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Moscow Murders: Four University Of Idaho Students Are Murdered · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. I've
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  Speaker 1: been following this story up in Idaho of the four
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  Speaker 1: university students who were killed and now they're saying that
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  Speaker 1: it might have been a crime of passion or a
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  Speaker 1: burglary gone wrong. there's really not too much information as
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  Speaker 1: to what led to these deaths yet. However, the police
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  Speaker 1: are investigating it as a homicide, and obviously something went down.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into this article from the Daily Mail,
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  Speaker 1: and let's see where things are at. Headline. Four University
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  Speaker 1: of Idaho students might have been killed in crime of
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  Speaker 1: passion or burglary gone wrong between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Vanessa Cerna. The four University
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  Speaker 1: of Idaho students found dead in the off-campus home they
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  Speaker 1: shared might have been killed in a crime of passion
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  Speaker 1: or a burglary gone wrong. So that can leave a
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  Speaker 1: lot of To the imagination, right? Was it a crime
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  Speaker 1: of passion or a burglary gone wrong? And if it
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  Speaker 1: was a crime of passion, who was responsible for it?
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  Speaker 1: One of these people have an ex-boyfriend or girlfriend who's
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  Speaker 1: a loon? Ethan Chapin, 20. Madison Mogan, 21. Zana Kernodle, 20.
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  Speaker 1: And Kaylee Goncalves, 21, were all found dead in the
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  Speaker 1: house they shared in Moscow, Idaho on Sunday. Now, I've
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  Speaker 1: been to Moscow, Idaho once. A fairly peaceful place where
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  Speaker 1: you don't expect stuff like this to happen. Four people murdered?
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole lot for a little place like Moscow,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you. Police have not disclosed to the
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  Speaker 1: public how they died. The authorities were first alerted to
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  Speaker 1: the scene by someone else who called 911 at around
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  Speaker 1: noon to report an unconscious person at the address. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's weird. How would they know that there's an unconscious
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  Speaker 1: person at the address? The person who called. Unless maybe
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  Speaker 1: they were involved. Did they go over, knock on the
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  Speaker 1: door as a neighbor, and see somebody laying on the floor?
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  Speaker 1: Art Betge, mayor of Moscow, called the deaths a crime
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  Speaker 1: of passion and senseless acts of violence, but also said
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  Speaker 1: they may have been killed in a burglary gone wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really... know how much I buy the burglary
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  Speaker 1: gone wrong theory here. Now, of course it's possible. One
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  Speaker 1: thing we always have to take into account is that
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  Speaker 1: if people are high on drugs or lit up on
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  Speaker 1: these new ass designer drugs that are out there, they're
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  Speaker 1: not even human beings basically. So this isn't out of
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  Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. They break in, they're high on drugs,
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  Speaker 1: they're looking to steal something, they find people who are there,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they wake up and shit goes south. I guess
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  Speaker 1: that could be a possibility, or a crime of passion
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about, an ex-boyfriend, a stalker, whatever. That's
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  Speaker 1: certainly in the cards as well. It's one of any
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  Speaker 1: plenitude of possibilities, including burglary gone wrong, robbery gone wrong,
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  Speaker 1: any of those is a possibility, and not one to
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  Speaker 1: the exclusion of others, he told Fox News. That's a
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  Speaker 1: bit confusing, and that's what we expect in investigations like this,
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  Speaker 1: especially right in the beginning. You never get all of
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  Speaker 1: the information from the investigators, especially before they have somebody
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  Speaker 1: in custody. A chilling last photo by Goncalves, hours before
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  Speaker 1: the bodies were discovered, showed the four standing on a
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  Speaker 1: house porch, smiling with their arms wrapped around each other.
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  Speaker 1: Goncalves' family issued a statement on social media and said
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  Speaker 1: the 21-year-old was only a few months shy of moving
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  Speaker 1: across country for a new job. So they were all
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  Speaker 1: getting ready to start their lives at the ages they
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  Speaker 1: were at. They were getting ready to be done with
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  Speaker 1: college and begin the next phase of their lives. How
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  Speaker 1: many of you out there remember when you were there?
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  Speaker 1: I do. I remember skateboarding from work every day down
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  Speaker 1: to UNLV, go to class, skateboard back to work, and
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  Speaker 1: stay at work till 2, 3 in the morning. That
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  Speaker 1: was what my life was as I was preparing to
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  Speaker 1: get out of college and dive into my career. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing these folks were pretty busy too and pretty
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  Speaker 1: excited about the next step in their lives. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen now because some sick, degenerate psychopath
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  Speaker 1: changed all of that. She was looking forward to her
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  Speaker 1: new job in tech starting on 1-1, a move to Texas,
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  Speaker 1: road trips, and her just-purchased Range Rover, and a trip
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  Speaker 1: she planned out to Europe, the family wrote. She never
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  Speaker 1: stopped fighting for us and demanding the truth and justice,
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  Speaker 1: and neither will we. That's just, I mean, and for
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  Speaker 1: what really is what it comes down to. I guess
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see what the reasoning is here,
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  Speaker 1: what the purpose of this homicide was, if you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it that. But to me, it's just so senseless.
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  Speaker 1: There is so much of this we see on a
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  Speaker 1: regular basis, so many people who are being murdered and
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  Speaker 1: killed over some dumb shit. You know, somebody said to
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  Speaker 1: me one time something that really stuck with me, and
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  Speaker 1: that somebody was my dad. And we were talking and
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about, you know, the world and
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  Speaker 1: the universe as a whole. And my dad said to me,
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know what? What if we did find
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  Speaker 1: out that we were the only lives in the universe,
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  Speaker 1: the only, you know, sentient beings in the whole entire universe?
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that make every single life that much more precious?
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  Speaker 1: And that really stuck with me because it's the truth, right?
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  Speaker 1: If we're all there is in the whole universe, right? Boy,
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  Speaker 1: that's not that many people, even if it's 8 billion,
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  Speaker 1: considering how many stars there are. So my point is,
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  Speaker 1: the cavalier way that people are willing to take others' lives,
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't sit well with me. And the complete
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  Speaker 1: violent society that we find ourselves in is just abhorrent.
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  Speaker 1: And you have people out here who refuse to accept
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  Speaker 1: the facts. People out here that'll talk about things and
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  Speaker 1: they'll whitewash it because they don't want it to be, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my political party might be hurt by this. We got
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of that shit because guess what? Politics
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  Speaker 1: don't matter. You know what matters? The truth. Mogan and
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  Speaker 1: Goncalves were members of Alpha Phi sorority on campus. Kernodle
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  Speaker 1: and Chapin appeared to have been dating, according to her Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: that featured the photos of the couple cuddled up. So
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  Speaker 1: they were dating. There could have been something as far
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  Speaker 1: as a lover or somebody else who was mad about this. Again,
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  Speaker 1: spitballing here, going on what the authorities have said. Could
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  Speaker 1: have been, you know, a burglary gone wrong or some
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  Speaker 1: sort of, something a crime of passion. So, who knows
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  Speaker 1: what it was, but what we do know, the one
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  Speaker 1: thing that we do know, the facts are, these people
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  Speaker 1: are dead. Police in Idaho said they responded to a
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  Speaker 1: call of an unconscious person at the home just before
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  Speaker 1: noon on Sunday. When they arrived at the scene, they
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  Speaker 1: found all four people dead in a house that was
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  Speaker 1: converted into an apartment. Police Captain Tyson Barrett told the
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  Speaker 1: Idaho statesman, He later announced that all four students were
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  Speaker 1: students at the university, which the school also disclosed in
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  Speaker 1: a news release. It remains unclear how the victims died,
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  Speaker 1: but local police are considering it a homicide. So, again,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have to see what they have as far as evidence.
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  Speaker 1: I guess nothing has really been presented here as far
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  Speaker 1: as the method of death. And that would tell us
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  Speaker 1: a lot as far as, you know, was it... a
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  Speaker 1: gun or a blunt object, and all of that will
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  Speaker 1: come out. But that definitely helps with figuring out what
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  Speaker 1: went down here, right? From an investigator's point of view.
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  Speaker 1: They have to figure out how these people ended up
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  Speaker 1: in the situation they ended up in. How did they
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  Speaker 1: become deceased? It remains unclear how the victims died, but
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  Speaker 1: local police are considering it a homicide. Police have not
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  Speaker 1: taken any suspects into custody as of Monday, but they
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  Speaker 1: say they do not believe that there is a threat
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  Speaker 1: to the rest of the school community. Well, okay, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: but if there's a murderer on the run, that would
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  Speaker 1: signal to me that there is a bit of a threat, no?
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  Speaker 1: Authorities are now asking anyone with information about the apparent
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  Speaker 1: murders to call 208-882-2677. The group appeared to be hanging
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  Speaker 1: out together hours before their death Mogan of Coar D'Island, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: and Goncalves of Rathdrum, Idaho, posed together in one last
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  Speaker 1: picture alongside their other sorority sisters and Chapin of Conway, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: who was a Sigma Chi. Kernodle of Avondale, Arizona, was
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  Speaker 1: also in the picture and didn't appear to be in
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  Speaker 1: a sorority. The school originally posted an alert on social
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  Speaker 1: media at 3.07 p.m. Sunday saying police were investigating a
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  Speaker 1: homicide nearby. The Post said the suspect was not known
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and school officials advised students to stay
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  Speaker 1: away from the area and shelter in place. By 3.46 p.m.,
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  Speaker 1: the school put out a second alert that said police
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  Speaker 1: did not believe there was an active threat, and shelter-in-place
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  Speaker 1: advisory was lifted. Still, school officials warn students to remain vigilant.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot there, right? What are they even
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  Speaker 1: trying to say here? There's no threat, but this could
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  Speaker 1: be a homicide. It's a crime of passion. Leads me
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  Speaker 1: to believe, and again, speculation, that they have something to
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  Speaker 1: go on here and they're possibly looking at someone. In
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  Speaker 1: an ensuing email, university officials told students that all Monday
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  Speaker 1: classes would be canceled out of respect for those fellow vandals,
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  Speaker 1: referring to the school's mascot. The university said counselors would
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  Speaker 1: be available for students at the campus counseling center while
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  Speaker 1: employees could access assistance through an employee assistance program. Green
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  Speaker 1: urged people to reach out if they were concerned about
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  Speaker 1: classmates or coworkers. An event of this magnitude can understandably
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  Speaker 1: have significant impacts on those left behind, he wrote. As vandals,
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  Speaker 1: we must come together and lift each other up. Man,
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  Speaker 1: this must be real bad for all. Imagine their friend group,
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  Speaker 1: their sorority. What they must feel right now, they're just
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. And then all of a sudden these people
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  Speaker 1: are murdered and killed and dead, gone forever. Following the
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  Speaker 1: news of their deaths, students flocked to Chapman's Instagram page,
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  Speaker 1: expressing their grief. Too young, too soon. Fly high, baby.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be there soon, Jacob Perez wrote on the most
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  Speaker 1: recent post documenting events from his freshman year. Forever grateful
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  Speaker 1: to have you in my life, another wrote. Goncalves' family
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  Speaker 1: further described her as being a defender and a protector.
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  Speaker 1: One of the most painful experiences has to be to
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  Speaker 1: sum up an entire person in a paragraph, the family wrote.
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  Speaker 1: Our sister can't be packaged up in a box with
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  Speaker 1: a neat bow and shame on anyone who would expect that. Look,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. We're talking about real people here. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times we forget because, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not our family or not us. But this isn't just
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  Speaker 1: people whose names are in a story or on a page.
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  Speaker 1: They're real lives that are affected. And the aftermath of this,
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  Speaker 1: all of the people who are affected, friends and family,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be real bad for all of them
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  Speaker 1: to come to terms. Kaylee was and is and always
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  Speaker 1: will be our defender and protector. She is tough and fair.
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  Speaker 1: The ultimate middle child. She did absolutely everything she set
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  Speaker 1: her mind to. She didn't hold back on love, fights,
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  Speaker 1: or life. Kaylee was the ultimate go-getter and constantly wanted
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  Speaker 1: an adventure. Their deaths came the same day an ex-football
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  Speaker 1: player killed three members of the University of Virginia's football
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  Speaker 1: team in a shooting, leading to a police chase and
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  Speaker 1: campus lockdown. So that's another story that I'll probably get
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  Speaker 1: to at some point. But here, this is just all bad.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, we don't have any information really yet besides
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  Speaker 1: the fact that this happened. So when we get more information,
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  Speaker 1: we'll update it and we'll talk a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on and where things currently stand. If
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