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Ask Greg Cosell: Did Eagles DC Vic Fangio Blitz More Than Ever Vs. Chiefs? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The following is a shortened version of our Ask Greg
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  Speaker 2: So two questions.
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  Speaker 3: A was that the most blitzen h he has done
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  in the last year plus? And B was that the
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  most man he's played in the year plus?
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  Speaker 4: I would say I would say the answer to the
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  second question is no, because he plays man more than
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  people probably think. Sometimes it's the function of who you have.
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  You know, we obviously had Patrick's or Tan for you know,
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  you know who's a great man corner. But no, this
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  is not this is not new to him in his career.
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  So the answer as far as the Eagles is no,
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  He's played more man. The blitzing part I don't know
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  the exact answer, I like, but you know, number of blitzes,
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  I can't answer that, but I would say it's probably
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  in the ballpark, you know, because as soon as I
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  started watching that tape and within you know, the first
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  two or three possessions, I immediately noticed that this was
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  a totally different approach than what he did in the
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  Super Bowl. So you know, again without you know knowing,
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  I mean, we have websites that give us the exact numbers.
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  Sometimes they're right on, sometimes they're off by one or two,
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  but you know, they blitzed a meaningful amount given the
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  number of dropbacks, because don't forget Mahomes did not have
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  a ton of dropbacks. It's not as if he dropped
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  back forty five times.
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  Speaker 5: Greg, I have two questions for you, the first one being,
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  I know, on the Defensive podcast you mentioned about the
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  various need following DeVante Adams and how you can't that
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  with Puka because he's kind of like a chess player.
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  What do you think or would it be wise for
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  the Eagles to do something similar with Quinnon messed up
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  with Devonte, maybe having Cooper follow Pooka with him being closer,
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  you know, being comfortable playing closer to the line of
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  screamage stuff like that, being able to follow him around.
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  Speaker 4: Well, then it all depends on what you want to
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  do from an overall coverage standpoint, because if you're going
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  to match up two guys, yeah, you're essentially playing man.
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  You know, it's hard to match up two guys as
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  strict man to man cover guys and and you know,
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  do a lot of other things in coverage. So I'm
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  sure you can bet that becomes harder. So uh, you know.
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  And the thing is, when a guy moves the way
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  Nkula moves, Uh, it's it just becomes harder, you know,
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  because then then if it's the gene, you know, then
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  he has to move every time he moves, and then
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  you start getting into changing strengths. You have run support issues.
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  There's other issues that crop up if you're going to
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  do that, because they don't forget, they don't just move
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  guys in in the uh in the past game. They
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  move guys in the run game. You know. They're a
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  high percentage pre snap movement offense. So they it's not
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  just in the past game that that Nkoula goes in
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  motion or shifts, you know, it's all part of the
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  run game as well. So then now you're dealing with
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  a lot of other potential things that you that have
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  to be put into place, and a lot of communication
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  and you know, I'm not saying it can't happen, but
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  it's not as easy as that.
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  Speaker 2: Rick.
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  Speaker 5: Do you see anything there? It feels like a lot
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  of plays have been kind of gating blown up, And
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  I don't know if that has more to do with
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  like the tight formations that the Eagles been running. I
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  know Dickerson isn't healthy, but I know Jurgensen didn't play
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  too well in Week one. You know, anything that you
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  see there with him, Steen and Dickerson on the inside.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they they're opening the same
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  kinds of holes at this point that we saw last year.
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  I mean, right now, we're not necessarily seeing Bartley get
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  clean through the first level. You know, he's he's and
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  he's a big you know, he's a physical guy, so
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  he still gets yards, but he's not getting when he
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  gets clean through the first level. He's he's really tough
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  because then he generates speed with his size. But no,
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  it hasn't been quite the same. You know, it's two games.
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  Don't forget Steen. I mean, he's been there, but it's
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  all new once you start that. He's now the starting
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  right guard playing every snap. But yeah, I would say
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  that Jurgens was better this week, but probably can still
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  play better. It's just not been as clean as it
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  was last year up to this point.
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  Speaker 2: I have a question about the offense specifically. I was
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  curious if you can maybe give me his scattering report
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  on DeVante Smith, because I don't I think he's amazing,
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  but I just want to see what you think from
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  Alex standpoint. How good is he? Not a fair question
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  to ask.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean I really liked Avonta Smith. I
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  think he's incredibly smooth. He's a terrific route runner. He's
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  in some ways he's kind of a mini justin Jefferson
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  in the sense that he can change direction without having
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  to slow slow his stride or shorten his stride. He's
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  just nowhere near as big as Jefferson, so he's different
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  in that regard. He's more physical than his size would
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  indicate when he goes up to get the football. So
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  I think he's a very very good receiver. I don't
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  think there's any issues with DeVonta Smith.
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  Speaker 6: But my question is around the uh what's his name?
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  The last touchdown the Chiefs made with Thornton?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it was Thornton. Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So I was was watching friends breakdown of it, and
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  he he for the life and he could not figure
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  out what the cover was supposed to be. He had
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  theories that it might have been covered three buzz, but
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  he wasn't sure because of how I believe it was
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  because of uh responsibility. Well, what how Mkuba and Quinon
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  were lined up? I was just wondering if y'all did
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  y'all cover that in the in the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Greg, Greg, you said that you couldn't
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  figure out either and that there it looked like to
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  you that there was confusion.
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  Speaker 4: And well, I'll tell you what I thought, and I'm
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  gonna pull off the play, but I write I wrote
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  it in my notes too, but I'll tell you, well
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  exactly what I think, and I could be right, I
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  could be wrong, you know, So right, take it what
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  it's worth because I don't know. So now they're playing
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  what looks like it's a too high structure, so it
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  has a quarters look to it. So what what the
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  Chiefs do here is they have two receivers to the field,
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  but they take Smith Schuster from the boundary and they
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  motioned him across the formation. So he in a sense
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  when the ball snapped becomes number one and then means
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  number one. That Mitchell theoretically, that's Quinyon Mitchell there. That
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  Quinnon Mitchell theoretically would be responsible for Smith Jue Schuster
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  who became number one. But the nature of this three
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  receiver route combination is such that I think Mitchell kind
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  of is uncertain as to should he stay with Smith Schuster,
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  should he stay should he run with Thornton, who was
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  the original number one? I don't know. Because blankenship over
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  the top, he has to react to to the to
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  the over route to the inside by Hollywood Brown. So
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  now Thornton is basically running the seam with no one there.
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  Speaker 1: So again said today, Greg Vic said today that there
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  was a He inferred that there was a breakdown and
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  there was confusion in a breakdown and coverage on it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there was for sure, because you're not letting a
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  guy run over the top of no one there. It's
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  just a matter of he's not going to sit there
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  and tell you you know who made it because there's
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  no reason to do that and you're not going to
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  play on the bus. So I'm just telling you what
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  I think happened. You know, I think Mitchell for a
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  second kind of got stuck because before the motion he
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  had Thornton, who is the number one, and that meant
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  means he's responsible for one vertical. But then all of
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  a sudden Smith Schuster became number one, and I think
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  Mitchell kind of got stuck for a second. But I
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  don't want to say it's his fall. I don't know
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  that for a fact.
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  Speaker 6: Also, going back to that first play, Brand point out
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  how because he was because he was kind of going
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  through examples of how a lot better, and he made
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  a point. I believe it was that same play on
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  the first play that it was drawn up to where
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  Brown was supposed to It was supposed to go to
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  Brown on a deep shot or something, or a deep
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  post something like that.
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  Speaker 4: In vertically and he ended up being open.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it was supposed to go to Brown, but
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  because of the blitz and then that and look at
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  messed that up. They ended up, you know, messing the
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  whole play up and you didn't get it off. Yeah,
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  I had that had that actually been cleared up, he
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  would have had like the you know, the A. J.
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  Brown saying, thought you were a touchdown on the first
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  play of the game.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, assuming Jalen throws it. I mean you should
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  have that. That would have been right, right, right, right right.
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  Speaker 4: We just surprised that they probably tried to get the
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  ball to A. J. Brown on the first play given
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  what happened the week prior.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Greg, because I was gonna make
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  fun of you and Adam for the whole they're gonna
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  come out throwing in the pregame show when they didn't,
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  but they actually tried to, right, because we say it
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  every week, they're gonna come out throw, and they're going
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  to come out throw in Last Tear week.
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  Speaker 4: One of these weeks they will they.
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  Speaker 1: And then they'll actually connect.
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  Speaker 7: I don't want to be doom in gloom, but I
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  have two kinds of questions for you, it's about the offense.
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  Speaker 2: I know how you always explain things.
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  Speaker 7: You don't rip coaches and you don't talk bad about
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  the coaches because you're not there, but you don't want
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  to compare apples to apples.
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  Speaker 2: But it kind of feels like the offense.
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  Speaker 7: It kind of reminds me of twenty twenty three, how
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  kind of slow the passing game is and how slow
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  the offense is. Can you just kind of talk about
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  what you're seeing from a conceptual standpoint in terms of
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  like maybe the route concepts and what you're seeing in
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  terms of the passing game, because it just it's just.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of kind of worried.
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  Speaker 7: Worries someome right now with how how kind of slow
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  the passing game is.
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  Speaker 4: I'll give you my interpretation, Eric, Okay. You know, like
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  I said, I'm not there, so I'll just give you
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  my interpretation solely from watching Tate. That's all I can do.
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  So what I think that right now that my interpretation
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  is that Kevin Petulo is kind of looking through it
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  that you know, this is all new for him too.
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  Don't forget because Jalen Hurts did not play in the
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  preseason and even if he did, he would have played,
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  you know, ten snaps. So now you have to work
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  through an entire game, which is totally different than being
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  in training camp or in the offseason when you're talking
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  about it. And I think that he's trying to figure out,
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  you know, exactly how to call the game and what
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  concepts work against a particular opponent, and you know what
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  concepts you really want to stick to. There's been a
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  lot of repetition of things which I don't recall seeing
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  a ton of in the past, which in and of itself,
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  that's not terrible. There are a lot of coaches that
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  repeat plays and they work great, so that in and
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  of itself is not terrible. So I think there's that.
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  I also think that Jalen, and this is again my
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  interpretation watching the tape. You know, only he could tell you,
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  but he's not going to obviously, I think right now
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  it looks to me like his eyes at times. There
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  are three or four plays where I thought his eyes
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  based on the coverage when he took the snap of
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  the ball that were not in the right place, that
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  he wasn't looking where he should have given the route
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  concept versus what the coverage showed so normally when things
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  aren't going well, Eric, it's not just one thing. It's
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  a combination of things. Fans always wanted to be one thing, thinking, oh, okay,
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  you know, if Kevin Patullo just calls the game better,
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  we're great. You know, if Jalen just sees it better,
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  we're good to go. You know, it's very rarely one thing.
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  And you know, one thing I mentioned to the guys,
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  and I don't know if you listen, I think I
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  mentioned it to the guys. I have so many conversations,
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  you know, I have them in my matchup room here
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  to it that film. So you know, it's all day
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  long just talking ball and watching tape. So I forget
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  who I'm telling stuff too. But there's a what a
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  lot of people don't think about is Jalen has a
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  new guy talking in his ear now for the play calls.
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  And that's a big deal. It's a whole different voice.
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  It's a whole different cadence. It's a whole different way
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  of presenting the plays. You know, now you have to
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  get the cadence of Kevin Petullo. Feel comfortable with how
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  he talks.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, guys, have a good one.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Guys, thanks here, Greg, thank you all right. Yeah,
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  I appreciate that. Thanks ye