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10-15 H3: 12th Man Roundtable w/ Hugh Millen & Gregg Bell · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: As part of our nonstop coverage of the NFL, this
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  Speaker 1: is Chuck in the Morning's weekly visit with the 12th
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  Speaker 1: Man Roundtable with Hugh Millen and Greg Bell. Brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by the Evergreen Council on Problem Gambling. The 12th
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  Speaker 1: Man Roundtable is on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: Game day.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go. Seahawks Broncos tonight from Denver, a place
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  Speaker 3: that one of our panelists has played some games in Denver, Colorado,
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  Speaker 3: wearing that Bronco uniform. But he'll be rooting for the
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks tonight. He better be. Otherwise, we'll hold him down.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And give him noogies. It is Chuck in the Morning,
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  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Great to have you with
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  Speaker 3: us here on this Thursday morning. And it is time
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  Speaker 3: for our 12th man roundtable game day edition. I got
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  Speaker 3: Hugh Millen with us, our QB1, our top analyst, and
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  Speaker 3: our top insider, Greg Bell, who's walking through the airport
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  Speaker 3: as we speak. When you said that you could only
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  Speaker 3: do one segment, I didn't know it was going to
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  Speaker 3: be from the actual airport, Greg. Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I roll, man.
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  Speaker 2: I do about five things at once most days in
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  Speaker 2: the football season.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, a day of game trip.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Weather's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: Like fall, like 45-ish, 50 degrees, no rain.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's nice. I like that. Hugh, when you see
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  Speaker 3: games at mile high, or I don't think it's even
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  Speaker 3: called that anymore, does it harken back to days of
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  Speaker 3: yesteryear wearing the Bronco colors?
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  Speaker 1: Occasionally.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, there's some good memories there. It's a different stadium.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I think about a hundred yards from the
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  Speaker 5: old grounds, but yeah, there's a lot, a lot of
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  Speaker 5: memories there, good memories mostly. And so, but you know what,
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  Speaker 5: I played for enough teams. I don't really get nostalgic because, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: another one of my old teams.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know like, Oh man, there's the, there's
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  Speaker 3: the pub where Shannon sharp mooned me, you know, 1994.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. yeah well i met my wife uh
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  Speaker 3: there you go there you go perfect there you go
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  Speaker 3: much better memory yeah uh all right well let's dive
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  Speaker 3: into a lot to discuss uh greg give us an
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  Speaker 3: update on some i mean the broncos have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of injuries they're three defensive backs down uh in this
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  Speaker 3: game um meanwhile considering it's a thursday seahawks look pretty
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  Speaker 3: clean right now do they not They do.
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  Speaker 4: Greg Thomas won't play tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He's got the ankle injury from the game last weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Just 40.
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  Speaker 2: I got the impression if this was a normal week,
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  Speaker 2: Greg Thomas would play. So normally Tyrese Knight would come
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  Speaker 2: up and be the strong side inside linebacker in his place.
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  Speaker 2: That's who played it before Thomas emerged last year. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure they're even going to have the
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  Speaker 2: strong side linebacker on the field much tonight. I think
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see more of the dime 2025 Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: than we saw last week. And that means Nick Eamon
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  Speaker 2: Worry is basically the Sam linebacker and the extra defensive back.
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  Speaker 2: Nehemiah Pritchett has earned more than the four snaps he
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  Speaker 2: got last week against the 49ers. I think he'll get
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  Speaker 2: them to move Witherspoon inside. I really believe that schematically
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  Speaker 2: McDonald was trying to switch up on Shanahan and not
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  Speaker 2: go dime with Eamon Worry and then Witherspoon in the
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  Speaker 2: middle and Pritchett as much outside just because they had
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  Speaker 2: seen that all last year and probably prepared the 49ers
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  Speaker 2: all last week for that. I think this week, a
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  Speaker 2: little fewer smoke and mirrors and scheming by McDonald. Shorter week,
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  Speaker 2: get him back to what, and now even where he's back.
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  Speaker 2: He's at 100% clip of snaps. So I do think
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  Speaker 2: that Drake Thomas' absence is going to be minimized tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jake was fine. We knew he would be.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably not 100%, and we've said this many times.
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  Speaker 2: Very few players on that field tonight. Would be playing
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  Speaker 2: if they had their choice. They have to play because
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  Speaker 2: it's a four days after a Sunday game. But there
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  Speaker 2: are very few 100 percent guys tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Hugh, the Broncos are without three of their starting members
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  Speaker 3: of the secondary. I mean, when you hear that as
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback, is it just natural to kind of lick
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  Speaker 3: your chops at that moment if you're Sam Darnold?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but getting back to the last point, I think
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  Speaker 5: it will be interesting to see how Sean Payton tries
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  Speaker 5: to dictate, if at all, what the personnel will be.
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  Speaker 5: Drake Thomas has been the will backer and Eamon Worry
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  Speaker 5: has been the strong backer. When they go dime, then
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  Speaker 5: they will typically, based on field and boundary, then then
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  Speaker 5: Eamon Worry can go to the will and you can
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  Speaker 5: have Witherspoon as the Sam to the field. But there
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  Speaker 5: may be an effort to try and attack Tyrese Knight.
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  Speaker 5: And to do that, you're going to have to get
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  Speaker 5: into some pretty heavy personnel.
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  Speaker 3: As far as.
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  Speaker 5: The break, to not have Sertan, that's a deal. That
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  Speaker 5: is a big advantage, and Talanoa Hufunga is a playmaker.
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  Speaker 5: He's been a guy when he was with the 49ers,
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  Speaker 5: was first-team All-Pro before he got hurt. He was a
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  Speaker 5: Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year at USC. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this guy's a heck of a football player, and he
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  Speaker 5: had the game-turning pick-six against the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: He just has a knack.
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  Speaker 5: He's not exceedingly... Not gifted physically, but he just has
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  Speaker 5: a mind for the right play. And so I think
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  Speaker 5: for Sam Darnold's sake, I'm sure it's some sense of
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  Speaker 5: relief and opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Greg, what do you think? Down three corners, does Sam
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  Speaker 3: Darnold play his best game this Thursday? Is that your
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  Speaker 3: gut feel? Is Sam Darnold ready to have that complete
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  Speaker 3: game that gets people off his back?
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  Speaker 2: Well, best game's a low bar for this season. You're
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  Speaker 2: talking just about this season. Five interceptions the last three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: They talked that as soon as the game ended, he
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  Speaker 2: went to Brian Fleury this week and said, let's go
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  Speaker 2: back to the plays that I like most.
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  Speaker 4: In training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be here regardless of the opponent and the game
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  Speaker 2: plan for Denver's defense this week. Let's just go back
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  Speaker 2: to our bread and butter plays that we really like
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  Speaker 2: in August.
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  Speaker 4: And Fleury says, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the hope that Darnold will throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: more decisively. That's been the word this week between Fleury
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  Speaker 2: and the quarterback is decisive. Throw on time, plant the
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  Speaker 2: back foot and throw. Get off your reads quickly and
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  Speaker 2: move on to the next one.
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  Speaker 4: That's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Mean more familiar plays that he likes, not Denver-specific plays.
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  Speaker 2: And Fleury has said, and it's true, they would do
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  Speaker 2: that anyway in a four-game break between games. You'd convince
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  Speaker 2: it and make it simpler. But to get him, Darnold,
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  Speaker 2: back on track, that's what they're going to do tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So if you believe him at their word, the plays
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see early in the game tonight, especially, are.
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  Speaker 4: Going to be plays he did and liked in August.
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  Speaker 2: And we saw, you and I saw, while standing on
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  Speaker 2: the sidelines during training camp, And what did I see there?
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  Speaker 4: I saw tight ends further down the field.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a lot of jet cheat motion, as they
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  Speaker 2: call it, right before the snap to get leverage outside.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Smith and Jigba with a lot of outside routes.
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  Speaker 2: Look for that tonight. And if you see that, then
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  Speaker 2: that's the stuff from training camp. In training camp, I
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  Speaker 2: saw him throw it a lot to the running back,
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  Speaker 2: but the running back was Jadarian Price, and they don't
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  Speaker 2: have that. That's not really Emmanuel Wilson's game, but that
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  Speaker 2: is Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 4: 's game.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you're going to see his Seahawks debut tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think he's just going to be there
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  Speaker 2: to play a few plays. I think he's going to
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  Speaker 2: get more than a couple touches, both in the run
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  Speaker 2: game and the pass game. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: a demotion for George Helani, but he probably deserves one
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  Speaker 2: where he doesn't play as many third down snaps.
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  Speaker 4: And that might be Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: the guy they signed from the commander's practice squad last week.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't practiced. He hasn't played at all. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't play last week. They left him inactive, curiously.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's time to see him and what he
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  Speaker 2: can do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Sam certainly could play better, but when you
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  Speaker 3: say off-track, how far off-track is Sam Darnold? Is it
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  Speaker 3: like a broken wheel on your grocery cart, or is
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  Speaker 3: he a little more in line than what people are
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  Speaker 3: letting on?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think, first of all, I'm not sure Brian
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  Speaker 5: Flory should have said, hey, we're going to have we're
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  Speaker 5: going to look more like training camp. That's just going
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  Speaker 5: to send the Broncos to really examine the training camp.
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  Speaker 5: But you go back to the beginning of the game
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  Speaker 5: last week. There was double Omaha routes, the quick out routes,
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  Speaker 5: and you took a sack on the very first play.
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  Speaker 5: Darnold takes a sack, and he came off of that
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  Speaker 5: too soon. And then on the interception that he had
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  Speaker 5: a play later, a play or two later, then he
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  Speaker 5: stayed on Jackson Smith and Jigba. And there was a
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  Speaker 5: commentary there as well because to his left, he had
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  Speaker 5: Rashid Shaheed on a speed out. So he had mirrored
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  Speaker 5: speed outs. And that's just pick a side often based
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  Speaker 5: on the depth of the corner. Clearly, the depth of
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  Speaker 5: the corner was farther off to the left. And he
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  Speaker 5: should have been going to Shahid. So I think that
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  Speaker 5: those were inverse problems. You know, one, when he got
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  Speaker 5: off it too soon, and then one, he should have,
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  Speaker 5: in the interception, he should have got off of it.
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  Speaker 5: As for, you know, the thing about the turnover. and
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  Speaker 5: I know that's been a big thing, Greg, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you say, see, I'll just don't turn the ball. And
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  Speaker 5: we've kind of gone around on this because, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I've had the correlation statistics where over, you know, five
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  Speaker 5: one-year studies of the most, you know, The correlation to
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  Speaker 5: Turner was by a quarterback and winning is.
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  Speaker 2: 010.
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  Speaker 5: It's essentially nothing. The correlation to the yards per drop
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  Speaker 5: back where Sam Darnold was number one in the NFL,
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  Speaker 5: that's a 675. And I know there's been a dismissal there,
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  Speaker 5: which it sounds a little bit like, yeah, an attorney saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I know my client's, DNA blood is at the crime scene,
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  Speaker 5: but it wasn't him. And if we want to go
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  Speaker 5: specifically for Seattle, in the Sam Darnold and since the
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  Speaker 5: beginning of 2025, since Sam Darnold's here, when Seattle has
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  Speaker 5: zero turnovers, they are 8-0. That's a fact. But they're
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  Speaker 5: 12-5 when they don't achieve that. When they win the
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  Speaker 5: turnover battle, they're 11-0. but they're 9-5 when they don't
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  Speaker 5: win the turnover battle. Meanwhile, and now this is a
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  Speaker 5: little more nuanced, when Seattle has won the big play
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  Speaker 5: percentage by 3.5 points or more, big play rate, Seattle's 14-0,
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  Speaker 5: but they're only 6-5 when they don't. When they win
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  Speaker 5: the EPA expected points added per dropback by 0.1 or more,
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  Speaker 5: they're 16-0. And they have a losing record when they don't.
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  Speaker 5: So if we just focus on, oh, if a quarterback says, well,
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  Speaker 5: I got to stop turning over, stop turning over, stop
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  Speaker 5: turning over, that's going to be a problem. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: if you go back to last year at Pittsburgh, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not going to go through the deals, but look at
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  Speaker 5: the play-by-plays. At Pittsburgh, they were down at halftime. They
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  Speaker 5: had the long post. to Jackson Smith and Jacob. Hell,
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  Speaker 5: they were tied at Arizona with 28 seconds left to go.
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  Speaker 5: They were, they didn't play to overtime. They threw the
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  Speaker 5: ball down the field. They were losing to the Colts
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  Speaker 5: with five 30 to go. They were aggressive. Uh, the
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  Speaker 5: Rams at Jacksonville, they were losing six, three in the
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  Speaker 5: second quarter, all of these times where they said, Hey,
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  Speaker 5: we're going to be aggressive resulted in those wins. And so, um,
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  Speaker 5: I think we're talking about an extremely nuanced part of quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Football is our favorite sport in this country, and quarterback
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  Speaker 5: is the most important position.
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  Speaker 3: And the entire.
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  Speaker 5: Idea of this, and I had asked for Christopher Kidd
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  Speaker 5: to pull the audio that Bo Nix had. Now, you
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  Speaker 5: guys ended up. playing an hour ago, so maybe we'll
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  Speaker 5: forego that. I was going to yield my time to
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  Speaker 5: the Senator Nix from Colorado because I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: that important because he was expressing exactly what quarterbacks go through.
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  Speaker 5: There was.
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  Speaker 5: There was a Harvard psychologist by the name of Daniel Wigner.
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  Speaker 5: You've probably heard about this, the ironic process theory it
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  Speaker 5: was called.
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  Speaker 3: When you think a.
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  Speaker 5: Golfer says, don't hit it in the water, don't hit
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  Speaker 5: it in the water, or don't hit the putt too
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  Speaker 5: far past the hole, all the things you say not
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  Speaker 5: to do, it turns out that this psychologist has clinically
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  Speaker 5: stated that you are more likely to do it. So
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  Speaker 5: it is a very, very delicate and nuanced process when
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  Speaker 5: we just say, don't turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 5: Do you mean like stop.
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  Speaker 3: Throwing the ball down the field?
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  Speaker 5: It's professional football. And so I think Bo Nix in
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  Speaker 5: that audio that we had, the money part for me
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  Speaker 5: is like, hey, he says, hey, I'm going to try
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  Speaker 5: not to throw interceptions, but they're going to happen. And
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  Speaker 5: you can't be paralyzed by it. You can't be paralyzed
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  Speaker 5: because then that will cause you to be late. You'll
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  Speaker 5: second guess. You'll second guess.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I think he's open. Am I sure
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  Speaker 3: he's open?
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  Speaker 5: Well, just that extra, am I sure he's open, causes
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  Speaker 5: you to be late. So I think it's an extremely, again,
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  Speaker 5: nuanced part of playing the position. It's what makes the
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  Speaker 5: position difficult. It's why there's only about 15 guys on
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  Speaker 5: the planet who can do it well. And so to
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  Speaker 5: just kind of just say, well, Well, don't have turnovers, man.
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  Speaker 5: I just I just I want to peel the layers
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  Speaker 5: of the onion and go, what does that mean? You
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Greg? And so maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 5: go ahead and clarify, because I think it's a extremely
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  Speaker 5: interesting conversation we have.
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  Speaker 2: You just you just defined you why he benched it
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  Speaker 2: are in price, but he's not going to bench Sam
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  Speaker 2: Darnold for.
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  Speaker 4: It's totally different because it's totally different.
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  Speaker 2: He wants, and Brian Fleury wants, his quarterback to take
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  Speaker 2: the chances.
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  Speaker 4: And he says this all the time at Donald, cost
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  Speaker 4: of doing business.
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  Speaker 2: He knows if they push the ball down the field,
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  Speaker 2: especially to Smith and Jigby into coverage, where he's so
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  Speaker 2: good in coverage, that the cost of doing business.
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  Speaker 4: Are a couple of interceptions along the way.
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  Speaker 2: What he has absolutely no tolerance for is a running
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  Speaker 2: back dropping the ball in their Seahawks' own territory. So
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  Speaker 2: that's why he benches Price and is going to think
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  Speaker 2: a lot more for Henry tonight. You say 9-5 when
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  Speaker 2: they turn it over, and that's good. But those are
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  Speaker 2: the only five losses they've had since.
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  Speaker 4: The beginning of last season.
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  Speaker 2: McDonald and the defense think– I know the defensive players
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  Speaker 2: think this. Hey, man, just don't give the other team
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  Speaker 2: the ball on our side of the field, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: do our job. They're not going to score multiple touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: a game from the minus 20 with drive starts. But
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  Speaker 2: you get it in the plus 18, the plus 11
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  Speaker 2: in our own end zone.
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  Speaker 4: We can't do anything with that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the emphasis on the turnover part for that.
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  Speaker 2: And then that falls into the running backs because they
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  Speaker 2: are willing to have risk for Darnold throwing the ball
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  Speaker 2: down the pit. And they don't want to have one-yard
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  Speaker 2: routes and one-step throws.
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  Speaker 4: And so that.
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  Speaker 2: Cost of doing business, they'll live with.
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  Speaker 4: It's beyond the cost of doing business that has killed them.
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  Speaker 2: The two fumbles against– the two loss fumbles against San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: the Jadarian Price loss fumble that handed the– commander's the
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  Speaker 2: first touchdown in Washington.
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  Speaker 4: That's the stuff they cannot live with.
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  Speaker 2: And that's part of the problem of having backup running
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  Speaker 2: backs and also letting Kenneth Walker run.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: You, they're not going to change how a quarterback thinks
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  Speaker 2: because that's, Smith and Jigba is not going to get
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  Speaker 2: an all.
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  Speaker 4: Pro last year if they were worried about throwing interceptions. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And, and clearly there's a difference in how you handle
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  Speaker 5: running backs, right? Because it's an entirely different process. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: running back, Hey, Hey, just, You know, you saw the
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  Speaker 5: other night in the Monday night game, Gibbs was after
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  Speaker 5: he fumbled. I mean, he was going through the middle.
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  Speaker 5: He's holding it with two hands. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: do whatever it takes, I think, for the quarterback, because
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  Speaker 5: the original question was about Sam Darnold. And and so
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  Speaker 5: what does he have to do in his mindset? Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't want to throw interceptions, but he can't be
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  Speaker 5: paralyzed by it. And if we're going to credit all
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the wins that they have when they don't turn the
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: ball over, you often have to say that in those wins,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: there's an aggression that is underscored by the fact that
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Darnold was number one in the NFL in yards per dropback,
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: and it has a– whatever the factor is, whatever, you know, well,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: it was 67 times a higher correlation to winning.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: And so when we say, well, they're 11-0 when they
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: win the turnover battle, or they're 8-0 when they have
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: zero turnovers, well, they're also 16-0 when they lead the
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: EPA per dropback by 0.1 or more. I know that
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: that's hard to get an audience who's driving around and
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: trying to make sure they don't run a red light
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: to go, what the hell does that mean? So I
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: know it's a lot easier to say, don't have turnover
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: than for me to say, no, no, no. What's the
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: really important battle, which has a, even for the Seahawks,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: because what I had said before is for the league,
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: but we go for the Seahawks, the Seahawks are 16
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: and oh, and oh, by the way, they have a
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: losing record when they don't.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Hit this mark.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: And that is a mark that is entirely saying Sam
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Donald throw the effing ball down the field. So we
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: have all this data that says throw the ball down
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: the field and we have games that had they not
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: won those games by being aggressive, they wouldn't fall into
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: the turnover category. So again, and I don't want to
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: sound like the quarterback who doesn't care about turnovers. What
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I'm saying is that It is multi-layered. Uh, it is
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: a very complex process. It's what makes quarterback quarterbacking difficult.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: And we heard a minute and two soundbite from Bo
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Nix that really encapsulated that dichotomy that quarterbacks live with about.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: You know, Hey, we'll play it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: We'll play it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: We'll play it on the other side. Uh, we do
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: have to talk about the Broncos. We do have to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: talk about Nix and we do have to mention, uh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: what the running game plan is going to be going
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: into tonight. Looks like Greg can stay with us here
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: for another segment. We've got Hugh Millen here as well,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: 12th man roundtable, game day roundtable on Sports Radio 93.3
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: KJR FM.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: You want to be aggressive, want to be aggressive, want
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: to be aggressive, and then you see stats and you're like, well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: this team is causing the most turnovers in the league.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: And then you're like, OK, well, I can't put my
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: team in a situation where I'm turning the football over
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: and putting our defense in a bad spot, giving them
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: a short field.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, it's like, who cares?
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Why would I go out there worried about throwing an interception?
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Why would I go out there trying to throw every
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: football 50 yards down the field?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Just play the play. If the play's there, hit it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: If it's not there, check it down, run, throw it away, punt.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: That's the play that I was.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Dealt, and I have to do, just remind myself not
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: to play hero ball it's just one play at a
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: time do exactly what I'm supposed to do and who
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: cares if if the play causes me to throw an
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: interception and I forced it and that was there and
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: I liked what I saw it may happen it's happened
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: before it may happen again if it's not there I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: not going to throw it into a team meeting I'm
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: going to check the ball down and we're going to
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: move on and that's just the play that's that's given
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: to me and I have to continue just do that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: There you go that's the uh clip that was referenced
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: by you in the last segment from Bo Nix and
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I think I was just yesterday Yeah, he was.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Asked about how does he strike the balance between being
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: aggressive and not having turnovers. And I think it's one
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: of the best quotes I've ever heard for a quarterback.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Not that I agree with every single word, but it
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: expresses kind of the angst and the yin and the yang,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: the pull. Just me being in quarterback meeting rooms with
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: three Hall of Famers and three additional pro bowl guys
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: and just kind of how the discussion goes with the quarterback,
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: you know, the idea of obviously nobody wants to throw interceptions.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: The key is, but, but the dichotomy is that the
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: more you, you try a, you're probably going to throw
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: more interceptions cause you'd be late. And B if you
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: truly don't, you know, if that's the only thing that
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: you're concerned about, you'll probably lose 13 to nine.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: With no interceptions. Well, that's kind of the way the
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Broncos have been playing so far this year, Greg. Greg,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: if they don't have a running game, which they haven't
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: had so far, and Bo Nix is going to be
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: check down Charlie tonight, does that not feed right into
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald and the way the Seahawks play defense?
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: It does.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, we asked Sam Darnold the same question
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: this week, and he had 99% fewer words and said,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I have to be more decisive. Not nearly as insightful
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: as Bo Nix was in this quandary we're talking about.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman is the guy they drafted from the Washington Huskies,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of course, for this purpose, to give Bo Nix a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: run game. And Jonah Coleman's on the injured reserve list.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: High ankle sprain, got early in the season. He's barely,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I think he's run about 12 times, 15 times the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: whole season. So tonight is the last game Coleman is
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to miss. And when I talked to Parker Gabriel, the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Denver Post buddy of mine that covers the Broncos, he
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: thinks that Jonah Coleman is going to play in 10
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: days when they play at the Arizona Cardinals, the Broncos.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: So in the meantime, it's J.K. Dobbins.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And he only has 220 some yards in five games. So, yes,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the running game has not done anything. And it's Dobbins
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: who's had the preponderance of carries like 60 some carries
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and nobody else in the team has more than 15 yards.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: So that's the Denver run game right now. Former Ohio
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: State and Baltimore Raven J.K. Dobbins, who was not supposed
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to be in this role, much like Emmanuel Wilson, who
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be a short yardage back and is
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: now the lead back at the moment for the Seahawks. Yes,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that starts there. Put Nix in third and long. Make
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: third and long be Nix's quandary. And then he has
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to decide whether he wants to push the ball down
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the field. They'll take a check down on third and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: long because the Seahawks tackle dudes as soon as they
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: catch the pass. And that's been the recipe for the
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Seahawks defense for the last two seasons. Look at Christian
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: McCaffrey and the 49ers offense, which did nothing for three
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: quarters last week until they unlocked Mike Evans on to
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Josh Jobe in the fourth quarter for 11 points. Brock
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Purdy wouldn't do anything. The 21 points were handed to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: him by the Seahawks turnovers.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: So that's the key tonight.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: It's got to be third and eight or nine instead
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of third and two. Sean Payton is a great play
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: caller in third and two, as most NFL offensive minds are.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: The play caller gets a lot less good when it's
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: third and nine and third and 12. And so that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the key tonight is to stop the early down plays.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I expect Denver to throw more on early downs to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: try to make those third downs better for Knicks. As
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: long as Dobbins is the lead running back and not
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman. So it does play into Seattle's hands for sure.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: The other thing on the flip side, we haven't talked
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: about it yet. We're talking about all the injuries in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the secondary. It sounds like the safety may play. He's questionable,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: but yeah, The Broncos are giving up 145 yards a
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: game on the ground.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: And we're starting to get into the point of.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: The season now, late mid-October, where those are starting to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: become trends rather than one-offs. Of course, Kenneth Walker and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs just romped over the Chargers in week one,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: 220-some yards total rushing. It skews that number a little bit.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: But teams, including the Chargers last week, are having success
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: running the ball on Denver, especially on first and second down.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And then if you get third and two on the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: flip side for Darnold, Here we go.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: The whole offense opens up. There's going to be a week, guys,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: by the way, that A.J. Barner is going to emerge
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and look like he did in training camp.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: When's that coming?
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: If they are going to go back to more training
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: camp plays, A.J. Barner could have a big night.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: All right, Greg, you probably got to catch your plane.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to get nervous for you. So we'll let
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: you go, and I'll let Hugh.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: It's still here.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's still here?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I do want to get Hugh's thoughts on the running game.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, so they give up a lot on
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the ground, but... Are we really going to try to
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: win another football game with Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: here tonight? It doesn't look like we have a choice.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I don't have a choice, and I think it's most
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: concerning because you've invested. It's been stated. You've been a
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: top five in terms of attempts, a team in terms
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: of the wide zone, and you've got guys that just
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: can't run the wide zone. They don't have the speed.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: It doesn't work. You have to– the running back is
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: looking to see if the edge gets hooked. Now, often
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: it doesn't, but if it does, the defense has to
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: flow at a rate that they have to get all
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: the way to the edge. And if Barner can hook
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: the end man on the line of scrimmage, if that's
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: in the formation, then you've got to have that green light,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: like go, sprint to get to the edge. And neither...
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Helani nor Wilson have that speed. And so then it
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: ends up cutting back your, your naked bootleg game suffers
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: because now the, the linebackers aren't flowing as fast. So,
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: so they can stop and turn and cover more. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: it impacts the play action game. It's a, it's a problem.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Seattle took a risk when they chose Kenneth Walker and, and,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: and look, I haven't heard one single Seahawk fan that
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: has decried the signing of JSN or, or, Witherspoon, or
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: even Leonard Williams. That is not on the table in
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: this discussion. What is on the table is Rashid Shaheed.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: And you use a number one draft pick to replace
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: a 25-year-old Kenneth Walker. You could have used the draft
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: to replace what Rashid Shaheed has given you. And I
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: think thus far, past the quarter poll of the season,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: this appears to be a bad decision. And it's exacerbated
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: by the idea that Jadarian Price, on the night of
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: the draft, you were there, Chuck, I said, wait a minute,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: he's 10 pounds less at the combine than his listed
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: weight at Notre Dame. Asked him about that. Then, first
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: day at training camp, he's like, whoa, what's with the dudes?
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: He looks like wide receiver legs. Those are not running
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: back legs. I'm concerned about the durability. That's been voiced.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: You just look at his frame. You look at his weight.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Here we are with a guy that is missing extremely
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: valuable time. Right now, the risk that Seattle chose to
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: take on this position, it's, you know, it, I think
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: they have, I think they're right. Number 32 as presently constituted, uh, Greg,
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I think that they are number 32 out of 32
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: teams in this league at the halfback position.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: With Jonah Coleman out, Denver might be right behind them
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: or even what they might be. Um, but you know what, what.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: The, It got so bad last week. He was talking
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: about the.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Lack of speed and decisive cuts that Price gives you
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in outside zone with Wilson just more of a plotting back.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: And Helani, let's face it, Helani is miscast.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: He's a special teams player who's supposed to have a
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: limited role on third down, the maybe block, and he's
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: getting primary carries out of his own end. That's on
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: first down.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: He's miscast.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But they were going to a lot more three tight
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: ends last week against the 49ers and run an outside
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: zone out of three tight ends, sometimes all three to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the same side. Because they're trying to get the edge
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: secured longer so that the plotting dump trucks can get
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: through the hole.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Basically what their offense looks like at times when they
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: tried to run the ball last week. That's not at
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: all what John Benton in the outside zone is supposed
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to be. They do believe in Price because of the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: decisive cuts and why they drafted him in the first round.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Because of his decisive cuts and speed, I'm not ready
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: to check out on Price because it's only four or
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: three games into his career. I think, again, you're going
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to see Robert Henry tonight. Nobody's talking about him, but
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: he could be the speed guy. He also had fumble problems.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Hey, Greg, real quick. Helani as a third down guy,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: he obviously had the missed block that cost Darnold to
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: get hurt. He's had a number of missed blocks. An
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: hour before Monday's show, I went on Just to see PFF,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: out of 73 running halfbacks, qualified halfbacks, his pass block
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: grade was the worst. You start in PFF, you start
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: with a 60 before you've had a play, and you
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: either go up or down from 60. His pass block
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: grade is 16.1.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: 16.1, 73rd out of 73rd.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: So even the role that we may profess that he
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: is carved for, he is not fulfilling even that portion,
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: let alone the running part of it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Over the center. And that's Bruins play as a quarterback.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Greg, please go catch your plane. I'm so stressed out
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: about this.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: The gate's not even open. I couldn't go if I
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: wanted to. All right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I got a break anyway. So thanks, man. We
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Maybe we'll get your score on the other side.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe you'll be in first class having yourself a cocktail.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. All right. Our 12th Man Roundtable continues
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Now back to Chuck in the morning in the 12th
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Man Roundtable with Greg Bell and Hugh Millen. Brought to
• 30:23
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• 30:27
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• 30:33
  Speaker 3: All right, final segment of our 12th Man Roundtable here
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: on this Thursday. And Greg Bell looks like he's got
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: a flight delay, so he is able to finish out
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the 12th. That's right, four quarters. Played four quarters around here.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: And Greg Bell is back for the fourth quarter to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: finish this thing off. And we always start the final
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: segment with Greg anyway. So, Greg, give me your keys.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Give me your final score tonight.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving you the full 90 is the Sounders.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Date change, plane change. I got some time. You know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I just don't see J.K.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Dobbins shredding the Seahawks' defense with the running ball, running
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the ball tonight. And that plays right into Seattle's hands,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: like you said, Chuck. I don't see him becoming the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Ohio State version of J.K.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Dobbins.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to put Bo Nix in a
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: bad spot. I think they're going to pressure him. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: think he's going to turn the ball over. The things
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: he's done so far to be a sub-60% passer and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: have the Broncos' offense kind of in arrears.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say this.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: At running the risk of the correlation argument on turnovers again.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: But I believe if the Seahawks don't turn the ball over,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: there's only one, maybe two offenses on the Seahawks schedule
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that will score multiple touchdowns and drive in the Lincoln field.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: That's Sean McVay's Rams and maybe Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and the Bears on November 2nd. Even the Chiefs. We'll
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: call three offenses. The Chiefs with Kenneth Walker rolling the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: way he is. Those are the only three teams that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: if you don't turn the ball over, you're going to win. Otherwise,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: on their schedule, if the Seahawks don't turn the ball over,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: their defense is going to play well enough to win
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the games. And I think that's what's going to happen tonight.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: 20-10, 20-13.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And I think Darnold, we'll feel a lot better about
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Darnold tomorrow morning is my prediction because of the way
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: he throws the ball tonight.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: All right, Anders, what's your final score? What's your key?
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I kind of predicted the full four-quarter
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: performance from the Seahawks last week, and I was a
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: little bit wrong, but I'm going to roll it forward
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: to this week. I think they finally put it all together.
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: Somewhat of a blowout. I think they may, like, they're
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: going to dominate on the defensive side of the ball.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: 24-13 Seattle Seahawks.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Easy win. Did we get a score, Greg? I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: think we got a score.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I said 20-13.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, 20-13?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: 20-10, 20-13.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. One touchdown only. All right, Hugh, where
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: are we going to wrap this up? Where are we going?
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Well, based on the first segment, I'm going to fall
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: back to win the EPA per dropback by 0.1 or
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: more because Seattle's 16-0 when they do that as opposed
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  Speaker 5: to winning the turnover battle, which they're 11-0. Where I'm
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  Speaker 5: going with this is let's have some respect for Bo
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  Speaker 5: Nix in this regard. Since the 2025 season, 10 of
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  Speaker 5: 23 starts, including the playoffs, 43.5% game-winning drives. That's second
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  Speaker 5: all-time since 1950s when they started counting in the history
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  Speaker 5: of the league, that percentage. He's got 35% of his
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: starts have been comebacks. Since he came into the league
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  Speaker 5: in 2024, 32% of his starts have resulted in a
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  Speaker 5: game-winning drive. He's putting up ridiculous percentage rates in terms
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  Speaker 5: of fourth quarter comebacks and game-winning drives. When you pair
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  Speaker 5: that with Seattle this year, go back to last week,
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  Speaker 5: Brock Purdy, his passer rating through that first interception, or
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: the only interception, was 58. But from that point on,
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks defense kind of collapsed in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: Purdy had 138 passer rating. He had been pressured on 52%.
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  Speaker 5: Of his plays prior to the interception, just 15% after.
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  Speaker 5: You go back to the commander game with two big
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  Speaker 5: third downs on defense where they couldn't get a stop.
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  Speaker 5: Even the Patriot game where they had that crazy interception
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  Speaker 5: at the end by Jobe and the terrible play by
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Drake May. But the Patriots drove the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 5: This is not characteristic of the Seattle defense a year ago.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still of the belief it's the best defense ever.
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL, you know, headed by the best coach
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL. But on that little nuance this year, Greg.
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  Speaker 5: They have not been a clutch defense, and you're going
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  Speaker 5: against a quarterback, even though he's had his struggles. They
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: believe in themselves, particularly in that building, how they turn
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  Speaker 5: around that Ram game down 16 to nothing. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: they can flip it, and they believe that they have
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  Speaker 5: the man in Bo Nix to flip it, and they've
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  Speaker 5: got the numbers to prove it. So Seattle's got to
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: get clutch on defense tonight in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: All right, gentlemen. Greg's trying to weigh in, but I
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: don't hear his audio right now. All right, gentlemen, great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Greg, have a safe flight. Hugh, we will
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: talk to you tomorrow. We'll talk to you both tomorrow,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: as a matter of fact. So that's going to bring
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: it into the 12-man roundtable here. Game day edition, Broncos-Seahawks
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: tonight at 5.15. Coming up next, we're going to continue
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: to celebrate Broncos football. Seahawks game day. And we're going
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: to play the age game. We're going to figure out
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: who's the best in discrimination and our next segment. So
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: we're going to need a contestant on the line at
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: two Oh six, two, eight, six, 95, 95. Um, we
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: just need to know your age. That's the only requirement.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: You got to be willing to tell us your age.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: So we need a contestant two Oh six, two, eight, six, 95,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: 95 to play. The age game next. Brand new to
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  Speaker 3: Chuck in the Mornings on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.