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ABJ 3 | Why I Refuse to Be Fake for Success · ABJ

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  What's going on everybody? We are back.
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  Episode 3 of the ABJ podcast. Before I get into any of this, I
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  just want to say that I am very sorry that I have not been
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  posting more frequently. I took a couple weeks off.
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  Just be completely transparent and honest.
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  I've been working on other people's stuff more than they
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  do. I've been growing and supporting
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  other independent wrestling companies and helping them
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  launch their YouTube channels and, well, their footage out
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  there. And it's been a lot trying to go
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  back through every single show and you're good.
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  There is. No, there's not.
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  Oh, I did drink it. I'm sorry.
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  Thank you, Lily, for the waters. So I have been, I've been
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  working with that. And so please go over to WTW and
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  RWE and support their channels and watch their matches because
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  I put a lot of work into them and it would mean a lot to me.
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  And you can listen to me on commentary whether I'm good or
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  bad or whether you like it or don't like it, I don't care.
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  I have fun. But yeah, so I've been doing
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  that. And honestly, mental health
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  wise, I have I'm, I'm, I'm not great right now, which I'm
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  hoping today is going to be a good day because I'm joined for
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  the first time ever on the ABJ solo thing, not solo with my
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  buddy to kill a lot. What's going on, man?
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  Hey. What's up?
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  I wish I had a catch phrase, man.
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  Yeah, I'm not even diving into that again because there'll be a
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  Part 3 and I'm not even trying to do that.
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  We don't need anything. No, I'm You're dead to me.
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  It's all love. It's all love.
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  I don't love. It is lovely.
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  I don't really care. Hey, I'm happy to be here, yeah.
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  I'm happy you're here. That's it.
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  That's when I can for. Yeah, I'm just happy I'm.
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  Just happy to be here. So today's episode is going to
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  be why I refuse to be fake for success.
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  That's kind of the the overall theme.
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  I think we both embody this, but I think you have seen me
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  struggle probably more than anybody to retain this and still
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  try to find my own self identity and balance, being me and also
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  being within this, the industry and the art that I've chosen to
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  be in. So I'm interested maybe if you
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  can give me some insight of myself.
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  I sure. Can.
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  As all as well as give your own insight of how you've navigated
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  this. But so kind of going into it.
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  I rather blow grow slow then grow slow being myself, then
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  blow up pretending to be someone I'm not.
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  That has always been the mantra of who I am.
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  I always said from the beginning, even talking to you,
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  I'm like, I know my journey at this is going to take longer
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  than others because even when you're like you, why don't you
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  fucking tell people you're a podcaster.
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  You have access to all these wrestlers.
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  I can't believe Frog and there's so there's so much downtime that
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  you can get content. And I said I don't want to annoy
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  people with it. I want to earn that respect to
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  the locker room as one of the locker room before I even tell
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  most of them I'm even a content creator.
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  Yeah. And then like the people I
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  became really cool with or close with or I felt like I've
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  developed more friendship with, I would then tell them and then
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  be comfortable to have episodes where I felt like the episodes
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  were really good because I've built that trust first.
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  Like when I did episodes with Killian and Dust, like they were
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  more authentic because I've earned that respect with them
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  before. Just jumping in, but I'm a
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  podcaster. Would be on my podcast.
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  Well, the thing that came to mind when you said that is like,
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  you know, you don't go directly up to people and say, hey, I'm a
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  podcaster, want to do some content.
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  You're just, you build these relationships first
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  authentically, and then people just fucking love you.
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  Right? Yeah.
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  I sure hope so. The.
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  First thing that came to mind is frog sport Miles Millennium wore
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  your shirt. Yeah, during his intro that.
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  Was awesome. I love miles.
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  You know, like it means something man and, and people
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  have done that. Yeah.
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  And I think that's why I know I don't get a lot of views, but if
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  you are watching this and this is like your first time
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  experiencing me, I think that's what makes a lot of my
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  interviews in the past stand out is because they weren't like,
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  you can listen to the same interview with the same person
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  with any other person on the podcast industry, on the
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  independent wrestling scene. And I think mine are vastly
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  different, even though the questions are very similar.
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  Yeah, I think there there were times where you were like, hey,
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  you know, reach out and be on the podcast, but I feel like
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  there were quite some people, quite quite a few people that
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  were also like waiting to be asked.
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  Oh, hundred. Percent.
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  So there's a weird balance of like asking and also.
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  Like, you know what, I just found out without saying the
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  person's name because I'm probably going to have them on
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  eventually, then we're going to talk about it.
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  I had someone hate me, generally hate me because I never reached
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  out to them and they thought no, like straight up like fuck that
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  guy. I don't like ABJ, he's a piece
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  of shit. And then recently joined a
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  TikTok live and it was like, you know, I hated you forever
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  because I, I always wanted you to be the one to reach out.
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  And I felt like because you weren't reaching out to me, I
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  felt some type of entitlement And I, I, it didn't take till
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  years later for me to learn, start listening to you and
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  hearing that you actually struggle asking people.
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  And that's why you don't really reach out to a lot of people
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  because you feel like you don't want to be a burden.
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  And then once I heard that and I was like, man, I unjustly did
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  not like this guy for the longest time.
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  That's crazy. I was like, and he just randomly
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  joined it alive and said that. And I was like, dude, I
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  generally liked you as a content creator and like what you were
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  doing in the industry. Like my first show was at a show
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  that you were a part of, You know what I mean?
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  Like I respected you. Like, that's kind of crazy.
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  And that makes a lot of sense because I've always tried to
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  collab. And he was like, no.
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  Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, so I was like, oh shit,
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  that's crazy. So yeah, 100%.
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  But yeah, like success, man. It really means nothing to me if
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  I have to fake to get to get to get where I'm at.
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  Like I if you if I always said in the beginning when I was
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  making beer content or any of that kind of content.
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  If I'm the party guy who has to be black out drunk and has to be
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  that person every time. There's no longevity in this
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  because in the day you don't want to be the party animal and
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  you want to calm down and not be the screaming and yelling guy.
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  They're not taken seriously. People are tuning out because
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  you're not the monkey anymore. Yes, 100%.
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  And that's why I never really wanted to, you know, dive into
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  that. So we're going to kind of go
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  into that through a couple segments there.
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  So the first one's going to be the world we're in right now.
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  I, this is where I generally feel right now for our world.
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  I think with the world becoming more adept with people
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  pretending to be something they're not, hiding behind the
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  veil, lying, deception, I think people are getting sick of it.
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  And I think even now in the world of AII, think there's a
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  lot of people who are heavily leaning on AI to be their entire
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  personality. Like they're using AI for every
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  ounce of their content every. Like let's just use the WB right
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  now, openly using AI to make AI generated promos and AI
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  generated. That's insane.
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  Transitions between screens. They're openly using AI to write
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  their shows and just firing writers to use a free writing
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  tool. That's crazy.
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  Yes, and it's just like it's showing in their product and
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  their fans are like this doesn't feel the same anymore.
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  I scroll through TikTok every night, and maybe I'll find a
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  podcast or two where their topic is interesting, but every word
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  out of their mouth is right off a ChatGPT.
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  Yeah. And I'm just like, I can't.
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  It's like your teleprompter. So if I want to have a
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  conversation with GPT, it's on my phone.
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  Yeah, like I I can do that and it panders to you by.
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  The Way 100. Percent, you know, whatever it
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  thinks your opinion is, it gaslights the shit out of it.
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  There is no like real authentic version of AI that's going to be
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  like a person that can push back.
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  Yeah. So essentially what I do just
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  for full transparency for this podcast, I do use.
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  AI, but you use it as a tool. Yes, so, so I generate what the
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  topic I want to talk about and the things I struggle with and I
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  cuz I don't I don't have a good time when it comes to.
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  And sometimes I get a little off track with my ADHD where I want
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  to talk about something and then completely deviate away.
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  And it's not the same thing that I wasn't initially talking
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  about, especially if I have usually a guest.
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  So the solo side, it really keeps me level, but I have like
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  these are the things that bother me the most and these are what I
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  want to talk about And then AI is like, cool, I'm going to put
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  this in a thing. You should probably only dwell
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  on this for a couple minutes, but here's your bullet points
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  that you want to hit based on what you read it to me.
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  And then I use that as a tool to just keep me on track, if that
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  makes sense. So I'm just being transparent
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  with you guys as well. One of my things where I lack
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  strength is grammar and spelling so and and structure when it
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  comes to writing. So but I feel like I'm a good
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  writer and so I never let AI change my vocabulary.
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  I never let it change my voice but I do let it like spell check
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  and grammar and structure. For me, I I actually use, I know
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  this isn't really we're way off topic, but like this, I used AI
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  where I literally went on an AI thing and I've maybe this is
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  stupid and I should have done this, but like I generally
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  opened up to AI and told him who I am as a person, What are my
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  goals, what are my aspirations, what I struggle and what what my
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  brand is. And I was like, just give me a
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  synopsis of what I just told you.
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  And then it remembered that. So that when I make content, it
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  kind of makes it within the realm of who I am as my brand.
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  Yeah. So it keeps it keeps it that it
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  kind of. Yeah.
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  I asked. AI yesterday, based on
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  everything you know about me, everything we've ever talked
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  about, generate an image of what you think my ideal woman looks
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  like. It nailed it.
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  Really. Oh, yeah.
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  It's sick. Dangerous goth chick.
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  Yeah. For sure, goth, goth girls are
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  the best. All right, So like I said
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  before, I think the world is getting to a point where I think
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  people are seeking authenticity. I think people watch content now
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  or music. I think like music wise, I think
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  a lot of musicians are going to start going by the wayside.
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  Like a lot of people are starting to get called out
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  because they're like, yo, you're just playing the character of
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  what you think the cool musician is.
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  Like you're playing the character what you think the
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  full podcaster is. You're playing the character
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  what you think people would like and it's not you.
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  And people are sniffing that out.
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  And I, I'm generally hoping that that's where someone like me
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  shot. I, I just realized this whole
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  time we haven't been recording. All right, so the first half of
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  this podcast, you're going to be listening for the 1st 16 minutes
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  via the audio. Yeah.
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  Now you're actually hearing the good stuff.
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  But no, I think this is going to be, I think there's, we're going
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  to enter a world where people like, and I'm hoping this is
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  where I shine and I'm hoping within like 'cause it they
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  usually say it takes 1010 years to like blow up.
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  Like if you're going to lock in and I'm on 9, like this is year
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  9 of me doing this pretty. Consistently, it's crazy, like
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  because I I've seen the whole journey, but like when you're on
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  that journey too, it's just like you don't realize how much time
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  is passing. And I even with what I went
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  through, I never really laid off the gas.
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  No, you didn't stop at all. And and, and I feel like I
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  should be rewarded for that. You know what I mean?
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  Like, like if I'm hitting my I'm generally in nine years, like
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  consistently in for I mean, I may have taken a month off.
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  I mean, look, it's a nice idea and it's a nice metric, but
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  like, don't, don't hold yourself.
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  Too. Yeah, yeah, I definitely know.
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  But. You set yourself up for these
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  ideas of like, all right, well, this should happen, and then it
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  doesn't happen, and then you're big crash of expectations and
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  yeah, like that's happened with you.
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  Before. Yeah, absolutely.
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  You know what I mean? And it's just like moving
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  forward without expectations, but moving authentically, which
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  is like moving with your passion, talking about things
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  you want to talk about. And you know, like, people are
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  always going to vibe with that. Just like changing it from
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  Tornado Tag and all the other brands to ABJ, that was the move
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  because people vibe with you. And it's like, as long as you
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  move authentically, the right group of people naturally
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  gravitate. Yeah, So yeah, what's and social
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  media is like a performance driven base thing, you know, and
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  it's like you always generate your next metrics and you're
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  like, oh, this video blew up for me and you're like, shit, I
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  don't like the fact that that one blew up because it probably
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  in that whole idea of what I did is furthest from me.
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  And I would get like frustrated with that.
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  Like no, that's not who I want to be.
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  And I'm like, we'll lean into that.
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  That's what's getting your views.
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  Like no, fuck that. That's not who I want to be.
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  Like. And then you have you, you just
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  look at the people who are exaggerating their
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  personalities, reviews and it's like they're being rewarded for
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  it. But I'm just like, no, stick to
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  the course. Stick to the course because like
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  the people who are faking it because they just want to be the
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  quote UN quote social media person, they don't last.
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  They burn out quicker than everybody else because they're
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  burning out because they're putting more energy into being
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  the person they're not. Yeah.
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  And we we've seen it. Well, I think Jim Carrey talks
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  about this a lot when, when you're pretending to be somebody
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  you're not, like all the mental health creeps in, the
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  depression, stuff like that, because your, your body will
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  eventually start to reject that false persona.
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  And it's, it's like an infection.
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  It, it's a sickness. And there's somebody, I'm not
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  going to say their name, but you've collabed with them quite
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  a few times. And I find them to be the most
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  fake person ever. And they get a lot of reward and
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  a lot of exposure. And you know, you, you partnered
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  with them and some other people and you made your exit based off
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  integrity. Sometimes you still interact
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  with them, and that's fine. I stay cool.
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  Yeah, but like, every time I hear their voice and that fake
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  persona, I'm just like, God, where's the reality, man?
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  Yeah. And I got to turn it off because
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  I can't. I can't accept that.
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  I would have people tell me though, they're like, I tried to
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  watch a lot and it wasn't just one person, it was a few.
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  I would try to watch their content without you on it and
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  hated it but I I like watching it with you on it because you
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  challenged them. Right, if that made sense.
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  And that's true because you do, because you have original
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  opinions and ideas. Yeah, another big one is too.
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  It just kind of leans into that as well.
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  And though especially in the world of wrestling, I I stopped
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  watching and making content based on WWE because I wasn't
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  enjoying the product. I wasn't enjoying what I was
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  talking about and I was starting to get more popular hating on
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  it. And and I think a big thing
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  that's happening right now with social media and content
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  creators is drama and fake outrage and fake confidence.
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  And I just people wanting to be negative to make content like
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  like and because that's what people watch.
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  That's what the people behind the other end of this camera and
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  the other end of this lens of the what re watching this will
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  be like. Oh, they're not bringing drama.
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  I don't want to be a part of. It I'm going to tune in way
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  faster when there's something juicy to see yeah and like
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  that's me as a consumer but also me as like a creator.
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  I don't want to do that. Yeah.
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  Unless. Well, you got some good stuff
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  coming up. You got a little juicy tid.
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  So that's where it's at. Like, unless it's authentic.
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  Because when it's authentic, talking about those things that
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  may be dramatic is also therapeutic.
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  Yeah. And for the record, like your
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  podcasts, I didn't go into like I knew we talked about it
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  before. I knew that it was going to
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  generate a reaction from people. The one that we knew that was
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  going to get the reaction the. Other one doesn't avoid talking
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  about it because of that. Because it was part of our story
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  exactly. And it's not that I'm, and I
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  haven't Full disclosure, this has not aired with the I don't
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  know much about the future episode, the rebuttal episode
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  right. So I, I, I like, I don't
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  generally give a shit about any of those people that we talked
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  about. Like some of them I still
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  interact with because we have mutual friends.
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  And there's some of the people that I still, I'm in spaces with
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  because we're mutual friends. Yeah.
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  And I, I don't force myself on them.
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  I don't not because I just, I, I hate you.
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  I just, I'm just, I'm about saving my energy.
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  And if you're not interested in my energy, I'm not really
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  interested in me trying to force my energy on you.
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  So we just, we, we exist in the same space and we just go about
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  our day and it seems to work. And if there has to be a
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  situation where we look or laugh at the same thing or make a joke
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  or we're in a conversation, I'm fine with that.
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  But I don't think I'd go off to the corner and be like, hey,
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  man, like let's let's try to, we did that already.
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  You know what I mean? I tried to extend that.
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  But like with this person, I, I generally don't give a fuck
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  about what they do. Like they're not.
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  Yeah. I don't care.
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  We're not in the same space, we don't make the same content.
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  We have nothing in common in a political world.
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  We are on two different sides. 100%.
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  I don't care. I don't care.
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  Yeah, I I, but it was just part of the story of us.
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  And I think it's important to have that.
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  And you know, while while those stories.
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  The only reason it's coming up because it's a part of making
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  fake outrage right where it. Will yeah and it is but like and
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  and redirecting it to authenticity.
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  And this is yeah, you. Know because like there are,
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  there are definitely truth to the idea of there are two sides
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  to every story and probably more.
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  And it comes down to perspective.
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  And that's why me as a person has always avoided confrontation
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  until I have hard concrete evidence and facts, because I'm
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  aware that my perspective on a situation could be different.
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  And and we even personally have been in that same boat with each
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  other and eventually come to realize, OK, different
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  perspectives, but like. Yeah, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the
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  first to say that like especially more in my past than
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  ever is like I've always been kind of like not the most level
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  headed person because I let my emotions dictate my actions and
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  my mouth before I let myself just digest it and before I
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  should go and especially if I'm emotionally attached to it, I
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  will, I will, I will blow up and I will say some shit, you know
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  what I mean? Like I will nuke the world
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  before, you know, without thinking about it.
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  And I've I've grown from that. But like usually when people say
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  like, Hey, I've had to promise you in the past, I'm like this.
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  I without even you like full like, I do think if I had
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  general problem with you when we were beefing, you're not an
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  innocent person because I don't go after people if there's no
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  you know what I mean. But I also take accountability
• 18:34
  that I I probably didn't handle the situation and I it would
• 18:36
  have been better if I would have just maybe took it a breath and
• 18:38
  had a conversation with you first.
• 18:40
  You know what I mean? And I'm I'm I'm hyper aware of
• 18:42
  that of that that was my fault faults.
• 18:45
  I think another aspect shortcomings to.
• 18:50
  Authenticity is accountability, right?
• 18:52
  And so I am willing to take accountability for anything I
• 18:55
  did wrong. And if you say that I wronged
• 18:58
  you and I hear you out and I'll, I will take the beat to think
• 19:02
  about it and be like, you know what?
• 19:04
  I didn't intend to do that, sure, but I'm going to take
• 19:06
  accountability for. That I will, I will say sorry,
• 19:08
  but from my perspective, this is probably why this happened,
• 19:12
  right? And I and if and if you don't
• 19:14
  accept that, I'm sorry. Exactly.
• 19:16
  Yeah. And that's OK.
• 19:17
  You don't. It being, you know, apologetic
• 19:20
  doesn't have to come with altering who you are.
• 19:23
  Yeah, so a big thing is creators, they just, they
• 19:28
  generally copy what works instead of being themselves.
• 19:30
  They they want to trace like, oh, I made a video where I got
• 19:34
  kicked in the balls and now I'm the new Jackass guy.
• 19:37
  But I obviously my passion is model trains, but nobody gives a
• 19:40
  shit to that model train, you know what I mean?
• 19:41
  Like, and then people blow up and then try to switch up their
• 19:44
  content and then they fall short and then they go through a
• 19:48
  depression of like, oh, I tried to beat this and now I can't and
• 19:51
  now I have to revert back harder.
• 19:53
  And that's true, you know what I mean?
• 19:54
  It happens with celebrities and entertainment and social.
• 19:58
  Media people, YouTube creators all the time.
• 20:00
  I like I. I listen to like Steve O's
• 20:02
  podcast, so I hear a lot of like these people who got their
• 20:06
  success through YouTube and the trial and error of like,
• 20:09
  alright, this didn't work. So I now I tried this and like I
• 20:12
  did pranks for a while and that worked, but then that stopped
• 20:15
  working. So I transitioned into giving
• 20:17
  away money and then, you know, it's just like, alright.
• 20:20
  I filmed myself being nice to people because people wanted to
• 20:23
  see like First off, don't feel that's weird Film it.
• 20:27
  I don't give a fuck what you do. But yeah, I just it just once
• 20:30
  again like it. I I respect your content.
• 20:32
  It may it's not my style of. Content Yeah, yeah, as long as
• 20:35
  long as it's genuine you know and and your the person's really
• 20:38
  benefiting it from it rather than being a piece of your
• 20:42
  project for your views fine 'cause like I will watch that
• 20:46
  content of the kindness content and I will cry my fucking.
• 20:50
  Eye see. I watch it and I'm just like the
• 20:53
  wrestling kicks in. I'm like, this is this is all
• 20:55
  gimmick. Sometimes.
• 20:57
  I have a hard like I literally watch a movie or I will I listen
• 21:00
  to music or I consume art and I feel like I put the fucking they
• 21:04
  live glasses on and I'm sure I can just be like you're not
• 21:07
  authentic. If some of those kindness
• 21:09
  created and I know some of them are set up for sure, but if I
• 21:12
  find out that like the majority of them are I, I'm going to be
• 21:15
  crushed, you know, and I'm going to be a cynic and you know.
• 21:18
  You know who I struggle with? Who's that MCK?
• 21:21
  Why? I don't think he's authentic.
• 21:23
  I think he plays a role to. I think I think I.
• 21:25
  Think he's actually a sad boy, or I think he was.
• 21:28
  I don't think he is anymore. I think he fits into the role,
• 21:31
  will get some of the most money, Really.
• 21:33
  Yeah. That's that's how I generally.
• 21:34
  I actually had a conversation with Mike about this.
• 21:36
  No shit. But he doesn't like MGK so he's
• 21:38
  biased. No, but he but he feels the the
• 21:41
  reason he doesn't is because he also struggles with like
• 21:43
  watching him and feeling like, oh, you're like you want to be
• 21:46
  the rock star, but then you want to be a rapper, then you want to
• 21:47
  be the movie star. Like I don't think it's a bad
• 21:50
  thing to try to fit in different roles to make money and be.
• 21:52
  But I generally think like he's the embodiment.
• 21:56
  I could be wrong. I would love to hang out with
• 21:57
  him and be wrong. But like also a possibility that
• 22:00
  we all just want to be those things too.
• 22:02
  Sure. And I don't think that I'm not
• 22:05
  attacking him for that. I'm just saying when I see him
• 22:08
  in those roles, I don't think I think he's doing it for the
• 22:12
  reasons of I'm getting fame and fortune for doing it.
• 22:15
  But I don't know it just you ever you ever just meet like a
• 22:18
  wrestler and they want to be a wrestler so bad, but they're
• 22:22
  trying so hard to be the wrestler that they're not being
• 22:24
  the wrestler. They come off as more of the fan
• 22:26
  or the wannabe of the try hard or like a rock star or like just
• 22:29
  because you paint your eyes and and grow your hair long and wear
• 22:33
  cool T-shirts doesn't mean you're a rock star.
• 22:36
  You know what I'm saying? Like, I like, I just think some
• 22:39
  people fall into that trap. Yeah, no, I don't just.
• 22:42
  I mean, his music makes me feel some things man, but.
• 22:45
  I think he's good because I think commercially was, I think
• 22:47
  he has a team around him who helped make good music that like
• 22:50
  is commercially successful. I'm a little butt hurt right now
• 22:53
  about he. I guess he just dropped like a
• 22:55
  diss trap. About Youngblood.
• 22:56
  Yeah, and it's like, why would you?
• 22:58
  Well, Youngblood, well, him and Youngblood have beef because
• 23:00
  Youngblood kind of called him out for his on the on the this
• 23:02
  is he and like this and I can I Ted talk?
• 23:05
  Yeah, and, and the Osbournes kind of family were like, yeah.
• 23:09
  And he's fake as fuck. And This is why people, This is
• 23:11
  why people like people. He's jealous of you.
• 23:13
  And that's why he doesn't like you because people are
• 23:15
  gravitating to you because you're real and he's not.
• 23:17
  And Sharon said that on a podcast.
• 23:18
  And then that's when it like went off the deep end.
• 23:21
  I watch this video, Youngblood, and I, I hope I'm not wrong
• 23:24
  about him either. But like, I watched this video
• 23:26
  where this guy walked up to him and he's like, not young blood.
• 23:28
  Yeah, he's still young blood, but he's not huge.
• 23:30
  And he's like, who the fuck are you?
• 23:32
  And he's like, I'm just, he's like, First off, I don't know
• 23:34
  who you are and who and I and I don't know anything about you.
• 23:37
  He goes, that's fair. And he just like, instead of
• 23:39
  being like offended by it, he's like, that's fair.
• 23:41
  And he's like, I'm just a singer from this town and I make music
• 23:44
  and I just try to do the best I can.
• 23:46
  And he's like, what kind of music do you make?
• 23:47
  And he describes his music. I think he said, I'm the I'm
• 23:51
  this band. And this band, if they had a, if
• 23:54
  they had sex and had a baby and Justin Bieber filmed it is how
• 23:57
  we described it. I think he says, like, the
• 23:59
  Arctic Monkeys and something else having sex while Justin
• 24:01
  Bieber films it. That's my music.
• 24:03
  Yeah. And.
• 24:04
  And the guy's like, oh. And like, like he disarmed the
• 24:07
  guy because the guy came hot and hostile and, like, trying to be
• 24:12
  like, why do you think you're so much better than us?
• 24:13
  Like, setting a record, Like, we're setting your records in
• 24:16
  the store. And he immediately didn't meet
• 24:18
  the energy back and just met it back with just humbleness.
• 24:21
  And by the end of the conversation, the guy shook his
• 24:23
  hand and walked away and bought his record.
• 24:25
  And I was just like, I like that.
• 24:27
  Like that was a cool interaction.
• 24:29
  But once again, it was on camera, so it wasn't real.
• 24:31
  Who knows? Yeah.
• 24:32
  I mean, so, yeah, that's another guy.
• 24:33
  I like Youngblood, and I identify with these artists
• 24:37
  because of what seems like authenticity.
• 24:40
  Yeah, yeah. People acting louder or more
• 24:45
  extreme just to stand out. Dude this has been a big thing
• 24:47
  for my mental health. Like I watch people do this and
• 24:50
  get rewarded for it and I'm just like, and it maybe it's a little
• 24:53
  jealousy because I just wouldn't do that.
• 24:56
  Yeah. I mean, if I'm giving a
• 24:57
  microphone and I'm in a ring, I will do that If I'm, if I'm.
• 25:00
  Asking. A character if I'm asked.
• 25:02
  Well, not even just being a character if I'm asked to
• 25:04
  perform and I have to keep a crowd's energy up.
• 25:07
  Yeah, I I mean, it's it's not my favorite, but I can do it.
• 25:10
  I mean, I've gotten pretty decent at it.
• 25:12
  Like you've seen me in my hometown show.
• 25:14
  Like you've seen me the first time in High Tension where I did
• 25:17
  ring announcing. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:18
  And then see. Good.
• 25:19
  Bit rough, yeah. Seen me do it at my hometown and
• 25:23
  I'm a different person. Like just generally.
• 25:25
  And I told you this before I blacked out that show.
• 25:28
  I don't remember any spring break show.
• 25:29
  Yes. I believe it, yeah.
• 25:30
  I mentally don't. Remember any of it and I
• 25:34
  remember the main event I like was sitting there watching the
• 25:37
  main event and I just like, I think I said to you like what
• 25:42
  match are we on? And you're like, this is the
• 25:43
  main event. And I was like, I don't remember
• 25:46
  this entire show. I was like, was I good?
• 25:48
  I generally don't. I I think I even said to you
• 25:50
  like it freaked me out. I was like, I don't remember the
• 25:52
  whole show. Like I generally was.
• 25:54
  I disassociated. I don't remember any like, was I
• 25:56
  good? And you're like, yeah, you're
• 25:57
  fine. And I was like, Oh my God.
• 25:59
  And I just aren't having a panic attack because like I had lost
• 26:02
  time. Like, I don't know if you've
• 26:04
  ever lost time. Like that I have, yeah, it's.
• 26:06
  Fucking scary. But I didn't come too until like
• 26:09
  the end of the show, I guess, when my brain was realizing
• 26:12
  like, you're good, you're safe, you're done.
• 26:14
  I still have not watched the show back.
• 26:16
  I've never there's two, there's two things I've never watched
• 26:19
  back in high tension. I've never watched spring break.
• 26:22
  And if I, I I lied, I did watch it, but I skipped past my my
• 26:25
  parts. I watched the matches 'cause
• 26:27
  there was matches that I didn't want to watch back.
• 26:29
  And I still have never watched back the trios.
• 26:33
  I mean, the, the tag team championship match at, at at the
• 26:37
  Dojo. Well.
• 26:38
  You know. Yeah, 'cause you're the whole
• 26:40
  thing with your brother, yeah. All right, so the day that we.
• 26:45
  Found we joke about it now like it's still I I fucked with his
• 26:48
  brother about I'm like remember that time?
• 26:49
  The day I was reaching out to everybody to tell about Jackie
• 26:53
  being on Hospice, I, I saw that you were at a wrestling show
• 26:58
  working. And I said to Rhonda, I can't
• 27:00
  hit up him right now because this is going to be double
• 27:03
  trauma. Yeah, this is like Jared 2 point
• 27:05
  O, right? Yeah.
• 27:07
  By the way, I love you, Jared. And and and and the term.
• 27:12
  This is another one I liked here.
• 27:13
  Viral doesn't always mean real. When someone goes viral, when
• 27:16
  someone's like, man, I went viral like, and I, and I just
• 27:19
  like cool, like I, I'm like, congratulations, you, you got a
• 27:22
  viral video, But like, was it what you wanted it to be, right?
• 27:26
  Is it your art that you worked super hard?
• 27:28
  Or did you just happen to put something out that you just
• 27:31
  being fun? And then it blew up?
• 27:34
  Because that's what happens too. Anyone can go viral at any point
• 27:37
  in time. You can literally be someone
• 27:39
  who's like a I'm a single mom who every now and then makes a
• 27:42
  TikTok video. And this time I made a video of
• 27:45
  my kid sneezing and now I'm huge.
• 27:48
  And then you're like, I went viral.
• 27:50
  Now I have to chase, keep filming my kid.
• 27:53
  And then you go down a spiral where you you want to, you don't
• 27:56
  become authentic because you're chasing that high of being viral
• 28:00
  again. Just look at Hawk to a girl,
• 28:02
  Yeah, I mean. The rise and fall.
• 28:04
  The rise and almost. Immediate crash.
• 28:09
  Yeah, she went right to scamming people immediately.
• 28:11
  Oh yeah, yeah. Or someone scammed people on her
• 28:14
  behalf and maybe she wasn't fully involved it.
• 28:16
  It was crazy, 'cause who knows? Got that whole media team to try
• 28:19
  to ride this out. Actually, in my wallet I have
• 28:22
  this this card. It's it's from Charli XCX Brat
• 28:27
  movie The the moment. So Charlie XCX is a British like
• 28:33
  female pop star, OK, And she made a British, well, not a
• 28:37
  British an A-24 movie. It was like a documentary about
• 28:40
  her the moment and the moment was with her album called Brat
• 28:47
  OK. And so they came out with this
• 28:50
  like debit card. Anyway, the point of that, the
• 28:53
  whole movie, The point is she went basically viral and had
• 28:58
  this big moment with Brat. It's Brat summer.
• 29:01
  It was like the summer where this last election was
• 29:05
  happening. It was Brat summer.
• 29:06
  She said Kamala Harris is brat. It was a huge thing.
• 29:11
  But then the movie is all about trying to hold on to Brat
• 29:14
  summer. How can we make next summer Brat
• 29:16
  summer? How can we extend this all
• 29:18
  throughout the year? So it's it's it's a weird thing,
• 29:22
  but there's a movie that basically ties into that.
• 29:24
  It's called The Moment. Yeah, I, I kind of the next
• 29:31
  topic here, I kind of kind of talked about the whole time,
• 29:33
  like I like just feeling pressure and your personal
• 29:35
  experience with the pressure of being authentic, like watching
• 29:39
  other people grow and wondering if you should change and moments
• 29:42
  where you questioned your approach.
• 29:45
  I, I honestly like, I, I changed my approach a little bit, but
• 29:49
  tried to stay authentically me, but I knew I was changing to for
• 29:54
  the right wrong reasons and I tried it for a little bit and I
• 29:57
  was like, I can't do this. Like I got a fucking, I got a
• 29:59
  retreat on this because it's just not, not who I am or what I
• 30:02
  want. So I, I mean, I, I've had that,
• 30:04
  but I, I kind of talked about it a little bit.
• 30:08
  Like, do you ever think about becoming the louder person in
• 30:10
  the room? I did and I didn't like it.
• 30:12
  Did you ever hold your back, hold back your real personality?
• 30:16
  I think sometimes when it comes to like, I, I, I generally try
• 30:19
  to be authentic, but I also don't always let people in when
• 30:24
  I'm on my lows because I feel like I let a lot of people in on
• 30:28
  my lows when I was going through my divorce.
• 30:31
  And I think a lot of people weaponized it against me, right?
• 30:35
  And that sucked, especially like friends, like I remember, like
• 30:39
  I'll say his name, I don't really care.
• 30:41
  But like when Pin hat hit me up. Oh, yeah.
• 30:43
  And he, he, I screenshotted it and I was like, he literally
• 30:48
  said when you were going through your thing and you were crying
• 30:51
  on social media, we, he literally said we were in a
• 30:54
  group chat with the numerous people making fun of you.
• 30:59
  That's mature. That's nice, you know what I'm
• 31:02
  saying? And then my brain spirals of
• 31:03
  like, well, who was all in that group chat and who can I not
• 31:06
  fuck with? Because like that, that's a
• 31:08
  whole different level of hatred, right?
• 31:10
  Like you're, I'm hurting. I'm at a high.
• 31:13
  School mentality. I'm at a point where I may
• 31:17
  struggle with my suicide audiation again.
• 31:19
  Like on Moran's podcast, I openly talked about that you did
• 31:23
  and people weaponize that against me.
• 31:27
  And then here I am at a low again and in that same group of
• 31:30
  friends who've heard that, listen to that and know I'm at a
• 31:33
  low and then you're going to brag how you and your friends
• 31:37
  like were were banking on my downfall.
• 31:40
  That sucked, dude. That made me put up a wall of
• 31:43
  like, do I let people in so much more more authenticity and not
• 31:48
  do that? Like that sucked.
• 31:50
  And like, Pin Hat was someone I'd looked up to.
• 31:52
  Which is crazy because there is a guy who was like a justice
• 31:56
  warrior, yeah. I won't be a bullshit.
• 31:59
  I won't be a bully. I won't.
• 32:00
  He wasn't authentic. He wasn't as authentic as we
• 32:02
  thought. He was, right.
• 32:03
  Yeah. Or here's my my empathetic.
• 32:07
  My empathetic side comes in or he just went through a mental
• 32:10
  break because people are going through them left and right.
• 32:12
  Now there were there were moments leading up to that where
• 32:16
  we were dealing with a pretty dramatic situation and he would
• 32:21
  be seen around or trying to position himself into places to
• 32:25
  where he could hear private things what he would.
• 32:30
  That I was getting blamed for. Well, exactly.
• 32:33
  As the one being. He was very clearly trying to
• 32:36
  hear information so that he could spread it.
• 32:38
  Yeah, you know the inauthentic as it gets.
• 32:41
  Yeah. But with with, with being
• 32:45
  authentic comes having to have a certain level of strength, you
• 32:51
  know, and and I know you talk about like, do do I sacrifice my
• 32:54
  authenticity for, you know, protecting my lows?
• 32:59
  Yeah. And you can, you can, you can
• 33:01
  maybe withhold it. You don't have to tell everybody
• 33:04
  I in the world your life. Right, yeah, I mean there's
• 33:07
  definitely not I don't tell everything.
• 33:09
  I I, I, I, I I will say like in the beginning when I said hey
• 33:12
  man, I actually I'm kind of like not in a great spot.
• 33:14
  Like I'm not diving into why or how bad it is, but I'm just
• 33:18
  saying like I'm not 100% right now as a as a human, as a
• 33:21
  content trader, as as life, as financials.
• 33:25
  I mean, I've never been good financials.
• 33:27
  I've been poor forever because I'm doing this.
• 33:29
  I put all my money into into this, but it's a beautiful.
• 33:33
  Thing, but like with with that authenticity, it's OK to also
• 33:37
  have boundaries man. And that's what the strength
• 33:39
  comes from, balancing that. Yeah, totally.
• 33:44
  Why? Why didn't you go that route?
• 33:46
  So like, why, why didn't I make these decisions constantly not
• 33:50
  do that? Like because I value my
• 33:52
  authenticity. I value who I am as a person.
• 33:54
  And like, I, it, it, it is something like, and I, I feel
• 33:57
  like for a while there I was very protective of like when
• 34:01
  someone questioned it, I would get upset or like, 'cause that
• 34:05
  was nothing to people. I, I would same person, same
• 34:08
  friend, friend. I don't know who the friend
• 34:10
  group is and I I. I'm not only.
• 34:12
  Imagine I'm at a point right now where I don't care.
• 34:14
  Yeah, I generally don't care. I think it's healthy to just let
• 34:17
  it go. Yeah, and I did.
• 34:20
  And it, it, it all stems to during our podcast, one of the
• 34:24
  people who I think was a catalyst for a lot of that.
• 34:28
  But like, I did everything I can to help uplift every scene I've
• 34:32
  ever talked about, whether it's music scene, whether it's the
• 34:35
  independent film scene, whether it's the local artist scene,
• 34:38
  whether it's the independent wrestling scene.
• 34:40
  I, I have foregone so much in my purse and I'm not looking for a
• 34:44
  cookie. I'm not looking for a handout.
• 34:45
  I'm not looking for a like adulation.
• 34:48
  I'm not looking for, you know that pat on the back of like you
• 34:51
  were the like I, I joke around and I make T-shirts of like, I'm
• 34:54
  the voice of the independence. But like, I put a lot of fucking
• 34:56
  work in and, and for people to say like I, I did it for my own
• 35:00
  selfish reasons. Like no, I create a platform
• 35:02
  that I work hard to grow so I can help be a voice to help
• 35:05
  other people be seen. You know what I mean?
• 35:07
  And. I think it shows and I think
• 35:09
  people know that they do. And the real ones do.
• 35:12
  I think when when you hear the people saying that you can, you
• 35:15
  can hold that mirror right back up to them.
• 35:17
  Oh. And, and I learned through those
• 35:20
  processes of like, sit back. I remember, like I said to you,
• 35:25
  I'm like, I think I've just generally hit a breaking point
• 35:27
  where I just don't care. And I was like, it will all come
• 35:31
  back to bite them in the ass. And it does.
• 35:33
  And I said, because that's another thing too, I think with
• 35:35
  my, my ADHD X-Men superpower, I have where I can analyze a
• 35:40
  situation and be like, oh, this, this, this and this, yeah, this
• 35:44
  is, this is how it's going to end.
• 35:46
  And I'm normally not wrong. Like it's, it's my maybe
• 35:52
  spectrum. What the fuck is my mom sending
• 35:55
  me? Is that Cardi B?
• 35:58
  No, that's me with a girl filter on.
• 35:59
  I don't know why I'm sending it. To her, I would bang the shit.
• 36:02
  Out I was a good looking girl in that filter but like wanting
• 36:06
  real connection. Like I big thing too is I want
• 36:09
  real connections. I want to build a real
• 36:10
  community. I want to I don't want fake
• 36:12
  numbers. I can.
• 36:13
  People go on and pay for subscribers and because they
• 36:17
  have a high subscriber account, they get more opportunities by
• 36:19
  bigger brands and bigger people to be like I have been told by
• 36:23
  TV wrestling companies, you cannot interview your friend who
• 36:27
  is in our company because you don't have enough subscribers.
• 36:30
  Yeah. It's been told that to me.
• 36:32
  Yeah, I remember. Yeah, and then I had a guy like
• 36:35
  Speedball, Mike Bailey, say I don't give a fuck.
• 36:37
  I seen your work ethic and who you are as a person at one of my
• 36:40
  shows where you just showed up with a trunk full of equipment
• 36:43
  and did everything you possibly can to make my show look and
• 36:46
  sound better. Never even asked to get on
• 36:48
  commentary, never asked to be on camera, but offered your
• 36:50
  services to help my show better be better.
• 36:52
  He was like, fuck what my company says.
• 36:54
  I will do an interview on your podcast.
• 36:56
  Yeah. And like, that's a moment of
• 36:57
  being authentic, like showing your authenticity and matching
• 37:01
  someone who's also just as authentic because he's another
• 37:04
  one that Speedball was working his ass off or their ass off to
• 37:09
  put themselves out there to grow their brand and and get to the
• 37:13
  next level to chase their dreams.
• 37:14
  But in the process of that, realize that they knew they had
• 37:17
  clout. They knew they had eyes on them
• 37:19
  and would do shows in a bar and bring people like fucking
• 37:22
  Journey and Junie and people who are on their first or second
• 37:25
  year of wrestling to wrestle someone like him or Jordan
• 37:28
  Oliver or Marcus Mathers who are on that next level to be the
• 37:31
  next phase of wrestling and and uplift other.
• 37:35
  People, which is a beautiful thing.
• 37:36
  Loves because like loves. Growing up in the era when
• 37:41
  speedball is training or the era when a burger is training or
• 37:45
  even the people before them like you hear a lot from like maybe
• 37:49
  the wild Samoan school or other independent schools.
• 37:52
  Me in like 2004 the the even John Trotsky would tell you that
• 37:59
  the ethos in a sense of the business was more gatekeeping
• 38:05
  than. And don't be authentic.
• 38:07
  Be what you need to be to survive.
• 38:08
  Kay fave 100% so like to see people now be like alright man
• 38:12
  this student Junie, Junie's killing it and Junie kills it.
• 38:15
  Yeah, he works his fucking ass. And, and, and Mike Bailey be
• 38:19
  like, alright, listen, I'm going to give this kid a platform.
• 38:21
  We're going to we're going to shoot him to the stars, take it
• 38:24
  and run with it. And these these kids do these
• 38:27
  kids do, I mean, look at. Flying Ryan's another one.
• 38:31
  Ryan Ryan O'Neal Mike Bailey Don Freeze yeah dude, Don free.
• 38:38
  I mean, I saw and I just I want to one I want to give him AI
• 38:42
  want to give him such a big fucking hug and I want to tell
• 38:44
  him like. The epitome of humble and
• 38:47
  waiting for your moment. I just, I, I don't think he'll
• 38:51
  ever be able to fully understand how fucking proud we all are of
• 38:55
  him right now and how much we also.
• 38:59
  Under undervalued him, yeah. Straight up, yeah.
• 39:02
  I mean I I. He walked in and we're like,
• 39:05
  not, not, I'm going to be complete.
• 39:07
  Nothing about him stood out well.
• 39:09
  And, and, and it just says to like, he, he's the guy in the
• 39:12
  back of the room. He's quiet, he's humble.
• 39:15
  But when he's not being loud. You give him the moment, yeah,
• 39:18
  it takes that fucking. Moment so just to kind of what
• 39:21
  we're talking about here, so he high tension did a show in
• 39:25
  cheeseburger school and we did a filming, which was like we were
• 39:29
  filming a bunch of episodes that we're going to go out for like
• 39:32
  the next couple months and it was all filmed in one day and we
• 39:35
  had invite only people in there and we filmed for hours.
• 39:39
  It was a long day, tons of matches, tons of people putting
• 39:43
  work in, working multiple times in one show.
• 39:46
  And at the very, very end we're like, hey, there's some people
• 39:50
  who showed up who were had their gear.
• 39:52
  They weren't necessarily on the call or to be on the show, but
• 39:56
  like we'll do like a scramble match and we'll give people an
• 39:59
  opportunity to go in there and just have their moment to to do
• 40:02
  one thing. Now the fans are burnt.
• 40:05
  They've been sitting in this building all day and and this
• 40:08
  one gentleman just sat there and gave all the energy to the
• 40:12
  people in the ring, did everything they're supposed to
• 40:14
  do. They they played the role of a
• 40:15
  fan. Then they went in the back and
• 40:18
  they put their gear on and even their gear did not make them
• 40:22
  stand out like. They're, they're like a shorter,
• 40:25
  chunkier dude. Don't look athletic, don't look
• 40:28
  anything like a pro wrestler. Look a generic guy who's just
• 40:31
  trying to like a 2K character, right?
• 40:34
  And the bell rings and they show athleticism of £110 kid.
• 40:42
  They're doing front flips and four 50s and Howard cartwheels
• 40:45
  and back handsprings and Kip UPS.
• 40:47
  And I think the first thing they did was the Kip up and everyone
• 40:50
  was like what the fuck? And this room that has been
• 40:55
  there for 12 hours erupts, erupts it. 13 people, 20 people,
• 41:01
  30 people. Felt like there was 150 and we
• 41:06
  it, it revitalized the room. Like we left that show feeling
• 41:10
  like we just went to WrestleMania and and Don had the
• 41:14
  opportunity for 15 minutes to showcase what he can do and he
• 41:18
  stole the. Fucking day.
• 41:19
  I remember like during that match, everybody's reacting and
• 41:22
  I'm standing next to Skyrus and I just look over at Skyrus.
• 41:25
  I'm like. And he knew.
• 41:26
  He knew it was going to happen. Dude, the, the smile on Skyrus's
• 41:29
  face, man, he's just like, yeah, dude, this is, this is the
• 41:32
  moment. And.
• 41:33
  Talk about authenticity. There's another one Oh yeah, I'm
• 41:36
  gonna say this and I'm. I'm gonna have Skyros back on
• 41:38
  the podcast very soon. Good awesome.
• 41:40
  He reached out to me. That guy struggles to get over
• 41:45
  in the world of wrestling because he's too authentic and
• 41:49
  he has a hard time finding a character within wrestling and
• 41:53
  to 'cause he does have charisma, but he doesn't know how to his
• 41:56
  his general self is just reserved.
• 41:59
  I'll let my actions do the work. He's.
• 42:00
  Such a reserved guy. He's he.
• 42:02
  He's so honest, authentic and fucking talented, you know, and
• 42:09
  they're honestly the the only reason that we ended up
• 42:12
  switching the title is because we want I well, we, I wanted an
• 42:15
  attitude change. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 42:17
  And and you know from Mike to Mike, but.
• 42:20
  Mike to Mike, but honestly silly Mike brought do they just do
• 42:24
  they legit have beef? I don't know what it is so.
• 42:30
  Is it the personality differences?
• 42:31
  I don't know what it is. Sky Risk, I think it is.
• 42:33
  I think it's the amount of like social media, like trolling that
• 42:38
  Philly Mike does because Philly Mike hit me up one day and he's
• 42:42
  like, Sky Risk blocked me. And I was just like, I don't
• 42:47
  know what that's about. And you know, Mike's such a good
• 42:50
  guy that he's never brought that to my attention.
• 42:52
  Like we just we have our me and me and Sky Risk.
• 42:55
  Have. We have our separate friendship.
• 42:59
  We, we, you know, he's grateful for everything that I've tried
• 43:02
  to do for him and wrestling and I'm grateful for everything he's
• 43:04
  done. But, you know, we, we have a
• 43:06
  little friendship outside of that, you know?
• 43:09
  I will say this, I I've seen rivalries with Skyros and and
• 43:13
  Sean Carr. I've seen rivalries with Skyros
• 43:15
  and a lot of people. I love the Mike Skyros Mikey
• 43:19
  Mike Philly Mike story. It's it's awesome.
• 43:22
  I think their differences, like I think more personality has
• 43:27
  come out of Mike Skyros in the high tension run with Philly
• 43:31
  Mike than I've ever seen in this whole run.
• 43:34
  That's fair. And I and I think the, the fact
• 43:36
  that possibly he, they don't, there's a disconnect there, but
• 43:39
  I would, I would explore that again because I think they make
• 43:42
  beautiful magic. So they're they're the idea that
• 43:44
  I had. I mean, obviously everything's
• 43:46
  been halted, right? Yeah.
• 43:47
  But I did want to keep keep going with Philly, Mike.
• 43:50
  'Cause I think they're both authentic people in their own
• 43:53
  way. Do you think their own way?
• 43:55
  I would never say Philly Mike's inauthentic.
• 43:57
  Not at all. And he's, he needs to become
• 44:00
  like, he's still a fucking troll, but he's also like the
• 44:03
  sweetest, like good guy. He's the same.
• 44:06
  He's a dude that you can generally have a, a fucking real
• 44:08
  conversation 'cause even me, dude, I was going through hard
• 44:10
  times, man. I was struggling.
• 44:12
  And Philly Mike's like, bro, like you're good.
• 44:13
  Keep doing what you're doing. I respect you.
• 44:15
  And I was like, I appreciate that.
• 44:16
  Like I, I love Philly Mike. I haven't see, I, they're
• 44:20
  beautiful. Like they're beautiful.
• 44:21
  They're beautiful people. And I'm really glad they found
• 44:23
  each other. Man, yeah, I do too.
• 44:25
  I love, I love them. But yeah, I wanted to, I wanted
• 44:29
  to bring it back around eventually to bring Skyrus to be
• 44:32
  not only the first champ of the first two time champ.
• 44:36
  Don't know how I would have gotten there, but that that
• 44:38
  still would love to be an idea that I explore one day.
• 44:42
  Well, we touched a little bit on the burnout aspect of this too,
• 44:44
  of just constant performance and mental exhaustion of trying to
• 44:47
  be something you're not or chasing something or should you
• 44:49
  change and all of that. And I've been through there and
• 44:51
  I'm kind of at the point now where I don't, that's not, I
• 44:53
  mean, I still go through burnout and exhaustion, but not, that's
• 44:55
  not because of the authenticity aspect.
• 44:58
  I, I've, I've pretty much locked in that like, I know that what
• 45:02
  it's going to, like I, I've met. So let's say I have 1000
• 45:07
  subscribers. I have 100 people who generally
• 45:09
  watch my content that I can have a conversation with.
• 45:12
  And I know everything about them and they're my community and I
• 45:14
  generally like, love them as people.
• 45:16
  And that does, you don't get that when you're trying to play
• 45:18
  a character, are you, you know what I mean?
• 45:20
  Like you just don't have that same experience.
• 45:22
  That at all? I do respect a good character
• 45:24
  though, like when someone like in especially the world of
• 45:26
  wrestling, when someone creates a character and they method act
• 45:29
  and they do that, I respect the fuck out of it.
• 45:30
  I've always loved the idea of playing a character in
• 45:33
  wrestling. I just want.
• 45:35
  I just want to get a confused that like I think if you're
• 45:37
  being fake or playing a character or if that's your
• 45:39
  niche within the world of content, I'm not down.
• 45:43
  Like I'm not saying what you're doing is wrong.
• 45:45
  I'm not saying what you're doing is not, I'm just saying it's not
• 45:47
  for me. That's fair.
• 45:48
  I mean, there's, I think, people.
• 45:50
  I think there's people who put a lot of hard work into being that
• 45:53
  character and there's a lot of sacrifice that you have to make
• 45:57
  being the character as well as like they're each side of the
• 46:01
  coin has its own fucking positives and.
• 46:04
  And negative people, when people play a character, the danger is
• 46:08
  getting lost, getting your true identity lost within that
• 46:11
  character and losing yourself. And I think what that's where a
• 46:14
  lot of people's burnout comes from and depression and all
• 46:18
  sorts of stuff like that. I personally, I love playing a
• 46:22
  character and then I love separating that character from
• 46:25
  me and also having like a public persona that is just me.
• 46:28
  Yeah. But here here's here's where
• 46:30
  that has a caveat though. So you play a character and say
• 46:34
  your character has views that maybe don't align with your
• 46:39
  morality, or you leaned into something on a political scale
• 46:43
  or a morality level, and now your whole fan base.
• 46:47
  Turns on you. No, is that aspect, and that's
• 46:50
  not who you are morally. Well, yeah, and that's why I
• 46:53
  personally. You know how many contact are
• 46:55
  going through that right now, I believe.
• 46:56
  It a lot Theo von right now. Theo Von Yeah, that whole we're
• 47:00
  gonna have the president on our podcast and then.
• 47:03
  Yeah, he's just like, yeah, kind of like liberal, but I'm like,
• 47:07
  I'm not either side, really. Yeah, and now you're trying to
• 47:09
  backtrack. But now your whole fan base went
• 47:11
  to you because you were you. You chose that side.
• 47:14
  And now the liberal side doesn't want to hear your side anymore.
• 47:17
  I don't doesn't want to support you.
• 47:18
  And the right now doesn't want to support you because you're
• 47:20
  now saying that you don't support what you stood for 100%
• 47:23
  and it's now you fucked yourself as a content creator.
• 47:26
  Yeah. You back yourself into a wall by
• 47:29
  being inauthentic. And, and here's the thing, you
• 47:31
  can have the president on your podcast, sure, but stay who you
• 47:35
  are and ask the fucking hard questions because the, the, the
• 47:38
  whole idea. Zach Galifianakis said this
• 47:40
  beautifully. Did you see the Zach
• 47:41
  Galifianakis clip on this? I heard where he's like comedy,
• 47:45
  as a comedian, you're a gesture and the gesture never sides with
• 47:49
  the king, right? Your, your, your job is to
• 47:52
  challenge the king. And, and when so I don't know.
• 47:56
  I never understood when a comedian is trying to buddy up
• 47:59
  with someone on the top, when your job is to question that as
• 48:02
  a comedian, you're, you're, you're here to make fun of and,
• 48:05
  and and laugh at the establishment.
• 48:07
  You're going into the job as a gesture, knowing the fact that
• 48:11
  you may be beheaded because you're doing it.
• 48:13
  Right. Well, as you find out that like,
• 48:15
  you're not really there for the purity of comedy, you're there
• 48:19
  for the views and the money. Yeah.
• 48:22
  And and the popularity and that's tough.
• 48:24
  That's really. Tough.
• 48:25
  Then you lose it because like that's, that is the problem.
• 48:27
  One of the reasons that I'm very indifferent is because I, I am
• 48:31
  able to see two sides of things. And I'm the perspectives thing,
• 48:35
  I'm going to dip into that again because I can have friends who
• 48:38
  are Republicans and Democrats. I've I've switched myself.
• 48:42
  Like when George Bush was president, like when it was him
• 48:46
  or John Kerry, I was George Bush.
• 48:48
  But when you bring Obama, I'm Obama because I understand that
• 48:52
  somebody's character says a lot more about.
• 48:54
  The I don't mind Republicans. I don't like MAGA.
• 48:56
  No, 100%, absolutely. That's my line, yeah, yeah.
• 48:59
  But like, you know, some people don't know the difference.
• 49:02
  I mean, when, when, when McCain and Obama debated, it was a
• 49:05
  beautiful thing. They didn't make fun of each
• 49:08
  other's wives, you know what I mean?
• 49:10
  Like, like it it, it just, it turned into Jerry Springer.
• 49:12
  There used to be a level of respect and dignity within the
• 49:15
  politics, or at least publicly facing respect and dignity.
• 49:20
  So I have all my notes here and we've kind of just essentially
• 49:23
  have done them all just by having natural conversation, to
• 49:25
  be completely honest. So I I I mean, we talked about
• 49:28
  it IIA lot of it, but I what another thing I want to do is is
• 49:30
  there anything else? Like I don't want to say like
• 49:32
  make it about me, but like watching my journey is like you
• 49:36
  said you had some questions or things you wanted to bring up
• 49:37
  that is there anything that we didn't cover?
• 49:40
  That we've, we've kind of gone there.
• 49:42
  Like I said, there's that one person you've worked with who I
• 49:44
  find to be very inauthentic, yet he reaps a lot of rewards.
• 49:48
  Now. I don't know if they're buying
• 49:50
  views. I assume they did.
• 49:52
  I don't know if you know. I never confront, I never asked
• 49:55
  them about it, but they're. When I when I look at their
• 49:58
  views versus their subscribership, it's the math
• 50:01
  doesn't work, Yeah. But they also they do a thing
• 50:06
  that a lot of other content creators do is where they go to
• 50:08
  big spaces and their then their bit is while they're in the
• 50:12
  spaces is like, here's my business card, scan it and
• 50:14
  subscribe to me in front of me. And this is.
• 50:17
  A bit we tried to do. And, and, and when you do that,
• 50:21
  if you're willing to put the work in, you can get 1000
• 50:23
  subscribers that day, right? Yeah, Yeah.
• 50:26
  So you're going to have the subscriber count, but are they
• 50:28
  generally going to go TuneIn? Right.
• 50:30
  And that was my philosophy. When we sent you guys to Icons
• 50:33
  to try to draw ticket sales, were we going to draw ticket
• 50:36
  sales? We did a few.
• 50:37
  Absolutely. We did.
• 50:38
  We did a few. You know, are those going to be
• 50:40
  retained fans? Not necessarily.
• 50:42
  That was our job. So do you want to?
• 50:45
  I'll talk about that day real quick.
• 50:46
  That day. I struggled with my authenticity
• 50:48
  that day. Oh, because of icons.
• 50:51
  Because around that time is when I found out the truth behind
• 50:55
  icons. So I knew a little bit about it
• 50:58
  and I, you know, there was the silent partner, but we knew.
• 51:08
  Here's my thing. I knew that the silent partner
• 51:12
  was there, but then the person who was running it, if you I'm
• 51:17
  I'll just I'll say what I'll say names.
• 51:19
  If you go back and watch the video when that when that person
• 51:22
  gets caught on camera. There's also somebody else with
• 51:25
  that same name. You showed me that.
• 51:26
  They they they don't call him by his name.
• 51:29
  They call him by his other, by his friend's name.
• 51:32
  Yeah. And when then he retreats to the
• 51:33
  car to escape, to flee the scene, that person's in the
• 51:37
  front seat. Yeah.
• 51:38
  So he's never been questioned or commented, but the footage is
• 51:42
  there and if you put two and two together you get 4 and they were
• 51:47
  both there that day for the same exact reason.
• 51:49
  Yeah. So like ever since that, ever
• 51:51
  since I learned that ever since that day, we've never been back
• 51:54
  or tried to be back. I've never associated or tried
• 51:56
  to work with them again out of respect that day because.
• 51:59
  There's a lot of cool people I want to go there and content
• 52:01
  creators of people I want to support and stuff, but it's just
• 52:03
  like I can't. I can't go to those shows.
• 52:05
  Yeah, I had to learn to not judge other people if they take
• 52:08
  a booking off that. Yeah, well, you still need to,
• 52:16
  especially wrestlers, they need to pursue whatever is going to
• 52:20
  push them. You know, there's a lot of hard
• 52:22
  work that is only going to pay off by being at certain places
• 52:25
  at certain times. Yeah.
• 52:26
  You know, so I'm. I'm not mad.
• 52:27
  I mean, I thought even the whole thing that somebody else that we
• 52:34
  both have worked with in the past was championing the
• 52:37
  champion. Championing.
• 52:39
  Yeah, this idea of not working at an auction house that had a.
• 52:46
  Swastika. Swastika hanging a or a flag
• 52:49
  with a swastika on it, a Nazi flag hanging in it.
• 52:53
  But like also it's an auction house that sells and auctions
• 52:57
  historical items. Yeah, the problem with that one
• 53:00
  though, and I will defend them on this.
• 53:01
  One, they hesitated to take it down.
• 53:02
  Not they didn't just hesitate to take it down when questioned why
• 53:06
  they they came up with that rebuttal, which is good answer,
• 53:09
  but then they doubled down and said, if you thought that was
• 53:11
  offensive, wait, do you see what me and my friends shirts say?
• 53:14
  So they leaned into like, well, we're free speech.
• 53:16
  We could do it and say we want sure.
• 53:18
  So they kind of leaned into the Nazi flag and like, we could be
• 53:22
  worse, right? Yeah.
• 53:24
  And I understand people having issues with that, but like, do
• 53:28
  you know how hard it is to find a damn venue in Pro?
• 53:31
  Wrestling, you know how hard it is for me not to go to that show
• 53:33
  because it was the only at the time was the only show in School
• 53:36
  County that was doing wrestling. Yeah, I believe it.
• 53:39
  Man, that was tough. Yeah.
• 53:40
  Especially when you're being invited there to make content.
• 53:42
  And I was like, I can't, can't do it because he hates me now.
• 53:46
  I actually tried to reach out to him and send him a message.
• 53:49
  Yeah, I love the guy. I, I, I credit a lot of my skill
• 53:53
  and credit and what I did on commentary and learning a lot
• 53:56
  and, and just, I had a lot of really good conversations with
• 53:58
  that person. I just, I didn't like, I'm sorry
• 54:01
  to cut you off, you're good. I didn't like.
• 54:04
  I understand the apprehension of working at a place that does
• 54:08
  that. I didn't like the virtue
• 54:11
  signalling and the I'm going to out every single person who's
• 54:15
  going to try to do that because why are you that person?
• 54:18
  Yeah, why do you have to be that guy?
• 54:20
  You know, and I feel like this is attention seeking.
• 54:23
  This is this is your personality.
• 54:25
  And eventually people are going to get sick of you, which I did
• 54:28
  almost exclusively for. A lot of people, a lot of people
• 54:31
  did. And I'm I kind of was in the
• 54:33
  same boat with him. Like me and him, we're both very
• 54:35
  virtual seeking and and like we won't.
• 54:37
  I lost probably my biggest payday in Jersey because I was
• 54:40
  like, I'm not working with this. But also the dude that I said
• 54:42
  I'm not working with was bringing someone around who was
• 54:44
  generally essentially sexually harassing a friend of ours via
• 54:48
  the Internet. Oh yeah, no.
• 54:49
  And I was like. That guy's a piece of shit.
• 54:51
  Won't. Be there because.
• 54:53
  Well see, I respected you removing yourself.
• 54:56
  Well, I was also removed because I thought I was I the guy.
• 55:00
  The kid then called me a pussy and said I was this and said I
• 55:03
  was that. And then I said cool, I'm booked
• 55:06
  next month. You're booked next month.
• 55:07
  We'll go outside and talk about it.
• 55:09
  And then when that was brought up, they're like, hey, don't
• 55:12
  show up. Right.
• 55:14
  Well, that that guy is also using any bit of clout he can
• 55:18
  get to draw attention to. Him he's also doing he's he's
• 55:21
  rage baiting people to get attention.
• 55:22
  That's that's his whole gimmick. Yeah, that's exactly.
• 55:24
  And I fell for it like an idiot. But yeah, man, then they fired
• 55:29
  Pete. Oops, I love him.
• 55:33
  I like I respect him. I know you're you have to.
• 55:36
  I know he thinks that me and you conspired to get him fired, but
• 55:39
  like. He did it to himself, man.
• 55:41
  But the furthest thing from the truth I never once told you.
• 55:43
  If anything, I was telling you like yo, I want to work with
• 55:46
  Pete, keep him there so I can come in and work with him too.
• 55:48
  I never fired him he just stopped showing up to bookings
• 55:52
  like because he took other bookings over ours which is like
• 55:54
  fine we were drew like 14 and people at that time I didn't
• 55:57
  care but. I mean, now that's on camera, I
• 55:59
  was championing for I I I know you were.
• 56:01
  Yeah, I never once, like once again, I think that in a circle
• 56:06
  of people were making you the villain via via me the villain,
• 56:10
  and they were telling him bullshit.
• 56:12
  I my thing is for me personally. I generally.
• 56:15
  Miss the parts that turned me off were when he was supposed to
• 56:19
  show up to do work and the work took a back seat so that he
• 56:25
  could do his own social media thing.
• 56:27
  Well, there was that. Well, can we, can we, can I be
• 56:29
  honest about that? This, then this is probably
• 56:31
  going to get me shit and hate. He was trying to replicate the,
• 56:35
  the, the company that was coming in and taking his work.
• 56:40
  Like, I'm not trying to be a Dick.
• 56:43
  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm genuinely dreading saying this because
• 56:46
  it's going to cause issues. But like the 57-O experience
• 56:49
  showed up, I'm not saying this 'cause I don't like them.
• 56:52
  I'm not saying this 'cause I have beef.
• 56:54
  I'm not saying this 'cause I don't like them as humans.
• 56:56
  But when Pete is putting the work in to be a commentary
• 56:59
  person and putting all the work in for the post production to be
• 57:02
  done so commentary could be heard and all of the matches are
• 57:05
  getting thousands of views and being put out before the
• 57:08
  commentary is even being laid down on it.
• 57:10
  He's sitting back on why the fuck am I doing commentary when
• 57:13
  I could just walk around the ring and do what they're doing
• 57:15
  and get views and grow. OK, I get that.
• 57:17
  I I. So he's pivoting to try to get
• 57:20
  the views. That also makes sense is why he
• 57:23
  was hating me because I wasn't pushing out that.
• 57:26
  And you were taking the you were taking too long to get the the
• 57:29
  commentary out. But also I was burnt the fuck
• 57:31
  out. Exactly.
• 57:32
  I was doing, there was a lot of miscommunication and I was
• 57:34
  trying to bridge that. I even offered I didn't like
• 57:39
  that team of people. Not the 57-O team, the team at
• 57:42
  Smash. I'll be honest, there's no love
• 57:44
  loss. Me and Ross don't get along.
• 57:46
  We don't like each other, whatever it may be.
• 57:48
  I understand I was offering, even though he fucking hated me,
• 57:52
  to take the workload off you so the commentary can get out.
• 57:54
  So because I knew how much it meant for Pete to be done.
• 57:57
  Am I wrong or am I? No, I mean, that's true.
• 58:00
  And, and, and you ran it by people and they said no, we'd
• 58:02
  rather you just do it. Which I understand took a long
• 58:07
  time. Yes but also who went back and
• 58:10
  fucking clipped every single fucking high tension and smash
• 58:15
  show so clips can get out four P?
• 58:18
  That's that's I didn't know that that was the reason, but that
• 58:22
  makes sense. But who did that?
• 58:23
  I know you did that. Exactly.
• 58:24
  But like, but that's what I'm saying.
• 58:25
  Like. But then he was told that I was
• 58:27
  sabotaging him, which is so further from the truth.
• 58:30
  And and like, once again, I'm not shitting on the 570
• 58:32
  experience, but they also, I don't think they're aware of
• 58:36
  like when you're doing your footage, I know you're getting a
• 58:38
  lot of views and you're growing your brand.
• 58:40
  But like when you're working for a company who's putting the work
• 58:43
  in to have a vision of what they want that what they want their
• 58:47
  company to be perceived at with lower thirds and commentary team
• 58:51
  and camera cuts and this and that, You erase that by taking
• 58:55
  that footage and posting it online for your own status of
• 58:59
  your own personal gain. I think there's like a
• 59:01
  breakdown. I'm going to play devil's
• 59:04
  advocate in their views and their mentality and in their
• 59:08
  company mantra. They're doing it because they've
• 59:11
  been told by so many of the boys taking a shot at you.
• 59:16
  It took too long for them to get their footage.
• 59:18
  So they were doing they were created to be the Ant the the
• 59:21
  anti production because the boys wanted their footage so they can
• 59:24
  put their footage out. But there is a process to
• 59:27
  production. It's not just slapping your logo
• 59:29
  on the top bottom corner, hitting send, and then just
• 59:32
  posting it. So also like to to in their
• 59:35
  favor, there's a, a divide between creating an entire show
• 59:43
  to consume, which is my thing, and the mentality of getting the
• 59:50
  content out there as quickly and fast as possible so that it can
• 59:54
  be consumed because as soon as it gets out there, now you're as
• 1:00:00
  soon as that content. Gets out there or if it's
• 1:00:04
  delayed that like for some reason it might not have its
• 1:00:08
  chance to be seen. You know what I mean?
• 1:00:10
  It's this instant gratification thing that people are obsessed
• 1:00:14
  with with social media. And it's like every time you see
• 1:00:18
  a news story, if that once, once we stop talking about one thing,
• 1:00:22
  the next week, we've already forgot about that last thing.
• 1:00:25
  It's a struggle. So I I think that's also the
• 1:00:27
  philosophy of the content. So like, just because that
• 1:00:30
  philosophy wasn't my philosophy doesn't mean that like I dislike
• 1:00:34
  what they're doing. It just didn't vibe with what I
• 1:00:37
  was creating, which made me also feel less and this is maybe also
• 1:00:43
  like Pete feel less inclined to rush my process or, you know,
• 1:00:49
  sacrifice my day or two off to rush that process along, you
• 1:00:55
  know, because I'm like, yeah, the footage are already out
• 1:00:57
  there. What am I doing exactly?
• 1:00:59
  You know, And that's no, that's no hate on anybody in along that
• 1:01:03
  process or on that team. For me, it's just like it just
• 1:01:07
  further pushed me to do less, yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah, this is a good conversation.
• 1:01:13
  I know, I know. It's, it's still based in the
• 1:01:15
  realm of content creating and authenticity.
• 1:01:19
  But honestly, I think this is a good conversation because if
• 1:01:21
  people don't do listen to this, they would be like, oh, there
• 1:01:23
  was a there was a disconnect there.
• 1:01:24
  This is why I like chatting with you.
• 1:01:25
  We should do this more often. No, I'm down.
• 1:01:27
  I'm down to do more often. What if we do this like every
• 1:01:29
  Sunday? We just chat.
• 1:01:30
  We. Report Sundays.
• 1:01:32
  Every. Maybe like once a month.
• 1:01:33
  All right, I'm down. You know, to start.
• 1:01:36
  Well, here I'll give you kind of a rundown.
• 1:01:38
  Actually, I don't know how long it's going to take me.
• 1:01:39
  To, but just just to, you know, put a recap because there have
• 1:01:42
  been moments and, and this comes down to authenticity where like
• 1:01:46
  I've played a character with the people in the 57-O group and
• 1:01:50
  some, some of the people over it, like Smash.
• 1:01:54
  And we we had planned to play this like a character where I
• 1:01:57
  was going to be like, I was going to lash out at them for
• 1:02:00
  certain, like semi shoot things, but then eventually have my come
• 1:02:06
  to Jesus moment with them. And then we shot on each other
• 1:02:10
  online for a little bit. And then it got to the point
• 1:02:12
  where like I couldn't run shows anymore and we never got to like
• 1:02:15
  fulfill those things. So it just looks like we had
• 1:02:17
  this beef that we didn't. Yeah, I, I.
• 1:02:19
  You know, as people, I think we all have the best intentions and
• 1:02:23
  the love for the business and are in different approaches.
• 1:02:27
  Totally agree. I, I, I don't, I think their
• 1:02:31
  business model isn't great for a company's growth when they're
• 1:02:34
  trying to grow on their own. I think it's great for their
• 1:02:36
  growth as someone who has learned from the production side
• 1:02:41
  of how difficult it is to do editing on just two camera cuts,
• 1:02:45
  the hard Cam and a roving Cam, and then add the commentary on
• 1:02:48
  it and sync everything up it it's very time consuming and
• 1:02:51
  it's it's a lot of fucking. Work.
• 1:02:52
  You're spending at least a day just offloading and syncing.
• 1:02:56
  Yes yeah 100% it's a whole day offloading and then a whole day
• 1:02:58
  syncing and then a whole day re watching the entire show making.
• 1:03:02
  Your cuts and then re watching it back another day for
• 1:03:04
  processing and the. Cameras are all set the same.
• 1:03:07
  Oh my God. And it's a whole thing.
• 1:03:08
  But tell Yeah, so when? So for a while there I was just
• 1:03:12
  like, I wasn't a bitter, but I was like, bro, it's it it really
• 1:03:15
  you, you threw the footage in, you cut out the beginning, you
• 1:03:19
  cut out the end, you slapped your logo on the bottom corner
• 1:03:21
  and then you put it out. But like that doesn't help the
• 1:03:23
  company you're filming that forget any exposure.
• 1:03:26
  Like no one's subscribing to the YouTube channel.
• 1:03:27
  They're all like the fans have learned now to go to your
• 1:03:31
  website to watch the show. And some of them, you were doing
• 1:03:33
  it so quickly. The fans were like, I don't even
• 1:03:36
  need to pay for a ticket 'cause I know the whole show's up the
• 1:03:37
  next day. That so that's another reason
• 1:03:40
  that I don't like streaming content, because there was a
• 1:03:45
  point where people were asking me like, hey, can we go live?
• 1:03:47
  And I'm like, that's great, but what about your ticket sales?
• 1:03:50
  You want to go live free to YouTube or live free to
• 1:03:52
  Facebook? You're not selling any tickets.
• 1:03:55
  When we would do that at Camp Leapfrog, we would go live for
• 1:03:59
  free as a benefit for like some sort of charity and then do a
• 1:04:04
  fundraising Dr. Yeah, you know, did that make us any money?
• 1:04:08
  No. But like, at least it wasn't for
• 1:04:10
  nothing. Yeah, it was.
• 1:04:11
  There was more of a, a, a growth there.
• 1:04:13
  I just gotta get a little closer.
• 1:04:15
  So here's what we got for the upcoming stuff.
• 1:04:17
  The next episode's gonna be Wish Things I Wish I Knew in my 20s,
• 1:04:21
  being the weird kid slash outsider.
• 1:04:24
  The truth about intrusive intrusive thoughts, small
• 1:04:27
  creator problems that nobody talks about.
• 1:04:30
  Nobody owes you support. I like that one a lot.
• 1:04:33
  I can't wait to do that episode. Why?
• 1:04:34
  I'm building the cult of ABJ and running my first music festival
• 1:04:38
  slash event. Yeah, that's the first 10.
• 1:04:41
  And the next ones are going to be the difference between fame
• 1:04:43
  and respect. How rejection changed me.
• 1:04:46
  How humor became my coping mechanism.
• 1:04:48
  OK, I'll be I'll join on that one.
• 1:04:50
  How human became a coping mechanism.
• 1:04:51
  That's my whole life, man. Learning to love yourself.
• 1:04:54
  Why? Why confidence took me so long
• 1:04:56
  to build. The battle between ego and
• 1:04:58
  insecurity. How I stopped how how I learned
• 1:05:01
  to stop caring. What people think took forever.
• 1:05:04
  I'm still kind of there, but it's hard.
• 1:05:05
  Why am I? Why I overthink everything.
• 1:05:08
  The fear of not living up to my potential.
• 1:05:10
  And then once I kind of get those like me type episodes that
• 1:05:15
  kind of get that out there, then it gets in the wild of horror,
• 1:05:18
  pop culture, pop culture, pro wrestling fans, the beauty of
• 1:05:21
  craft beer, conspiracy theories that fascinate me.
• 1:05:24
  Then I'm like, it becomes more of a weekly episode of like,
• 1:05:27
  hey, we're going to talk about this or that.
• 1:05:29
  Or a lot of like getting to really know you and then let's
• 1:05:33
  have some fun. Yeah.
• 1:05:34
  And then if there's like, hey, there's something going on
• 1:05:37
  socially that I want to talk about or the the world or the
• 1:05:40
  climate or stuff like this, then I would love to have you know,
• 1:05:43
  but I don't want to say this is open for everybody.
• 1:05:46
  So if you're watching this, like when can I get on that solo?
• 1:05:48
  You probably can't. I'm going to be honest.
• 1:05:51
  You can come on five question with ABJ and I'll extend them a
• 1:05:53
  little bit and we have more of a conversation and maybe turn a 15
• 1:05:56
  minute ABJ into like a 35 minute episode of ABJ.
• 1:05:59
  Sammy Chaos is great at that. We did that.
• 1:06:01
  I did that with her and ruthless Lala has 1 coming out.
• 1:06:03
  That's a little bit God, I love her.
• 1:06:05
  But the connection was so bad. So we couldn't bounce back and
• 1:06:07
  forth. It sucked.
• 1:06:08
  We're going to run it back though, but yes, but I'm going
• 1:06:13
  to be honest, this this is going to be pretty much you're going
• 1:06:15
  to just probably pretty much only see you here and we'll
• 1:06:19
  close out real quick with it. Have you, because we're both in
• 1:06:22
  a popcorn. Have you seen anything recently
• 1:06:24
  or watched or listened to anything that like tickled your
• 1:06:27
  fancy? I.
• 1:06:27
  Didn't love Super Mario Galaxy? Really, I fell asleep twice only
• 1:06:31
  because the theater was so fucking cold and I was
• 1:06:34
  exhausted, but from what I've seen I really enjoyed.
• 1:06:37
  OK, Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
• 1:06:39
  It just it wasn't really hitting for me.
• 1:06:41
  I fell asleep. I first watched through, then I
• 1:06:44
  gave it another shot and it was like it was OK.
• 1:06:46
  I felt like the first movie was better.
• 1:06:48
  But Star Fox. Cool.
• 1:06:50
  Yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah, he wants to get his own video game, too.
• 1:06:53
  Oh, I saw a new game trailer. I seen Begonia.
• 1:06:57
  Oh, that was awesome. That was a cool movie.
• 1:06:59
  A really cool movie. Did you?
• 1:07:01
  Did you guess it? Yeah, I'm.
• 1:07:04
  I'm bad, dude. I'm really bad.
• 1:07:06
  It's not that I guessed it, but it was the ending I wanted.
• 1:07:09
  That's exactly what I said, Yeah.
• 1:07:11
  So when we were watching it, I was like, Lily, I want to say
• 1:07:13
  something, but if I'm fucking right, I'm going to be really
• 1:07:15
  mad at myself that I'm going to fuck this up for you.
• 1:07:18
  And she's like, what? And I was like, I'm not going to
• 1:07:19
  say nothing. And she's like, what?
• 1:07:21
  And I was like, I don't want to say it.
• 1:07:22
  And she's like, just say it. And I was like, I'm not going to
• 1:07:26
  say because the spoiler for you guys if you haven't seen it, but
• 1:07:27
  I was like, this is how I would book it.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah, yeah. And she's like, what?
• 1:07:31
  I'm like, this is what I would do.
• 1:07:32
  That's how I was. And then it did.
• 1:07:34
  And I was like, fuck yes. Yeah, that's the whole movie.
• 1:07:37
  I'm like man, this is so funny. Because even when she even when
• 1:07:40
  she like comes out, she doesn't fully come out to the audience.
• 1:07:44
  But like if your problem solver like me like she did it, you
• 1:07:48
  know what I mean? It was so good, good movie.
• 1:07:50
  Go watch it, but go on you. And you know, I do.
• 1:07:52
  I wasn't going to watch my my buddy Reese from episode 3 of my
• 1:07:56
  podcast or episode 4 actually. He was like, do you got to watch
• 1:08:00
  this movie? Got to watch this movie?
• 1:08:02
  I was just like, I don't know, I'm kind of not into it.
• 1:08:04
  And then? Fuck I just watched Death of a
• 1:08:06
  Unicorn. What?
• 1:08:07
  Do you think? I I knew how it was going to
• 1:08:11
  play out 15 minutes in OK, So I didn't pay attention as much as
• 1:08:14
  I should have. I didn't hate the movie, but
• 1:08:17
  it's definitely not one I'd probably rewatch.
• 1:08:19
  I'm kind of the same way I. I.
• 1:08:21
  I don't need it. I appreciated it.
• 1:08:23
  I thought Jenny Ortega and Paul Paul were fun were fun together.
• 1:08:27
  The kid from Shameless We are the Millers was great in it.
• 1:08:32
  He was fun as like like the unicorns looked cool.
• 1:08:35
  They the Unicorn lore I thought was cool and well done.
• 1:08:38
  The premise of the movie was cool, but I don't think it's one
• 1:08:40
  I would like go out of my way to watch it.
• 1:08:43
  I don't think, I don't think it needs to be revisited.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah, it was fine for one watch. But I thought, I thought it was
• 1:08:47
  fine, I didn't hate it. Trying to think what else I just
• 1:08:51
  started watching Snits. Creek I I never got into that.
• 1:08:54
  I tried a few times. I, I'm, I'm, I'm really liking
• 1:08:57
  it. Cool.
• 1:08:58
  Yeah, it's I'm pretty into it music wise.
• 1:09:01
  I don't think I've really listened to anything new.
• 1:09:05
  But yeah, I'm just I'm just trying to think else like pop
• 1:09:07
  culture wise, trailer wise. I will say that move, I don't
• 1:09:11
  know what it's called. No, it's like the forgotten city
• 1:09:13
  or something, but it's kind of like K pop Demon Hunter anime
• 1:09:17
  meets beyond the spider verse at where it's 2 girls.
• 1:09:20
  There was there in the Mario trailer.
• 1:09:22
  I didn't see it in theaters. You.
• 1:09:23
  Bootleg, bootleg. Yeah, you're a bootlegger.
• 1:09:26
  But it's about these two girls who are like weird girls that
• 1:09:29
  become friends and then they go all through life and then they
• 1:09:32
  get sucked into this weird portal and then like, like
• 1:09:35
  they're going to forget each other by the end of it.
• 1:09:38
  It's really cool, animation looks fun.
• 1:09:40
  That sounds good. That one looks good.
• 1:09:43
  I'm not into the Minions movies at all, but the new minion in
• 1:09:47
  monsters looks funny. Yeah, that one looks pretty
• 1:09:50
  funny. They try to summon the Cthulhu.
• 1:09:53
  Oh, I mean. And then they summoned a bunch
• 1:09:55
  of monsters. That was pretty fun.
• 1:09:58
  Lily, whatever the what were the other trailers I thought were
• 1:10:01
  cool? She has headphones and I think
• 1:10:05
  which one? He man, Oh he man.
• 1:10:08
  I'm. I've never got into the cartoon.
• 1:10:10
  Of he man me either, that's why I'm not.
• 1:10:12
  But the new movie looks. Awesome.
• 1:10:14
  Yeah, I'm gonna watch it. I don't know if I'm gonna go to
• 1:10:16
  theaters to see it though. Yeah, I don't know about the
• 1:10:17
  theaters, but I'm pumped to see it.
• 1:10:19
  The new Supergirl looks great. I'm.
• 1:10:21
  Excited. I'm sold on the James Gunn
• 1:10:22
  universe. Did you watch Peacemaker 2 yet?
• 1:10:25
  No, come on, man. Yeah, I had to get.
• 1:10:26
  I had to do it. You need to watch that before
• 1:10:29
  you watch Supergirl. Really.
• 1:10:30
  Yeah. You do.
• 1:10:31
  OK. OK.
• 1:10:31
  All right, I'll, I'll work on that.
• 1:10:32
  Maybe. What else did I Oh, Doomsday,
• 1:10:37
  are you are you are you excited for the Doomsday Avengers?
• 1:10:39
  Doomsday I'm. Burnt out on waiting for it.
• 1:10:42
  OK. But I yeah, of course I'm going
• 1:10:44
  to see it probably first day. I love Doom, but I don't know
• 1:10:46
  how I feel about Robert Robert Downey Junior being Doom.
• 1:10:49
  The the the lore has to be dead on.
• 1:10:52
  Perfect. Yeah, Like there can't be any
• 1:10:54
  loose. We have to go see.
• 1:10:55
  Oh, you know what I want to go see with you?
• 1:10:57
  The Odyssey. No, I'm just kidding.
• 1:10:59
  I think you want to see the. Odyssey would be 1 I think it
• 1:11:01
  would be me, you and Lily goes. But I don't know if Lily would
• 1:11:03
  be interested in going to the one I want to go see, but I know
• 1:11:06
  you will be. I want to go see the new Mummy
• 1:11:08
  movie. I do too.
• 1:11:09
  Lee Cronenberg's Mummy Man. Looks crazy and he says it's in
• 1:11:13
  the Evil Dead universe. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Well it it does somehow it relate.
• 1:11:17
  Yeah, I need that. I need that.
• 1:11:19
  It relates to Evil Dead Burn, yeah, Which is also, I mean, not
• 1:11:22
  burn, rise, rise, but then also Evil Dead Burn looks amazing.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah, that's I have and then that.
• 1:11:29
  Show relates back that movie relates back to the first Evil
• 1:11:33
  Dead. And the first Evil Dead movie
• 1:11:35
  where it says four people burned in cabin.
• 1:11:38
  It alerts to the the remake. No shit.
• 1:11:42
  Yeah, that's cool. I, I'm, I'm pumped.
• 1:11:45
  I'm so I guess like the archaeologist from Rise is the
• 1:11:49
  same one who finds the stuff for the mummy.
• 1:11:51
  Which is the voice of Bruce Campbell?
• 1:11:52
  Is it really? Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  I'm pretty sure that. That was so fucking in.
• 1:11:56
  So I didn't get into the Evil Dead movies until I went to see
• 1:12:00
  the Evil Dead the musical stage production.
• 1:12:04
  I don't you if you. I haven't seen it.
• 1:12:07
  If it ever happens anywhere close, we have to go.
• 1:12:09
  OK, it's it's one of the most fun, hilarious, bloody
• 1:12:15
  adventures you'll ever have. Are you for going to New York
• 1:12:17
  City? I mean, I'll do it as long as I
• 1:12:20
  have the money. Have you ever done it?
• 1:12:22
  I've never been to the city so I don't know how to navigate it.
• 1:12:25
  Oh yeah, no, I can do it. It's just a grid.
• 1:12:27
  But I in high school, I went with the drama.
• 1:12:31
  I went to England with them, and then we went to New York and we
• 1:12:36
  took an acting class with one of the actresses from the Rent
• 1:12:40
  stage production. And then we saw Rent that night.
• 1:12:42
  Got you. Really.
• 1:12:43
  I want to see my first Broadway show.
• 1:12:46
  I'm actually trying to figure out what Broadway show I'm going
• 1:12:49
  to see when I'm in England this summer.
• 1:12:50
  I need to see Rocky Horror Picture show on Broadway.
• 1:12:55
  Yeah, who's going to be in that? The dude from Knives Out plays.
• 1:12:59
  OK. Yeah, I saw Megan the stallion
• 1:13:02
  is going to be in Moulin Rouge on Broadway, too.
• 1:13:05
  I kind of want to check that out.
• 1:13:06
  All right. Well, she's totally down.
• 1:13:08
  She's been telling me she wants to go do it, so we'll have to
• 1:13:10
  make a plan to do. I just don't know my way around.
• 1:13:12
  The city is my big thing. That's where I struggle.
• 1:13:14
  Yeah, trains will take you everywhere.
• 1:13:16
  Yeah, All right, that's going to do it.
• 1:13:18
  Episode 3 in the books. I will try to do these more
• 1:13:21
  frequently. So I'm, I'm, I'm I want to cheat
• 1:13:24
  and I want to film a bunch of them in one day and then just
• 1:13:26
  post them all. But I also want to keep you guys
• 1:13:28
  on the on the up of like, hey, this is what happened to me this
• 1:13:31
  week. This is kind of so like I want
• 1:13:32
  you to hear the stories and, but also like, if you want more of a
• 1:13:35
  deeper dive of what's going on, that's where the vlog's going to
• 1:13:37
  kick in, where you guys can check out the vlog.
• 1:13:39
  And I may or may not film. I didn't film anything at PBW.
• 1:13:43
  So I found this new product. Today, what's that it's called?
• 1:13:45
  Lucky. What's that like?
• 1:13:47
  LO OK, I it's just AI based like a body Cam and it literally like
• 1:13:54
  12 hours. It'll stay on your body all day
• 1:13:57
  long and it'll make a vlog of your day.
• 1:13:59
  Really It'll automatically make a vlog of your day at the end of
• 1:14:02
  your week. It'll make a comic book strip of
• 1:14:04
  your week. So.
• 1:14:06
  Look, send me that. I'm going to try it out.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it edits for you too.
• 1:14:10
  Yeah, so I figured, man, what? I'm in when.
• 1:14:12
  We're at like conventions that we don't want to pull it out.
• 1:14:15
  It's just on and then the vlogs at the.
• 1:14:17
  End. Yeah, but some places will be
• 1:14:18
  like, hey, take that camera off at least.
• 1:14:19
  Some places don't want the camera.
• 1:14:20
  Possibly. Because like, Billy Loomis was
• 1:14:22
  like, no cameras. On Oh did he?
• 1:14:23
  Yeah, he had a sign on this table.
• 1:14:26
  Yeah. So that that's something.
• 1:14:28
  I didn't film anything at PPW. Yeah.
• 1:14:31
  I, I'll talk about a little bit with you, but not, I won't go
• 1:14:34
  into full detail, but I, I, I'm done there.
• 1:14:38
  Interesting 22 podcasts in one week.
• 1:14:40
  I talk about endings at PPE I I. No disrespect.
• 1:14:44
  I have no beef. No, it's not like I'm leaving on
• 1:14:46
  a bad note. I backstage is just not where my
• 1:14:49
  heart's AT. Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  And I'm not feeling it. And I feel like they have a
• 1:14:53
  really good team there with Shearson and Nate and I just
• 1:14:57
  like, I was there last night and I was like, they're like, you
• 1:15:00
  want to do one? I was like, no, I, I think it
• 1:15:02
  has a lot to my mental health right now too.
• 1:15:04
  And I'm just like, I'm very protective of my energy and my
• 1:15:08
  time and my efforts. And like, I just filled my gas
• 1:15:12
  tank and it was really fucking expensive.
• 1:15:14
  And then I go there and it doesn't quit equate to me
• 1:15:17
  feeding myself for the day, driving there to do it and then
• 1:15:21
  driving home and then come home and editing it all and then
• 1:15:25
  putting it on my social. It just doesn't, it doesn't make
• 1:15:27
  sense for me to do it. And I know the talent love me
• 1:15:30
  being the backstage guy. They love interacting with me
• 1:15:32
  and doing it. But it's just, it's not where my
• 1:15:35
  heart's at. I'm a, I'm a commentary guy.
• 1:15:36
  I want to do commentary. That's fair.
• 1:15:38
  I want to do ring announcing. I want to be with the crowd.
• 1:15:40
  I want to be in front of a crowd.
• 1:15:42
  I can't grow my brand in a local wrestling scene backstage and,
• 1:15:48
  and I'm not trying to be, I'm not going to be me when I say
• 1:15:50
  this, but I generally feel like as the backstage interviewer
• 1:15:53
  there, I felt like I was a different entity than the
• 1:15:55
  company. I felt like I was a freelance
• 1:15:57
  person because they even weren't showing the content of.
• 1:16:00
  Us being so that's how I saw that a couple people or probably
• 1:16:04
  a lot of people on TikTok and stuff like that found you
• 1:16:07
  through stopping and watching your backstage content.
• 1:16:10
  They did. You know, so I, I am taking a
• 1:16:13
  hit on that and I think like, I think where I would possibly be
• 1:16:18
  more inclined to do backstage interviews is if I felt like the
• 1:16:21
  backstage team was also part of the company team.
• 1:16:26
  You know what I mean? We don't really get a lot of
• 1:16:29
  feedback on what we need to do and talk about.
• 1:16:32
  We don't get a lot of notes. We don't get a lot.
• 1:16:34
  And then they don't tell the people like, hey, you must go
• 1:16:37
  back there and get a promo for next week.
• 1:16:39
  We have to hunt them down. It feels like we're like our own
• 1:16:42
  separate entity and have to do all the work for them and then
• 1:16:46
  they don't really reciprocate by even showing it on their own
• 1:16:48
  social media pages. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:50
  And it's just like, I, I feel like it's a waste of time and
• 1:16:52
  like, no disrespect, I love them.
• 1:16:54
  They're great. But as like a content creator,
• 1:16:56
  that is time that I could be putting forth.
• 1:16:58
  Like last night was a pay review.
• 1:17:00
  I could have went live on the AW pay review and fucking got just
• 1:17:03
  as many viewers live streaming something and never leaving my
• 1:17:07
  house. Like, I just have to find that
• 1:17:08
  balance, you know? Yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Or I could have just stayed home and hung out with family and
• 1:17:12
  friends and. And not have a as as important
• 1:17:16
  to do, man, I think, I think just the the idea is just be
• 1:17:20
  authentic to you. Do do, do act on your highest
• 1:17:23
  excitement. Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  So whatever, whatever you're feeling that day, if it's not
• 1:17:27
  going to PPW, if it's staying at home and just hanging, just do
• 1:17:31
  that. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm
• 1:17:32
  at. And you'll be all the happier
• 1:17:34
  for it. You forgot what I was going to
• 1:17:38
  say. Oh, do you think that the gas
• 1:17:43
  prices are going to take a major hit on our mental health?
• 1:17:48
  Because I already know that I am dreading driving to Ohio this
• 1:17:52
  week because I know that my my trip is increased by about
• 1:17:57
  $400.00. Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Because of these fucking gas prices.
• 1:18:00
  Were you doing Ohio again, Sonic Temple?
• 1:18:03
  That's right. Yeah.
• 1:18:04
  That's why I came here today. Yeah.
• 1:18:06
  That's right, I forgot. But so there's that, and then
• 1:18:09
  I'm kind of trying to save money for my England trip, right?
• 1:18:13
  And those plane tickets are going to be expensive.
• 1:18:15
  Oh, so I've already locked those in.
• 1:18:17
  Yeah. Now the problem is a lot of
• 1:18:20
  European summer flights are getting cancelled because of jet
• 1:18:24
  fuel shortage because. And air flights and air company
• 1:18:27
  places shut it down. Yeah, so like.
• 1:18:30
  Spirit closed, and Spirit was the one that kept all the other
• 1:18:33
  prices in check because Spirit kept their prices lower.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah. So I'm I'm, I'm scared.
• 1:18:38
  I'm not gonna lie and and I hate.
• 1:18:39
  That, and we have another possible pandemic around the
• 1:18:41
  corner. And a freaking.
• 1:18:42
  Antivirus. We have a fucking new thing
• 1:18:44
  coming, so that's good. It's looking exciting.
• 1:18:46
  Yeah, I'm I'm not excited about it.
• 1:18:49
  I usually I can keep politics and.
• 1:18:53
  And how about how about all these, all these concerts
• 1:18:55
  getting shut down for the summer?
• 1:18:56
  They're all, all these people Post Malone cancel this whole
• 1:18:59
  summer tour the Pussycat Doll. I mean, who cares?
• 1:19:02
  But like they like like 9 or like 6 major acts said because
• 1:19:07
  they're, it's called the blue dot fever.
• 1:19:08
  They're seeing that their ticket sales aren't being sold because
• 1:19:12
  people can't afford to go see tickets are paid the ticket
• 1:19:14
  price that they're trying to charge and they're not.
• 1:19:17
  Coming down to Ticketmaster. You know how like when you go
• 1:19:20
  buy tickets and like the blue dots are the available ones.
• 1:19:23
  So they're not selling tickets in all these cities and they're
• 1:19:26
  not making the quota what they would want to make as an artist.
• 1:19:29
  So they're saying, well, it's not worth the money.
• 1:19:30
  We're not going. I mean, you factor in even gas
• 1:19:33
  prices to that, like who can afford to drive?
• 1:19:35
  It takes me two hours to get it to any venue.
• 1:19:37
  Yeah, that's a four hour round trip.
• 1:19:41
  That's a full tank of gas. It was it was 80 bucks fill my
• 1:19:45
  tank the other day. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a /
• 1:19:48
  100 for me now. Dude, it was 80 bucks to fill my
• 1:19:50
  tank, then to take the girls and myself and Lily to eat was
• 1:19:54
  another $80 tab. Then the movie and the popcorn
• 1:19:57
  and the drinks. It was.
• 1:20:00
  It was a day. Taking a family to the movies is
• 1:20:02
  a hit, yeah. It's hard, hard to do, hard to
• 1:20:05
  do. So yeah, I'm the the I am afraid
• 1:20:08
  of what life is about to look like, not only because of a
• 1:20:13
  possible pandemic making us not leave our homes, but financially
• 1:20:17
  not being able to leave our homes.
• 1:20:19
  Yeah, well, that's why I paid for all this equipment to
• 1:20:21
  podcast. So we can still do this and have
• 1:20:24
  fun. We can.
• 1:20:25
  We can sit. You're an affordable trip for
• 1:20:27
  me. We can sit here and watch a
• 1:20:28
  movie. You got a comfy ass chair,
• 1:20:30
  right? Here, oh, I want to get like one
• 1:20:31
  of those TikTok couches, the boneless couches, oh.
• 1:20:34
  Man, I'll never get out. And I just want to put one of
• 1:20:36
  these in here and I want to like arrange a little more and put
• 1:20:39
  one of the couch and then just kind of like have like movies.
• 1:20:42
  I need some bones. Strong bones.
• 1:20:46
  Yeah, man, you give me a boneless couch, I'm sticking to
• 1:20:48
  the floor. We'll test it out TikTok.
• 1:20:52
  There's your challenge. Send me a boneless couch and
• 1:20:54
  we'll give it the Kilowatt test. Make sure, Speaking of Kilowatt,
• 1:20:57
  make sure you go support him over all the high tension
• 1:20:59
  wrestling network on YouTube and Facebook and Instagram and go
• 1:21:03
  check out his new podcast Kilowatt and friends.
• 1:21:05
  My first episode was a smash hit that spawned another episode
• 1:21:09
  because I especially, I guess, said bad things about people,
• 1:21:12
  but all I was doing was telling our story.
• 1:21:14
  Telling the story, man. I don't even care if that person
• 1:21:17
  exists. Like, I don't even like it was
• 1:21:19
  just his presence was part of our story and I talked about it.
• 1:21:23
  Nothing wrong with that I. Don't care, do we?
• 1:21:25
  Gotta do. June 6.
• 1:21:27
  By the way, that is that when it drops.
• 1:21:30
  No, I'm having a Jeez, that's a that's a hefty weight.
• 1:21:33
  No, that'll drop this Tuesday, which is probably going to be
• 1:21:36
  before after this. After this will probably drop
• 1:21:38
  Wednesday. I think what I'm going to do is
• 1:21:39
  once my 5 questions that I have already scheduled are done, 5
• 1:21:43
  questions is going to move to Mondays.
• 1:21:46
  The podcast will probably move to Fridays and then I have like
• 1:21:49
  a live stream on a Wednesday. I'm going to, I'm going to do
• 1:21:51
  less, Less is. And then the vlog may drop every
• 1:21:55
  now, like once a month, I'm dropping a vlog on the beginning
• 1:21:57
  of the month of the last month. That's what I'm doing, yeah.
• 1:22:00
  All right, so June 6, I'm going to go further into the red on
• 1:22:04
  debt by collaborating with X Brand Wrestling to put on a
• 1:22:11
  deathmatch show they started. Following me.
• 1:22:14
  Well, yeah, well. They started following me and
• 1:22:16
  then a bunch of their a bunch of a few of their people started
• 1:22:19
  following me too. They're looking out at me.
• 1:22:21
  They're they're watching my stuff X brand.
• 1:22:24
  I'm I'm entertaining. Give me a microphone.
• 1:22:26
  I will. Yeah.
• 1:22:27
  Commentary. I'll bring commentary.
• 1:22:29
  Yeah, I know. I'm trying to put it together
• 1:22:31
  some some death matches. I got a couple people in mind,
• 1:22:35
  maybe one or two that'll surprise you.
• 1:22:37
  You know, one, actually, I don't know if I can say this, I'll say
• 1:22:41
  it off camera, but someone was approached by X brand to do a
• 1:22:44
  deathmatch and they're super excited, but it's in a show
• 1:22:46
  that's I don't have the flight to pay to go out there, but I
• 1:22:50
  want to see this deathmatch. Was it the Vegas show?
• 1:22:52
  No, it's an upcoming show. Oh, in Texas, they reached out
• 1:22:56
  to someone who I'm very close with to do a match, and it's
• 1:22:59
  their first death match and they're stoked for it.
• 1:23:02
  Really. Someone who's really exciting.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah. I'll tell you about the camera.
• 1:23:09
  We'll get out of here. We'll see you guys next time.
• 1:23:10
  We'll see you next Wednesday for the next episode, Episode 4
• 1:23:14
  Things I Wish I Knew in My 20s. I hope you guys are appreciating
• 1:23:17
  this and let Kilowatt know if he did a good job.
• 1:23:19
  I know he did 'cause I had fun doing it.
• 1:23:20
  And go support his podcast. Go listen to our first episode
• 1:23:23
  over on High Tension and skip. Go watch, Really, Mike, Go watch
• 1:23:26
  the third one, Skip the 4th one. It's probably not going to be
• 1:23:30
  that good. And then.
• 1:23:32
  That's the that's Reese. You mean the fifth one?
• 1:23:34
  Oh, the fifth. Yeah, Reese is cool.
• 1:23:36
  I no, that's right. I have I with my new job, I have
• 1:23:39
  less travel time to watch stuff, so I haven't gotten back.
• 1:23:42
  I want to watch the Desiree 1. I actually you should.
• 1:23:45
  I want to sit with her one day and talk to her.
• 1:23:47
  Yeah, you should. So the problem is the episode 3
• 1:23:51
  and 4 Desiree and Reese audio issues.
• 1:23:54
  I had my mics on mute so whoops. Yeah, you're learning.
• 1:23:58
  You're learning how to work the stuff.
• 1:24:00
  Yeah, I, I know now and I'm excited because I'm going to use
• 1:24:02
  them. I bought extra batteries and I'm
• 1:24:05
  going to be vlogging and interviewing as many people as I
• 1:24:08
  can while tailgating at the festival and during the
• 1:24:12
  festival. Sick love that, all right.
• 1:24:14
  Yeah, I'm just happy to be here. We're out of here.
• 1:24:16
  We'll see you guys next time. ABJ Kilowatt, we're out.
• 1:24:21
  Bye. That's awesome.
• 1:25:08
  The. and just randomly my friend's
• 1:25:39
  like Jackie None pizza now 30 minutes later we had like 5
• 1:25:45
  boxes of Domino's and cheese bread and all sorts of stuff
• 1:25:48
  man. It was just always love.
• 1:25:51
  She's always taking care of you and that's why we've been taking
• 1:25:53
  care of her for SO. When, when, When Jackie goes
• 1:26:05
  because I'm going. To be honest, I, I think, I
• 1:26:08
  think when Jackie, when, yeah, I don't want to sound dark when I
• 1:26:11
  say this, but when Jackie goes, we or your mom, like a fucking
• 1:26:16
  spa day or a fucking drink day or just take her out somewhere
• 1:26:20
  to do something because she's never had a moment to go enjoy
• 1:26:23
  herself or go do something. And I think we should take her
• 1:26:26
  out just to have whatever she wants to do that day.
• 1:26:28
  Like we take her to a concert. We take like because she's
• 1:26:30
  always had to take care of her mom.
• 1:26:32
  Yeah, it's, I think we should do that, her finding like her new
• 1:26:35
  identity outside of that, because as soon as the doctors
• 1:26:38
  told us this, I think. You're going to develop a
• 1:26:40
  different friendship with your mom.
• 1:26:42
  I think so, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:44
  We're definitely different people.
• 1:26:45
  But I still. I love her.
• 1:26:47
  Yeah. And this is Mother's Day.
• 1:26:48
  How about? That this is mother's.
• 1:26:49
  Day, you know, I do, I, I got a lot of love for, you know,
• 1:26:51
  anything that I had issues with her from our childhood, like I,
• 1:26:55
  I forgiven her for and interestingly enough, like the
• 1:27:00
  sacrifices that she's made alongside me to take care of my
• 1:27:04
  grandmother, who's like 100% I wouldn't have been able to do
• 1:27:08
  any of this by any of the equipment or pursue any of the
• 1:27:13
  wrestling without Jackie and Rhonda's assistance.
• 1:27:16
  And she, she would come to support you even though she knew
• 1:27:20
  coming there was going to be a fucking headache because she had
• 1:27:23
  to babysit her mom. Yeah, but she she did that so
• 1:27:26
  she could watch you grow. Like that's that's a dope mom.
• 1:27:29
  Yeah, yeah, the fucking she could easily set a home where
• 1:27:32
  we've been more easy and comfortable for her and and her.
• 1:27:34
  But there's a part of her that went because she wanted to go
• 1:27:37
  see you and do your thing. Big 10, Yeah.
• 1:27:39
  Yeah, She got the little fun rewards with Camp Leifrog, and I
• 1:27:43
  remember we're trying to incorporate Jackie into that
• 1:27:45
  battle royal, but she just, she wasn't going to take the
• 1:27:49
  direction to stay in it. Yeah, it would have been
• 1:27:51
  fantastic. Yeah, well, we the savage Granny
• 1:27:54
  T-shirts will always live on. Those are great.
• 1:27:56
  Yeah, I I still have mine somewhere.
• 1:27:58
  I have to find it. We'll have to bust those out,
• 1:28:01
  yeah. And then I have my photo with my
• 1:28:03
  Jackie photo. All right, that's so we're going
• 1:28:06
  to do just essentially the episode's going to be why if we
• 1:28:08
  refuse to be fake for success. And I'm going to have my talking
• 1:28:10
  points and then I'll just kind of we'll just bullshit as we go
• 1:28:13
  and just be be natural, be fun. Let's do it.
• 1:28:16
  All right. Can you do a huge favor?
• 1:28:22
  No. Please can you, can you, I'm
• 1:28:27
  already recording. Can you bring up that means not
• 1:28:30
  there to be two 2 bottles of water, the one for me, one for
• 1:28:34
  him while we record and I have that you laying down.
• 1:28:37
  Could you bring that up too? And he wants a piece of your
• 1:28:41
  nutty buddy. Why are you giving me Jesus?
• 1:28:43
  You don't want a baby cheeses. No, I don't want to.
• 1:28:45
  I thought you were reaching for a nutty buddy.
• 1:28:46
  What the hell did you find? Out these are randomly.
• 1:28:48
  I have like 5 of these in my car and I remembered when you wore
• 1:28:51
  the Jesus outfit. Oh yeah, so there's nothing
• 1:28:53
  after bottles of. Water.
• 1:28:54
  I was carrying the baby. I actually.
• 1:28:56
  What's that? So I heard nothing after the 2
• 1:28:59
  bottles of water. I was just shocked to buy a baby
• 1:29:01
  Jesus that's down there. You can read that out.
• 1:29:03
  Too. Appreciate you.
• 1:29:06
  No, the one of my last job, they gave me one of these because I
• 1:29:09
  know I'm the same guy. That's why I have I have one.
• 1:29:12
  So I think I left it in my locker at that last job.
• 1:29:15
  So now I have another little Jesus.
• 1:29:17
  I honestly as AI like the idea of Jesus.
• 1:29:20
  I think Jesus is a good dude. I think I'm a fan of the
• 1:29:23
  character. You don't have to believe in the
• 1:29:25
  Bible or believe in mainstream religion to enhance your life by
• 1:29:31
  the teachings of Jesus. Yeah, and also like all his
• 1:29:33
  teachings play into the spiritual mindset as well.
• 1:29:36
  Yeah, I think Jesus was more of a month than he was a Christian
• 1:29:39
  for sure. Yeah, well, he studied a bunch
• 1:29:41
  of different religions. He's a smart guy.
• 1:29:43
  Yeah, very smart guy, Allegedly. As assuming he's real, yeah.
• 1:29:47
  All right, 32. That's all going to the end 321.