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The Bolt Report | 29 October · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: The reform it. Tonight, Anthony Albanezi another car crash press
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  Speaker 1: conference he refuses to deny. He asks the Quantus boss
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  Speaker 1: for upgrades in a performance that should scare his labor MPs.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how long it'll be before they start talking
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  Speaker 1: about the leadership. Also tonight, new evidence of the Abendeza
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  Speaker 1: governors indirectly helping to fund terrorists, and a new government
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  Speaker 1: report confirms our leaders overreacted in the COVID pandemic hit
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  Speaker 1: us with ludicrous bands and restrictions that we're still paying for.
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  Speaker 1: But it won't name and shame the guilty. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the Aberdeze governments trades tried to rewrite its own history
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  Speaker 1: in releasing this report will sort that out. Plus the
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  Speaker 1: polls and our tip Donald Trump will be elected president
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  Speaker 1: again next week, and we'll say by Kamala Harris is
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  Speaker 1: in such trouble. The first something that's been overlooked in
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  Speaker 1: all the fuss over Albanese's freebes something far more dangerous
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  Speaker 1: to our future. I've just read something today that should
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  Speaker 1: set off the alarms in every liberal politician's office, and
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  Speaker 1: am asking them why haven't they said something? Because this
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  Speaker 1: is very serious. We could now see the nation's savings
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  Speaker 1: squandered on the Albanese government's failing and crazy global woman schemes.
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  Speaker 1: This man is Greg Combe. He used to be the
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  Speaker 1: boss of the ACTU, was laid a climate change minister
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  Speaker 1: of the Gilad Labor government giving us the carbon tax. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: is a global woman crusader. Now the danger is that
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  Speaker 1: the Albanezi government has this year put Combe in charge
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  Speaker 1: of our Future Fund, replacing former Liberal Treasurer Peter Costello.
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  Speaker 1: The Future Fund is massive. It's talk about two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty five billion dollars. Is a fund meant to
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  Speaker 1: earn money to pay specifically for unfunded super that the
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  Speaker 1: government has to pay public servants. Under Costello, who did
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  Speaker 1: that job brilliantly, earned on average more than eight percent
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  Speaker 1: a year for a decade. And one reason for that
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  Speaker 1: is that under Costello, who doesn't mack around with climate
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  Speaker 1: change nonsense, it made a lot investing in fossil fuels,
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  Speaker 1: cold companies, gas companies. But now Comba says he wants
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  Speaker 1: to use this huge pot of money to invest in
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  Speaker 1: the government's global warming schemes, clean energy and all that.
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  Speaker 1: He said, the Australian economy faces an important challenge to
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  Speaker 1: reduce greenhouse gas emissions as sourcing opportunities for investment in
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  Speaker 1: the energy transition will be a feature of our strategy,
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  Speaker 1: which is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: For a start.
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  Speaker 1: Nowhere in the legislation to create this Future Fund, Nowhere
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  Speaker 1: in its charter is it said that its job is
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  Speaker 1: to fight global warming. It's simply there to make as
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  Speaker 1: much money as it is legally possible to help keep
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  Speaker 1: the government solvent. As the Future Fund itself says it
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  Speaker 1: is required under its act to seek to maximize the
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  Speaker 1: return earned on the fund over the long term, consistent
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  Speaker 1: with international best practice. But now here is Combo saying, no,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to help cut astrow's emissions.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: So where would Combo then like to invest our billions instead? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I said specifically, but did spell out a few hints
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  Speaker 1: in a speech earlier this year.
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  Speaker 3: Hundreds of billions of dollars in investment will be needed
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  Speaker 3: to achieve net zero green hydrogen, green metals, green manufacturing.
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  Speaker 3: There are opportunities like this in other industrial regions around
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  Speaker 3: the country.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at just the first of the so called opportunities,
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  Speaker 1: green hydrogens. Seriously, that's not an opportunity, Greg, that is
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  Speaker 1: a money pit. I know the government's hot for green hydrogen,
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  Speaker 1: which is supposed to use massive amounts of wind and
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  Speaker 1: solar power to make hydrogen from water.
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  Speaker 4: Now green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
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  Speaker 1: Trouble is, as Bowen is found, big energy companies like Origin,
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  Speaker 1: Woodside and Andrew Forrest's Fortescue have since walked away from
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  Speaker 1: the Governor's planted hydrogen hubs, saying that green hydrogen is
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  Speaker 1: just too expensive to make work. And in fact, just
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  Speaker 1: last week the government's own Australian Renewable Energy Agency said
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  Speaker 1: green hydrogen does not work economically in any circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment.
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  Speaker 1: The cost of solar power would have to fall by
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  Speaker 1: two thirds before hydrogen became cheap enough to use. So
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  Speaker 1: is that what our new head of the Future Fund
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  Speaker 1: calls an opportunity? So you see the danger when an
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  Speaker 1: ideologue moves from the simple goal of just making money,
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  Speaker 1: you then risking chasing dreams and not dollars, and at
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  Speaker 1: risk are Australia's savings. Greg Combay must be stopped. The
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  Speaker 1: obdiss governed today released the report it commissioned from health
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  Speaker 1: experts into Australia's response to the COVID epidemic. Oh my,
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  Speaker 1: this was far too gentle about a response that should
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  Speaker 1: shame this country. Our leaders overreacted, They spread fear, they
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  Speaker 1: smashed the strands with tough bands and massive overspending, and
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  Speaker 1: too many Straliers just took it and are now paying
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  Speaker 1: for it. Now all this should have been obvious at
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  Speaker 1: the time. God knows, I try to warn about this
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  Speaker 1: time after time. Now sure this report now admits, yes,
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  Speaker 1: we did overreacted.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: It says a number of the more contentious measures, such
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  Speaker 1: as enforced quarantine, curfews and closing outdoor playgrounds, were not
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  Speaker 1: supported by pre existing evidence. It says the government should
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  Speaker 1: have checked with the experts, but they did. That's the
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  Speaker 1: problem that they checked with their preferred experts, the ones
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  Speaker 1: who were saying, well, close the playgrounds, chase people out
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  Speaker 1: of the parks and the beaches, locked them in their homes,
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  Speaker 1: even though, as I said at the time, the overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: evidence was that COVID was almost never spread outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: Now this report says.
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  Speaker 1: Many other measures were also not scientific, did a lot
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  Speaker 1: of damage. Closing the borders without compassion, of closing the
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  Speaker 1: schools again, where was the science in that almost no
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  Speaker 1: child died from this virus?
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  Speaker 2: I said it at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm no expert, but the experts and so it was
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  Speaker 1: a result children in Melbourne, for instance, lost nearly a
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  Speaker 1: year of direct schooling. Now this report should have named
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  Speaker 1: and shamed these politicians and experts responsible for this disaster.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't, he said. We of course, we've seen people
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  Speaker 1: of Victoria's chief medical officer get an Order of Australia,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much, his boss, Premier Daniel Andrews getting
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  Speaker 1: a statu to himself.
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  Speaker 2: See.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is in part because the Albanies govenment,
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  Speaker 1: trained new to this report, said the experts shouldn't look
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  Speaker 1: at the unilateral actions of the states. Now don't look
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  Speaker 1: at them though they were the worst offenders. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the Treasurer today exploited the release of this report to
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  Speaker 1: find one more excuse for the high inflation under his watch.
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  Speaker 1: The Morrison governany said I spent far too much on
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  Speaker 1: the stimulus to keep the economy going during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 5: Big decisions were taken and big mistakes were made. Those
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  Speaker 5: mistakes were costly and they were inflationary. The extended policy
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  Speaker 5: support which didn't always move in line with the health advice,
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  Speaker 5: meant that peak inflation was at least two percentage points
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  Speaker 5: higher than it could have been.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Chalmers, you are a hypocrite. It's true the Burrison
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  Speaker 1: governments spent too much, but Labor Jim Charmers, wanted it
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  Speaker 1: to spend even more. Here is Charmers was then in
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  Speaker 1: the opposition near the end of the pandemic, demanding the
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  Speaker 1: government drop its plans to wind back the expensive job
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  Speaker 1: keepers spending.
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  Speaker 6: Are they're in too big a rush to withdraw support
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  Speaker 6: from the economy while unemployment is still rising. The rate
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  Speaker 6: and eligibility of job keeper is entirely the preserve of
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  Speaker 6: the treasurer. He gets to set the rates and the eligibility.
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  Speaker 6: We urge him to reconsider winding that back because the
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  Speaker 6: economy is still in all sorts of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: And that wasn't all Labour wanted to pay people to
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  Speaker 1: get vaccinated. That would have cost another six billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: All these other schemes that all up would have meant
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  Speaker 1: that Labour spent eighty one billion dollars more than even
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  Speaker 1: the Morrison government. So bottom line, our politicians and most
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  Speaker 1: of the health bureaucracy went mad during the pandemic, so
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  Speaker 1: did labor who did all or authoritarian As this report said,
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  Speaker 1: human rights went out the window. Victorious police would you
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  Speaker 1: believe even handcuffed a pregnant mother in front of her
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  Speaker 1: children at home for posting on the internet a protest
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  Speaker 1: of the restrictions that this report now admits We're too tough.
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  Speaker 1: Other reports as oh oh, how do you know? People's
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  Speaker 1: trust in the authorities has been broken? But until some
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  Speaker 1: people lose their jobs for what they did to us,
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that.
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  Speaker 2: Changing at all.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me as my Tuesday regular National senat and Matt Canavan,
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  Speaker 1: the former Resources Minister. Matt Canavan, Good to see you,
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  Speaker 1: but this report your response.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I think you've summed it up very very well, Andrew.
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  Speaker 7: People have had their trust destroyed in institutions, the institutions
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  Speaker 7: that lied to them, exaggerated the pandemic, and then ultimately,
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  Speaker 7: as you've outlined, locked them up in their own homes,
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  Speaker 7: kept their kids going from school, stopped them from saying
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  Speaker 7: loved ones even if those loved ones were on their deathbed.
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  Speaker 7: So many people were harmed by the decisions made during
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  Speaker 7: the pandemic. Yet the people who made those decisions, who
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  Speaker 7: made those mistakes, have received almost zero accountability. Now I
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  Speaker 7: haven't been able to read all of this report today,
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  Speaker 7: but I welcome its at least admission of those failures.
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  Speaker 7: It's an admission, though, that it had to make under
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  Speaker 7: enormous constraints imposed on the review by the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 7: He told them they couldn't look into the specific decisions
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  Speaker 7: of the state governments. He exempted them from this review.
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  Speaker 7: They've held no public hearings of any kind. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: how can we restore trust in our society until those
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  Speaker 7: people who made those decisions come in and under oath
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  Speaker 7: tell us all what the hell happened, How did this happen,
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  Speaker 7: why did it happen, and how do we make sure
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  Speaker 7: it never happens again. As admirable as the findings of
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  Speaker 7: this review are, I don't think we've got closure yet
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  Speaker 7: until we have a proper royal commission into the COVID pandemic.
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  Speaker 7: We had one one hundred years ago after the Spanish flu.
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  Speaker 7: We've got we have ones almost every time there's a
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  Speaker 7: policy issue. Now we have a royal commission. But the
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  Speaker 7: time when the governments have spent that most money imposed
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  Speaker 7: the most draconian controls on you. They've refused to have
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  Speaker 7: a royal commission to themselves. That's not going to do
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  Speaker 7: nothing to restore trust. We badly need to restore trust
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  Speaker 7: in our public institutions, but I don't think it will
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  Speaker 7: happen until there is accountability.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's also forget that this is a wider cultural problem.
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  Speaker 1: I had my faith in this country shocked that Australians
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  Speaker 1: so readily embraced the fear and the restrictions that were
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  Speaker 1: now paying for with high inflation and low productivity, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Plus, of course, you know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: children missing out on crucial education and socialization. Matt Canavan
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of the show this new
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  Speaker 1: Future Fund boss Greg combat saying he wants to invest
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  Speaker 1: more of our money in the Future Fund to cut
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  Speaker 1: emissions and get to net zero.
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  Speaker 2: Is that his job? Well?
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  Speaker 7: I wish it wasn't. I think he's going to get
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  Speaker 7: away with it under this government because they're effectively here
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  Speaker 7: using your pe bank to pursue their own political pet projects.
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  Speaker 7: This is your money, it's not there. It's not Greg
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  Speaker 7: Combo's money, it's not anythoning Albanesi's money. It is the
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  Speaker 7: money of the is Train taxpayers, and if it is
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  Speaker 7: misspent and lost and squandered, then we'll all have to
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  Speaker 7: pay more in the future to pay for these unfunded
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  Speaker 7: public sector liabilities which remain unfunded. The Future Fund does
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  Speaker 7: not cover all of them, despite the admirable work of
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  Speaker 7: Peter Costello. And Peter Costello, you know he clearly ran
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  Speaker 7: the fund to make sure it offer a return. And
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  Speaker 7: I think when we invest our money in our own
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  Speaker 7: superannuation funds or invest them in a managing investment trust,
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  Speaker 7: what we want, what our managers to do is to
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  Speaker 7: make a return, for us to spend our money wisely
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  Speaker 7: and put that money to work. What's happening here is
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  Speaker 7: because the government is out of money and it's renewal
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  Speaker 7: balancy projects are attracting the investment it thought they would.
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  Speaker 7: It's going to go and ray, it's going to go
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  Speaker 7: smash this piggy bank and fund. Like the offshore wind
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  Speaker 7: projects that are falling over before our eyes, the hydrogen
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  Speaker 7: projects which even Twiggy Forest is walking away from. Why
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  Speaker 7: would we throw such good money after bad and invest
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  Speaker 7: in projects the private sector doesn't want to touch with
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  Speaker 7: a barge pole.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is so dangerous. Stick to your knitting,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Combo. Just make money to fund future liabilities and
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  Speaker 1: let saving the planet up to the government. Later in
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  Speaker 1: the show, Matt, I'm going to show the Prome Minister's
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  Speaker 1: car kresh press conference over claims that he personally contacted
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  Speaker 1: the Quanta spots to get upgrades. I mean we're talking
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  Speaker 1: really serious money all up, including them as you didn't
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  Speaker 1: ask for quarter million dollars. Who knows where though, is
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  Speaker 1: the proof that the Prime Minister actually did ring Joyce
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  Speaker 1: did do anything wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it turns on that question, Andrew. Obviously there's been
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  Speaker 7: allegations here put in a new book that come from
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  Speaker 7: apparently Quantus insiders, that the Prime Minister had a direct
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  Speaker 7: line to the CEO of Quantus, Allen Joyce at the time.
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  Speaker 7: Now the promise has been asked about that and he
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  Speaker 7: hasn't given an unequivocal answer that he didn't do that.
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  Speaker 7: So that of course raises question and of course exposes
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  Speaker 7: a lot of smoke. If he did do that, it
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  Speaker 7: would seem to be a breach of the ministerial stands
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  Speaker 7: of the time. And I think they're still in that
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  Speaker 7: form which say that you, as a minister, you can't
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  Speaker 7: solicit a gift in your role as minister. He would
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  Speaker 7: clearly have breached that code. Now that's a very serious breach.
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  Speaker 7: It looks even if even putting the code aside, it
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  Speaker 7: just beggars belief that any minister of the Crown would
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  Speaker 7: think it's appropriate to call up if he has done this.
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  Speaker 7: This is of course Andrew call up the CEO of
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  Speaker 7: a major company in the area that you regulate and
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  Speaker 7: say hey, mate, can you do me a solid It
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  Speaker 7: is just absurd and goes to the integrity of character
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  Speaker 7: the promise. And now, as I say, these are allegations,
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  Speaker 7: but the pri Miister deserves or the people I should say,
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  Speaker 7: deserve an answer from the Prime Miister. Did he call
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  Speaker 7: Alan Joyce to line up these kickbacks?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Mcanavan, good to talk to you, Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. Now to another scandal. Israel's parliament, the kindesst
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  Speaker 1: has just voted overwhelmingly to declare UNWA, that's the United
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  Speaker 1: Nations organization supposedly helping Palestinians, to declare it a terrorist
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  Speaker 1: group and has banned it from working in Israel, not
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  Speaker 1: in Gaza, but in Israel. How far a Minster Penny Wong,
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  Speaker 1: she actually funds this UNRUA despite overwhelming evidence that are
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  Speaker 1: presented before that Israel is right, Unrah has actually employed terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Wong in twenty twenty two doubled our fund
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  Speaker 1: into the body by twenty million dollars and added another
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  Speaker 1: six million later and now complains that UNWA does life
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  Speaker 1: saving work and Australia poses this decision to severely restrict's work.
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  Speaker 1: What will it take for our foreign minister to admit
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  Speaker 1: that she has been indirectly funding Hamas with our money?
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  Speaker 1: Take This man is Fata sheriif Abu Elamin. He's a
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  Speaker 1: school principal, paider UNWA and a teacher union official, or
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  Speaker 1: it was until Israel killed him, which is when the
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  Speaker 1: Hamas terrorist group which slaughtered twelve hundred Jews on Otoba
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  Speaker 1: seven said he was in fact the Hamas leader in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Then there's Mohammad Abu Atui. Israel
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  Speaker 1: claims he was photographed here leading Hamas unit which threw
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  Speaker 1: grenades and shot into an Israeli bomb shelter in October
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  Speaker 1: seven and kidnapped survivors, including one who had his arm
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  Speaker 1: hand blown off. This guy too, was paid by Unwar,
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  Speaker 1: which Wong has funded with our money. To repeat, join
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  Speaker 1: me as a man who's done most to expose how
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  Speaker 1: UNWA hired Hamas operatives unknowingly, it claims his helll noya
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  Speaker 1: head of you in watch hellll great to see you again.
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  Speaker 1: I've been a long admirer of the amazing work you
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  Speaker 1: have done. How many Hamas terrorists and members has UNWA
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  Speaker 1: allegedly hired.
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  Speaker 8: We're estimating several hundred in Gaza alone. You know, just
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  Speaker 8: in July, Israel formally submitted a list of one hundred
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  Speaker 8: Hamas members terrorists to the head of UNRA, Philippe Lazarini.
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  Speaker 8: One of the names on the list was the terrorist
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  Speaker 8: you just mentioned, Mohammad AbuI Tiwe. His name was on
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  Speaker 8: the list given to Anrah in July. For four months
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  Speaker 8: they did nothing. This was not just a Hamas member,
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  Speaker 8: not just a terrorist, commander of the Hamas no Okuba
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  Speaker 8: commando squad that massacred Israeli's fleeing the Nova Music Festival,
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  Speaker 8: kidnapping Israeli American Hirsch Goldberg, Poland and others, dragging them
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  Speaker 8: into Gaza. He was driving an UNRA truck when Israel
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  Speaker 8: delivered justice to him last week, meaning for four months,
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  Speaker 8: NRA officially had his name. I tweeted it out in
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  Speaker 8: July and sent it to ANRA. Israel formally sent them
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  Speaker 8: a letter. They knew Andrew UNRA knew. They knew their
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  Speaker 8: employing terrorists. You mentioned the head of the UNRA teachers Union,
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  Speaker 8: a school principle of a major school in Lebanon was
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  Speaker 8: head of Hamas in Lebanon. You don't think everyone in
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  Speaker 8: his refugee camp knew. You don't think people in UNRANU.
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  Speaker 8: Of course they knew. They protested for three months when
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  Speaker 8: he had a slap on the wrist suspension. Everybody knew.
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  Speaker 8: They did nothing, and the Australian government Knew's let's tell
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  Speaker 8: the truth, your foreign minister, she knew as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, those are allegations. Of course, I think the government
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  Speaker 1: denies knowing it, but honestly, the evidence starts thearing in
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  Speaker 1: front of them. I mean, you've got one thing you
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  Speaker 1: didn't say about that God was the head of the
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  Speaker 1: teaching union and it was a Hamas official. If the
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  Speaker 1: head of the teaching union is employed by UNWA and
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  Speaker 1: is in Hamas, you've got to be sure that there
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other Hamas operatives under his wing. They're
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  Speaker 1: also being employed by UNWAH. Now does this mean you're
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  Speaker 1: what you've uncovered, what Israel has ut covered. Does that
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  Speaker 1: mean that Australia has been indirectly funding terrorists?
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  Speaker 8: Well, absolutely it does. And again when I say that
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  Speaker 8: the Australian government knew, I don't mean they necessarily knew
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  Speaker 8: every single detail, but they knew enough to be aware
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  Speaker 8: where their money is going. You know, back in January,
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  Speaker 8: when we released a report showing expose a telegram chat
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  Speaker 8: group of three thousand UNRA teachers who were celebrating the
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: massacre and slaughter of families on October seventh, as it happened.
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: We released that on January tenth, in a report called
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: the Terragram, Your Foreign Ministries diplomat dealing with these issues,
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: Mark Ennis Brown, falsely dismissed our report, saying that there
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: was a photo on a blog post that wasn't correct.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: He tried to dismiss our report. He tried to dismiss
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: our allegations when he appeared before the Australian Senate. What
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: we've seen from the Australian government is denihialism is defamation
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: against those who are telling the truth. So you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: our reports are seen in the international community. I've presented
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: them before the United Nations in Geneva at the Human
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: Rights Council, Australian diplomats are present. So the notion that
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: they had no idea, you know, the UN spokesman when
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: it was revealed that the terrorists that you show on
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: your screen before mister Fatri al Sharif, when Ramas acknowledged
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: that he was their leader in Lebanon, the UN spokesman
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: in New York, Stefandujarak said, well, you know, Hamas people
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: normally don't reveal that they're part of AMAS, so there
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: was no way that we could know. Well, in this case,
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: Fatri al Sharif was hiding in plain sight for ten
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: years on Facebook. Every day he was posting incitement to terrorism,
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: celebrating Hamas leaders, posting pictures of himself with the heads
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: of the Jiad, heads of Hamas heads, even up Al
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: Taida affiliates. So the notion that they didn't know. If
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: I'm sitting in Geneva and I can find this out
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: on my open source searching on Facebook and searching on
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: the Internet. You can be sure that everyone in Unra
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: NW and for them to pretend that they have no
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: idea is just not credible at all.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: S true.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And as I've shown, I've shown children who have been
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: gon to Unua's schools telling us that they were taught
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to hight Jews and to kill Jews. I mean it
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: was all there. You just had to open your eyes.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Hell NOI thank you so much for your time and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: for your work, really appreciate it. After the break Anthony
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Albanese's car crash press conference today, why couldn't he just
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: say straight out no, no, no, I didn't ask.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: The countess boss for upgrades.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I mean he got probably a quarter of a million
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: dollars worth it all up.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: How does that work?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Anthony Abaneze had another shocker today, a car crash press conference,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: which I think will make many of his MPs wonder
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: again if he's now lost his mojo. The issue is
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: not just whether ALBINIZI rang his mate, the contest boss,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Alan Joyce, to get upgrades and even holiday flights for
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: him and his family, which was a serious breach of
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the rules for a transport minister as he was for
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a time. I mean We're talking really serious money here,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: essentially gifts that I'm guessing worth quarter.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Of a million dollars maybe more.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: The other issue, though, is how Albanizi today defended himself
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: or failed to in a really undisciplined performance. Now Albinizi
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: is accused in a new book by Joe Aston Is
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the form of Financial Review columnists are personally asking Joyce
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: for some of these upgrades, but Albanizi today did not
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: give a straight denial. He said, yes, he talked to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Joyce about two flights to Dubai into London from Perth.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Their quantits are put on for the medium politicians sell
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: new services, but he didn't say with it. Also put
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the bite on Joyce for holiday upgrades too, to his
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: flights to Europe and Los Angeles and Honolulu.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I have said very clearly that I recall direct discussions
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: with Alan Joyce over over the flights, the Emirates or
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Quanis flight to Dubai and of course the first flight
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: to Perth. They're the only times that I was on
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: a plane with Alan Joyce.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But this is the critical issue, you know, because it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: true that Albaneze declared his flights right, but when he
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was Transport minister. The code of conduct was that no
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: minister could ask for a gift in their personal capacity,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and boy it was these big gifts.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So so no wonder the Albaniz.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: He looked rattled today and he lashed out, starting with
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Joe Aston.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: The person who is trying to sell a book, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: fair enough, I don't see decorations. He's a former Liberal
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Party staffer for a number of senior members of the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party, including Joe Hockey and Bruce Baird. I don't
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: see decorations. He's a former Quanas employee. I don't see decorations.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: In June, just a few months ago, he was a
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: guest him and John Howard a Liberal Party fundraise a.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: In fact, That'ston said in the very first sentence of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: his book that he had and involved with Quantas and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he started tangentially when he was employed by a federal Liberal.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: MP, Bruce Baird.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It's no secret and not very relevant, asked them today.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Hit back in an interview with Sherry Marks of his
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: screen just after my show.
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: The ones who bang on the most about their origin story,
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: you know, about how they grew up in a brown
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: paper bag, or they floated to an Australia on a
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: stick of spaghetti. They're always the ones who are most
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: are most susceptible to the high life. And I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: it's certainly true that for someone who came from so little,
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Albanezi has an insatiable appetite for VIP travel and hospitality.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Joined me is the panel, Will Kingston host at will
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the podcasts from The Spectator on Politics and Culture, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Anika Di Giorgio of Prime Time here on Sky at
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: seven pm on Fridays. Will, we don't actually have proof
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that the Prome Minister did ask the conscious boss for
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: upgrades for private flights, So are we actually I'm sure
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: he did anything wrong?
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we can be pretty sure. Andrew, there's
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: no reason to not trust Joe's reporting. He's a highly
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: credible journalist. But above and beyond that, Albernesi has incriminated
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: himself with that pathetic press conference today where he didn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: deny the allegations. Look, we've actually seen in the UK
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: a freebie scandal that's engulfed the Starma government, and what
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: Alberesi is being accused of is ten times worse than
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: anything that Kis Dama has been accused of. Because it's
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: so obvious to see the link between benefits that have
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: been given to Alberzi and then preferential treatment that's been
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: doled out to Quantus. I think we're going to hear
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: a lot more about the Catar decision from about a
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: year back. That's going to be dredged up. I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: the Coalition can smell blood here, and rightly so. This
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: is a infrectibly bad look. I can't remember an equivalent
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: level of tawdryiness and sleeves and corruption in a government
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: scandal in Australia, perhaps in my life.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Hut. Now I'm going to say I can't see a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: direct link between anything that he got and anything that
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he did for Quantas, and he would deny that. But
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just simply not a good look, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it's not good practice to take freebies when you're in
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: charge of anything involving that same entity as a minister
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Now, Denika, what do you make of this?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Is this a real scandal? Is it a sort of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: a media hype business as Prime Minister's trying to suggest.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Has he got more questions to answer?
• 27:35
  Speaker 11: Of course he's got more questions to answer. Do you
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: remember I think it was only about twelve months ago
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: Andrew the Prime Minister said to us, quote, my word
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: is my bond, and hasn't that fallen by the wayside
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: very quickly? Because you can't trust him, You can't believe
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: a word he says. I mean he may as well
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: today that dreadful press conference said the dog ate my
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: homework because he blamed everybody except for himself. It was
• 27:59
  Speaker 11: a train wreck from start to end. Now put aside
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: the fact that this could be in breach of the
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: Ministerial Code, which is terrible, terrible to start with, it's
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: very very serious, but the optics of this are equally
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: as bad. He is fresh from the Copa Cabata only
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: two weeks ago, where he once again was telling us
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: I've come from state housing, I understand the struggles of
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: everyday Australians. To now clearly enjoying the champagne and the headlights.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: It's gone to his head. He's got a very tough
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: sell ahead. But it's not a good look Andrew, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: quite frankly, he needs to really take a good look
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: at himself in the mirror, be upfront and be honest
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: with Australians.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And just make one more point.
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: He's also got eleven media advisors, eleven and not one
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: of them nor the Prime Minister today could get basic
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: information right. And they've all made idiots of themselves.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Well, Deanika that he makes some good points there, including
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I should add, you know, it's not just the freebie flights.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: There's the free tickets, the free tennis tickets, the free
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Kit tickets, on and on, and seen dancing
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: around at midnight all concert. I mean, for heaven's sake,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: tone it down now, though, I think a little less
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: conspicuous consumption might do you the world of political good will.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier the report today that said our governments
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: went in too hard, sometimes without evidence, for their bands
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: during the COVID pandemic, ludicrous bands. Here is the federal
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: healthiness that mark Butler today.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The report.
• 29:37
  Speaker 12: At a number of points through its through It points
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: to the impact on children and young people of that
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: and school closures. They instance, some restrictions on playgrounds and
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: whether they were evidence based decisions rather than decisions guided
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: by the precautionary approach, which was appropriate in the very
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: early stages of the pandemic.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: What gives me the absolute errits will is that it
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: was plain as the nose in your face at the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: time that these were stupid, unnecessary, damaging restrictions. I'm not
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the only one to have said it. The experts said
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: we were all wrong, and now we're told far too late.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Oh dear, yes, sir, no, they were unnecessary after all.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you make from all this?
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the problem wasn't that we didn't follow the science.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: The problem was that we exclusively followed the science, or
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: maybe more accurately, followed unscientific scientists. The government outsourced all
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: of their decision making to the so called experts.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: We had a.
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: Pandemic plan in place before COVID hit, and that was
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: junked as soon as we saw that. China locked down
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: and we should follow suit. Something like this ultimately is
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: about actually thinking about freedoms and thinking about how do
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: governments make cost benefit decisions, taking into account science, economics,
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: social policy, all those sorts of things. Unfortunately, this misses
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: the mark and doesn't take into account why we made
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: those problems during COVID and how we can do it
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: better for the next one.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Denika, at least the government says, oh, well,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: fixes in We've got quarter of a million dollars coming in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the Center of Disease Control.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Is that really enough?
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: No, it's not enough. I think many of us couldn't
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: care less about this Center for Disease Control. Don't care
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: what it's about, don't care what it is. What I
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: think most of us care about is ensuring that this
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: firstly never happens again, because it will happen again, there
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: will be a pandemic in the future. And secondly, that
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: those leaders are held to account for the arbitrary and
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: disgraceful rules and regulations which we were all under for
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: so long. But not just that, the fact that families
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: were separated. People took their own lives during that time
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: because they were so upset by these border closures. Businesses
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: went bust and we're still feeling the effects of that today.
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: Labor weren't held to account, none of those premiers were.
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: We need a royal commission to ensure that this does
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: not happen again. I think this was a complete cop
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: out today and again the Center for Disease Control. Please,
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: what's that going to do?
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: Nothing?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I've got to correct myself. I have two hundred I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: said quarter of a million.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: That's of course, what alban Ezy got in freebies by calculation,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the Center of Disease Control is going to get two
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million. Will This report says, oh, look,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the Governm's made decisions that weren't based on good science.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Follow the science. You make the right point that we did.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: The problem was we did follow the science like we're
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: following the global warming science. And it says people have
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: lost faith in experts. I wonder if this is part
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of a wider lot of faith in experts and science,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: so called global warming scientists making wild claims. For instance,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: given this, look at this, the Albanizy government now, as
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: part of this loss of faith, is announcing what it
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: calls Australia's National Science and Research Priorities, which says, transitioning
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to a zero future, that's the global warming scare, supporting
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: healthier thriving communities.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Also elevating aboriginal terrestrate Islanders' knowledge systems. Seriously, that's a
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: scientific national scientific priority. I mean really, and then you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: protect the environment, et cetera, et cetera. Is this really
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: real science? It seems increasingly politicized.
• 33:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the Omni cause strikes again, Andrew, I'm surprised that
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: trans rights didn't make it onto the list. This is
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: ultimately something which the government has no business being involved in.
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: This would should be left to the private sector, It
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: should be left to universities. Unfortunately, what this means because
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: it has been politicized to your point, research grants will
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: overwhelmingly go to left wing causes and our education institutions
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: will be further corrupted by this sort of woke orthodoxy,
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: and that's been driven from the very top levels of
• 34:01
  Speaker 10: the Australian government.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Janika di Georgia, Will Kingston, thank you so much for
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a refreshing burst of the common sense. After the break the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: American election, the campaigns been hit by new allegations of
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: racism and an affair with the Communist Party officials daughter
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a guest who looks like a winner. Well, let's see
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: what the polls are saying, because there's only a week
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ago until America chooses its next president. After the craziest
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: campaign I've ever seen, maybe the most consequential. Now, on
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the one side, this Donald Trump has survived two assassination
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: attempts too, and four legal wars by Democrat prosecutors trying
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to get him jailed and out of the way. On
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the other, we've got Vice presid Kamala Harris took over
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: as the Democrat candidate after Trump smashed Dottary President Joe
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Biden in.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: The one and only debate. Again.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: On the one side, this Donald Trump has created almost
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: a cult, drawing massive crowns even in left wing New
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: York yesterday today boasting was a bigger drawer than even
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: former President Ronald Reagan. And then on the other there's Harris,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: an airhead propped up by celebrities like Bruce Springsteen today
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and running on one thing above all.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: She isn't Donald Trump. She's now branding a Nazi.
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: We understand the opportunity that we have before us to
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: turn the page on the fear and divisiveness that have
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: characterized our politics for a decade because of Donald Trump.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: The Poles have said the late momentum is now with Trump,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: but both sides today are dealing with last minute embarrassments.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Harris's running mate, Tim Wallas is now accused of sleeping
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: with and abandoning a Chinese student back when he was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: teaching English in China, leaving a feeling suicidal. She says,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: you'res said to be a the year daughter of a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: top communist official.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Well, how about that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: On Trump's side, they are dealing with the fallout from
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that racist joke told by a comedian yesterday's Trump rally,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: A joke I showed you last night that the Trump
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: crowd actually booed, but which Harris is instantly exploited to
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: get the Latino vote.
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: A floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean.
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: I think it's called Puerto Rico.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico.
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: I will never forget what Donald Trump did.
• 36:27
  Speaker 13: He abandoned the island and offered nothing more than paper
• 36:30
  Speaker 13: towels and insults. Puerto Ricans deserve better.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Well, what Kamalahara said that Donald Trump did only giving
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a paper towels as a lie, of course, has been
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: well exposed before, but what does that matter to her?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Joining me is.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Sean Spiceer, the first White House spokesman a president Donald Trump.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Sean spice is great to see you again. This election,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of course, just for the viewers, is decided by how
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: each state votes, and it's said to come down to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: seven swing states, the battleground states.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: In the ways you got to Nevada and.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Arizona, and then Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, and then
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the big one Pennsylvania. Sean looking at those seven states,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: what are the polls now saying?
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: So it's interesting because not only are those seven battleground
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: states in play, and I think, and I'm trying to
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: be objective here just so the viewers know, right, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: support Donald Trump, But in every one of those states,
• 37:34
  Speaker 14: when you look at the battleground poles in them, Donald
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: Trump is either ahead or the wind is at his
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: back in every single one of them.
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: Early vote in.
• 37:44
  Speaker 14: Nevada, which Republicans have never led, suddenly Republicans are up.
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: Same thing Georgia. We're seeing unbelievable turnout for Republicans in
• 37:51
  Speaker 14: the early vote, which is where Democrats tend to bank
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: their vote. But here's the real interesting thing about this, Andrew.
• 37:57
  Speaker 14: There's for what I would call Tier two New Mexico,
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: New Hampshire, Minnesota, and Virginia. And we saw a poll
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: out today in New Hampshire showing Donald Trump up half
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: a percentage point. Now is that big no in itself, No,
• 38:14
  Speaker 14: But this is a state where Donald Trump had been
• 38:16
  Speaker 14: down six to ten points and The reason I bring
• 38:19
  Speaker 14: this up is that we're seeing it not just there,
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: but in New Mexico as well. And if you start
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: to see that in the Tier two states, then it
• 38:26
  Speaker 14: really tells you where we are in the Tier one states.
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: The wind is at Donald Trump's back. In these final
• 38:31
  Speaker 14: seven days, I feel good about every one of them.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Well, if you're right, this could actually turn out to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: be a blowout.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Trump's big issues have been cost of living, of course,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: things worse under Biden and Harris over the last four years,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and illegal immigration Biden and Harris living in around ten
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: million illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 2: I was also enjoyed some of the lines.
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  Speaker 1: In his speech yesterday where he's talking about things like
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  Speaker 1: tearing up the Green New Deal, which is a huge scam,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: global warming scam, what to waste the money. Harris's issues
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: big one is abortion rights and simply not being Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Of all that, what is biting Well, I think the.
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  Speaker 14: First two that you mentioned. Look, at the end of
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  Speaker 14: the day, economic security and personal safety always trump everything
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: else because you.
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  Speaker 7: Can't none of that.
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  Speaker 14: No other issue will matter if you're not safe or
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  Speaker 14: can't take care of yourself or your family economically, and
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  Speaker 14: so as long as those are the dominant issues, they
• 39:35
  Speaker 14: benefit Donald Trump, one because the incumbent party doesn't do
• 39:38
  Speaker 14: well in either of those circumstances. And two because uniquely
• 39:42
  Speaker 14: he has a record of results to point to, so
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  Speaker 14: he can literally say, here was the unemployment rate under me,
• 39:48
  Speaker 14: Here's what it is under Harris and Biden. Here's what
• 39:51
  Speaker 14: the crime rates were under me, Here's what they were there, right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: That's a very unique thing in a campaign. And Donald Trump,
• 39:58
  Speaker 14: you talked about that Madison Square are an epic rally
• 40:01
  Speaker 14: that they had Sunday night. That's where he really is
• 40:04
  Speaker 14: honing in on. The last couple ads that they have
• 40:06
  Speaker 14: are crystal clear it's about policy. And Andrew, as I said,
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: I mean what people can't take care of themselves financially,
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: when the cost of buying basic necessities food and gas
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: and things like that are becoming prohibitive from them, then
• 40:21
  Speaker 14: they vote for the campaign and the candidate out of power.
• 40:25
  Speaker 14: They want change. And the other thing is just plain
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: old safety and security. And we're seeing that over and
• 40:30
  Speaker 14: over again with stories throughout the country of people in
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  Speaker 14: this country illegally committing crimes. This issue is just something
• 40:38
  Speaker 14: that's constantly in the news and there's no greater contrast
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  Speaker 14: between Donald Trump and this Harris Biden administration when it
• 40:44
  Speaker 14: comes to securing the country than on immigration and border security.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, Sean I reckon, just like we saw after Hillary
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Clinton lost to Donald Trump, suddenly revisionist books about it
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  Speaker 1: everything that went wrong that the same riders saying at
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the time, what do you think what's the early draft
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: of history?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: What will they say when Kamala Harris loses about where
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: she lost it?
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  Speaker 14: I think that you're putting your finger on a question
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  Speaker 14: that I've been trying to get to myself, because I
• 41:14
  Speaker 14: think there's different versions and it's going to be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Which one wins.
• 41:18
  Speaker 14: Is that Biden didn't get out early enough, that she
• 41:21
  Speaker 14: didn't engage with the media early enough that she hear
• 41:23
  Speaker 14: her policies and inability to explain those policies or why
• 41:27
  Speaker 14: she flipped up. But there's a variety of choices. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 14: just don't know which narrative is going to take hold.
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  Speaker 14: And I also think Andrew, I don't need to be cynical,
• 41:35
  Speaker 14: but I think that they're going to come up with
• 41:36
  Speaker 14: a new excuse that somebody interfered with the election the
• 41:39
  Speaker 14: way they did with the Russians in twenty sixteen because
• 41:41
  Speaker 14: they can't fathom. I talk to Democrats all the time.
• 41:44
  Speaker 14: They just can't believe they're losing to Donald Trump. So
• 41:47
  Speaker 14: I don't know. I think that there's real answers and
• 41:49
  Speaker 14: then there's ones that are going to make up to
• 41:51
  Speaker 14: make themselves feel better.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right, they're going to say she should
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: engage with the medium more and et cetera, cetera. But
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's a looking one critical fact that we've
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: talked about before. She's actually a hopeless candidate, absolutely hopeless,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and the more Meadia she would have done as soon
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: as she would have crashed and burned. Sean Spice are
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: always great to talk to you. Thank you so much,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: see your son Andrew.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: After the break. There is another prime minister just like
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Alban Easy. It was born Poor loves Freebies.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The book What.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Happened to Him a bad omen for Albin EASi. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: played earlier that clip of Joe Aston saying people who
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: talk about being poor seem to love most the perks
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of success. I don't know if that's true, but Anthony
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Alban Easy, I've got to say all these freebe upgrades
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: from quantas, allegedly even asking for them. There's another example,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and that one spells real trouble for him. It's a
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: British prime minister, like Will Kingston said earlier. Keirstarmer, same thing.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: He grew up working class father, a toolmaker, mother and nurse,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: often sick, made good, very that's very nice, very good.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But boy does this socialist like his free bees too?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: He took one hundred thousand dollars in free clothes and
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: glasses from a Dona, and that much again in free accommodation,
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  Speaker 1: free tickets to concerts like Taylor Swift's. And what a coincidence.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And he has he got free Taylor Swift concerts of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: tickets too. And I wonder if he'll now suffer the
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: same fate as Stamber, because Starmer has seen his approval
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: ratings totally collapse in just four months, from a positive
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: eleven percent to a negative thirty eight. Joining from London's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: writer broadcast and columnist Esther Krak, who is the great
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to see you free gear, Starmer is now called how
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: much has it hurt Starmer to be taking so many freebes?
• 43:47
  Speaker 14: Oh?
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  Speaker 15: It's heard to me mentally, I mean he looks like
• 43:49
  Speaker 15: the ultimate hypocrite, not least because he would have been
• 43:52
  Speaker 15: the first person to deride the Tories if a similar
• 43:54
  Speaker 15: scandal came out about a Tory prime minister. You know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 15: you will be amazed to find out that after this
• 44:01
  Speaker 15: Previe scandal, not one single media outlet ask Kis Starmer
• 44:05
  Speaker 15: what he agreed to in exchange of all these free gifts.
• 44:07
  Speaker 15: And that's what I find incredible, because it's not just
• 44:10
  Speaker 15: about getting one hundred thousand pounds worth of free gifts
• 44:12
  Speaker 15: or having, you know, Lord Ali give you five thousand
• 44:15
  Speaker 15: pounds as a wardrobe budget for your wife, even though
• 44:18
  Speaker 15: he can come stably afford it. It is what did
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: he agree to do or what favors did he agree
• 44:24
  Speaker 15: to give in exchange for all this free stuff? And
• 44:26
  Speaker 15: for some reason, asking that question is completely taboo. He
• 44:29
  Speaker 15: just accepted free stuff because you know, he has very
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: generous friends. I'm happy to let you know that if
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: you wanted twenty four hour unfettered access to Downing Street,
• 44:37
  Speaker 15: the going rate now apparently is five hundred thousand pounds
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: half a million pounds, which is is what Lord Ali
• 44:42
  Speaker 15: donated to the Labor Party to get unfettered access to
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: ten Downing Street. I mean, these are the kinds of
• 44:49
  Speaker 15: things that have come out in the media that have
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: really hurt Kiss Salmer's reputation, and it's just gone downhill
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: from here. We're all sort of holding our breath waiting
• 44:56
  Speaker 15: for the budget to come out tomorrow. But you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 15: the the Labor Party at the moment in Kistalman in particular,
• 45:02
  Speaker 15: his leadership is unredeemable because not only did he remove
• 45:05
  Speaker 15: the winter field payments from pensioners, some of the most
• 45:08
  Speaker 15: vulnerable and porous in society, but he's gone back on
• 45:11
  Speaker 15: many of his promises. Now apparently landlords and people that
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: provide essential services are not working people, which is giving
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: him the green card to tax them to high heaven.
• 45:19
  Speaker 15: And you know, many people are thinking, you're happy to
• 45:21
  Speaker 15: tax us, but you're also happy to take one hundred
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: thousand pounds worth of free gifts and act like it's nothing.
• 45:26
  Speaker 15: I mean, when he says his father was a tool maker, yeah,
• 45:28
  Speaker 15: it looks like he made a tool.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, you know, where's the pride. I'd be
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: too embarrassed to take gifts like that. You'd feel sort
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of unmanned to take it. But it's a true putting
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: on you such a wise observer of human naturists. There
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: is a true the politicians who boast they came from
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: nothing are actually keener.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: They have everything.
• 45:54
  Speaker 15: Oh absolutely. I mean, if you look at Kis Starmer,
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: he has a history of just being effectively a public
• 46:00
  Speaker 15: servant or a public worker. He's never started a business.
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: He has no real private sector experience. And that's the
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: thing with these politicians. They like to boast about their
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: working class credentials, but they've never built anything. They've never
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: really done anything of any import And this is why
• 46:13
  Speaker 15: they tend to run the countries that they manage into
• 46:15
  Speaker 15: the ground, because they don't understand private enterprise or business
• 46:18
  Speaker 15: or you know, managing a family, but of your own
• 46:21
  Speaker 15: hard work. They just suck off the teacher of the
• 46:23
  Speaker 15: government and government financing. And you can see that with
• 46:26
  Speaker 15: Kirs Starmer, the fact that he's had to brag endlessly
• 46:29
  Speaker 15: about being a working classman. I mean, I personally find
• 46:32
  Speaker 15: it bizarre because you never really hear people from the
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: Third World, actually poorer countries, bragging about being working class.
• 46:38
  Speaker 15: I would never say, oh yeah, at one point in
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: my life, I've lived in a mudhart, But for some reason,
• 46:42
  Speaker 15: they use it as a badge of honor, and they
• 46:44
  Speaker 15: end up taking thousands of pounds and freebies from people.
• 46:47
  Speaker 15: It's completely ludicrous.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Look, here's an interesting contrast theys that I have wondered about.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've got polls suggesting to the Americans, of course
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: going to make Donald Trump their president next week. Will see,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I think they probably will. But two thirds of British
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: people polled so they want him to lose the same
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: story in Australia, in a couple of poles. I think
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it's the same is true in most prisitern European countries.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Why is Trump so popular in the US so unpopular
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: outside it?
• 47:18
  Speaker 15: Well, it's because our media class, who see themselves as
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: the arbiters of polite society, just cannot fathom the idea
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: that this man might actually be popular domestically. And these
• 47:27
  Speaker 15: are the same people that also ignore the concerns of
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: most prisons. By the way, I mean, the same kistarma
• 47:32
  Speaker 15: that's saying that we should face reality and and and
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: and be happy to face a tighter budget. It is
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: also happy to spend millions of pounds a day to
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: house illegal immigrants in hotels when there are thousands of
• 47:44
  Speaker 15: homeless people, homeless British people on our streets who are
• 47:47
  Speaker 15: lining the you know, the the pavements and platforms and
• 47:50
  Speaker 15: train stations across the country that don't get don't get
• 47:53
  Speaker 15: a second look at. So it's you know, these people
• 47:55
  Speaker 15: are just completely disconnected from reality, but they also disconnected
• 47:58
  Speaker 15: from the rest of the country, and it seems extension
• 48:00
  Speaker 15: the average American.
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: But you know, I.
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: Don't think that's going to stop. And thankfully the British
• 48:06
  Speaker 15: media class, and I suspect the Australian media class, don't
• 48:08
  Speaker 15: vote in American elections because you know, the world would
• 48:10
  Speaker 15: be doomed.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's in part to do with the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: fact that we tend to send foreign correspondences generally definitely
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: need to report these America tourists, and they do it
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: from very lift wing centers like New York, Washington and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They don't report from the Midwest or anything
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like that, places that are Republican heartlands.
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: Yes, exactly, and.
• 48:33
  Speaker 15: I think there's an element of genuine disdain for Middle
• 48:36
  Speaker 15: America and the kinds of people that would vote for Trump.
• 48:39
  Speaker 15: And for me, what surprises me the lack of critical
• 48:41
  Speaker 15: thinking you don't have to necessarily agree with Trump. We
• 48:43
  Speaker 15: even like him, we even vote for him. To understand
• 48:45
  Speaker 15: where people that would vote for him are coming from,
• 48:47
  Speaker 15: I'm sorry, it's not like that. He's exactly facing a
• 48:50
  Speaker 15: stellar candidate in Kamala Harris. You know, the argument that
• 48:53
  Speaker 15: amongst three hundred and fifty million people, you know, she
• 48:56
  Speaker 15: or he are the best that America has offers is
• 48:58
  Speaker 15: quite dubious. But again, these are not actual journalists. They're activists,
• 49:02
  Speaker 15: and that's a sad thing to see. People used to
• 49:04
  Speaker 15: tune into the media to be informed, not to be
• 49:06
  Speaker 15: told what to think, but apparently having people that think
• 49:09
  Speaker 15: for themselves is too much of a risk to run,
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: so they send these left leaning activists and paint this
• 49:13
  Speaker 15: portray this image that you know, it's completely unconscionable to
• 49:16
  Speaker 15: vote for someone like him, which I don't think is
• 49:18
  Speaker 15: that simple or even true.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Well, in the end, Americans will be forgiven for voting
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: for someone who says America first, to make America great
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: is running is the president of America, not at the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: rest of the world. It's so cranky. Thank you so much.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you. See you next week.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: That's it from me now coming up, Sharry Mason, good night,