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ENCORE EPISODE: THE EMPTY NEST AND PANTRY ORGANIZING · Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered.
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  This isn't just an encore episode.
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  This is a an original third ever episode of Uncluttered and
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  Unfiltered that you're about to hear.
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  And the reason we chose this, we didn't have time to do a new
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  episode with Memorial Day and Christine out of the country.
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  So we chose this based on how many people are just becoming
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  empty nesters this time of year. A lot of kids are going off to
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  start their first ever semester at college.
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  Be it a summer or fall starting date.
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  And so we thought, let's bring back the empty nest episode.
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  And it's especially fun because gosh, we were so young then.
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  It was almost three years ago. We hope you enjoy.
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  Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
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  you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
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  professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
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  Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
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  Thanks so much for joining us. This is episode 3 of Uncluttered
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  and Unfiltered. My name is Eden Kendall.
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  I am a broadcaster of many, many years.
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  And I'm here with neatly designed professional organizer
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  Christine Stone. Hi.
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  Hey. Everyone, we're back.
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  We are back. So who are we if you're just
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  joining us for the very first time?
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  I am 56 years old. I am a mess in every sense of
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  the word because I'm always running in circles.
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  Christine, on the other hand, is a professional organizer.
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  You have to follow her on Instagram.
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  Stop what you're doing and do that.
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  Do that immediately. Neatly designed.
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  You're very different than me, and yet we're very much the same
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  in a lot of ways. Absolutely.
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  We're we're women over 50 and we also, you know, have a lot of
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  similarities. Our kids are up and grown and
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  we've gone through some of the same things in life and just
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  wanted to share it with everybody else.
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  So basically it's this our theme, our mantra, if you will,
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  is let it go and don't look back.
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  If you you are somebody that's listening in your 30s or your
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  40s, you will hopefully pick up some things from us that will
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  help you to realize that you don't have to hang on to every
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  emotion every. Relationship.
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  Relationship, every guilty moment of your life, anytime you
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  had an embarrassing moment, you can let it go or you can become
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  somebody who can laugh at these things and also your stuff.
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  At being an organizer. We're always going to give you
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  tips and things to get your space neater and more
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  simplified. Uncluttered.
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  Because it's all part of the the grander theme of uncluttering
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  your your whole psyche, your whole the way you look at
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  things. Now, if you are 50 and up, we
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  hope you feel like you found your people.
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  Yes, we do, We really do. So today we're talking before we
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  get into today's organizational segment, but we're going to
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  we're going to be talking about the empty nest because when the
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  kids fly the coop, you are left with more space in your heart.
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  There's a big old lump in your hole in your heart of lump in
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  your throat. But then you also have some
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  extra space. So we're going to talk about all
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  of the emotions and all of the things that go into the nest
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  becoming empty. But before we do that, let's
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  let's get in The Time Machine and go back many years to when
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  the kids were smaller. And you are like today's
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  listener who has a pantry that just makes her want to pull her
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  hair out. Tell us a little bit about this
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  pantry. Well, this pantry I looked at
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  and I immediately said we have to repaint this it, we want it
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  and make it look brand new. So we have to remove the
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  shelving. We're going to put the shelving
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  back in, but it really needed some sanding and a fresh coat of
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  primer and paint. Which goes back to something we
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  talked about in our first episode and we got some feedback
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  where you said we talked about painting walls and and doing
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  things like that and you feel like nobody really sees it, but
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  you see it and you're worth it. Well, especially no matter where
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  it is, but in a pantry everybody sees that is true.
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  I mean that is the kitchen is the hub of the home.
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  So if you are going to tackle 1 area to begin with it, it would
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  be great to tackle the kitchen because the kids have friends
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  come over, you eat dinner in there, you prepare lunches in
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  there, you prepare food in there, you have dinner time in
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  that area. So really tackling the kitchen
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  is a priority usually. So with her pantry, I said we
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  did a fresh coat of paint, something as simple as a garbage
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  can. She had a black garbage can and
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  to me it once again, I always tell you what sticks out to me
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  versus someone else garbage can she didn't even think about.
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  But when we got a new slim line garbage can from Target and it
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  was white, it just disappeared. And that's what you want to do
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  with spaces you if you're trying to work with something you
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  already have, which this was her pantry.
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  She wasn't changing it, she was just giving it a facelift.
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  You have to work with what you have.
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  And so looking at the dimensions, looking at the
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  space, she also wasn't using the door.
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  Everybody needs to use the door in a pantry because it's such
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  valuable space. It's like a wall.
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  Yeah, it's like a wall. And so we had a door organizer
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  attached and we put, you know, paper products and some other
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  items in there. And the fresh coat of paint
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  right away made it look brand new.
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  They reinstalled the shelves and one of them they installed a bit
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  higher because it was so low. So that even gave her more
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  space. And then we did very inexpensive
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  organizing items. I mean I'm talking very
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  inexpensive from IKEA and we did a three tier organizer so she
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  could see all our canned goods. We decanted items, we put items
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  that she never uses on the very top.
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  She. Decanted items, meaning you had
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  like some some containers and you took things out of the
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  boxes, yes, and put them into the containers.
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  Put them into the containers, like cereal, cookies, whatever
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  you want to put in them. It's easy because they're kids
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  were older, they could get their own snacks and we also put
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  snacks in bins so the and labeled them so the kids could
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  go in there after school and grab their own snacks.
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  Then I also had a cart. I love, love, love these carts.
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  This is from Target. You can get them anywhere
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  though. And it's just a white cart and
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  we used it for all her paper products.
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  So when she's entertaining or has other children over, she
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  just wheels it out and it has the plastic forks, the knives,
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  whatever in it, and paper plates.
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  And so we used it more for that because she wanted to wheel it
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  right up to the table, which I love.
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  But you can use them for arts and crafts.
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  You can use them for anything in a bathroom, anywhere, dorm room.
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  So we added that next to the garbage can.
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  So now that big hole that was underneath the shelving it looks
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  normal like everything looks exactly how it was supposed to
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  look. I can't tell you how happy this
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  after made her and her family, even her kids said and her
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  husband like, Oh my gosh, this has been amazing.
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  So once people get on board, they just are so happy once it's
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  done and you know, she said. I made her feel like her kitchen
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  had new life in it again. Did you do any lazy Susans?
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  I know you're big Lazy Susan I. Did lazy Susans and yes I did a
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  couple of them. It's up high so that she could
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  see what she owns. Did you just spin it around?
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  You just spin it around. And so she never really utilized
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  the higher shelves because she couldn't see what was in them.
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  So yes, Lacey, Susan, you'll hear me talk about those over
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  and over just because it allows you to see what you own.
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  So you just keep buying more of the same thing.
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  We hope you enjoy your pantry the new way.
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  And one of these days when the nest is empty, you will look
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  back on those days where you couldn't find things and you'll
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  just say you know, it, it it just like we do with everything
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  in life. You know this too shall pass.
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  That's like the main, the main message here.
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  So let's talk about the empty nest.
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  I only just, I want to say yesterday or the day before, one
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  of my social media memories came up and it was a picture of my
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  son and we were leaving him at college for the first time.
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  He was the first bird to fly, wasn't an empty nest, but he was
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  the first one to go away. And that was tough, but I knew
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  it was going to be extra tough when the girl child took off.
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  And that was so difficult that we decided I needed a project.
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  And the project was going to be to downsize, move houses.
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  So that would keep me busy. We downsized and then COVID hit
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  and back came both kids in this downsized house that could
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  barely fit all of us at one time.
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  But you know, these are the the the bittersweet moments in our
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  lives. Tell tell us your experience
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  with empty nesting and also how it figures into this whole like,
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  you know, moving, moving forward in our lives.
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  For me, I having two daughters and they're five years apart.
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  So when the first one was leaving, you're not going to
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  believe this, but like 3 days earlier we were taking her on
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  like a Monday. And I think 3 or 4 days earlier
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  Michael Jackson had died. And I know we've already talked
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  about sentimental music and memorabilia, and, you know,
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  between the 70s and 80s, that's all we played.
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  And, you know, so, I mean, and it was so shocking.
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  I think it just was so shocking. So the whole time we drove her
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  satellite radio was playing a tribute.
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  And we played it the whole way. And they threw me in the back
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  seat and I would be crying and they would just be talking over
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  me because they're like, is she crying over me or Michael
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  Jackson? So that was my first experience.
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  I really had another one for five years.
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  So although I was a nervous wreck, just about dropping her
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  off because it was in Alabama and it's far from home, I knew I
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  still had another one. But also with the second one, I
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  don't know about you. For me, I thought, oh, I've been
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  there, done this. This is going to be a breeze.
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  Oh, I've got this. Hey, no worries.
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  You know, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I had a serious meltdown
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  on I-95. I mean like my husband's like,
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  should we go turn around and get her so you'll stop crying?
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  I mean, I literally did not see that coming because I'd already
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  sent one off to college. What I do know, since I had
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  already had one off, it passes. You don't stay this way, you
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  know, you kind of get used to it and then the minute you get used
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  to it, they come back, whether it's for Thanksgiving,
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  Christmas, spring break, whatever it may be, so.
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  I had a friend tell me that what happens before they go, and I
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  think I experienced this with both my kids and this is the
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  unfiltered part, is they do something called shitting the
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  nest. When your kid starts acting in a
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  way right before it's time for them to go that makes you want
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  to kick them out of the yes, they start doing things that get
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  on your nerves. And it's like God's plan, like
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  let's just get on my last nerves so that when I do get you out of
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  this house, I can at least appreciate the quiet.
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  Or you can't take one more eye rolling.
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  You just can't take it. You're like, if one more eye
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  rolls, I'm going to go crazy. Yes, I think God prepares you
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  for wanting them out because they really don't want to be
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  there anymore. So that that helps a little bit.
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  That's one thing that you can remember that, you know, if
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  you're facing it. And another thing that really
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  helped me, and I want to say it was Katie Couric had written an
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  article about sending her kid off to school.
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  And I think it really captured the way I felt.
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  The whole thing leading up to going away to college is this
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  adventure that you're on together.
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  You're with them all the way, cheering them on for their
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  grades, helping them, you know, calling up a tutor to get them
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  ready for their SA TS, looking at their essays, helping them
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  pick schools, going on the tours, decorating their dorms.
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  You feel like you're in, you're a part of this exciting
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  adventure. Then you drop them off and
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  they're like, OK, thanks later, peace out.
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  Got it from here. I will imagine being an
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  organizer. Yeah, hi, it's Eden.
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  Yeah, I'm like wanting to go in and organize our whole dorm
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  room. She's like, okay, you can go
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  now. And I was like.
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  We're on this adventure together.
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  I thought this was a girl trip and you're like I.
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  Need to organize your drawers? No.
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  I'm not done. No, no.
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  Move along, move along. We got this from here.
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  So all of a sudden, this grand adventure that you had planned,
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  that you envisioned yourself going on with them, they don't
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  need you. And it's it's a, it's a tough
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  thing and it will pass. And I'm going to say it passes
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  within weeks. It's not months, it's not years.
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  It's. It's quick.
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  It's quick. I noticed.
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  Like, you know, at first you walk by their room and tears
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  well up, or you sit on their bed and listen to sad music,
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  whatever it is to get it out of your system.
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  Then for some odd reason, it's out and you're like, how can I
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  change this room? You know, I want a gym.
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  I'm, I'm, I want to become an artist.
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  I want, you know, all of a sudden it's shifted and you're
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  like feeling guilty. Then the guilt lays in like, how
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  could I do that? But people do it all the time.
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  They either downsize their homes, they make it a Home
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  Office and put a day bed in there, whatever it is.
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  But they really say, I, I've done my job, I'm done.
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  And now I want to focus on me. And then you find somebody's
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  coming to town to visit you, and you're like, hold on, let me
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  make sure the kid isn't going to be in town that weekend.
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  You can have the room, right? You know, it's just it just
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  really does shift. If you are in that phase right
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  now where maybe you have two, three years left or you are just
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  dreading the day, yeah, you might go out and do something
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  crazy. I went out and got a tattoo
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  right off the bat. Wow.
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  Yeah. The dand.
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  Oh my gosh, yeah. No, I'm not that brave.
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  What did I do? I'm trying to think.
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  So mine is a dandelion and I have the 2 little seeds flying
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  off to signify like they're flying off to plant their own
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  seeds. Yeah, it was an empty nest
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  thing. Yeah, I have a fear of needles,
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  so that wouldn't have happened. But I think what I did is I just
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  put myself into work. Like I was working very part
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  time and once the last one left, I mean, that was it.
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  I just put poured myself into work and I think it worked.
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  It kept me very, very busy. We also did a renovation, a huge
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  renovation, huge. So that kept me very busy.
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  So I just tried to stay busy. When you are a mom and your kids
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  are young, you just sit there and wish and hope.
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  I wish I could sleep one night. I wish they would.
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  I wish they were three. I wish they were six.
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  I you're always wishing their life away or, you know, they're
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  teenagers and you're like, God, I can't wait till I can not wait
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  up for her to come home or whatever.
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  But it goes so fast and then they're gone and you're like,
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  oh, why did I wish everything away all the time?
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  So that's my bit of advice is if you do have young kids, and I
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  tell my clients with young kids all the time that are exhausted.
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  I mean, they can, they're prying their eyes open with toothpicks.
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  This too shall pass. And when it passes, you think,
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  you think, oh, that's, you know, then they get married, then they
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  move. You know, it's just cycles.
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  And you, you just, it's life. And there's different phases,
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  but this too shall pass. That is the that is the main
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  thing the two of us have learned over the years.
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  We don't think that we're sage advisors or that we're Solomon
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  over here with all of this incredible life advice.
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  But basically the one thing we both do know is that whatever
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  season you're in, you will be in another one soon.
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  And so when you are looking at how am I going to get through
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  this empty nest thing? Or it could be the end of a
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  different kind of relationship. Wherever you are, there is
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  something that's next. It's just the nature of how time
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  works. It's just how time works.
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  And you know, the empty nest is the same thing.
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  And I would love everyone's feedback three weeks after
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  because I know everyone's been dropping their kids off right.
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  And so I would love to hear how long it took them yes to to do
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  that shift like you and I did. Or if you you picked up a
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  passion project in preparation at that moment.
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  Like I said, we, we bought a new house and it and the, the girl
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  child was very upset with us. She couldn't believe she was
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  going off to college and when she came home, she wouldn't have
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  her same house. And I understood that that was
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  going to be maybe that was a crappy thing for us to do, but I
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  also knew it was, it was very much a, a house came available
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  that we wanted in a neighborhood we wanted.
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  We knew we had to grab it. That was the scenario.
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  But it was also something where I knew like, I need this.
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  I need this in my life. You're about to start a new
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  adventure. I need an adventure of my own.
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  It was just funny that they both came back.
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  Last night we were sitting on the couch and our son had come
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  over. He's 24.
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  He had come over to have some dinner with us and we're sitting
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  on the couch watching a a show. And he said, this, this, what do
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  you guys do all day? What do you do?
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  And I just, he always has something, you know, that's
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  going to set me off. He just likes to push the
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  buttons. And he said, what do you mean?
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  And he said like, what do you do all day?
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  And we're like this? And then I said we do things and
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  then you'd. Start to defend yourself.
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  When we do things, we go, and we played trivia the other night,
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  we do that. You know, we just feel like we
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  have to come up with all these things to show that we have some
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  kind of valuable life going on without him.
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  But I think that you find your groove.
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  You do find your groove and once you have the groove, as you
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  know, with COVID, when they all came back, because both my adult
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  children also moved back in with us.
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  I mean it, I was happy only because my kids were way older.
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  They were in, you know, late 20s, early 30s.
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  So in my mind, that was never going to happen again.
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  So I kind of really enjoyed that moment for as long as it lasted.
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  But of course, that too, they were done.
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  They were like, OK, this isn't going away.
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  I'm leaving. I'm going to go to my back to my
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  own apartment. You know, I mean, they don't
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  really want to live with you anymore either, you know what I
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  mean? I mean, it's, it's just as they
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  say, it's time for them to fly and that's it.
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  And they always come home. Always.
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  So let me ask you this, if you know you've got these daughters,
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  you, you did this renovation, what are their rooms right now
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  in your home? Are they still there rooms or
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  have you done something with them?
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  I put you on the spot because you made a face.
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  Well, no, it's you're making me laugh now.
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  What we did is we put 2 queen size beds because in our
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  renovation that used to be the master bedroom, so we moved
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  downstairs. So we put 2 queen size beds, you
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  know? No, I mean we made it for us.
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  We didn't make it for the kids. You necessarily.
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  Have a wonderful place to come back.
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  To and they never really come home at the same time anymore
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  unless it is Christmas. I mean, they just, they have
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  their own lives, their own jobs. They just, you know, they live
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  in different cities. They don't really come back here
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  as much as they used to. So my husband and I were just
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  like, we're going to make this good for us.
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  And you know, if we have guests or they want to come, but we've
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  made it work. I mean, it's really worked.
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  And we also downsized after the last one went to college.
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  And so I think, you know, when you downsize, you're kind of
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  making your home for you now, not for somebody else.
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  And that's what we did and that's what most of my clients
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  do. If they're downsizing, it's now
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  about them and what they want. So now we want you to here's
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  your homework, share your stories about becoming an empty
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  nester. Or maybe you are someone who
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  really just has a whole lot of dread for that scenario.
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  Maybe your kids are little and you just can't even that the
• 23:20
  idea that they could one day grow up and go away is affecting
• 23:24
  you right now. But I'm telling you, you, you
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  get ready. You've heard it before.
• 23:29
  People say if you're a good mom, if you're a good parent, your
• 23:32
  job is to get them ready to leave the nest.
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  And you find it hard to believe at a certain point in their
• 23:37
  childhood because you're like, uh, uh, I want you around
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  forever. But truly remember, they will
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  ship that nest. Sorry to be the one dropping all
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  the S bombs today, but they will.
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  They'll they'll, they'll do. That they'll make you.
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  They'll make you, they'll make you happy.
• 23:53
  They're leaving. Let's just say that.
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  It's going to be fine. There are so many.
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  We're not any stronger than you are.
• 23:59
  We just, we got through it. We put our hands down.
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  You just got through it. You just get through it.
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  It, like you said, it's a phase of life and you get through it.
• 24:07
  And I do think if you did your job, they should be moving on,
• 24:12
  you know? I mean, that's what I think.
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  But, you know, everybody has a different situation.
• 24:17
  But kids need to move on, go. It doesn't even have to be
• 24:21
  college, but, you know, they're not going to live with you
• 24:23
  forever. I mean, you know what I mean?
• 24:26
  Yeah. So I I do believe that.
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  So let, let let's talk a little bit about the ways you can reach
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  It's just the uncluttered and unfiltered Instagram.
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  And have you noticed that this is like the way people are
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  communicating this? I have noticed that I'm very
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  unskilled when it comes to technology, but people are
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  talking in they're just used. To see that everyone was doing
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  But now more and more people I want to say younger than me.
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  I've noticed my daughter doing it.
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  My sister-in-law who's younger does it.
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  She'll leave a whole voicemail instead of responding.
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  Be like the Cavemen did and just send us, you know, in text what
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  5040 that really want a community of like minds right
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  Exactly, you might be surrounded, you might be in AI.
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  Have one friend and what we'll talk about this in the future.
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  But one friend who early on when we started this podcast, I asked
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  to please listen and give feedback and she said, you know,
• 26:36
  I'd like to hear from other moms that are my age, 53, but they
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  still have kids that are in middle school and elementary
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  school. That is a whole thing.
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  You got to find your people. And that's a tough, tough spot
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  as well because you're surrounded by people that are
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  the things. Thank you so much for joining us
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  today. And do you have anything you
• 27:13
  want to add at the end? Did we cover it?
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  What do you think? Did we cover everything we want
• 27:17
  to talk about? I think so.
• 27:18
  I think, you know, we're not going to, you know, make move
• 27:22
  them moving out less easy. But we have been there and you
• 27:27
  know, it's part of life. And this too shall pass.
• 27:31
  And that's where we get to say this part.
• 27:33
  We are inviting you to let it go.
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  And don't look back.