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- 0:00OK, good morning, Hilkos. We're concluding bizarre Hashem.
- 0:05Hilkos Ki bravaem resh. Mem.
- 0:08Alef. We are on Sif.
- 0:11Zion. Shi Tuki Paris Shatuk.
- 0:15Mulikro at Aviv. Bashem, bashem.
- 0:18So it's a. He's silenced if.
- 0:22Shatuki comes from the Russian. He is silenced.
- 0:25Shatuk from. Calling out his.
- 0:27Father because he. Doesn't know who he is.
- 0:30Here let's. Keep reading from the Gemara and
- 0:32Kedushin. Aizu Shituki Kol.
- 0:35Shamakir ET emo, the Eno Makir ET Aviv.
- 0:40Ahmana, AL. Aslan, you have a child who
- 0:42doesn't know who. His father.
- 0:44Is only knows who his mother is OK so and so he can now he.
- 0:48He he, he was. He grew up as a child.
- 0:50Who doesn't know who his? Father is.
- 0:52It wasn't known when he gave birth and however.
- 0:57So Kayev the Kayla. Emo.
- 1:01So he is Kayev if he violates that the ister.
- 1:06Of hitting or cursing his mother, the anal.
- 1:09Kayev al Aviv. But he can't be.
- 1:12Kayev on his father simply. And only because he doesn't know
- 1:17who his. Father is really.
- 1:19He has a father, really. He.
- 1:22Would be Kayev. For hitting or cursing his
- 1:25father, but he doesn't know who he is.
- 1:27So if he points to any one person, calls him his father and
- 1:30does it Well, we don't assume or we don't know that.
- 1:33That's his real father. Alpha peshinidu kaimo, even if
- 1:37they question the mother. Afterwards, right he was, he
- 1:41was, he was established as. Being a shiituki.
- 1:43But then they question her. Or she finally one day opens up
- 1:48and admits the Amra Benploni Who?
- 1:51This is his. Father.
- 1:52He points to the father of this child and says, I know I was
- 1:54with the. Husband.
- 1:55But the man and this is it. So then Enonet Anash Alpiha.
- 2:00So he's already he already. Has been established as a
- 2:03Shizuki and he. And.
- 2:05So at this point, we cannot follow.
- 2:10We don't listen to her and he doesn't get punished.
- 2:13Obviously if it is the real. Father and one curses that
- 2:17person or has that person. He's obviously Kayev Shamayan.
- 2:20We'll have to deal. With it but.
- 2:22We as a basin cannot do anything about it.
- 2:25So whenever, as we're going to see.
- 2:27Whenever there is. The Ramamiz.
- 2:29For example, clarifies. If the only time you have.
- 2:35The Esser of. Hitting and cursing a parent.
- 2:38Is if you're. Higher than both parents,
- 2:41they're they're tickets in the same class.
- 2:42Like a hackish together. If one of them is pater, then
- 2:45the other one is pater. Yeah, the Koloa Viva emo and
- 2:49it's. Together.
- 2:50But so here you re. Technically are Hayev on the
- 2:54father, but you're you don't know who he is.
- 2:57So therefore you are still. Hayev on the mother.
- 3:00There's no couture, there's no heckish or alima to be put
- 3:03there. One from the other.
- 3:05The No Mehas Shivka Omaha Nokrit, Ino Hayev.
- 3:09Lo Al Aviv. The lo al emo.
- 3:12So let's say you have it. Could be a Jewish father,
- 3:16whatever. It is, and you know who he is.
- 3:19And the child doesn't come from a Jewish mother, it's either
- 3:23from a shivka. Right, that's the source.
- 3:25It's a Shivka is a goyish. Woman who converts.
- 3:30As a slave. Like a Shivka Kanani that we're
- 3:34talking about. Or the mother is a complete non
- 3:38Jew and never did any form of conversion.
- 3:40Not as a Shivka, not as. As as as as a Jew.
- 3:46And so the son is. So it's if.
- 3:50It's a If it's a Naukrit, Allah has the son, it's clearly not
- 3:54Jewish. If the mother is not Jewish, the
- 3:56son is not Jewish. We'll keep reading.
- 3:58But OK, well. Even if the.
- 4:00Father is Jewish. But I hear what you're saying.
- 4:03It's a whether you have a hava hava, mean or otherwise or not,
- 4:06or whether there could be Kiwada veim or not, I hear you.
- 4:09OK. Anyways, so banua Shivka Shivka,
- 4:13the son of a. Shivka.
- 4:14So he has a. Din oven Evid Evan Evid Kanani
- 4:19and he's 100% high of in many mitzvahs, 100% is higher than
- 4:26all the loving and he's higher than doing all the.
- 4:30Like Anisha Exactly at least. For the most part.
- 4:33OK, the low al E so Enoch Hayev low.
- 4:36Al IMO and neither one of them is not high of either.
- 4:41It's not his father, it's not his anyways, it's not
- 4:43considered. His.
- 4:45Father or mother, the halacha anyway.
- 4:48Or at least if it's the non Jew, it's not at all.
- 4:50But either case, the father. Is not considered your father in
- 4:53halacha. Such As for Yerusha for.
- 4:59For for Cuba the aim for Akka for Klala me.
- 5:03Shahita Harassa Shalobi Kadusha. Alphabi, Shalita, Tobi Kadusha.
- 5:09Now he also points out what happens if the mother, let's
- 5:13say. Starts out.
- 5:15As a non. Jew while she's.
- 5:17Right, she gets pregnant as a non Jew and then.
- 5:21That's Shiloh Bikdusha. And then she converts and she is
- 5:24now in Bikdusha, she's a convert.
- 5:26And then she gives birth after she converts.
- 5:30So that person also. Has is also.
- 5:34Putter from both and. These are all technical Turing
- 5:39on the right footed, the simple definition or.
- 5:43Exact. Talaqa framework of Qibodava aim
- 5:46on a Derisa level. We're going to see that there
- 5:48still can be. There are still.
- 5:53Some khyubim we will. Let's keep reading.
- 5:58Tet. Let's just go to Tet here.
- 6:01A convert. The son is a convert and both
- 6:03parents are non Jewish. Asur la Khalil Aviva goy
- 6:08ulhakoto it's usur for a gear. For a convert.
- 6:12Garcetic to curse? His parents or to hit them
- 6:17right, either parents, they're both non Jews, right?
- 6:20The parents are regular non Jews.
- 6:22And this this child on his own decided to convert.
- 6:27It's still usur. For him to do it to his parents
- 6:29who are non Jewish but. Lawyer was a when it's usur.
- 6:34To disgrace them, insult them Shiloh yomeru so that nobody
- 6:38should say Banu mikidusha Kamura Mikidusha.
- 6:42Kala. I mean, there's also like Derek
- 6:44Heritz and other issues. But also because it's would also
- 6:49be a Hilo Hashem that people would say look he used to be
- 6:53from. When?
- 6:55It comes to. Ki without the aim he used to
- 6:57have. Respect for his.
- 6:58Parents every. Boy has respect.
- 7:00For his parents hopefully and and if you would have if you
- 7:04would have stayed non Jewish, he would have had more respect.
- 7:07Now that he became Jewish you're telling him he can do less.
- 7:10It's not considered your parents.
- 7:13So it's lack of cover. You know.
- 7:15Akaras the toe. For wasting rate raising him and
- 7:18it's a Hilo Hashem so people don't say that.
- 7:20It's a it's a huge coal Hashem. People say, look, what's worse,
- 7:23to be Jewish avau? Evich Anish Dakhrer in law ichus
- 7:29and it and but in Evan who have. Is who's freed.
- 7:33And he has no right, no Yochos, no lineage to his, not to his.
- 7:39To his father. So when harehu Kamisha Eno
- 7:43Aviva. Cordova, so it has.
- 7:46No. So that's like one who has no no
- 7:48father. There's no Hashem.
- 7:49There's no people don't associate.
- 7:51Like that? And there's no, there's no
- 7:57connection to his. Father.
- 7:58But there's no problem with Roshen.
- 8:00Is it because he didn't choose it?
- 8:03I think it's because he was never considered his son.
- 8:05He was always considered a slave and he was never.
- 8:09So there's no Yeah, he was never considered a son.
- 8:13He was always considered a slave in the eyes of the people, I
- 8:16mean in the eyes of, you know, society.
- 8:19In his own eyes, the. Way he was treated probably as
- 8:22he was probably treated as a. Slave and not but it depends.
- 8:25But that's right, we're talking about a father, let's say.
- 8:28Who has a Shifka? Or and has a child.
- 8:34A random slave, of course, is an is a nobody.
- 8:37There's no connection. A slave to a man, to an owner.
- 8:45That's what we're talking about. When he's.
- 8:50So then enlo Yukos and he's not 5 cubit out there, right?
- 8:56Certainly before. But.
- 8:58Even though he's your biological parent, there's no there's no
- 9:03Hilch's cube without the aim. Maybe there'll be some for
- 9:09Karasetov. Depends how he was.
- 9:11Raised. But but a random owner who buys
- 9:15a slave? That's not what we're talking
- 9:16about for sure. There's no cube without the aim.
- 9:19OK. By a convert the rhombum does
- 9:24right, though the nohegebo makes.
- 9:28Us covered because. Again at the.
- 9:30Obvious it comes. Even though there's no insert
- 9:34there. Right, so you.
- 9:35Get you know, lashes or misa by koala and haka from a from a
- 9:39convert to his non Jewish parents.
- 9:42But still the rhombum writes for noidboom makes.
- 9:46US covered. And we also we touched upon it's
- 9:51similar. Idea to adoptive.
- 9:53Parents where you have to have tremendous.
- 9:55Akara Satov especially. From adopted parents.
- 9:58Who raised you well? And right, But in general we see
- 10:03Hazal never. Gave us clear.
- 10:06Definition or. Halacha by adopted.
- 10:08Parents. But as we mentioned, you know
- 10:12before certain on some level of the rice of the rabana, there's
- 10:17certainly something there that must be kept.
- 10:22The question mark is what's what's the best?
- 10:24Like fravelis Shiva, what's best practices because it's.
- 10:28Complicated. It's community, family,
- 10:30mignanium and all that. Kind of.
- 10:31Stuff. But OK, let's start with that
- 10:35was cubed. Bravo, Vitalmid.
- 10:37Khakham, Simon. Reshmem.
- 10:40Beth Shulalaris with name Harav Vidinshan Harav Shamaka.
- 10:45Al Kovodo, OK. Interesting, we just had.
- 10:49Parshas. Shmini and we're learning about
- 10:52this, Ananda Venavilos, one of the.
- 10:56A slew of history, whether it's previous issues or.
- 11:00What happened that they died? With the Zara so.
- 11:03One of the explanations is the Remora halakha Mifni Rabo.
- 11:08Moshe was there, Aran was there. They didn't take any aids and
- 11:11they they made a new halakha. They did something and they're
- 11:13based on Migdash, or the Mishkan rather.
- 11:17Kodesh Kardashian. Whatever it was and fine.
- 11:21OK, Olive, Hayev, Adam the Kavod, Rabov, Vieira.
- 11:26So some person is Hayev in the Kavod and the Era.
- 11:31Of his rabbi Yatir NI Bishal. Aviv even more than his.
- 11:36Father. So obviously it has to be Super
- 11:40Rabbi who? Who basically taught him?
- 11:45We'll probably get to this more later, but taught him much or
- 11:48most? Of his.
- 11:49Learning and right, not just the Rebbe for a year and later, OK.
- 11:55So anyway, so. A Rebbe brings you to Hayaola
- 11:59Mahaba as opposed to a parent if the parent doesn't also.
- 12:02Teach you, Tara. He only brings you into Hayola
- 12:04Mahaza and a parent could be both.
- 12:07Haggah, Avi. Shahu rabo muvhak now.
- 12:12A child who his father is also. His rebbi muvak so then correo
- 12:17so the dabro so when he calls him, when he speaks to him.
- 12:23She referred to. Him as.
- 12:25Rebbi Now you have a choice to call your father ABBA or Rebbi,
- 12:30which is better So if. It's your rebbi Muvak.
- 12:34OK, so then I can, but so then according to the Rama it is.
- 12:39Better to choose Rebbi. It's a higher.
- 12:41Level. Of of coven.
- 12:44Right, it's more. Prestigious of Alberabo.
- 12:46She ain't no Muvak but most of our rebellion.
- 12:49It's if his father is. Not as Rebbe Muvak, I I meant
- 12:55just to compare it to. Most.
- 12:58Of our ebbeam or not Rebbe muvaks.
- 12:59But anyways even your father is not your Ebbe muvak.
- 13:01Then how you define that question mark?
- 13:04Korioso ABBA. You call him ABBA.
- 13:09That's that's preferable. Yeah.
- 13:11So I don't know the generally the minnon is how you defined
- 13:15Ravi and Mufak. Especially for a.
- 13:16Parent. Who pays for hater?
- 13:19And in some places, it's tremendous tuition every year.
- 13:22But anyways. And then he still teaches.
- 13:26Them a lot. But generally as far as I.
- 13:28Know most. People or everyone?
- 13:31Goes by. Calling him ABBA or Dad, father,
- 13:34whatever it is. And that's the General Minog.
- 13:37And it could be. You know what's preferable?
- 13:40To the father, and the father could be Mocho and part of his
- 13:42covert. Of the of the Rabo.
- 13:44But anyway, whatever is better. For, for the, for.
- 13:48The father and for the relationship is OK, let's go on.
- 13:52Baze. Kole, Kole.
- 13:54Ko rabo kole. Kalashrina anyone who argues.
- 13:58They sense. Whatever from his.
- 13:59Rebbe, he's like. Being arguing on his Anashkina,
- 14:04Nikola OSA, Mariva, Imrab, whoever.
- 14:07Fights. With his rebbe Kaosa Imashkina,
- 14:11it's just like he's fighting with the Ashkina Mikhola Mitra M
- 14:16Allah. Kilo Mitra.
- 14:18M Alashkina disagrees, argues this.
- 14:23They sense. OK, fine Mitraim.
- 14:26So one who insults or is Mazalza in is Rebbe or he complaints to
- 14:35him rather. That's the more little
- 14:37translation. You're complaining, you know.
- 14:39Why did you do? This why did you?
- 14:41Do that and because of you I'm suffering with.
- 14:43This so that's. Like you're complaining with the
- 14:48with the Shrina, the Koh Ha Mehar, Akhar Rabo, Kamahar,
- 14:52Akhar, Hashrina and anyone who is thinking.
- 14:56Bad thoughts about his Rebbe. Is like thinking bad.
- 14:59Thoughts about the? Shrinath no like he's a lazy bum
- 15:06or that's one negative. Thoughts.
- 15:09That's or. He's doing things out of Gaeva
- 15:13and this and that. Azu Kolek al Rabbo.
- 15:18So what's an example of? Kolek al Rabbo, What is this?
- 15:21Koshikovayalo midrash Vyoshi Vidorish O mala made.
- 15:26Shiloh, Irshut, Rabbo. OK.
- 15:30So if a. If a Talmud opens up a new
- 15:33Kohler, a new yeshiva? And he does it without.
- 15:36Permission. So it's again it's it's it's a
- 15:39mahogas if this is referring. To any Ishiva.
- 15:43Or only if it's a Makkam. Of Hora.
- 15:46They're teaching halakha and again, yeah, you're teaching how
- 15:51to. Give Sakala.
- 15:54Many kolos nowadays, even when they learn halakha, they're not
- 15:56necessarily teaching you how to do.
- 15:57Sakalakha, but that's. Another story, but.
- 16:01That's if you're teaching to give.
- 16:02Halacha and basin come out whatever the basin.
- 16:06So that's one definition. Another one could be just
- 16:09learning Gemara and because that in itself can be considered like
- 16:14taking away. Leadership or serara?
- 16:18From one you just, you know, you open up your new.
- 16:20Place across the. Street or even not here the the
- 16:23Rabo Qayam and if you're Rebbe. Is still.
- 16:27Oh, it's still alive. That's when it's a problem.
- 16:30Alpha Pisha Hooba Medina Akheres, even if it's in a
- 16:35different country, but I'm going to see what's called chicane
- 16:37across the street, but it's still even if you are somewhere
- 16:40else, unless of course you have permission.
- 16:45The shock points out again, it's even a problem to check knives
- 16:50to be a bodek of knives. That was it's also considered a
- 16:53big position to right because you kind of have the right.
- 16:58To Apostle. The the local shock team OK and
- 17:03so we we weren't before we have Kabbalah nowadays and you get.
- 17:07Ricious. But.
- 17:09OK, Haga abal. Motorola Lokalabe.
- 17:14Is absaq O hara in Yeshua rioto alhhatlid varab?
- 17:18Shahdin e-mail but. You are allowed to.
- 17:22Discuss with him or disagree with him in Upsakalaka.
- 17:27If you're able to. Give you know.
- 17:30Proper proof all. Right, if you have a.
- 17:34To support yourself here, let's keep.
- 17:37Reading Let's. Close with Dalid.
- 17:42Let's read Dalid. What is this?
- 17:45Just keeps going. OK, let's start it.
- 17:48Asul, Adel. Maharliff Neraba.
- 17:50The Olam. A person can never be more
- 17:53halacha in front of his. Rabble and a.
- 17:55Person comes to you, asks you Shiloh, what's going to be the
- 17:58halacha complication in this situation?
- 18:01And that's that's. That's us, Sir.
- 18:05I'm a call. I'm more of a fan of Hayev Misa
- 18:08and if you do it in front of him, you're Hayev Misa.
- 18:12Let's keep reading the Afilu Nitiwat Rashut LO Mahani talk.
- 18:16Shalosh Parsaat. Imrul Rabbo Muvak.
- 18:21If it's your. Main rabbi and right you got
- 18:25most of your Torah learning from him and then even within 3.
- 18:29Parts to. Out there are my rights.
- 18:31Even if you have permission, you're not allowed to.
- 18:33But that's the shock, points out.
- 18:35That's the mahokat it brings on Rashoni and we say.
- 18:37It's OK. I guess it depends if you.
- 18:41If you have Rashut. Stomach's OK, according to the.
- 18:44Shock. OK, the.
- 18:46Emu rahok mirabo shneem azamil but.
- 18:51If you're 12 meal away which is 3 parcel Vishalo.
- 18:57Adam, I don't know. We usually.
- 19:00Refer to that as. Three hours, No 3 * 72, Like 3
- 19:071/2 hours of travelling time. That's usually what.
- 19:09We consider that. I don't know Vishal Allah Adam
- 19:12Devar. Halakha.
- 19:13Bedera, Mikre. Yahoo.
- 19:15Lahashi. Now if you.
- 19:18He writes. But if you are.
- 19:20Far farther than than 12 mil and someone asks.
- 19:24You What's the halakha you know? What would be the halakha in
- 19:27such and such? A case.
- 19:28Then you're allowed to give it to him even for even for this
- 19:33person. Because you're 12.
- 19:35Meal away and he's and it's. He's not.
- 19:38Always asking you in this place, in this time you're not, you're
- 19:41not liking, you're based in. It's just.
- 19:44You know you're Rev is 3 minutes to three, 3 1/2 hours away and
- 19:48you're here and I have a halach. Shaila.
- 19:50So then you're allowed to ask him.
- 19:52And then nowadays it's phone calls, I don't know, telephones,
- 19:58everyone's nearby Yahoo. So then Yahoo Lahashiv Aval.
- 20:02The kuboa aximo ulhura a lay. Shape ulhurot but.
- 20:08Set up shopper and based in and this is your mukum for doing for
- 20:12forgiving. Psalaka afiluhuba sofa olam asul
- 20:16ulhurot achiyamut rabo O achi. Iten lo.
- 20:21Rashid So then. Even it's on the other side of
- 20:24the planet, which nowadays is actually quite shy.
- 20:28So then it's. Usser unless.
- 20:30He dies or you get. Permission, right?
- 20:33Which is generally what's what Samik has.
- 20:37OK, Haga. The close of.
- 20:39Baraba Muvak, now everything we send now that you need all this
- 20:43permission and to be so. Far away.
- 20:45That's Baraba Muvak about. The Talmid.
- 20:48Khaber but. But the normal?
- 20:53Probably most. Cases of rebi.
- 20:55Talmud relationship. Afilu talk shlosha parse out
- 21:00although. OK.
- 21:03What's it called? We'll review this point.
- 21:06Later. But Tommy hover.
- 21:08Afilu talk shlosha. Parse out even within a three.
- 21:12Parse out Shari. Then it's mutter.
- 21:14To give up sock. The yesh omim The coma comisni
- 21:19rabble mamesh. Asar but if.
- 21:21It's right in front of your Rav, then it's us, even if he's not
- 21:25your Rebbe. Moufak, which is.
- 21:27Right, most. Of our relationships to the the
- 21:29rob of the Shoal you're rob that you ask sheilas from the world
- 21:32that you go to ashir but feel a little.
- 21:34Bit fond of Mamish, even if you're not Mamish right in front
- 21:38of them. OK, we'll stop.
- 21:40We'll continue tomorrow.