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Chris Cahill: Police Association President on the Government's commitments to law and order in the next quarter · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Back home. Here comes the law in order to train.
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  Speaker 1: The government set the Q three action Plan yesterday. The
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  Speaker 1: crime and law changes. They're the major focus for laws
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  Speaker 1: to be past things like gang patch bands, increase and
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  Speaker 1: rehab access for prisoners on raman. They're also looking to
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  Speaker 1: improve efficiency in the courts. On top of that, new
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  Speaker 1: bills to tough and sentencing rules and to enable roadside
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  Speaker 1: drug testing as well. Chris Carhill Police Association bosses with us. Chris,
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  Speaker 1: very good morning to you. Broadly speaking, are you liking
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  Speaker 1: what you see?
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  Speaker 2: We are. There's a lot of actionally, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good things. I think the public would generally say this
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  Speaker 2: is the sort of thing we want to see, and
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  Speaker 2: police officers would support that as a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of work and travers though.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. We saw over the weekend the boy racer thing,
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  Speaker 1: and once you dip into a specific area of crime,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to be there's a lot of it out
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  Speaker 1: there to be dealt with. Is that fair?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very fair. Look the weekend's a good example.
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  Speaker 2: It was so successful on Friday night that the boy
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  Speaker 2: racers recruited and police had the court staff then on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday because there was even more of them out there,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, there's lots of challenges when you start
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  Speaker 2: trying to please these things pretty hard.
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  Speaker 1: So what does this tell us about where we've been
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  Speaker 1: as far as police are concerned. How much of what
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  Speaker 1: you deal with crime is police led, top down, police
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  Speaker 1: lead versus the government coming in and going right, we're
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  Speaker 1: doing things differently you go to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly a big change in focus. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of focus around prevention stuff, so we're
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  Speaker 2: getting involved in a lot of what you could call
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  Speaker 2: social work stuff, looking at trying to change things for
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  Speaker 2: the future. This government says, no, we want to focus
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  Speaker 2: more on what's happening at the moment. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that's what the public want to say. They want to
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  Speaker 2: see cops on the beat. They want to see people
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  Speaker 2: that has doing and causing problems for gang members when
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  Speaker 2: they're out there marking life uncomfortable for them, and that's
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  Speaker 2: a lot more proactive. Shall we say, do.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's effective in a more effective way of policing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think you've got to get the mix right,
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  Speaker 2: and I think the mix has gone far too far
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  Speaker 2: away from what was happening in front of them, and
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  Speaker 2: I think the police out there are key to get
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  Speaker 2: involved in what they see, and I think that that's
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  Speaker 2: what the public was. I think the mix had gone
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  Speaker 2: wrong and it's good to see a change.
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  Speaker 1: Do you worry about the judiciary. Do they back you
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  Speaker 1: up so you lay some charges you get to court
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  Speaker 1: that's where the trouble strikes. Or are the judiciary do
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  Speaker 1: you think on board?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the message is clear. Whether we're on board is
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  Speaker 2: another matter and time will tell. But one of the
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  Speaker 2: problems is the court system just can't handle extra work.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the most inefficient processes I've ever met.
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  Speaker 2: It's been like that for you know, as long as
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  Speaker 2: I can remember, and the idea of reforming it, I
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  Speaker 2: sort of shake my head because I've heard this all before.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a bit more efficient.
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  Speaker 1: Is it obviously inefficient? Therefore there's an obvious solution if
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  Speaker 1: we did the right things, or it's just so convoluted
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  Speaker 1: in complex we don't know how to get ourselves out
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  Speaker 1: of the whole.
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  Speaker 2: I think probably the latter. But the key for me
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  Speaker 2: is the number of remands. People shouldn't go to court
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  Speaker 2: and get reminded time and again and again and again.
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  Speaker 2: Things need to be dealt with a fronton. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there was a criminal Procedures Amendmentville was meant to make
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  Speaker 2: this happen. Things like case review here insights, so all
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  Speaker 2: issues in dispute were sorted early. They just haven't worked
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  Speaker 2: to the point they should, so it needs to be
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  Speaker 2: more efficient.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good insight, Chris appreciated as always, Chris caur Hill
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  Speaker 1: Police Association President.
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