rock. He's going with
1:12:32
the Rock to win the whole thing. You did it for the Rock.
1:12:36
He did it for the Rock. Okay, did for the people. So
1:12:42
look at me, Jeff, look at me. I to eye man to
1:12:45
you. You've got the Rock versus the iron chic who do you got so
1:12:55
it doesn't matter what you think. Teet it up right there, Rocks coming
1:13:02
out the cocky is all all could be. Yeah, he's got the nation,
1:13:08
he got the nation with him. He you know chic, he's coming
1:13:12
out. He's got well himself. Yeah, he's got himself. But we
1:13:17
ain't just talking about any ordinary man. No, we're talking about the Iron
1:13:21
Cheic, not the Golden Chic, not the oj she. He might have
1:13:26
killed a man, the Iron Cheek, the maneen eighty five Iron Chic.
1:13:32
Yes, nineteen eighty five Iron Chic. I could see the match going,
1:13:40
you know. Now, keep in mind nineteen eighty five Iron Chic had classy
1:13:45
Freddy Blasty with him. Oh okay, he's coming out with classy glassy Yeah.
1:13:49
I mean if the Rock's got the nation, then Chiky's got the blassy
1:13:54
Yes and is he was so classy? Yes, I could see. Don't
1:14:00
forget this is the man who came up with your pencil neck geek. That's
1:14:04
Freddy blasting, not Iron Cheek. That would have been was great. I
1:14:12
could see this match, you know, going back and forth with one another.
1:14:15
I could see the nation getting involved. I could see, you know,
1:14:20
Shiky baby, is getting worn down by Freddy Blast. He's trying to
1:14:25
do what he can. It's all behind the referees back until the referee sees
1:14:31
it, and the referee throws everybody else. You see, I was going
1:14:34
to say, the same thing sends everybody. Now, it's just down between
1:14:39
the rock and the iron cheek. It's yes, the rock and the iron
1:14:43
sheet the rock. He is young, he is cocky. He is wanting
1:14:46
this. He wants that ring. Dang it, yes, he wants it.
1:14:54
He goes in for the rock bottom. He don't get it. No,
1:15:00
what happens? He does not get it? Does he? She just
1:15:03
with the arm there. He tries to go up. She is not letting
1:15:09
him. He's wrapping that leg around, wrapping leg, wrapping the leg around
1:15:12
him. Leg gives him an elbow. No, no, no, the
1:15:18
bottom. They're standing up side by side, man by man, arms in
1:15:24
un locked. He keeps trying to lift him up, and she could just
1:15:28
keeps locking the legs, locking it. He ain't letting him go. Rocky,
1:15:34
he was not prepared for this. Sheik's experience is kicking in. He
1:15:39
gets he's been using the weights. He's been using the weights. He gives
1:15:43
one big old elbow to the back of rocks head just starts whipping them at
1:15:46
that point, just welling at him, goes down, goes down, gives
1:15:53
him the body slam makes it, breaks his back, It makes him humble.
1:15:59
Camic lunch, camel colk for the iron ch Rocky passes out. He
1:16:03
doesn't tap out, He doesn't tap out, but he passes out. Why
1:16:06
doesn't he tap out because he can't. He does not want He does not
1:16:11
want to give up. He's not going to give up, Rocky. Rocky
1:16:14
as long as he's conscious, he ain't given up. But then you're putting
1:16:17
him in baby faced territory. True true, true true at that point,
1:16:21
at that point, I'm still going shiky okay, and then then you know
1:16:28
what, take that back Rock the beginning of the corporate takeover because Rock because
1:16:33
because throughout this match, Sheik's been trying to get this camel clutch in and
1:16:36
Rock knows if he gets the camera clutch in, it's it's not going to
1:16:40
be pretty, you know. And he gets the camel clutch in, but
1:16:43
somehow flips it over into a pin clips Rock flops. He's still applying it.
1:16:47
While he's still applying it that's a good one. I could still see
1:16:55
he's yeah. Okay, now that we're going with looking at it from a
1:16:58
hills perspective, Rock for ex Rock can't get out of it. He's doing
1:17:01
everything he can. She just just just cinches it in more crowds going crazy,
1:17:08
just make some humble makes some tap, they make some tap. Is
1:17:13
your King of the Ring runner up, tournament winner? I mean I could
1:17:15
see it. I can see I can see it either way. But that's
1:17:17
that's how I'm picturing it in my head. Okay. So we have Josh
1:17:21
Cole with the rock. Yeah, we have Hollywood Jeff Petty, Yes,
1:17:30
with the iron cheek. Yes. So this falls on me. You're you're
1:17:36
the tiebreaker. Yeah. That cheat shirt I should have or the sheep shirt
1:17:43
Josh? Yeah? Can you give me something on the rock because I'll tell
1:17:47
you this. Jeff painted a pretty picture. He did picture sublime. That's
1:17:58
a reference of the Barbie moving. Yeah. I haven't seen that. It's
1:18:01
it's pretty good. Yeah, Okay, I mean I'm not opposed to watching.
1:18:05
I'm just I'm just saying that that there's a part in the movie where
1:18:09
Ryan Gosling says sublime and it's it's just perfect and apparently it was improvised.
1:18:14
Okay, yep, so it's even better sublime. My issue on this is
1:18:17
that I'm not as familiar with this version of the rock and I'm just not
1:18:23
really familiar at all with Chic, So I yeah, I don't have a
1:18:27
great rebuttal on it. Ah, okay, so peak behind the curtain?
1:18:35
Yeah, okay, I have no problem with you. I don't. I
1:18:43
don't mind you. The problem is is that if I agree with Jeff on
1:18:48
this, then it really seems like that I have a problem because the last
1:18:54
one with Iron Chic and RVD, no with uh yeah, Iron she Can
1:18:59
RVD were you were like O r VD and I'm like, no, Iron
1:19:01
Chic. You know, it's not because that I dislike you, because I
1:19:05
don't. I think you're okay. Also real quick time out, Yeah,
1:19:13
is is Sheic like? And I'm still gonna stick with my pick just because
1:19:16
I want to see the chic win. Is she babyface at this time?
1:19:20
No, he's here, that's right. You said to begin heel versus here.
1:19:24
But we but with my scenario, we turned chic face. Why why
1:19:30
do you turn the sheep face? The k who has like always been anti
1:19:36
America. The only time the Shek was ever babyface was when he was on
1:19:43
Howard Stern. You gotta gotta point there. You got a point there,
1:19:55
Josh. Do you have anything? I don't have anything America America. You
1:20:04
vote chic, you hate America? Gee? Thanks? I mean you see,
1:20:12
that was just gonna sound bad for me casting my vote here. Know,
1:20:17
but but that was before he said it, like I quickly want to
1:20:23
be like the Iron Chic, but I don't want people to be like,
1:20:25
oh, he hates America. It's like I was born here. Just let
1:20:30
him clutch from my pillows. Yeah, you know, I really think that
1:20:33
between the two, the the image of both parties getting thrown out, yes,
1:20:42
the Nation and Freda Blathe getting thrown out the rock going for the rock
1:20:48
bottom, only to be countered into the camel clutch. It's just it's it's
1:20:57
too sweet to give up because you have the rock with the Nation, and
1:21:01
this is only going to drive him down that hill mode even more. And
1:21:05
he has used a nation for almost all of his victories. Yeah, so
1:21:14
something's got to give it at some point. Yeah, Freddy Blassi has not
1:21:17
gotten involved once until now. Well, I think we've came to a conclusion
1:21:27
that the winner of the first ever grill Out King of the Ring runner Up
1:21:33
tournament is the Iron Chic from nineteen eighty five. Yes, so Shiki Baby
1:21:44
has finally done it. Sublime, sublime, So Chiky. Wherever you're listening,
1:21:51
wherever you are in the Great Wrestling Ring in the Sky, I mean
1:21:57
where wherever you are listen. I'm not judging. I'm just saying, wherever
1:22:03
you are. Whatever you believe, if you believe, I don't care.
1:22:08
What I care about is that twenty twenty four, the grill Out has crowned
1:22:15
the first ever grill Out. Predictions, it's not a prediction. The grill
1:22:19
Out King of the Ring runner Round Tournament to the nineteen eighty five version of
1:22:26
the Iron Cheek. Yes, come back in ten years and we'll do another
1:22:30
one with the next ten keypers. Yeah, I'll be honest with Yeah.
1:22:35
Between us three, I really hope I'm not here with you. Thanks,
1:22:43
You're welcome, many thanks, And if you all enjoyed this, let us
1:22:46
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1:22:53
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1:22:58
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1:23:00
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1:23:03
We will probably post it on Facebook. So yeah, that's going to
1:23:08
be the end of our first Grill Out special. Yes, what Jason said,
1:23:12
send us some ideas. I mean we've been trying to We've been brainstorming
1:23:15
a little bit. This was. Honestly, this was very fun to do.
1:23:19
Was it more fun than you all thought it was going to be?
1:23:21
Yes? Yes, yeah, because I mean you both seemed slightly hesitant.
1:23:28
Yeah, yeah, well, and I want I will say this, I
1:23:31
loved the idea when you first pitched it. It was just finding the time
1:23:35
to do it, and I wanted, like I wanted it to be.
1:23:40
I didn't want to be a throwway episode because at one point this was there's
1:23:42
gonna be a throway upsode in a way, it's gonna be a filler It
1:23:45
was very adamant that it wasn't. Yes, so I'm glad you were,
1:23:50
but it was going to be kind of filler episode. But with the King
1:23:54
of the Ring stuff coming up, I just felt like more weekend and everything.
1:23:58
Yeah, we're just timing is going to work out great for this.
1:24:00
So you know what, maybe if listeners have a wrestler, an individual wrestler,
1:24:05
yes, current or from history, that they would like more information on
1:24:10
tell us and maybe we'll do a wrestling life of so and so episode.
1:24:16
You know, I've honestly, I've really wanted to do stuff like that.
1:24:19
Yeah, like especially with like that, with the interviews that that some of
1:24:25
y'all have been listening to, like with Chris Statlander and Adam Harrison, and
1:24:29
we try to we focus on what they have coming up, but we're also
1:24:34
trying to give you a background on some of these people. I'm give you
1:24:36
a good profile on them, whether you know, even with Statlander, we
1:24:40
got are sitting there talking NASCAR, which still kind of blows my mind a
1:24:43
little bit. But I just, yeah, like the best like life of
1:24:46
I would love to do that. I mean it kind of as both if
1:24:49
you know, I kind of already have a couple of scripts ready to go
1:24:51
or something like that. For example, people who love the Undertaker, Yes,
1:24:56
Okay, his first match was against Bruce Brody, So if it was
1:25:01
not for Bruiser Brody, you probably wouldn't have the Undertaker. So maybe we
1:25:09
do a life of Bruiser Brody. Yeah. Another thing is doing it like
1:25:15
the history of professional wrestling. I really truly want to do something on the
1:25:18
gold Dust Trio talk about because they were kind of the ones that ushered in
1:25:24
this era of k fabe of we're going to do this as a work.
1:25:27
We're not gonna this is not going to be a legitimate or whatever. This
1:25:30
isn't going to be a shoot. This is all going to be a work.
1:25:31
Another thing, a history wise, I've wanted to do, and just
1:25:34
because it's just very interesting how Japanese wrestling has went, is the history of
1:25:40
it going all the way back to Ricky Dozon with a jack. I think
1:25:43
the promotion was Japan Pro Wrestling, and that that promotion branched off into All
1:25:49
Japan and New Japan, and then then All Japan of course had to split,
1:25:55
and then that's how you get pro wrestling. Noah, well, it
1:25:57
even goes back before that, I believe with Gotch Yeah, Carl got yeah,
1:26:03
yeah, Carl Gotch was was instrumental. I mean, he's he's highly
1:26:08
regarded in what is known as put. I can't pronounce it correctly. I
1:26:12
have to slow myself down when I'm saying, but you know, if you
1:26:15
all be interested in hearing about that, let us know, let us know
1:26:17
what you're not interested in hearing about, and we still might do it anyways
1:26:21
because I don't care exactly exactly, so uh yeah, it's whatever this is.
1:26:28
But this is Yes, this is our first special. We're looking to
1:26:30
do eventually, do more specials for the girl out And again, if you
1:26:34
have any that's what Jason, if you have anything, maybe some fantasy booking.
1:26:39
Again, this was This was very fun. This was a very fun
1:26:43
thing, and I appreciate you pitching this to us. Well I appreciate me
1:26:46
too. So with that being said, until next time, fellow wrestling fans,
1:26:53
have a good one. Good Bye, Ah and Joy the Night's friend.