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- 0:00Welcome to reform thinking. I am.
- 0:03I'm just so thrilled you are here with us today.
- 0:05You sitting there listening. You're stepping into an
- 0:08intellectual space as a Co learner with us.
- 0:11Yeah, we are so glad you're joining us for this.
- 0:13Today we are taking a deep dive into the absolute deep end of
- 0:17the theological pool. I mean, usually when we try to
- 0:20evaluate why someone did something, we look for a clean,
- 0:24visible motive. Right, like an X-ray of human
- 0:26behavior. Yeah, precisely.
- 0:28You see a person hand money to a charity and the motive looks
- 0:31obvious. We just point and say, well,
- 0:33there it is. Generosity.
- 0:34We like things to be visible, you know, to be categorized into
- 0:37neat little boxes. We really do.
- 0:38We like clean answers. But then you step into the world
- 0:41of theology and specifically the motivations of the divine, and
- 0:44suddenly that X-ray machine just it stops working.
- 0:47We are looking at a landscape of motives that is honestly
- 0:50incredibly murky to our human minds.
- 0:53It is the absolute definition of diagnostic Muddy Waters.
- 0:56I mean, when you try to assign human psychological motivations
- 0:59to an infinite being, the categories just breakdown
- 1:02entirely. Which brings us to our mission.
- 1:05For this deep dive, we are going to examine excerpts from
- 1:08Jonathan Edwards's philosophical and theological treatise, A
- 1:12Dissertation concerning the End for Which God Created the World.
- 1:16That is quite the title. It is, and specifically, we are
- 1:19going to look closely at how Edwards systematically
- 1:21dismantles 4 major logical objections to the premise that
- 1:25God's supreme goal in creation was his own glory.
- 1:29And that is a huge concept to tackle.
- 1:30It really is. Now, as hosts who hold to
- 1:33Protestant Reformed theology and who adhere to the Westminster
- 1:36Confession, we usually start with a very familiar baseline.
- 1:39The very first question of the Shorty Catechism asks what the
- 1:42chief end of man is. Right.
- 1:44And the answer is to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever.
- 1:48That is standard for us. Yeah, that is our baseline.
- 1:51But today we are going to flip the script entirely.
- 1:54What happens when we assert that God's chief end is also to
- 1:58glorify God? It is a question that makes a
- 2:00lot of people uncomfortable, honestly.
- 2:02It does, and I want to be clear here.
- 2:04We are going to impartially report Edwards's defense of this
- 2:07concept based strictly on the text provided.
- 2:09We're just looking at the pure logic he uses to defend this
- 2:12idea. So let us unpack this first
- 2:14major hurdle, which we will call the paradox of of a perfect
- 2:18being creating anything. That is a massive hurdle to
- 2:22start with. The core objection to Edwards
- 2:24addresses is this. If God is entirely self
- 2:27existent, independent, and perfectly happy from all
- 2:30eternity, why create a world at all?
- 2:33Right, because creating implies a lack or maybe a desire for
- 2:37something in the future, which seems to contradict absolute
- 2:40self-sufficiency. Spot on.
- 2:42That is the core of the objection.
- 2:44Let me let me frame this with an analogy so we can really see the
- 2:47friction here. Think about human activity.
- 2:50If a person is completely satisfied, full, warm and lacks
- 2:53absolutely nothing, they sit perfectly still.
- 2:55Yeah, they don't move. Right activity in our human
- 2:57experience, usually stems from wanting to fix a deficit or
- 3:00improve a situation. You get up from the couch
- 3:02because you are thirsty or bored or lonely.
- 3:05You take action because your current state is lacking
- 3:07something. That makes total sense from a
- 3:09human perspective. So the objector asks a very fair
- 3:12question. Does the act of creation imply
- 3:15God was lonely or incomplete? Was he sitting in eternity past
- 3:19feeling a deficit and thinking, well, I need to make humans so I
- 3:23can have some company? That is a highly intuitive
- 3:25objection. I mean, it makes sense based on
- 3:27our experience of reality, but Edwards handles it by exposing A
- 3:32flaw and how we define divine happiness.
- 3:34OK, how does he do that? He says many people have wrong
- 3:37notions of God's happiness resulting from his
- 3:39self-sufficiency. Edwards uses a magnificent
- 3:42visual here, comparing God to the sun and the creature to a
- 3:46jewel. Let us pause there and really
- 3:48visualize that we have the sun radiating light and we have a
- 3:51jewel. What is the interaction between
- 3:53those two things according to Edward?
- 3:55Well, when the sun shines its light onto a jewel, the sun
- 3:58receives absolutely no brightness back from that stone.
- 4:00The jewel has no internal light source, you know.
- 4:03It only reflects what the sun freely gives to it.
- 4:05OK, I am pracking with that. So Edwards uses this to explain
- 4:09that God's joy in creation isn't some new novel happiness that he
- 4:13extracts from the creature. He is not mining us for joy he
- 4:16previously lacked. Oh wow, mining us for joy, That
- 4:21is a great way to put it. Yeah, instead his delight in
- 4:24creation is a delight in the overflow and the communication
- 4:27of his own existing goodness. It is an expression of what he
- 4:30already possesses perfectly. I want to make sure I am
- 4:33grasping the physics of this analogy.
- 4:35If the jewel is in a dark room, it is just a dull rock.
- 4:39It contributes nothing to the room.
- 4:41Right, it is completely dark. But when you bring it out into
- 4:43the sunlight, it sparkles. But the sparkle is just the
- 4:46sun's light bouncing back. So Edwards is saying that when
- 4:49God looks at creation and feels joy, he is not receiving a new
- 4:53substance from us. He is enjoying the reflection of
- 4:55his own light. Precisely when God delights in a
- 4:58creature's holiness or happiness, he is truly
- 5:00delighting in his own beauty being reflected back.
- 5:04It is the joy of a fountain overflowing, not the desperation
- 5:07of an empty cup seeking to be filled.
- 5:09That is a. Huge distinction.
- 5:10It is. I mean, the sun does not shine
- 5:13because it needs the jewel. The sun shines because it is the
- 5:16nature of the sun to radiate light.
- 5:18God creates because it is the nature of his infinite goodness
- 5:22to overflow, not because he has an empty space in his psychology
- 5:26that needs filling. OK, the distinction between
- 5:28extracting joy and overflowing joy clears up a lot of the
- 5:31confusion. But I know that for you
- 5:34listening right now, you might still feel a nagging sense that
- 5:37assigning any motive to God makes him dependent on us.
- 5:41And that is a very natural concern to have.
- 5:43And this is where Edwards sets a fascinating logical trap for the
- 5:46person making the objection. The objector says that if God
- 5:50creates for his own glory, it means he lacked something and
- 5:52needed to achieve a future goal. And that ruins his absolute
- 5:55perfection, right? But Edwards turns this argument
- 5:58entirely upside down. He really does.
- 6:00He points out that if you argue God created the world for the
- 6:03creatures happiness instead his own glory, you run head first
- 6:07into the exact same problem. Wait, how so?
- 6:10Well, you are still claiming that God had a future goal,
- 6:13meaning the happiness of the creature that he wanted to
- 6:14achieve. Oh, I see.
- 6:16Let me stop and put this in modern terms.
- 6:18A lot of people today argue that God's primary motive for
- 6:21creation is altruism. They say God created us simply
- 6:25because he loves us and wanted us to experience a good life.
- 6:29Yeah, you hear that argument all the time.
- 6:31They think this solves the problem of God sounding needy or
- 6:34self-centered. But Edwards is saying that this
- 6:37altruistic argument still requires God to look into the
- 6:40future, see a state of affairs that does not yet exist, our
- 6:44happiness and desire it. Yes, that is the trap.
- 6:47Therefore, any motive you assigned a creation, no matter
- 6:50how altruistic you think it sounds, faces this exact same
- 6:54objection regarding God seeking something future.
- 6:57That is wild. Edwards demonstrates that if God
- 6:59has a will at all regarding creation, he must desire an
- 7:02outcome, and the objector's logic would make any desired
- 7:05outcome a sign of weakness. So the objector is basically
- 7:08arguing against God having any will at all.
- 7:11Exactly. Or rather, that is precisely the
- 7:13logical end of their argument. If desiring a future outcome
- 7:17means you are incomplete, that an altruistic God who desires
- 7:22the future happiness of humans is just as incomplete as a God
- 7:25who desires his own glory. It is a philosophical checkmate.
- 7:29Edwards forces the objector to realize their critique applies
- 7:33equally to their own alternative theories.
- 7:36It is brilliant. He traps the objector in their
- 7:38own premise, but then Edwards goes a step further.
- 7:41Of course he does. He argues that making the
- 7:43creature the supreme goal would actually make God dependent on
- 7:46the creature, which is far worse for the concept of divine
- 7:49independence. You mentioned something in our
- 7:51notes about an efficient cause and a final goal.
- 7:54Hold on, let us define our terms for a second.
- 7:56When Edwards says efficient cause, is he just talking about
- 7:59the physical act of making something like a Carpenter
- 8:01swinging a hammer? Basically, yes.
- 8:03In philosophical terms, the efficient cause is the agent
- 8:06that brings something into being.
- 8:07It's the active force. The final goal or final cause is
- 8:11the reason or purpose for which the thing was made.
- 8:14OK, so the maker and the reason for making.
- 8:17Right. And Edwards points out a basic
- 8:19rule of logic. An efficient cause depends on
- 8:22its final goal for its success. Give me a concrete example of
- 8:25that dependency. Sure.
- 8:27If you build a house to find shelter, you're the efficient
- 8:30cause and the shelter is the final goal.
- 8:33Your success as a builder deends entirely on that shelter
- 8:36existing and functioning properly.
- 8:38O If the roof leaks, you have failed.
- 8:41Exactly that. Your fulfillment relies on the
- 8:43outcome. If God's highest final goal is
- 8:46the creature, then God's success, his fulfillment,
- 8:49becomes dependent on the creature.
- 8:51He would be relying on something outside of himself to achieve
- 8:54his primary objective. That paints a very fragile
- 8:57picture of the divine If our happiness is His ultimate goal
- 9:01or sorry, if our happiness is his highest goal and we are
- 9:03miserable, then God is frustrated.
- 9:05His success is held hostage by our choices in our emotional
- 9:08state. Yes, that is the unavoidable
- 9:10conclusion. By making Himself the end, God
- 9:12remains entirely self-contained and independent.
- 9:16He goes out of himself in creation, but His desires and
- 9:19pursuits originate from and terminate in Himself.
- 9:22So he is never waiting on us to validate his efforts.
- 9:25Right. He relies on no one but himself
- 9:28in the beginning or the end of any of his operations.
- 9:31He is the Alpha and the Omega of the action.
- 9:33OK, I am tracking with the logic here.
- 9:35God creating for his own glory preserves his absolute
- 9:39independence, and it avoids making him rely on fragile
- 9:42creatures for his own fulfillment.
- 9:44Which is a much more robust view of God.
- 9:47It is, but that leads us directly to an incredibly
- 9:50uncomfortable question. This brings us to the second
- 9:53major objection Edwards tackles the charge of cosmic
- 9:57selfishness. Yes, the selfishness objection.
- 10:00Right. Even if we accept the logic that
- 10:02God must be his own end to remain independent, doesn't
- 10:06making everything about himself make God sound incredibly
- 10:09selfish? It is the most common emotional
- 10:11reaction to this theology for sure.
- 10:12I mean in human terms, selfishness, making your own
- 10:15private interests the governing aim of everything you do is
- 10:18viewed as base, mean and contemptible.
- 10:21Right. If we think about everyday life,
- 10:23we all know the person at a dinner party who turns every
- 10:25single conversation back to themselves.
- 10:27Oh, we all know that person. If you talk about your vacation,
- 10:29they talk about a better vacation they took.
- 10:31If you mention a problem at work, they immediately interrupt
- 10:34to talk about how much harder their job is.
- 10:36We find that behavior repulsive. We view it as a massive
- 10:40character flaw. We do.
- 10:42It is exhausting to be around. So if you are listening to this
- 10:45right now, you might be thinking this sounds like cosmic
- 10:48narcissism. I know that is where my mind
- 10:50immediately went. Why does Edwards argue that this
- 10:53exact same trait, which we despise in humans, is noble and
- 10:58fitting in the divine? To answer that, Edwards forces
- 11:01us to step back from our emotional distaste and
- 11:04mathematically and philosophically define what
- 11:06selfishness actually is. His first answer deals with the
- 11:10concept of proportion. Let us break down the math on
- 11:13that. How does proportion change the
- 11:15definition of selfishness? Well, think about your dinner
- 11:17party guest. In a created being, preferring
- 11:20oneself above everyone else is vicious because a single person
- 11:24is statistically insignificant compared to the whole of
- 11:27society. OK, that makes sense.
- 11:28It is a mathematical and moral error.
- 11:30In valuing, you are treating a tiny fraction as if it were the
- 11:33whole number. So the human ego is basically a
- 11:36math error. I am 1 of 8 billion people on
- 11:39the planet. For me to act like my comfort is
- 11:42more valuable than the comfort of the other 7 billion combined
- 11:45is objectively false. It is a delusion.
- 11:48That is exactly the point. However, because God is
- 11:52infinite, He is by definition the most valuable being in
- 11:55existence. All other beings combined are as
- 11:58nothing compared to Him. The scales completely.
- 12:01Different, completely different. Because God possesses an all
- 12:04comprehending understanding, He sees reality perfectly.
- 12:08For God to value anything above himself would be to believe a
- 12:10lie against the true proportion of reality.
- 12:13He values himself infinitely more than His creatures because
- 12:17He is infinitely more valuable. I am trying to wrap my head
- 12:19around a being whose self obsession is actually just
- 12:22perfect honesty. We hate human selfishness
- 12:24because it is a delusion of grandeur.
- 12:26Right. A human being is pretending to
- 12:28be the center of the universe when they are clearly not.
- 12:30But God actually is the center, so his self regard is based on
- 12:34reality. It is not arrogance, it is pure,
- 12:37unadulterated truth. If God were to value the
- 12:41universe above Himself, He would be committing idolatry.
- 12:44Wow, idolatry. Yes, because he would be
- 12:49assigning supreme value to something that does not possess
- 12:51supreme value. I hear what you were saying
- 12:54about the math and the logic is sound, but I am still struggling
- 12:58to get past the emotional friction here.
- 13:00It is a lot to process. Even if he rightfully values
- 13:03himself because he's infinite, human experience tells us that
- 13:06when someone is self interested, someone else usually loses.
- 13:10If I take the biggest piece of pie because I value my appetite
- 13:13above yours, you get a smaller piece.
- 13:15Our interests clash. How does Edwards resolve this
- 13:18perceived conflict of interest between God and the creature?
- 13:21Edwards uses an anatomical analogy to show why a conflict
- 13:24of interest is impossible here. In human society, a private
- 13:28citizen's interest might clash with the public welfare.
- 13:31If I hoard resources, the town starves.
- 13:33Right, limited resources create conflict.
- 13:35But God is not a private citizen in the universe.
- 13:37He is the Author, the fountain, and the head of the entire
- 13:40system. Let us flesh out that anatomy
- 13:42analogy. What are the parts of the body
- 13:44representing here? Edwards argues it is absolutely
- 13:47absurd to think the welfare of the head or the heart could ever
- 13:51oppose the welfare of the body. If the heart demands all the
- 13:54oxygenated blood first before sending it to the fingertips,
- 13:58the fingertips might feel slighted.
- 14:00They might feel like they are getting the short end of the
- 14:02stick. But if the heart doesn't take
- 14:03what it needs to function, the entire body dies.
- 14:06So it is like an autoimmune disease if the parts attack the
- 14:10head. If I am the hand and God is the
- 14:12head, the head deciding to preserve its own functioning
- 14:16isn't being cool to the hand because the hand relies entirely
- 14:19on the head survival to animate it.
- 14:21Yes, God is omniscient. He could never falsely apprehend
- 14:25his own interest as being inconsistent with the good of
- 14:28the whole system he designed. Because his well-being is the
- 14:31foundation of the system's well-being.
- 14:33Spot on. His self-interest is the
- 14:35preservation of the entire system, and this leads directly
- 14:38into his third answer regarding selfishness, which is that God
- 14:41seeking himself is the actual mechanism that causes him to
- 14:44seek the good of the creature. Wait, his self regard causes him
- 14:48to seek our good? That feels paradoxical.
- 14:51Walk me through that mechanism. His delight in his own internal
- 14:54glory is precisely what causes him to emanate that glory
- 14:58outwardly. Edward says that a person who
- 15:00truly loves the bright light of the sun will want that light
- 15:03diffused and shared, not locked in a box.
- 15:06So because God loves his own goodness so much, he refuses to
- 15:10keep it contained. He wants it spread across a
- 15:12canvas. God self regard is a disposition
- 15:15to communicate himself, meaning his so-called selfishness is the
- 15:20literal fountain of all cosmic generosity.
- 15:22That is a fascinating way to look at.
- 15:24It if he did not love his own glory, he would have no
- 15:27motivation to share it with a created order.
- 15:29OK, I can accept that God's self regard is based on mathematical
- 15:32reality and that it actually fuels his generosity rather than
- 15:36competing with it. But if he is so self-sufficient
- 15:39and infinitely generous, why does he care if we notice?
- 15:41And that is the next logical jump.
- 15:43Right, this brings us to the third objection.
- 15:45Isn't seeking applause from lesser beings beneath him?
- 15:47The objector asks why a supreme being would stoop to desire the
- 15:52praise of inferior creatures. Right.
- 15:54A genuinely great human, say a brilliant philosopher or a
- 15:58powerful Prince, doesn't perform great deeds just to be clapped
- 16:01for by what Edwards calls a gazing multitude.
- 16:04We usually look down on people who need constant applause.
- 16:06We do we. We respect leaders who do the
- 16:09right thing regardless of the polls.
- 16:11We actually lose respect for leaders who constantly seek
- 16:13validation from the crowd. So why would God create the vast
- 16:17universe just to be applauded by, to use another Edwards
- 16:21phrase, worms of the dust? It's a striking phrase, isn't
- 16:24it? Worms of the dust.
- 16:25It is quite an image. Let me use another analogy.
- 16:28A master architect doesn't spend decades building a magnificent
- 16:31cathedral, calculating the load bearing walls, designing the
- 16:35stained glass, just hoping a colony of ants in the courtyard
- 16:38will appreciate the masonry. The ants wouldn't even know what
- 16:41they're looking at. Right, the architect builds it
- 16:43for the sake of the art and the function.
- 16:44The ants opinion is completely irrelevant.
- 16:47Why does God want our specific applause?
- 16:50Edwards approaches this by establishing the value of right
- 16:53exercise within the hierarchy of existence.
- 16:55Hierarchy of existence. What does that mean mean in this
- 16:58context? Edwards states that the highest
- 17:01kind of created existence is understanding and will.
- 17:04You know above inanimate rocks, above plants, above animals
- 17:08driven by instinct. You have creatures with a mind
- 17:10to understand and a heart to choose.
- 17:13So God creates us with faculties that the rest of the physical
- 17:16universe doesn't have. Yes, and if those faculties are
- 17:20intrinsically valuable, their highest and best use must be an
- 17:23actual exercise. A mind is valuable, but a mind
- 17:27that correctly understands truth is operating at its EAK.
- 17:31OK, I follow that. And a will is valuable, but a
- 17:33will that correctly chooses the good is operating at its EAK,
- 17:37Edwards argues the most excellent use of understanding
- 17:39is knowing God, and the most excellent use of the will is
- 17:43loving God. Because God is the ultimate
- 17:45truth and the highest good. Correct.
- 17:48Therefore, if God is going to create anything of value, it is
- 17:52entirely fitting for Him to desire the existence of this
- 17:55highly valuable dynamic creatures knowing and loving
- 17:58Him. It is not about an ego boost, it
- 18:02is about bringing into existence the most beautiful, appropriate
- 18:06reality possible. So he creates the mind and the
- 18:09heart, and the best possible thing those instruments can do
- 18:12is point back at the greatest possible object.
- 18:16Furthermore, Edwards uses the logic of loving a friend to make
- 18:19this relatable. Think about someone you deeply
- 18:21respect. OK, I have someone in mind.
- 18:23If you highly esteem a friend for their moral character, you
- 18:27naturally approve when others also respect that friend, and
- 18:30you strongly dislike it when they are shown contempt.
- 18:33Absolutely. If someone insults my spouse or
- 18:35my best friend, I feel a visceral anger because I know
- 18:37their true value. I want their value to be
- 18:39recognized by others. Because God's holiness consists
- 18:42primarily in loving Himself, since He is the objective
- 18:45standard of all goodness, He must logically and necessarily
- 18:48approve of love directed toward Himself by others.
- 18:51Because he agrees with the truth of his own value.
- 18:54Yes, to be indifferent to our praise would mean he is
- 18:57indifferent to his own supreme value.
- 18:59If he didn't care whether we praised him or cursed him, it
- 19:01would imply he doesn't actually value his own goodness.
- 19:06That reframes the motive entirely.
- 19:08If he loves what is good, and he is the highest good, he must
- 19:12logically love it when we love the highest good.
- 19:15But what about the specific analogy of the Prince and the
- 19:18rabble, or the architect and the ants?
- 19:21It still feels strange that the architect cares about the ants.
- 19:24How does Edwards dismantle the idea that our praise is just the
- 19:27meaningless noise of a mob? He addresses the mob analogy
- 19:30directly by pointing out why great men disregard the applause
- 19:33of the crowd in the 1st place. A wise Prince ignores the mob
- 19:37because the crowd is typically ignorant, giddy and unjust.
- 19:40They don't know what they're cheering for.
- 19:42Right. Their applause is based on
- 19:43whims, mistakes and folly. One day they cheer for you, the
- 19:47next day they riot against you. Naturally, a great man dismisses
- 19:51that kind of unstable validation.
- 19:52But we see that all the time in public life.
- 19:54The mob is fickle. But God does not seek blind,
- 19:57foolish or ignorant applause. He regards the wise and just
- 20:01esteem of His creatures. So it is about the quality of
- 20:04the praise. When a creature correctly
- 20:07perceives God's glory and praises him for it, that esteem
- 20:11is objectively amiable and fitting.
- 20:13It's not the noise of a rabble, it is the harmonious sound of
- 20:17truth being recognized. God values it because it is
- 20:20right, not because he needs his self esteem propped up by
- 20:23inferiors. If I take that logic and apply
- 20:26it to the cathedral analogy, the architect doesn't want the ants
- 20:29to applaud because the ants cannot comprehend the cathedral.
- 20:32To them it is just a large rock blocking the sun.
- 20:34Exactly. But if the architect could grant
- 20:36the ants the capacity to truly understand structural
- 20:39engineering, to understand weight distribution and the
- 20:41beauty of symmetry, their appreciation would actually mean
- 20:44something. It would be a true reflection of
- 20:46the architects of genius residing in the mind of the
- 20:49creature. That is a perfect extension of
- 20:51the thought. The applause has value because
- 20:54the creature has been given the capacity to grasp the truth.
- 20:57But this leads us to the 4th and final dilemma Edwards
- 21:00anticipates. And for you listening, this is
- 21:02where the rubber meets the road regarding how we experience our
- 21:05relationship with God. If God is acting for His own
- 21:09glory and orchestrating our praise for His own appropriate
- 21:12self love, where does that leave human gratitude?
- 21:15The objection here is that if God does all this for himself,
- 21:18it seemingly ruins the freeness of his goodness.
- 21:22Right. If he does it for his sake, not
- 21:24ours, why should we feel any obligation of gratitude?
- 21:27Let me raise a relatable point. Imagine a wealthy person buys
- 21:31you a lavish life changing gift. Let us say they pay off your
- 21:35entire mortgage. That would be incredible.
- 21:37At first you are overwhelmed with gratitude.
- 21:39You are weeping, you are writing thank you notes.
- 21:42But then you find out they only paid off your house so they
- 21:44could submit a photo of the transaction to a committee to
- 21:47win an award for most generous citizen.
- 21:49Oh wow, that changes things. The moment you realize their
- 21:52motive was entirely self-centered, your gratitude
- 21:55evaporates. You feel used.
- 21:57The motive dictates the gratitude.
- 21:59So if God's motive is his own glory, are we just instruments
- 22:04for his self actualization? And does that kill our reason to
- 22:08be thankful? This is perhaps Edward's most
- 22:10stunning resolution in the entire treatise.
- 22:13He argues that this objection relies entirely on the illusion
- 22:16of disjunction. I'm going to stop you right
- 22:18there. The illusion of disjunction.
- 22:19Break that down for me. What are we falsely separating?
- 22:22We falsely assume that God's glory and the creatures good are
- 22:26two opposed choices. We view it like a fork in the
- 22:28road where God must choose one path or the other.
- 22:31Either He seeks His glory or He seeks our good.
- 22:34Like it's a 0 sum game, Yes. The objector thinks these are
- 22:38mutually exclusive categories. Edwards argues they are the
- 22:41exact same thing. How can they be the same thing?
- 22:43He says that God, in seeking His glory, seeks the good of his
- 22:46creatures. The creatures Excellency and
- 22:49happiness is nothing but the emanation and expression of
- 22:51God's glory. God is our good.
- 22:54To help us visualize this, Edwards offers the imagery of
- 22:57two lines. Let us trace these two lines.
- 22:59Imagine 2 lines that look separate at the beginning of
- 23:02their trajectory. One line represents God seeking
- 23:06his own glory. The other line represents God
- 23:09seeking the creatures happiness. If you only look at the starting
- 23:12point, they look like two different paths.
- 23:15Because at the start they are conceptually different ideas in
- 23:19our heads. Right.
- 23:20But as they extend outward into eternity, they converge.
- 23:23They meet at the exact same center.
- 23:25So as the timeline stretches out, the distinction disappears.
- 23:28Yes, as the creature comes closer to infinite fullness
- 23:31throughout eternity, it's happiness becomes absolutely
- 23:34indistinguishable from God's glory.
- 23:37The more happy the creature is in God, the more glorified God
- 23:40is in the creature. So they feed into each other.
- 23:42They're not competing interests. They are the same event,
- 23:45described from two different vantage points.
- 23:48I see the logic of the two lines converging, but I'm still
- 23:50getting hung up on this. It still feels abstract.
- 23:53Does Edwards ground this in anything concrete or scriptural?
- 23:57He does. He brings in the Apostle Paul's
- 23:59discourse in Ephesians chapter 5 regarding husbands and wives to
- 24:04prove this point. OK, the marriage analogy.
- 24:06How does that map onto this philosophical argument?
- 24:09Paul says that a husband loving his wife is loving himself due
- 24:13to the strict union between them.
- 24:15They are 1 flesh. When a husband nourishes and
- 24:19cherishes his wife, he is not making a choice between his own
- 24:23welfare and hers. Because they share a life.
- 24:25Right. Her flourishing is his
- 24:27flourishing. If a husband only loves his wife
- 24:30because it benefits his public reputation, we would call that
- 24:32toxic. But Paul is saying the union is
- 24:35so tight that benefiting her is literally benefiting his own
- 24:38body. Correct, because God has united
- 24:41the creatures highest joy to His own glory.
- 24:43Seeking of His glory, seeking our joy, is a strict union.
- 24:46The two lines merging into one completely obliterates the idea
- 24:50that we are being used. We are not a stepping stone to
- 24:52His glory like the poor homeowner being used for APR
- 24:55stunt. Our joy is the actual
- 24:57manifestation of His glory. It is the substance of it.
- 25:00It is a beautiful way to understand our purpose.
- 25:02It really is. But what about the freeness of
- 25:04the gift? How does Edwards show that God
- 25:06acting for himself actually makes his benevolence more free
- 25:09rather than less? To answer that, Edwards
- 25:11introduces the concept of self moved beneficence.
- 25:14Self moved beneficence meaning doing good without being pushed
- 25:19into it. Precisely, think about human
- 25:21generosity. When humans do good, even the
- 25:24most generous among us, we are excited by an outside object.
- 25:28You see a person in need, and their visible poverty constrains
- 25:31you to help. Our emotions get triggered by
- 25:34what we see. You see a beautiful cause and
- 25:36it's worthiness motivates you to donate.
- 25:39We are reacting to things outside ourselves.
- 25:42Our giving is drawn out of us by the object.
- 25:44So human giving is always a reaction.
- 25:46I give because I see a starving child, and the sight of the
- 25:49starving child pulls the compassion out of my chest.
- 25:52Yes, but God is absolutely self moved.
- 25:55He does not look out into the void, find a worthy creature and
- 25:58react to it. Before creation, there was no
- 26:00creature to react to. He makes the objects of his
- 26:02benevolence from nothing. So there was nothing outside of
- 26:05him pulling the generosity out of him.
- 26:07Nothing at all. His goodness proceeds purely
- 26:10from the overflowing of his own fullness.
- 26:13Therefore, Edwards concludes, our gratitude should be
- 26:16completely boundless because his giving is entirely
- 26:19unconstrained. He wasn't forced into it.
- 26:21He didn't help us because we forced his hand with our innate
- 26:24worthiness. He didn't help us because our
- 26:26misery obligated him. He created our worthiness out of
- 26:29his own infinite overflow. That is the absolute definition
- 26:33of free grace. It is totally uncaused by the
- 26:36recipient. Let us bring all of this
- 26:38together and recap the massive intellectual terrain we have
- 26:41covered today. We started by looking at how
- 26:43Edwards answers the objection regarding God's independence.
- 26:46We saw that creating out of an overflow of joy, like the sun
- 26:50hitting a jewel rather than a deficit, preserves his
- 26:53perfection. And we saw the logical trap.
- 26:55Assigning any future goal to God, even altruism, still
- 26:59suggests a lack. Then we looked at the accusation
- 27:01of selfishness. Edwards proved mathematically
- 27:04and logically that God valuing himself supremely is the only
- 27:07accurate reflection of reality. A1 over Infinity ratio.
- 27:11And we learned through the anatomy analogy that this very
- 27:14self regard is the engine of his generosity.
- 27:17It guarantees he will seek the good of the whole system.
- 27:20From there we address the dignity of seeking praise.
- 27:24We discovered that God desires our worship not as a fragile ego
- 27:27boost from a mob, but because right understanding and right
- 27:31willing are the highest, most fitting realities in the
- 27:33universe. He wants the ants to understand
- 27:36the cathedral. And finally, we dismantled the
- 27:39idea that God, seeking his glory, ruins the freeness of his
- 27:42grace. Right, the illusion of
- 27:44disjunction. We realized instead that our
- 27:46eternal happiness and His eternal glory are two lines
- 27:49converging on the exact same point, sealed by a union as
- 27:53tight as a marriage. And because he has self moved,
- 27:56his grace is completely unconstrained by our worthiness.
- 27:59It is a theological framework that completely reorients how we
- 28:02view our existence. It takes a while to digest, but
- 28:04once you see it, you cannot Unsee it.
- 28:06It truly does reorient everything.
- 28:08And for you listening right now, we always want to ask the
- 28:11question, why does this theological framework matter for
- 28:15your day-to-day life? Why spend an hour thinking about
- 28:1817th century metaphysical philosophy?
- 28:21It is a fair question to ask. Understanding God's highest end
- 28:25in this way fundamentally removes the anxiety of thinking
- 28:28the universe revolves around human performance.
- 28:30It takes a massive weight off the shoulders of the creature.
- 28:33Think about it, If God's highest goal was simply making us happy
- 28:36on our terms, we would constantly be frustrated when
- 28:39life is hard wondering why God is failing at his job.
- 28:43We would judge him constantly. We would look at sickness or
- 28:46financial ruin and think the system is broken because we are
- 28:49not currently happy. But when you realize that his
- 28:52goal is the radiant overflow of his own indestructible glory,
- 28:56and that you are invited to be a jewel reflecting that light, it
- 29:00shifts your focus entirely. You are no longer trying to
- 29:03sustain the universe. You are participating in an
- 29:05already victorious, overflowing joy.
- 29:08It relieves you of the burden of being the center of the
- 29:10universe. The center of the universe is
- 29:12already occupied by someone who can actually handle the weight.
- 29:15Which brings us to a final thought for you to carry with
- 29:17you as you go about your week. We begin by talking about the
- 29:20murky waters of evaluating motives, looking for that clear,
- 29:24clean X-ray of why things happen.
- 29:26And we found it is not always so simple.
- 29:29Edwards has given us a lens to see the most basic motive of
- 29:32all, the overflowing self-sufficient joy of a perfect
- 29:36creator. So consider this strictly
- 29:38logical implication based on what we've discussed today.
- 29:41I am curious to hear this. If the truest happiness a human
- 29:45being can experience is simply becoming a clearer reflection of
- 29:48God's glory, like that jewel reflecting the sun without
- 29:51adding any new substance to it, how does that alter the way you
- 29:55evaluate your personal ambitions and the things you think you
- 29:57need to be happy today?