Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Tamra Judge and Alexis Bellino)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to to Teas and a Pop with
- 0:12Speaker 2: myself Tamra Judge and today I have from Vegas Live
- 0:16Speaker 2: Baby Bravo con the one, the one and only Alexis Jansen.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna say Jesus No, I'm not calling you
- 0:25Speaker 2: Jesus Jugs anymore. You're now your new name is Jansen Jugs.
- 0:29Speaker 3: They're smaller, went bigger, I went smaller. Yeah, so I got.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Implants put in, but they're very tiny. They're only one
- 0:34Speaker 2: hundred and fifty ccs. But I went bigger and you
- 0:36Speaker 2: went smaller.
- 0:37Speaker 3: I went half, Yeah, you went half.
- 0:39Speaker 2: So how's married life so far?
- 0:40Speaker 3: My gosh, I can't even.
- 0:42Speaker 1: I mean, there's always stressors with when you have six kids.
- 0:45Speaker 1: There's always somebody that's got some crisis or.
- 0:47Speaker 3: This or that. But it is it is, so, it
- 0:50Speaker 3: is different.
- 0:50Speaker 2: I told you this a modern day Brady Bunch.
- 0:53Speaker 3: We are. You have three boys and three girls. Okay,
- 0:55Speaker 3: the Brady Bunch.
- 0:56Speaker 2: So let's talk about like we I had you in
- 0:59Speaker 2: the podcast a little while ago, a couple of what
- 1:01Speaker 2: maybe three weeks ago or so, and we talked about
- 1:04Speaker 2: the wedding and all that stuff. So now you guys
- 1:07Speaker 2: have been married for what a month.
- 1:09Speaker 3: And a couple of weeks or okay, so six weeks?
- 1:12Speaker 2: And so what are the living arrangements? Are you going
- 1:15Speaker 2: to stay in your house?
- 1:17Speaker 1: We you know, it's really weird because we might sell
- 1:20Speaker 1: my house. We don't really know. We're really figuring it
- 1:23Speaker 1: out as we go. We're definitely keeping the house on
- 1:26Speaker 1: the water because we have the boat.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Okay, we have to have the house, even as Shannon
- 1:29Speaker 2: used to be in that house.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Oh honey, we changed it all.
- 1:32Speaker 2: You staged.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Oh honey, it's done.
- 1:34Speaker 2: You stage that shit.
- 1:35Speaker 3: L It's it's moved. It's done.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Okay, you need to redecorate, new sheets, new everything, new mattress.
- 1:40Speaker 1: New bed pillows, everything, everything, but the kids love it.
- 1:45Speaker 2: New ring cameras, no ring cameras, the same.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And you know what, by the way, it's right there
- 1:53Speaker 1: when you walk in, So it's not like anyone's exclude different.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Don't seen not punching?
- 2:02Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're going The other morning I walked out.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I mean, John wasn't the one punching.
- 2:06Speaker 1: No it at all.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Make that Claire, I walked out.
- 2:08Speaker 1: The other morning completely naked because I just got on
- 2:11Speaker 1: the shower and his his house is small, it's small.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Careful, he's going to keep that footage.
- 2:15Speaker 2: He goes.
- 2:16Speaker 3: He goes, Babe, I got footage, and I went like that, now,
- 2:21Speaker 3: yes you do.
- 2:22Speaker 2: You just got to Bravo Khan. Yeah, and I heard
- 2:25Speaker 2: you ran into Shannon.
- 2:27Speaker 3: I don't know how this gets back so fast.
- 2:29Speaker 4: Spencer got here before you. You're your your guy, and
- 2:32Speaker 4: so he told me. He's like, oh my god, we're walking.
- 2:34Speaker 1: You should have seen her face when she walked out
- 2:37Speaker 1: of a room.
- 2:37Speaker 3: And I have my escort taking me and Spencer to
- 2:40Speaker 3: my room.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Escort sounds really weird. I don't think you should use
- 2:43Speaker 2: that word.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Change there. I don't know what handler hand. Okay, that
- 2:48Speaker 3: sounds even weirder.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Escort sounds a little weird and vague's okay, baby, I'm
- 2:52Speaker 2: just throwing that out there.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Let's just say the very amazing person in the four
- 2:56Speaker 1: seasons collared shirt was walking me to my room.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Okay. And so anyway, she.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Walks out, she gives this really bizarre like like look,
- 3:05Speaker 1: and then the elevators right there, and I realized who
- 3:09Speaker 1: I'm like Oh, that's gonna be really weird on the
- 3:11Speaker 1: elevator with her.
- 3:12Speaker 3: So we we hung back and okay, I could have
- 3:15Speaker 3: You know, when I said to Spencer, I said, why
- 3:16Speaker 3: do I do that? Why? Why is it weird?
- 3:18Speaker 2: By the way, I would do the same, would you
- 3:20Speaker 2: would you?
- 3:21Speaker 3: Wait? I wouldn't.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I am not getting in an elevator with Shannon, but door.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I almost honestly afterwards, I thought I looked at him.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Shannon be bore is what I call her. Be bore?
- 3:34Speaker 2: You know, by the way, you know how she came
- 3:36Speaker 2: after you for rehearsing. There's a door, Shannon door. Do
- 3:41Speaker 2: you think she rehearsed with Archie Tamra Grudge?
- 3:45Speaker 3: Oh my god.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Not only that.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Tamara, You've had me on the podcast
- 3:49Speaker 1: enough times now to know that weird things come out
- 3:51Speaker 1: of my mouth that I don't even think about. They
- 3:53Speaker 1: just know they come out. Cookie Sometimes I'm Cookie, Yeah,
- 3:55Speaker 1: I don't. I don't sit in the mirror and practice.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Do I practice my poses for Red car make sure
- 4:03Speaker 1: my stomach's in in a certain dress or gown. Absolutely,
- 4:07Speaker 1: But I don't practice lines.
- 4:09Speaker 3: If they just whatever comes out comes out.
- 4:11Speaker 2: How long do you think she And here's the ironic
- 4:16Speaker 2: thing is I don't hold a grudge. I try to
- 4:18Speaker 2: make up.
- 4:19Speaker 3: You're the one that doesn't. To be honest, I know
- 4:20Speaker 3: you're the one that wants We're.
- 4:22Speaker 4: Still talking about David. Fuck John Janssen. She's still talking
- 4:26Speaker 4: about David. Okay, now that's a grudge. Okay, okay, talking
- 4:31Speaker 4: about gudge.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Please hold on.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Yes, we wish her well. I do, but please God
- 4:35Speaker 2: bless her.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I do wish her well. I do, I truly do.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And from the bottom of my heart, please talk about David,
- 4:40Speaker 1: your husband of decades, and that you have children with me,
- 4:43Speaker 1: talking about my husband who was on and off boyfriend
- 4:48Speaker 1: for a few years of your life, that I've now
- 4:50Speaker 1: been almost longer with and also am married.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Well too, John jans about a bad rap because her.
- 4:55Speaker 2: So we're going to move on. But it's okay from that,
- 4:57Speaker 2: But we were talking about grudges. We bear our grudge
- 5:01Speaker 2: two years ago at Bravo con and we've been kind
- 5:05Speaker 2: of inseparable since then.
- 5:07Speaker 1: You know, I no one gets it, Tam, No one
- 5:10Speaker 1: gets what that felt like in that room. Andy Cohen
- 5:12Speaker 1: was there, He probably felt the love.
- 5:13Speaker 2: He was crying tears.
- 5:14Speaker 1: We all were having tears, and it was like it
- 5:18Speaker 1: was one of those moments where you and I have
- 5:21Speaker 1: grown so much from what we were a.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Decade or both in marriages that we got out of.
- 5:26Speaker 3: There was just a lot of there's a lot of
- 5:28Speaker 3: other stuff.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Just so here's the thing we grew. We grew. Could
- 5:33Speaker 2: you imagine if I went you came back last year
- 5:36Speaker 2: and all we talked about is this shit that happened
- 5:39Speaker 2: between me and you fifteen years ago? Could you, like,
- 5:42Speaker 2: first of all, who freaking remembers that shit?
- 5:46Speaker 4: You know?
- 5:46Speaker 3: I mean, otherwise it still bother anyone.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Anyways, it's like, whatever happened, look at how fast we squashed.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Look at how fast we squashed the beef. We had
- 5:53Speaker 3: a lot of shit. You threw me out of your gym.
- 5:55Speaker 3: You were like, get out of here.
- 5:57Speaker 2: I thought it exact.
- 6:01Speaker 3: I thought you were going to hit me. I went
- 6:03Speaker 3: home that night.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I don't hit anybody.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I went home to my then husband and I said,
- 6:09Speaker 1: I know we're husband's in now, but anyway, I went
- 6:11Speaker 1: home to Jim and I said, I literally thought she
- 6:14Speaker 1: was going to hit me, and I was going to
- 6:15Speaker 1: take it, but I was going to hit her right back.
- 6:16Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If you threw that much TV, can you
- 6:18Speaker 3: throw a punch at me? Girlfriend, I am going to
- 6:21Speaker 3: hit you back, and I was.
- 6:22Speaker 2: I would never hit you xanax Lydia.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Here's the thing, if you and I can get over this.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Question, is were you really taking xanax? I took one,
- 6:34Speaker 1: and I was I because I took.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Sanax this year and drank and didn't go over very well.
- 6:38Speaker 3: I only took like he told.
- 6:39Speaker 1: The doctor told me to take half of one, so
- 6:41Speaker 1: I took a quarter because I don't take prescription anything.
- 6:44Speaker 3: I don't even take advill.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I took it that night, or you took it.
- 6:48Speaker 1: You have taken all the stress of you, Tamra grudge
- 6:53Speaker 1: of all.
- 6:53Speaker 3: The stress of you. I was. I took oxanic.
- 6:56Speaker 1: I told Jim, I am I need and so our
- 6:58Speaker 1: doctor gave me great.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Not only am I a leaker.
- 7:03Speaker 4: Of storyline, you're a am a cyber hacker.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Now I cause people to take xanax.
- 7:11Speaker 3: You know, my reputation met her by the second.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Where's Teddy? Where's Teddy? When you need her?
- 7:17Speaker 3: She's on the way. She's on the way.
- 7:21Speaker 1: No, but you like the stress you and I were having,
- 7:24Speaker 1: and just the whole all of it was coming to
- 7:26Speaker 1: a lot become a lot for me.
- 7:28Speaker 3: So I took He said take a half. I took
- 7:30Speaker 3: a quarter. I woke up that night like straight up
- 7:33Speaker 3: in bed. I'm like, I could never take this stuff again.
- 7:36Speaker 3: It did the opposite for me.
- 7:37Speaker 1: It made me feel like I was I don't even know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: maybe it was laced with something else.
- 7:41Speaker 3: I did have to take it because of you. It's
- 7:44Speaker 3: just the show. Great.
- 7:45Speaker 2: I can see the headlines now, but look how we
- 7:47Speaker 2: made up. But I had to get you medicated first.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Only one time I was your your did situation.
- 7:56Speaker 2: You had to take some little bit.
- 7:58Speaker 3: Of Okay, well, I don't blame you, know, I.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Can't blame for everything you do. I do. I'm Cara.
- 8:07Speaker 2: If this season is not good, it's Tamra. If the
- 8:09Speaker 2: season's great, it's still Tarma's fault.
- 8:12Speaker 3: It's great.
- 8:13Speaker 2: It's crazy, right.
- 8:15Speaker 3: So I really that has bothered me this.
- 8:16Speaker 1: I know you can't talk about it because you're still
- 8:18Speaker 1: filming or like it hasn't comp there, but it has
- 8:21Speaker 1: bothered me.
- 8:21Speaker 3: It does.
- 8:22Speaker 2: It bothers me too. Well, everybody turn their back, yeah,
- 8:25Speaker 2: I know. So let's talk about last season a little bit, Okay,
- 8:30Speaker 2: any regrets, any thoughts if you had to do it
- 8:33Speaker 2: over again, would you any problem with the edit? I
- 8:38Speaker 2: know you're going to be interviewing Alex Baskin.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Okay, well are you even supposed to give that information?
- 8:44Speaker 3: I can give it team in the back.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Room, I think so. Yes. So I hear that you're
- 8:49Speaker 2: going to be interviewing Alex Baskin. So, guys, I want
- 8:52Speaker 2: to let you know that that Alexis is here with
- 8:54Speaker 2: iHeart with to teas in a pod because I can't
- 8:57Speaker 2: be here every single day with Teddy, and Teddy's got
- 9:00Speaker 2: some obligations here as well. At Bravo Kahn Alexis Billin
- 9:05Speaker 2: Billino Jansen or I don't know what to say.
- 9:09Speaker 3: I don't want to.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Trust me.
- 9:13Speaker 1: I told you this last time we talked. It is
- 9:15Speaker 1: kind of going through what you went through with Eddie.
- 9:17Speaker 1: I am Alexis Jansen on the marriage certificate.
- 9:19Speaker 2: That took me three years. Say, he reminds me all
- 9:22Speaker 2: the time.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Right, and so when I'm getting my room and my
- 9:24Speaker 1: license still, says Billino, I am Alexis Jansen.
- 9:27Speaker 2: And can I give you some advice?
- 9:29Speaker 1: Yes?
- 9:31Speaker 2: When your year twins are still in high school, Yes,
- 9:35Speaker 2: when they graduate high school is the time for you
- 9:38Speaker 2: to change your name. It's easier because it's easier because
- 9:40Speaker 2: when you have a different name than your children in
- 9:42Speaker 2: high school, it just makes things weird. Yeah, so that
- 9:45Speaker 2: that's my suggestion is just to wait.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I don't think that you Honestly, I'm not in a
- 9:50Speaker 1: rush because I did do it on the marriage certificate.
- 9:52Speaker 1: So when we get our marriage license, it is going
- 9:54Speaker 1: to say Alexis Janson.
- 9:55Speaker 3: I know I am.
- 9:56Speaker 2: When you see when you said marriage certificate, first thing
- 9:59Speaker 2: came to my I was marriage boot Camp and I
- 10:01Speaker 2: don't ever want to see you on that show again. Okay,
- 10:04Speaker 2: I just want to tell you that, Well.
- 10:05Speaker 3: That was with my mom. What's wrong with that?
- 10:07Speaker 1: Is it? Oh?
- 10:08Speaker 3: It was with your mom?
- 10:09Speaker 2: With what was your ex?
- 10:11Speaker 1: It was called marriage boot Camp family addition, so it
- 10:14Speaker 1: was who in your family do you have the strife
- 10:17Speaker 1: with that you need to mend things?
- 10:18Speaker 3: Tamra. This is gonna make you cry. So I'm not
- 10:20Speaker 3: gonna go deep. I don't want to. I don't I'm
- 10:21Speaker 3: not gonna cry. We're not gonna cry. This is a
- 10:22Speaker 3: fun We're at Bravo.
- 10:24Speaker 2: This is past now.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I know that.
- 10:25Speaker 2: So you realized she.
- 10:27Speaker 1: We spent eighteen days in that Marriage boot Camp house
- 10:30Speaker 1: with she didn't like your ex Corey Feldman. Well that
- 10:33Speaker 1: wasn't it, but yeah, anyway, she Corey Feldman and his
- 10:38Speaker 1: brother Eden and yeah, and then his ex wife Corey's
- 10:42Speaker 1: ex wife, and then Aaron Carter rest his mom Jane,
- 10:46Speaker 1: and then Lauren Govan and her two parents who are
- 10:49Speaker 1: amazingly exceptional people, and then my mom and myself. So
- 10:53Speaker 1: it was all about working through family challenge stuff. Okay,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I had the best experience on that. It was eighteen
- 10:59Speaker 1: straight days.
- 11:00Speaker 2: The way made you have a light detector test?
- 11:02Speaker 3: Yes?
- 11:03Speaker 2: Was it the same guy?
- 11:04Speaker 3: No? It was not.
- 11:05Speaker 2: I know that Gretchen. We did a light detector test
- 11:09Speaker 2: this season, as you know, and it's the same guy
- 11:11Speaker 2: that when she was on Marriage boot Camp that did
- 11:13Speaker 2: the light detector. And then when she did it, she
- 11:16Speaker 2: said in her confessional, I've never done one before and
- 11:18Speaker 2: it was the same guy.
- 11:20Speaker 3: How could she say she's not done it because she's on.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Just in case if it's on national television, that you've
- 11:27Speaker 1: done it on a dinner pinocchio.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Okay, So did you get that out?
- 11:32Speaker 3: Do you feel?
- 11:33Speaker 2: I feel so much better?
- 11:36Speaker 3: Okay?
- 11:36Speaker 2: Right, So I feel so much better now. Sorry, sorry
- 11:39Speaker 2: audio guys. So what I want to say is, let's
- 11:50Speaker 2: talk a little bit about last season. So last season
- 11:54Speaker 2: was rough for you, and I felt like, you know,
- 11:56Speaker 2: when it comes to editing, you got a rough to
- 11:59Speaker 2: edit because there are so many scenes that we did do.
- 12:02Speaker 3: You called me every night, We cried together, You cried
- 12:04Speaker 3: for me, You cried for me.
- 12:06Speaker 2: We cried during filming. Which things they didn't see. It
- 12:09Speaker 2: was only you know about Channon and John right who
- 12:13Speaker 2: you are now married to, and and then it was
- 12:16Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that you know, we talked about
- 12:19Speaker 2: your mom and the stuff that you went through.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Just never watch on your kids. We talked about.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Sick and your children and your divorce and all these things.
- 12:27Speaker 2: It was never shown.
- 12:28Speaker 3: So I felt like for.
- 12:29Speaker 2: People out there that didn't see the full Alexis and
- 12:32Speaker 2: they saw what they saw, like, what do you what
- 12:35Speaker 2: do you say to them? Now?
- 12:38Speaker 1: You know? I feel like everything happens for a reason,
- 12:43Speaker 1: did I Okay, so picture this, you just lose your mom?
- 12:48Speaker 2: Okay?
- 12:48Speaker 1: Five months before, three months before filming, August started filming
- 12:52Speaker 1: December or January whatever that was. So a few months
- 12:54Speaker 1: before we started filming, and you know my phone calls
- 12:57Speaker 1: to you. I said, I don't think I can do it.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Tom. I don't know if I have the energy, the strength.
- 13:00Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 13:00Speaker 5: I'm one talking into signing the contract yes and so,
- 13:06Speaker 5: and then I also have to break up with my
- 13:08Speaker 5: fiance at the time that I knew just was not right.
- 13:11Speaker 1: It's not right to be with someone who's not there
- 13:13Speaker 1: at your darkest hour. So I lost so much after
- 13:17Speaker 1: already getting a divorce from my father's the children, the
- 13:22Speaker 1: father of my children, and then go straight into filming
- 13:26Speaker 1: after all of these other things have transpired. I was
- 13:29Speaker 1: literally on my knees even more, and I kept saying,
- 13:33Speaker 1: to God, why did you do this to me.
- 13:36Speaker 3: After knowing how low I already was. But you know
- 13:39Speaker 3: what it did, Tam.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And this is why I say, what what doesn't kill
- 13:42Speaker 1: you makes you stronger? That song is so true, Thank
- 13:44Speaker 1: you killing Clerksland Clarkson. But I got stronger from it,
- 13:49Speaker 1: and it was like I believe it was meant to happen.
- 13:51Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't have the clear picture,
- 13:54Speaker 1: but what I would say to everybody is you are
- 13:56Speaker 1: hearing more of who alexis really is now than the
- 13:59Speaker 1: pod on all the Pods on Carlos.
- 14:02Speaker 2: So you co host with Carlos, you recap Orange County.
- 14:06Speaker 2: You're so good with Carlos.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're funny.
- 14:10Speaker 2: I think your point across, by the way, he is amazing.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Carlos is absolutely amazing. But I feel like you guys
- 14:18Speaker 2: together are really good, really really good. Someone said, but
- 14:24Speaker 2: there's a lot of headlines now that you're on too.
- 14:27Speaker 1: One of the one of the people at your part,
- 14:28Speaker 1: your party that was amazing. Sorry, we just took had
- 14:31Speaker 1: the party a week ago for you know, Tamaron or yeah,
- 14:35Speaker 1: Tamar and Katie through.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Katie actually through the party. I know you, but you you.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Still were a co host, Yeah, our host.
- 14:41Speaker 1: But anyway, one of them said, you guys are like
- 14:44Speaker 1: the modern day Kelly and Regis, And I'm like, my god,
- 14:46Speaker 1: we are so not because we are not doing the news,
- 14:48Speaker 1: we are doing reality TV.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't I'm just following where
- 14:53Speaker 3: I thought.
- 14:54Speaker 2: That you have a natural talent for podcasting. I really do.
- 14:58Speaker 2: I think you're doing an amazing job.
- 15:00Speaker 3: I have fun with you.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and as much as I want you back on
- 15:03Speaker 2: the show in different circumstances because I could use a
- 15:07Speaker 2: really good friend on the show. And I feel like,
- 15:10Speaker 2: you know, I tell Eddie this all the time, and
- 15:12Speaker 2: I don't want to get like teary eyed, but you
- 15:15Speaker 2: check on me and you tell me you love me,
- 15:19Speaker 2: and here I like, I feel like I have your heart,
- 15:22Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like there's not a lot
- 15:24Speaker 2: of friends that you feel like have your back. And
- 15:27Speaker 2: you know everything that went down.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Last year, No I understand.
- 15:30Speaker 2: I didn't turn my back on you. I did not
- 15:33Speaker 2: know when in my back.
- 15:34Speaker 3: No one understands.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And I want to say this to all the listeners
- 15:37Speaker 1: right now, the all the to tease listeners. Every castmate
- 15:42Speaker 1: turned their back on me last season because of how
- 15:44Speaker 1: much hatter I was getting and I had to shut
- 15:46Speaker 1: off you know, my my Instagram, And then when I'd
- 15:49Speaker 1: go out and meet them for coffee, no one would
- 15:50Speaker 1: want to take a picture.
- 15:51Speaker 3: No one wanted to post it.
- 15:53Speaker 1: You posted on my birthday when I'm at the darkest
- 15:56Speaker 1: time of turning off into getting death threats. John and
- 15:59Speaker 1: I the most horrible human you've ever met, because we
- 16:02Speaker 1: fell in love when nobody, neither of us were with
- 16:05Speaker 1: anyone else.
- 16:06Speaker 3: It's like, you did not turn your back on me
- 16:10Speaker 3: and I.
- 16:10Speaker 1: I so look back at all of that and think,
- 16:14Speaker 1: plus what all the time we just cried about how
- 16:16Speaker 1: the show was getting edited. At the moment, I know
- 16:18Speaker 1: that words not nobody likes. Okay, so how we were
- 16:21Speaker 1: being portrayed is what we should say. Yeah, so because
- 16:25Speaker 1: you do it is true.
- 16:26Speaker 3: What you do say is what you say. You can't
- 16:28Speaker 3: fake them.
- 16:29Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of times things aren't shown, so
- 16:32Speaker 2: you know how it's portrayed. So people are like, why
- 16:34Speaker 2: are you so hard on Shannon, Well, because of the
- 16:36Speaker 2: stuff that I found and she was doing behind my back.
- 16:38Speaker 2: So did they ever show any that. No, So there
- 16:41Speaker 2: wasn't like it just came out of left field, like
- 16:43Speaker 2: I was there until I wasn't right, you know. And
- 16:46Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with being friends with you
- 16:49Speaker 2: or you know I can balance friends.
- 16:51Speaker 3: I can't.
- 16:51Speaker 2: I'm not that person that says I'm your friend and
- 16:55Speaker 2: you're my friend if you like her. If you like her,
- 16:58Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like you.
- 16:59Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
- 16:59Speaker 1: You know how I can vouch for that is because
- 17:02Speaker 1: you were in the middle of me and Jen being
- 17:05Speaker 1: good friends and knowing how much I was talking to Jen,
- 17:08Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, we just left. I was just
- 17:10Speaker 1: left coffee with gen If. One of the times you
- 17:12Speaker 1: called me, I'd literally just gotten in my car. You
- 17:14Speaker 1: did not say one word about it. You were like, oh, okay, cool, okay,
- 17:17Speaker 1: So what's the next time we can all go to
- 17:19Speaker 1: dinner or whatever? We talked about that day. And it's like,
- 17:22Speaker 1: it's like you did not have this. You weren't dictating
- 17:26Speaker 1: any No, I wasn't dictating. I'm not that person.
- 17:28Speaker 2: But I also told you over and over again, your
- 17:31Speaker 2: experience with Jen is your experience, and you might see
- 17:34Speaker 2: things that I already know you might not I don't know,
- 17:37Speaker 2: but you have to go through the experience.
- 17:40Speaker 3: And I told you, I said, where do you stand
- 17:41Speaker 3: with jan?
- 17:42Speaker 1: Right?
- 17:42Speaker 3: No one's going to tell me who to be friends
- 17:45Speaker 3: with you. No one's going to anything.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Let me tell you that right now. She got her
- 17:50Speaker 2: own opinion. Well, I'm still where do you stand with Jen?
- 17:54Speaker 2: Right now?
- 17:55Speaker 1: I mean we're we're still we're still working through it all.
- 17:57Speaker 1: We haven't had the talk of are you texting?
- 18:01Speaker 2: Are you?
- 18:01Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 18:01Speaker 1: We have. I mean, this is what sucks is that
- 18:04Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to go deep about it
- 18:07Speaker 1: because we're still trying to work through it, and we haven't.
- 18:09Speaker 3: We've missed each other.
- 18:10Speaker 1: We both called yesterday even just to talk about things,
- 18:13Speaker 1: and it's like we're both getting ready for Brava Khan.
- 18:15Speaker 3: I had a crisis at work. I have kids that
- 18:17Speaker 3: had need things. She has five kids. Dawson's in town.
- 18:19Speaker 3: It was like, it's like, it's it's not that.
- 18:22Speaker 2: I think I can just give you this and we
- 18:24Speaker 2: can end on this. I think that Jena is a
- 18:26Speaker 2: good person, but I think Jenna is a people pleaser,
- 18:29Speaker 2: and a lot of times when you're people pleaser, you
- 18:31Speaker 2: step on your own shit. So when you're telling one
- 18:34Speaker 2: person what they want to hear, and then you're telling
- 18:35Speaker 2: another person what they want to hear, and then telling
- 18:38Speaker 2: the other person what they want to hear, it causes problems.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Sometimes that's your saying camera that a friend of all
- 18:44Speaker 1: is a friend of none.
- 18:45Speaker 2: None, And that's where I'm problem with her, and that's
- 18:48Speaker 2: where sometimes their stories get a little like forgetful.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Well, I all I know is that you've allowed me
- 18:57Speaker 1: the space to have my friendship with her, and I'm
- 18:59Speaker 1: so thankful for that because that's also why we're so close,
- 19:01Speaker 1: Because you don't bring her up to me. I mean,
- 19:03Speaker 1: we're doing it now because we're talking about the show.
- 19:05Speaker 1: I mean, people don't get it that we have to
- 19:07Speaker 1: talk about this on a podcast. This is something that's today.
- 19:10Speaker 1: We're talking about today. But You've allowed me the space
- 19:15Speaker 1: to have my friendship with her, and I'm thankful for that.
- 19:17Speaker 1: And I'm also thankful that like Jen isn't I mean,
- 19:21Speaker 1: she hasn't been horrible to me. She's she's I'm I'm
- 19:25Speaker 1: still figuring things out. I'm trying to work through it, but.
- 19:28Speaker 2: She's and I'm hoping to work through things with her good.
- 19:32Speaker 3: And I wish just like I'm so excited about you
- 19:34Speaker 3: and Vicki, by the way, let's talk about that. Oh good, Okay,
- 19:38Speaker 3: So Vicki is going to be kind of a Max.
- 19:40Speaker 2: So Vicky and I, you know, we're like sisters. We fight,
- 19:43Speaker 2: we we get mad.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Okay, you need to talk for like a frickin year
- 19:46Speaker 3: or so.
- 19:46Speaker 2: That's for a year. But you know what that was, Shannon,
- 19:49Speaker 2: that's because of Shannon. Shannatorships.
- 19:52Speaker 3: Shannon does that dictatorships don't work.
- 19:54Speaker 2: She's yeah, exactly. She doesn't want to send people to
- 19:58Speaker 2: be friends. And I think that, you know, you know
- 20:01Speaker 2: something was brought up on the reunion about you know,
- 20:05Speaker 2: Shannon recording Vicky while Shannon while Vicky was actually taking
- 20:11Speaker 2: care of her, and you said, and I told you,
- 20:15Speaker 2: and You're like, yeah, I know all about it. Yeah,
- 20:18Speaker 2: I got the text messages. She was texting John too
- 20:21Speaker 2: when this is happening and sending him audio. So I'm like,
- 20:25Speaker 2: I'm not the crazy one.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I'm not the bad one.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Why because I don't want to gets off with everything
- 20:30Speaker 2: I know.
- 20:30Speaker 3: I don't know how. I don't want to be in
- 20:32Speaker 3: the thick of all of this because I'm removed.
- 20:35Speaker 2: You're above it.
- 20:35Speaker 3: I know I'm not above anything. I'm not too good
- 20:38Speaker 3: or above any Here's the thing.
- 20:39Speaker 2: If you talk about Shannon, oh, you're obsessed. If you
- 20:43Speaker 2: get asked about Shannon and you answer it.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Stop talking about her. Notice that.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Notice that every time that lady brought up my name,
- 20:53Speaker 1: we weren't even in the equation.
- 20:54Speaker 3: She talked about you and the whole season, all season,
- 20:57Speaker 3: the whole season.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But I would always I would because I have to
- 20:59Speaker 1: recap it with Carlos and do it. And I'm like
- 21:01Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, I it wasn't like
- 21:04Speaker 1: someone said, oh about Alexis. It was just it came
- 21:06Speaker 1: out of her mouth like she just so, who's the
- 21:08Speaker 1: obsessed one?
- 21:10Speaker 2: And Alexis, I want to say, like there was times
- 21:12Speaker 2: where I would because I had a really hard season
- 21:14Speaker 2: and talking about taking xanax, you know, with Teddy diagnosed
- 21:17Speaker 2: and people.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Just so you guys know, I was on the other
- 21:20Speaker 3: phone and end of the fo.
- 21:21Speaker 2: With her, and I would tell you like, I'm trying
- 21:24Speaker 2: to make up with this girl and she doesn't want
- 21:25Speaker 2: to make up. And you're like, you know, or she
- 21:28Speaker 2: did this to me today and you're like, Okay, Tamara,
- 21:30Speaker 2: you know what, you need to really think about this,
- 21:32Speaker 2: Like you never put her down to me, you never
- 21:35Speaker 2: thought like I took that branch. No, You're like, you
- 21:38Speaker 2: know what, Okay, let's think about this, Let's do what's
- 21:40Speaker 2: best for you, and let's do I mean, at the
- 21:42Speaker 2: end of the day, everyone jay bitches and so you
- 21:46Speaker 2: have to have friendships, but you also have to, like
- 21:49Speaker 2: you've got to think sometimes you have to put emotions aside.
- 21:52Speaker 2: When you're a reality TV person, you have to put
- 21:54Speaker 2: emotions aside and go. It's getting harder for me as
- 21:57Speaker 2: I get older.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I think it's it was harder for me to you
- 22:00Speaker 1: should today because I'm another year older.
- 22:02Speaker 2: No, it was notice he's such a door. It was
- 22:06Speaker 2: hard for me to pack today. I'm here, I'm talking
- 22:08Speaker 2: about emotions. It's hard for me as I get older.
- 22:10Speaker 2: She goes, it's hard for me to pack today. This
- 22:12Speaker 2: is the stuff that I put up with with Alexis Jansen.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Bay Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. We
- 22:18Speaker 2: are at Bravo Con. It is Thursday night and I
- 22:22Speaker 2: am going to watch What Happens to Night and you
- 22:24Speaker 2: are going to hold down the ford here with Teddy.
- 22:27Speaker 2: You're gonna do some interviews. Super excited about this. You're
- 22:30Speaker 2: going to be here for the weekend. And I thank
- 22:33Speaker 2: you so much.
- 22:34Speaker 3: Love you, I love you. Bye.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Hi