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One Piece, 768-770 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering One Piece episodes seven sixty eight through seven seventy
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  Speaker 1: the third one Riizoh of the Mist, the Ninja appears
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  Speaker 1: a red stone, a guide to the One Piece and
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  Speaker 1: the secret of the Land of Wano, the Kozuki family
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  Speaker 1: and the Pona Glyphs. In these episodes, we are taking
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  Speaker 1: a step closer to finding what will make Lufy the
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  Speaker 1: King of the Pirates. I still don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: believe this will ever happen, but we'll see. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: spoil Me. Welcome to the show. Everyone. I am Natasha, and.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Floria.
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  Speaker 1: Yay, Florian is back baby, all right, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me. Of course. All right, so you have to
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  Speaker 1: tell me what made you choose these episodes. I can
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  Speaker 1: suspect why, but every time I know why, but I
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  Speaker 1: want you to.
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  Speaker 2: You already like call it out. It is truly like
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  Speaker 2: maybe the biggest step that we ever have taken, expect
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  Speaker 2: getting to the Grand Line, maybe that was like the
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  Speaker 2: first huge step, but you get to the One Piece,
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  Speaker 2: this feels like more con and more concrete goal in
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  Speaker 2: a way, like it feels closer. It just fits closer. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I liked it a lot. And to me, this is
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  Speaker 2: even though, like you have still one hundred episodes in
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  Speaker 2: front of you and it's still going bad. And to
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  Speaker 2: me this feels like the beginning of the end in
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  Speaker 2: a weird way, like it is set what we have
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  Speaker 2: to do next. Basically.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was not expecting honestly, the whole like
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  Speaker 1: I want to find the one piece thing has never
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  Speaker 1: really felt that important to me because I just understand
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  Speaker 1: that this is going to be the just the driving
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  Speaker 1: force for a lot of other things to happen, and
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  Speaker 1: I had no problem with that, like that's fine. But
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  Speaker 1: finding out that there actually is like a series of
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  Speaker 1: things to collect, a series of mcguffins that we have
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  Speaker 1: got to go after, I like, granted, it's probably going
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  Speaker 1: to take a long time to get each of these
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  Speaker 1: four things, so you've still got plenty of room to
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  Speaker 1: continue doing what we've been doing, which is just the
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  Speaker 1: adventures along the way, you know, But I kind of
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  Speaker 1: expected for the for the progress on that front to
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  Speaker 1: take even longer, which I think is just because there
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  Speaker 1: are so many episodes.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Question, remind me what the name of the island is?
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  Speaker 1: That the one piece is on because they say it
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  Speaker 1: a few times, but I didn't have the subtitles on
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  Speaker 1: and so I couldn't see how it was spelled. And
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  Speaker 1: every time somebody says it, I feel like I'm mishearing it.
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  Speaker 2: Rathtel tell, Yeah, excell rath Tel. So it reminds me
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  Speaker 2: of raft like it's called on the water, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But when did we find out that that was the
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  Speaker 1: name of the island, because I remember that we found
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  Speaker 1: this out, but I don't recall when it.
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  Speaker 2: Was mm hmm. I think it was actually in the
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  Speaker 2: beginning when we went into the grand line, there was
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  Speaker 2: Laboom the whale, and there was like this old man
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  Speaker 2: with him, like Crocus is his name, and he had
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  Speaker 2: like a flower head kind of thing going on. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you Ray.
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  Speaker 1: I remember him. Yeah, he lived inside Lagoon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically he was the one who told them that
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  Speaker 2: the last island is Raftel and the gold Watcher and
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  Speaker 2: was the one who went there. That's the first time
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  Speaker 2: that we hear about it. Maybe later with Raleigh as well,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because like I had, there's a new intro
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  Speaker 1: now with the change in the arc, where our guys
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  Speaker 1: telling us like the island raftel, and he says it
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  Speaker 1: in such a way that it feels like you guys
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  Speaker 1: know all about this already, right, And it's surprising. It
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  Speaker 1: always it's always weird to me with this show. How
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it will over explain a thing that I very
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  Speaker 1: clearly remember and you don't have to do this, And
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  Speaker 1: then there are going to be times where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you should probably expound on that a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: because I don't even remember this happening at all. And
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  Speaker 1: this was one of the times where I was like
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  Speaker 1: I could have stood for you to go a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more in detail here on this because yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't remember anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no completely. I feel like I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why they don't include it more. But maybe they expected
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  Speaker 2: to know it because it has been like we streamed,
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  Speaker 2: but we streamed. They just expected to reread it the story. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but it's they.
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  Speaker 1: Always explain everything anyway, even though they know everybody rewatches
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  Speaker 1: it so many times or reread you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just weird. How there then there are times where
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, here is when I could excuse you
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  Speaker 1: kind of having a whole episode dedicated to reminding us
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  Speaker 1: this and you didn't do it, which just it always
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  Speaker 1: surprises me. So okay, let's start from the beginning. The
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  Speaker 1: third one. I don't know why, but it's just been
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  Speaker 1: called the third one. It's very disrespectful, you know. It
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  Speaker 1: goes on to say like rise of the miss But
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  Speaker 1: at first it's just like, yeah, you know, we got
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  Speaker 1: a collection of samuraiz here, this is the third one.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever in trusting was kind of special and now he's like, eh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very much.
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  Speaker 2: So right, So.
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  Speaker 1: Is uh not what anybody was expecting? Honestly, no, he
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  Speaker 1: was pretty much what I was expecting because like the
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  Speaker 1: other samurai are such weirdos contraroau. That man is a freak.
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  Speaker 1: That man is a real strange guy, like all most
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  Speaker 1: feeling like a drag queen in his overall look you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so yeah, I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of figure that, like this we're meeting in Ninja, and
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  Speaker 1: probably this Ninja is going.
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  Speaker 3: To be.
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  Speaker 1: Just as much as are of a freak. Like now,
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  Speaker 1: he the way in which he was a freak was different,
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what to expect on that front.
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  Speaker 1: But when we see like the imagination of what everybody
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  Speaker 1: is preparing for I. I was watching it for a
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  Speaker 1: moment thinking that was him, and I was genuinely surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, he just looks like a ninja.
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  Speaker 1: Oh does he really this is I didn't expect him
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  Speaker 1: to just be this guy. And then it smash cuts
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  Speaker 1: to what he really looks like, and I was like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: now we're back unfamiliar. Yes see, Okay, that's this is
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  Speaker 1: what I was expecting.
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  Speaker 2: This is my one piece. Yeah, okay. I I already
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  Speaker 2: kind of could say maybe about the whole Ninja thing,
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  Speaker 2: like how many tropes of ninjas do you know? Do
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  Speaker 2: you know any?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 1: They recite some here that I knew meditate under a waterfall,
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  Speaker 1: disappear into the shadows, or some something else. I think
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  Speaker 1: they mentioned, like balancing on something. The one thing I
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  Speaker 1: didn't ever hear of was saying, Ni ni, I, what
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  Speaker 1: is this?
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  Speaker 3: Is this like real?
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  Speaker 1: Or is this the show?
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  Speaker 2: I now? I kind of I feel like it's more
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  Speaker 2: like a children thing, Like not they really said it,
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  Speaker 2: but it kind of become a trope in outer anime,
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  Speaker 2: and like just illustrations that that's what ninja's do. So
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  Speaker 2: that's why, like they believe it.
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  Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Kids nowadays also believe.
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  Speaker 1: It's so like I just never heard that before. And
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  Speaker 1: they go so hard on this a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: with him, you know, getting loofy basically is like riding
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  Speaker 1: on his shoulders and just like smacking him and telling him,
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  Speaker 1: like do another thing, and they keep saying me me,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, all I can think about was
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  Speaker 1: Monte Python and the Holy Grail. We are the knights
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  Speaker 1: who say me yeah, And so I kind of was like,
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  Speaker 1: is that the joke?
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  Speaker 2: Is it? Like?
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  Speaker 1: Is he referencing that? But otherwise yeah, I have never
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  Speaker 1: heard of this. What were your knowledge of ninja stereotypes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, like one Piece is now you
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  Speaker 2: get some animeal or one Piece was or is still
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  Speaker 2: considered one of the so called Big three. The Big
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  Speaker 2: three were like in the early two thousands, like the
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  Speaker 2: biggest selling mangas, and one of them was One Piece,
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  Speaker 2: who had Pirates. Then you had Bleach, which had Samurai
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  Speaker 2: and what's kind of more edgy and darker I've heard, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and the third one is Naruto and that one has
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  Speaker 2: ninjas in there, like it's all about ninjas and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these things that come up in this episode
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  Speaker 2: or like with this character I know kind of from Naruto.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of like, I'm not sure if Oda
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  Speaker 2: is referencing Naruto or Ninjas. I feel like there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of references to like this other big manga
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  Speaker 2: and he's kind of like, you know, winking over there
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  Speaker 2: to the other off or like a.
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  Speaker 1: Is Naruto related to Dragon Ball?
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  Speaker 2: Separate thing?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It is a separate thing?
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  Speaker 1: Is that the one? Because the one thing that happened
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  Speaker 1: in this where I pointed the screen like Leonardo DiCaprio was,
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  Speaker 1: he makes copies of himself and Lufy ketches one and
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  Speaker 1: it turns into a log. And I have not seen this,
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  Speaker 1: but my husband was telling me about the log thing.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he was talking about it in Dragon
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  Speaker 1: Ball Z context. Does that happen in dragon Ball Z
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  Speaker 1: as well? This thing where it's like, oh, you think
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  Speaker 1: this is a person, but it's really a log.
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  Speaker 2: It could be. I honestly, I my knowledge of Dragon
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  Speaker 2: Ball Z is smaller because it has been longer for
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  Speaker 2: me since I watched that. Okay, so but it could
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  Speaker 2: be in there as well. I would not put past
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  Speaker 2: it to be there.
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  Speaker 1: I Uh, yeah, I just really he was explaining this
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  Speaker 1: to me. It was not like I was not watching
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  Speaker 1: the show or anything. I think that I meant something
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  Speaker 1: that was happening in one piece and this crazy power
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  Speaker 1: that somebody had. And he started telling me about an
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  Speaker 1: infuriating thing where a person could make a log look
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  Speaker 1: like them and that there was some big storyline that
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  Speaker 1: got dragged out forever and then it basically resolves by
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  Speaker 1: somebody turning out to have been a log the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: and how it was just one of the biggest like
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  Speaker 1: ripoff kind of plot lines that he had ever encountered,
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  Speaker 1: and how he's still mad about it. So that embedded
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  Speaker 1: itself into my mind about the log thing, and so
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  Speaker 1: when it happened here, yeah, I was definitely very much like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's the thing. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be telling him about it later that I finally encountered that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is uh the We're getting ahead of
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  Speaker 1: ourselves a little bit here, But yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: when we start this episode, the very first thing that
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  Speaker 1: we see is the pirate Jack finding out that he
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  Speaker 1: has been declared dead in the newspapers and getting really
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  Speaker 1: mad about it, and he actually says this is bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Has how they use the word shit before? I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is the first time.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure again, I feel like you have been astounded
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  Speaker 2: by the language before. I remember that, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember each What words were you used to say.
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  Speaker 1: When when I very first started, when somebody was called
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  Speaker 1: a bastard, I was like, oh, oh, okay, and then
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  Speaker 1: somebody says son of a bitch and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not shocking language in and of itself, but
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  Speaker 1: I was expecting this to be very much like super
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  Speaker 1: PG kid friendly, you know, and so for there to
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  Speaker 1: be any salts to the language at all was shocking.
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  Speaker 1: But there has never been just a swear before. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could call bitch a swear. I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: I think me as a teacher, yes, that would be
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  Speaker 2: a swear in my classroom. You have to be pretty
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  Speaker 2: strict about it, even though I use it canso baby.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way. So yeah, he is really mad about this,
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  Speaker 1: and UH is just basically demanding of his men. I
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  Speaker 1: look alive, don't I? And later on there is a
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  Speaker 1: whole encounter between these ships his He has I think
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  Speaker 1: five ships altogether plus the uh he winds up against
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  Speaker 1: some Marines, and it was that counter is really confusing
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  Speaker 1: to me because it looks like initially everybody is in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of like a storm while they're firing on
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  Speaker 1: each other, and then all of a sudden, the other
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  Speaker 1: ship is gone and the storm is gone. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, did I misinterpret what I was watching or
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  Speaker 1: is that actually what happened? And I'm supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: puzzled by it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is a flashback. Like basically, he the
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  Speaker 2: timeline goes as follows. He leaves, so no do Flamingo
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  Speaker 2: gets captured. He hears of it and then leaves. So
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  Speaker 2: meanwhile straw heads come to sew everything happens. What happens then?
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  Speaker 2: Right then we see this fight scene of him against
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  Speaker 2: the Marines. And now this very first scene of the
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  Speaker 2: first episode is his way back or like he's way
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  Speaker 2: on the scene and he has a traumatic flashback to
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, like the night before or like when
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  Speaker 2: he faced off against him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was not getting that that was a flashback.
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  Speaker 1: The way that was edited was different than I feel
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  Speaker 1: like they usually do with a flashback. Okay, that makes.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, we watch him yeah, we don't see a
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  Speaker 2: lot of do you expect him to pop up back
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  Speaker 2: up or like.
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  Speaker 1: I expect him to But I've got to say I
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  Speaker 1: don't find him that interesting. So not really that excited
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  Speaker 1: about seeing him again. Like him turning into a mammoth
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  Speaker 1: is dope, but it's almost like the the he's not
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  Speaker 1: You're not dextrous. When you're a mammoth, you just can
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  Speaker 1: create wholesale destruction in the way that he's like a
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  Speaker 1: wrecking ball, you know. But it's not really like super
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  Speaker 1: exciting to watch. And his personality is just like very basic, angry,
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  Speaker 1: egotistical bad man. So yeah, I think we'll probably see
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  Speaker 1: him again, but I don't care if we do. That's
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  Speaker 1: where I stand with him.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely he's a bastard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. This is this guy is definitely
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  Speaker 1: a bastard. So this is when we go back to
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  Speaker 1: so and we have the moment where everybody is reacting
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that our friends the Samurai are actually
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  Speaker 1: you know, buddies with the Minx and that there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: to worry about. And it very quickly, like at first
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  Speaker 1: it's really quickly like everybody's friends here, we're all on
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  Speaker 1: the same side, and we were all fighting to defend
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  Speaker 1: your friend. And then Dogstorm and cat Viper turn on
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  Speaker 1: each other just because Dogstorm is like he was talking
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  Speaker 1: to me, not you, and that's all it takes. And
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  Speaker 1: these two are already preparing to beat the shit out
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  Speaker 1: of each other. You both are missing limbs. Can you stop? Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like everybody just ate a breath.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you had, like pets get home from
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  Speaker 2: the vet and you're like, you need to be still,
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  Speaker 2: and they never are.
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  Speaker 1: I'm dealing with that right now. Pippen has a broken
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  Speaker 1: toe and he just wants to fight with his sister
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  Speaker 1: and roll around on the floor with her, and he
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  Speaker 1: can't do that right now, and it is, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: really hard these two. So this is when, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: Kenamon shows his tattoo, which is the same tattoo that
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the Kazuki clan has. We've seen it
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  Speaker 1: upon our kings and Rhizo as well, and I cannot
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  Speaker 1: help but laugh. It's a very like we zero in
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  Speaker 1: on this tattoo and then it sort of fades out
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  Speaker 1: to his face on the other side, and he looks
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  Speaker 1: so pissed at having to show this, and I was
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  Speaker 1: just like nobody made you. It's fine. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: everybody pretty much believed you. But okay, Like he just
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  Speaker 1: looks really angry throughout this.
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  Speaker 3: And the.
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  Speaker 1: Information that we find out eventually here because Dogstorm and
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  Speaker 1: cat Viper are fighting like this, Momo gets up and
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  Speaker 1: he yells at both of them to knock it off,
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  Speaker 1: because what do you think my father would say if
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  Speaker 1: he could see the two of you behaving like this?
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  Speaker 1: And I had the exact reaction that I think usapas
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, but your dad's right there, And it
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  Speaker 1: turns out that's not as dead Kennebu lied, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: why did you lie? You didn't need to. We could
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  Speaker 1: have just rescued this little boy. It's fine, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to go do all that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wasn't sure if you can trust him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, he's he's kind of like the he's
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  Speaker 2: not the grins. As it turns out, he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the I mean, by the way they use I
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  Speaker 2: think daimyo and I don't like those are all fudi
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  Speaker 2: still japan like old Japanese terms, or like feudalist feudalists. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like from the old like I don't know. We maybe
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  Speaker 2: would have like a count or something and they would
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: have made things like that. So but basically what translated
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  Speaker 2: what they're saying, he his dad was the prince. So
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  Speaker 2: that's like the relation that's going on there, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he says they say something at one point
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  Speaker 1: about like the king is under him, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: but he's just a lord. And then I realized, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how this structure works. I would
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: think that a king would be above a lord because
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  Speaker 1: of the way it works in like Europe, but that's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily how it goes here, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean it, it is a little bit more complicated than
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  Speaker 2: I just summed it up, so I'm not an expert,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: but just to get a reference on what hierarchy they're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: in or he is basically.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I really like enjoy this twist because he's,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, nothing against you, momonosque momenosk is How am
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I saying that?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: He's fine as a character, but I haven't really liked
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: him that much because one, he hasn't done all that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: much except like get cranky about stuff, and then when
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he's not doing that, he's burying his face in Nami's boobs,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: but she does quite a bit in this section also,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: so frankly, I could take her leave this kid, but
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I like that there's like an additional plot point of interest,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: making him a bit more important because he needed something, you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in general, the summarize needed something because
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like we helped you and basically like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: all of so, what's kind of what are you really
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: doing here? Of course they kinemon safe conjurer, but it
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: is still kind of like what are you doing here? Basically? Yeah, definitely,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and now we finally get to the meat and potatoes.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, so this uh this reveal. It
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: takes a little while, as things so often do in this,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but it results in maybe my favorite ongoing feud that
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get now, which is that Loofy cannot take
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: this little kid throwing his weight around and just keeps
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: getting pissed at him telling people what to do, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: this little kid yelling at Louviy to like bow down
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: before him, And I love this. I love this. This
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: is such a weird look. Loofy gets mad at so
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: few things, you know, Yeah, nothing tends to phase him.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So when we find something that really gets under his
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: skin like this, I just think it's very fun. He's
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: so angry and he's so like what's the word I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: want here? He just feels bitter in a way that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I don't sense from him almost ever. And since I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: didn't really like this kid that much, it's sort of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: giving like a little outlet for me as a viewer
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, kick is ass loofy good, thank you,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: this little brat, you know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I see, how do you feel about this? I am?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You know, up to this point, as I said before,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: to me, there were kind of like not nothing characters.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We had way worse in the past, but it was
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: just not that invested yet. This made me inval like
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: when this arose, I was like, there it is, you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: like it was kind of like waiting for it. Yea
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and and Momlezuke in particular, I first like it did
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: not quite like him because of the whole boop swing
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: which happens here. But Nami is kind of like, so
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you're a prince you yeah, nown.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Me feels like she's at least got a little bit
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: more agency and understanding of it, and she's like using it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So I feel different about it this time.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, he's kind of a little rascaled.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But then again, he is a kid, you know, so
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: and when I compare him to outer kids in auto shows,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, Okay, we could have way worse.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Look, this is it's an unfair metric though, to just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: be like in comparison to other kid characters, I mean,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you're not wrong, but also, kid characters don't have to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: suck everybody, you know, Like, we don't have to live
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: like this, but we just sort of phone it in.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It seems like it's weird because like what often happens
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: not necessarily here, but like in general, and I'll say
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it mostly I would say that this is true in television.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: It happens in books some, but I don't find it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: quite as frustrating in books because you aren't relying on
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: some little child to act, So you can make your
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: kid in your book cuter much more easily then you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: can make an actor on screen charm you, you know.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: But I feel like what's so weird is that oftentimes
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: when they add a kid into the situation, they're trying
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to up the stakes and they're trying to make it
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: like Oh, well, now there's a child that might get hurt,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and don't you care more because they're an innocent And
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, no, I already cared because there were people
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: here that I liked, and you've thrown in a factor
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that's actively annoying actually, and a part of me kind
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of wants him to die just so that I don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: have to deal with him anymore because I don't like him.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So it winds up sort of backfiring sometimes where they're like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be rooting for them to save that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: little boy, and I'm like, fuck that kid whatever. He's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: been dragging this whole series down ever since you brought
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: him in, Like, let's take care of him. It's fine.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not saying.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: That but Walking Dead, but maybe I'm just speculating me.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Let's move on.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: For those who aren't watching this in real time, I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: got a very called out expression on my face because
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Walking Dead was literally what I was thinking of.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But we won't. We won't talk.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: About that now, yes, but but good catch there, Florian.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: You were not wrong, Thank you, Thank you. The cat
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: at the dog they make up basically, or like they
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: at least agree to stop fighting. That's what we can.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They're basically just like shaved into it, like, ah, he's right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: his dad would be.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So pissed, And I find it like really cute. But
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: also this I like. I like Cat Viper a lot,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: and dog Storm I also like him, but Cat Viper
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: is just awesome. But this, when I saw, like how
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the townspeople are so happy, I'm just like, you two
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: are assholes, Like, yeah, you see how everybody is happy
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: about this? You could have done these years ago. I mean,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: it's it's real. It's a great moment, but it's bitter
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: in a way, like we're like, hmm, that's very.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't really think of it that way. But you're right,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: like they've been dealing with this for what how long?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Years and years right at this point.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know the exact timeline,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but years.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, you're right. They're like you, guys,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: all you had to do was be yelled at by
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the right person and you just set all of this aside.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's I guess that is how it can
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: be sometimes, where if the right person says it to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you and they phrase it the right way, you can
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: suddenly realize what a dick you're being in a way
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that nobody else was quite able to get through to you.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So I suppose it's just hard for me because, like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I think, part of the disconnect here is what almost
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: dad means to them, and I don't fully understand that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: that relationship yet, you know, I don't really get like
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: totally what's happening here yet. So it definitely was sort
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of like, is it supposed to be just that a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: little kid has pointed out that you're being childish and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that's a bridge too far, which would have been fine,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: but what it winds up being, I feel like invoking
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: his father's memory I guess makes more sense. But yeah,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it's just like you've made everybody miserable with your fucking
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: attitudes this entire time and splitting things up the way
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that you have, and it didn't have to be this way,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and you could have just shut the fuck up and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: sucked it up, Like wow, way to waste everyone's time. Thanks.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I realized rewatching it yesterday. I was
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, yeah, I also have to mention
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that Almo's face when he yells at them is really funny.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: He gets this like this, the frown is so extreme,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and he's got that thing that they do when somebody's
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: really mad where it's just a shadow where their eyes
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: should be and you can't even see the whites of
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: their eyes or anything. And yeah, so this is when
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we get the reveal that he is the Air and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: everybody is very surprised. Nami is interested in how much
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: money he may have access to, and and let's see
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: what happens after this, because like eventually they make up,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and is that like almost the end of the episode,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we just have them then going to the tree in
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the center of everything, is it? No, they're going. They
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: then encounter Riso, who is chained up because they didn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: want him to go out there and try and face
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the pirates who were searching for him.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, because they wanted to keep him hidden,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: but he of course wouldn't, like as we find out
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: last episode, they're like great friends and he's like, no,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: when you're fighting, I want to fight, and they're like no, no, no, no,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Like basically they had to do what they sometimes need
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: to do with Loofy or should do with Louvie and
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: be like hmm, no fighting, right, yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like maybe our friends should like get some
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: sa prism stone handcuffs just to have around to manage him,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: because just trying to be like, hey, loofy, stay here,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: don't do you know, it's obviously not working. Kids. If
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you really want to keep him in place, you're gonna
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: have to take some drastic measures. So yeah, and yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: we sorry.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, you know, I mean, did you did you
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: clock that it was rap or did you clock in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: general that this was a pond lip? And did you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: clock that it was red pondly?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Not at all? Not even a little bit. Like eventually,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: when it's revealed, I was confused and I was like, wait,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: they chained him to that, that's what it was. It
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was just sort of a like, I'm not mad at it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: It's very practical to do that, you know, but I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: definitely was sort of these have been treated with such
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: reference to just behave like it's just a pillar in
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a building. Felt very odd to me.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: It's fair, and.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It's it's also like a very striking background for him,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: because it's like, I the Ponic glyphs are so few
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: and far between, and I've never seen The whole point
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: is we've never seen a red one. So I was
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: just taking it as like a decorative wall in this
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: certain area or something, you know what I mean, I wasn't.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think that in a vacuum, if it's a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: totally different color, that I would ever think it was
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: a ponent glyph, the like the same kind of thing,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, it's uh, it was definitely a surprise.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: He's so weird looking, guys, it's very funny. So he's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: got I don't even know what to you, guys, know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I tend to like try and describe. I don't even know.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: He's got sort of six fingers of hair that sticks
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: stick out from his head. I don't they don't even
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: look like dreadlocks like that's not I think they're meant
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to be. But they don't sit like dreadlocks would sit.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He's got a crescent moon in his forehead that I
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's like part of a costume or
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: if that's just supposed to be part of his body.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: His sleeves flare out above his shoulders.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Was that I think it's a scar like the moon thing,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm quite certain about it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It's yellow.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, he can maybe he painted it or put
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: some tatoo artists to work. I don't know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: That.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I will not accept that if that's it, And everybody,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I want you to know right now, if that turns
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: out to be what it is, No, I don't think
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: so that's that. Better be jewelry or I don't know what,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: but oh my god, it better not be Florian. I'm
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: so mad right now. He's got these like kind of
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: puffy purple trim that like comes out up above his
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: shoulders and then also down his front. He is, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: all of that. Plus he's got the really big, square,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: extreme jawline plus extremely sticky out cheekbones that remind me
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of what's his name, the the drag queen. Oh my god,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: thank you. But yeah, he looks like there's his body
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is out of proportion to his head in a way
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen too often in this show. We do
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: have characters occasionally that this will happen, but it's Ivankov
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: is the one that it's the most extreme. For sure.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like and I think I would put him
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in maybe second place because his head is almost the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: size of his torso it's certainly not like he resembles
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the other the I keep saying the other two because
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they call this the third one. But he's not a samurai.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He's a ninja, right, so he's not really the third one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm it is yeah, no, no, he's a ninja.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: But sometimes they do refer like if they refer to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: them as a group, then there are the Samurais, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: so he gets kind of like crusted into them because
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: they're the Samurais and the ninja. They're just like the Samurais.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was doing too, and I couldn't
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: remember if like, is that acceptable or not? Okay, Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: it's just such a weird Uh. The whole look of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: him is such a departure, and like, you know, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: get what we're doing thematically with condureau he looks crazy,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: but I get that there's like a theme there, but uh,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this guy, I don't see a theme. There's nothing that
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm detecting. Really. That's like tying it all together because
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: he's also got like an orange and blue polka dot thing,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and then there's like an undershirt sort of part that
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: almost looks like fish scales. So I have no idea
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: what the inspiration for this outfit is.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I think just Oda had like a really good trip.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: And.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Honestly, that feels like so much of this series Oda
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: was tripping, or Oda had a bad dream, or you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, yeah, so he is delighted
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to see them. They release him, and we have this
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: moment where Robin is clocking that this is a ponent glyph.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But first what we need to do is deal with
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: how much everybody wants to see him do Ninja stuff.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and every boy loves Ninja's.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is true, right.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I would Yeah, I mean, I would subscribe to that
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: because I feel like it has interesting in love. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: was thinking, like I was a gay kid. I'm still
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a gay kid, hi in my heart, I mean, And yeah, no,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Ninja's I feel like he can be enjoyed. You know,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like you have like this stealthy, sleek kind of mm
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: hmm you know which, and you also have like the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: killing power for the streets, right right right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have the macho aspects.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, if you like it works, it works
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: for a lot of boys, I would say.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: So.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I uh, personally, as a kid, was never super into Ninja's,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: but I think it was just the type of content
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: that I consumed. I think that if I had been
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: somebody that was introduced to enough stuff when I was younger,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that would have caught my fancy. And I'm trying to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: think if there was anything like sort of superhero ish
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: or superpower ish or just you know, and I can't
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: think of anything like that, and I'm sure I'm missing something,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: but yeah, no, Ninjas just really on my radar too much.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I the only you know what, the one exception being
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I was pretty into the
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I was a big fan of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: whichever one is the orange one, who's funny? Who I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: think is Michelangelo, but I can't remember if I'm right
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about that, but he is. I'm always like a sucker
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: for the class clown and he's the funny one. So
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I was always just like, what's up.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're great, but I cannot tell you which
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: one is which I know, yeah, after artists, but after that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I remember that the red one is Raphael. I'm pretty
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: sure the blue one is Donna Tello. Maybe they were'te
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: one well, I don't remember anyway, does not matter. Sorry, everybody, yeah,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and he tries to be like, this isn't a party trick.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to perform for you. And it is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: so funny how easy it is to peer pressure him,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: because everybody comes up with it like a thing that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they want to see from him. Specifically, even Law and
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Zorro get in on this moment where they're just like, well,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: can you do this thing? I didn't expect them to
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: be participating at all, and I enjoyed that they were
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: all included when we have the slow pan to everybody's
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: very disappointed faces because they also apparently like got their
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: hopes up about it too.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: That is the funniest shit to me, Like sometimes when
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it's just when sorrow is included in a joke like this,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it's always so funny sometimes even growing like you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: even where I occasion robbing will be included and then
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I will lose my shit. I will Yeah, No, it
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: is I find it funny, like he does us all
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: his tricks, or like even in the beginning he says
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: something like invisible to the ladies and invincible in battle,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: and that line got me hollering, I don't know.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't even catch that. That is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: so that is wild invisible to the ladies. Yes, wow,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: how dude, damn? Oh yeah, I think that's because like
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: he says something about how his physique doesn't do him
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: any favors or something. Okay, yeah, that I'm remembering this now.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And yeah, so, like he starts off with the whole like,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: don't you thrust your ninja stereotypes on me? And then
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he sees how the reft they all are at the
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: fact that he is just refusing to participate in this,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and finally it's like, okay, fine, and he does a
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. He does like a smoke bomb, disappear
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and reappear, he multiplies himself using logs. I'm sure there's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: like a couple other things on missing those are the
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: two that really stand out to me.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does a lot. He puts on the show, and.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Later on USAP makes fun of him for that and
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he's mad about it, but like he's right though, dude,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it's fine.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: So after this is when we start to get a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: little bit more into the Pony glyph and what it means,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and we get the drop of the major bombshell at
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the end of the second episode that this will tell
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: you how to get to the island, and he doesn't
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: explain right away that this is one of four. He
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: tells them that first and then starts to explain there's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: four more, and of course Lufy assumes this means that
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: there's four islands and therefore four to one pieces.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Of courts.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Lffy tune in, baby, where are you? Where'd you go?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: That was he just heard one piece and was out
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: of the immagination land. Yah know, I find this like really,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Pirates, it is x Marx the spot,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: and I just love it that we have it like
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: so traditional but at the same time so kind of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: like interesting. Still in my opinion, I liked it. I
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: liked it a lot.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm look, I am always. I know that mcguffin's
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: get made fun of a lot, and like rightfully, so
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: they can definitely be something that is leaned on a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: little bit too much. I won't talk about Rise of
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Skywalker again, but you guys know that's an example of like,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you have an entire universe that you could have played
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: with well loved characters, and you decided to go with
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a mcguffin story for this, really, like you could have
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: done anything that's different. This is a long running series
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: where we know we're not heading straight for the thing.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: We know that it's going to be a process, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that's the point of it, you know. So it feels
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: very different here. And I am a sucker for this
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, especially when there's like puzzles that you
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: need to solve, or you know, when you get somewhere
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: that you thought it was going to be and it
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: turns out somebody else got it first and then you
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: have to find out where they went with it. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: love that kind of thing. I don't think that's necessarily
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: going to be an issue because, as it's pointed out later,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: these bitches are very big, so it's not like you
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: could just pick it up and put it in your pocket.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: They the advice that they are given is to do
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a rubbing of the the side of the pony glyph
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: so that they can get a copy of it, which
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: eventually us up comes up with a plan of just
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: like we'll sneak in there and get the rubbing and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: then we don't have to deal with anybody, And Lufy
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: is so bummed out at this idea. It is very funny.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that a lot.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is agreed.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: The height of those two characters against blondy Eachella. Of course.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: This, yeah, this is like the the whole vibe of
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: us up wanting to do. I talked about this in
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the episode I recorded before this, I recorded on Dungeon
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Crawler Carl. Have you read any of that, Florian.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: No, But I am intrigued by the title alone, honestly.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dungeon Crawler Carl is the premise is our world
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: is flattened and turned into a reality TV show for aliens,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: and we are all forced to play through these dungeons
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: as if we were in a video game. And but
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it's like real stakes, it's real life, you know. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the the say that I was bringing up in that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: is how I have often when I'm playing video games,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I've wanted to play the stealth character, but I don't.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I have such anxiety that it's almost better for me
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to play the tank characters, even though I don't like combat.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: It bothers me in games sometimes because I get so
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: freaked out. At least I can go in, I can
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: fucking smash my buttons and then like power through it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Whereas stealth it's like this, it's very anxious. It's slow.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: There's like this agonizing sort of sense to it, you know.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: So a part of me understood where usup was coming from,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and another part of me was like, us up, I
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: feel like you are going to have so many opportunities
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to have a complete meltdown if we do it your way,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Because anybody takes a step in the wrong direction, or
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: anything that you thought was gonna happen a certain way
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen that way. You were going to lose your shit, dude,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: because he loses it instantly over anything. Just let Loofy
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: punch his way through to the Pono glyph. Just let
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: him go, let him do it, you know.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send him in with a couple other days. Yeah right,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: well yeah yeah, But but it was still I mean,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: as we learn, like what inspired this whole talk is therefore,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: and one of them is with Kaido and the other
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: one is with Big momm and so they talk about this, Okay,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: we want to get to Sanji, and we also now
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: have this other goal of getting to this to this
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: pondic glyph, and yeah, that's why it is like, let's
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: sneak in. But of course he is not a fan
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of that. It is to me, I find it okay,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: just mathematically speaking, because I like math. Hello, yeah, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: love how like you got defensive immediately.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know that's weird. I don't want to hear.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: It, I know, but actually it is true. When you
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: have a map and you only have three points, you
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: need all four points to make a cross like like
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: two because depending on where the fourth point is, it
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: is possible. And I had once to do like the
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: mathematical what's it called like thing related to that. So
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: that's why I know that, and I know I'm I
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: want to hear like your theory. Do you think like
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the middle of this cross? Do you have an idea
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: where that could land? Oh god, it just the end
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of at the end of the Grand line. Will it
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: be an island that we have been to? Will it
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: be something completely new?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: It never even occurred to me at someplace that we've
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: been already. If it is, I'll be kind of mad
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: about it. I want it to be a new place.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I want it to be Like you know, I would
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: sort of prefer that it not be the end of
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the Grand Line, because it feels so if it's just
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: about getting to the end and it's at the end
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: of the you know, it feels very like simplistic. I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I would kind of like, and it
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't work because this doesn't make sense with like the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: way that these pony glyphs are supposed to function, but
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the fact that, like we have an island that's literally
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: an elephant walking around. I wouldn't be mad if the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: One Piece were on an island that moves around, you know,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I think that would be kind of fun. But I
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like, Okay, so here's what I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: would want if I were gonna get exactly. What I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: would like is for the One Piece to be on
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: an island we've never been to before that is not
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: at just at the end of the grand line. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: like out there in the mix, and it's a whole
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: thing to get there. And I would like for that
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: island to be an Indiana Jones style setup of like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: traps and obstacle course style, like you know what I'm saying.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And I would wit for there to be an obstacle
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that specifically speaks to the skill set of each of
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: our friends for them to work their way through.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I love that. That sounds awesome.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm trying to think because like Oosoup's whole thing
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: is being the sniper king. So yeah, we can have
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: something where you have to shoot something from afar and
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: it triggers something. Obviously, Zoral will just fight with a blade.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: We don't have Sanji right now. I hope we get
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: him back and then he can kick something, not me.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe we need water to activate something, and so she
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: has to summon you know, the clouds or I don't know. Uh,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: it has to be harder than I'm making it sound.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It doesn't like you know.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: But we get the base idea, you know. I mean
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: robbing of course will be the guide and like reading
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the ruins and be like, oh hey we have to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: go left now right, and you know she can do that.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Frankie can maybe build something for us, like a bridge,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I don't yeah, music puzzle for Brooke, like we can
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: get it all in there.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what we would do with Chopper,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: because I love my baby, but he doesn't have the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: best skill set for like something like this.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like it could be. I mean, if
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: we go full fantasy, it could be like mixing a
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: potion or something, you know.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, I like that idea, or.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Like, there's like this weird plant that poisons people and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: he figures out how to get through them without them dying,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: basically something something like that.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that idea. There's or maybe there's like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: you know, these poisoned darts, but I figured out the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: antidote so the poison won't harm you, and we can
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: walk through and get hit and it doesn't matter. It's
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: so funny because you went to this idea and the
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: first idea that I had in my head was that
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: game operation where you have to take the bones out
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: of the patient without touching the sides.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, they would also be great. I would also
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: be down for that. It would be super hard than Highlights.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Or maybe that doesn't exactly take medical skill, but perhaps
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it could be reassembling a skeleton and he, you know,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: he has the knowledge of biology where he would be
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: able to do that somehow. But yeah, we could get
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: the whole gang involved. I think that would be fun.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you, and I'm down for that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of fun. I'm also like
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: The Last Island. I still like it that there is
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: like this mystery around it. We get to hear like
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: the jumping too far ahead, but basically also hear that
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: momost that also ended up on the island at the
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: very end and of the third episode, think that he
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: was with Roger, and which makes Momo even more interesting,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: like did you gonna tell you anything? Like spill the beans?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Boys?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Spill the beans?
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely the whole the fact that they are still around,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but like, because I expected whoever had been responsible for
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the creation of these things to be extinct, and finding
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: out that they are not extinct. But the one kid
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that we have contact with like seems to not know anything.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel they guarded their legacy super well, so
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I wonder about that. It just feels sort of like, ouch,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you guys really just like dropped the ball on this.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's fits like it, but yeah, that's true.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: We find out that that he is like that he
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: his family made though made the pornicglyphs. And by the way,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I just maybe a segue or like pond glyphs. A
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: lot of people like them, like defend them, likes them
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a lot, and I this was the moment where I
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: started to care about them more and even like going
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: back because they have been around, but I was never like,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: oh my god, what is this that I was interested?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: But now I'm like, oh, now I'm like they're related
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: to the one piece. Now I'm really interested in them
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: even more.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree with.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: That, and to me, I mean, it makes the Rewatchers
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: even more exciting and I just want to we have
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: not talked about her take a moment to talk about Robin,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: because I feel like she is kind of like the
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: center point of this episode mm hmmmm. And I find
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: it really cute in these episodes. Like one moment that
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I liked a lot is when she sees the pornoglyph.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: She basically waits for permission before she goes to read it,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: because like Dogstorm is like do you want to read it?
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: You seem interested in it. Then she's like if you're
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: allowing you know that?
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: It is It is like really cute, you know, like
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: that she has the respect of the culture and to
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: wait for getting permission in this way. I like that moment.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. I think that this is This
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: is something that I struggle with with this show a
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: little bit, is the fact that like there is obviously
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: an expectation that you are going to consume and reconsume,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: so that certain things wind up taking on more context
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: for you as you go through it time and time again.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And it's like kind of a danger in the way
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: that I'm watching things because the pony Glyphs feel so
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: unconnected to anything that I didn't give a shit about
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: them at all. It felt like something that was probably
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: going to wind up being important but absolutely wasn't at
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the moment. And so the fact that like, there is
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: such a big deal made about what's going on with
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Robin learning to be able to read them and them
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: trying to stop her from reading them, and you know
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: that whole thing. I understood that this is like a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you know, there's likely going to be a bigger plot
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: point behind this, but because he waits so long to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: let us know what the point is, when I'm watching
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: it for the first time, I feel like, why couldn't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: you have given me a little taste earlier so that
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I would have engaged more in cared more. And that's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: what I run up against with the show a lot
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: is like if you had just let me know any
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: of that sooner than you did, instead of treating it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: like it's its own reveal. It's not just a separate
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: its own reveal. It's related to a lot of stuff
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: that already happened. And this is how I felt about,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: like finally finding out what happened to Robin. You guys
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: know that I just didn't connect with Robin. And we
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: finally get her life story, like so far into things,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and we know about her caring about the ponent glyphs
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and history and what not to begin with, but we
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: don't know why, we don't know how important it is
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: to her, and it's just telling things in a way
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: that to me feels a little backward. You know, it's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: him trying to like give us breadcrumbs and be like, oh,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you'll find out eventually. I'll keep you guessing. But in
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: my opinion, everything would have had more weight and more
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: interest if you reversed it. And there are a lot
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: of things in this series where I feel like that's true,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: and this is one for me where I'm like, I'm
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: kind of on the fence. A part of me feels
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: like I would have liked to know the significance of
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the ponoglyphs in this context sooner. Another part of me
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: kind of likes the fact that the ponent glyphs being
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: key to the one piece is a big reveal, But
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like we could have split the difference where
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: there's like a legend about the ponent glyphs being connected
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: to some you know eventually, like they can help you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: achieve wisdom or that you can find your heart's desire
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: or some you know something that like if you read
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: them all you get something, and then eventually we find
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: out the one piece is the thing. Maybe that's like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: part of the connection the thing is. I don't know
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: if the ponoglyphs leading to the one piece is circumstantial.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: The ponoglyphs might lead to the island, and the island
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: has a whole other thing going on, and gold Roger
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: just buried the one piece there for different reasons, So
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the ponoglyphs may not originally have pointed to the one piece.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: They may have pointed just to the island. So I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: don't know. The island feels like it must be significant somehow,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: I like your thoughts here, and I kind of do
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: feel you on that. But a lot what you just
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: said is actually what was a big thing in the fandom,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: because there was a big partial portion of the fandom
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: who was like, no ponoglyph will lead us to the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: one piece, like before this real happened. And so what
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: you're saying is like you would have cared more knowing that,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: but people cared because there was like a lot of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: people believing that that was like a connection there and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: it turned out to be true. So and maybe those
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: people like it more that they could like theorize along
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: the way and enjoy that. But I can definitely see
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: what you mean. And I was I'm somebody who just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: consumes things and let it wash over me. Honestly, I'm
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: just like the kind of consumers though for me it
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: was fine this way, But I get what you mean.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the fact that, like people were theorizing and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: everything is part of the whole. We are going to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: rewatch this many many times. There's going to be like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: a fandom community built up around it because it takes
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: so long for the story to be told that this
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: is part of the experience of it, you know, And
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I think that I'm just not used to stories being
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: told with that as part of the understanding that I'm
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: going to take it for granted. You're going to rewatch
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: this you're going to reread this, you are going to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: be in spaces where people talk about this NonStop, and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: that it's going to take literal years for us to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: get to the point of any of this. You know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just not used to stories that do things that way.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: So for me, it's just like, I'm sorry, Seraphim has
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: left so many comments and I have not been able
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: to talk about them. Sorry Saraphim. But one thing that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: they they commented, it's one piece assume everything has far
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: more meaning than you first assume. And that's the thing
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: like I do. I do assume that, but that doesn't
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: mean I give a shit it may. It actually kind
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: of causes me to dis engauge because once I see
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: a thing, I'm like, Okay, that's probably gonna be something,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: but it probably won't be anything for like one hundred
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and fifty episodes, so I don't even need to think
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: about it. And I wouldn't mind being given a hint
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: that it's something that I can sort of, you know,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: feel some connection to before one hundred and fifty episodes
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: pass and it's finally brought up again by somebody, I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: would I would be down for a little bit more
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of a hint ahead of time. But again, yeah, I'm
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: not consuming this the way that it seems like most.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Of the world consumed it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm gonna have a real different like takeaway here.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: I totally get that. I hope just in the general
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: things it is still enjoyable. I actually i'm listening right
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: now to your Courage of Lost Metal. I feel like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: it is and with Miles and you kind of ran
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: into a thing where Randall Anderson we need to talk
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: about like they're all the different kind of universes and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: and this is not completely the same. But I at
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: least feel like Woe Piece still works even if you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: don't remember every everything like you don't, you don't need to,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: but for the people who really enjoy it, it is there.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I definitely think it still works. It's it's just that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm missing out on a part of
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the enjoyment by not getting to care about things more.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: But again, that's like part of that enjoyment is that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: like a way of consuming this that I don't. And
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: so maybe there's just no way from you you really
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: ever get that, like understand that sort of process.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I get it, because I mean, at the end I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: feel like this enjoyment is the fandom that we're talking
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: about at large, if I'm if I'm catching what you're throwing. Yeah,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: it feels like that the fandom of One Piece, I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: at least feel like it's like really engaging and really great.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: And I mean, due to the show and in general,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: you cannot really engage with the fandom, but I yeah,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like that that's maybe the part that is musing.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Of course, like over like the stories that we have
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: told and like the theories like they're like I mean,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: they are like crazy theories about out there about One Piece,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: and we have a fandom just like know them and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: things that have been disproven and things that have been proven.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: And I can see that that uss unspoiled, as Natasha
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: for when spoiled, I cannot enjoy that, and I'm sorry.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's sort of nice in a way because
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, even though I feel sad that I'm not
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: getting the full experience of it due to in not
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: engaging in that way because of spoilers and all of that,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: there is sort of and I think that I'm experiencing
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit what Rashaun experienced when we covered Harry
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Potter where she knows that there's this massive fandom out
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: there that is just waiting for her to finally be
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: spoiled so that she can engage in all the stuff.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: So even though I do feel frustrated by the way
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the story is told sometimes, I also know that by
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: the time I catch up, if that ever does happen,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I am going to have a lot of spaces that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I can like go in and join in, and there
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: will be some wild stuff, and I'll also be able
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to like go back and watch through with like not
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: just the context of what I know now, but also
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: the filler episodes. I'll be able to go through as
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: well and probably have some strong feelings on some of them.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure the fandom also has strong feelings on
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of them. So yeah, So I there's like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: a big part of me that's sort of like enjoying that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: And I think I just have like this sort this
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: envy of how well versed folks are that have gone
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: through this so many times, and I feel like I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: often am just scrambling to keep track of stuff, you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and it's not like there's nothing to be done about it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: There's no way to approach this and give like you
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: guys helping me out in the comments or in the discord.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much the only thing that you can do
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: is to like remind me of things through that or
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: for the show to remind me of stuff. There's just
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: because I do things this way, for spoil me in
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: a vacuum all alone, I've done this to myself. I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: have nobody to blame but myself.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: You know, well maybe we have a handy do as well.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to lay blame. He said it,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: he said it on me.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: It's our fault. It's me. I started it all. But yeah, no, no,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: And of course nobody expects you to rewatch it like
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: you have so many, so many other shows going on,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: like and of course it is kind of interesting. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: mean I find it interesting to do to watch it
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: through dead lens as well to kind of see you
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: work through this all, like the whole story and now
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: kind of back to the story. If that's fine with you,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: let's do that. I just wanted to talk a little
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: bit more about Robin, and I forgot what I wanted
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: to say, Like, there is this really cute scene where
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: kat Wiper is oh no, before that, the fandom again
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: with Robin, I just wanted to close it off if
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: we don't A reason why maybe Robin doesn't connect so
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: much with you is that outside in the fandom, she
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: has that role of she is arguably the most important
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: character in one place because she can read the pornic glyphs,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: she can read the ponnit live she is.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's true. I mean, that's what like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: it winds up coming down to later is and being
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna want to kidnap her, so watch out
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: for that's wild thing to just like say.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: But but it is true. And I feel like, like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: I personally like Robin, but a lot of the fandom
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: like really loves her, which I not think is raw.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: But I feel like the connection with her to the
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: overarching story gives her like an extra boost, which again
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: is not unfair, Like I can definitely see it because
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: she is important. She's really important to this story. And yeah,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: but I like that the moment where all of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: straw heads are like, no, we will protect her, like
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: she says, like I have strong friends and they're like
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: all blushing. It's so cute.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: That was another look we have a few moments in
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: these episodes where we see like an emotion from Lufy
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: that we do not often see one of them being
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: real ticked off at Momo who just thinks he's cooler
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: than he should, and then him getting genuinely bashful, can like,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there is an episode out there, guys that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: this has happened, but I I thought about it after
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: this moment because it caught me so off guard. We
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: have never seen him react this way that I can remember.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: He blushes, he gets little like like little hearts, you know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: like it's a moment and I just never expected.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Him to.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: It's so it's it's a perfect reaction from him because
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: all he cares about is fighting and his friends. Like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: so of course his friend saying, I have no doubt
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: that he will be up for it. Of course this
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: is going to be the thing, right, Yeah, but it
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: didn't occur to me, and we've just never seen it
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: laid out like this, So for him to just be
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: so precious and touched about it. And then we have everybody,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: like each of the fighters going around and being bashful
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: in turn about you know, her, assuming that they will
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: have her back. But Loufy like We've seen them all
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: sort of have this moment except for Loofy, so it
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: was cute for all of them, but really it's about him.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: He's the one that I was the most tickled by
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: for sure with this. Ah yeah, So I'm trying to
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: get to because we have I'm like scrolling through the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: third episode to make sure that we haven't missed anything.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry. Louvi's face when us up
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: SHA's his plan to not have to fight is so
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: fucking funny, you guys. If I did, there's like a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: block on taking screenshots. If it weren't so difficult to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: take screenshots on this, I would definitely try and use
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: this as like the image photo for this episode. But
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: just this is like the sort of thing that I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: would like to keep in my phone as a reaction
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: photo too. Just leaven comment sections in places, just this
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: incredibly sad and frustrated face, exactly exactly.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe one thing we have not talked about it is
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: they go outside quickly, and it is basically the Samurai
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: crying over the city and seeing the destruction that was
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: the episode before, in the second one. But I just
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: saw that and it is just a short I mean,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: it's kind of drawn out, but it is a short
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: moment of just to show how much they appreciate the
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: sacrifice the min's made. You know, it is not they
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: realize it. It's not like, oh yeah, thanks for saving
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: our friends and now everything is okay or like they
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: know and that came at the cost, at a huge cash,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and I like to see that portrait.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I definitely like this was this was a time where
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind it being drawn out because this whole
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: thing has been fought over this one guy and we
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: only just found out he's even still that he was here,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: so and you guys know, like last time, when it's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: revealed that he was here, I was just floored at
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: like what it would be like to be the person
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: that was the subject of all of this sacrifice, and
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: how how incredibly sad I would be that, Like they
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: wind up coming out of it okay in terms of
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: loss of life, but like there's so much destruction that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: how do you get over that and live with yourself?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: It's not your fault, but you can't help but feel
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: like it's your fault. I mean I would, and that
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: is definitely something that he is coping with. Is just
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: knowing that they were out there going through this this
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: whole time, that he was powerless to help them, and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: that this city that has like he actually got to
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: see it before the destruction, so he knows what a
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: difference this is versus our friends coming in only having
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: seen it destroyed and not really having the context for
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: what it was like before. So it's a really different Yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: I actually really liked this moment, and I was glad
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: that he has this like weight that he's carrying, and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: he says that he will avenge them for what they
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: had to sacrifice for him, and I like that because
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I would just that would eat me up, you know, I.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Think that is I don't know, I don't know what
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: it would feel I would feel. Even if I would
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: personally go out and kill Jack, it does not feel
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: like enough, you know. Yeah. Right, It's the kind of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: deal where it's like, oh my god.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's like killing him, great, thanks, he
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: was already gone, He's already not doing anything to us anymore,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: and our city is still ruined.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: I do think that I would feel like they need
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: to do it just because I want to do something,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: But I I just am glad that it gets addressed. Though,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: because these guys have such honor surrounding their friends and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: and their role as usually being the protectors, I'm assuming
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: that probably being protected instead of the protector really got
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: under his skin.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I feel like we're kind of getting at
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: the end, but I mean the end of the third episode,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: and I want to after that ask you about some predictions,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: but we can kind of the drop that, yeah, we
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: get his name, Nomo Son. I'm not sure did we
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: get his name? Do you remember that?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I don't remember? Who is this.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Like Momentezuka's son, Like they ask at the end, like
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: like he gets revealed that the Stonemasons are from his
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: clam and then they're like, yeah, but his father could
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: not pass down to Momentezuka how to read the pornent list,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: like so and apparently he was killed and as you
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: know tells this story, he's like really upset. He's like
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: hitting his knee and.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like on board with it, but also,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: my god, they just have this go on for such
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: a long time every time.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and MoMA is crying like really full out sobbing,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: and yeah, that's that's also when when they dropped that
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: that he was on the on gold Rocher shape right,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: his father was, And I don't know, Like I just
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: wanted to ask you in general, maybe some predictions because
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: we have kind a lot of things in the air.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: We also have to hold Sanji thing going on, and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I just would like to hear what you think we're
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: going next, or like, what's it about to happen?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question, because like I am so bad
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: at predicting this. A lot of the time, the show
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: will really duke left when I thought for sure we
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: were going right, And you know, it's like sometimes I'll
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: be glad because I'm like, oh, I thought this was
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: going to take longer, And then sometimes I'll just be like,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: I don't care about this other thing? What are you doing?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: And honestly, as much as like I'm into finding the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: phonyglyphs and finding the one piece I've I have very
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: little expectation of ever actually finding it, It's fine for
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: me to totally back burner that for now. I want
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: to deal with soanjy please, I really want to figure
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: out what the hell's going on there Soanji. This bru
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: is a disaster, Like how we're gonna have to deal
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: with big Ma. I don't know what this woman that
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: he's allegedly supposed to marry is going to be like.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: But I have to imagine it's like we're gonna make
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: her purposely terrible. It's so up in the air for me.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: It could be either we're going to make her this hideous,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: horrible monster that he can't even look at and it's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: too awful a fate to imagine. Or she's gorgeous and
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: nobody wants him to marry her because it's gonna cause
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: him to leave the straw hats. But and he's like,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: of course I won't marry her. I don't want to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: leave the straw hats. And then as soon as she
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: walks in, he's like, fuh, I'm gonna marry this shit
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: out of that woman. So oh, it could really go
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: either way. I feel like the second one feels more
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Soani Like it feels like if we're when we're with Oda,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: what we're doing is as much nosebleed material as possible
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: with Soanji, you know, so that like, I probably want
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: to go that way, and I would prefer it to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: like the inevitable. Oh isn't she fat and ugly? Because
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, who knows.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: It would be more difficult to get him back, wouldn't it.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, or we get like what's it called, a
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: new crewmember like his wife and replace him.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, I didn't even think.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: You thought, like replacing me, not like.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: I thought replacing him, which I I love, but like,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I hate it the idea of.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I hate it so much, Like
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: it's not having a new crew member isn't necessarily a
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: bad thing. We've had people added, and sometimes they've been
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: added and it hasn't fucking mattered, Like where's JIMBEI if
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: there was a whole thing with him being a crew
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: member and this fucking guy we haven't seen.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And you know, so yeah, I don't know.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: It could be that sort of thing. Yeah, we get
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: a new crew member technically and then we fucking never
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: see her again. You know, it might be nothing, but
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: and she might be cool. She might be cool, and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, yeah, Adder is a crew member.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: She's read, you know, like he just doesn't have a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: great track record with writing women characters that I like.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that often you know, yeah, it's not impossible, but.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm h yeah, no, that's I mean, your next
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: course is sany in that case, like like you're wishing
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: your prediction or like, yeah it is Sangie at the moment,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: and I totally understand that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really just I want to find out more
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: about how he wound up where he is because I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: wonder that from the start, whose child is this? And
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: so that is the part that's really like at the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: moment on my mind. And yeah, I don't know, man,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: I I just don't. I don't care about treasure. The
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: friends are the treasure. We lost a friend, you know,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: that's true.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: No, hey, I totally see that. Was there anything else
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask? Well, in general, did you enjoy
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: these episodes? I think I didn't even ask the beginning,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: so I'm asking now that's.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Funny, Yeah I did. I I just like, because you
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: know how this is where every time I cover with
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: a co host, I know, okay, these episodes are going
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: to be significant. So I started off thinking that it
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: was going to be Riiso that was the significant part.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Rights is that the name of the ninja? Yeah, Riiso.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be it that it
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: was like, we're getting introduced to this character and so
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: he's the thing, you know, and I was sort of like, huh, okay,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: he's not what I would think would be a big deal,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: but let's wait and see, you know, And then the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: ponyglyph reveal, I was like, oh, this makes more sense. Okay, good.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't that it was not You're right. I
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't like not enjoying it to begin with, but I
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: was genuinely sort of like confused about it, and then
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: it all became clear.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, I'm excited for like the next episodes as well.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm really excited to see where and I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: know where the journey will take us, but like your
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: your takes of the journey, I'm exciting what you have
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: to say for the future arts that are coming. Yeah.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really really curious because this has gone in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: a direction that I wasn't expecting in terms of like
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: the crew getting separated from just one person. This doesn't
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: happen very often. You know, we have like everybody sort
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: of has their moment, I guess, but I'm trying to
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: think because like you know, we have Nami and she
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: gets separated from the crew right at the beginning because
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: it turns out she was lying about who she was.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: And we have oos Up who separates because he decides
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be part of things anymore, and
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: then reconsiders, and we have Robin separating because she, you know,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: thinks that she shouldn't be with them and brings harm
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: on everybody around her. So a lot of them, they
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: have their their moments of like going off on their own,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: and I'm curious about if every single one of them
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: is going to get this or not. I don't mind it.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I do think it's like it. It's just interesting because
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: the dynamic of the of the group changes when one
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: of them is gone. So it's just sort of.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's long. It kind of makes
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: say for the characters and for the story, Like this
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: really feels like Sanchi did not really get kidnapped. I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: mean he got, but you know, like there is like
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: a whole different layer to it where it kind of
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: seems like that he went on his own accord, you know.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and yeah, they're like layers or like different
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: layers to each character. And like for example, Usups was
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: like deeply layered with like he's self low wing, you know, like, yeah,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: it was so much strong packed. So yeah, photo us
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: that from time to time, and I feel like every
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: time he pulls it off, and oftentimes some of the
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: best words comes out of that.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Everybody, Yeah, I agree with that in particular, was like
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: that one got to me real bad. It got to
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: me because I like felt so bad, and then it
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: got to me because Zoro being like that bitch was
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: an asshole. You can't just let him come back, And
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: I was like what and then oh shit, he's right.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: So that one I really really like. That's like maybe
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: my favorite. All right, all right, we have to wrap
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: this up. But yes, thank you so much for joining me.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I enjoyed my time here,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm always I don't know, I think I already
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: have booked another one, honestly, I'm not sure, somewhere in
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: November maybe, but I am always enjoying my time being here.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: And I hope people are not sick of me.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: No, nobody's sick of you. I'm sure every time people
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: are like, oh thank god, she's got a co host
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: this time, it's not just her droning on alone. Do
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: you want to plug anything before you go?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Not at the moment. I'm deep in my master's right now,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: so that's all my time goes into that at the moment,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. Wish me luck for that, guys,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: and wish me luck for the next leg six months.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: We're just at the beginning of my friends, Good luck,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: good luck.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: I hope that I can help by being in the
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: background when you're doing stuff.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you you are you awful are and it helps.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, Thank you all again for listening. Hope
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you're enjoying the coverage, and until next time to balloon motherfuckers.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled Network podcast.