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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-5 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you. Welcome into the radio show.
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  Speaker 1: It is Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan with you as well as we get things
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  Speaker 1: started here on a Wednesday. Coming up a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later on in the program, Greg Bell is going to
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  Speaker 1: be joining us at a special time and for a
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  Speaker 1: special length of time. We'll tell you more about that
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  Speaker 1: in a moment. We also have all sorts of things
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  Speaker 1: coming your way today that you tend to expect here
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  Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. So we welcome you into the show,
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  Speaker 1: ball with him. What whatever. No one will ever know
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  Speaker 2: Well done, sir.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some football. Hard Knocks started last night,
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  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks on HBO. First time ever the Seahawks have
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  Speaker 1: been featured on Hard Knocks and and so we got
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  Speaker 1: the full episode last night. Hopefully you watched it. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: you're right there with us as we get set to
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  Speaker 1: talk about it here this morning. Not to lead you anywhere, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: because I do want to just get your first gut
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  Speaker 1: reaction to it, but I'll just get the conversation started
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  Speaker 1: by saying, I don't think it's as gritty as it
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  Speaker 1: used to be. I don't. I think it is really
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  Speaker 1: like tightly managed by both organization and league to make
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  Speaker 1: sure you're not revealing too much. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: quite the show that it used to be, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I stopped watching it in the first place, because
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  Speaker 1: it just kept drifting further and further away from the
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  Speaker 1: strike zone in my opinion, and I think that applied
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  Speaker 1: to last night. But when it's your team that you
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  Speaker 1: follow from your town and they're the Super Bowl champions, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you soaked up every bit of the sauce with a
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  Speaker 1: biscuit last night. And it was great to see some
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  Speaker 1: behind the scene things that even beat writers have not
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  Speaker 1: had access to at this camp, and then to also
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  Speaker 1: get to know some of the personalities and yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: knew some of the reputations of these players, but to
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  Speaker 1: see it on display was very fascinating. To get examples
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  Speaker 1: of why Mike McDonald is such an effective leader and
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  Speaker 1: why Cooper Cup is such a coach. On the field
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  Speaker 1: and why Devin Witherspoon is easy to gravitate toward as
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  Speaker 1: a teammate. To see living examples of that captured by
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  Speaker 1: the HBO crew, it was very entertaining. Maybe not for
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  Speaker 1: the nation. I don't know how the nation's responding, but
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  Speaker 1: I think all locals, all Seahawk fans, loved it. I
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  Speaker 1: certainly did as well. I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: And even from the beginning with the ring ceremony and
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  Speaker 4: getting to see the reaction from the players to the rings,
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  Speaker 4: but still the calmness of Mike McDonald in the moment
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  Speaker 4: I thought was very well, I guess what you would
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  Speaker 4: expect from Mike McDonald, but just to kind of see
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  Speaker 4: like he was letting them have their excitement in their moment,
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  Speaker 4: but then it was still kind of business. It was like, Yep,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to celebrate right here and then we're moving on.
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  Speaker 4: Just to start with that, I thought was great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he himself just came across as like it's
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  Speaker 1: very interesting. It's like he's well beyond his years in
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  Speaker 1: terms of his wisdom and his communication. It's like he's
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  Speaker 1: created his own form of communication and and you almost
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  Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, he learned from a few people along
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  Speaker 1: the way, but there's just something inherent to him. And
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't like strike you like General Patton. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like that type of presence, but it is
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  Speaker 1: somebody that sort of mastered his craft, works harder than
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  Speaker 1: everyone el and yet has everybody else's back and expects
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  Speaker 1: them to rise to his level of work. And it's
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  Speaker 1: just an expectation. It's a unique brand of leadership that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've come I've ever really come across.
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  Speaker 1: And I can see how tremendously effective that it is.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean even you saw his leadership and
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  Speaker 4: an example of it with the fight between Brady Russell
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  Speaker 4: and Devin Witherstoon and then when he goes up to
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  Speaker 4: Brady Russell and he's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, hey man, you can't say that, like come on now,
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  Speaker 2: And just the way.
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  Speaker 4: That conversation went down, I was like, I like that,
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  Speaker 4: Like he just approached him like a real person, not
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  Speaker 4: you know, not trying to do too much. He was
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  Speaker 4: just and Brady Russell knew he was wrong instantly, and
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  Speaker 4: and and McDonald didn't have to take some nasty approach
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  Speaker 4: about the whole thing. All he had to do was,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of call him out quietly and say like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, you know better than that, and and Brady
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  Speaker 4: Russell saime, yeah, and he said go give him a hug.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a perfect example of it. And oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Brady Russell, who was our guest on
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  Speaker 1: the show, Yesterdy Yeah. And I asked him, so, how
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  Speaker 1: much are you going to be a part of the
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  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks show. Do you get the feeling that they
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  Speaker 1: were around you a lot, because with your personality, I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine you're going to be featured a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like, no, I can't even imagine anything
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be featured about me. And of course he
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  Speaker 1: got peed on by a goat, so there's that. And
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  Speaker 1: then they caught him dancing. That was like forty five
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  Speaker 1: seconds worth of the show him dancing. And then he
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  Speaker 1: did the cheap shot with Hall and then he did
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  Speaker 1: the apology with with Mike and so Brady Russell, as
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  Speaker 1: I forecasted, the cameras were drawn to him and his personality.
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  Speaker 1: He came through and then sat here on our set
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  Speaker 1: like I can't even imagine why a anyone would think
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  Speaker 1: I'm interesting or entertaining, but I think there's some truth
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  Speaker 1: to it. I don't think. I think he's just being
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  Speaker 1: Brady Russell, which is a unique personality. It's different, and
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  Speaker 1: part of that personality is why would anybody be interested
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  Speaker 1: in what I have to say? And yet the cameras
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  Speaker 1: clearly loved him. I mean we're talking about a backup,
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  Speaker 1: full back, yeah, and yet he had three different scenes
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  Speaker 1: in which they featured him, So obviously the HBO crew
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  Speaker 1: has the same view on Brady Russell that I do.
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  Speaker 1: I had a feeling that they were going to be
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  Speaker 1: drawn to him throughout this training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can I could see why for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I just it was it was interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Derek Hall was a big part of it
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  Speaker 4: from the truck right at the beginning too.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't know it was a huge part
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize Derek Hall talks so much trash,
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  Speaker 4: but he got his trash talking in there and that truck.
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  Speaker 1: Though.
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  Speaker 4: When when that truck pulled up, I was like, who
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  Speaker 4: in the heck drives that?
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  Speaker 2: And we were trying to figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: And then when he got out, I was like, I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have put Derek Hall on my top ten list
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  Speaker 4: of people I thought drove that truck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, big trucks and tiny shorts, that's right there. That
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  Speaker 1: sums up Derek Hall in a nutshell, big truck, tiny shorts,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Well, yeah, I don't know why people drive
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  Speaker 1: trucks like that. I really don't. So I didn't come
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  Speaker 1: away impressed by his wheel. Well.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't like, oh my gosh, I wish I had
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  Speaker 4: that truck. I was just more like, wow, that is
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit tuck.
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  Speaker 1: That is exclusively for people that make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there if anybody's practically driving that thing around
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  Speaker 1: and keeping it shiny and new, and I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: he only brings it out on special occasions, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like when training camp starts and you just got a
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  Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars per year contract and you know that
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  Speaker 1: a prominent television network is waiting for you. Yeah, at
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  Speaker 1: your practice facility, that's probably one of those occasions that
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  Speaker 1: you drive your big giant truck and wear your big
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  Speaker 1: giant Super Bowl ring and your tiny little man shorts
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  Speaker 1: to practice to work that day. And so Derek Hall
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  Speaker 1: checked all of those boxes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he definitely did. And I loved it too.
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  Speaker 4: The wrestling match with the Big Cat. That was one
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  Speaker 4: of my favorite things. And when and especially because when
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  Speaker 4: Palmer saw Leonard Williams, she goes, oh, big cat, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, I've never been more proud.
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  Speaker 2: That she knew Leonard Williams was big cat.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big boy. Big boy, I mean, Derek Hall's
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  Speaker 1: big boy. And you could tell, like I do. I
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  Speaker 1: have to do this to you every day, Derek too,
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  Speaker 1: to remind you, and I appreciate it. And I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tussle your hair right now and tell you you're a
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  Speaker 1: You're a good kid, but yeah, I'm bigger than you
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to take you down every single time.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it kind of came off as other things
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  Speaker 1: that certainly the Cooper Cup. I mean, we've heard what
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  Speaker 1: a coach he is on the field. Boy, did you
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: get a dose of that in that episode from JSN.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much just telling the HBO crew like right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat about it. And by the way, I should
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  Speaker 1: say this, if people were saving it for today, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: This is not one of those This is not one
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  Speaker 1: of those situations where you know a movie comes out,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got to give you a grace period to
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  Speaker 1: watch it so that we don't ruin it for you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We do sports talk radio for a living.
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  Speaker 1: This is gonna be the talk of the entire station
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  Speaker 1: today and if you didn't have time to watch it,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to listen to us talk about
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: it and then go back later and see how it
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: actually unfolded. So I'm not gonna hold back anything. I'm
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: not gonna worry about ruining the ending. This is a
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  Speaker 1: big topic here today on our radio show at the
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  Speaker 1: radio station, and so I'm sorry if you were planning
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  Speaker 1: to watch it at nine am this morning and I'm
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  Speaker 1: ruining it for you, But we have to talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way we can't talk about what we saw
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  Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks. And you should have known that going
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  Speaker 1: into training camp this year.
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  Speaker 4: Well I warned people yesterday too. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 4: about it today.
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  Speaker 1: We can't not. I mean there's even some newsworthy things
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  Speaker 1: that we'll get to in a moment as well, but
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  Speaker 1: we can't not talk about it. And so if I'm
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  Speaker 1: ruining it for you, I do apologize, But then again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to continue ruining it for you because it
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  Speaker 1: just makes sense on my end. So Cooper Cup, we've
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  Speaker 1: heard about this leadership. JSN does the interview pretty much
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  Speaker 1: just spells it out for the crew, and then they
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  Speaker 1: just start showing you shining example after shining example, and
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: the one that really took the cake was and I
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  Speaker 1: wish we could have seen the entire scene. They obviously
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  Speaker 1: had to edit it to a point that was acceptable
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  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks because apparently Cooper Cup had pointed out
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  Speaker 1: something that Mike McDonald didn't see in film study, and
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden it starts. The scene starts with
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's saying, Oh, I see what it's through the center,
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  Speaker 1: That's what he says, and then he just like leans
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  Speaker 1: back in his chair and puts his hands on top
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  Speaker 1: of his head. His eyes are wide, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: why did I not see that? And he just gives
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  Speaker 1: him this quiet, slow fist bump and then leans back
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  Speaker 1: in his chair and kup go's, well, you're welcome, I
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  Speaker 1: guess yeah, And Mike's just blown away that that he
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  Speaker 1: didn't see it himself, because I know he fancies himself
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  Speaker 1: as a master of film study. Uh, and for Cooper
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  Speaker 1: to point out something so clever and yet now so
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  Speaker 1: obvious that no one on the coaching staff had seen.
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  Speaker 1: That was a phenomenal moment. I thought it was my
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  Speaker 1: favorite moment in the entire episode.
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  Speaker 4: Ashley and I could see why it was just especially
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  Speaker 4: because we hear so much about me. Cooper Cup talks about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just football, football, football. He's so smart. He's
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  Speaker 4: so smart, and he he kind of is like Hugh
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  Speaker 4: Millen's mindset, but in an currently active football player.
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  Speaker 1: And so but as a normal human being, right, and then.
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  Speaker 4: There's that and so but so to see like this
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  Speaker 4: great offense, I mean, I don't even think Cooper Cup
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  Speaker 4: is just a great offensive.
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  Speaker 2: I think he just is aware of everything that's going
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  Speaker 2: on on the field.
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  Speaker 4: And so to see him, yeah, combined with Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 4: and having that moment where it's like the student becomes
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  Speaker 4: the teacher all of a sudden, for a second, I
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  Speaker 4: thought it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he even had the moment where he
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  Speaker 1: sort of took a shot at Travis Kelcey as well,
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  Speaker 1: because apparently he got invited to the wedding and he
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  Speaker 1: went to the wedding and that was news to Sam,
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  Speaker 1: and Sam's like, why did you get invited? And comes like,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I thought it was a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the invitation.
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  Speaker 1: It was a joke, and and I And then then
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  Speaker 1: there was like the line of I would have thought
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  Speaker 1: that he knew a lot more people better than me,
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  Speaker 1: which is the criticism of the event. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: were inviting people they didn't even know personally. She gave him,
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  Speaker 1: she told him, invite a lot of people that you
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  Speaker 1: think are cool, regardless of whether or not you know them.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do the same thing on the entertainment end,
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  Speaker 1: and we're probably not gonna see them talk to them
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  Speaker 1: at any point during the course of our wedding ceremony.
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  Speaker 1: But let's make sure that this is a football meets
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  Speaker 1: entertainment spectacle like never before. So give me a really
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  Speaker 1: good list, honey, And so give me your favorite football
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  Speaker 1: players in the league, regardless if you've ever spent any
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  Speaker 1: time with them. And that's that's how the wedding invitations
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  Speaker 1: went out. Yeah, and then doesn't sound very personal, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: sound very romantic and lovey, I'll tell.
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  Speaker 2: You definitely does not.
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  Speaker 4: And when Sam was like, well, didn't they invite like
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  Speaker 4: a thousand people, and he's like yeah, like it was yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And you knew that. Sam was thinking, well, why didn't
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  Speaker 1: I get an invite? My wife would have like to
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  Speaker 1: have gone to that. That would have been fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been all about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you didn't even need to know the guy
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  Speaker 1: very well, I should have gotten one. I'm a super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl winning quarterback. No that's not what he was Sayking,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe not the super Bowl quarterback part, but I
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  Speaker 1: do think he was thinking the other part, and then
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  Speaker 1: one other thing, and then we'll get to some of
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  Speaker 1: the news that emerged from it. Was. I mean, we've
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: heard from Greg Bell, our insider, and you know we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have Greg on at a special time for a
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  Speaker 1: special length of time today a little later on in
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  Speaker 1: the show, and not just talk about hard knocks. But
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: obviously they don't have access to the same things HBO
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  Speaker 1: is getting access to during training camp. But there is
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  Speaker 1: an advantage to being a guy that's covered this team
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  Speaker 1: for over twenty years in your here every single day.
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  Speaker 1: And Greg Bell's made it clear over the last year
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  Speaker 1: and a half two years that Devin Witherspoon has stepped
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  Speaker 1: up to be Mike McDonald's favorite player, And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: a coach would never admit that. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like it's probably be having to pick your favorite child.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The only person that would do that is Dion Sanders,
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  Speaker 1: and he does it regularly. Yes, But but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if a coach would ever go even if the
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  Speaker 1: people in the room, no, you gravitate toward a certain player.
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  Speaker 1: But Greg has told us that Devin Witherspoon is Mike
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  Speaker 1: McDonald's favorite player on the team just the way that
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he's teacher's pet out here. And
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  Speaker 1: sure enough, they show the photo of wife pregnant wife
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and Toddler's son and they're up in
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's offense while practice is going on. And what
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  Speaker 1: is little McDonald wearing a Devn Witherspoon jersey? Yep, he was.
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  Speaker 2: Jack was instantly my favorite.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he was just the cutest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he already knows the word football like over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over, so uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think dad's done a little brainwashing with young McDonald. Old
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  Speaker 1: McDonald has done some brainwashing with young McDonald. That was
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of the entire episodes, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're not even hiding it the first
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  Speaker 1: jersey you bought for the first episode of Hard Knocks
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: as of Devin Witherspoon, Yeah, you do have a teacher's
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: pat Craig's been right all along. So anyway, great, great start,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: few more episodes coming. Of course, read a lot last
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: night on Twitter where people couldn't wait for the next episode.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But I don't know how the nation is reacting, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I do get the gravitational pull that creates for the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: local fan interest, and I think I think most people
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: listening probably enjoyed it as much as what Ashley and
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I did. Let's find out what's on tap for the
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  Speaker 1: I've already mentioned it a couple of times, so I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: might as well finally tell you. Greg Bell is gonna
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: be joining us. Not at seven o five today, He'll
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: be joining us at nine o'clock today, and not because
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Greg didn't want to get up, but because I asked him, Hey,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you mind coming on for an hour if we put
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: it right before your show gets underway. So yes, I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: assigned him a three hour show basically today where he
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: normally just works the two, and I think he wants
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to do it. I wasn't a thousand percent convinced that
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: he wasn't just doing it to be a good teammate.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, he'll join us today at nine o'clock, so
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: we'll be able to talk about what he found out
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: about Hard Knocks and then measure that against what he's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: learned on the beat as well. But we'll just have
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a good stretcher legs hour long conversation today with our
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Seahawks insider right here from Seahawks training camp. The two
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: news items. Another thing that I mentioned a couple of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: times and you'd probably like to know them in case
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you didn't watch Hard Knocks last night, The Witherspoon contract.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: There was a moment in the episode where John Schneider
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: was seen talking to Mike McDonald and others about, well,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: a story leaked out that's not entirely accurate, and so
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: he had to call Ian Rapaport of now ESPN to say, hey,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: make sure you tell Spoon's agent that that leak did
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not come from us. And so I don't know what
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: kind of riff that that caused in the negotiation, but
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: obviously we don't have a deal done at this point.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe HBO likes it that way stretched this thing out
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: for a few weeks. But Spoon also was interviewed about it,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and he made it pretty clear that he's expecting to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: be paid big money and maybe top cornerback money is
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: not enough. Maybe he is trying to pushed the bar
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit higher, but he made it very clear
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of his own recognition of his value to this football team.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I would have thought this
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: thing would have gone smoothly. Doesn't look like it's gonna
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: go smoothly. Also, Nick emn Worri Man, anybody that watched
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that episode last night, if you had a great feeling
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: about Emon Warri being ready for the start of the season,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: that probably does not exist anymore. When Mike McDonald's using
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: phrases like we got to minimize the amount of games
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: this guy misses, it probably means he's gonna miss a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: game or two. So I'm sure a freakish athlete recovers
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: freakishly from injuries like this, but I did not get
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the sense. I was not encouraged about Emon Warri's availability
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: for week number one based off of the show last night,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that later on in the program
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: as well. Hall of Fame game is tomorrow, so the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: preseason gets underway with the Panthers and the Cardinals. Hall
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of Fame Week is coming up this weekend. Luke, Keikley,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, prominent Panthers and Cardinals are going to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame along with others. Husky's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: camp starts tomorrow, by the way, and the coaches poll
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in college football came out yesterday with Ohio State being
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: ranked number one, Oregon number two, and UDUB sitting there
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: at number nineteen. Storm will play at New York against
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the Liberty tonight at four o'clock. Just lost to them
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: earlier in the week. The Sounders are now in League's Cup.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So I don't understand the MLS about a month off
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: and then a week off for the All Star break
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and now two weeks off to play in a tournament.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So I don't think the MLS is gonna finish at
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: season this year. That's my conclusion. A Little League World Series.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Snohomish back at it today against Canada. That is basically
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the Daniel Lourie Bowl right there. Yeah, So Snowholmish versus
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Canada today at ten am. And of course Snohomish cannot
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: afford another loss. They lost in round one to Florida,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: but beat Texas yesterday. And finally, the Mariners made news
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: yesterday with a lot of roster moves. Taylor Ward obviously
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: put on the roster, Sir Anthony Dominguez put on the roster,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan activated from the I L and in doing so,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: they waved goodbye to Mitch Garver and Rob Rethsnyder. Things
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about later on in the show. But coming
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: up next, Mariners Morning After comes your way, a recap
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of last night's dismal affair against the Detroit Tigers right
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• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, great morning to you. Chuck Powell reporting live from
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center for another day of Seahawks
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: training camp. It's going to have you with us hour
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: number two of this Wednesday edition of the radio show.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: We have changed things around a little bit here today.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: No reckless at breakfast at seven forty five. That'll come
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  Speaker 1: your way a little later on in the show eight
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: forty five. As a matter of fact, Also, Greg Bell,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: not at seven oh five today. If you were anticipating
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: your Greg Bell conversation, it's because we're gonna double up
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on it at nine o'clock right down here at our
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: set later on this morning. So Greg will be with
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: us for an entire hour from nine to ten, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: as a preview to his own show, if you will,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it'll just roll right over, so you get three hours
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of Greg Bell today. So we'll do that at nine
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: o'clock at his reaction to the Hard Knocks Show. Some
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of the news items that were delivered during the Hired Knocks,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: stuff that he didn't have access to previously that he's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: written about since. And then of course his own reporting
• 24:07
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• 24:09
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• 24:31
  Speaker 1: there Aaron on the call the last play of the game,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: which I did not stick around for.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Round and I did, and I wish I didn't.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It was shower time. It was shower time once great
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: labor Torres at a home run. So the Tigers just
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: waxed the Mariners last night by a final score of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: eight to nothing. So certainly not the response you were
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: wonning offensively for a team that added at the deadline.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: A Taylor Ward got friendon Donovan Back. We spent to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a large part of our show yesterday being excited about
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the new lineup, how much deeper it looks, how much
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: stronger it looks, and what happens you have to go
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: out and face maybe the hottest pitcher in all of
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the sport, Troy Melton. You thought, maybe you're dodging a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Trek Scouoble bullet, and instead they hit you with a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Troy Milton axe right between the eyes and you die
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: either way. But Troy Melton dominated the Mariners last night.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock didn't get a lot of defensive support, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: then again, he didn't pitch that great last night either,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and the Tigers run away with a victory by a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: final score of eight to nothing. Puts the Mariners three
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and a half games back in the division because both
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Texas and the Astros won last night, and so same
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: two teams at it tonight six to forty. First pitch
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: should have a much easier go at it. Brian Wooz
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: starts for the Mariners. Drew Anderson, right hander, gets the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: call for the Tigers. This is where they do miss
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Trek Scooble in this series. They're going to have to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: start tonight a guy that's been a relief pitcher all
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: season long, and he's got some talent, but certainly an
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: easier matchup tonight for the offense. So I think I'm
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: gonna wait to judge the new look offense for a
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: couple of games. But if Drew Anderson does the same
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: thing to them that Troy Melton did last night, then yes,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: we will all panic and sell our homes perfose. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that's the way that'll be.
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Some other news just quickly that I will get through
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game tomorrow in the National Football League
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: so football this year preseason game tomorrow between the Cardinals
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and the Panthers Hall of Fame weekend, of course, will
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: feature Panther Luke Keighley, Cardinal Larry Fitzgerald, and many others.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees this weekend in Campton, Ohio Husky start there
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: camp tomorrow. Coaches Pole came out ranked Ohio state number one.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: You dub his rate number nineteen in the first coaches poll.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Storm Liberty tonight at four o'clock. Sounders playing in the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: League's Cup today Little League World Series ten o'clock's the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Homers for Canada as Snowhomish softball team trying to stay alive.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They do have one loss, they can't afford another one,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: so they defeated Texas yesterday and they do remain alive.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And of course the Mariners did waive Mitch Garver and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Rob Refsneider enormous sources of frustration here over the last
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: three and a half years, two and a half years
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with Mariner fans Garver and then refs Snider. This season
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: they are no longer here to kick around. Johnny Pereda
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: added to the roster yesterday, and of course they made
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: room for Donovan back from the IL and for Ward
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: traded for at the deadline. We'll talk more about those
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: things specifically a little bit later on in the show,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: but I did want to spend some time today. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: did this earlier in the week nine o'clock Monday, really
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: got into the whole Major League Baseball structure of whether
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: it's fair or unfair, whether we're going to have a
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: lockout because Major League Baseball is trying to prove to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the world that they need a salary cap and the
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Players Association shit has bunch. Nick Street might be and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to lead to some ugliness. We're actually gonna discuss this
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: at some pretty great length with a pretty knowledgeable person
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: in this area, you know him, Hugh Millen. We're gonna
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: talk about this tomorrow. We're gonna have Hugh on the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: show because Hugh was there as a players rep in
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the National Football League when they agreed to a salary cap.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Think about that. Think about this source that we have
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: at our fingertips that we can use here at the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: radio station that can give us insight like that. So
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I asked him if he'd be willing to come on tomorrow.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Of course he agreed, good team player, He'll join us
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: today or assume me tomorrow at nine o'clock to discuss this.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: But I've discussed the Dodger problem in the National Football League,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in the Major League Baseball, i should say, and I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: actually addressed it yesterday just to clarify one thing, and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that was I don't I'm not blaming the Dodgers for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: using whatever tricks and resources they have to be as
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: great a champion as they can possibly be. I'm not
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: blaming them. I am blaming Baseball's system for allowing the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Dodgers to act the way that they have in the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: last couple of years. You know, we already our entire
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: lives lived with the knowledge that big market clubs had
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: financial advantages over small market clubs. And I defended that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I defended that pretty much my entire career, and on
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the basis of this that there's more parody, and it's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a proven fact in Major League Baseball than there is
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. There's a greater turnover in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: playoff teams from year to year. There are more different
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: champions in Major League Baseball than there are in the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: National Football League. Despite the fact that we've been bred
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to believe the Dodgers and Yankees win every year. Well,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Dodgers have won the last two seasons, but they won
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: one championship by the size of a baseball cleat, one
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: rubber cleat on the shoe of Isaiah Kiner. FILEFFA was
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the difference between the Dodgers winning the World Series last
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: year and the Blue Jays winning the World Series the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: previous year. They weren't even the best team in their division.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: The San Diego Padres were the best team in their division,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and the Padres absolutely blew a two to zero series
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: lead against the Dodgers because for some reason, they couldn't
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: get a hit off of a relief pitcher. The Dodgers
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: had to go pretty much all bullpen the rest of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the series, and the Padres couldn't score runs off of
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: their bullpen because the Dodgers starting pitchers were that banged up,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and the Dodgers win that series and go on to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: win their first championship. Even this year, the Dodgers don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have the best record in Baseball. They don't even have
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it in the National League. That belongs to the Milwaukee Brewers.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And as we sit here this morning, the Atlanta Braves
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: are only a half game back of the Dodgers for
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the two seed, so they might not even have any
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: kind of buy in the first round coming up. And
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: so certainly other teams are proving we can compete with
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers, even with their gigantic payroll and all of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: their weird, quirky things that they're doing to take advantage
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of the system, even with them adding Trek Scoobel, who
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: lost last night to the Chicago Cubs in his debut
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: as a Los Angeles Dodger. So I have been arguing
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: for a long time, pretty much my entire career, against
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: this notion that teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: don't win every year, and that small and medium market
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: clubs can compete with them, just not consistently, just not
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: year to year. And I was okay with that. I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: defended not having a salary cap. But things have changed recently,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll get into that in a moment. But what
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I really find almost hilarious are the same people that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: live to bash baseball on the national level, the people
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that for years fed this notion that Seattle and Milwaukee
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and Tampa have no shot against the Dodgers and the Yankees.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And we're wrong about that. I mean, they had a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: better shot, they had advantages, no doubt about it. But
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: for years, I'm decades, we have heard that small market
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: clubs don't have a shot against the big boys. That's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: been the national narrative from lazy ass talk show hosts
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: who don't even like baseball, and the only time they
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: ever talk about it is to rip on it and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: spread untruths. And the same people now, when the Dodgers
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: have now been given extra advantages to winning, the same
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: guys I can name them for you. I'd give you
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: one Colin Coward, The same guys that were ripping on
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it like the sport's broken, have flipped to the other
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: side to say anybody bashing the Dodgers, they're out of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: their minds, that the Dodgers aren't the problem, it's everyone else.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: How did that change. When the problem has gotten magnified,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it has gotten worse on the basis of two things.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers not only had all of those advantages, but
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: now they are truly using loopholes in the rules to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: give them even greater advantages. This deferred payment thing should
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have been snuffed out by Major League Baseball. The Dodgers
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: don't even pay show Aotani. Wait if there was a
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: former player by the name of Archie Bradley who apparently
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: he's doing some media work in Arizona. He's a pitcher.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He didn't end up having a great career. He was
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a high draft pick, very talented guy, and I had
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a fine career, but he ended I'm not having a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: great career, and by the end of the sea his career,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you know. And this was, you know, seventy eight years
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: ago when he retired, and he was just holding on,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: holding on to his career, just trying to get one
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: more paycheck, you know, that sort of thing. He was
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: doing a podcast recently and he said, do you realize
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: that I was paid more in my last year than
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers pay show hey Otani right now, because everything
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: else has been deferred into the future. One point one
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: billion dollars of deferred payments for the Dodgers into the future.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: How they're going to pay it, nobody knows. I guess
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the only conclusion that I can draw is that they
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: know something that the rest of baseball doesn't know, because
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of the owners aren't behaving that way. They
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: do a little deferred payment, but certainly not to that degree.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Do they know what's gonna happen in the elective bargaining agreement?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Do they know what's gonna happen to future financial resources
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for baseball? Are they counting on it being a bonanza
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in the future, or is the owner just gonna try
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to win as many championships as he can, build up
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the value, sell the franchise, and then take the extra
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: money that he made and paid off all of his
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: debts to show Aotani, Yoshi, Yoma, Moto and everybody else.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Is that the way they're going to do it, because
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that's not running a business from the standpoint of everybody
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: else is trying to make it make sense on the field,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and the Dodgers get to live in this fantasy world
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: where we don't even have to pay you real money
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: and we can use you show hey to recruit others
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: from Japan. So now we've captured the Japanese market and
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: we have a player who gets to pick and choose
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: which Japanese stars he wants to come over and play
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Dogs, and many of them deferring
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: payments into the future. So that's another advantage that this
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: has given them. And then let's talk about free agency.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: How fair is it that you are outbidding teams for
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: free agents like shoe a Otani and you don't have
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to pay them in the moment. How unfair is that
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to already teams that can't stack up to you financially,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And now you get to use monopoly money, You get
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: to use bitcoin to lock down players. Say that you're
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: paying them a certain salary, but you really don't have
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: to pay them until the year twenty fifty. Who knows
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: if baseball is even around in the year twenty fifty
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for goodness sake, So how is that fair? On the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: free agent market? If you sign a guy, you should
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: figure out how to pay him every single dollar that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you owe him in that contract while he's actively playing.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Otherwise it's not fair to any anyone else. And then
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: think about how that is advantageous to you on the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: trade market. No, everybody's ragging on the Milwaukee Brewers, Well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: why didn't you step up? Why didn't you give away
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: your top prospects like the Dodgers did. Because the Brewers
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: have to have those prospects in order to compete with
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers because they can't outspend them, so they need
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: their prospects. And they did offer a couple of great prospects.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers just offered a greater package. And you want
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to know why they offered a greater package because they
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: know they're going to re sign Trek Skouble. How can
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: you match what the Dodgers are offering if you're the
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers when you really need those prospects in order
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: to be as good as you've been the last ten years,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and now in an open trade market you were operating with, Well,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: we could give more, but we know he's leaving after
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: three months because there's no way we can pay a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: guy sixty million dollars a year where just not that
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: kind of market. And the Dodgers are operating in the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: same trade negotiations with whatever they give you will give
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you more because we know We're not trading for a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: guy we're only gonna have for three months. We know
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: we are going to re sign him in the offseason
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: and have him long term. Completely different trade. When you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: are going to get somebody for two months, and when
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get somebody for ten years, that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: is a completely different trade value. George Kirby would have
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: fetched a bigger package than Trek's scouble at the trading
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: deadline because teams knew they had three postseason runs at
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a really reasonable salary with George Kirby. We could have
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: gotten a bigger package for George Kirby on the trade
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: market than what the Dodgers gave up for trek Schouble,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: because years of control and value of salary mean something
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: in this sport except to one team, the Los Angeles Dodgers,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: who not only get to outspend everyone, but they've also,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, have decided that they're going to be
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: a lot more lucrative twenty years from now, and they'll
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: just pay all of these players who have agreed to
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: deferred payments and we don't have to worry about paying
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: them right now. I mean, if that's not a grossly
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: unfair system, that has to be checked and corrected. Then
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know what is. And so here's somebody that
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: used to argue against all of those that said it
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was unfair telling you now that it has certainly crossed over.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: And baseball has a perception problem. For years, people have
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: been brainwashed into thinking that their team doesn't have a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: chance against the Dodgers and the Yankees, and Baseball needs
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to change that. Excuse me, but our own and our
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: owners being cheap are the reasons that we don't get
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to sell a a World Series. So this is the perception,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and now the Dodgers have even more unfair advantages. Baseball's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: running a business. Their customers think that the thing is rigged.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: They think it's unfair. You got to have a salary cap.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And I think the biggest proof of why this is
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: unfair is because the baseball is letting the Dodgers get
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: away with it. They want them to win again so
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that it helps their argument come collective bargaining agreement time
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: for a salary cap so they can get all fans
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: on board. They are advertising for this. They're advertising to
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: baseball fans to jump on board their side of the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: argument because they want them to win. They want them
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: as an example of nobody else can compete like this.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna let them run amok with the rules
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and everything else. We're not going to restrict what they
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: do because we want it to look like it's an
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: unfair advantage that they have, so that we can get
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a salary cap finally in place, which we should have
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: a salary cap in place. The National Football League has one,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the NHL has one, the NBA has one. Why do
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: they have one? Because it is better for the sport.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: It is better for promoting the sport than it is
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: for an entire fan base, an entire potential consumer group,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of them to think that baseball is unfair?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: How can you operate a business that way? And so
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that's why we're going to get a salary cap. And yes,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you can blame the Dodgers, and you can blame baseball
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: for letting the Dodgers be the Dodgers, even though I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: don't blame the Dodgers for taking advantage and trying to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: win championships while they can. But their actions are the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: example that Baseball's going to use to rid us of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: things like this going forward. So I said the last
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: time I'm going to talk about it. But man, I've
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: heard some commentary lately that just got me worked up
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and I felt like I had to address it here
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: again today. All right, coming up next talk of camp
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: here at Seahawks training camp. After watching Hard Knocks last night,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I think there's one clear choice who the talk of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: camp is right now. Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: kh A r FM Seahawks rookies. Former Iowa offensive lineman
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Bo Stevens is with us on the show. How are
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you man? Good to meet you? Pretty good, good to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: meet you as well. All right, great to have you
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: on the program. We appreciate it. What's it like being
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a professional football player and not wearing black and yellow
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: every day of your life?
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: You know, it's pretty awesome. I still gonna say Gohawks.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But it's true. You don't even have to change your terminology.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was awesome. But you know it's nice having
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: football all the time without any school in the way. Yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: so you can actually focus on that twenty four to sevens.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: So there still are some guys going to school every days.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: They may just do it online, but yeah, well you're
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: being taken to school though. I mean at the profession
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: a level, this is an education. Compare it to like
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: being at the college level and the crash course of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: learning that you're doing out on this practice field in
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the last month or so.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, in college, I feel like it's more of
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: try and keep it as simple as possible, just so
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: that you don't have to really think during a game like, hey,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: we're going against this ponent, We're gonna run these plays
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: and just step left or right, and this is a
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: basic scheme of what you're going to be doing all week.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: But no, it's like you really got to know the
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: opponent across from you. You got to know their moves,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: you got to know which personnel they're in, Like I
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: never worried about that in college, or their nickel defense. Yeah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: so what, I'm still blocking the same two guys usually,
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: But no, you got to know the structure of the defense.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: And it's way more in depth than I really thought.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: It was. Like whenever you go through the draft the interviews,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: they're asking all these questions just to see what you know,
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: and obviously.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't know much.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: Because the amount of stuff that I've learned now it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: quite insane.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it sounds like you can handle it though.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: And then also, I mean talk about grown up things.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: You got married as well in the off season. Another thing,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: like in college, you probably had your head on a swivel,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you know, looking at every girl that came through the
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: bar door. And now you don't have to worry about
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. You found your girl, you found your team,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You're locked in.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's awesome. I found a really good woman.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: But it's weird because it's like, yeah, I'm married, but
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: then I'm the rookie at this team, so it's like, yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: like I'm getting treated like a little kid here and there,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: and it's just weird. It's like, yeah, I'm married, but
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like the lowest of the low right now. When
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: it comes to the offensive line room.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Were you used to leadership role the last few years?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I would assume that you were. Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: No, it's really weird because it's like every time you
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: go to another level, you always start back at square one,
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: and like being in college, you really grow up throughout
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: that process, and so it's like now an even bigger level.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: It's not like just the transition from high school of college.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Just like it's even more so. I definitely get a
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: lot of crap.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Well, guys, So if you're the sponge who's providing you
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the most moisture, the most water to absorb, what is
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it a teammate? Is it a coach who's the person
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: giving you the greatest lessons that you seem to.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Be gravitating towards the teammates. It's more of like how
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: to interact with everyone. Coach Shab is the one that
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I really learned more about the football and the technique
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: and what he's kind of looking forward for is offensive
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: line and how close I can be to that. And
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: then it's like the guys like, while I'm in this process,
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: they're really they're just trying to root me on. Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: they give me crap, but they're they're there in my
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: back corner saying like just stick with it, like we
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: see you trying, we see you working on certain things,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: but just like you're not going to get there right away.
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: And that's that's honestly what I want to do. It's
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: just they got to pull me back down to earth
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: and be like, hey, you're not going to get a
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: day one.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So when you put the pads on, did you get
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: your first taste of the speed or do you feel
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like that's still coming that moment, because every rookie talks
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: about how they have to get adjusted to how fast
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the game is at the very next level. Did you
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: get a little taste of that when you put the
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: pads on for the person?
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it was when we put the pads on.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: It was when we started running on offense during ota. Okay,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: it's not people talk about the speed physically, I don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: see it so like. I've seen people run fast. I've
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: seen people move quickly. It's more about when you get
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: out of the huddle, get on the line, all the
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: stuff you got to think about before it's the mill game.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: It's it's it's okay, what defense.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Is more so than the defensive tackle in front of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: me is faster than anybody I've gone against. It, it's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: how fast I have to think on my feet?
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much? Wow, Because you like during the play
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: you can kind of just roll of it and try
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: and nail it as good as you can, but you
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: got to have a plan before you got to take
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: away all your red flags. And I was really good
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: at I feel like I was really good at that
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: in college at Iowa. But it's a whole different world.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Like you gotta like centers got to look at coverage
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: like we never had that at college. It was just
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: what front of the end? What linebacker is the center
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: working too? And then let's roll with it. Now it's like, okay,
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: the we have safety rotation here, and so we're going
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: to pull our protection or pull o our declaration, backup
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: point or forward a point? Is you got to do
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: that in a split second. Wow, That's that's the big
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: speed of the game.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are doing it well? Do
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're making the impression that you want
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: to make or are you your own worst critic?
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: I would say I'm my own worst critic. I'm not
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: the center making the calls. So it's like I just
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: got to listen to one guy. It's it's in those
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: times whenever I have to make a declaration myself or not,
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: like where the whole line's working to But I got
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: to see something as well as some maybe somebody else hasn't,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: And that's where they ex ants drop is at right now.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: It's just getting more reps to be able to see
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: that clearer and speaking up whenever time comes and overriding
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: maybe the Center's call or the Tackles call and being like, no,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: I see this, and that just comes with reps, honestly.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So both Stevens is with us, one of the rookies
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks here at training camp, joining us here
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: at our set at the Seahawks training camp. All right,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So I got to ask you, did you and the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: wife sit down and watch Hard Knocks together last night?
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: No, so she's not actually here in Seattle right now,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: but uh, okay, did you watch? I fast forward it
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: through it like kind of just skimmed it, just see
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: if your parts came up pretty much.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, when's the old line's gonna show up
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: in here? You did get mentioned? It was because you got.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Married, yeah, which I guess i'd skipped through that last night.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: And so my wife was like, yeah, well you were
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: mentioning like the first man or two. I was like, really,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I didn't see that, So I had to go back
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: and yeah, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's right.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: When he asked the questions if I'm married, and I
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: completely didn't hear him and try to repeat himself, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, well I did get married.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get a You didn't respond quickly enough
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to that pretty much? Yeah.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: I think the other guys were laughing, so I was like,
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: oh crap, I didn't hear him.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Uh is it creating buzz though? I mean, here you are.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I mean you've already done something here. I don't know
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: if you've lifted or what you've done. But is it
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: what everybody's talking about in there? Because what we've been
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: talking about on the show today.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know it just came out last night. Yeah,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: so I just got in here this morning, and so, okay,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: I haven't heard enough buzz about it, but I'm sure
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: some guys have seen it. I'm sure some guys don't
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: even want to pay attention to that right now because
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: they got other things to worry about. They got training camp.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Where do you fall in this? Do you want?
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I wanted to. I wanted to skip through it and
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: see if like there was any like spots that maybe
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: the old line was in it. But other than that,
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: it's like, no, I gotta worry about the plays. I
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: gotta worry about showing up next day and having a
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: better practice than I have the day before.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I've heard football players never do. I mean,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: my career ended in high school. Never do end up
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: liking training camp at any point in their lives. But
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: are you enjoying it? Are you having fun? Are you
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: enjoying the process.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm enjoying challenging myself to another level, you know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: like going through college, first year training training camp. It's
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: a whole new thing. And that's kind of the spot
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I am now in the NFL. But it's that next
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: level that I can see in my potential, you know.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: And I'm just kind of opening up that book a
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: little bit and it's exciting, you know. And you also
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: got to think about this. It's like, there's no better
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: job in the world. Seriously. Yeah, I get to worry
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: about this twenty four to seven. And some people might
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: say it's long days during training camp, but you get
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: to do what you want to do. You're playing a
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: child's game for king's ransom, is what they say. Yeah, yeah,
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: I know, it's fun. I don't have to worry about
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the dogs that I got, I don't have to worry
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: about bills. I don't got to worry about any of that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Strictly football twenty four seven for six five, six weeks
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: or whatever.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: It is so I say that a lot about this job.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the best job in the world. Yeah,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm lying. Well, man, hey, great to meet you, have
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: a great camp. Good luck in your rookie season. Hope
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: we get to get chat with you again real soon
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and go Hawks. Yep, go all right, man, great to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: meet you. Fo Stevens joining us here at our set.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: We'll talk some more hard knocks on the other side.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM Right now the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: ABC's of the m's the Daily Mariner feature that we
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: do here on the show. We allow the alphabet to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: be our guide through a Daily Mariner segment and we
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: never know where it might take us. Some people, some
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: people have gone to suggest that I go out of
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: my way to make sure that I get to discuss
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the topics oh that I want to discuss, and then
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I just invent a word you know that matches what
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about. I mean, the nerve on
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: some people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: What words are we inventing today?
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Well, that's just it. I mean, why if you feel
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that way, which is insulting to the alphabet, Yes of
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the bit, then why on earth would we have left
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: off of the letter G the day that Mitch Garver
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: got released.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: It's true, not our fault.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Come on, now, tell you the alphabet knows not doing anything.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: G is for Garver here. It wouldn't been funny if
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I went with something else. G is for Garver, who
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: was released yesterday. Man, what a difficult two and a
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: half years it has been with this player that certainly
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: was coming off a good year with the Texas Rangers
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: when they won the World Series. If Corey Seger wouldn't
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: have won the MVP, it was going to be Mitch Garver.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: He had dominated handed hitting the last couple of years,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: and the Mariners thought, hey, this guy has been unhealthy.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: It's the only thing that's gotten in his way of
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: being a real power source for a lineup. He can
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: crush lefties, we can use him in a DH roll.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: We don't even want him to catch. We don't even
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: want him to catch. I mean, our first conversation with
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Mitch Garver was how excited he was not to have
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: the burden of catching and to just focus on his hitting.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And he told us every injury I've ever had was
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: because of catching. And if that's been my biggest problem.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: He was very excited about the opportunity of not having
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to catch and then being able to hit and really
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: see what he was capable of as a hitter, focusing
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: on that full time, and it just never came together.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: He just never hit. I mean, he's had a couple
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of moments here and there. You hope you would over
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the two and a half years, he's had a couple
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: of moments, but he just never hit and then had
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: to be used as a catcher just to get some
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: sort of value out of him. Yeah, and to his credit,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I think that the pitchers did like pitching to him. Obviously,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Cal liked him. Cal fought to bring him back on
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the roster this year when they had let him go
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and had already committed a million dollars to Andrew Kissner
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: and also Johnny Parreeda was also added in the off season,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: but in spring training Cal fought for him, got him
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: back on the roster. He makes the team and for
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: a while it looked like new garv. He was excellent
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: at challenging. He still is. He still was all the
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: way through the end. He was excellent at challenging. In
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: the year of Abs and the challenge system, and he
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: also continued to be a good receiver for the pitchers.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: But after hitting better at the beginning of the year,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Ashley he just returned to the same guy. And I
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: think that pinch hit against where Dan Wilson chose Mitch
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Garver for whatever reason, over Victor Roblaze last Friday, bring
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: a one seventy hitter off the bench to replace a
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: hot two forty hitter. It was just so inexplicable that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: maybe it did contribute. Maybe that was Jerry saying, hey,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna play our favorites and not follow logic.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna take one of your favorites away from you.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So let's bring up Johnny Pareda. He was doing really well.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: It was a flipping the coin as to who stayed
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: up to begin with. And so now that the team
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: has added a couple of pieces, it sounds like Johnny
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Pareda for Mitch Garver kind of rounded out those decisions yesterday.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it made sense to me, And I mean, again,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: you never want someone to lose their job, but when
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: you're not performing and we've been waiting two and a
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: half years to get something consistent out of you, it
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: makes it very hard to support having him on our team.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I supported keeping him on the Parada versus Garver
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: decision the first time around because he was hitting a
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: little bit better than he was. But now he's right
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: back to being the same, just swing and miss guy,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: passive guy at the plate. He's not really bringing anything
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to the table, and Johnny Parada did when he was here,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: so Garver did not have options Paraded did. They went
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: with Garver at the time to keep both guys in
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the organization. But now we're down to under two months,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: we really need to put our best twenty six on
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the field, and Johnny Parade is just a better catcher
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: than Mitch Garver right now.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Agreed, Yes, I agree. I'm glad that Parade is up.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: I hated having to send him down to Tacoma, but
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: I understood why they did it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I just I'm glad he's back.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: H is four hitting well. I do think we're gonna
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: hit better. I think Taylor Ward is gonna be fine.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say great, not gonna say even good.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's about a fine contribution. I think he
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: represents an upgrade at in our lineup. I think Brendan
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Donovan coming off the il is going to is going
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to contribute again. But first game for Taylor Ward and
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: then Brendan Donovan not only his first game back after
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: three months away he was gone since mid May for
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: goodness sake, and then five days away where he doesn't
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: even pick up a bat because he's bringing life into
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the world or helping bring life into the world. I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't expecting much last night. I didn't expect Taylor Ward
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. I didn't expect Brendan Donovan
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. And I didn't really expect
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: much against Troy Melton, who maybe you weren't aware because
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: he wasn't in the All Star Game, but he's been
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: as good a pitcher as anyone in baseball. They say
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: great hitting beats great or see me, great pitching beats
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: great hitting every single time. Well you can imagine what
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: great pitching does against bad hitting. So that's what we
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: were up against last night. I realized we didn't get
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the results that we were looking for the first time
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: seeing this new lineup, this new deeper lineup. But I
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: do think it's coming, Ashley. I think we are going
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to it. And even though you are getting to the
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: point where you don't want to just give games away
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: like last night and it ate nothing affair. I don't take.
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: That that whitewashing all that literally. I was kind of
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: expecting that result last night. But if they failed to
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: produce anything against Drew Anderson and company today, yeah, then.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is just the same old Mariner offense.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: And I hope that's not the case, because my gosh,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I was so frustrated last night, even knowing that you'd
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: said how good Melton was and that it was gonna
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: be tough for us. I just I just kind of
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: got to a point where I was like, oh, here
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I am again kicking myself because I was so optimistic
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: yesterday going into that game, and I was like, why
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: do I do this to myself all the time. Why
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: is it that I think, Yep, today's going to be different,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: And then it was exactly the same.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you something. Today is going
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: to be different. Okay, today's going to be different. They
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: try to get Anderson out. I mean, he's been a
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: relief pitcher all season long. I don't know if this
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: is an opener situation or if are going to try
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to get three, four, five, innings out of him because
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he is trained as a starter, so but he's been
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: a relief pitcher all season long. But if you know,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: if you can get him out after two three innings,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: get into a weak tiger bullpen. I think they're gonna
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: put some runs on the board and and now we
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: can start judging the new and improved offense going forward. Finally,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: eich I is for interesting. Jerry had some very interesting
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: things yesterday to say. In a little press conference with
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the media hoard yesterday, he brought up George Kirby, and
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I believe him when he says his name came up
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: in rumors. We take every phone call, which is not
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: unlike what John Schneider does. John Schneider has the same philosophy.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: We take every phone call. But in George's case, we
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: didn't really get past hello. The offers weren't the conversations
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere. He said of Emerson Hancock, we did
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: discuss him a little bit in a trade, but we
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: didn't want to move Emerson Hancock. He's had too good
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: of a breakthrough season this year and it was going
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: to take a lot and that the offers never did
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: get there. And then he said of Kate Anderson that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: we're not going to make him a reliever. He's going
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to We've trained him as a starter. He's going to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: be a starter, and so he is our sixth starter
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: right now. If anything happens to one of our five,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: he's the first guy that gets called up. And we
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: might get creative with Kate Anderson in September, but right
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: now we're still developing him as a starter and do
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: not want to turn him into a reliever. I believe
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: all of that. I realized that sometimes coaches and executives
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: don't always they're not always square with you. But I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: believe all of that. I believe what everything that Jerry's
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: said now doesn't mean I agree with it all because
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I would just hate the notion. I mean, this team
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: missed the playoffs by a game two times in the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: last three years by a game. Yeah, and if you're
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: going to play this, we can't find a role for
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: a talent like Kate Anderson who has nothing left to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: prove at the minor league level. I get not immediately
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: making him a starter when you've got five good guys,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: but I got to find a role for him. I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: got to find a position I mean, he's not extended
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: past four innings. I mean pretty much is just a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: long reliever. That's all he really is good for. At
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: this point, you're not going to get him to the majors,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and then suddenly haven't pitched seven innings. So I don't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: know what else they need to develop from a starting
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: pitching standpoint, because you're obviously not taking the next step
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: with him. You're keeping him cuffed at four innings. So
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: to me, he just looks like a really good reliever
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: piece that you could use that if you have an
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock situation where he only goes five innings and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: is a ninety six pitches or whatever, and you're in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: the game, you might be able to use It's kind
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: of piggybacking, but not quite because you're not committing to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: it before the game. But how could you not use
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: a talent like this down the stretch for two three
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: innings at a time, even if you're winning the game,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: if you're winning the game, to keep you in the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: game or to keep the other team down. I mean,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I think it is a mistake if they don't find
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: a way to use Kate Anderson between now and the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: end of the year. I think I would even consider
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: using him right now, immediately in some sort of bullpen form.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I would hate Ashley to get to the end of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: September and we have not. We waited too long to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: use Kate Anderson, and we missed the playoffs by a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: game where this time type of talent could really make
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: a game difference between now and the end of the year.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I can't even imagine.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, he could be. Real, man, he's one
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: of the best eleven twelve pitchers in your organization. And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: you're you're not extending him. You're not trying to get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: him to seven innings one hundred pitches per outing, right,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's almost you've almost carved him out to
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: be an excellent two to three inning reliever guy every
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: three days or so. I mean, he's untouchable at the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: minor leagues. I'd use him, you know, and then i'd
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: work about work on lengthening him in the offseason. But
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: right now, this team could use a talented pitcher to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: get them through the next month and a half. And
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: he is the answer if you ask me. So we'll see,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: we'll see how they proceed with it, all right, it's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: an hour late, but it's coming out your way here
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. It's reckless at breakfast on KJAR. All right,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: nine o'clock here on this hump day. And yeah, we
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: called a little bit of audible here today. Normally it's uh,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell joining us at seven oh five every single day.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: But I wanted a little more time with Greg here
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: this morning. So I thought, you know, your show starts
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: at ten o'clock. Could we do an hour with you
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: if we started at nine o'clock? And Greg reluctantly agreed.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I thought I was honored.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: My wife's never asked me for an hour in the morning.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: She's like, Oh, it's gonna be a different kind of
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: hour Greg, it's gonna be a different kind of hour here.
• 1:04:53
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• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell, News Tribune been on the Seahawks beat for
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: over twenty years, but for the first time, you had
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to watch a Hard Knocks episode last night in your
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Seahawks writing career and how did you enjoy it? Let's
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: start there, just as just as somebody watching the show,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: did you have some enjoyments in it? Like I did.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: I thought it was well structured, well edited. I liked
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: how they began very it's how the Seahawks beat. The
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Seahawks were purposeful in getting their Super Bowl rings when
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they did at the very close of the offseason program
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: in June, at the end of the mini camp, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: that was a good way to start the series. Right.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Here's the rings of the Super Bowl champion. Because Hard
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Knocks has not featured a Super Bowl champion in twenty
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: five years, since the very first one, the Baltimore Ravens
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and one, the league recently relaxed the rule.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: It used to be that if you made the playoffs
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: the previous season, you were exempt from having to go
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: through this hard dah Sinanigan's But now twenty five years later, Yeah,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: they that was the underscore that the start of the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: I thought that was well done to start that way.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: It showed Mike McDonald's personality, which we knew it would.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: It featured Devin Witherspoon, which we knew it would because
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: he's so energetic on the field and magnetic to cameras
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: and microphones. If they're allowed to be there.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: We can.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: We'll get to the news of it. But I thought
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: the Witherspoon contract and John Schneider's comments on it for
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: beat writers who can I'm not allowed to talk to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: the GM or the player concerned in this case, that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: that was the news of it that I wrote for
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: the News Tribune. But entertaining, I mean Derek Halls truck. Yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup surprising Sam Donald that he attended Taylor Swift
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: and Travis Kelsey's wedding. I thought it was a very
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: cool deadpan when I think.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Cooper was more surprised that he had than Sam was surprised.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Well, when Darnold said you were invited and went to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: the wedding and he just said, I did, very deadpan.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty good delivery, almost like acting.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: And Thomas Hammock, the running backs coach. Yeah, and we
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: don't hear that out on the field. Ah, And I'm
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: standing five or ten feet from his running back drills
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: and he's not nearly that way on the field. Maybe
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: he knows there are fans and kids a few feet away,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: but yes, he's a former college last year. Last season,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: in fact, he was the Northern Illinois coach beat Notre
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Dame in South Bend and now he's the running backs coach,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: with very colorful language to describe how those guys need
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: to Passbuck in particular and get into the f and hole.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: He was kind of the inn sung surprise star of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: last Night.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I liked everything you said. I did want
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: to before we start getting into some of the noteworthy
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: items that you dove into. Ashley discussed this earlier and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: it's something that you and I have discussed in the past.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: This facility, this region really was the star last Mike
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: McDonald was certainly featured and in a very interesting way,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: and there were other guys that were standouts, from Hall
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: to Witherspoon to others. Brady Russell, who I find funny
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: that I asked him yesterday we had him on the
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: show if he thinks he's going to be and he goes,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything that they would use,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: and they used him the whole show. He got his
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: handpeede on by a goat for goodness sake. But this
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: entire region, you know, I mean, they started it with
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: the Eagles. They ended it with the Blue Angels. I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: mean they the people that are putting together the show
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: are very impressed by this facility and the region at
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: large and vice versa.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I was told that one of the production staff, one
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: of the top producers of the show, has been told
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: by the Seahawks and some of the longtime Seahawk people
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: that you're part of the team now and we trust
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: you and we like you being here. And the Hard
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Knocks people said they've never been told that in twenty
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: six years of doing this show. Wow, that a team
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: has embraced them like the Seahawks have. Yeah, the space
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: needle scenes, the lake, we take it for granted because
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: we're out here every day.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: That was so cool seeing stuff that I see every
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: day during training camp and you see it all year.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: And it's unique. It's not like this everywhere. I remember
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: when TJ. Housmanzada signed and he said one of the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: reasons he signed is was Paul Allen fetched a floatplane
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: for him that landed right at the dock here about
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: thirty yards to our right on Lake Washington. This is unusual,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: it's unique. There is an off actor of just a
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: summer in Seattle in Lake Washington, and the I thought
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: with you, I thought it was really smart to end
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: it with the Blue Angels because how many times my
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: son was watching with me? Twenty three year old son said,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: how many times has Hard Knocks been able to film
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: a Blue Angels crew? Right, they don't because they don't
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: come to see the NFL training camps. Yeah, that was
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: showcasing the Pacific Northwest summer for sure.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that part of it. All right,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: let's get into some of those items then. So what
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: did you learn during the show since the show about
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: this Witherspoon contract situation.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Well, one is it's no doubt that he is thinking
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: about it and that he wants to be the highest
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: paid player, and his comments as he's driving, saying, we
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: have the hardest job beside quarterback. We'd have to card
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: these guys, these receivers, and were't allowed to not touch
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: them within five yards or after five yards. And if
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: you got one as versatile as good as I am.
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  Speaker 1: You pay him.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: And the implication is clear, you don't just pay him
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: the middle of the roads out. You pay him top dollar,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: which now is and they.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Know that though they're prepared to do that right. Yeah,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the first time Witherspoon's commented they won't
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: let us talk to him this time of year. For
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: fans who don't know. In the regular season, we can
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: go into the locker room and we can wait for
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Witherspoon to come out of his the pigeonhole hiding places
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: that they have in the locker room, the meeting in
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: the training room, the food room, the yogurt room, the
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: video game room, all these places. We can't go to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: shower room, the hot tub, and we can in regular
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: season and be in the locker room waiting for him,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: but not so in the preseason. There's ninety players, so
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: they don't allow the media in there, but they do
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: allow the Hard Knocks cameras in there. So we have
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: to take whoever they give us. Preseason wise, we can request,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: but they control who we get to talk to. And
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: they have not allowed us to interview Devin Witherspoon for
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: obvious reasons. They don't want to contract being the story
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: of training camp, which it is. The Other thing that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: was very interesting to that whole thing is I thought
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: the news of it actually was John Schneider a little
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: behind the seat pulling the curtain behind the scenes of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: how the sausage has made in the NFL and the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: world of perception in national media. When this scene of
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: McDonald meeting in John Schneider's office and Schneider voicing his
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: concern that Devin Witherspoon would be upset with then Ian
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Rappaport report that the Seahawks have offered Withspoon the largest
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: salary ever for a cornerback, which would be north of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: thirty one now thirty one point one million with Denzel
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: Ward's deal with Cleveland last week, and that Witherspoon refused it,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: did not accept it, and Snyder said that he told
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: rest assured to Mike McDonald that he called Ian Rapaport
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: of the NFL network and said, you make sure Witherspoon's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: agent knows that did not come from us, with the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: incomplaintent implication being there are things that come from us
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: that we leak to you, but this wasn't one of them.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Make sure the agent knows that. And that was the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: Rappaport carrying the water for Schneider in exchange for later
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: on down the road when they do sign Witherspoon. Guess
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: who's probably going to break that story. Yeah, not the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: people who are out here every day for twenty years.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: It's a guy who has never been here in the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: last twenty years. That's a good that's a little behind it.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's inside ball stuff for journalists and writers.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: But it shows how the narrative and how perception is
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: controlled within the league by teams with national media members.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was pretty I just kind of
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: rolled my eyes and said, well, of course that happened.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Of course that's how it went down. And also the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: corollary to that was that John Schneider took the extra
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: step to call Maurice Kelly. Mo Kelly the most trusted
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: man in this building to the players. He's been here
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: for twenty two years. He's the vice president of I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: think his player relations is the title. He's basically the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: confidant and mo Kelly, John Schneider enlisted mo Kelly to, Hey,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: you call Witherspoon and tell him or call him in
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: and tell him we had nothing to do with that,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: and make sure he's cool with all this. And John
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Schneider reported to his coach Mike McDonald that mo Kelly
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: did talk to Witherspoon and all was good, and to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: Medtherspoon's credit, he's out here every day. Yeah, he's not
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: doing the hold in thing. He's not poundy. He's the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: same player that he's been every year for this team.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: He's outgoing, he's talking crap, he's playing well. He's the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: guy like he's been for the other with risk.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Let's face it, when you are sitting potentially on a
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: mountain of money here.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: It does an injury. Players hold in or hold out
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: because they don't want to get injured and lose their value. Now,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: the relationship is such that, frankly, if Witherspoon did get
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: hurt out here, Schneider would make every effort to still pay.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: The question, of course, would be how much would you pay,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: depending on how much the injury, how serious the injury was.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: But yes, it certainly bears repeating that Devin Witherspoon has
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: been just like he would be as if he already
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: had signed the contract.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: On the field. Well, Mike's toddler is wearing a Spoon
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: jersey for goodness sake, So I think I thought that
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: was some product placement there. I think Mike weighed in
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: on how important Spoon is to him.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he did, and yes, Jack McDonald and his
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: wife Stephanie were part of in the Dog. We're part
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: of the show as well. The other newsy thing Chuck
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: was the Nicky mon Worre scene.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I was okay with everything until last night.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I mean that suddenly asked me a little bit worried
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna miss games, meaningful games.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: Well, to be clear, McDonald was fearful of that. At
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: four days before the Super Bowl. He said he couldn't
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: sleep the night after the night of Emon Wreri getting
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: injured at San Jose State and spraining the ankle. Then
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: two days later he comes back to practice, and then
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: two days after that he plays seventy of seventy two snaps.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: But McDonald is hyper worried about him because he as
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: he's articulated last night, He's so central to what they
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: do on defense. The multiplicity, the versatility, the different defensive
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: back sets, the blitzes, the stopping the run in extra
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: defensive backs. That's nick emon worry. He would prove just
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: last year to be maybe the best in the league
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: of doing all that. At the same time, he's indispensable
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: to what McDonald wants to do. They're trying the Anthony Bell.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: They've had rookie Bud Clark in there since, but Emon
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Worry is absolutely dispensable and McDonald fears missing him for
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: any amount of time. He was on a crutches on
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Saturday signing for Fins. You heard last night during the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Hard Knocks episode that Emon Worry was commiserating with Donald
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: and should I come out there. I want to be
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: with the team, but I don't want to make a scene. Well,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Saturday was the first time that I'd seen him out
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: with the fans autographing at the end of practice. He
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: did it with a crutch, but the crutch was propped
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: over his shoulder. He wasn't using it, and it was
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: a crutch that had a little round hook at the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: end of the top of it. And he was wearing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: a low, smaller right ankle brace kindie might wear a
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: basketball player might wear a softer braiska, not the walking
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: boot that they showed him in last night that he
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: had been wearing last week. So that's in a sense progress,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: and he's gone from a walking boot to a softer
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: brais a lower brais. But I will say in his
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: gate it's at the Newstribute Dot com and you can
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: see for yourself. His gait was not one that would
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: suggest he's coming back in a matter of days, but
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: perhaps weeks. It's a week to week thing for emon worry,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: not day to day. It's perhaps a little more serious
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: than portrayed at the start. And I think there's some
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: validity and not just protecting, but validity to McDonald when
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I kept asking him you expect him to play in
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: the opener and he said, I don't know, because I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: can see he truly doesn't know.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how many players do you think? And I know
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm catching you off guard with this. He would say
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: that there was that scene where he was like we
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: need this guy, that scene with his coaches, like do
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I need to stress this to you how valuable he
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: is to our team. We cannot not have this guy
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: for games at a time. How many players on the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Seahawks would he have that emotion about in terms of
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: how integral they are to this thing functioning the way
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: he does it? Like two or three, fifteen or twenty
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: one other? Just one two total?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Ernest Jones, Oh, I think Ernest Jones is the code.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Probably Sam quarterback.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: You can game planner if you know your quarterback.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, that would be a huge loss.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can actually function because you can game
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: plan around that. Right, you have Drew Locke as your
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: backup quarterback who's experienced and has come in and won
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: the games for this team when the starter has been
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: hurt in the last couple of years, and you could
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: game plan around with Smith and Jigba and a quicker,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: shorter passing aim and let's rely on the run more.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: You can compensate for that. You can't run the same
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: things without even worry. McDonald can't and won't. And that's
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: the concern is that he wants does He wants to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: be as absolutely multifaceted and confusing to an offense as
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: could possibly be, and he can't be nearly that without
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: even worry. I say Ernest Jones because I think he's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: the second most valuable, most important, most critical player on
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: this team. Because he traffic cops all of that. He
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: traffick cops the movement and changes right before the snap.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: He's the guy who screams the one word command that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: McDonald has put into his headset to change everybody at
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: the step. The way the Seahawks work and confuse offenses
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: is they line up in a look to make the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: offense give their calls and audibles and protection calls, and
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: then right before the snap, Jones yells whatever word that
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: McDonald has given him, gold or avalanche, and that means
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: that players go in and come completely different direction and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: where they're lined up. Their responsibilities changed from what they
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: were showing the offense at all changes at the snap.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: If I was going against Mike McDonald's defense, I would
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: go no. I would go quick count or silent count
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: every time I would catch them in the transition of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: doing that movement at the snap. Instead offenses, because coordinators
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: get paid millions of dollars and coaches think to the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: smartest thing ever in the quarterbacks of brains, they spend
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: all this time trying to dissect what McDonald's doing pre
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: snap with these calls and audibles and changes and motions
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: and shifts that McDonald takes advantage of that time at
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: the snap to move and change. I get up to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: the on and go and it's happened a few times,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: including with Sean McVay, that they have done that and caught.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks out of position.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: I've watched ram Seahawks games last year that Jones was
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: his back was to the line of scrimmage when the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: snap happened, because McVeigh went fast. I would do it
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: every single time because it would really handcuff what McDonald's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: trying to do. And Ernest Jones is the orchestrator.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: That it's very interesting just to wrap up the hard knocks,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: but just to wrap up the conversation. I was just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: thinking about when you were explaining that the off season
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: where people are going to study the Rams because they're
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: the only team offensively along with Tampa. I guess that
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: had success against McDonald's defense. And yet you know, McDonald's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: studying what did they do to us? Why are we
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: not able to stop it? And so he's had an
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: entire off season to try to figure out what we
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: need to do. Differently, Shanahan can't figure out McDonald's defense,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: and so he's studying the Rams, like what are they
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: doing right? And just this whole chess match of you know,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: people trying to figure it out and probably studying what worked,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: and meanwhile McDonald's changing everything to make sure that that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't work against them.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Ever, it's counters to the counters, that's exactly right, and
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: McDonald is changing his fronts. He is had put new
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: blitzes in. I won't specify how, but they are changed.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: They're different. The players are talking about that, and there
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: are guys in different roles. I think Byron Murphy is
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: going to have far more impact across the entire defensive
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: line than he did last year. He may line up
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: as a defensive end at times, and he may line
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: up as a nose tackle one playing defensive end at
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: the other. Yeah, you're right. McDonald's going to have counters
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: to what he knows are McVeigh and Shanahan's counter.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's thinking about Okay, Sean knows I'm going to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: change this, so what is he going to to counter
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: my change? I mean, that's true, it's absurd, it's true.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: It's why these guys get paid millions of dollars, and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: it's why the Seahawk hired McDonald as a defensive mastermind,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: chiefly to do what he did last year, which was
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: to beat Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I would love for nothing else to execute the charbonnat
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: two point conversion last year and execute it exactly the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: way that you did it. Well.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: That will never happen in the NFL again, because every
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: loose ball ever is now going to be covered because
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: of that part.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: That's true. All right, Greg's here for an hour. I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: talked him into showing up an hour before his show.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: He got to blow off the seven h five segments,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: so I thought that was going to be a nice
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: little trade. But he's been working all morning on his
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: show anyway. So we got one more, actually two more
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: segments with him here on the program. So we'll get
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: into some other stuff about the Seahawks training camp with
• 1:22:45
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's an odd time to play our Greg Bell
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: open because normally we have him on at seven oh
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: five every day. Today we've had him on for the
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: entire nine o'clock hour. So thank you to Greg, our
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  Speaker 1: if you want to follow his coverage of Seahawks training
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: camp in the entire Seahawk calendar year, and he's joining
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: us here today. I'm turning it into a three hour
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell show here today on KJAR because he's coming
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: up next with his own material from ten to twelve
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: every day here on KJAR. So yeah, I mean, I
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: didn't want to do two hard Knock segments, but there's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: still a lot of information from the hard Knock segment yesterday.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I wanted to at least run this one by you.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: My favorite moment in the entire thing was the Cooper
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Cup stuff, because I've heard that he's a coach on
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: the field, and then you see it and that whole
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald change where Coop just points casually out something
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: that he missed in film study and McDonald's just like
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: blown away, like why didn't I see it? You're a genius.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: I love you. You made me hate myself. I don't
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: know what to say right now. You're the best, buddy.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Don't ever leave me. But I should have known that,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Like that whole little exchange, that was my favorite part
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: of the entire show. And so it's nice to you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: hear that stuff about Cooper Cup but to actually see
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: tangible examples. You don't understand it until you actually visualize it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: It's true, and the players say the same thing. Smith
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: and Jigba really really thinks he was instrumental for the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: seventeen hundred yards in All Pro and Offensive Player of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: the Year that he got in one hundred and sixty
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: eight million dollars contract on the heels of that. The
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: coach on the field thing is what Smith and Jigbab
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: really talks about with Cooper Cup And he's been like
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: that from Rams people tell me from when he started
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: at the Rams, even as a rookie at Eastern Washington,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: he was that Wow, yeah, and he's well beyond just
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: his own job and I'm gonna do what I need
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: to do. He he understands blocking schemes, he understands the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: run game, he understands what defensive looks. He understands leveraging
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: of corners and how to beat the leverage. He's a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: confidant and an advisor to Sam Darnold at quarterback. He
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: is he is a very vital part that people last
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: year were criticizing his lack of numbers, that he's way
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: more valuable than just that and I know people fantasy
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: football people in such one production, and right, right, that's
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: not the entire Cooper Cup responsibility here. He's does so
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: much more than meets the eye. And really, how many
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: more numbers can you get when you got Smith and
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: Jigger with eighteen hundred yards and one hundred and twenty
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: catches and I mean they Yeah, Cup's role is very,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: very vital to what they do and it's not just
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: catches the numbers.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Was the Jordan thing that you brought up a week
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: or two ago? Was that at all about JSN? Was
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: that a message to JSN, like, hey, your numbers are
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: probably gonna come down here this year, Bud, So just
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  Speaker 1: you know, wrap your brain around that, but we should
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  Speaker 1: be better for it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe subtly, but it was an overarching twelve is One message,
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  Speaker 3: and it was McDonald reinforcing the twelve and twelve is
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  Speaker 3: one works. And when I talked to players about that
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  Speaker 3: team meeting, Julian Love in particular Chicago Guy loved it
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  Speaker 3: about the Jordan analogy, but his takeaway was, hey, twelve
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  Speaker 3: is one really does work. Team first does work, and
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  Speaker 3: don't be so concerned about getting yours and that everyone
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: will get paid, and everyone will get rings and everyone
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  Speaker 3: will be winning if we all do a team. First
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  Speaker 3: twelve is one, And that really was seemed to be
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  Speaker 3: the takeaway that was, of course McDonald's intent. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I could see Smith and Jig was sitting in that meeting. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: let's see what you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: So it's caught a coach of the future.
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  Speaker 3: I've asked him that and he's kind of laughs because
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: he says, Oh, I got four kids now, and they're
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  Speaker 3: all still young enough that I want to be their
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  Speaker 3: dad and do dad things with.
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  Speaker 1: Him, right, and a lot of money, and he's back home, and.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't strike me that he would retire and go
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: straight into football. It would strike me that he would
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: retire and go be a family man and enjoy being
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: back home in the Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: So are his numbers going to take an even bigger dip?
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  Speaker 1: I mean? How I mean? I know I've asked you
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: this a couple of times, but every day you learn
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about what Flory intends to do.
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  Speaker 1: How is he going to incorporate all of this talent?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it stands the reason that the wide receivers are
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: going to get less because the tight ends are going
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: to get more and the running backs are going to
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: get more. You mentioned that Emmanuel Wilson from Green Bay
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: said this is the largest route tree he's ever seen
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: for running backs. Tight Ends are going down the field
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: far more regularly and getting thrown to by Darnald far
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: more regularly than last year. At this time, A J.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Barner and such should have bigger than I've said. I
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: think Barner's going to be a PROB, potentially all pro
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: tight end this year in this offense. So unless they
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: throw it fifty times a game, that means fewer numbers
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: for somebody. And how realistic is it that Smith and
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Jibb catches for eighteen hundred yards the eighth most in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: NFL history last year and one hundred and twenty catches
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: and what was it, one to fifty targets or whatever.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: That's not realistic that he's going to do that every
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: single year. He's not Jerry Rice, nor is this offense
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: like that. They're still going to around the ball fifty
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: percent of the time, which is why Flurry is here.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: So that takes away a few more opportunities in the
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: modern NFL that other teams receivers get. But to answer
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: your question, I don't think the Seahawks offense is not
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: functioning properly this year if Smith and jigbis and Cups
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: numbers are lower.
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  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price, I mean he was certain. I mean, we've
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: certainly discussed him a lot since training camp coverage began.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: But I always consider that camp buzz is when you
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: do get players or coaches standing in a huddle and
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: they can't stop talking about a guy, and you can't
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: be everywhere at once. Apparently hard knocks cameras, you know,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: are so for them to have caught as many different
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: clusters of players talking about how impressed they are by him,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, surely, first round draft pick, he got the headlines,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: You're probably got your eye, you're probably checking him out
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: more than you are Bo Stevens. But for him to
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: be getting that much praise from his beers and the
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: coaching staff one week into training camps pretty impressive.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was, and it was noticeable, and it underscored
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: to me that Price will be the starter week one.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and McDonald.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: Pays attention to that, what the players say, what the
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: cachet is of a player, what the attitude is, and
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: the effort and performance on the field. He rewards practice performance.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: That's Drake Thomas, that's Tyle Katta. He rewards guys who
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: do it the right way and impress their teammates with
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: how they do it. And Price has done that, and
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's a matter of time. He's been slowly
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: getting more reps with the ones. He's still splitting time
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: with George Hallani. But that to me right now seems
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: a little bit like his nod to Jilani's seniority than
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: anything else. Yeah, it would be I say it again,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: it would be something wrong between now and September ninth
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: if Jedarian Price wasn't the number one back.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: In the opener, they're not worried about his skinny legs.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: He's got skinny legs.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: You is, You is. It's funny you comes up here
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: and he picks out one or two things because now
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: he sees it in person, and then he just sticks
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: with him and he won't shake it. He just he
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: rides in it. Yeah, Okay, I'm sure they measured his legs.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean he can't play football. But yeah, he looks.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: He looks sleek, I would say, not slender, small, but sleek.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: And I think that adds to his speed. They had
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: him back at kickoff return yesterday, something he did to
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: a national leading level at Notre Dame. Wow, I don't
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: think they're going to have their lead running back as
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: the backup. I wouldn't think that they are also had
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: to Horton back there. They had no Igmanogany, who was
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: on our show yesterday back there. But yeah, Price has impressed.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Let's see him in preseason games and blitz pick up
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: and pass protection and catching the ball, the things that
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: they really need to see out. They know he can
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: run the outside zone. He that was his specialty at
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame. That's what he did.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Look like he's got any trouble catching the football.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Well, he's sure as hell has got enough chances, man.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: I can tell you he's like a bullpen catcher out here.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: He just gets catch after catchup. They just keep throwing
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: and throwing, and Thomas Hammock throws and there's no pitch
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: count on Thomas Hammock out here. I mean he just
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: throws and throws and throws to Jadari Price every day.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well how many? What what will he get more
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: reps or f bombs thrown his way by Thomas.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: Ham probably f.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Shove more into more efficient with those. I mean think
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: it'd be used as an adjective, an ad.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Verb, a verb, and about thirty times in a minute
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: and a half clip, you know I want to dress
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: something On the text line four nine four to five.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: One at the Komodad's text line that for two five
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: says I believe Derek Hall is a good guy, and
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: he shared his amazing, amazing store and air.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: He was great on air.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: He was on my show last week and we had
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: a great conversation about his background and premature birth and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: how he is devoted to his mother. But am I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: the only one the fort two five says who thought
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: he looked like a d bag in that episode? His
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: shorts are ridiculous, his truck look ridiculous, just begging for attention,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: and then the cheap shot during the practice fight taking
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: out a teammate from first of all, the respond to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: that that is who Derek Hall is. He makes his
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: own trucks, he puts in and design. He and his
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: dad working his driveway. We had a UPS driver on
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: the show and the text line say I'm a UPS
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: driver and I seen him and his dad working on
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: that truck, the hydraulics. Yeah, that's what he does. He
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: loves that stuff his hobby. Yeah, he did that before
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: the contract, before hard Knarks cameras came on. The shorts,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: He've always done that too. The teammates have ridden him
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: about his short since he was a rookie here a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: few years ago. That's his thing.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Luke Wilson had his shorts thing that he did here.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: Too, right, Wilson did it for wanted to be a
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: seventies retro Casey in the Sunshine Band guy. And Hall
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: does it because of his physique. But yeah, his teammates.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Hall's teammates have given him a hard time about that
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: for a while. I wrote about the day that the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Hall fight with Bryce Cable Doo. That was a cheap shot.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: He flew at him from behind with an elbow in
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: the back of the head. And you heard in the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: episode last night that McDonald didn't appreciate the cheapsht nature
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: that he also didn't appreciate Brady Russell mentioning his contract
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: changing Hall, and I thought that was another interesting leadership
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: moment from McDonald saying, hey, that wasn't cool, and you
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: don't go after a guy's contract. That wasn't that was
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: not fair and above bounds, and by the end of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: the conversation you smooth it over and say, hey, okay,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: we're cool, and yeah, Russell and McDonald were cool. But
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: that's as McDonald said, that's a line you don't cross
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: on the field talking to guy about guy's money. And
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: Hall earned that and he has to respect in the
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: locker room for earning that. I don't think he looked
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: like a d bag in the episode. I see Derek
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Hall like that for the last four years. Yeah, but
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: I did think it was a d bag move to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: elbow a teammate from behind.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Greg with us for one more so
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: you get to participate in one last thing with Ashley
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: and you've never done this before in your entire career,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: all right, So we'll do that next to close out
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: the hour and then hand this sucker off to Greg.
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