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- 1:30Speaker 3: Sometime after ten pm on April twenty first, two thousand
- 1:34Speaker 3: and six, twenty one year old college student Nina Ingram
- 1:37Speaker 3: was brutally murdered inside her apartment, Unit number one at
- 1:42Speaker 3: the Law Quad Complex in Fayettvile, Arkansas. The cause of
- 1:46Speaker 3: death was ligature strangulation, and the Arkansas State Crime Lab
- 1:51Speaker 3: ruled the death a homicide. Despite the fact that detectives
- 1:55Speaker 3: interviewed dozens of Nina's friends, co workers, and her significant other,
- 1:59Speaker 3: they had no viable suspects for years. One big question
- 2:04Speaker 3: was how did Nina's killer get access to her apartment.
- 2:09Speaker 1: One of the theories that police.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Had early on was that Nina's killer rushed her at
- 2:14Speaker 3: her apartment door and pushed her inside when she put
- 2:17Speaker 3: her key into the door, which could explain why none
- 2:20Speaker 3: of the neighbors who police spoke to reported hearing screams
- 2:23Speaker 3: on the night of April twenty first. But Nina's door
- 2:27Speaker 3: was locked from the inside, her keys, purse, and all
- 2:31Speaker 3: of her belongings, including her cell phone, were with her,
- 2:34Speaker 3: and there was no sign of forced entry. She was
- 2:37Speaker 3: violently strangled, which must have taken several minutes, and yet
- 2:41Speaker 3: there was no sign of anything taken from.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Her residence or of sexual assault.
- 2:47Speaker 3: So if Nina's killer did force their way in, that
- 2:50Speaker 3: would mean that they either locked the door behind them
- 2:53Speaker 3: or locked the door from the inside and then went
- 2:56Speaker 3: out another way, probably through the unlocked front window. But
- 3:01Speaker 3: if they did that, that would mean that they carefully
- 3:04Speaker 3: replaced the screen and pulled the window down to the
- 3:07Speaker 3: exact same spot where it was opened before. The Fayetteville
- 3:12Speaker 3: Police Department considered this a cold case, one of the
- 3:15Speaker 3: only unsolved cases since the nineteen seventies, but then in
- 3:20Speaker 3: twenty twelve, they arrested and charged twenty six year old
- 3:24Speaker 3: Rico Tavarius Cone with Nina's murder, but the case against
- 3:28Speaker 3: Rico Cone was not as solid as it appeared to
- 3:30Speaker 3: be on the surface. He spent over three years behind bars,
- 3:34Speaker 3: and then the case against him was dismissed.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Three years later.
- 3:39Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, Rico filed a civil lawsuit against the
- 3:42Speaker 3: Fayetteville Police Department, detectives, and employees at the Arkansas State
- 3:47Speaker 3: Crime Lab, who he alleged violated his civil rights. The
- 3:51Speaker 3: allegations made in Rico Cohne's lawsuit are obviously only one
- 3:55Speaker 3: side of this story, but it is a completely different
- 3:59Speaker 3: story than the one that has been put out, at
- 4:02Speaker 3: least so far, by the fate of a police department.
- 4:05Speaker 3: The lawsuit claims that there were several people of interests
- 4:09Speaker 3: who police interviewed over the years, people who were, according
- 4:13Speaker 3: to the lawsuit, potential suspects. The lawsuit alleges that these
- 4:17Speaker 3: potential suspects were overlooked. This case is still unsolved. The
- 4:23Speaker 3: person who murdered Nina Ingram has never been arrested or charged,
- 4:28Speaker 3: so this person is still out there and we have
- 4:31Speaker 3: access to part of this case file through a Foyer request.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Could the clues to the killer's identity be in this
- 4:39Speaker 3: case file?
- 4:41Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend.
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- 5:19Speaker 3: Helen Gone Murder Line. Rico's lawsuit, and again this claim
- 6:06Speaker 3: is just one side of the story, alleged that multiple
- 6:09Speaker 3: and credible direct reports and evidence had been submitted to
- 6:12Speaker 3: the Fayetful Police Department and other law enforcement agencies over
- 6:16Speaker 3: the years, but the lawsuit alleges that detectives ignored this evidence. Instead,
- 6:22Speaker 3: they laser focused on Rico and quote missed multiple opportunities
- 6:26Speaker 3: to investigate and perhaps actually solve this unsolved crime end quote,
- 6:31Speaker 3: So they were chasing what the lawsuit called a wrongful
- 6:35Speaker 3: and unconstitutional conviction against Rico. The lawsuit alleges that the
- 6:40Speaker 3: arrest warrant was obtained under fraudulent pretenses because the police
- 6:44Speaker 3: claimed they had three independent witnesses, but in fact, the
- 6:48Speaker 3: lawsuit pointed out all they had was a single person,
- 6:51Speaker 3: Randy Applewhite, because the second person Brenda case was a
- 6:55Speaker 3: friend of Randy's and she was repeating what Randy told her. Now,
- 6:59Speaker 3: the arrest warrant claimed that there was a third person,
- 7:01Speaker 3: an ex girlfriend of Rigo's named Kathleen Slaughter. The warrant
- 7:05Speaker 3: stated that Kathleen had shared intimate details about Nina's homicide
- 7:10Speaker 3: with detectives, but the lawsuit said.
- 7:13Speaker 1: That information was incorrect.
- 7:15Speaker 3: The lawsuit says that this third person was quote never
- 7:19Speaker 3: specifically or sufficiently identified, and never existed at all, conclusory,
- 7:24Speaker 3: at best, fabricated at worse end quote. These are serious allegations. Basically,
- 7:32Speaker 3: the lawsuit claimed that the police attempted to get an
- 7:37Speaker 3: arrest warrant, but the prosecuting attorney would not grant that
- 7:41Speaker 3: warrant because the evidence was insufficient. So the lawsuit stated
- 7:46Speaker 3: that after that police went back to the prosecuting attorney
- 7:49Speaker 3: with essentially exactly the same evidence, but now there were
- 7:53Speaker 3: three people instead of just one, and this time the
- 7:56Speaker 3: warrant was granted. Rico's attorney, Tony Pirani, claimed that on Wednesday,
- 8:02Speaker 3: January TEWOD twenty fourteen, he and the rest of the
- 8:06Speaker 3: defense team met with Detective Carlton, the lead detective on
- 8:09Speaker 3: this case, Detective Brooks, and the prosecuting attorney and his
- 8:13Speaker 3: chief deputy at the Fayeteville Police Department. They were there
- 8:16Speaker 3: to review the physical evidence still in the police department's possession.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Their purpose there was to figure out the current status
- 8:24Speaker 3: of all DNA testing, to figure out what had been tested,
- 8:28Speaker 3: what the results were, and what the communication was between
- 8:32Speaker 3: the Fayetful Police Department and the Arkansas State Crime Lab
- 8:35Speaker 3: regarding this case. Two days later, Rico's attorneys had another
- 8:39Speaker 3: meeting with personnel at the Arkansas State Crime Lab. Now,
- 8:43Speaker 3: the lawsuit states that during this meeting they realized there
- 8:46Speaker 3: were irregularities in the testing and procedures in this case.
- 8:51Speaker 3: They said some pieces of evidence in Nina's case had
- 8:54Speaker 3: not been properly labeled or tested, and that safeguards had
- 8:58Speaker 3: been failed in regards to DNA tape lifts that were
- 9:02Speaker 3: done from Nina's clothing. On April twenty six, twenty twelve,
- 9:06Speaker 3: Officer Carlton called Brenda Case later labeled Confidential Informant IE
- 9:11Speaker 3: in the search warrant documents, She told defendant Carlton that
- 9:15Speaker 3: her friend Randy Applewhite had a detailed account of the
- 9:18Speaker 3: Nina Ingram homicide allegedly from Rico Cone.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Now.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Rico Cone allegedly told Randy that he was at the
- 9:26Speaker 3: Law Couad apartments to buy marijuana, that he saw Nina
- 9:29Speaker 3: in the parking lot, and that he hit on her,
- 9:31Speaker 3: and that Nina turned him down. Brenda Kay said that
- 9:35Speaker 3: Randy told her Rico came back later and went to
- 9:38Speaker 3: Nina's apartment, using the excuse that he needed to borrow something.
- 9:42Speaker 3: He knocked on the door, Nina opened the door and
- 9:45Speaker 3: then tried to shut it, but it failed to close
- 9:47Speaker 3: all the way, and at that point Rico entered Nina's
- 9:49Speaker 3: apartment and strangled her to death. So Randy Applewhite became
- 9:54Speaker 3: Confidential Informant number two. But Rico's lawsuit claims that Randy's
- 9:59Speaker 3: story did change over time, and that the second time
- 10:03Speaker 3: that Detective Carlton spoke to Randy, on May first, twenty twelve, quote,
- 10:08Speaker 3: she had already significantly changed her own reported timeline, substantially
- 10:12Speaker 3: altering her earlier story, which should have given an early
- 10:16Speaker 3: clue that something was amiss end quote. The lawsuit also
- 10:20Speaker 3: alleges that Detective Carlton helped Randy apple White financially, that
- 10:26Speaker 3: he encouraged her to contact crime stoppers so she could
- 10:28Speaker 3: collect the cash reward if she continued to cooperate, which
- 10:31Speaker 3: she did, and the lawsuit claimed that Detective Carlton, in
- 10:35Speaker 3: what they called a highly unusual move, destroyed his own
- 10:39Speaker 3: investigative field notes. Rico's defense attorneys were preparing for his trial,
- 10:44Speaker 3: so they contacted Randy apple White, and on December seventeenth,
- 10:48Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, according to the lawsuit, when Rico's legal team
- 10:52Speaker 3: spoke to Randy, she told them she did not believe
- 10:55Speaker 3: that Rico was guilty of the murder. The civil lawsuit
- 10:59Speaker 3: also claimed that Randy said she was quote no longer
- 11:02Speaker 3: certain exactly what, if anything, she recalled Rico, ever having
- 11:07Speaker 3: said regarding any alleged involvement in the Ingram homicide, and
- 11:11Speaker 3: that she wanted no part in a criminal prosecution which
- 11:14Speaker 3: could potentially see Rico convicted of capital murder and sentenced
- 11:18Speaker 3: to death end quote. The lawsuit alleges that on several
- 11:24Speaker 3: occasions that Detective Carlton gave Randy apple White money, including
- 11:29Speaker 3: thirty five dollars in gas money on May third, twenty twelve,
- 11:32Speaker 3: and also a hotel room that he booked for her
- 11:35Speaker 3: and her children for two nights at the Clarion Inn
- 11:37Speaker 3: for one hundred and twenty four dollars and fifty eight cents. Now,
- 11:40Speaker 3: this apparently happened after Detective Carlton got a call from
- 11:44Speaker 3: Randy apple White alleging that Rico had assaulted her. After
- 11:48Speaker 3: that incident, they did DNA testing on Randy's shirt and
- 11:52Speaker 3: they found no match to Rico Cone. During this time,
- 11:56Speaker 3: detectives were doing a deep dive into Rico Cone's history
- 12:00Speaker 3: and his employment record. They were conducting follow up calls
- 12:04Speaker 3: and visits with current and former residents of the Law
- 12:07Speaker 3: Quad apartments.
- 12:09Speaker 1: While this was going on.
- 12:11Speaker 3: On May fourteenth, twenty twelve, Rico Cone got wind of
- 12:15Speaker 3: the police investigation against him, and that's when, according to
- 12:19Speaker 3: his attorney, He decided to voluntarily talk to police because,
- 12:23Speaker 3: according to the civil lawsuit, Rico wanted to be cleared.
- 12:27Speaker 3: At this interview, police gave Rico a doctor pepper to
- 12:30Speaker 3: drink after he said he was thirsty. Then Detective Carlton
- 12:34Speaker 3: told Rico that they had taken a DNA sample from
- 12:37Speaker 3: that doctor Pepper camp and that they had matched the
- 12:41Speaker 3: DNA on it to a DNA sample taken from the
- 12:43Speaker 3: crime scene, meaning the detective told Rico that Rico had
- 12:48Speaker 3: been inside Nina Ingram's apartment. This, however, was not true.
- 12:53Speaker 3: I want to point out by the way that we
- 12:54Speaker 3: can't know the inner workings of Detective Carlton's mind at
- 12:58Speaker 3: this point, but it is not illegal for detectives to
- 13:01Speaker 3: light to suspects. Often it's encouraged. I've actually taken the
- 13:06Speaker 3: read Interrogation seminar as part of my private investigator training.
- 13:09Speaker 3: That's the same one the police take, and in that
- 13:12Speaker 3: seminar they actually teach you how to lie. But Rico
- 13:15Speaker 3: Cone's civil lawsuit alleges that the police didn't stop there.
- 13:20Speaker 3: The lawsuit alleges that not only was the case against
- 13:23Speaker 3: Rico Cone weaked to nonexistent, but that the judge who
- 13:26Speaker 3: issued the search warrant, and the public were actually being misled.
- 13:30Speaker 3: They were being told that Rico Cone was the only
- 13:34Speaker 3: Bible suspect, But in fact, as we got into last week,
- 13:37Speaker 3: Rico Cone was not the only man questioned, and there's
- 13:41Speaker 3: nothing about Rico Cone in the case by up to
- 13:44Speaker 3: the year two thousand and eight, at least nothing that's
- 13:47Speaker 3: been publicly released via FOI request. I could not find
- 13:51Speaker 3: any mention of Rigo Cone in the pieces of the
- 13:54Speaker 3: case file that we were given, though again we can't
- 13:57Speaker 3: be sure that we have every document because much later
- 14:01Speaker 3: after the case against Rigo Cone was dismissed, Rico Cone's
- 14:05Speaker 3: entire criminal case was sealed by a judge. There is
- 14:09Speaker 3: no mention of Rico Cone's name in connection with the
- 14:12Speaker 3: Nina Ingram case anywhere in the Arkansas court system. After that,
- 14:17Speaker 3: Nina's case went cold again. And while of course we
- 14:20Speaker 3: can't know for sure what was happening behind the scenes
- 14:23Speaker 3: of the investigation, publicly, the statements made by police appeared
- 14:27Speaker 3: to indicate they believed they did have the right person,
- 14:31Speaker 3: but they did not have enough evidence to prosecute Rigo Cone.
- 14:35Speaker 3: They had one year to refile charges, but they never did,
- 14:39Speaker 3: which means Nina's killer was.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Still out there.
- 14:53Speaker 3: One of the things that police were trying to figure
- 14:55Speaker 3: out early on was was this a random attack or
- 14:59Speaker 3: someone whom Nina knew, because even though everyone they talked
- 15:02Speaker 3: to said Nina was this super nice person and they
- 15:05Speaker 3: couldn't imagine anyone would want to hurt her, the fact
- 15:08Speaker 3: is someone did brutally strangle her, and her cell phone
- 15:12Speaker 3: was in her pocket, She had no defensive wounds on
- 15:15Speaker 3: her hands, and she was not sexually assaulted. Also, her
- 15:19Speaker 3: purse was found near her body with money inside it,
- 15:22Speaker 3: and nothing obvious was taken from her apartment, so, at
- 15:26Speaker 3: least on the surface, the motive did not appear to
- 15:28Speaker 3: be robbery or sexual assault. And I keep coming back
- 15:32Speaker 3: to the locked door because I believe it could.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Be a crucial clue.
- 15:36Speaker 3: When Nina's brother, Noah and his roommate Chad got to
- 15:40Speaker 3: her apartment the day her body was found, the door
- 15:43Speaker 3: was double locked. Her brother had to crawl in through
- 15:45Speaker 3: an open window next to the door, then he unlocked
- 15:48Speaker 3: the regular.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Lock and the dead bowl.
- 15:51Speaker 3: So if the killer left through the door, how did
- 15:54Speaker 3: they lock it behind themselves?
- 15:58Speaker 1: Police asked several people about.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Nina's keys, including Nina's boyfriend, Josh Stewart.
- 16:04Speaker 1: We talked to Josh.
- 16:05Speaker 3: He said that he met Nina in March of two
- 16:07Speaker 3: thousand and five when they started working at the same Walmart.
- 16:11Speaker 3: They started dating later that summer.
- 16:14Speaker 4: There's a new store that's being open and Rogers Arkansas.
- 16:17Speaker 4: We were helping you get that store set up and
- 16:20Speaker 4: so met her at that time, but we didn't start
- 16:24Speaker 4: dating more over the summer. By midsummer May of late summer,
- 16:28Speaker 4: say I was bye. We started dating, So we didn't
- 16:30Speaker 4: date for very long. At the most seven eight months
- 16:34Speaker 4: we were seeing each other exclusively. You know, we have
- 16:37Speaker 4: started talking about getting the place together because we spend
- 16:39Speaker 4: our time together. Anyway, She spent a lot of time
- 16:42Speaker 4: at my apartment changedly move along grade.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Josh said that he did not have a key to
- 16:48Speaker 3: her apartment, and even though she had a key to
- 16:50Speaker 3: his place, and even though they regularly switch vehicles, He
- 16:53Speaker 3: said they did this because he had to commute for work.
- 16:57Speaker 3: He worried that his older truck wouldn't make it all
- 16:59Speaker 3: the way to Bentonville, so on the days he had
- 17:01Speaker 3: to make that drive, Nina would lend him her two
- 17:04Speaker 3: thousand and two Toyota Corolla.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Josh told detectives he.
- 17:08Speaker 3: Had not actually been inside Nina's apartment for a couple
- 17:11Speaker 3: of months. Their routine was she would get off work,
- 17:14Speaker 3: usually shower, and then come to his place to hang out.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Sometimes they would go out when she came to his place.
- 17:21Speaker 3: Sometimes she would stay over there. Sometimes she would go
- 17:23Speaker 3: back home, but he pretty much never stayed at her place.
- 17:28Speaker 3: He also told detectives that Nina often felt he would
- 17:31Speaker 3: get angry with her if she didn't stay over. In
- 17:35Speaker 3: two thousand and six, Josh told detectives that his relationship
- 17:38Speaker 3: with Nina had been going great. He said Nina planned
- 17:41Speaker 3: to move in with him when her lease was up.
- 17:43Speaker 3: He said she was easy going and they got along
- 17:46Speaker 3: super well, that they came from similar hard working family backgrounds,
- 17:49Speaker 3: and that they had shared values. They were both working
- 17:52Speaker 3: their way through college. He said, I was going to
- 17:55Speaker 3: marry that girl. He cried as he told detectives quote,
- 17:59Speaker 3: it's the best relationship that I've ever had. Police asked
- 18:04Speaker 3: about the keys several times. Josh clarified that his truck
- 18:08Speaker 3: keys were on a removable ring, so when they swapped vehicles.
- 18:12Speaker 3: He said he would take the truck keys on their
- 18:13Speaker 3: little silver ring and give them to Nina and vice versa,
- 18:16Speaker 3: so that allowed them to swap vehicle keys without swapping
- 18:20Speaker 3: the entire key ring. Police also asked Josh if Nina
- 18:24Speaker 3: had noticed anything at work or at home if there
- 18:27Speaker 3: was anyone who would want to hurt her. Josh said
- 18:30Speaker 3: not at work, but he said Nina had told him
- 18:33Speaker 3: about some guys at her apartment complex who were cat
- 18:36Speaker 3: calling her. He told detectives this happened five days before
- 18:40Speaker 3: Nina's murder on Easter Sunday, April sixteenth, two thousand and six.
- 18:44Speaker 3: While Josh said he hadn't been inside Nina's apartment in months,
- 18:47Speaker 3: he said he had waited for Nina in the parking
- 18:49Speaker 3: lot of her complex on Easter Sunday, April sixteenth, two
- 18:53Speaker 3: thousand and six. He said on that day, both he
- 18:56Speaker 3: and Nina had the day off. He said they hung
- 18:58Speaker 3: out together and went to Walmart to buy some stuff.
- 19:01Speaker 3: After that, they swung by her apartment complex so she
- 19:04Speaker 3: could run inside and change before they went out to eat.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Josh said that while he was waiting for Nina in
- 19:09Speaker 3: the law Quad parking lot, he noticed two or three
- 19:12Speaker 3: young men, who he had described a police as young
- 19:15Speaker 3: male kids aged fourteen to fifteen years old, and at
- 19:18Speaker 3: least one of them driving a truck. He said that
- 19:22Speaker 3: Nina had told him on that day that one of
- 19:24Speaker 3: these guys had been cat calling her and called her
- 19:27Speaker 3: a bitch, and that he had considered confronting them but didn't.
- 19:31Speaker 4: She guys just said something to me, and I'm like, well,
- 19:33Speaker 4: whe they say, she's whether he was hollering at me
- 19:35Speaker 4: and trying to get come talk to them, and I
- 19:38Speaker 4: just ignored them. And she's kind of shaken up by
- 19:40Speaker 4: that enough to mention it to me, and I, well,
- 19:44Speaker 4: do we need the same thing? And she was like, well,
- 19:46Speaker 4: now they drove off, so it was from like a vehicle.
- 19:50Speaker 4: She just kind of shook it off, and you know,
- 19:53Speaker 4: I don't know, it's not that big deal. Let's just
- 19:54Speaker 4: move on. That's the only time that I recall her
- 19:58Speaker 4: being uncomfortable about anybody in the complex.
- 20:01Speaker 3: Later, Rico's defense team talked to Josh as well. He
- 20:05Speaker 3: told them that the mental image he had in his
- 20:07Speaker 3: head from that day was that it could have been
- 20:09Speaker 3: a couple of white guys and that they were definitely
- 20:11Speaker 3: younger than him.
- 20:12Speaker 1: And Nina.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Another former law squad resident named Catherine Austin, who lived
- 20:17Speaker 3: in apartment number eighty two, told police on April seventeenth,
- 20:21Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, that around the time of the murder,
- 20:23Speaker 3: there were four men. She described them as clean cut,
- 20:26Speaker 3: white males hanging around in that parking lot in a
- 20:29Speaker 3: white four door pickup truck. Catherine said two of these
- 20:33Speaker 3: guys came up to her apartment door and asked her
- 20:35Speaker 3: what her name was. She said that this made her
- 20:38Speaker 3: very uncomfortable because they invaded her personal space.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Again.
- 20:43Speaker 3: According to the lawsuit, there were several potential people of
- 20:46Speaker 3: interests who the suit claimed should have been thoroughly investigated.
- 20:49Speaker 3: The lawsuit alleges that the lead detective, Scott Carlton, when
- 20:52Speaker 3: he took over the investigation, very quickly became totally focused
- 20:57Speaker 3: on Rico Cone, and that Detective Carlton was quote exhibiting
- 21:01Speaker 3: clear signs of cognitive bias, repeatedly assisted Josh in matching
- 21:05Speaker 3: up his answers with his prior statements by telling him
- 21:08Speaker 3: what an excellent job he was doing and even providing
- 21:10Speaker 3: him with a transcript of his prior statement with highlighted portions,
- 21:14Speaker 3: and it was only after that happened that Josh then
- 21:17Speaker 3: changed his statement back to having been present in the
- 21:19Speaker 3: parking lot end quote. The lawsuit alleged there was really
- 21:24Speaker 3: no evidence, physical or otherwise against Rico Cone, but there
- 21:29Speaker 3: were pieces of evidence that could have pointed to other
- 21:32Speaker 3: people of interest.
- 21:34Speaker 1: There was the text message. Josh told police.
- 21:36Speaker 3: That Nina had communicated with someone online prior to leaving
- 21:40Speaker 3: his residence. On April twenty first, two thousand and six,
- 21:43Speaker 3: detective found a text message on Nina's cell phone from
- 21:46Speaker 3: a contact listed as Joey. The message read quote I
- 21:50Speaker 3: see be careful, be one hundred percent see ya end quote.
- 21:54Speaker 3: But that person Joey was never identified in the case file.
- 21:59Speaker 3: So who was Joey? Was he the last.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Person who Nina messaged? What did he mean by be careful?
- 22:06Speaker 3: Was this just a random occurrence or could it be
- 22:09Speaker 3: a clue. Several potential pieces of evidence were sent to
- 22:13Speaker 3: the Arkansas State Crime Lab, including Nina's clothes that she
- 22:17Speaker 3: was wearing, plus other items of clothing including jeans, towels,
- 22:22Speaker 3: and socks, the dead bolt and doorknob from the front door,
- 22:25Speaker 3: a small black elastic cord with a white button that
- 22:28Speaker 3: was found under the bed, Nina's betting, and the black
- 22:31Speaker 3: leather belt that was found in the kitchen trash can.
- 22:34Speaker 3: They also found other items, including a Valentine's card that
- 22:37Speaker 3: was from Josh and a poem that Nina had written
- 22:39Speaker 3: to her mom. The lawsuit mentions the fact that the
- 22:43Speaker 3: DNA evidence collection procedures were much less advanced in two
- 22:47Speaker 3: thousand and six than they are today. The training of
- 22:50Speaker 3: law enforcement and the procedures at the Arkansas State Crime
- 22:53Speaker 3: Lab were also not what they are today. This would
- 22:58Speaker 3: become a crucial component of Rico's lawsuit.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Another question that we had when.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Reviewing this case file were who were the men whom
- 23:08Speaker 3: Nina was seen talking to at her apartment complex in
- 23:11Speaker 3: the days before her death. Detectives talked to a neighbor
- 23:15Speaker 3: of Nina's who said she saw Nina sitting on a
- 23:18Speaker 3: bench in her apartment building on April twentieth, two thousand
- 23:20Speaker 3: and six, the day before she was murdered. Nina was
- 23:23Speaker 3: talking to a white male described as having slightly bigger
- 23:27Speaker 3: than medium builled, with blondish brown hair and a pasty
- 23:30Speaker 3: white complexion, approximately five foot eight to five foot ten
- 23:33Speaker 3: inches tall. The neighbor told police she had seen Nina
- 23:37Speaker 3: come home with a similar looking mail on multiple prior
- 23:40Speaker 3: occasions after dark. Now remember, Nina's boyfriend, Josh, told police
- 23:46Speaker 3: that he had not been inside Nina's apartment in months. However,
- 23:50Speaker 3: he did say he had been in the parking lot
- 23:53Speaker 3: a few days before her murder. This neighbor also said
- 23:56Speaker 3: that she saw Nina that same week with another different
- 23:59Speaker 3: white male with lighter brown hair and a medium build
- 24:02Speaker 3: between five foot ten and five foot eleven inches tall,
- 24:05Speaker 3: that the two of them had walked together to Nina's apartment,
- 24:08Speaker 3: standing very close with the white male than following Nina
- 24:11Speaker 3: into the apartment. This could have been Nina's brother or
- 24:15Speaker 3: another friend, but this information, to our knowledge, was never
- 24:19Speaker 3: followed up on in the police file. Another question we
- 24:23Speaker 3: had was could someone have been stalking Nina. Police did
- 24:27Speaker 3: talk to a friend of Nina's named Samantha Stevens. She
- 24:30Speaker 3: said Nina had told her in the past that someone
- 24:33Speaker 3: had been stalking her at her apartment and following her around,
- 24:36Speaker 3: but there are no more details about this in the
- 24:38Speaker 3: case file, including when they had this conversation and how
- 24:41Speaker 3: recently it happened.
- 24:43Speaker 1: It just as in the.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Past, the Fayetteville police department asked the FBI to get
- 24:48Speaker 3: involved with Nina's case, and they did. In March of
- 24:51Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, Detective John Gentry of the Faetful
- 24:54Speaker 3: Police Department worked with a crime analyst named Tom Dover
- 24:58Speaker 3: of the Behavioral Analysis Unit of the FBI as part
- 25:02Speaker 3: of the Violent Criminal Apprehension Program or VISCAP. They prepared
- 25:06Speaker 3: and generated a criminal investigative analysis of the Nini Ingram homicide,
- 25:11Speaker 3: including a very detailed profile of potential suspects. So ViCAP
- 25:17Speaker 3: has a few different functions. One of them is the
- 25:19Speaker 3: one that most of us have seen in the movies
- 25:21Speaker 3: where the FBI criminal profiler comes in. They have a
- 25:24Speaker 3: big marker board with a bunch of unsolved homicides on it.
- 25:27Speaker 3: They analyze major violent crimes and can link cases based
- 25:30Speaker 3: on behavioral and geographical similarities. Basically, they find patterns, but
- 25:35Speaker 3: ViCAP also looks at individual cases and from the information
- 25:39Speaker 3: in the case file. By examining the crime scene, they
- 25:41Speaker 3: can give a profile of the unsub short for unknown
- 25:44Speaker 3: subject or unidentified subject. This is meant to help local
- 25:48Speaker 3: law enforcement narrow down their search. On April sixteenth, two
- 25:51Speaker 3: thousand and seven, the FBI gave the profile that they
- 25:55Speaker 3: produced to the FFUL Police Department. The VISCAP profile was
- 26:00Speaker 3: pretty much the opposite of ricocone. The VISCAT profile stated
- 26:04Speaker 3: that Nina's killer was likely a Caucasian male, familiar and
- 26:08Speaker 3: comfortable in the area, and that they were likely living
- 26:10Speaker 3: in or near Fayette, Arkansas. In terms of the man
- 26:14Speaker 3: being Caucasian, that would track with the initial interviews, not
- 26:18Speaker 3: one single person mentioned a person of color as hanging
- 26:21Speaker 3: around the apartment building. So, in addition to believing that
- 26:24Speaker 3: the killer was local and not a transient, the VISCAP
- 26:27Speaker 3: profile stated that they believed the evidence suggested that the
- 26:32Speaker 3: killer knew Nina and may have had an intimate relationship
- 26:35Speaker 3: with her, and that they were familiar with her schedule. Again,
- 26:39Speaker 3: this is the opposite of ricocone. He was a stranger
- 26:42Speaker 3: to Nina. To the witness Randy Applewhite story, Rico only
- 26:47Speaker 3: saw her briefly and attacked her because he just happened
- 26:50Speaker 3: to see her coming home. The FBI stated that Nina's killer,
- 26:54Speaker 3: according to the profile they provided quote, knew his or
- 26:58Speaker 3: her proximity to her would not cause her alarm end quote,
- 27:02Speaker 3: So they believed that Nina's killer was someone who if
- 27:06Speaker 3: she saw them in line at Taco Bell or hanging
- 27:08Speaker 3: out at Walmart, or maybe even in her apartment complex,
- 27:11Speaker 3: maybe would not be immediately freaked out and shut the
- 27:15Speaker 3: door in their face. The VISCAT profile suggested that Nina
- 27:19Speaker 3: and the offender may have gotten into some kind of
- 27:21Speaker 3: a conflict in the past, but they believed that it
- 27:25Speaker 3: was likely that the offender had been nice to her
- 27:28Speaker 3: in the run up to the killing. So the FBI
- 27:31Speaker 3: seemed to think that this murder was something the killer
- 27:34Speaker 3: had planned out fairly carefully. And this next part of
- 27:38Speaker 3: the FBI's report is interesting. Quoted in court documents, it read,
- 27:41Speaker 3: quote offender may have been excessively nice to the victim
- 27:45Speaker 3: in the time preceding the homicide, in hopes this behavior
- 27:48Speaker 3: would deflect law enforcement's attention away from him after the homicide.
- 27:53Speaker 1: End quote.
- 27:54Speaker 3: The final note was that the offender may have executed
- 27:58Speaker 3: a well constructed plan in committing the homicide, so the
- 28:01Speaker 3: profiler believed this was not a random attack, and finally,
- 28:06Speaker 3: the profiler believed the offender was likely satisfied that the
- 28:10Speaker 3: victim is dead. The VISCAT profile also stated that the
- 28:18Speaker 3: offender was quote likely monitoring this case through the media,
- 28:22Speaker 3: and may have already been contacted by law enforcement regarding
- 28:25Speaker 3: the incident.
- 28:27Speaker 1: So they were looking for someone.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Who knew Nina, who maybe had been rejected by her,
- 28:32Speaker 3: who was potentially inserting themselves into her case to help
- 28:35Speaker 3: law enforcement, and who may be monitoring the case through
- 28:39Speaker 3: the media.
- 28:41Speaker 1: Now.
- 28:41Speaker 3: The lawsuit stated that none of those details matched Rico Cone,
- 28:46Speaker 3: but almost all of them matched the person that the
- 28:49Speaker 3: lawsuit called person of interest A Josh and another person
- 28:54Speaker 3: the person they called person of interest B. Based on
- 29:09Speaker 3: the FBI's assessment of Nina's case, Rico Cone did not
- 29:13Speaker 3: fit the profile of her killer. The lawsuit alleged that
- 29:17Speaker 3: the lead detective, Scott Carlton, and his colleagues were quote
- 29:21Speaker 3: seeking solely to obtain a conviction and close out a
- 29:23Speaker 3: politically difficult case, without regard to where the facts or
- 29:27Speaker 3: evidence may lead end quote. The lawsuit also accused the
- 29:31Speaker 3: lead detective and his colleagues of conspiring with the Arkansas
- 29:35Speaker 3: State Crime Lab to hide or manipulate evidence and intentionally
- 29:40Speaker 3: and deliberately misleading both the Office of the Prosecutor Attorney
- 29:44Speaker 3: and the general public about the relative strengths and weaknesses
- 29:48Speaker 3: of what the lawsuit called an improper, illegitimate, and unconstitutional case.
- 29:53Speaker 3: The lawsuit mentioned someone else who they called person of
- 29:57Speaker 3: interest B. Now, this person is not named in the lawsuit,
- 30:01Speaker 3: but by comparing the civil lawsuit to the part of
- 30:03Speaker 3: the case file that we have access to, this person
- 30:06Speaker 3: appears to match the description of a man named Jarvis Harper.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Jarvis was someone who first came up in the case
- 30:14Speaker 3: file in two thousand and eight.
- 30:15Speaker 1: On August fifth, two thousand and eight.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Officers from the Fayetable Police Department went to a residence
- 30:20Speaker 3: where a woman was requesting help to obtain an order
- 30:22Speaker 3: of protection.
- 30:23Speaker 1: The woman's name was Nicki Perry.
- 30:26Speaker 3: She wanted the restraining order against her boyfriend, twenty nine
- 30:28Speaker 3: year old Jarvis Harper. She told officers that she and
- 30:32Speaker 3: Jarvis had been living together for about five years. She
- 30:35Speaker 3: said that he was a quote controlling individual who monitors
- 30:39Speaker 3: her every move end quote. She said Jarvis had a
- 30:42Speaker 3: camera inside the house. She said he installed it there
- 30:45Speaker 3: to track her. She claimed that it recorded twenty four
- 30:48Speaker 3: hours a day. She said she was afraid of turning
- 30:50Speaker 3: the camera off because Jarvis allegedly had a bad temper.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Nicki also said Jarvis had done something to the back door,
- 30:57Speaker 3: basically disabled it so she couldn't get out of the
- 30:59Speaker 3: apartment the back way, meaning Nicki told officers that she
- 31:03Speaker 3: would always have to go through the front door to
- 31:05Speaker 3: leave the apartment. Jarvis, also, according to Nicki, asked her
- 31:09Speaker 3: to change her name and start going by the name
- 31:12Speaker 3: Lindsey Knight, which she said she agreed to do. The
- 31:17Speaker 3: latest incident that led to her calling the police had
- 31:19Speaker 3: actually started three days before. She said that on that day,
- 31:23Speaker 3: on April second, two thousand and eight, that Jarvis had
- 31:27Speaker 3: tied her hands together with black drawstring cords that he
- 31:30Speaker 3: took out of a pair of athletic shorts. Nicki said
- 31:33Speaker 3: that he left her tied up for half the day,
- 31:35Speaker 3: starting at around two pm. She said, while she was
- 31:39Speaker 3: tied up, Jarvis sat on top of her and held
- 31:42Speaker 3: his Bretta nine milimi a pistol to her head, demanding
- 31:46Speaker 3: to know the truth about her activity. Apparently he believed
- 31:49Speaker 3: she had been lying to him. Nikki said that she
- 31:52Speaker 3: complied because she was terrified. She said she had been
- 31:54Speaker 3: too afraid to call the police. On the police report,
- 31:57Speaker 3: it noted detectives took away the drawstring cords from the
- 32:01Speaker 3: athletic shorts as evidence. But there was something else at
- 32:04Speaker 3: that residence. In the living room, Jarvis had a framed
- 32:08Speaker 3: photo of Nina Ingram. It was the same photo that
- 32:11Speaker 3: had been passed out to Walmart employees after Nina died,
- 32:15Speaker 3: and in fact, Jarvis worked with Nina at the Sixth
- 32:18Speaker 3: Street Walmart. But Jarvis, apparently, according to the lawsuit, didn't
- 32:23Speaker 3: actually get the photo that way. In fact, Rico's lawsuit
- 32:27Speaker 3: claims that Jarvis wanted a way to remember Nina, so
- 32:31Speaker 3: he went and tracked down the photo from another employee.
- 32:34Speaker 3: The lawsuit claimed Jarvis was not aware that the framed
- 32:38Speaker 3: photograph of Nina Ingram that he had on his wall
- 32:41Speaker 3: was the same one they handed out at Walmart. Police
- 32:44Speaker 3: later questioned Nikki about this photo. Nicki said when she
- 32:48Speaker 3: had asked about the photo of Nina, Jarvis told her
- 32:51Speaker 3: the photo was there because Nina was a friend of his,
- 32:53Speaker 3: and also he was good friends with her boyfriend, Josh.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Jarvis told her that he had worked with Nina at
- 32:59Speaker 3: Walmart and that he quote was pretty sure he knows
- 33:03Speaker 3: who did it, meaning knows who killed Nina, but that
- 33:05Speaker 3: it could not be proven. So we have a person
- 33:09Speaker 3: with a definite connection to Nina Ingram, someone who worked
- 33:12Speaker 3: with her and her boyfriend, who was accused of choking
- 33:15Speaker 3: his girlfriend with the cord of his athletic shorts, and
- 33:18Speaker 3: who allegedly exhibited violent behavior. We know that, according to
- 33:22Speaker 3: the autopsy report, Nina was strangled with an object that
- 33:26Speaker 3: was between one sixteenth of an inch and one eighth
- 33:29Speaker 3: of an inch wide, and that the murder weapon was
- 33:31Speaker 3: never found. In addition to the photographs of Nina on
- 33:35Speaker 3: the wall, Jarvis also had photographs of other women in
- 33:39Speaker 3: a filing cabinet next to his computer. Nicki told police
- 33:43Speaker 3: Jarvist told her one of the women was a missing person,
- 33:46Speaker 3: but did not give her any more details about that woman,
- 33:49Speaker 3: about the case, or where or when the woman supposedly
- 33:53Speaker 3: went missing. Nicki told police she didn't remember a lot
- 33:56Speaker 3: of details about the files she saw inside Jarvis's office,
- 34:00Speaker 3: other than the fact that she said the name McMillan
- 34:03Speaker 3: was written on the bottom front of one of those photos.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Nicki said that again, besides Nina, who she had specifically
- 34:10Speaker 3: asked about, she did not know who any of these
- 34:13Speaker 3: other women were. Police also talked to Nicki's mother, Susie
- 34:17Speaker 3: Susie told detectives that Jarvis was a martial arts expert,
- 34:20Speaker 3: that he had various martial arts weapons and guns and
- 34:23Speaker 3: ninja items in the home, and that he was quote
- 34:26Speaker 3: as self proclaimed ninja and black belt end quote. Jarvis
- 34:31Speaker 3: confirmed to police that he did practice martial arts. Police
- 34:35Speaker 3: searched the bedroom and remove some items, including a black
- 34:38Speaker 3: scheme mask. Next week, We're going to hear more from
- 34:42Speaker 3: Nina's boyfriend at the time, Josh, about his relationship with Dina,
- 34:46Speaker 3: his relationship with Jarvis, and his theories on the case.
- 34:50Speaker 3: We're also going to try to figure out who the
- 34:54Speaker 3: other women were on Jarvis's wall. I'm Katherine Townsend. This
- 35:00Speaker 3: is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone Murder Line is
- 35:05Speaker 3: a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts. It's
- 35:08Speaker 3: written and narrated by me Katherine Townsend and produced by
- 35:11Speaker 3: Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her research
- 35:15Speaker 3: assistance and James Wheaton for legal review. Noah camer mixed
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