Latest / Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast / Austin Jackson talks Justin Verlander, Max Clark and more

Transcript

Austin Jackson talks Justin Verlander, Max Clark and more · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, the Troit Tiger's podcast. I'm Karen Steckley,
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: and I got with me one guy who can bench
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: press three hundred and fifteen pounds another guy that can't.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: I'll let you decide which one is which. Austin Jackson
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Cody stated, what's up, guys, how're we doing?
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: You're putting those jacks hold up?
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: First of all, I thought he would talk about you so.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: I I can get that high. I left a little bit,
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: but I don't. I haven't maxed in years. I doubt
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: I could get that high though.
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: But I'm not.
• 0:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not touching that right now. Man, I got beat
• 0:42
  Speaker 4: up shoulders and back.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: I put one five. I don't care. I don't care.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Well, look it's it's it's been a second since we've
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: had you on AJAX and and it's really cool to
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: be able to talk to you about Justin Verlander being
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: back with the Tigers. You know, guy used to roll
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: with back in the day, and you know, speaking of
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: being old back in the day, Joseph Erlander is old,
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: but he's still doing it. What was your reaction when
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: you saw like the reunion of JV coming to Detroit.
• 1:14
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna be honest, I couldn't help but to
• 1:16
  Speaker 4: be pumped up, man, Like, how can you not? You know,
• 1:18
  Speaker 4: obviously I might be a little biased because I played
• 1:21
  Speaker 4: with him, but I was just pumped up for him.
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: Man, like.
• 1:25
  Speaker 4: It kind of it's like he's doing it for us
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: old dudes, man, like, I love to see the old
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: guys still getting it. But it's it's also awesome that
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: he's back where, you know, where it started for him, man.
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure that's gonna give him a little bit
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: more juice, you know what I mean. I know there's
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: still something left in the tank. But returning to Detroit,
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: getting that old English d back on the chest, man,
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's gonna rejuvenate him a little bit. Man,
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: he's gonna go out and have a pretty good season.
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: He Jackson, you need should have been out there with
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Miggy Man talking to him about it. He was like,
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. I think Miguel was fired up to see
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: to see JV back in the old English d and
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: he was around. I was hoping he would step in
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: the box man. He was watching Verlander's Live BP and
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: Miggy earlier had said, like, I don't want any part
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: of that. I don't want to see any nighbor League picture.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: I was hoping once he saw a few, he might
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: get back in the spirit. I asked him, are you
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: sure you don't want him there?
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: He's like, no, bro, that's that's what I'll talk about.
• 2:23
  Speaker 4: Like that's that was actually gonna be my next thing.
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: Like as soon as you mentioned Miguel, I'm like, hold
• 2:28
  Speaker 4: up now, Niggy, go try to you know, is he
• 2:31
  Speaker 4: gonna try to get back getting there? But nah, man,
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: that's I mean, that's cool for him too, because obviously
• 2:36
  Speaker 4: he was. He was there at the same time. You know,
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: they kind of came through there together, and uh, you know,
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: I bet it was cool to see see the old
• 2:43
  Speaker 4: face in there. And and like I said, it's still
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: doing it, man, Like he's still doing it for us,
• 2:47
  Speaker 4: old guys man. And we you know, we're we're we're
• 2:49
  Speaker 4: behind him, we're pushing for him.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: So well, it's funny like the past couple of years,
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: sort of like the the the jv Aura has been like,
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: you know, he's just a father, he's married, he's kind
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: of like soften around the.
• 3:05
  Speaker 5: Edges a little bit.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: When you hear that, is that like like as I
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: can only imagine having, you know, shared a clubhouse with him.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: When you hear that, does that even seem like a
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: real thing? Do you actually believe that? Or or can
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: you see like you know, a softer JV. Can you
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: can you actually see that?
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: I mean no, and yes, you know, because I think
• 3:26
  Speaker 4: at some point, you know, you kind of that that
• 3:30
  Speaker 4: that old fire you know, is still in there, you
• 3:33
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's still in there, but
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: having kids kind of softened you a little bit. But
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: at the same time, having kids and letting them come
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: around your job and see what you do every day,
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: you know, it kind of likes that firing you as
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: So you know, i'd have to see.
• 3:49
  Speaker 4: Man, I've been around that dude too much, and I
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: don't know if he's softening that much, Like he might
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: be messing with y'all like that when that dude gets
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: in between the lines, many'll think the bulldog is there.
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a J.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: Hinch made a comment like that. He's like, we'll see
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: if he's actually softer, you know, one game day you know,
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: I'll believe that part when I see it, And to
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: be fair, I don't think that's ever part of what
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: Verlanders said. He talked about being better behind the scenes
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: and spending more time with his teammates. He never said
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: anything about being softer when it comes to the competition
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: aspect of things.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll be excited to see maybe maybe got
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: to get one of those teams like a reunion at
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: America Park this year and you you know, and just
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: have just have JV walk out, you know fully in
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: uniform and you know that would be uh, that would
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: be a real special moment. Uh.
• 4:44
  Speaker 5: I'm glad.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Also the timing, Austin to have you have you on
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: today because we just watched Max Clark obviously the number
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: one outfield prospect that the Tigers have, like go through
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: it a little bit, especially defensively losing balls in the
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: sun and technically only charged with one air. But you
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: can all see that, you know, they're both ease and
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: the evaluation book. So I kind of spend some time
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: if you would, because you're obviously you know, been through
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: this and you're teaching the game with with your son, like.
• 5:19
  Speaker 5: Is it true? Is it true?
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: The old al k Line line, you should never lose
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: a ball in the sun. How do you battle the sun,
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: especially you know these Florida spring training games. Is there
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: a technique to it? Do you have any he just
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: sheds this is a pun here. Can you shed some
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: light on on on this for us, like how how
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: difficult that is or how you navigate it, you know,
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: like all all that stuff.
• 5:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I was very fortunate to you know, have
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: coaches work with that with me in in the minor leagues.
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's something that that is worked
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: on as much, probably because you know, the game is
• 5:58
  Speaker 4: just different. It's about hitting and offense, offense, offense, But
• 6:02
  Speaker 4: that that was, you know, very detrimental to you know,
• 6:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of outfielder's not learning that early and coming
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: up through the Yankees organization when I first got there,
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: that was like a practice that was a little literal
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: practice where they would take a pitcher machine and sit
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: it at home plate and put you out in the
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: outfield and line it up directly with the sun and
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: just see what you were made of, like see if
• 6:28
  Speaker 4: you could go and we're just getting beat up and
• 6:31
  Speaker 4: it's like all right enough, okay, Like let's show y'all
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: how to actually do this, And yes, it is.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: It is a technique to it.
• 6:39
  Speaker 4: It's really getting to the side of the getting to
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: the side of the sun and the ball comes out.
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: It's really it's really as simple as that.
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: Obviously, you're using your glove to you you hold your
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: glove in front of the sun, right and you kind
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: of turn and the ball just comes out. It's crazy,
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: and it's something that I when I when I got
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: that concept down, the balls hitting the sun, it just
• 7:06
  Speaker 4: it never bothered me. Again, it was just a technique
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: that I always knew where the sun was.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: Obviously it's right there in our face.
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: So any ball hitting the air, I had already practiced it,
• 7:18
  Speaker 4: like in between innings of you know, if a ball
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: goes in the air, I knew how to block the
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: sun and turn to the side, and the ball literally
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: would just it would just come out, and then you
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: just go over there and catch it. I think what
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: happens is guys kind of panic when the ball goes up. Yes,
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: you do lose it initially in the sun. You're like,
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: where is that ball? Well, guys, stop working around the
• 7:41
  Speaker 4: ball or I guess the sun really and trying to
• 7:44
  Speaker 4: play the to get that ball to come out of
• 7:47
  Speaker 4: the sun, because it will. But that initial panic you
• 7:50
  Speaker 4: kind of freak out and you just throw your hands up.
• 7:53
  Speaker 4: But really there is a technique to it, and you
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: know I could show I could show them guys that
• 7:57
  Speaker 4: they want me to. You know, it's not it in
• 8:00
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's free of charge. I won't, I won't.
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: I won't charge nobody. I'll just you know, sure how
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: to do it. You're gonna drop it, no more guarantee
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: We need the AJAX guest instructor. And so kind of
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: on a couple of those motivational speeches he had, he
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: had ready you.
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: Know, I'm ready.
• 8:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, but I will tell you this though I
• 8:18
  Speaker 4: will tell you this, I would only say there was
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: probably a couple of times in my career where a
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: ball went up in the sun and it stayed in
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: the sun, and there's nothing you can do about that.
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: But the majority of the time, like the times that
• 8:31
  Speaker 4: I happened, I remember it happened in Seattle and uh
• 8:34
  Speaker 4: Felix was pitching a great game, right, it was a
• 8:37
  Speaker 4: it was a it was a low score, a low
• 8:40
  Speaker 4: scoring game, and somebody I don't know, drove one to
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: the wall and I'm running back and I'm like, I
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: had to kind of I knew where the direction it
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: was going, but it was not coming out of the sun.
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: But I could.
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: I just had a feel for where it was at
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: and I stuck my glove up and I think it
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: hit my forearm.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: It just happened.
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: Sometimes that ball gets in the sun and there is
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: no way, especially if you're running back, that you can
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: you know, create that angle. A lot of those times
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: it just pop ups where you can you have time
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: to create an angle, but running back, at least in
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: that situation, it's stayed in the sun. But you know
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: those balls hit up in the air where you have
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: time to get to the side and create that angle
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: for the ball to come out of the sun.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: You're gonna catch it. You know, you catch it every time.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: So what's a what's a teammate or a coaches reaction
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: when uh, you know it's one of those sunballs. You
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: know that you drop or you know, let drop or whatever,
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: like or or Pitcher maybe someone with the intensity of Erlander, like,
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: how do how do how do guys react when a
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: simple play is not made because of something like the sun.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: So like sometimes I think people will be like, well,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: you know, stuff happens, it's the sun, but you're explaining
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: it in a way that like it still should a
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: play most of the time still should be made. So
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: what's the reaction you know, coaches, players, pitchers, whatever, when
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: when a play like that happens.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't know what you know, the
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: coaches and and all, you know what their reaction is.
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: But you know, for for myself, and you know, I'm
• 10:11
  Speaker 4: sure it's it's.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's frustrating.
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: For a picture, who's up there, you know, working his
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: butt off in a and a pop fly gets hit
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: that's you know, like an easy pop fly and it
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: gets dropped.
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: You know, that can change the ball game. So I'm
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: sure it's frustrating.
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: But for me it's an outfielder when I see it,
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, he probably hasn't been taught, you know,
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: how to how to.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: You know, defend that, you know, the right way.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: So you know, it's frustrating, but it's something that I
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: think can it could be quickly fixed, and you know
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: it's it's I wouldn't be I'm not I'm not mad, right,
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be mad. It's the ball is in the sun,
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: and if you don't know how to you know, the
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: correct way to defend that, you're gonna drop it.
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna see it. So it's frustrating, man.
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: I know, as a picture, if you're up there pitching
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: and a pop flags hit, you know, these are big
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: league outfielders. You expected to catch it. So it's just
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: take a little work, a little work and you know,
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: a little tweaking and be no problem.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: Ever again, well, you know, because it's Max Clark, it
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: becomes like a bigger deal. And actually, like twenty four
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: hours later, it kind of circulate on social media again
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: with people and some ex players kind of complaining about
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: and we have a picture of Max up on our
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: screen here for our YouTube audience. Just like the way
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: he presents himself kind of gives off a little bit
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: more of an ability to criticize when something like this happens.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: And in the game he was wearing eye black too,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: and this picture obviously he's not wearing eye black, but
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: you know the chains, you know, the exaggerate you know,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: the eye black that goes all the way down the cheeks.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: You know, fancy sunglasses, like the tattoos. There are just
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: people that are not gonna like Max Clark because of
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: all these things. So I'm curious as again BoMor player
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: and a guy who's you know, bringing up a kid
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: in the game, Like, what's your kind of take on
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: you know, guys like Max Clark, you know, living like
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: this when they haven't, you know, haven't he made it
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: to the big leagues yet?
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: Like, what do you how do you take take away
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: from that?
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: To me, it doesn't matter if he had no chains on,
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: no EyeBlack, if he had on reading glasses. Would it
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: make a difference then? Would it be like, oh, it's acceptable,
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: it's fine that he missed it, you know what I mean?
• 12:32
  Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, is he missed
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: the fly ball? Right, like you know, he you missed
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: the fly ball? What he's wearing? My man is slugged up.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: That's fine. That doesn't bother me, you know what I mean.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: What bothers me is I think how or I wouldn't
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: even say what bothers me? What I would want to
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: see is how you respond to it. I don't care
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: about all the extra stuff.
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're in a day and age. Come on, now, like,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: this is what it is.
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: You know, the kids, the boys is out there wearing
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: ninety seven chains, they got tattoos from the top of
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: their head to the bottom of they toes. That's just
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: what that's where we at right. I don't care about
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. What I do care about is how
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: you respond to it. If you out there that next
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: day with the pitching machine at home plate line directly
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: up into that sun and you working on that, that's
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: what I want to see. That's what I care more about.
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: Whether all that stuff you're wearing and your tattoos and
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: the chains, that's you man, that's your body.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: Do what you please with it.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: But what I would like to see is you out
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: there working on that and making sure that doesn't happen
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: in a big game.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: And for the record, you know it sounds like Max
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Corey responded to this well, he said good stuff. Afterward,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: he said, hey, there's really no excuse. I dropped it,
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: or I dropped.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Both those balls.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: So I've caught a thousand sun balls in my life.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. He was out there on the
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: backfield the next day hitting sounds like he had a
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: good back and forth with Kenley Jansen. He ripped a
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: single off of him, Jansen called him back into the box,
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: struck him out on three pitches. Clark later homered, you know,
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: in that live BP session opposite field, left on left shot.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: I believe so, Like you know, he was all right
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: the next day. It's not like he lost his ability
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: to hit. We've kind of talked about this since the
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: day Max CLOrk was drafted. Right when you were outward
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: and you present yourself a certain way, you invite criticism.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: To Austin's point, like, there are going to be a
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: lot of people who just are judge him unfairly because
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, if you were wearing reading glasses, that
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't make it any more acceptable to drop a fly ball.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But when Max CLOrk doesn't perform, or if he gets
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: to the major leagues and he's not a star player,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: you know, people fans, maybe even people in the organization
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: might not like it as much, might not like some
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: of the extra stuff as much. That's always going to
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: be a conversation with him. And as I've said before,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: like getting to know him just a little bit. I
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: don't know him well, but the times i've been around him, Like,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I think he's equipped to handle it. I think he's
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: actually serious. I think he loves the game. I think
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: he is comfortable in his own skin and is going
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: to dress how he dresses and do all that stuff.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: He kind of sees it as a way of promoting
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: the game, whether it's the social media and reaching out
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: to kids, or you know, maybe it's the tats and
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: the sunglasses. Like, look, we all we all talk about
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: baseball needs to market people better. A few people are
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: as marketable right now as Max Clark. There's gonna be
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: criticism that comes with the territory though, And it is
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: interesting how quickly we've already seen it. When he makes
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes in a spring training game, then
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: you get people on MLB Network going off on them,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: and then social media you start hearing more of those comments.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: So this is the first of probably a lot of
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: times we're going to go through this conversation.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Now, you said, Cody is part of it is it
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: comes with the territory. You know, you've gotta you know,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: you put a target on your back. Whether you want
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: that or not. It's just it's just what it is,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: you know. But like you said, you said, he's you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: equipped to handle it, and he's saying all the right things,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: and you know hopefully that that distraction doesn't, you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: take away from what he's able to provide and bring
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: to a team. So I know, I know the kid
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: can go. He got he got skills, man. So it's
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: just all going to be about, you know, taking care
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: of business on the field. And you know, people are
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: gonna say what they're gonna say, no matter what. It
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter what you wear or what you're doing, but
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: you know, they just want to see you come out
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: and perform and help a team win at the end
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: of the day.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Max Clark is must see TV, but he's even
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: better to see in person. And if you want to
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: see Max Clark or the Detroit Tigers in person, you
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: gotta get hooked up with our sponsor, seat Geek want
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: to give them a shout out. With over thirty five
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: million downloads, seat geek is the number one rated ticketing app.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: There are more than seventy thousand events listed on seat geek,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: including concert, sports, festivals, and more. We got Baseball, We
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: got World Baseball Classic. Around the corner. NBA season is
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: in full swing. World Cup tickets are already there. And
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: guess what this whole thing called March madness. Yeah, that's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: right around the corner. There's always an intensity to watch
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: in these games, which is why I always go to
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: seat geek to find the best deals. I love using
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: seat geek, and one of the things I love about
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: them is they always have your back. Each ticket is
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: rated on a scale of one to ten, so you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: know you're getting a good deal, So look for the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: green dots.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Green means good, red means bad.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Plus every ticket is backed by their buyer guarantee. And
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: of course I have a code for you guys if
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you use code Territory ten for ten percent off your
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: next set of tickets on seat geek. That's ten percent
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: off any tickets with promo code Territory ten. Make sure
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you click the link in the description to download the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: app and have the code automatically added to your account
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: so you can use it later.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Thank you, seat Geek.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: All right, really good discussion there, and I just want
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to continue sort of just like really niche baseball things
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because if you know spring train, that's what that's what
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: this is all about. And and Austin on our last episode,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we did a mail bag and we had a question
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: about like what constitutes a good at bat and and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: something that gets It's one of those phrases that gets
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: thrown out a lot. And I feel like everybody kind
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: of has their own definition of what a good at
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: bat is, and uh, you know, some complex, some simple.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I cited our boy Andy Dirks, who said, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: good at bat. You know you don't have to worry
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: about the curveball. If you hit the fastball before the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: curveball comes, you know, that's like good at bat. You
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: had your pitch and and and you and you did,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you know, did your job. Sometimes it's working the count
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: like all these things. So your definition, Austin, of a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: good at bat is.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: What I mean, it can be. It could be many
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: things like you just mentioned, right.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think it just fits in one, you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: category or just it's it's kind of like an umbrella,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: and it can mean a lot of things like going
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: up there, seeing the first pitch and hitting the line
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: drive the right field. Is that a quality at bat?
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, maybe to some people. You just you know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: saw the first pitch and you got on it, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: that's that's what you want.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: To do. You want to hit good pitches.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: But I also don't necessarily think a quality are bad
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: at bat means that, you know, since you didn't get
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: a hit, that wasn't a quality at bat, Like it
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: didn't result in quality at bat doesn't always result in
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: a hit.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: If you go up there and see.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Twelve pitches, thirteen pitches, and you strike out, I'm gonna
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: say that's the quality at bat because of you work
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the count, you worked the picture. You probably took some
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: good pitches to hit and foil them off, some tough
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: pitches and fil them off, probably laid off some really
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: close pitches.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I think that's equality at bad.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So I don't always think equality at bat necessarily results
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: in a hit.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: But also I.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Think that swinging at strikes you know, and again doesn't
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: always result in a quality at bat. But I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: a quality at bat is swinging at pitches in the
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: zone and taking pitches, you know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: For balls that are balls, and not swinging at them.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's a quality at bat because I think
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that for me, I used to get in my head
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: about what a quality at bat was, and I would
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: get mad when I would go up there and see
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: maybe eight nine ten pitches and strike out, and I'm like, ah, man,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: But you know, I was sat down and told Hey,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: that was a quality at bat though, man, Like you
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: worked the count like you were supposed to do. You
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: fouled all some really tough pitches. Wasn't really pitching you
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: anything over the middle of the plate. You was throwing
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: your things on the corner. You were fouling them off.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: You took some tough sliders, you know, off the plate
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: that guys have been swinging at.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: So once you put all.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: That stuff back in perspective, you realize, you know, there
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: are many definitions of what a quality at bat is.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: And you know, I like the idea of quality at
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: bat not always resulting in a hit. I think it's
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: you know, stam within a zone, swinging at strike, swinging
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: a good pitch to hit and uh, you know, making
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: really good contact. I also think that you go up
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: there and you you know, see two pitches and you
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: square something up, you make solid contact. I say that's
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: a pretty good quality at bat right there.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And I think we probably and Cody when we talked
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: about it, we probably didn't like give enough weight.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: To like the situation aspect of it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: H and and of course, you know, with Austin on here,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of like the leadoff guy, you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the you know, the setup man to get on for
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the for the sluggers. And I would probably wager that
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you know, different guys probably, I mean, I would not
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: be surprised if AJ had this and and staff had this. Like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: different guys probably have different definitions of what a you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: good at bat would be given their skill set and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: their you know, situations and kind of what they're in
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the lineup to do.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe, So I always think that's an interesting argument. Like
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: there's the idea, you know, the leadoff man, you should
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: see several pitches. But if you're the leadoff man and
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you get a pitch down the middle and you rip
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it first pitch like that, you know, that's what you
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: should be there to do in in my opinion, So
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: it is interesting just because they're you know, there's a
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: runner on third, you are you're probably trying to get
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the ball in the air. You want to play the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: game a little bit, But should you really change your approach,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: especially early in that at that I think that's a
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: little of a debate, especially one in the last five
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to ten years of baseball where guys are trying to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: get their ace wings off all the time, no matter what.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think we're starting to see that correct a little
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: bit right back toward contact, back toward let's move a
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: guy over, let's hit a sack fly. And so that's
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff I was talking about. I think
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: some of how this gets defined in the major leagues
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: is a little bit different than how it might get
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: defined at your local high school or how you were
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: teaching your kids to play. It's kind of a fine
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: line I think between like when do you adjust for
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: situations and when are you just trying to have a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: good plan and execute it regardless of what else is
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: going on in the game.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I agree with both of y'all saying, And you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: to your point, like the situation is gonna dictate you
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: know how you you approach that situation right, like if
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: there's a runner on third, or like just for instance,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: if I'm not even feeling good, if I'm o for
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: my last ten or eleven.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know what is my plan now?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Is it to go up here and you know, try
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to get my swing off early in account or you
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: know what I'm not feeling good, man, I might have
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to sacrifice a few more at bats, you know, for
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the greater good of the team, for the you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: let these guys see this dirty splitter that this guy's
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: throwing thousand tough pitches off.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: That's to me, that's a quality at bat for the team.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: And I've been in that situation where I'm like, yo,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not feeling it, but I know I can be
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: at pest a little bit, and I consider that a
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: quality at bat, even.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Though the result wasn't a hit or a walk.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I was like, man, I saw ten twelve pitches, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: may just do work.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: I made him sweat.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Now we got you know, we got some sluggers coming
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: up behind me who've seen all the pitches. They seen
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: what he's throwing with two strikes, they see what he's
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: trying to work the corners. Me relaying that information to
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the guys behind me that I considered out of quality
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: at bat.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good information. And I think I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like that you brought up like conversations with you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: other players, because that tells me that, you know, you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: guys were working together to try to, you know, get
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to this picture or whatever. Not everybody wasn't just playing
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: their own game. You're playing the game together, you see
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And and and you know, and I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: wanted to kind of pivot to like Cody and I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: have joked a couple of times that this is a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: like boring spring training for the Tigers because they're good.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: We anticipate them being good.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: But and there's not really like a whole lot of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you know, roster battles per se or whatever, because the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: fan base and I'm sure the media too, it's like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: get us the opening day, like like let let's let's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: let's get this thing. Let's get this thing going and humming,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: because this is probably the most anticipated season that the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Tigers have had in a long time. And the JV
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: move is a part of that, The Fromber move is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a part of that. The School Bowl drama stuff is
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: definitely a part of that. So I was, I'm curious, Austin,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: as you look back to teams that you know you
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: shared with Justin Berlander, like do you remember a season
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that like leading up to it and even like in
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: spring training, like it felt like the most hyped, the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: most important, like that like this is really like our
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: shot did any of those years stick out or or
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: or as a player.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Did you just not even allow yourself to kind of
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: think like that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: No, I think the personnel that you have on the
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: team is is going to dictate, like did the hype,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the expectations that are set you know, the the core guys,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the you know, the high paying guys, those guys are
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: are gonna set that standard, set that bar very high.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: And I felt like when I first came over there
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: that that standard was already set pretty high. But the
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: times that I was there, I would say the twenty
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: twelve season was you know, the most anticipated, the most
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: you know hype, the you know, the expectations were set high,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: you know, getting Prints, getting Tory, you know, I think
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: that kind of solidified us as like a high power offense.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: And then you know, obviously what the pitching staff was.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: You know, all eyes were on you know, our pitcher staff.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: You know, Verlander and Shures are But it was really
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: cool to kind of see that dynamic between those guys
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: because you know, Verlander go out and put a pitcher
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: six or seven inning shutty, and then Shuz would be like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: well I'm gonna top that. And then it's like you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: you got Rick young Rick coming up, like, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: trying to make a name for itself, kind of stepping
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: out of the shadow. And then we had Sanchez and
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: we had Fist Smiley and it was just really cool
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: to see those guys have like a little competition amongst
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: each other. So and then we had a you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: a solid, a solid bullpen. But you know that that
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: team for me, like was on paper one of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you know, best teams to you know, suit up for
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the for the d and no disrespect to the teams
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: obviously before us, right, we know there was a lot
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: of great teams, but that that twenty twelve season, I mean,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I think that we all kind of we we we knew,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: we knew, we talked about it a little bit, but
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: it was just the way we went about our business man,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: down to when we would get on a plane, we
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: was all decked out in fresh you know.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Fitted suits.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It's just we just had this look and we just
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: had this attitude about ourselves, man, that like when we
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: come in, we're coming in to take care of business.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: And it was fun, man, it was fun to be
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a part of you know, that square.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, for me, that that was probably the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: team I've felt with the most high, highest expectations.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Well, Cody, is there any I mean, do we have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a glimpse yet at the like how the pitching staff
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: is MESHI? I know we've talked about chess. You know
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that's an example Austin uh JV playing chess in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse with the with the young Troy young
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Troy Melton as sort of like an icebreaker and all
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean know, school Ball is an intense guy.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: He doesn't lack intensity. Uh, they don't really know much
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I guess about Fromber yet, But is there I guess
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: like there's gotta be some glimpses, Cody of like you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: think you think, like, okay, this does feel like a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: team that is serious.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Have you been able to absorb some of that stuff
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: when you were in Lakeland?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the whole thing had a serious vibe.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Like I talked about it, guys that the energy in
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: that room is a little different than I felt it before,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: and quite frankly very different. Because they got Fromber and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they got JV. It's kind of been interesting to think,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: like what if they hadn't have made a move like that?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And they entered the season like we thought they were
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: going to enter the season, which was like no major moves.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the energy might it would have been.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: It might not have been that good, because where it
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: is right now, it's really good and all the players
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: are saying that that that that energizes them. Riley Green said,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we went out and got some dogs and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: they did, and I think that made a difference. We've
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: talked about it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Verlander.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Man, he's he's been in good spirits playing chess with
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Trey Melton, who is not throwing due to general arm soreness.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: That's not what you want to hear. We'll update more
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: on that once we know a little bit more. You know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: he's been talking with Schoobl about I think some investments.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: You know now that now that Schoobl's got big money,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Schoobl and Mize, you know they got the coffee machine
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: between their lockers, the espresso machine. You guys have probably
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: seen that. If you're on social media. It will be
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: interesting to see how fromber Mesh is a little bit
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: more see how Jack miss with those guys. But yeah, man,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: my takeaway from Tiger's camp was like this is this
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: is business this year, like this is legit, and guys
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: are feeling really optimistic.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That's what you like to hear. That's what you like
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to hear. I mean, it's uh, you know it. You
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: know the I think the most well run organizations don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: have success by accident, right, and so like if you
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: if you want to be a sustained winner, like this
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: is the next step. I'm always looking for the next
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: steps for these teams. All right, he made the playoffs
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a right, now, prove that wasn't a fluke. Now, the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: next step would probably be like a division championship and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: obviously break through the glass ceiling of the division series.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: But we'll have time to get to all that. As
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of right now, the vibes are good, Austin.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Do you miss it at all? You miss spring training
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: at all?
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Man, let me tell you something, dude.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: It's crazy because up until I think a few days ago,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I was just scrolling on you know, just scrolling and
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: just brain rot, scrolling through that through the you know
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: this brain rot, just scrolling and it was the most
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: simplest thing that I saw that the outfielders were doing,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: where they didn't even have a glove, and I forgot
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: who was throwing just balls over the left shoulder, over
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the right shoulder, bro, and I got like chill bumps.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: It was crazy because I was like, like something that
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: simple that I was just like, I missed it, man.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I missed it to where I was like, hey, bro,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: come on, go get you go, go get go, get
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: the ball.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just about to just talk, you know, balls.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Up, cause it's just like I don't know, man, It's
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: just like you knew what you were preparing for. You know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: you knew what you were preparing for, and you know
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: you took those drills seriously and you I don't want
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: to say I took it for granted, but you know
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I missed that man. I missed, you know, being with
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the boys out there and we're all, you know, just
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: cutting up and doing stuff like that. So yeah, man,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: to to your you know, to answer your question, Yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I miss it, man. That was that was fun. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: loved I loved the prepperration. You know the you mentioned boring.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Boring is good. Boring is good. You know, it doesn't
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: always have to be all this craziness, you know what
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I mean? Like, boring is good because when you get
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: good at the boring stuff and you can do that
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: type of stuff and your sleep, that's when you know
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you you headed there.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Like if we're all trying to look for these new
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: things and it's like, nah, man, get really good at
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the boring stuff, because that's that's what it's gonna be.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what it's going to be in the game.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: The balls over the shoulders, that the stuff that you
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: get tired of doing. You need to be able to
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: do that type of stuff in your sleep. So back
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: to your point, Sorry, I got see where I went.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: See how you got me, bro I told you see
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: how you got me. You got me fired up? But like, no,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: yes I do, man, I do miss it. I miss
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: you know, being with the Fellas.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: It just competing, that's that's the main thing. So I
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: find I'm finding other ways to compete right now.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Inspirational as always a Jacks. There's a couple there's a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: speeches in there that I was like, man, I have
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to just like cut cut it up and send it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you know to anybody who.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Right now man started it's cold here.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Destroy Yeah, I need to I play on Wednesday nights.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I need to talk to Austin, like on Tuesday nights
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: instead of Thursday afternoons.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I get you going, bro, I get you going, Man,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: shoot me a text or something. I'll see you.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's good. I'm just gonna send something.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, clap clap hands or something. Let's go,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: come on, like, let's get it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: It need a zero, all right, fellas. That was a
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: lot of fun.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I liked.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I liked the pace of this one where we just
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: kind of talked about some nitty gritty stuff.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I hope you guys enjoyed it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: If you did and you haven't already, subscribe on YouTube, Apple, Spotify,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Instagram at Cody Steven Haagen, I'm here Underscore s decually.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: At Tiger Territory.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Underscore is the We appreciate all of you, so for Ajax,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Chee Stepenhagen, I'm Karen Steckley.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Everybody, have a great day.