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Is Astrology Kosher? The Truth About Stars, Destiny, and Free Will in Judaism · Tribe and Tribulations With Julia Makowsky

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Welcome back to Tribe and Tribute Relations.
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I'm Julia Mikowski, and I am so happy that you are here.
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Today, we are joined with the kosher astrologer.
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Astrologist or astrologer?
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Don't even start that argument.
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Okay, okay, fine.
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I'm not going to.
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This is Yitzhak Pincus.
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He literally wrote the book on kosher astrology.
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And I know that these days astrology is the hottest topic.
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We talk about manifestation.
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We talk about moon signs and zodiac signs and what planets and what.
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But honestly, there's a lot of controversy within the Jewish realm because people are like, are we even allowed to use it?
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Is it Kabbalah?
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Is it Avodah Zarah?
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Is there all of these things?
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And honestly, I have started implementing a lot of astrological ideas into my life, like manifestation, and it's really changed me.
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And I want everyone to have access to that in a way that they don't feel like it's going against my moral compass.
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So I wanted to bring you in today so that we can explore that and go, okay, what is the deal in regards to Judaism?
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What is, how can we help improve our lives through astrology and kosher astrology?
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So thank you so much for being here.
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I really appreciate it.
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Sure.
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It's my pleasure.
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It's an honor to be here.
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Thank you for inviting me.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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There's so much confusion around astrology and Judaism.
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Is it kosher?
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Is it allowed?
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You know, people know there's a famous saying from the Talmud,
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Ain mazal Yisrael, there's no astrology for the Jews.
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or it might say,
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you should be wholehearted with Hashem, your God,
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seemingly to imply that you should stay away from divination or astrology.
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So there's this kind of negative feeling
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because we know some of these things.
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Then on the other hand,
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you know, when Adar comes around,
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Purim comes around,
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what do we see in all the shuls?
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We see all the big signs go up,
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when Adar enters,
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you increase in simcha,
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and you'll always see two fish on the thing.
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Because mazel adar is dogim, is Pisces.
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So you see that.
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You see it even in the machzer on Pesach and Sukkot.
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You'll see in the back of the machzer, there'll be the 12 signs of the Zodiac.
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When we bless for the rain and for the dew, you'll see the 12 signs of the Zodiac.
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And then in Judaism, what do we say when somebody gets engaged or somebody has a baby?
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Mazel tov.
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Mazel tov, right?
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So one second.
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On the one hand, it seems like it's forbidden, not kosher.
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On the other hand, we seem to have all of these things that do imply that it's part of Judaism.
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So a lot of confusion.
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So the big thing to understand is going back throughout history, from much of history, the way astrology was practiced was that they literally worshipped the planets.
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The Talmud calls it, how did they refer to the nations?
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Oyvdei kachavim, worshipper of planets.
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So the way they practice astrology is called astral magic.
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They believed that the planets were false gods.
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And if they did these spells and take blood and hear from animals and all kinds of effigies and build statues to the particular planet, and then they would bury this statue underneath the competitor's store, they would go out of business.
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So it was designed to harm your enemies or to benefit yourself.
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So it's worshiping idols and using sorcery.
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So, of course, that's forbidden.
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Now, of course, the Torah speaks very strongly against the idol worship sorcery version of astrology.
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You know, it's like, you know, when people ask me, is astrology kosher?
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I like to ask them, are animals kosher?
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It's not a yes or no question.
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There are some animals that are strictly forbidden, and there are other animals that absolutely are kosher.
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It's the same thing with astrology.
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There's the forbidden versions, and of course that we stay a mile away from.
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and then there's the permitted and kosher versions
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and that's what we're going to get into
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really understanding.
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There is one more point about the not kosher versions.
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There's also something called astromancy
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and they also believe in a very fatalistic version
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of astrology.
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That if you were born with like a Mars energy,
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an aggressive energy,
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they believe you have no choice
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but to be a murdering bandit.
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So the Talmud goes and says no.
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The Moran Shabbos says this,
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that if you're born with that assertive energy,
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you can become a shokhet, a moel,
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you can become a butcher,
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You can become a circumciser.
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You can become a doctor.
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You can use that assertive energy or bloodthirsty energy in positive ways.
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So it's interesting.
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If you've read the book, which I recommend reading and using as a reference guide, you talk about astrology being real.
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But it's not meant to control us.
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So this idea of, you know, I'm a cancer, so I'm emotional, or I'm a Pisces, so I, like, all of these definitions tend to box people in, in a way.
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Do you believe that we are controlled by our signs or where our planets are?
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Or is it that we have autonomy and self-determination and we can sort of pick and choose?
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Okay, so that's an excellent question because there's incredible confusion on this topic.
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So here's the thing.
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Understand.
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So your astrological chart is the baseline of who you are, of your personality, of your strengths, of your gifts, of your struggles.
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Okay, let's say you're a Cancer.
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So a Cancer has the difficult sides to a Cancer and the incredible gifts and strengths of a Cancer.
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So if you're a Cancer, that is part of your nature.
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That is who Hashem designed you to be.
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So you have to embrace it because that's how you're going to feel the most natural.
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That's who you are.
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However, you have work to do.
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You have to become emotionally healthy.
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If you're emotionally unhealthy as a cancer, you're going to be so sensitive.
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Everybody's hurting you.
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You're going to be like, you know.
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So that's working on your emotional strength, knowing that people, this is not personal and learning.
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But you still have incredible sensitivity and ability to pick up situations and ability to understand things, ability to be compassionate.
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So that's incredible.
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It is who you are.
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It's never meant to box you in.
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Owning who you are is the purpose of life.
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So are we born with certain tendencies based on the moon, the sun, the stars?
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And do we have that?
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If we have that understanding, do you think that that it brings us more luck or are we able to hit our full potential because we understand?
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Absolutely.
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If you are not stepping into your destiny, who Hashem created you to be, if you're not stepping into your birth chart, yes, your sun energy, your identity, who you're here to be is going to have a certain flavor.
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Your emotions is going to have a certain flavor.
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Your communication and thinking, it's not just your zodiac sign.
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Astrology chart is very complex with multiple layers that has a ton of information about who you are.
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If you're not doing your gifts, if you're not stepping in to who you are, no, life is going to not go well.
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Life is really, that's when people get stuck.
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That's when things are like, why is my life so miserable?
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Why am I not doing what I'm here to do?
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Why am I not excited about life?
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Because you're not stepping into your power, into your gifts who Hashem created you to be.
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And that is your birth chart.
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So when you talk about stepping into your power, which is honestly huge, I think that not only is it trending to step into your power these days, but there's this idea of like self-determination and figuring out who you are meant to be.
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How do you use your birth chart in order to understand yourself better and then figure out what your power truly is?
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Okay, so the birth chart is such a gift from God.
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Like this is, it's giving you information that nobody else in the world can give you about who you are.
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So there's incredible amounts of information that shows you, it can show you your struggles, what you first have to overcome.
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If you have Chiron, which is the wounded healer connected to one of your planets, that means there might have been some kind of trauma or wounding and you have to first heal that in order to get functioning.
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We're not, we're not born ready and set people.
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We have to work through our stuff.
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We have to, we have five parts of ourselves.
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We have our emotions.
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We have our overall identity.
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We have our left brain, our mercury, our communication and thinking, our Venus, our intuitive and creative side, and our Mars, our instinctual energy.
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We have to make sure that we get each side, each part fully functioning.
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There also might be conflicts in the chart between two sides of ourselves.
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We have to learn how to work through those conflicts.
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So it's all about, you know, when you see the chart, you can see what have I already actualized?
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What am I not yet aware of?
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What are my work that I have to do?
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That's just the birth chart.
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And then you can see the timing of when certain parts are ripe and ready to explode into this
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world, why things are ready to get going.
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So it's wild that you have a roadmap of your entire life of who you are, when major events
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in your life are happening, when you're ready to utilize those gifts to the next level.
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And it's all there.
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It's so interesting because as a therapist, you know, we do a lot of work or we call it
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work, okay, where we understand our traumas and we work through issues that we've had in the past
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or things we want to grow in.
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And we were talking a little bit before we started about this idea
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that if you figure out according to your charts and astrology, you can really pinpoint a lot of
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the work you have to do with a therapist.
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Can you explain that a little bit?
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Because I found that
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fascinating.
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Absolutely.
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So for example, let's say, so the moon, it represents your emotions.
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So in your chart, you can see your moon, first of all, which zodiac sign it is.
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And that's going to
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be a lot of work depending on which zodiac sign it is.
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But do you have planets connected to it?
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If you have Saturn connected to your moon, Saturn is all about discipline and restrictions and hard
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work.
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And then whenever I see that, it breaks my heart because usually it means that the person
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growing up did not feel emotionally supported because Saturn was restricting.
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And that can
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have been very, very painful.
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And that's work that they need to do on that.
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Now, nothing can take
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away from the pain, but it wasn't meaningless.
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It had a purpose because it's here to help that
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person become emotionally self-supporting and have this inner strength because they're going to need
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to do certain things in their life that's going to require that incredible inner emotional strength
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that they can forge ahead and do it.
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And that's why they had this painful, difficult experience.
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because it needed to be part of their personality.
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But you can see the specific areas, where the struggles, where the conflicts,
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and that's so helpful to then go to therapy.
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Okay, this is my issue.
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This is my struggle.
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How do I take the next steps?
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How do I grow from this?
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I think that that's an important piece to sort of highlight,
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where we talk a lot about understanding oneself and then putting it into action.
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So here with the astrological information you have, it's not like, okay, a get out of jail free card.
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Like, okay, well, this is my personality.
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So I'm just going to like, I'm stuck.
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Okay.
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You can either rest on your laurels and go, okay, this is who I am.
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So I can't go any further.
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Or you can take the information you have and go, okay, yes, I went through trauma.
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Yes, I have a tendency to be more emotional or X, Y, and Z, but I'm going to use that as my power.
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And we talk about stepping into your power.
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You can use that as a catalyst to do more.
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I'm finding now as I've started exploring this whole topic that I am not defined by my past or what my signs are, but I'm more about figuring out how that built me into the person I am now and what I can do for the future in order to build everyone else around me up as well.
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And I think that that is a huge, huge aspect of astrology is understanding who you're meant to be.
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So the question here is, in Judaism, is there this sense of, oh, no, we're able to tell the future a little bit?
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Because you said to me previously, like, you're going to be in a certain, like, place in a year from now.
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But does that go against like the idea of Hashem and like fortune telling and all of this stuff?
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It's to me, I'm going around a little conflict here.
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Right.
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So that's an excellent question.
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So to be very clear, I would never specify something specific is going to happen.
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Whenever you see astrologers tell you something specific is going to happen in your life, that is false.
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That is not true.
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That is not kosher.
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It's not kosher.
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It's not true.
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Nobody can predict the future.
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However, so what I told you is that you have Pluto, which is all about transformation,
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death and rebirth, the phoenix rising from the ashes, the caterpillar growing into the
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butterfly is going to be connecting with your north node.
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And your north node is your purpose in this world.
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So that's a massive transformational time to your purpose in this world.
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So that's you ready, getting ready to level up to the next level of transformation.
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I can't tell you any specific of what's going to develop, but this is, it's a once in a lifetime energy.
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And this is directed by God.
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God is the one who's sending Pluto to connect with your North Node.
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He's the one who designed the system.
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So this is not going against God.
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This is recognizing God's plan for you.
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Okay, Hashem, you heard that.
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We're going to manifest this and actualize it and make it happen.
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So actually on the topic of manifestation, because I know this is like hot now, everyone's
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manifesting.
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You see it all over TikTok and Instagram, like you're going to find your lover and you're
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going to make a billion dollars and you're going to do all these things because I'm the
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strongest.
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Fabulous.
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I love all of it.
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In therapy, we call it positive self-talk.
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But is there power in manifestation?
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Is it connected to prayer?
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How does that even look?
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What does that even look like within our realm?
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Okay, that's a phenomenal, phenomenal question, and really gets into the heart of living.
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How does life work?
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That's really, that's my favorite question, my favorite topic, trying to understand how life works.
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So yes, manifestation is actually deeply connected to prayer.
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We say it in Ashray three times a day,
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Hashem opens His hand,
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and satisfies the will of every living creature.
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Literally, you see it, and we're supposed to, if you're wearing tefillin,
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When you say that, Pasek, you're supposed to kiss the tefillin on the hand and the head because you're supposed to put extra emphasis on that.
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That is manifestation that God opens his hand and allows you to satisfy the will of your ratzah and of your will.
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That's a gift that God has bestowed on every human being.
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So absolutely we can manifest.
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Now, I'll put a caveat to this.
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So manifestation is about knowing who you are and manifesting who your purpose in this world, what you're here to do.
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It's not about fame and fortune.
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I want to be a billionaire.
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I want to manifest marrying a model.
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It's not about your ego.
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You can't manifest your ego.
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It's about manifesting your core purpose because there's an alignment.
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If you get into alignment with God, with who God created you to be, then there's nothing to stop you.
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you have God on your side moving forward.
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Now, if you're running away from your purpose and you're
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trying to do something else, I don't care how much you manifest, life is not going to be working well.
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So you have to be in alignment with who you are, with your mission and purpose in this world,
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and then you can do incredible manifestation.
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So how do you align with your purpose?
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How do
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you even know what your purpose is if you're saying like, okay, well, you have to align with
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it.
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What does that even look like?
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Okay.
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So first, that's what the birth chart is here for.
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You can literally look at your birth chart and see your strengths, your superpowers, your gifts.
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You can see a very clear purpose for each person, what you're here to do and the tools that you have to do it in.
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Now, it can't be specific.
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It's not going to tell you a specific thing.
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So, for example, if you have Chiron very strong in your chart, you're here to be the wounded healer.
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So you may have suffered and gone through difficulty in your life.
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But ultimately, it's meant that you should have, as you're working to heal yourself, you gain expertise in the healing process, and then you're able to help heal others.
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Now, there are many ways to heal.
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You can be, it doesn't have to be a doctor, it doesn't have to be a therapist.
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A lot of things you can be doing.
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I'm, as an astrologer, I'm helping to heal people by validating who they are and what they're here to do.
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So there are many ways to do it.
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And you can see clearly in the chart what you're here to do.
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So in my chart, I have Pluto connected to Mercury, communication and thinking.
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That means I'm here to go deep into things, not look at things at a surface level.
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And I'm also here to question the elephant in the room that everybody's ignoring.
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So when I discovered astrology, I was like, wait.
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And I saw how deeply it's connected to Judaism.
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Avram Bovina was an astrologer.
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Ibn Ezra was an astrologer.
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It's all over the Torah.
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How come nobody's talking about this?
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And it has so much information about your life to understand yourself, your struggles, your gifts.
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And nobody's talking about it.
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So I had to shout from the rooftops.
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And that's why I wrote a 500-page book going through incredible detail about how astrology
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can connect to Judaism and what it can do in your life.
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And I'm going, I'm shouting it from the rooftops so I can see my purpose, all those
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gifts and superpowers within my chart.
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And I'm here to develop and hone.
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I got to do the healing.
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I got to do the self-work.
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And then I can find my purpose.
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Yes, every person can see their purpose in their birth chart.
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OK, let's say somebody wants to start manifesting.
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What's the first step that they need to take?
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What's their first manifestation that they should do?
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So first thing you have to do is you have to be conscious.
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You have to know who you are.
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Know thyself, right?
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That's rule number one.
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Understand your purpose and your process.
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And then the next question is, are you in alignment with your purpose?
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Are you doing what you're here to do?
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And then you can start manifesting.
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So before you jump into manifesting, you have to first do some inner work, some inner inquiries, know who you are, where are you in your life, do you understand your purpose and role, and then you can really begin manifesting.
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What happens if we're confused about our purpose and role?
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How do we manifest something if we don't even know what ends up?
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So you have to find clarity.
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That's so, you know, we're here to be truth seekers and here to find out who we are.
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Call me up.
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Do a chart reading.
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I'll bring you the clarity that you need.
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What happens if, listen, I follow a lot of these people on TikTok and Instagram, and they're giving you like almost scripts to help manifest money or relationships or whatever it is.
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Is that considered a votazara?
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So I can't speak, I don't know the specific thing.
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I'm just asking in general.
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So I don't know what the specific thing is.
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But what does that mean?
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It can't, it's not an external process.
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That's what people have to understand.
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It has to come internally first.
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It has to work from the inside out.
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It can't be just something, oh, I was given, if I read this poem, I'll be able to manifest.
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No, no.
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You have to do the inner work and it has to come from within you.
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So that's the crucial point.
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It's not just like a free, oh, I want to be a billionaire.
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It doesn't work that way.
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And you could say that a billion times and it won't happen if it's not in your destiny.
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You have to feel it in every pore.
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It has to be real.
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Manifesting, it's not just saying words.
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You have to feel it in your kishkas.
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Like, you know, when I discovered kosher astrology and I felt I have to write this book, like it took me five years to write it.
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But like I was obsessed with it.
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I knew I had to bring this out.
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So this was in every pore that I had.
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This was come.
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I knew that this was an incredible truth.
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It was incredible alignment with who I am.
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And I knew there's nothing.
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And again, I didn't have all the answers.
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I didn't know what's my next step.
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every single time when I didn't know where to go,
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Hashem opened the door and the right place,
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the right things manifested
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because I was in alignment with my purpose
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and what I was here to do.
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And I felt it in every fiber of my being.
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I totally see that actually,
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because it took me a long time to get to a place
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where I felt comfortable being outward and public facing,
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like starting the podcast.
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And I saw clients one-on-one
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And that felt very safe for me.
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And because one-on-one, I'm great.
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I'm really shy in real life.
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Everyone thinks that I have this like boisterous personality and I'm out there, but really I'm an introvert.
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And it took a long time for me to sort of step into myself and go, okay, I actually love working one-on-one, but I want a bigger reach.
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I know who I am.
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I know that like my Tafkid in life, my goal in life is not to just be behind
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a closed door.
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It needs to be shouted from the rooftops, right?
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Saying like, I want to be able
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to help you get a better life.
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These are the skills and tools that have helped me and countless
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amounts of my clients.
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And I felt really so aligned with that, that every time I thought I
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was going to stumble, Hashem opened a door.
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And I think that really is the definition of manifesting.
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I'm like, I'm going to do this.
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I know that I can help you and you and you, but I just need a
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platform to do so.
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And every single time I thought I was going to stumble, Hashem's like, no,
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you've got this girl.
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And is that really what manifesting is?
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Absolutely.
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No, you described it perfectly.
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It's beautiful.
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So your process is the process that
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everybody needs to go through.
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I went through that process also.
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I'm also a huge introvert.
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You know, up until 40, I never spoke publicly.
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If you would have told me back then that I'll
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be speaking in front of thousands of people, I'd say, you're absolutely crazy.
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You're mixing me up
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with other people.
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And that's actually something I see a lot.
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People shrink when I show them
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their capabilities and what they're here to do.
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Like, no, no, not me.
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And I can show you the part in the chart
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that you have to overcome that inner belief,
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that inner voice.
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I'm not good enough.
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I'm not special enough.
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You know, the best example I like to give
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is from the Torah.
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When Hashem came to Moshe Rabbeinu,
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the greatest prophet in history,
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and said, I want you to lead the Jewish people
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out of Mitzrayim.
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I want you to be their spokesperson.
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What did Moshe Rabbeinu answer?
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He answered him three things to God.
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The first thing he said,
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mi'oneichi, who am I?
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Why are you picking me?
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I'm nobody special.
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and that's something that we have to work through.
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Like, why are people listening to me?
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Why would my painting,
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why would people want to buy my painting?
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The next thing he said,
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take a higher in a coin, my brother.
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He's a great leader.
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Pick him.
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Choose him to be the leader, not me.
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And the third thing he said,
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and this I see so often,
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I'm a flawed human being.
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I have a speech impediment.
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Moshe Rabbeinu had a lisp.
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How can I be the spokesperson?
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How can I get up when I can't speak properly?
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I can't.
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This was Moshe Rabbeinu,
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the greatest Navi in our history had these doubts.
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It's so human to have these inner struggles when
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we're not yet ready, when we haven't yet stepped into our power, when we haven't yet become
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confident.
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And there's stuff in the chart where we can see what's going on, what's keeping us back.
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But once you open up, you're ready to take the next level.
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And that's what transformation is
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all about.
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That's what Pluto, it's going from caterpillar to butterfly.
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If you tell a caterpillar
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that it can fly, it looks at you like you're crazy.
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What are you talking about?
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I need 28
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legs just to walk.
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I've never flown in my life.
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But once it emerges, it turns into a cocoon and
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emerges as a butterfly.
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So every human being is here to go through that process from wherever
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you think you are today.
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No, I'm nothing special.
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I can't be that person who influences thousands of
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people and impacts the world.
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Absolutely, you were meant for that.
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But you first got to get in touch
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with yourself, do the healing work, and then you're ready to fly.
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It's also about believing
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in yourself.
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And I think that that is really the whole gist of manifestation is like, you have to
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believe that what you're doing is your superpower.
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That's like the first and foremost.
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So I think
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that that's also leading into the next idea of luck, of mazel, right?
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Because there's this idea
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that like, this person has mazel, this person doesn't have mazel.
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Do you think some people are
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born luckier than others?
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Absolutely not.
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Oh, really?
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Okay.
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I'm shocked by that one.
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Absolutely not.
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It's such a misunderstanding of what mazel is.
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Mazel is not like, okay,
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this person is lucky.
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Mazel is your particular birth chart.
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So you can have, people can be very,
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very different.
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I do birth charts all the time and I see such huge differences in what Hashem
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created each person's role to do.
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So that's what it means.
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If you want to be successful,
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you want to do incredibly well, you have to do the inner work, the healing work.
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If you're stepping
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into your power, it's about activating your purpose and tafkid.
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So if you're in alignment
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with who Hashem created you to be, you absolutely, things will really take off.
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Are there certain times during the year where energy, there's always this like conversation
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about energies and Mercury's in retrograde
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and I'm like all of these things.
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Is there certain times where you are better suited
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to do certain things like,
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okay, right now Mercury's not in retrograde,
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so I'm not gonna be angry or mad
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or whatever the case may be.
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Is that a real thing or is that baloney?
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So there's definitely energies happening all the time.
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However, a lot of what people say,
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don't do anything in Mercury's retrograde,
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that's a lot of baloney.
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Absolutely, those things are not going to affect you.
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You can't live your life that way.
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But yes, we have this concept of Rosh Chodesh, right?
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What's Rosh Chodesh?
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It's a new month, a new moon.
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The sun meets the moon.
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It's a new energy, a new beginning.
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So yes, the day before the new moon, the end of the month,
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is going to have more of a deader type of energy
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because it's an ending type of energy.
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And the new moon people are going to be more energized.
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But that doesn't mean you can't do things.
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It's not meant to prevent you from doing things.
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But understand there is a flow of energy that's constantly affecting us, but it's not meant to limit us.
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That's the part where we should never feel limited.
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Do what you need to do.
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Understand the weather.
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You know, it is going to be a snowstorm.
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Fine.
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Put on your earmuffs.
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Put on your muffins.
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You can still go and do what you need to do.
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Understand the weather, but don't let it determine your life.
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Don't let it stop you from doing what you need to do.
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Do you think that there's like a better time to be making big life changes versus when you're not supposed to be based on energy and like Rosh Chodesh or new moon or things like that?
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Is there a better time?
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So I think it works naturally.
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So like I discovered astrology in 2009, but I lived like, you know, half my 30 something years before I knew anything about astrology.
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And when the time came, for example, to something called a progressed new moon, that's a whole
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new beginning for the next 30 years of your life.
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So you're ending your last chapter of life.
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I knew nothing about astrology.
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And at that time, that's when I quit my job and I started a nonprofit organization.
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I went a whole different direction in my life.
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This is without knowing astrology.
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So it's here.
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The energy is there.
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It's going to lead you.
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You don't have to plan it.
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Like, you know, with writing the book, I didn't plan it.
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But at that time, I had once in 40 years Neptune connecting to my son.
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Neptune is about incredible inspiration.
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And so when I was writing the book, that was the time when I had this incredible inspiration
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tapping into the collective.
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So I didn't plan it like that, but it's naturally going to unfold for you like that.
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So again, you don't have to look at them, oh, I can do this now.
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I can't do this now.
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Let go of all of that.
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Be free to do what you need to do, and you will see life will naturally unfold, and the
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major new beginnings will happen at certain astrological timing of your life.
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I always tell people there's only two things you need to do.
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Number one is stay open because people have fixed ideas about who I am,
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what I'm here to do, what my skill sets are.
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No, you are vastly more talented than you think you are.
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So stay open to messages that you're getting to expand your life in certain areas
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and do the healing work.
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That's it.
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Two things you need to do.
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Continuously do the healing work.
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Work on yourself and your character and who you are and just stay open and then leave the rest up to God.
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The timing will come.
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Now, if you want to see the big picture, you can see in astrology what's happening, when it's the development process, what's going on.
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And that can be very helpful.
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But that's going to be part of the process.
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You don't have to plan your life accordingly.
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I don't know if this is in your wheelhouse, but I connect so much to mikveh, right?
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And we talk about like rebirth and being reborn when it comes to those things.
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Does that have anything to, like a woman's cycle, does that have what to do with astrology as well?
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So absolutely everything is interconnected.
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So, you know, just think of like Rosh Chodesh, the moon cycle, right?
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So that's connected to everything.
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And water is deeply connected to everything.
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So everything is about renewal and energy.
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It's all deeply connected.
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It's not like this separate system, astrology and Judaism.
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And they're all intertwined.
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Everything works together beautifully.
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You know, human biology, everything.
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So when somebody, let's say, doesn't go to the mikveh anymore or is not like they're in a different stage of life,
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is that when we, you talked a little bit about the three different stages of life.
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And then there's 12 different like turnover times within your book.
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And one of the things that I found interesting was this idea of going from childhood to adulthood, adulthood to like elder adult.
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And I'm wondering if like menopause and things like that is that transition to elder adult where you're stopping with that mikvah and connecting in that way.
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Is that?
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It definitely can be one of the markers for sure.
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We have these three cycles.
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That's huge to understand.
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We have a child cycle, which doesn't necessarily mean when you're a child, you can be 29 and still be in your child cycles.
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It's really important to understand that.
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And then we hit our adult cycle.
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Each one is like a 30 year cycle and process.
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And when we hit our elder cycle, we went through all the struggles.
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We've built and manifested different things.
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Now we're ready to leave a legacy in the world.
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We're ready for the next level of our highest point of achievement.
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So there's different timing what we're here to do in the world.
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So that would fit very well with menopause or like this way it frees you up to really self-development and really focus on your legacy, what you're here to bring to the world in a way.
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When you talk about legacy, that's such an interesting way of framing it.
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Is there a idea of building a legacy and meaningful legacy, I guess, that we are predisposed to?
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That we have this like, yes?
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Absolutely.
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That's our top good and purpose in this world.
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That's what we're here to do.
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We're here to manifest the particular gifts and energies that were here for a purpose,
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to bring something incredible to the world, to build the world.
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That's how we're building on generations.
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We couldn't exist today without the generations of what everybody brought to the world.
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And we're here to continue this process.
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So it's interesting you talk about generations, okay?
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When it comes to dating and finding your person to spend time with, okay, we talk about energies
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Like, oh, I'm really attracted to this person's energy.
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Is that a real thing or is that baloney?
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Okay, so I love this.
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People talk about, with Aiden,
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talk about chemistry all the time.
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Yes, chemistry.
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Chemistry is astrological energy.
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I can show you the chemistry between two people.
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I can show you before they meet,
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I can tell you what's going to be going on between them.
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Now, I can never tell you who you should marry
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if this is the right person for you.
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The number one thing to know is,
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I don't care how great the charts are,
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If one or both haven't done their inner work, the growth work, I don't care.
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It's going to be miserable.
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You have to be a healthy human being in order to have a happy marriage.
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That's one.
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But yes, you can see different planets connecting to different.
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I'll give you an example.
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If one person's sun is connecting to the other person's moon, right, that means that their core self, their identity is shining their light on the other person's emotions.
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So that second person is going to feel very emotionally understood and feel emotionally really happy.
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And that's that area and not just that.
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And they're going to respond to the other person because they feel lit up.
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The same thing if somebody's son is connecting to the other person's mercury.
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So they're going to love their communication and thinking and they're going to approve of it.
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So you can see which areas are really connecting that's so powerful.
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Could you have, I know that you touch a little bit about like father-son relationships in the book, but could you have a negative relationship with somebody you are related to, born from?
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And is that also determined by our charts?
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So we have to understand what's happening.
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I did a chart reading for a mother that came to me.
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She said she has a four-year-old daughter, and she has a bunch of other children.
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She has incredible relationships with all her children.
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But this four-year-old girl is having such a hard time.
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Whenever she tries to help her, she recoils from her.
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She literally, she's going out of her mind.
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So I looked at that chart.
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Now, this mother is an incredible woman.
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She had four planets in Leo.
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Her sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars, all in Leo.
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So Leo is an incredibly fiery, courageous leader.
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That's an incredible, charismatic person.
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Really powerful person.
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And she also had one planet in her moon was in Cancer, which is much more sensitive and intuitive and compassionate.
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Cancer here, I can testify that that is all valid.
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And what was happening is, so this, her daughter had her moon in Pisces and she had like a, she had one of her struggling areas.
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She had a conflict in her chart in a very sensitive area.
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And these four fire energies of the mom was directly hitting that energy.
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and it was too overwhelming for the child.
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So it wasn't that the mother was doing something wrong,
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but stepping into that fire energy was too much.
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So I told her, don't use those four planets.
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Don't try to direct or help her.
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Just go to your moon in Cancer
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because that's connecting really well with her Pisces.
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Just be emotional, loving, accepting.
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Don't try to teach her anything about life.
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Just connect through her emotions
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and that's gonna be in alignment with her
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and she won't shrink.
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Right now, she can't handle that fire energy.
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But that can shift over time.
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Yes, yes.
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Once the daughter gets a little older, works through her sensitivity, that inner conflict,
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then she can connect with the fire.
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But at this stage, it was just too overwhelming for her.
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I love that because that actually gives you a real solid path forward and going, OK,
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this person's not connecting to my way of behaving.
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So do you think that, let's say, a person who they say astrologically are not meshing,
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could they have a good relationship?
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I know like online people are like, oh, this sign doesn't bode well with this sign.
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But like, what if you do?
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What if that's like, I just connect with this person.
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This is my person.
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So first of all, absolutely never say that, oh, if I'm a Leo, I can't date a Pisces.
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That's a terrible, terrible thing.
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That's not understanding astrology.
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that's looking at it at a very base level
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because we have complex different sides to ourselves.
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You might not connect with that particular area.
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So I did for a charring for a couple
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and the woman's son was in Leo
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and her husband's son was in Pisces
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and you would think that doesn't fit together.
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However, the woman's moon, her emotions was in Scorpio,
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was in a water sign and that was connecting with his Pisces
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and his moon was in Sagittarius
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and that connected with her Leo.
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So it doesn't have to be sun, sun.
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You can have other things so they're still very well connected.
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So absolutely.
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And you can get along even with people who have struggling energies.
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I'll give you an example.
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So I told you before about the sun-mercuries when you really like the other person's communication.
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But if you have a square with that person's mercury, it's going to be the opposite.
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You're really not going to vibe with their communication.
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My best friend, I have a double sun-square mercury with him.
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You're speaking Chinese.
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I just want to let you know that I'm nodding away if you're listening to this online instead of watching.
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I don't understand what that means.
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So speak to me like I'm a toddler.
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No problem.
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So Sun Mercury is really good communication together.
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You really enjoy the other person, how they think.
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You're in alignment with them.
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So that's one.
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If there's a square, it's more challenging.
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You really don't like how they think and their worldview and their approach.
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So me and my friend, we have complete different worldviews completely, but we've been lifelong friends.
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He's there for me when I need him.
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I'm there for him when he needs him.
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So, yes, you can still be best friends, even though I reckon, and not just that, because we have such different worldviews, I've learned from him.
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I had to be more open-minded, learn how to be accepting of different views, and he had to do the same.
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And we learned.
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So you can learn from people who you're challenged with.
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So it's not going to tell you not to have a relationship just because there's difficult aspects.
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But it's helpful to understand them and to allow the person to be who they are.
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And okay, so yes, we're different in this area.
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That's a huge part that's very helpful that can help couples understand why are we having conflicts here?
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Why are we struggling here?
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Here's where you can really connect well.
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Focus more here on this energy.
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Do things that bring out this side of you and that's going to be really working well together.
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Okay, that's so interesting.
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If you had to give a recommendation for somebody who is dating, okay, they know their birth
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chart, they know who they are, and they want to connect to somebody who highlights those
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emotions that they either struggle with or are very connected with, what would be the
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best advice you can give somebody to say, okay, these are your strengths?
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Let's say somebody is a, I don't know, my husband's a Capricorn.
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Let's say a Capricorn.
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What would, in an ideal world, what would be their partner or how they can connect to
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somebody and figure out if that's the right person for them using astrology?
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Okay.
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So the thing is, again, I can't just use the sun sign.
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So Capricorn is an ambitious, hardworking, responsible type of energy for sure.
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But there's so many other layers and levels going on.
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So I can't just advise you as a Capricorn who you should date.
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I have to see what I would want is the big complexes in your chart, the big stuff that's
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connecting.
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If you have Uranus connecting to your moon, Chiron, all the Chinese.
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I'm like, oh my gosh, okay.
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I'm going to talk Chinese again, okay?
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If you have all of these aspects, if you have very specific strong stuff, I want to see
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the two people that the woman's strong stuff and the man's strong stuff are interlocking.
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And that means that they really, so they might challenge each other, they might trigger each other, but they also can really help each other grow.
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That means it's not just, there's something serious there that they're here to connect with.
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And that's what I always want to see between two people.
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OK. Do you think that based on the work that you've done, that there is somebody out there who can benefit from a reading and then go against everything that they've just learned?
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Is that like very common because they're scared to step into their power?
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Absolutely.
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So my readings lately, I've been blown away.
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Forget the other person.
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It's literally life-changing because it's so validating to who you are.
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Because most of us, we're taught and told who we should be, what we're supposed to do,
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how we're supposed to act, how we're supposed to be.
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And there are parts of ourselves that don't feel happy in that.
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And you can see it clearly in the chart.
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And when you have the validation that God created you this way, it's so empowering for
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you to go and do your mission and to do your purpose and to challenge everybody and to
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step outside the resistance that you're going to get from your friends and family and co-workers
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and rabbi, whoever it is.
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Nothing can get between you and God.
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God created you a certain way with a certain mission.
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It might not look the way my father wants me to look or my wife.
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I'm sorry.
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I need to be true to who I am because your life is never going to take off unless you
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do that.
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That is a very powerful message.
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And I want to reiterate that just a little bit because I see a lot of people sort of be boxed in in our community, right?
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You have to follow all of these halakhahs and you have to do X, Y, and Z.
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And if you don't do this, then you're not going to find a good shidduch or you're not going to find a good job or you're not going to be this person.
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And we see a lot of that manifest in school, in the school system, where if you don't get straight A's or you don't, you're not on a certain learning track, you're not going to amount to something.
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And I think that that really breaks people down.
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And I almost wonder if there's a way for somebody to step into their power and recognize that, oh, I might not fit into a box.
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I might not be exactly how the school system wants me to be or how maybe I don't follow halacha exactly the way it's written and the Rebbeim want us to.
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But I am also a messenger of God.
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I am also connecting and doing what Hashem wants.
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Is there a conflict in that?
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Or is it that maybe we just don't understand our main goal in life?
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I think that there's like a lot of, what's the right way to put this without getting
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into trouble?
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I think there's a lot of rules and regulations and I think everybody picks and chooses based on what they feel comfortable with.
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And ultimately, right, we are not the judge and jury, Hashem is.
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And in order for us to understand who we are, sometimes we have to go through things and push past what is standard or what's accepted in order to know who we are.
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And I think that sometimes we might be judged based on that.
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Absolutely.
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You know, I think it's literally a crime what they're doing in schools.
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Everybody's taught you have to be a cookie cutter.
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You got to dress like everybody else.
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You have to look like everybody else.
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Your life path has to be like everybody else.
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And that's simply false.
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You know, the Vilna Gaon, it says in Mishle, Shlom HaMelech wrote this,
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raise a child according to his way.
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And the Vilna Goan,
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one of the greatest Talmudists
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of the last 50 years ago,
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he says,
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raise him according
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to his astrological chart.
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Know who your child is
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and allow him to develop
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the way Hashem created him,
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not the way the school system wants,
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not the way everybody else wants.
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You have to be,
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authenticity is a core part.
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And it's hard because,
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you know,
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we're taught this thing,
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we're put under tremendous pressure.
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That's where the Saturn returns.
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There's a few things
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that Hashem sends into our lives at different points.
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One of them is the Saturn return.
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Saturn takes 29 and a half years
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to make orbit around the sun.
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So that's when it's going to come back
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to its place in the birth chart.
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And that's, so usually when people between 28 and 30,
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that's when they start really stepping into their own.
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Okay, wait, I don't want to do what I was taught,
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what I was told to do to be a response person.
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If I'm a painter, I want to be an artist.
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I wanted you start stepping to your own.
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Another thing, if you have the transit of Uranus,
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it happens once every 22 years.
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If that comes into your life, that's a time of independence, rebellion, don't tell me what to do.
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I need to be authentic to myself.
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Hashem will give you that push, that energy to step into your own.
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You know, when I discovered astrology, I grew up in Borough Park.
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So being an astrologer would be a crazy thing to, you know.
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But Hashem sent that for me once in 22 years, the energy of Uranus to help me stand in my truth.
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And I said, wait, this is deeply connected to the Torah.
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It can help people's lives.
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I don't care if I'm going to have resistance.
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I'm going to speak my truth.
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and that's when you can do your gift.
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So in fact, you cannot step into your power
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if you're still in cookie cutter form.
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You have to become authentic.
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And that's what it says.
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It says in the Torah,
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Hashem told Avraham Avinu,
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Lech l'cha, my artz l'cha, my lad l'cha, my beis avicha,
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leave your father's land, leave your father's home
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and I will turn you into a great nation.
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It was an individuation process.
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We have to learn how to do this.
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The whole world believed in idol worship
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and Avraham Avinu got up and said,
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no, this old nonsense is only one God.
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Now he got pushed back.
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He got thrown into a fire.
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But him speaking his truth, that's what made him the father of the Jewish people.
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So each one of us has to discover our truth and step into our individuation.
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Now, we don't have to go and rebel and fight the past.
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We can be grateful and thankful for whatever our past was and step forward in a positive
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way into the role that we're here to do in this world.
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That's our mission and purpose in this world.
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Right.
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It's such an interesting thing to hear because, listen, I obviously, I don't cover my hair.
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I wear pants.
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I, I guess, rebel against what is typically associated with like religious Judaism,
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but I don't feel like I'm rebelling.
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I feel like honestly, I'm honoring what Hashem has given me
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through different avenues.
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And it might not be the way I dress and maybe it's something I could
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work on or things like that.
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But being a Torah true Jew is really honoring those gifts Hashem
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gave us.
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And I feel like I honor him through a podcast.
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I honor him through my practice.
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I honor
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him through raising a Jewish family.
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And I think that we tend to lose sight of what is important
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because we're so busy being the cookie cutter or following what we think is what we need to do
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instead of what we truly need to do.
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So I think that that's like a very interesting
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differentiation here because there is what we think and what we need.
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And I guess the charts
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help us understand a little better of what we need rather than what we're told.
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Absolutely.
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No question about it.
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Yeah.
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So one of the things that I want to end on is sort of these rapid fire questions,
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which I know you're going to feel like, oh no, there's so much that I need to like
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answer and give all this information.
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I'm the worst person for rapid fire questions.
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I'm sorry.
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Because I need to go in depth.
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I need,
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and everything's complex and I need to write, but I'll try.
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But you're going to try.
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Okay.
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So give me your first instinct.
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Is manifestation empowering or delusional?
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Completely empowering.
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Okay.
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I like when people say though, like it is a little delusional because guess what?
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Within a little bit of delusion is where we get like the push and the power to do something
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bigger than ourselves.
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It's only delusional because we believe people who say we can't do it or it's not possible.
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So I don't believe it's just don't believe the people and it's absolutely possible.
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Is luck real or is it something we create after the fact?
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Yeah, there's no such thing as luck.
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It's about manifesting about being who you are and bringing that to the world and God
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is guiding your mission.
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Can someone actually have bad energy or is that just projection?
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So that's just you have to work on the healing stuff.
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If you feel you have bad energy, that's because you haven't healed stuff and you might be in victim stage.
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There's all this stuff you can see in the charts.
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Absolutely heal yourself and absolutely you're ready to fly.
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There's no such thing.
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Nobody's ever cursed.
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Nobody's ever stuck.
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It's because we're not taking the next steps that we need to do.
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You can get out of it.
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Every human being, whatever they're stuck in, can, has the ability to get out of it.
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So how do you feel about like the Ayn Hara ladies or like all of those things?
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No comment.
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Okay.
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Is strong chemistry a green light or a warning sign?
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It's neither.
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Chemistry, that's not the ultimate connection with the person.
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You're feeling one particular planet or one energy, and that's amazing.
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Can you live with this person on a day-to-day level?
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What's life like?
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Take the time to get to know them and make sure all the other parts fit in as well.
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I love that.
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I love that because really the truth is there is no one way of living,
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And there's no one answer, but if you can take bits and pieces of the information given about who you are on a astrological level, you might be able to really create a life that has more meaning.
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And then you can start doing the work to really get to your purpose in life.
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And I really love that.
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So thank you so much for being here.
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I really, really, truly appreciate it.
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and you guys can find his book on Amazon
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and it's called Kosher Astrology.
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Jewish God's Celestial Wisdom.
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It's a 500 page book that covers everything
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that you need to know about astrology
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and everything.
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So it's available on Amazon.
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Also my website, kosherastro.com.