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- 0:05OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast primarily about women's
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- 0:26I am your host Dino suspicious and as always, I am joined by my
- 0:29Co host, Mr. Grant Angle. What is up man?
- 0:32I'm feeling fantastic, buddy. This was a very good week in
- 0:37NWSL football, one that I think worthy of an adult beverage.
- 0:42Or two perhaps? Oh, look at you.
- 0:47Oh, wow, almost. The synergy, the alignment.
- 0:51That's what I'm talking about. Cheers.
- 0:53Cheers to you buddy. Yeah, man, as you mentioned,
- 0:59tons of great, great football to talk about.
- 1:01I've got takes, I've got thoughts, I've got feels, I've
- 1:04got emotions, a bag, if you will, of things that I want to
- 1:07kind of unleash on today's episode.
- 1:09But I want to kick it right back to you.
- 1:11Little 1-2 action to start off the show.
- 1:13Where do you want to get started?
- 1:15We are recording this on Monday, June 24th and there's some news
- 1:21of the day that came out. So let's go into the news.
- 1:24We're reviving this wonderful segment.
- 1:27Not so wonderful for Casey Stoney though.
- 1:29Casey Stoney out as manager of the San Diego Wave.
- 1:33The club announced today that they are quote parting ways with
- 1:36manager Casey Stoney. I was surprised.
- 1:39I'll just get right to that the The Wave.
- 1:42As you might recall if you have a memory longer than 10 months,
- 1:46The Wave won the 2023 NWSL Shield.
- 1:50They started this season by winning another trophy when they
- 1:53won the Challenge Cup over Gotham FC.
- 1:55Now it is also worth pointing out that they lost a home
- 1:58playoff game to the Seattle Rain last season, and they currently
- 2:01sit at three wins, 6 draws, 5 losses, and 9th in the table
- 2:07with a roster that probably shouldn't be there.
- 2:10You know, I I did feel bad for Casey Stoney as well because we
- 2:13see this in other sports. You break out the checkbook,
- 2:17make a lot of big moves and Rio Sanchez move, obviously a huge
- 2:19one. They had a lot of offseason
- 2:21moves as well and then big name marquee players on that roster.
- 2:25And I think we've kind of been on it the whole season.
- 2:28You know, there's something just looked very, very off with this
- 2:30waveside. I even commented last week going
- 2:33to that Houston match. I'm like, all right, you're
- 2:34playing the dash bottom of the like a like a like a proper
- 2:37bottom of the table type team, even though they're pesky.
- 2:40And I said I'm like, I think they have to get a win.
- 2:42They have to get 3 points and for a stretch, they look like
- 2:47the better team. But for huge chunks of that
- 2:49match against Houston, they looked on Houston's level.
- 2:52And it's in some spots, like the last 1520 minutes in particular,
- 2:56they did not look. I mean, obviously it's tough
- 2:58because they played the midweek match as well, going to Houston,
- 3:02contending with the Heat. Great friend of the pod at Iron
- 3:05Gazi, Stan checked in to confirm that the Heat was a sitch.
- 3:12It was not not a thing. And they couldn't get it done.
- 3:16You know, there's a zero bite to their offense.
- 3:18I'm not sure how much of that is Stony, but you know, from the
- 3:21outside looking in, looks to be like also a leadership vacuum
- 3:25there. Yeah, I think you're right.
- 3:26I think it's, I think time will tell.
- 3:29You know how these stories always kind of start to
- 3:31matriculate out after a manager or any kind of coach leaves or
- 3:35even sometimes when a star player leaves, you start to hear
- 3:37the stories, you talk about potential leadership, vacuum
- 3:40them kind of looking a little just like stagnant on the pitch.
- 3:44Sometimes. I'm saying this, I I don't, I
- 3:46have not done any reporting on this.
- 3:48I don't have any inside information.
- 3:50But you commonly see that they, yeah, the results weren't there,
- 3:53but maybe there was some other stuff going on behind the
- 3:56scenes. You know, I think sometimes
- 3:58people lose track of the idea that this is a job for these
- 4:01folks. And these are people with
- 4:03personalities. And you think about, you know,
- 4:05workplace dynamics and who blames who when a project
- 4:08doesn't go well, who blames who, You know, when Alex Morgan's not
- 4:12standing in the right spot or, you know, just her picking her
- 4:15out of the sky as an example. But I think it'll be very
- 4:17interesting to see how you go from 10/6 and six in your first
- 4:23season in the league and finishing third in the table as
- 4:26an expansion franchise to then winning the NWSO Shield, to then
- 4:30sitting at three wins, 6 draws, 5 losses and you're fired after
- 4:3314 weeks. I think there is more of this
- 4:36story to be told. You're probably right about
- 4:38that. The reason I kind of brought up
- 4:40the example of what we see in other sports is somebody ends up
- 4:45being accountable, you know, and I'm not sure, obviously the
- 4:48mechanics behind the scenes there, but the team as an
- 4:51organization decides to bring in a bunch of players.
- 4:53Those moves don't work. You know, whose fault is it?
- 4:56No way to tell. You know, it's a fault pie.
- 4:59I'll just like break out the pie that you like to kind of
- 5:01introduce. Everybody's got a slice of the
- 5:04fault pie to some degree. But with that said, you know,
- 5:08you look at the extremely soft edge of this offense.
- 5:11Just twelve goals over 14 matches, That's brutal. 6
- 5:15assists total this season. So Cory Bethune has eight, whole
- 5:19team with six. And then for every goal that
- 5:23they scored, it takes them 13.6 shots this season.
- 5:27That's second worst in the league.
- 5:29I don't think it helped them that Jaden Shaw also was like
- 5:33extremely hyped coming off some like insane USW and T matches,
- 5:39right? That really just kind of fueled
- 5:41maybe like some larger expectations than were
- 5:44warranted. Sure.
- 5:45But either way, things were way, way, way off in San Diego.
- 5:49I think, you know, it's something we've talked about
- 5:50quite a bit on this show. Sucks to see for Sony because I
- 5:53think, you know, she is a good manager from what from what we
- 5:56can see. But I'm with you.
- 5:57I wouldn't be surprised if stuff starts to trickle out here.
- 6:00Yeah, it's probably only in a matter of time she can count her
- 6:03lucky stars, though I doubt she'll get the VLATCO treatment
- 6:06with the full documentary, so she can rest easy knowing that
- 6:10that's not coming out. But yeah, you know, I wish her
- 6:12well. I I just think the Wave haven't
- 6:14won a match since May 8th, and that was at home against Utah
- 6:18Royals. In that span they are zero wins,
- 6:215 draws, 2 losses. I think if you're not the shield
- 6:26winning manager from the previous season, I don't think a
- 6:29lot of people raise an eyebrow if you get fired after a stretch
- 6:32like that with the talent on this roster.
- 6:34I just go back to my caveman brain where I'm just like man,
- 6:37they got a lot of good players and this coach just won and they
- 6:41didn't start particularly fast last season.
- 6:43So I will say I was surprised, but the more like the numbers
- 6:47that you went over 12 goals in 14 matches, 6 total assists with
- 6:52that kind of skill level on the field.
- 6:54Even if I've seen some people say that they thought like
- 6:56McCaskill has been like a little disappointing as one of the
- 6:59additions that they got. And obviously you had Sanchez
- 7:02late and she you got to integrate her into the offense.
- 7:05Even still, I think the points you made about their stagnant
- 7:08offense, I could see why management made the decision
- 7:11they did. Yeah, for sure.
- 7:13And we'll obviously keep an eye on Casey Stoney where where she
- 7:16lands next. I'm sure that franchise will be
- 7:18very happy to be able to to be able to bring her in.
- 7:22And then for San Diego, you know, we'll see how much of the
- 7:25issue was the manager. I think we're going to learn a
- 7:28lot. On one hand, it feels like the
- 7:30season's still sort of brand new, but the reality is too that
- 7:33we're already in the back half of the season and that was part
- 7:37of our big wave dash preview from last week.
- 7:39It's like we're getting into deep ish waters.
- 7:42It's very risky to be kind of like mulding around.
- 7:45It's not like this team's like fifth or six, right?
- 7:47You know, they've been pretty consistently in the bottom three
- 7:49or four of the standings. So it's it's more than just off
- 7:53track. This kind of feels a little bit
- 7:55broken and maybe trending towards somewhat of a lost
- 7:58season for San Diego, but who knows, Still a lot of football
- 8:01to be played. Maybe this serves as a kind of
- 8:04like a a galvanizing event for them.
- 8:06You always look for the new manager bounce, so it'll be
- 8:08interesting. They are at home on Friday
- 8:11against the Chicago Red Stars and then the following week on
- 8:15July 5th, they are in Portland to play the Thorns.
- 8:19So always interesting to see in any sport.
- 8:22What kind of new manager bounce are you going to get?
- 8:24You see it in the Premier League all the time.
- 8:26A club will fire a manager, but right before like the softer
- 8:29part of the schedule, there's like a almost APR thing that
- 8:32they're doing there being like, hey, look, we we got the right
- 8:35person. I do not think playing the Stars
- 8:37and then playing the Red Stars, pardon me, playing the Red Stars
- 8:40and then playing the Thorns. I don't think that's the soft
- 8:42part of the schedule. So it'll be very intriguing to
- 8:44see how that works out. Totally, totally agree.
- 8:47I want to shift gears here because this weekend was a big
- 8:51weekend for the contenders. We've talked about, you know,
- 8:56top three. We've talked about a top four.
- 8:58Should we have expanded to a top five?
- 9:01Three teams really shined very, very bright this weekend.
- 9:05I want to start with my hometown, Orlando Pride, who
- 9:08looked absolutely unstoppable. They are right on Casey's heels.
- 9:12They're even on points. One goal separates them with
- 9:15regard to goal differential. For me, this was the most
- 9:18thorough, most impressive win of the season for any team.
- 9:20Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, six NIL is pretty
- 9:24convincing, even if it is against the team at the bottom
- 9:26of the table. Utah kind of was living
- 9:29dangerously in the in the beginning of this match.
- 9:31I think Mike Watts said as much. He may have used that exact
- 9:34term. I think somewhere around like
- 9:35the 30th minute when the Pride were just continuously
- 9:38threatening. But I think once they get that
- 9:40second goal right before halftime, it was like, oh, there
- 9:43goes the dam. It's completely broken.
- 9:45I didn't think it would be to the tune of six, but I mean,
- 9:49they can just score from anywhere and they just turned
- 9:51defense into offense so fast. We've used the reference before.
- 9:55What's another high flying offense we can use?
- 9:58That's maybe not the Greatest Show on turf for you guys, but
- 10:01you guys are looking like the 1980s San Francisco 49ers or
- 10:04maybe the Dan Marino Dolphins with Mark Duper and Mark Clayton
- 10:08or something like that. Like you guys just score from
- 10:11anywhere, whatever you want, yeah.
- 10:12A little bit of 2007 Pats baby baby Moss.
- 10:16That's a in the conversation I would say I want to rewind back
- 10:20to the match that I covered against BFCI, asked Seb Hines in
- 10:23the post game presser. Specifically my question was,
- 10:26hey, lots of offensive talent in that match against BFC, 25
- 10:29shots, just the one goal. And then my question was, hey,
- 10:33what's the plan offensively to cash in a little bit more?
- 10:36I went back to revisit what his answer was to that because I
- 10:39think that was a little bit over a month ago and they had the two
- 10:43draws in there, but they've looked explosive since.
- 10:46He mentioned a couple things. He mentioned decision making and
- 10:49execution the final third. He also expressed optimism
- 10:52saying, quote, we're getting into the right areas, getting
- 10:54into good positive positions, End Quote.
- 10:56He also said there's a lot of competition within this group of
- 10:59players as well. I think Seb may have found his
- 11:02eight attackers. So one thing that I noticed in
- 11:05this one, they had eight players that were just go forward all
- 11:09the time, foot on the gas, just go Banda, Marta, Adriana, Julie
- 11:14Doyle Mccutchen, Carrie Abello, Brianna Martinez, Summer Yates.
- 11:17So you mentioned that summer Yates goal before halftime.
- 11:20Here's how all the link UPS went for the goals for the six goals.
- 11:23Abello to Banda for the first one.
- 11:25Summer Yates off a turnover, Marta on a cross in from
- 11:28Adriana, Banda off a turnover. So it's two, two players that
- 11:32converted turnover into a goal unassisted.
- 11:35Marta again, Bond on the assist and finally Aliwatt another
- 11:39assisted Banda. So like you said, every
- 11:41direction, whatever way you want it, you know, Bond is like all
- 11:44right, I'll score 2 and then I'll just get 2 assists before I
- 11:47get out of here, hit the showers.
- 11:48Just, you know, just. I'm glad you lay it out that way
- 11:51because it's, it's funny, you know, we, we watch these
- 11:53matches, we cover these matches. And like, just like my
- 11:56overarching feeling is like, God, you just never know where
- 12:00the offense is coming from. And then you spell it out like
- 12:02that. It's just got to be a nightmare
- 12:04for every opposing coach. Like, what are you trying to
- 12:07limit in that case? So because you know, you're not
- 12:10taking away Banda, that's off the table.
- 12:12You're not taking away Marta. No chance.
- 12:14So OK, do we try to limit Banda? I don't even know if you can
- 12:17limit her now. Now you have all these other
- 12:19players with such great quality who can, who can play passes in
- 12:22but can also score. I mean, they're just a, they're
- 12:24just a complete nightmare and we haven't even yet talked about
- 12:28they have a smart organized defense right behind those those
- 12:31other attacking players. Oh yeah, this is their second
- 12:33straight shut out. I I brought this eleven goals
- 12:36allowed stat. I think it's been a few weeks
- 12:38where I'm just like, Yep, 11 and like every every week it takes
- 12:41up one match. So it's like, Yep, eleven goals
- 12:43allowed still in 14 matches. What's interesting, though, is
- 12:46statistically they're in the middle of the pack with regard
- 12:49to almost all of these major defensive categories outside of
- 12:52goals allowed, you know, they're not really taking the ball away
- 12:54at a high rate. They're not really, you know,
- 12:56tackling or intercepting or block like they're sort of top
- 13:00four somewhere between 4:00 and 9:00 in most of these categories
- 13:03except goals. When you watch them though,
- 13:06they're smothering everything. And I think you're so afraid of
- 13:10of like the counter or the fast break, however you want to think
- 13:13about that, that it really messes with teams minds.
- 13:16And I think when you think about what they're able to do
- 13:19offensively, in their last six matches, they're averaging 18.1
- 13:23shots per game. That's insane.
- 13:26Yeah. That's, that's a shot every 5
- 13:28minutes roughly against Utah. I know it's Utah, but 27 shots,
- 13:3412 on target, six goals. That's that's off the charts.
- 13:38Doesn't even put it into into the proper context in terms of
- 13:41what we saw and. I just want to I want to go
- 13:43through Utah's last five matches.
- 13:47And so I'll I'll start back on May 17th.
- 13:50They lose at North Carolina, one nil.
- 13:53They lose at home to Kansas City, one nil.
- 13:56They lose at home to Washington Spirit one nil.
- 14:00Then they get A1 nil victory over Bay FC and then they lose 6
- 14:04to nothing. So like, you know, they haven't
- 14:06been giving up in in that run of games.
- 14:08They're giving up 1A match essentially.
- 14:10And then Banda and company stroll into down and you just
- 14:14get run off the field. Yeah.
- 14:16I mean, Banda specifically, you know, she was torturing Tejada
- 14:19and just running Pat like there was just no, no, she just did
- 14:23that thing which just runs around you.
- 14:24It's like I'm not even going to run parallel to where you are
- 14:26because I don't want you reaching out and grabbing me and
- 14:28fouling me. Just going to loop around.
- 14:29And I know that I've still got enough speed to get to where I'm
- 14:32trying to go. But yeah, to your point, the
- 14:34Royals coming into this one giving up 21 goals in 13
- 14:38matches, roughly a goal and 1/2 per match over the entire
- 14:41season. So given up six.
- 14:44Not really on anyone's bingo card, I would say.
- 14:47I actually thought their goalkeeper Amanda Hot was not
- 14:50bad. Actually, I think they could
- 14:52have given up this. Could have gotten maybe shade
- 14:56under double digits if Hot had had an off night, made some
- 14:59saves, made some plays. This one could have been even
- 15:01worse, I think. I think she's a solid keeper.
- 15:03I think last I checked when we were doing the the MVP episode
- 15:08and I was looking at some goalkeeper stats, I think she
- 15:10leads the league in saves. Now, part of that is that she is
- 15:13being pelted with shots from Utah.
- 15:16Admittedly not awesome defense, but you see it in those numbers.
- 15:20We're talking about the last five.
- 15:21She's not letting in a lot and she's under a lot of pressure.
- 15:25So I think you're right on the assessment with her.
- 15:27I've seen her make some really great saves.
- 15:29I think in their opening match I thought she made like two or
- 15:32three brilliant saves and like their inaugural well, I guess
- 15:37their return match back to the league.
- 15:38So you know, tough spot for her. You know that left footed Marta
- 15:42strike that like she tucks into the lower corner.
- 15:45It's like I I don't care what goalkeeper you are, you're not
- 15:48saving that. That's a great point because
- 15:51Orlando was going to score on anybody on that on that night,
- 15:54you know, and for them to kind of like just cash in on three
- 15:57more goals, you know, the last what, like 10 plus minutes of
- 16:00the match, just it's insane. It really is insane.
- 16:04And then juxtapose against the wave, like again, we opened the
- 16:08show with just twelve goals of the season.
- 16:10Orlando puts up half of that in in just 90 plus minutes.
- 16:14I want to shift gears one more time to match it.
- 16:19I was pretty pumped about Gotham FC hosting Washington Spirit.
- 16:23This one went down Sunday. I think they moved the kickoff
- 16:25time back a little bit to combat some of the heat.
- 16:28Yep, Washington looked pretty solid.
- 16:30I think they probably shelled out some extra cash for the
- 16:33quiet car and those first class of seller tickets 'cause they
- 16:37look nice and rested and just mentally prepared to take on
- 16:40this Gotham side. I mean, you were right on it.
- 16:43You told people to look out for a Rodman game.
- 16:45To everybody watching the show, we appreciate you.
- 16:48We appreciate you. That's why you watched the show
- 16:50for those kind of Nuggets from Dino.
- 16:52He he's out here. Drop you.
- 16:54You knew it. You're a seer, you're a sooth
- 16:56Sayer. You you saw that Rodman was
- 16:58going to have a game. And I think we just talked about
- 17:00it on the very short list of teams you don't want to play on
- 17:03short rest. Washington spirit is is right
- 17:06there. The intelligence of Bethune, the
- 17:08quickness of SAR and Rodman and their play making ability, the
- 17:12fact that they never make anything easy on you.
- 17:16As it started to play out silly red carded refereeing decisions
- 17:20aside, that almost felt a little bit.
- 17:25And please tell me if I'm I'm doing revisionist history or
- 17:27like benefit of hindsight here. It felt a little bit like a
- 17:30scheduled loss, but it's a scheduled loss because the
- 17:34Spirit are so damn good and you just, you wish you had a more
- 17:37level playing field against a squad like that.
- 17:39Yeah, I mean, I kind of went back and forth a little bit in
- 17:42my head. I was like, right, well, is
- 17:43Washington this good? Or is this Gotham's second game
- 17:46in five nights, Right? Probably somewhere in the
- 17:49middle, probably, but I probably would lean towards Washington.
- 17:53Is this good? I think they are kind of the
- 17:55better team. Gotham sorely missed Lynn
- 17:58Williams and Esther Gonzalez managing just two shots on
- 18:01target. Even still, with a solid lineup
- 18:03of creative players active and available.
- 18:06To just kind of have those two on target, that's really tough.
- 18:09I did kind of want to get a little bit into Cory Bethune.
- 18:12So she has that run early. I mean, she's basically not even
- 18:16a super. She's a quantum computer at this
- 18:18point. I mean, her brain is just
- 18:19operating at a different level. So in that first run, she draws
- 18:223 defenders even though Courtney Brown is running free as can be,
- 18:27just right in the middle of the park.
- 18:29You know, just totally unmarked 3 on Bethune who still finds a
- 18:33way to get the ball to Brown. One touch and fire from Brown,
- 18:36one nil spirit. They're off and running.
- 18:38The way she curled that pass around those three defenders
- 18:42directly into the path of Brown. I don't know.
- 18:45I mean, we just you can't say enough about this young player.
- 18:49I did my very sports radio talking to soft voice and then
- 18:52compare her to some of the great players in the game.
- 18:55I stand by it. I mean, you know, as much stock
- 18:58as we could possibly buy. We started buying it early.
- 19:01Just keep on buying it. I mean, it's it's maturing very
- 19:04nicely. She's already like we talked
- 19:07about, we put her in our MVP mix.
- 19:08She's absolutely one of the best players in the league right now
- 19:12today. Yep, and there's not a good
- 19:14argument against it. Not at all on this on the second
- 19:18goal. So the second goal featured a
- 19:21pass that might have been even better than the first pass.
- 19:24So Bethune jukes Delaney Sheehan pretty much halfway off the
- 19:26screen, slices a ball ahead to Casey Krueger that dissects
- 19:30Crystal dud Mandy Freeman with basically 6 inches on each side.
- 19:34Just like the narrowest of margins, perfect ball travels 20
- 19:39plus yards on the ground and not only does it hit Kruger in
- 19:42stride, but it also reroutes her to like a more direct path
- 19:47towards the goal. Like Kruger's like kind of like
- 19:49looping in a kind of a roundabout way.
- 19:51But Thune puts the ball, it's like, no, no, no, bring it back
- 19:53in. Bring it back in.
- 19:55Maybe 3-4 touches from there, from Kruger.
- 19:57She finds Rodman. You know, your boy was all over
- 20:00it. I think you also I wasn't sure
- 20:02if it was this match or the KC match where you suggested that.
- 20:06The groundskeeper batten down the the hatches on on the on the
- 20:09goal posts that Rodman one was top two this weekend.
- 20:14We'll get into the the the other contender, but that one was a
- 20:17she detonated on that one. Casey Krueger has been awesome
- 20:22on this team. And you're totally right about
- 20:24the way very Patrick Mahomes ask of like, no, no, I need you to
- 20:28go this way. And Casey Krueger very Travis
- 20:31Kelsey like, Oh yeah, yeah, I got you.
- 20:33And then I'm gonna do the exact a perfect amazing thing to get
- 20:37where I need to go. I mean, what Krueger carries the
- 20:40ball on that play 30 plus yards, 40 yards, whatever, you know,
- 20:44whatever it is. She's just been awesome with
- 20:46Krueger and Gabby Carl back there.
- 20:49I think Tara McCown has been really good this year too.
- 20:52Like they just got a lot of stars on this team.
- 20:55Like like actual like Bethune and Rodman and SAR.
- 20:59We might be talking superstar players.
- 21:02I think with Rodman, that's established.
- 21:03With Bethune, she's walking right into that.
- 21:06I think, you know, with SAR as well.
- 21:08But we have superstars and then we have also players who are
- 21:11stars in their role. I didn't even mention Andy
- 21:13Sullivan yet. We got a title race buddy.
- 21:16We got a title race, and I definitely have to correct you,
- 21:19Corey Bethune is absolutely a star, right?
- 21:22She is absolutely in the conversation of best player in
- 21:25the NWSLI mean, you know, I think she's creeping up that
- 21:29that MVP ballot in a very, very legit way.
- 21:32I mean, if this team wins the shield and Bethune is, I mean,
- 21:36she's having the best season for the spirit side.
- 21:39She's automatically a top three top four candidate just based on
- 21:43what she's doing. And I think you were on this a
- 21:46couple weeks ago. She is the hub of the offense.
- 21:48Like they're looking to find her very quickly, as evidenced by
- 21:52that second goal. And I totally cosigned the
- 21:54Krueger point. She's been awesome.
- 21:56You know, we mentioned this as well.
- 21:58She knows what she's got up front.
- 21:59Yeah. So for her, it's grab go.
- 22:02And she's the kind of player that knows that the path to
- 22:05winning is finding one of those awesome, awesome attacking
- 22:09players in stride with something very clean.
- 22:11And. And that's exactly what
- 22:13happened. I think at this point we've had
- 22:15a lot of Olympics discussions. Can Emma Hayes keep Croy Bethune
- 22:21off this roster? As an uncapped player, and I
- 22:24was, I was also just glancing at the roster again because I knew
- 22:27I left somebody off. We haven't even said the name
- 22:29Hal Hirschfeld, yet, another rookie who's playing fantastic,
- 22:32who was on the main roster these last set of friendlies while
- 22:36Bethune was one of those like, training players for those South
- 22:40Korea matches. I always say, and I've said it
- 22:43for a long time watching football, is that your club form
- 22:48has to matter when you select the national team.
- 22:51It's one of my great pet peeves when national team managers are
- 22:54like, well, this player has played well for us in past
- 22:57tournaments. And I'm just like, OK, what
- 22:58about the player who is playing great and in super form right
- 23:02now? Yeah, God.
- 23:03I mean, she's uncapped. So it's it's it's a thing.
- 23:07It's not nothing that she hasn't played real minutes with the
- 23:10rest of the team. I just don't know how you leave
- 23:13her off. She's too good, like you're
- 23:15saying, like she's one of the best players in one of the best
- 23:18leagues. The other thing is that it's not
- 23:20like she's a player. I'm not going to call anybody
- 23:23out by name, but sometimes we see players that kind of right
- 23:26place, right time. They're on good teams, they're
- 23:28on super teams. A lot of poachers type goals,
- 23:31sure. So they rack up good, impressive
- 23:33numbers. But that's not what we're
- 23:35seeing. We're seeing somebody like
- 23:38mentally dominating the game, physically dominating the game.
- 23:42I mean, I'm going to go one more cross sport comparison.
- 23:44She kind of reminds me of Luca in the sense that, oh wow, she
- 23:48goes at her own speed. She sees the entire field.
- 23:51She knows what everybody's going to do.
- 23:53You know, she totally baited everybody into following her
- 23:57away from goal to kind of open up that space for Brown and then
- 24:00has the skills to slide that pass through four legs, you
- 24:04know, because like, two of the defenders were sort of
- 24:07positioned in between Bethune and Brown.
- 24:09Yeah. And no chance going at that
- 24:11speed. You already know the ball is
- 24:13going to find its way to Brown and she's able to cash in.
- 24:16And like, that's that's essentially the game.
- 24:19I thought that was one more kind of cool moment. 90th minute
- 24:22Aubrey Kingsbury sort of a statement save on the Katie
- 24:25Stengel PK. We knew where it was going, had
- 24:28a beat on it and maybe wanted to send a message a little bit To
- 24:32me, it kind of feels like Gotham FC is kind of covered a little
- 24:35bit like the Yankees, the Lakers, like, oh, well, you
- 24:38know, we already know that, you know, this team like kind of
- 24:41sleeping giant. And it's like, all right,
- 24:43they're they're good. They look good when they look
- 24:44good, but at their best, they don't look a cut above any of
- 24:49these other three big time contenders.
- 24:51That's I think at their best, they could be at the level, but
- 24:55kind of felt like wanted to make a statement.
- 24:57And I think they I think they really soaked up that moment of
- 25:01being like, we came to your house and red card aside, we
- 25:05didn't give you anything. You got nothing.
- 25:07I love it. I mean, who doesn't get hype
- 25:09about a saved PK? That's like a piece of
- 25:12information players put in the back of their mind moving
- 25:14forward to where it's just like, OK, we know Aubrey's got us back
- 25:19there when we need it. I think it's just going to be a
- 25:21matter of how often are they going to need it with the
- 25:24offensive firepower and the way they they're able to hold the
- 25:26ball and kind of play that style.
- 25:28So yeah, weird one for Gotham. Short week, you get the red card
- 25:33on just kind of a, a set of bizarre circumstances.
- 25:36I don't think if you're Gotham, I mean, you're you're right now
- 25:38you're 4th in the table. You're 4 points behind, behind
- 25:42the spirit. It's definitely not panic time.
- 25:44There's a long way to go. You're going to get Lynn
- 25:47Williams back. You're going to get a stare
- 25:48back. So you don't love this one
- 25:50because you you know, you're going to need some wins against
- 25:52kind of that top six to really maneuver yourself on the table.
- 25:56But it was the Spirits Day and they celebrated as such.
- 26:00Yeah, I think that's on .1. Last thing on this match, Leon
- 26:03Sanderson. Shout out to Leanne.
- 26:05She was on it as well. Katie Stingle had a chance early
- 26:08that she sort of knocked around a little bit rather than taking
- 26:11first time. And Leanne really got on her.
- 26:14She's like, you know, you got to be ruthless out there.
- 26:16You're just like very odd brand. But it was very prescient, you
- 26:20know, because it was it was a chance.
- 26:22The window closed. Obviously you mentioned no
- 26:24Estera, no Lynn Williams. You got to take those
- 26:26opportunities, especially on short rest.
- 26:28You got to kind of steal a goal here, get a big save on the
- 26:30other end and like, you know, turn it into a little bit of a
- 26:33scrap. That chance for Stingle.
- 26:35And I think it was like maybe 7 or 8 minutes later when Brown
- 26:38gets on the board and you really felt it's kind of like a two
- 26:41goal swing. Not that you know, you know
- 26:43Sting was going to finish it, but she turns 1/2 chance into a
- 26:45a zero of a chance. So I thought Leanne was really
- 26:48on point there. You know, she knows how to be
- 26:50ruthless and take her chances. The legend herself.
- 26:55I mean, you got to take that seriously.
- 26:56Yeah. Rough night for Stengel later
- 26:58gets the PK saved, but you know you're going to have some of
- 27:01those from time to time. It wasn't really much of A
- 27:04Lavelle game, which I think you got to credit the spirit and
- 27:07that too. So they'll keep it moving.
- 27:09They're going to get their players back.
- 27:11I'm really interested to see how they treat the Olympic break.
- 27:15We should credit Sandra Herrera from CBS on this.
- 27:18But what we shall call the Copa de Fuego or would it just maybe
- 27:21be just Copa Fuego? I'm not sure what Copa de Sol, I
- 27:24think was one of the other names that she threw out, but the the
- 27:28NWSL Liga, Emeke's Cup or whatever, like the Super long
- 27:32name they gave it, Fire Cup. I'm very, I'm very interested to
- 27:37see how Gotham FC manages those matches.
- 27:40And with the Olympics and them having so many US women's
- 27:44national team players on there, so long way to go for Gotham.
- 27:47Nothing to be ashamed of yet. But on the flip side, I think if
- 27:50you're Washington, you take a lot from this and say, OK, we
- 27:53can we can go into those buildings and win these matches.
- 27:55Perfect. Yeah, I love that point.
- 27:56Big win for Washington if you're Gotham moving.
- 28:00Exactly. Let's jump ahead to the third
- 28:03team in that top three mix. Maybe maybe the maybe the first
- 28:07team in that top one mix depending on how you look at it.
- 28:10Kansas City current going into the weekend looked like a tough
- 28:13one going to Portland. Sophie Smith was going to be
- 28:16back Rd. match. That KC defense looked a little
- 28:20gettable. I I think I was preparing myself
- 28:22for a real knock down drag out. Not what we saw.
- 28:26It was not now, no Sam Coffey in the starting lineup is a
- 28:30contributor to that. I would also say no Olivia
- 28:34Moultre not helping. But like you said, they had Soph
- 28:38Smith back and they're just a good team.
- 28:41So I expect and they're playing at home.
- 28:43So I expected this one to be a lot closer than it was.
- 28:46But three goals in the course of 10 minutes near the end of the
- 28:50first half pretty much put this one to bed and was just a great
- 28:54indicator that this is another team that they can kind of get
- 28:58their goals from anywhere on the field.
- 29:02But more so than anyone in the league, as we have previously
- 29:05discussed from anyone on the roster.
- 29:09It's borderline comical right now.
- 29:11They got their seventeen different goal scorer with
- 29:14Balasagar scoring in the 38th minute.
- 29:16What I got a kick out of though, 2 minutes, 12 seconds later,
- 29:20Jill Lloyd and is still pretty much describing the Balasagar
- 29:22goal right when this happens, low Labonte runs on to one and
- 29:27just absolutely steals Portland soul.
- 29:30It was a great call from play by play announcer Joe Malfa.
- 29:33But after his announcement of the goal, 12 full seconds of
- 29:37silence from the commentators after the Labonte goal, like
- 29:41Lloyd comes back with a really great are you kidding me, which
- 29:44I loved. But yeah, they just must have
- 29:46been as shocked mouth of gape as pretty much everybody watching
- 29:50in that moment. I believe Low Labonte hit that
- 29:52ball roughly 1,000,000 miles per hour into the back of the she
- 29:59smoked that thing like to the point where I physically did
- 30:05clutch clutch my chest or as if I was wearing pearls and just
- 30:09went huh, she drilled that. I covered my my son, my son's
- 30:15eyes, my two year old son. I'm like, look away.
- 30:18Yeah, it was that was, he's talking about ruthless.
- 30:21That was about as ruthless as he.
- 30:22And she had the she had the run up to charge at it and just all
- 30:26the way blast through the ball. No and and perfect placement,
- 30:30just like just video game stuff. This Casey current side, they're
- 30:35basically the Carolina Graham Hanson of NWSL stats.
- 30:38They're they're first in goals, first in XG goal differential,
- 30:42shots, shots on target shot creating actions, goal creating
- 30:45actions, successful take ONS and blocks.
- 30:48You talked about, uh, Tele chewing the sort of upper crust
- 30:50in that blocks category, but as a team they lead the league in
- 30:53that category as well. So they're just flat out
- 30:56dominating. Even with Orlando's six nil goal
- 31:00spree, they're still one goal short with regard to goal
- 31:03differential. So that kind of tells you all
- 31:04you need to know about the current and then last out there.
- 31:0837 goals for them in the season. Second, place the Spirits at 29.
- 31:12Amazing. Let's talk about we've talked
- 31:14about the three major squads. I apologize while I look at my
- 31:18second screen here. It got me thinking about this
- 31:21title race, Buddy, this is a proper, proper title race.
- 31:25I don't think we should get past these five teams so that the
- 31:29five teams at the top of the table right now, Kansas City
- 31:32Current, Orlando Pride, Washington Spirit, Gotham FC,
- 31:35Portland Thorns, they're separated by 9 points.
- 31:38Kansas City Current sitting on 32, tied with your Orlando
- 31:41Pride, but one better on goal differential.
- 31:42As you mentioned, Portland Thorns are on 23 points, a lot
- 31:46of time left to go, but what I want to bring up here is that I
- 31:50mentioned the NWSL and Liga Emekis tournament that's going
- 31:53to start I think roughly around like July 20th.
- 31:56We have two league matches before we get into that
- 31:59tournament. Friday, June 28th.
- 32:02Kansas City current plays at home versus Houston Dash, your
- 32:06Orlando Pride play in Los Angeles against Angel City FC,
- 32:12Gotham FC plays at home against the Seattle Rain on the 30th,
- 32:16the Thorns play in Utah against the Royals and the Spirits next
- 32:21match is at home against North Carolina Courage.
- 32:25But what's that second match? Why did I wait?
- 32:27And why did I not say what that second match before the break
- 32:30is? Because on Saturday, July 6th in
- 32:34Kansas City, we have the current versus your pride.
- 32:39That my good man. That's a football game.
- 32:43So I thought a lot about this one based on this past weekend,
- 32:46because obviously Friday night I'm flying high.
- 32:48Orlando just looks unstoppable. And then you watch KC, I think
- 32:53too to Portland, you're just like, OK, that's going to be
- 32:55tough to deal with. And I mentioned last week on the
- 32:57pod, I was like, all right, let's see how these defenses
- 32:59hold up. Obviously, Portland's kind of
- 33:02not up to level. KC holds Portland to just the
- 33:05one goal, Sophia Smith from distance.
- 33:07That's going to happen. So it could be that Casey
- 33:10defensively has got some stuff figured out.
- 33:11But I think even still, I really, really trust that
- 33:15Orlando team defensively to be able to kind of at least slow
- 33:20down that Kansas City attack just because when they do pack
- 33:23it in, they're very disciplined defensively.
- 33:26They are very synchronized defensively.
- 33:28They do a great job covering and rotating to make sure that they
- 33:32don't give up anything easy. Again, just just the eleven
- 33:34goals, two straight shutouts for Orlando.
- 33:36And then I think offensively, you know, this looks like a
- 33:39different team. You know, it does look like, you
- 33:42know, Seb Hines just said, hey, you eight players that are not
- 33:46our two center backs, If you get the ball, go because I think
- 33:49Banda is just dangerous enough where it's like it doesn't
- 33:52matter whether it's a bellow on the left or Martinez on the
- 33:55right. One could go, one can stay.
- 33:57And I think when you have whatever Martinez, Sam's and
- 34:00Strom and Morehouse and goal, you kind of roll the dice.
- 34:04Kind of feel good about that if what you're trading it for is a
- 34:07bellow like driving and then basically the entire midfield
- 34:11and those 3 attacking players up front making themselves
- 34:14available, being creative, being unselfish and just kind of
- 34:18manufacturing goals. But you know, with that said,
- 34:21Casey's just fucking terrifying, man.
- 34:23Like the Lola Bonza two goal performance kind of reminded me,
- 34:27I don't think I've ever told you this story, but I played in a
- 34:29very competitive kind of adult basketball league in in in
- 34:32Brooklyn. We had one guy on our team who
- 34:34left our team because he got signed to play for AG League
- 34:38team. So he's like, all right, I got
- 34:40to go, you know, So I was like, OK, he's good.
- 34:42Like like a really, really good. It is prime player and I'm in
- 34:45like in my late 30s at this point, but I'll never forget.
- 34:48This is a very competitive league.
- 34:50I was not a good player. I was probably like a bench
- 34:53player, like a 6th or 7th man on this team.
- 34:55Just kind of like a sort of a spot shooter.
- 34:57And I think I made like, I don't know, like 3 threes in like the
- 35:00first half or something. And he was telling one of our
- 35:03other teammates that I heard him because it was like kind of
- 35:05within the air shell. He's like, right, well, if Dino
- 35:07is hitting today like they're in trouble basically because like
- 35:09our team like these teams are really loaded.
- 35:12And I kind of felt the same about like Labonte.
- 35:14I'm like, all right, if Labonte is going to be doing this, you
- 35:16already have have to contend with Debina and BIA and Chiwinga
- 35:19and Cooper, who also is coming on.
- 35:21Labonte obviously a great player, but how many, how many
- 35:25players can you like, throw extra attention to until just
- 35:30kind of like your, your defense turns into Swiss cheese?
- 35:32So incredibly fired up about that that upcoming matchup.
- 35:35I'm dying to hear what you expect to see when those two
- 35:38teams lock up. I'm really interested to see how
- 35:42cagey they are at the beginning. Exactly what you're talking
- 35:46about of like the pride not being afraid to roll the dice.
- 35:49Like maybe you come out at first and you're like, OK, let's hold
- 35:52off on that and let's see if KC he accidentally runs into one of
- 35:55our traps, like because we have a good enough defenders to kind
- 35:59of stop them and now they're caught off guard and we can
- 36:02catch them on the break. I'd be very interested to see.
- 36:06I mean, obviously I'm excited to watch the entire match, 1st 20
- 36:10minutes. I want to see that and then kind
- 36:12of like isolate it and be like, OK, is this 1st 20 minutes
- 36:16significantly different than the next 70?
- 36:19Or are they? Are you just walking in and
- 36:21saying this is the game plan? Match the gas pedal on this game
- 36:24plan for the entire match. I love thinking about the game
- 36:28in terms of segments. You know, this one I think you
- 36:30introduced to me and I think the 215 minute segments that I've
- 36:34gotten the boast attached to are the 15 before halftime and the
- 36:3815 after halftime. Hell yeah.
- 36:40Well, actually it's the 15 before halftime and then the 10
- 36:43extra minutes that you get. So it ends up being, you know,
- 36:4525 to 28 minutes that we have to get to watch.
- 36:49But that last 15 before halftime is really when it's like, let's
- 36:53see how sharp you really are. Because like in the 1st 10/15/18
- 36:56minutes, like even Utah, Utah looked like they were going to
- 36:59stand up to the pride. And I think that's kind of what
- 37:01Mike Watts was saying is are, oh, but now that they want to
- 37:03play like this, this is going to be interesting.
- 37:05But once you get to the back half of the first half, you
- 37:08really start to see, OK, can you hold your concentration when we
- 37:12get to like 44495254? You know, before you get to
- 37:17halftime, you see Yasmine Ryan get the red card.
- 37:19Well, I mean, that's 54 minutes into the first half, you know,
- 37:22So it's like you really have to lock in for nearly an hour first
- 37:26half, nearly an hour the second-half and then the 1st 15
- 37:29minutes after halftime, you know, do you come out ready or
- 37:32do you come out like, all right, well, let's, let's work up a
- 37:34sweat. And still, still 45 plus, kind
- 37:37of like crawl back into this one.
- 37:38And I think that's when the good teams really just come out and
- 37:41smack you. 100% I mean, you saw what KC did against Seattle a
- 37:45couple weeks ago. They were able to come out and
- 37:47score two goals in 90 seconds. They came out after half time
- 37:50against the Thorns and chewing got one in the 47th minutes.
- 37:53So I think you're 100% right about that, where the best teams
- 37:58come out and they go, OK, that was that was 15 minutes to rest
- 38:02our legs, start your engines. We're we're going to come out,
- 38:05we're going to run right at you again.
- 38:06Totally. So yeah, we're gonna be locked
- 38:08into that one You mentioned. I think you were on this on
- 38:12Twitter over the weekend. I wanted to kind of resurface
- 38:15it, the Chiwinga Minutes discussion.
- 38:17So you had some great stats on our MVP episode talking about
- 38:21how available Chewinga was. And obviously she didn't start
- 38:25the first match. I think she just came out for
- 38:27five or 10 minutes or something, something of the sort.
- 38:29Maybe it was a little bit more, I think maybe it was more like
- 38:312530 and had a goal involvement pretty much a minute.
- 38:35We already do what time it was. She steps up to the field and
- 38:38and already is making stuff happen.
- 38:40But her minutes obviously a four to one victory or a four to one
- 38:44lead on the road. Sophie Smith, you know, to to
- 38:47our earlier 15 minute segment discussion.
- 38:50They're already down four nil. She gets a goal in the 70s, not
- 38:53too much to be afraid of. It's not like you're going to
- 38:56fall behind six to four where you need chewing, go to come
- 39:00back and, you know, grab a couple back the other way.
- 39:03What was your take on on on having her in so deep into the
- 39:06match? Yeah, friend of the show at
- 39:09Morty MO under score on Twitter pointed out.
- 39:12Like how many minutes has Temwa Chewinga played?
- 39:15And I knew I remembered I had had the research like on hand
- 39:18from the MVP episode. So I, I, I chimed into our to
- 39:22our pal Morgan there to say at that point Chiwinga had played
- 39:261083 minutes. Now you add 90 to that, 'cause I
- 39:30think Chiwinga didn't get taken off until the 90th minute of
- 39:33this match. Chiwinga has played 1173 minutes
- 39:36out of 14 matches played. Thirteen of those are starts.
- 39:40I gotta imagine that is good. She was there with 12 full 90s
- 39:45played. I think that's going to bring
- 39:47her to 13 full 90s played throughout the season.
- 39:51I have been accused and I fully raised my hand to this.
- 39:55I think somebody on the YouTube comments once called me a Sissy
- 39:59for being concerned about player injuries.
- 40:01That's fine, I'll wear that I guess.
- 40:04Yeah, I think he should. I think Flacco should rest her a
- 40:06little more. She is a majestic athlete, one
- 40:09of the absolute at worst one of the best 5 athletes in the
- 40:12league. I think we could probably say
- 40:14that. Yep, her ability to score and
- 40:17pass at pace is is unparalleled. Motor never stops.
- 40:21We talked about the blocks. She plays the full field.
- 40:23That's great. And yes, I want that player on
- 40:27the field for as much as possible.
- 40:29I also don't want to be Tom Thibodeau to to throw in a
- 40:33another basketball. So yeah, 1173 minutes played.
- 40:37I think when I mentioned that in the MVP pod when I was doing the
- 40:40research, it was Chiwinga. I think there were a couple
- 40:43other position players in the top ten, but it was like 6
- 40:47goalkeepers who were leading in the minutes.
- 40:50And I was just like, OK, well, you know, maybe this forward who
- 40:54gives you all kinds of sprints up and down the field, maybe a
- 40:58little more rest might be helpful.
- 41:00A little different not playing the same game.
- 41:02Exactly. I thought that was a very fair
- 41:05point. It's interesting because like
- 41:07you got the stretch run for. Well, let me ask you this.
- 41:10Do you think that there is some variance with regards to some
- 41:14teams prioritizing the shield, some teams prioritizing the
- 41:18playoffs in the cup? That is really, really
- 41:21interesting. I don't think I've ever thought
- 41:24about it in those terms. And I don't know, like gut
- 41:27reaction is like, well, what manager would play like that?
- 41:30What what manager has a team who would want to play like that?
- 41:34Like if you have a team full of Americans, do they look at it
- 41:37and say we need to win the NWSL championship?
- 41:40That's more meaningful than the Shield.
- 41:44Or do you have a bunch of Americans who grew up watching
- 41:46European football and say, no, no, the best team is the team
- 41:49that that wins the most matches throughout the regular season.
- 41:52So that's a really good question, man.
- 41:54I got to think there are some, right?
- 41:56Like there are just too many. There's such a diversity of
- 41:58things and experience. Yeah, for sure.
- 42:01And I think you mentioned Portland.
- 42:03Yeah, right. They're nine points back.
- 42:05At some point they're going to say, how about we figure out how
- 42:10to make sure that we're maximizing our talent pool going
- 42:13into the playoffs versus are we going to catch Kansas City?
- 42:17Are we going to catch Orlando? And then at some point and then
- 42:20it and then it just kind of like trickles up the standings and
- 42:22then at some point it's Gotham and then perhaps it's Washington
- 42:25or maybe, you know, we do have a three or four team pile up at
- 42:29the top. But either way, I think there
- 42:31has to be kind of some variance. And then you have your teams
- 42:33like, you know, your Louisville's and your Carolinas
- 42:35or that like they must be firmly thinking playoffs at this point.
- 42:40Anything can happen. We saw what happened last year.
- 42:42So just something to keep keep an eye on.
- 42:44I'm going to be interested to see what a team like Casey or
- 42:47kind of like what those 3456 teams on the standings like kind
- 42:51of how they approach the back half of the season and if we
- 42:54were able to see anything with regard to alright, are they
- 42:57tipping their hand a little bit? So we'll keep an eye on that.
- 43:00One more match to cover. You were in the building.
- 43:03Seattle rain one racing, Louisville one.
- 43:07Seattle rain Sitting right now in the league at two wins, 3
- 43:12draws, 9 losses. Maybe they're saving it for the
- 43:15NWSL Liga Amekis Cup, who knows. Maybe maybe you've alerted me to
- 43:20Laura Harveys strategy this whole time and she's just been
- 43:23waiting to unleash the offense. Laura Harvey knows I'm going to
- 43:27say this. And like she looked me right in
- 43:30the eye when she answered my question to her.
- 43:32I was watching her on the sideline during this match.
- 43:35Laura Harvey knows that they don't have enough talent in the
- 43:38attack. They don't have nearly enough
- 43:40talent in the attack in the early portion of the match.
- 43:44Within the 1st 10 minutes, Phoebe McLaren from the defense
- 43:47plays a great pass over the top middle of the field to Jordan
- 43:50Heightman who gets dragged down by Aaron Wright in the penalty
- 43:53area. It's first ruled a penalty kick
- 43:56and a yellow card. The referee goes and looks at it
- 43:58because of our turns out it's a dog.
- 44:00So denial of a goal scoring opportunity.
- 44:02Red card Sia Aaron Wright. Bethany Ballser makes the the
- 44:06penalty kick makes it look easy, says to keep it the wrong way.
- 44:08Nicely taken by Ballser. That ball rolls over the line
- 44:12and goes into the back of the net at I think 1005 on the
- 44:15clock. You now have 80 minutes of run
- 44:18of play where you are at a player advantage over your
- 44:22opponent and they couldn't do a damn thing.
- 44:26They let me walk that back a little bit.
- 44:29They could get the ball into the attacking third.
- 44:32They could play triangles and rectangles and get up the field.
- 44:36Jess Fishlock is an amazing professional at getting the ball
- 44:39up field from the defensive midfield.
- 44:41She runs up. I thought Ryan Brown, who is
- 44:44listed as a defender. There are parts of the match
- 44:46where Ryan Brown who is playing left back while Claudia Dickey
- 44:50had the ball to play it forward. Ryan Brown is standing at the
- 44:52halfway line where she is playing way, way up the field
- 44:57through spurts. They were able to maneuver the
- 44:59ball up there. But every time, just like Laura
- 45:02Harvey has been telling us for weeks and weeks and weeks, they
- 45:05do not have enough quality in the final third to string those
- 45:09final passes together. They either wait too long for
- 45:13defenders to converge on them and take the ball, or they rush
- 45:16themselves when they could have otherwise had time.
- 45:19And they're playing passes into the middle, right into traffic,
- 45:22not giving hike to my even a chance to finish it.
- 45:25There are other times where Haitama just doesn't appear to
- 45:30have the strength to finish some of these chances and you end up
- 45:33with it with a disappointing draw.
- 45:35Yeah, you'd been on kind of like the Haitama going down a little
- 45:39easy. Yeah, you know, track.
- 45:40And I think you you just kind of see it reminds me a lot of San
- 45:43Diego. Like they're able to kind of
- 45:45work the ball forward and then it just, it's almost like
- 45:48there's nobody up there even though they're players, like
- 45:50either they're marked or their positioning's off or when they
- 45:53get it to your point, that decision making's not really on
- 45:56point. Found some tough, tough stats
- 45:59for for Seattle. So they're shot on target rate
- 46:0228 1/2 percent. It's dead last in the league.
- 46:05That's rough. Only 3.3 shots on target per
- 46:0992nd worst in the league. And it's taken the Reign 12.7
- 46:14shots to get a goal that's also tied for second worst 12.7
- 46:18shots. That's rough when you only
- 46:20average 11.8 per 90. So that's gonna make a tricky
- 46:25little bit of a silver lining here.
- 46:27The rain leading league and aerial duels won.
- 46:30So for anyone who needed firm confirmation that that that's
- 46:34that doesn't matter or doesn't necessarily correlate to
- 46:36winning, here you have it. There you go.
- 46:39In this match, Rain had 60% of the ball.
- 46:42You expect that when you're you're up a player for 80
- 46:44minutes. They had 13 total shots.
- 46:47Three of them were on target. They had four big chances
- 46:50throughout the match according to Foot Mob.
- 46:52Three of those big chances missed, as you might guess.
- 46:55But if you look at the second-half specifically where
- 46:58you should be wearing down your opponent who you have an extra
- 47:01player then on the field, they had 7 total shots and three big
- 47:05chances in that second-half. They did not put a single shot
- 47:08on frame in the second-half. There was a point right around
- 47:12the 80th minute. Let me make sure I because I put
- 47:14this in my notes because it really it jumped out to me after
- 47:17yet another squandered opportunity where Quinn passes
- 47:20the ball to let's go, Let's go kicks it out to Vander Yacht.
- 47:23Vander Yacht over to Huerta on the right wing where to into
- 47:26let's go back in the middle right near the top of the 18,
- 47:29Let's go hits just a loose pass that is too soft before it gets
- 47:33to Quinn. It's easily intercepted.
- 47:35You will know this motion. I know that each of us have
- 47:38likely done this motion in some situation at least a few times
- 47:42in our lives. Laura Harvey, I'm so I'm up in
- 47:44the press box and I'm obviously sitting manager and bench side.
- 47:48I look down at Harvey as that balls getting in.
- 47:51It's very obvious it's going to get intercepted.
- 47:53I look down at Harvey who is standing there and she does that
- 47:57jump where you jump and do a complete 180 because you cannot
- 48:01bear to look at what you're looking at.
- 48:05She jumps and she does the thing where she jumps.
- 48:07She it's just like I slam my fist down on to nothing,
- 48:11exclaiming something. I I could not read her lips and
- 48:13I could not hear from where I was in the press box.
- 48:16But the frustration was so palpable throughout that match
- 48:20as they just this pass is too soft.
- 48:22This pass is is too much. This first touch is too heavy.
- 48:26It's just mischance after mischance after mischance.
- 48:30So, and let me, I guess I shouldn't glide past this set
- 48:34piece end of the match 90 plus whatever the the the rain, give
- 48:41up this give up this free kick. And let me just give credit to
- 48:44Louisville keeper Katie Lund, who I've seen from the the
- 48:48Louisville matches that we have watched, I think is a pretty
- 48:50good keeper out there. The foul is committed just past
- 48:54the halfway line. Katie Lund runs up, spots the
- 48:57ball about 5 yards beyond where where the foul took place.
- 49:01The referee goes no no, waves it off, walks back, draws the
- 49:04little line with the magic with the magic spray and and makes
- 49:08Lund place the ball, turns around and then like an Acme
- 49:12cartoon or like a Looney Tunes. World Wrestling.
- 49:15As yeah, totally WWF style. As soon as the ref turns around,
- 49:19Katie Lund just throws it like 3 extra yards.
- 49:22The crowd boos. The ref is completely unaware of
- 49:26what's happening. I'm not saying those.
- 49:29Yeah, he's just like, all right. He's like, you know, whatever.
- 49:32This keeper's really not popular here.
- 49:34I don't know what he thought the boos were coming from.
- 49:36So he he's none the wiser. I'm not saying the three yards
- 49:40made a difference, but I just a savvy play from Lund.
- 49:42Lund plays it way down the field.
- 49:44Really nicely placed ball right on the head of Jalen Howell, who
- 49:47probably isn't marked nearly well enough and she plays it
- 49:51across the face of the goal and Rylan Turner pokes it.
- 49:54Roof of the net one one. It's destined to end in a draw
- 49:58in that case. In the post game press
- 50:01conference, Jess Fishlock talked about how they didn't mark well
- 50:03enough, they didn't have their concentration, they didn't get
- 50:05set fast enough and now you lose 2 very important points if you
- 50:10are looking at any kind of way to to salvage the season.
- 50:14Yeah. Pretty much a Backbreaker for
- 50:17Seattle. And we talked about this last
- 50:19episode or maybe the one prior, but just basically Seattle's
- 50:23lack of elevating in the highest leverage parts of the game to
- 50:27turn a draw into a win or a loss into a draw or a loss to a win.
- 50:31And in this one, you're sliding the other way.
- 50:34You know, you're turning a win into a draw against the short
- 50:36handed side. The last stat I and I hate to do
- 50:39this to you was you know, it's my my duty as a part time
- 50:44journalist here February and that we saw Louisville the only
- 50:46team that played on Wednesday that didn't lose this weekend.
- 50:50All three others lost Louisville salvages to draw.
- 50:53And it's hard not to think about the parallels between like a
- 50:57Casey Stoney, that situation, Laura Harvey, this situation a
- 51:01little bit different when you look at the personnel and the
- 51:03investments made into players, salaries, your roster, all that
- 51:07kind of stuff. Maybe Harvey gets the benefit of
- 51:09the doubt. Obviously, you know, big, big
- 51:11addition this week that that was announced.
- 51:14It's got to get some some rain fans excited.
- 51:16But yeah, ultimately, it's got to happen one way or the other.
- 51:19You know, if Seattle's going to kind of stay even tangentially
- 51:23in this in this playoff conversation, they're going to
- 51:25have to make some big plays down the stretch of these matches.
- 51:29And they just seem, like you said, they just seem to be
- 51:31trending in the opposite direction pretty.
- 51:33Troubling. It definitely is troubling for
- 51:36the near term. I think you hit the nail right
- 51:39on the head. You You alluded to the report
- 51:41from Sandy Herrera, previously mentioned of CBS Sports, and the
- 51:46report was later confirmed by Jacob Cristobal, who writes for
- 51:49a great Seattle rain blog called Ride of the Valkyries.
- 51:52Go read that blog if you are already not and you're a Seattle
- 51:55Rain fan. Jacob confirmed Sandia Herrera's
- 51:58report with the club that Nerlia Mondesir, 25 year old Haitian
- 52:03striker, left winger who's been playing with Montpellier in
- 52:08Division One Arkema is likely headed to Seattle on a
- 52:12three-year deal with a one year option.
- 52:14Obviously the the transfer window starts August 1st.
- 52:17Montesir had five goals, 4 assists in her nineteen starts,
- 52:2122 matches played for Montpellier last season.
- 52:23She's the captain of the Haitian national team.
- 52:25Played super tough in the World Cup, scared England a little bit
- 52:30and typically played left wing with Dumornet in the middle.
- 52:33And this kind of leads me back. I mentioned the press
- 52:36conference. I mentioned Laura Harvey looking
- 52:38me directly in the eye when she answered my question.
- 52:40And what that question was, was I wanted to approach it with
- 52:44caution. So I kind of couched it and I
- 52:46said, coach, I understand this is a tricky subject, but you
- 52:50have mentioned for weeks the lack of quality on the field,
- 52:54especially in the in the attacking third in certain
- 52:57spots. Is that something you're going
- 53:00to have to address in the August transfer window?
- 53:03And she looked me right in the face and let me make sure I
- 53:05transcribed the quote correctly. She said yes.
- 53:12End Quote. End Quote.
- 53:14And the thing about that is in the NWSL, you are allowed a
- 53:20maximum of 26 players on your roster.
- 53:23On the roster sheet for the Seattle Rain Football Club,
- 53:26there are 27 players on there. Now Bluani is on loan to Madrid
- 53:31over in Liga F, so they are at the full complement of 26
- 53:35players on the roster. So when the manager looks me in
- 53:38the face and plainly says yes, we need to address this in the
- 53:42transfer window, that would lead me to believe that some players
- 53:47contracts may be up for sale. I think is very, very safe to
- 53:52say and I just want to throw and now this part I do not have
- 53:56direct reporting on. I will say one of the other
- 53:58journalists in the post camp press conference asked Laura
- 54:01Harvey, what specific positions would you target?
- 54:04I think it was a worthy follow up, but there's no chance
- 54:07Harvey's ever going to answer that.
- 54:08She basically, she basically just said, you know, we're
- 54:11looking at adding quality to the side and we we have to explore
- 54:15those avenues. And you touched on it also, she
- 54:18mentioned the close of the sale being a factor.
- 54:22So let me just say one of my pet peeves is in any kind of sports
- 54:27media or sports fandom where you basically have, I'm going to,
- 54:31I'm going to throw the Lakers under the bus here.
- 54:33And not because this one hits, hits home in any kind of way,
- 54:36but I love hearing, I love hearing these things of well,
- 54:40yeah, the Lakers, they could get Darius Garland from the
- 54:42Cavaliers. They could give them D'Angelo
- 54:46Russell and a draft pick and whatever other fucking bum they
- 54:51have on their roster. And there you go Darius Garland
- 54:54and I'm like, OK, so if I'm the Cavaliers, I'm going to give you
- 54:58a known good player for your trash.
- 55:01So the what I'm saying, sorry for that mini side quest there,
- 55:06But what I don't want to do is then say, OK, well, the rain,
- 55:10they're going to sell some players who don't play.
- 55:13What I think is going to have to happen if you want to add real
- 55:16quality to this roster, I think you're going to have to look at
- 55:19players like Phoebe McLaren, who's played well.
- 55:22I don't think it's off the board.
- 55:23Alana Cook, who's been a good defender in the league for a
- 55:26while and who has national team experience.
- 55:28I don't think you're shy about looking at her, especially with
- 55:32the emergence of Ryan Brown. I will say I've talked about
- 55:35Haitama in the past, but she is young and she has good size and
- 55:40she's played well for Canada. There might be an opportunity
- 55:42where other teams might say, OK, they're not getting it right in
- 55:46Seattle. But I think for Seattle fans, I
- 55:48think you should brace yourself because Harvey is visibly
- 55:52frustrated. And if you're going to try to
- 55:54sign some good players and I don't know their salary cap
- 55:57situation, because I don't think anybody knows anybody's salary
- 56:00cap situation where media is kind of in the dark in the NWSL
- 56:03about that. I think you might have to
- 56:04prepare yourself for the club to sell some good contracts in
- 56:09order to try to bring some some more attacking quality into the
- 56:12side. I could definitely see that and
- 56:14obviously we're we're playing a little part time GM here, but a
- 56:18player like Haitama obviously shows flashes.
- 56:21You know, she's she's looked really good for for Canada 23
- 56:25yeah, young, but not quite the player to put the entire attack
- 56:31on her shoulders exactly. Like I think if you see a player
- 56:33like Haitama on a different team or she's one of two or three
- 56:37options and she's kind of flashing in and flashing across.
- 56:39And but I mean with the Seattle side, it's kind of like, all
- 56:43right, if you, if you got her as sort of like that, that tip of
- 56:46the spear focal point, she's a little bit easy to take out of
- 56:49the game. You know, you mentioned she is
- 56:51tall, but physically she's a little bit slight.
- 56:54And you don't want to mention about hitting the weight room or
- 56:55anything, but like that's maybe not the worst idea, but I think
- 56:59it maybe it's just a bad fit. And I think ultimately,
- 57:02hopefully the ownership situation, Monsieur coming in,
- 57:05these are things that I think could be pointing some things in
- 57:08the right direction. So definitely something we'll
- 57:10keep an eye on. Yeah, I just think when you get
- 57:12the new round of investment, you have a set ownership group, the
- 57:17best way for that ownership group.
- 57:19And you know, they that group runs the Sounders, They're
- 57:22committed to the area. I think one of the first
- 57:24announcements they made was like, yeah, we're not moving the
- 57:27club out of out of Lumen Field. We're not moving them out of the
- 57:29city of Seattle. That buys a lot of good faith.
- 57:32This match against Louisville was the third highest attendance
- 57:38of a standalone regular season game in club history.
- 57:41I think the standalone part, I did not ask for clarification on
- 57:44that. I think sometimes they do these
- 57:45like double headers with the Sounders.
- 57:47So I think a standalone match is like a non double header with
- 57:50the Sounders. We don't disrespect the men's
- 57:53game on this on this show, but I will tell you Jennifer and I
- 57:56have gone to one of those double headers and did not stay for the
- 57:59Sounders match. But shout to them.
- 58:02You know what the MLSI understand a lot of NWSL fans
- 58:05are are fans of the MLS, not your boys, but.
- 58:09Primarily that one's football. Exactly.
- 58:11Primarily about women's football, so, and sometimes the
- 58:14NBA. Or my men's adult league.
- 58:16Experience. Hell yeah let me wait.
- 58:19Let me rewind to that real quick, just so the viewers of
- 58:23the program know Dino took the piss out of himself a little
- 58:26bit. My man is all of a stout 63, is
- 58:29an absolute Hooper. You were a little older playing
- 58:32in that league. I stand by your hooping skills,
- 58:35my good man. I appreciate that, man.
- 58:37Yep. Lifelong Hooper through and
- 58:38through. You already know what time it
- 58:39is. I've got my camera a little bit
- 58:41elevated, so not the not the most flattering angle.
- 58:44But yeah, Grant is correct. You're also a tall guy as well.
- 58:47A couple. Yeah, we've got some tall guy
- 58:49bias here at the ITC. You know, I 6/1 and 1/2 I, I,
- 58:52you know, I, I gotta, I gotta make sure that, that I'm
- 58:55representing. But yeah, I mean, real hoopers
- 58:57know, I I recognize your game. It's pretty awesome.
- 59:01You played, you played with a guy who made it to the G League.
- 59:04That's pretty rad. Was he was a lot better than me,
- 59:07a lot better than I ever was, for sure.
- 59:08It's a very good player. But you know, we shared the
- 59:11court and I shared some laughs and on my best day I was a low
- 59:15La Bonza of our adult league. Team we do a lot worse.
- 59:21Absolutely. All right, man.
- 59:22Anything else you want to hit before we get out of here?
- 59:23I think we covered it, man. Two matches until we get to the
- 59:26NWSL league, Ameki's tournament. We got some bangers on the way,
- 59:30like I said. I mean, it feels, you mentioned
- 59:33we have three primary contenders in a proper title race, but we
- 59:36got these two on the periphery in Portland and Gotham, two
- 59:39teams that have championship DNA.
- 59:41What a league. What?
- 59:43Just what a phenomenal league this is.
- 59:45Absolutely, the playoff race is going to be very exciting.
- 59:49Hell yeah. The chase for the Shield's going
- 59:51to be exciting. Transfer window.
- 59:53I mean, there's just going to be a lot happening the the Fire Cup
- 59:56go by the Fuego. However, we'll work on the
- 59:58branding. Sandra, let us know if you if
- 1:00:00you updated, if you updated anything there and we'll give
- 1:00:03you the proper credit and, and ride along with you with
- 1:00:06whatever direction you want to take it.
- 1:00:07With that said, I think we did it, man.
- 1:00:09There's been another episode of Into the Channel.
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- 1:00:29Mr. Grant Engel for never making me do that 180° jump, spin and
- 1:00:35disgust. It's all smooth sailing here at
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- 1:00:40You know, we we got an offense hum in here, buddy.
- 1:00:43The the chemistry. Maybe we're a Chiwinga
- 1:00:46Biazanarato. Maybe it's a Julie Doyle.
- 1:00:49Maybe it's a maybe it's a Marta Barbara Banda situation.
- 1:00:52Hard to hard to throw out Marta. She's like the greatest of all
- 1:00:55time. But you know, we're we're
- 1:00:57trending that way. The Young Marta Could be could
- 1:01:00be the title of the podcast. Well, I'm, I'm in the same Marta
- 1:01:04age, age stratosphere. So I'll take, you know, 2024
- 1:01:09Marta for sure. I'll absolutely take that.
- 1:01:11Yeah, that's a good point. Just like Marta, we are in our
- 1:01:14extended prime and we were looking forward to extending
- 1:01:17that prime when we see you guys next time.