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- 0:00Welcome to Reform Thinking and welcome back to the Deep Dive.
- 0:03We're really glad you could join us.
- 0:04Yeah, good to be diving in again.
- 0:06So today we're tackling something, well, absolutely
- 0:10foundational for Christian life and worship.
- 0:13We're looking at authentic preaching.
- 0:16What does it actually look like today?
- 0:19A big topic. It is.
- 0:20We're going to unpack some thoughts from John Piper looking
- 0:22at why some preaching really hits home.
- 0:25You know, connects with the Bible score truth while other
- 0:28preaching maybe doesn't quite get there.
- 0:31Right. It feels like sometimes it
- 0:33misses the mark even with good intentions.
- 0:35Exactly. There often seems to be this
- 0:37tension, doesn't there in the pulpit.
- 0:39Sometimes it feels maybe a bit dry, maybe too academic.
- 0:43Or the opposite. Or yeah, the opposite extreme,
- 0:45this push towards something that feels more like, well,
- 0:48entertainment. Superficial.
- 0:49Almost. Yeah, and Piper seems to point
- 0:52towards a different way, something that brings together
- 0:54seriousness and joy. A.
- 0:56Synthesis like you said. Which leads to our main question
- 0:59today, How does a preacher stand up there, convey the real solemn
- 1:04weight of God's truth, but at the same time have this genuine,
- 1:08robust human joy about them? That's the crux of it, isn't it?
- 1:12It is. So this deep dive, we hope, will
- 1:14shed some light on the kind of presentation that truly
- 1:17communicates God's Word and how that stands apart from just
- 1:21trying to amuse people. Yeah, it's a really important
- 1:23distinction to make. It feels essential.
- 1:25And you frame that tension perfectly.
- 1:27Our discussion, as you said it, leans heavily on John Piper's
- 1:31book Brothers, We Are Not Professionals.
- 1:33It's quite the title. It certainly makes you think.
- 1:35It does. Specifically, we're digging into
- 1:37the section he calls brothers be Bible oriented preachers, not
- 1:41entertainment oriented preachers, and his whole
- 1:44argument there really hangs on two key things that are totally
- 1:47linked. First, where does the preacher's
- 1:50authority actually come from? The source?
- 1:52Right, the source of the message.
- 1:53Exactly. And 2nd, what's the preacher's
- 1:55disposition, their inner posture, their demeanor?
- 1:59You know how they carry themselves when they're
- 2:01delivering that message. So it's not just what is said,
- 2:05but how it's said and where it comes from.
- 2:07Precisely, It's about understanding what gives
- 2:10preaching it's it's real substance and impact.
- 2:13OK, let's start with Piper's idea of earnestness.
- 2:16I've been thinking about that word.
- 2:17It sounds quite serious, maybe even a bit heavy, but he says
- 2:21it's not joyless. How does that work?
- 2:24What does being earnest actually mean in this context?
- 2:26That's a great place to start because it's foundational for
- 2:29Piper. Earnestness is well, it's
- 2:32basically the inner disposition that genuinely matches the
- 2:35immense weight of what's being preached.
- 2:37OK. Matching the weight, yeah.
- 2:39Think of it like and authenticity, an alignment
- 2:42between the message of these huge eternal truths and the
- 2:45preachers own internal state. It's something that helps the
- 2:48message be felt, not just heard. I see, so it affects the
- 2:51delivery. Absolutely.
- 2:52The preachers whole being, their voice, their body language,
- 2:55their spirit, it all communicates that this stuff
- 2:57matters. It's not trivial.
- 2:59It has real spiritual gravity. Got it.
- 3:01And the opposite, then, is not joy.
- 3:03That's the key distinction he makes.
- 3:06The opposite isn't being happy or joyful.
- 3:09The real opposite, the thing earnestness stands against, is
- 3:12being trivial or flippant. Frivolous, maybe overly chipper
- 3:16in a way that just doesn't fit the subject.
- 3:18Like making light of serious things.
- 3:20Exactly. Earnestness means you fully
- 3:22recognize the seriousness, the reality, the glory of the
- 3:25message, and you let that shape how you deliver it and
- 3:29importantly, how the congregation receives it.
- 3:32That makes sense. It's about authenticity to the
- 3:34message. It is.
- 3:36It demands the preacher be truly engaged with the the profound
- 3:40nature of what they're declaring.
- 3:42OK, so that clarifies the seriousness part, but you said
- 3:44joy can still be there. This brings up humor, doesn't
- 3:47it? How does humor fit in?
- 3:48Is it OK to be funny in a sermon, or does that
- 3:51automatically become flippant? It's a really common question,
- 3:54and Piper is careful here. He draws a very clear line
- 3:57between, let's say, healthy, genuine humor and something he
- 4:00calls levity. Levity.
- 4:01OK, what's the difference? Well, levity as a vice, he
- 4:05describes describes it as flippant, hollow, unreal.
- 4:09It's the kind of light heartedness that sort of trifles
- 4:11with everything. It takes really weighty subjects
- 4:14and makes them seem light. Like trying too hard to be
- 4:16funny. Yeah, we're always angling for
- 4:18that clever line, that witty turn of phrase.
- 4:21It feels calculated, maybe forced.
- 4:23And Piper argues that this kind of light heartedness actually
- 4:27diminishes the significance of truth.
- 4:30It makes eternal things seem less important.
- 4:32So it undermines the message. It can, yes.
- 4:35It risk turning the sermon into more of a performance than a
- 4:38proclamation. Right.
- 4:39So what's the alternative? Healthy humor.
- 4:41Healthy humor, he says, is totally different.
- 4:43He calls it robust laughter that grows up out of the realities of
- 4:47life. It's spontaneous, It's organic.
- 4:49It rises naturally from just observing life.
- 4:52Like Spurgeon's famous quote. Exactly, this person said a
- 4:55hearty laugh is no more levity than a hearty cry meaning real
- 4:58laughter when it's a natural response to something genuinely
- 5:02funny in life isn't a vice, it's healthy.
- 5:04It's human. Piper even says only the sick
- 5:07soul fails to laugh when something truly funny happens,
- 5:11which is a strong statement, but it makes his point.
- 5:14A healthy person isn't just serious all the time.
- 5:17They are, in his words, earnest about being joyful.
- 5:21Earnest about living fully, responding genuinely to life as
- 5:25God made it. And that includes joy, even
- 5:28laughter. So it's about being real, not
- 5:30putting on an act, whether serious or funny.
- 5:32Precisely. The challenge is cultivating
- 5:35that internal posture that just instinctively pulls back from
- 5:39triviality, but embraces real, God-given joy when it comes.
- 5:44That takes self-awareness, doesn't it?
- 5:45Absolutely. Especially in the moment.
- 5:47Yeah, that distinction is really helpful.
- 5:49Contrived humor versus genuine laughter.
- 5:51And you mentioned Spurgeon, but Piper has his own story too,
- 5:54right? The one about the little girl.
- 5:55Oh yeah, the jellyfish story. It's perfect for this.
- 5:57Tell us about it. He was.
- 5:58Preaching, making an analogy about being free like a dolphin
- 6:01versus just drifting like a jellyfish.
- 6:04And he asked this rhetorical question.
- 6:05You know, who in the world would want to be a jellyfish?
- 6:08And this little girl, maybe second or third row, just pipes
- 6:11up clear as day, full of innocence.
- 6:13I would. That's brilliant.
- 6:16And Piper says the whole place just erupted in laughter.
- 6:19And he adds, as it should, because it wasn't a plan joke.
- 6:22It was just life, a spontaneous human moment.
- 6:26It broke the tension, maybe, but not the seriousness of the
- 6:29overall point. Exactly.
- 6:30It was organic, and Piper connects this to his own
- 6:33practice. He mentions quite strikingly
- 6:36that for 32 years he never intentionally told a joke in a
- 6:39sermon. Wow, 32 years, especially
- 6:42compared to his father. Who apparently often started
- 6:45with one. But Piper isn't laying down a
- 6:47law against all humor. He's showing that for him, humor
- 6:50wasn't a strategy. It wasn't a tool for
- 6:52entertainment or to soften the blow.
- 6:54It had to be real. Had to be a real, spontaneous
- 6:56response to life, to truth itself, not some calculated
- 6:59attempt to be funny or hip. The goal always is earnestness
- 7:03about the subject matter, never diminishing the weight of God's
- 7:07word for a chief laugh. Got it.
- 7:08So protect the gravity of the message.
- 7:10Yes, and he then takes this personal approach and applies it
- 7:14more broadly. He observes a trend in preaching
- 7:17today. He says few pastors are actually
- 7:20too serious. The pendulum has swung the other
- 7:22way. That's his view.
- 7:23He sees the dominant trend moving towards a flippant,
- 7:27casual, clever, hip feel of entertainment.
- 7:30And the danger there? The core problem, he says, is
- 7:32that this style is out of sync with the subject matter of the
- 7:35Bible. And, crucially, it diminishes
- 7:39our people's capacities to discern and feel the weight.
- 7:41A glorious truth. So it actually trains
- 7:44congregations not to feel the weight.
- 7:46In a way, yes. It trains them to value
- 7:48cleverness or feeling amused over grasping the real gravity,
- 7:52the glory, the eternal significance of what's being
- 7:54said. It subtly suggests the truth
- 7:57isn't waiting up on its own. OK, that leads us right into the
- 7:59why. Why is this earnestness so
- 8:02critical? What is it about the Bible
- 8:04subject matter itself that demands this kind of serious,
- 8:07weighty disposition from the preacher?
- 8:09Piper lays out five huge, unavoidable realities that just
- 8:13inherently command earnestness. And the first one, the
- 8:16foundation for everything else, is God.
- 8:18God himself. Just the.
- 8:20Thought of God, a sheer thought of God, His Holiness, His
- 8:23Majesty, His glory, and how to make his tremble.
- 8:26Really to joke about God or be overly casual, or try to make
- 8:30him seem small and manageable. Purpose says that shows an
- 8:33obliviousness to reality. A failure to grasp who he truly.
- 8:37Is exactly He warned strongly against what he calls the
- 8:40domestication of God? Making God fit into our little
- 8:43boxes, He calls His domestication a curse on
- 8:46preaching in our day. A curse.
- 8:48Strong words. Very strong because it shrinks
- 8:51God down. It makes him seem comfortable,
- 8:53predictable, maybe less awesome in the true sense of the word.
- 8:57Instead of incomprehensible and holy.
- 8:59Right, Piper says. We desperately need to recover
- 9:02the language of majesty and holiness and awe and glory.
- 9:05Not just fancy words, but the reality behind them.
- 9:07Think about Exodus 15.11, who is like you, O Lord, Majestic and
- 9:11holiness, awesome and glorious deeds.
- 9:12Where Isaiah 6. Yes, Isaiah sees the Lord high
- 9:15and lifted up the Seraph from crying.
- 9:17Holy, holy, holy. And what's Isaiah's reaction?
- 9:19Woe is me, I am lost. That's the proper response to
- 9:23the undomesticated God. Utter awe and awareness of
- 9:26unworthiness. Yes, So what a preacher really
- 9:29gets who God is His transcendence, his power, his
- 9:33purity. That sense of solemnity, of
- 9:35earnestness just naturally follows in their preaching.
- 9:38Anything less feels like of distortion.
- 9:41It's a powerful reminder to keep God's immense nature central.
- 9:44OK, so after God, what's the second reality?
- 9:48Demanding earnestness? Sin I imagine.
- 9:51Exactly. Sin.
- 9:52And just like with God, Piper doesn't want this softened.
- 9:55He says sin is intrinsically ugly and outrageous in the
- 9:59universe. Not just a mistake, but
- 10:00outrageous. Yes, it's a cosmic rebellion
- 10:03against a holy God. And he says, to trifle with sin,
- 10:06to treat it casually, is to miss what it is.
- 10:09It's moral horror is so vast that all the physical suffering
- 10:13and agony in the world, Piper argues, serves as a kind of grim
- 10:16testimony to sin's devastating reality.
- 10:18Wow, all suffering points back to Sin's horror.
- 10:21That's the implication. Brokenness, disease, violence,
- 10:24decay. It's all an echo of that initial
- 10:26rebellion and. If that's not enough.
- 10:28If the present reality of suffering isn't enough to make
- 10:30us serious about sin, Piper points to its final penalty.
- 10:33He says this should make a shiver.
- 10:35He uses Revelation 14, doesn't he?
- 10:36He does that terrifying imagery of drinking the wine of God's
- 10:41wrath, poured full strength, being tormented with fire and
- 10:45sulfur in the presence of the Lamb, with the smoke going up
- 10:48forever and ever, having no rest day or night.
- 10:51Eternal misery. That's the phrase he uses, an
- 10:54unending conscious reality for those who remain in rebellion
- 10:58against God's holiness. That's incredibly stark.
- 11:00It is, and then he makes his critical point.
- 11:03Of all the evils we face, Satan, sickness, insanity.
- 11:07Only sin can actually damn a soul.
- 11:09Only sin leads to that final separation.
- 11:11Right. Satan temps, sickness afflicts,
- 11:14but only sin carries that ultimate eternal consequence.
- 11:17Therefore, Piper concludes, any flippancy in and around our
- 11:21preaching communicates to people that sin is not as serious as
- 11:24the Bible says it is. It actually disarms them.
- 11:26It does. It undermines their
- 11:27understanding of their need for a Savior.
- 11:29If sin isn't that bad, why do I need rescuing so desperately?
- 11:33A preacher who fails to convey the horror of sin isn't doing
- 11:36their congregation any favors. That's a heavy responsibility.
- 11:38Yeah. OK, so God's sin.
- 11:40The next logical step seems to be hell.
- 11:42How does that fit in? Hell is the third reality, Piper
- 11:46points out something striking Jesus spoke about Hell's horrors
- 11:50more than anyone else in the Bible.
- 11:52He didn't shy away from. It not at all.
- 11:54He used vivid, frankly terrifying descriptions.
- 11:57Outer darkness, separation from God's presence, weeping and
- 12:01gnashing of teeth, unimaginable regret and anguish.
- 12:04Mark 9 talks about the worm not dying, the unquenchable fire.
- 12:08Yes, and Luke 16. The rich man cries out from a
- 12:11place of torment. These aren't mild images.
- 12:13They depict conscious eternal suffering.
- 12:16In the urgency. The urgency comes from the fact
- 12:18that, as Jesus warned, many people are heading that way.
- 12:21The gate to destruction is wide, and crucially, it's the Word of
- 12:24God, the gospel proclaimed, that saves from hell.
- 12:27So the stakes are ultimate. Ultimate this reality, the
- 12:30eternal dangers so many are in, and the fact that the preached
- 12:33word is the means of rescue. This makes a preacher earnest,
- 12:37Piper says. If it doesn't, that preacher is
- 12:39basically out of touch with reality, oblivious to the
- 12:42eternal consequences, hanging in the balance.
- 12:44It certainly puts casual preaching in a different light.
- 12:47OK, God, sin, hell. Now the cross.
- 12:50How does the Cross demand this earnestness?
- 12:53The cross is the 4th reality, and it's central, isn't it?
- 12:57Piper describes Jesus's death as unspeakably horrible, and it's
- 13:01horrible on multiple levels. How so?
- 13:03First, there's the moral hideousness.
- 13:05Think about it. The perfect, pure, innocent Son
- 13:08of God being mocked, tortured, condemned by sinful humans.
- 13:12It's an outrage beyond our comprehension.
- 13:14The ultimate injustice. Yes, but then there's the
- 13:17physical horror, too. Crucifixion was designed for
- 13:20maximum pain and humiliation, Piper suggests.
- 13:22If we'd actually bend there, we'd likely have been physically
- 13:24sickened by the brutality and then overwhelmed with grief,
- 13:28seeing the suffering of the most precious person ever.
- 13:30It's hard to even imagine. It is.
- 13:32And this event, the central saving event, this brutal,
- 13:35horrific yet glorious act was the price for all we offer in
- 13:38preaching. Everything flows from the cross.
- 13:40Everything Forgiveness, eternal life, reconciliation, adoption,
- 13:43the spirit, Piper says. Virtually every benefit or hope
- 13:47we offer in preaching was obtained at this cost.
- 13:49This immense cost. This infinite cost which leads
- 13:53to his piercing question, How can any of it be trifled with?
- 13:57How can we possibly treat lightly a message purchased with
- 14:00the blood of the Son of God? To do so would devalue the
- 14:04sacrifice and diminish the hope we proclaim it.
- 14:06Would be an insult, really. Deeply so OK.
- 14:09That's powerful. God, sin, hell, the cross.
- 14:13The 5th reality you mentioned was perseverance.
- 14:15How does the ongoing Christian walk connect to the preacher's
- 14:19earnestness? How is every sermon a salvation
- 14:22sermon? This is such a crucial point,
- 14:24and maybe less obvious. It comes down to believing what
- 14:27Scripture teaches. Like in Mark 1313, the one who
- 14:30endures to the end will be saved.
- 14:32Salvation isn't just a one time decision, it includes
- 14:35persevering in faith. Continuing in faith throughout
- 14:38life. Right.
- 14:38And Piper holds that this ongoing perseverance is
- 14:41sustained by the Holy Spirit working through the Word of God
- 14:43week by week. But if that's true.
- 14:46Then every sermon is vital for that endurance.
- 14:48Exactly. Virtually every sermon is a
- 14:51salvation sermon. Not just the ones aimed at
- 14:53conversion, but every message preached to believers is crucial
- 14:57for sustaining their faith, nurturing them, guarding them,
- 15:01helping them endure. So there's no less important
- 15:04message for Christians, Piper argues.
- 15:07No, there isn't a less serious and less critical message for
- 15:11the Saints compared to the message for the lost.
- 15:13Every single sermon is crucial and critical in sustaining the
- 15:17faith of the Saints and so bringing them safely to glory.
- 15:20Wow. That raises the stakes for
- 15:22Sunday mornings. Doesn't it The eternal destiny
- 15:24of believers, their ongoing spiritual health, their final
- 15:27arrival and glory? It's all bound up with their
- 15:29continuing faith, which is fueled by the preached Word.
- 15:32So this demands great earnestness every single time
- 15:35the Word is opened. A flippant approach risks
- 15:38undermining that very perseverance.
- 15:39OK, understanding those five massive realities, God, sin,
- 15:43hell, the cross, perseverance really underscores the weight.
- 15:47Now let's look at the act of preaching itself.
- 15:49How does the simple command preach the Word carry such
- 15:52immense significance? What makes preaching so
- 15:55momentous? Well, Piper directs us to that
- 15:57incredible charge Paul gives Timothy in Second Timothy
- 15:59chapter 4 verses one and two. It's just stunning in its
- 16:02solemnity. Read it for us.
- 16:04Paul writes, I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ
- 16:07Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his
- 16:10appearing and his Kingdom preach the Word.
- 16:13Just preach the word. 3 simple words. 3 words.
- 16:16But look at the introduction, the context Paul wraps around
- 16:19that command. It's designed, Piper says, to
- 16:21make any preacher pause and feel the weight.
- 16:24OK, breakdown that introduction for us.
- 16:25He says I charge you. That's not a suggestion, it's a
- 16:28solemn command. Then where does Timothy stand?
- 16:32In the presence of God before the Almighty Creator.
- 16:35Not just the congregation. No, and also in the presence of
- 16:38Christ Jesus, the judge himself. And Paul specifies this.
- 16:43Jesus is to judge the living. Everyone currently alive.
- 16:46And the dead, Everyone who has ever lived.
- 16:49His judgment is universal and final.
- 16:51That's already overwhelming. And there's more.
- 16:54Paul adds 2 more anchors by his appearing as the second coming,
- 16:58the climax of history, and by his Kingdom, God's eternal reign
- 17:03breaking in now, fully coming then.
- 17:05So Paul links preaching to the biggest reality is imaginable.
- 17:08Exactly God's presence, final judgement, Christ's return, the
- 17:13eternal Kingdom, Piper says. Paul deliberately frames
- 17:17preaching this way to ensure we grasp its profound gravity and
- 17:21responsibility. It's not just public speaking,
- 17:24it's a divine Commission embedded in ultimate reality.
- 17:27OK, so if I'm tracking this, the significance of preaching
- 17:30doesn't come from the preacher's skill or personality.
- 17:32Primarily. No, it comes because it's tied
- 17:34directly to these huge realities and ultimately to God's own
- 17:37authority. The preacher is more like a
- 17:39messenger. You've got exactly That's a core
- 17:41principle Piper drives home. Preaching is momentous not
- 17:44because it is done by great men, but because it is tethered to a
- 17:48great book, the Bible. Tethered to the Bible.
- 17:50Its authority, its power, its life changing potential flows
- 17:54from its source, the inspired Word of God, not from the
- 17:57messenger's own abilities. The preacher is a steward, a
- 18:00herald, delivering a message that isn't his own.
- 18:03And understanding that fundamental point is what leads
- 18:06Piper to distinguish so sharply between different ways of
- 18:09approaching the pulpit. OK, let's get into that
- 18:11distinction now. Bible oriented versus
- 18:12entertainment oriented preaching.
- 18:15How does Piper describe the differences?
- 18:16Let's start with the entertainment oriented preacher.
- 18:18What does that look like? The contrast is pretty stark.
- 18:22The entertainment oriented preacher, Piper says, often
- 18:25gives the impression that their message is not tethered to an
- 18:28authoritative book, or at least not firmly.
- 18:31It feels like their own ideas. Yeah, their words seem to have a
- 18:34kind of self standing worth as interesting or fun.
- 18:37The goal feels more like being engaging or amusing in itself.
- 18:41Rather than clearly deriving authority from scripture.
- 18:45They can come across as untethered to objective
- 18:47authority. Like the Bible is just one
- 18:49source among many for illustrations or points.
- 18:52Sometimes, yes, and they often seem quite at ease talking about
- 18:57many things that are not drawn out of the Bible, maybe
- 19:00referencing pop culture heavily, or telling long personal stories
- 19:03that aren't clearly connected to explaining the text.
- 19:06It might even feel like they enjoy talking about those other
- 19:08things more. Piper suggests that can be the
- 19:11impression that they enjoy talking about other things more
- 19:15than he enjoys talking about what the Bible teaches.
- 19:18It's a subtle but significant shift in focus.
- 19:22And crucially, you don't get the strong sense that they see
- 19:25themselves standing there as the representative of God before
- 19:28God's people to deliver God's message.
- 19:31Their illustrations might wander off too.
- 19:32Right. They might be cut, sprawling,
- 19:34not tightly controlled to illuminate the biblical point.
- 19:37The overall feel tends toward that flippant, casual, clever,
- 19:41hip feel you mentioned earlier. It often prioritizes making the
- 19:44listener feel good immediately rather than focusing on deep
- 19:47spiritual formation through the text.
- 19:49OK, that paints a clear picture. Now contrast that with the Bible
- 19:52oriented preacher. What defines their approach?
- 19:55It's a fundamentally different mindset.
- 19:57The Bible oriented preacher sees himself first and foremost as
- 20:01God's representative, sent to God's people to deliver a
- 20:04message from God. Not their own message.
- 20:07Absolutely not. And this isn't arrogance.
- 20:09It's a sense of Commission. They approach the task with, as
- 20:12Piper puts it, a trembling sense of unworthy servanthood.
- 20:16Under the authority of the Bible, they feel the weight of
- 20:19it. Aware of their own limits and
- 20:21the Bible supremacy. Yes, they know deep down that
- 20:25the only way to faithfully deliver God's message is by
- 20:29being rooted in it and by saturating His sermon with God's
- 20:32own revelation in the Bible. Preparation for them means
- 20:35digging deep into the text. And that comes across in the
- 20:38sermon. It shouldn't.
- 20:39This preacher constantly tries to show the people that his
- 20:42ideas are coming from the Bible. They want you to see the
- 20:44connection, to know it's not just their opinion, It's about
- 20:47transparency. Demonstrating where the
- 20:49authority lies. Precisely, They are hesitant to
- 20:53go too far toward points that are not demonstrable from the
- 20:56Bible. There's a restraint and
- 20:58intellectual honesty. Even their stories and
- 21:01illustrations are chosen carefully, constrained and
- 21:04reined in to keep the focus squarely on what the Bible says.
- 21:07Serving the text, not the other way around.
- 21:10Exactly. This whole approach shows a deep
- 21:12sense of submission to the Bible and a conviction that the Bible
- 21:16alone has words of true and lasting significance.
- 21:19They are stewards pointing constantly back to the Word.
- 21:22That difference is huge. So what's the long term effect
- 21:25of these two styles on the people listening?
- 21:27What do people walk away with? The impact is profoundly
- 21:30different and this is really Piper's core concern.
- 21:32When people regularly sit under entertainment oriented
- 21:35preaching, they often leave feeling well entertained.
- 21:39They remember the jokes or the cool story.
- 21:41Right. But Piper's worry is that this
- 21:43subtly diminishes our people's capacities to discern and feel
- 21:47the weight of glorious truth. It trains them, maybe without
- 21:50them realizing it, to value amusement over spiritual depth,
- 21:54biblical substance, and the convicting power of God's Word.
- 21:57They learn to seek a good feeling rather than truth
- 22:00itself. That's the danger.
- 22:02They might value being pleased over being challenged or
- 22:05changed. But compare that to the impact
- 22:08of Bible oriented preaching. When people leave that kind of
- 22:11service, they walk away with a sense that the Bible is
- 22:15supremely authoritative and good news.
- 22:17They might feel less entertained, Piper says, but
- 22:20more struck at the greatness of God and the weighty strength of
- 22:24his word. Instead of amusement.
- 22:26Exactly. They're arrested by divine
- 22:28truth. Their souls feel nourished
- 22:30because they've encountered God through his Word.
- 22:33They leave with reverence, maybe conviction, understanding the
- 22:36Bible isn't just an old book, but living and active.
- 22:39So the big take away is. Piper sums it up bluntly.
- 22:42Entertainment is not what our people need, and it's not what
- 22:45the world needs either. What people are desperate for,
- 22:48whether they know it or not, is the authoritative, weighty, life
- 22:51changing truth of God proclaimed with both earnestness and
- 22:55genuine joy. This has been really clarifying,
- 22:57laying out those two different paths and the consequences.
- 23:01So as we bring this deep dive towards a close, what's the
- 23:04bottom line here for pastors today and for all of us
- 23:07listening, what should we be looking for in preaching?
- 23:10What's the posture we should hope to see?
- 23:12It really comes down to the pastor embracing what Piper
- 23:15implies is a stance of humble authority.
- 23:19It sounds like a paradox, doesn't it?
- 23:21Humble authority? How does that work?
- 23:23Well, the humility isn't shown through timidity or constant
- 23:26self deprecation, it's shown through clear, visible
- 23:30submission to the Bible. It's recognizing that the Bible
- 23:33alone has the true and lasting significance, not the preacher's
- 23:38own cleverness. So humility is Bible
- 23:40centeredness. In this context, yes.
- 23:43And the authority, interestingly, doesn't come from
- 23:45the preacher pucking themselves up or being overly assertive.
- 23:48It flows naturally when they faithfully and clearly express
- 23:50the Bible's meaning and its inherent weight.
- 23:53The authority is in the message manifested through the
- 23:55messenger. Precisely.
- 23:57The preacher becomes a clear window pointing away from
- 24:00themselves towards the Word. Their goal isn't to impress, but
- 24:04for their own words to seem frankly powerless and
- 24:08insignificant in comparison with God's Word.
- 24:11The authority flows through them because they are under its
- 24:13authority. That makes sense.
- 24:15It reframes where the focus should be.
- 24:17It does, and Piper actually concludes this whole section
- 24:19with a prayer that just perfectly captures this posture.
- 24:22It sums up everything we've been talking about.
- 24:24Can you share some of that? Yeah, he prays asking God to
- 24:28tether us to your mighty word. That's the dependence piece.
- 24:32Then he asks God to cause me and all preachers to show the people
- 24:35that our word is powerless and insignificant in comparison with
- 24:39yours. That's the humility.
- 24:41Recognizing the source. Exactly.
- 24:42He asked God to grant us to stand before our people as
- 24:45messengers sent with God's message to God's people in God's
- 24:49name, by God's spirit. That's the sense of divine
- 24:52Commission. And he prays, Grant us to
- 24:54tremble at this responsibility. There's the earnestness, the
- 24:58awareness of the weight. And then protect us from
- 25:00trifling with this holy moment before your people.
- 25:03That's the direct counter to levity and entertainment.
- 25:06Guarding against shallowness. Yes, and he finishes.
- 25:09Lord, grant these brothers to be Bible oriented, not
- 25:12entertainment oriented preachers of your word in Jesus name,
- 25:15Amen. That prayer really encapsulates
- 25:17the whole vision. Preaching is a sacred, weighty
- 25:20task, totally dependent on God in His Word, aimed at revealing
- 25:24truth and sustaining souls. What a powerful way to frame the
- 25:27calling. It emphasizes profound
- 25:29seriousness, but also, implicitly, the joy that comes
- 25:32from handling such glorious truth.
- 25:34Hashtag, tag, outro. Well, that prayer really does
- 25:36bring it all together beautifully, doesn't it?
- 25:38We've covered a lot today, unpacking Piper's call for
- 25:41earnestness in preaching, seeing how it allows for genuine joy
- 25:44but rejects trivial levity. And looking at those five huge
- 25:48realities that demand that earnestness, God himself, the
- 25:51horror of sin, the reality of hell, the infinite cost of the
- 25:54cross, and the vital importance of perseverance.
- 25:57Right. And seeing how the command to
- 25:59preach the word is tied to those ultimate realities, making the
- 26:03ACT itself momentous. Which then LED us to contrast
- 26:06the Bible oriented approach with the entertainment focused style.
- 26:10Showing how one aims to reveal God's weighty truth and the
- 26:13other risks diminishing it. Exactly.
- 26:15So as you, our listeners go through your week, maybe think
- 26:19about this, especially when you hear teaching or preaching.
- 26:22What kind of preaching is truly feeding your soul?
- 26:25What kind honors the gravity and the glory of God's Word?
- 26:29Yeah, ask yourself, how does understanding this need for
- 26:32earnestness change how you listen?
- 26:35Does it make you more discerning?
- 26:36Does it raise your expectations? Maybe not for performance, but
- 26:40for encountering God through His Word.
- 26:42How does it shape what you hope to receive?
- 26:45It's a good reflection. Are you looking simply to be
- 26:47entertained or amused for a bit? Or are you longing to be
- 26:50genuinely struck, maybe even shaken, by the greatness of God
- 26:54and the sheer weight and power of His truth found in the Bible?
- 26:57Consider the difference between those two experiences and what
- 27:00you truly hunger for. It's worth pondering.
- 27:02Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for
- 27:04joining us for this deep dive into John Piper's thoughts on
- 27:08earnest Bible centered preaching.
- 27:10Yeah, thanks for tuning in. Until next time, from the deep
- 27:14dive, keep seeking his truth.