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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Monday Aprilates, I'm your host, tom or
- 0:03the Akron game in one hundred and forty five days the game against Michigan in
- 0:07two hundred and thirty six days. Monday is a rather remarkable day in the
- 0:11state of Ohio. For the first time since eighteen o six, three years
- 0:17after the founding of the state and Tony Gerdaman sophomore year at Ohio State,
- 0:21for the first time since eighteen oh six, the state of Ohio is going
- 0:25to be seeing a total solar eclipse on Monday. Pretty big deal. People
- 0:30are going all over the place and going a little nuts. That's okay.
- 0:33We're going to try and keep it a little more topical here, but still
- 0:37kind of on topic with the eclipse. We are you talking about Ohio State
- 0:40players who have a chance to eclipse, get it? Get it? The
- 0:46marks records, et cetera that have been set as sort of the standard Buckeys
- 0:52who have a chance to eclipse those marks coming up later this year. Let's
- 0:57bring in Tony Gerdaman of buckey Huddle dot com to answer some questions. Tony,
- 1:03let's start with this one. Well, first of all, you get
- 1:06it clips get it? Yes, because of the sun thing, Tony,
- 1:11Yes, Yes, okay good. I was worried you weren't gonna have to
- 1:15get it, and I was gonna have to spell it out further. But
- 1:17here we go, Tony. Over the last ten years, the most times
- 1:22the Buck Guys have had two running backs each run for one hundred yards or
- 1:26more in the same game. Two running backs in the same game running for
- 1:29one hundred yards each was two back in twenty twenty two, Cravan Henderson and
- 1:34Mine and Williams Still did it against Wisconsin, Mine Williams and Dell and Hayden
- 1:38did it against Indiana. Tony Well, Ohio State eclipse that mark this year
- 1:45by having running backs two running backs run for one hundred yards each in a
- 1:48game three times or more. I will accept total eclipse as an answer if
- 1:53they're going to do it three times or more, or partial eclipse if they're
- 1:56going to do it exactly two times. For this jeopardy, I have to
- 2:00like phrase the answer correctly, Tom, I will say, begrudgingly, a
- 2:07little hatefully. Total eclipse, I too, seems pretty low. I was
- 2:14a little surprised when you just mentioned it. It's only two again, get
- 2:19more games this season. I think the running, the running attack will be
- 2:23better. If you go back to the last time Ohio State had a quarterback
- 2:27that could run or would run, twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, they led
- 2:30the Big ten and rushing by a wide margin. So I think they'll get
- 2:35back to some of that and maybe tom maybe we'll even get the Travan Henderson
- 2:39Dallan Hayden connection that we have not did not get in twenty twenty two.
- 2:44But this seems pretty safe to me. I feel not that eclipses are safe.
- 2:52We know they're dangerous, very very a lot of superstition there, and
- 2:55who knows what's going on behind the sun. We don't know, But this
- 3:00feels like a safe total eclipse for me. So yeah, it does feel
- 3:07like they're gonna at least at least match that this year. Just because you
- 3:12got Trevian Henderson, you get quinch On Judkins, They're gonna split the carries.
- 3:15They're both guys who can pop off a big run that gets you a
- 3:19lot of the way there. Yeah, I'm with you. Feel it feels
- 3:23like they're at least gonna match and possibly exceed that now if you include quarterbacks.
- 3:29Had they did it three times in twenty fifteen, that was each time
- 3:32was JT. Barrett and Ezekiel Elliott. And they did it four times in
- 3:36twenty thirteen, that was Carlos Hyde and Braxton Miller each time. But to
- 3:39do it with two running backs and not with a quarterback being one of those
- 3:43guys, that's a little more difficult for them to do historically speaking. But
- 3:47having a running quarterback might open up some things in the run game for the
- 3:51running backs as well, So we will see. I forgot to look.
- 3:54I think the last time they had three running three players run for one hundred
- 3:59yards. I think they might have done that in twenty eleven. That was
- 4:02one of those things that I probably should have looked up and then didn't.
- 4:04But yeah, all right, so we're we're betting the over there if we
- 4:10will on that one, all right, Tony Chris Carter as a true freshman
- 4:15in nineteen eighty four forty one catches six hundred and forty eight yards eight touchdowns.
- 4:21By the way, if you go and look this up on like Sports
- 4:24Reference, those are not going to be the numbers that actually show up because
- 4:27back then Bowl game stats did not count towards your actual you know, did
- 4:31not count towards your season totals. So you're gonna look and you're gonna say,
- 4:34those idiots, why do they have bigger numbers than it says here?
- 4:39That's why. So Chris Carter forty one catches six and forty eight yards eight
- 4:46touchdowns is a true freshman? Tony Jeremiah J. J. Smith will he
- 4:51fully or partially eclipse each of those three numbers this year? Tom, I
- 5:00feel like Columbus, Ohio is in the path of totality on this one.
- 5:08And it's again, it's not safe to say this. It is not it's
- 5:13not cool to be throwing this kind of these kind of expectations on a true
- 5:17freshman. But as we've said before, this is his fault, this is
- 5:19not our fault. We're just reacting to what has been happening and what we're
- 5:23seeing and what we're being told. And feels like the forty one catches that
- 5:29to me, that to me, strangely, feels like the most difficult target
- 5:34in this But I until until I see otherwise in the little that I've seen,
- 5:43I'm gonna have to go with outrageous expectations until I am proven the otherwise.
- 5:49I am going to stick with the total eclipse on this one, and
- 5:56you can try to talk me out of it. Maybe after a maybe,
- 6:00after a drop in the spring game, I will back off. We're gonna
- 6:03get to see him and the rest of the team at practice on Friday and
- 6:08then at the spring game on Saturday, So we're gonna have a lot more
- 6:12information a week from now than we do at the moment. But yeah,
- 6:16between what we've been hearing and what we've seen in our limited opportunities this spring,
- 6:21I am kind of grudgingly going along there with you. I think the
- 6:25odds that he hits all three of those and exceeds all three of those,
- 6:30that feels not too likely to meet. I don't know which one I feel
- 6:35like is. I can kind of talk myself into any individual one of those,
- 6:40being like, well, that's probably gonna be the one that he doesn't
- 6:42hit. You know, to exceed eight touchdowns as a true freshman, that's
- 6:46a lot to exceed forty one catches a true freshman, that's a lot,
- 6:50you know, six hundred and forty eight. It's obviously the record for a
- 6:54true freshman at Ohio State. That strangely, I think to me feels like
- 6:58the one that's most likely to fall the yardage total, then maybe the touchdowns,
- 7:03and then the catches. But I don't know that I'm comfortable betting against
- 7:09him on any of those. And you know, maybe the touchdowns push and
- 7:12that makes it makes it not quite as you know, not a completely totally
- 7:17one record breaking through freshman year. But you know, if if he breaks
- 7:23forty one catches and breaks six hundred and forty eight yards and only Tony gets
- 7:26eight touchdowns, that's ye know, that's that's not bad, I guess.
- 7:29I mean at the at the level of you know, that expectations continue to
- 7:32be increasing for him, at the rate at which they continue to be increasing,
- 7:35that might be considered a you know, disappointing season by some people.
- 7:40That would be a pretty good season. We will see. All right,
- 7:43let's switch sides to the ball to the defense. Now, Tony Ohio State
- 7:47had seven interceptions in twenty twenty three, tied for one hundred and twelfth in
- 7:51the country. They had eleven interceptions in twenty twenty two, tied for fifty
- 7:57first in the country. Those are the two years of the Jim Noles defense.
- 8:03I'm going to ask you, seven is incredibly low, eleven is really
- 8:09average. Funny. I'm going to ask you to put those two together.
- 8:13Eighteen interceptions the first two years of the Jim Knowles defense. Will they eclipse
- 8:18eighteen interceptions this year? Bearing in mind number one, they get everyone back
- 8:22on defense, and number two, they are probably playing several more games than
- 8:26they have the previous couple of years. Yeah, with the idea that all
- 8:33of these numbers all came from twelve, thirteen, fourteen game schedules, some
- 8:39eleven game schedules. This being a sixteen possibly sixteen game schedule, seventeen game
- 8:43schedule, you feel like you just kind of shoot for the moon. Tom,
- 8:50I don't get it. Don't notice tell me on this eclipse stuff now,
- 8:56after what you've been asking me to do here. So the in eighteen
- 9:03interceptions, they've done that before, and I think twenty sixteen. They were
- 9:07in the twenties, I think. And of course it helps when you've got
- 9:11Molie Cooker to be able to do something like that eighteen interceptions. These things
- 9:16also come in waves. And I don't know that I don't know if the
- 9:20big ten quarterbacks are all that great, so maybe maybe they'll get some there,
- 9:24and certainly they're not playing anything on the in the non conference, so
- 9:30oh eighteen, Well, I'm sure you're not going to hit this exactly.
- 9:35So it's either no eclipse or total eclipse, because I don't expect you to
- 9:41be right on it. But I also don't like just saying oh, oh
- 9:45oh, total eclips, total eclipse, total eclipse, and now Tom the
- 9:48word has lost all meeting and your show sticks m I. Eighteen does not
- 9:56seem like a lot. That's barely one a game, But I will say
- 10:01I'm gonna say no eclipse. Turns out the weathermen were wrong. Take that
- 10:07astronomers. Yeah, it is the last time Ohio State got even close to
- 10:11that was fifteen back in twenty nineteen, and in twenty sixteen they did have
- 10:16twenty one, so that's the last time they did eclipse that mark. So
- 10:18yeah, I think that's going to be challenging to get there. Tony as
- 10:22a hater again only thinking they're going to play thirteen games. I mean,
- 10:28listen, I didn't say it, he did rewind it. Go ahead,
- 10:31download the show again and make sure I was telling the truth there. Yeah,
- 10:35I think that's going to be challenging to get there. Would probably say
- 10:39less than fifty percent that they that they match or exceed that mark. Here's
- 10:43another one that's challenging Tony. Last year, the defense allowed eleven point two
- 10:48points per game. That was second in the nation, but would have been
- 10:52good for first in the nation in a lot of recent years. Will Ohio
- 10:56State's defense eclipse that, allowing fewer than a left point two points per game
- 11:01this year. That's that's a tough one because the schedule, again the non
- 11:07conference is not very good. But it's not like Notre Dame lit them up
- 11:11last year. That's just a very low number, and I don't know that
- 11:15you can expect to be lower than that. Again, I don't expect them
- 11:18to be right at it either. That would be even more odd. But
- 11:24the defense, by everybody's account, should be better. I mean, you've
- 11:28got Caleb Downs coming in the defensive line. Everybody is very very motivated.
- 11:33Everybody's a year older, year better. There is talent everywhere. Brian Day
- 11:39is expecting a better defense, Jim Knowles is expecting a better defense. So
- 11:43if this is a better defense but they give up fewer points per game,
- 11:46I mean that math doesn't make sense to me. So I guess based on
- 11:52that, And I don't know the last time they were lower than this,
- 11:56maybe two thousand and seven they had like the nation's tops scoring defense. But
- 12:01you sew what happened in the end the BCS title game that year. So
- 12:05eleven point two? Is that what you said? Tom? Eleven point two?
- 12:09Yes, man, And I will remind you you are under oath.
- 12:16I know, I know, And Uh, I'm gonna say no eclipse because
- 12:22you know why, Tom, at least uh, they'll probably get there.
- 12:26They're going to give up a touchdown or so every game I think from the
- 12:31second team defense, and in terms of not every game, but the second
- 12:35team defense is going to give up some points because I think they're going to
- 12:39be out there quite a bit in the fourth quarter. So I will say
- 12:43no eclipse again, will not happen? All right? So last year,
- 12:50do you know there was only one team that gave up fewer points than them?
- 12:52They gave up ten point four points per game. Do you know who
- 12:54which team that was? That would be the Michigan Wolverines. It was the
- 12:58Mission and Wolverine's ten point four that was good for number one in the nation
- 13:01last year, Tony, do you know the last time a team in the
- 13:05United States of America in Football Bowl Subdivision gave up fewer than ten points per
- 13:11game? I do not would have been a knick Staban defense. It would
- 13:18have been a knick Staban defense eight point two points in two thousand and eleven.
- 13:24That was the year that they played the nine to six game against LSU
- 13:28in the regular season and then didn't let LSU get across the fifty yard line
- 13:31in the National Championship. So I was going to ask you if they were
- 13:35going to eclipse that. Unfortunately, you disappointed me and said that no,
- 13:39they weren't going to do these other earlier one So that's fine. Let's see
- 13:43if you can end on a positive note here, Tony currnt record in Ohio
- 13:48State football history is three postseason games in one season, Tony, Do the
- 13:54Ohio State Buckeyes eclipse their previous record by playing four or more season games including
- 14:01the Big Ten championship game and College Football playoffs? Yeah? I do.
- 14:07I keep calling this a sixteen game season, so I sorry, totally clips,
- 14:11Tom. I believe that the moon will move in front of the sun
- 14:16completely in direct eyesight and a line of sight with us. So I do
- 14:22expect more than three playoff games postseason games, and I'm not expecting that to
- 14:30be a first round game somewhere, like I'm expecting the buy in there.
- 14:37So yes, Tom, I think I think four is the target. That's
- 14:43what I've been operating on. That's why I'm going over on all of these
- 14:46things. Where that's right, I'm going totally clips on so many of these
- 14:52numbers. Is because I believe that they will play sixteen games this year.
- 14:58Well you heard it here. First, save the those eclipse glasses. You
- 15:01may need them for this fall. Ohio State football going to be eclipsing a
- 15:05lot of previous marks unless Tony's wrong, which I mean that probably also hasn't
- 15:09happened since eighteen oh six, So you have that to look forward to this
- 15:13fall. We appreciate you sticking with us through you know, Tony's commitment to
- 15:18the BIT. We appreciate your commitment to us and to this show. We
- 15:20appreciate your commitment to us at Buckeye Huddle dot com, where we have many
- 15:26of our wonderful listeners and viewers. Here are also members there. We would
- 15:28love to see you there, if you're not already a member. It is
- 15:31a fantastic place to tac Ohio State football and what should be a very very
- 15:37special and memorable season certainly shaping up that way. We're gonna have plenty of
- 15:41coverage of the Buckeyes down the home stretch of spring football this week, heading
- 15:43into Saturday spring game at Ohio Stadium take off at noon on Fox. We
- 15:48will be there. We'll have all sorts of coverage, plenty of stuff to
- 15:52talk about, plenty of stuff to discuss and learn, and then we'll have
- 15:56a whole fun summer of anticipation as a head into this to the football season
- 16:02twenty twenty four cannot wait. So make sure you wear your glasses today,
- 16:07don't get don't go blind. There's going to be a very exciting football season
- 16:10coming up that you're going to want to watch. So make sure. We
- 16:12will be back tomorrow with a whole new look at I don't know, probably
- 16:17probably less of a hacked hack need kind of gimmick a show. Tomorrow,
- 16:22Hopefully maybe we'll see Hopefully, hopefully you guys enjoyed that one. We will
- 16:27talk to you guys tomorrow