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  Welcome back football fans to Gridiron Updates.
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  I'm the second best host next to my man, Tyler.
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  Yeah, here I am. We're working the AFC South
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  right now. They've cut another video. This is
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  second of. Or third of the four. Third of the
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  four of the night. We're going to go through
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  the AFC South now. For sure. We've got Facebook
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  Live going on here too. If we get a couple comments
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  about questions, we'll interrupt into it too.
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  Let's fire off. Let's go with the team I think
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  is the Cleveland Browns of your AFC North, Jacksonville
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  Jaguars. First round draft pick, Mr. Travis Hunter.
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  Is he going to change the day? New O .C. Cohen
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  from the Bucks who paid a bunch of money to get
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  him. Duval. Duval. That annoys me, but they finished
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  last year at 4 -13. And this year I have them
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  at 9 -8. Whoa, 9 -8. I have them as a drastic
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  difference as well, but 9 -8. That's where I'm
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  going with it. I just think the new offensive
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  coordinator, I still have a little belief in
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  Lawrence. But I'm really interested in Sunshine.
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  Old movie reference if you guys don't watch football
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  movies. Better watch that one. That's a great
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  one. That is the best one probably in my book.
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  Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. Yeah, so
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  ETN's back. They have Brian Thomas Jr. who came
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  off an awesome rookie year. So offensively, I
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  think they have everything they need. It's all
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  about defense. They gave up a little over 25
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  a game last year. Sacks, they weren't great.
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  We'll see if... Walker comes back. He was the
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  number one two years ago, I think now, or three?
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  Was he the number one overall? Well, he was a
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  top three. He was up there. He was up there.
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  You expect big things out of him. 100%. Nine
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  and eight, where are you at with them there,
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  Smelty? I also have them improving this season.
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  I have them going up to seven and ten. Seven
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  and ten. Okay. I do have them improving. That
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  puts them. Second in division, actually, at 7
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  -10. For me, it's a fairly weak division. I'm
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  excited to hear the rest of it now. If at 7 -10
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  they finish second. Yeah, no. So I would agree.
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  I have a sliver of hope left for Trevor Lawrence.
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  Again, Travis, ETN being there, I love what he
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  brings, what Tank Bigsby kind of brings the opposite.
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  So it's a nice little one -two punch. Curious
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  to see how Travis Hunter is used. You know, currently,
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  again, I'm using obviously the best depth chart
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  software around ESPN. You're mine. Yeah, Travis
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  Hunter has him, you know, as the number two receiver
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  starting, but then has him as the second corner
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  right now. Okay. Behind Jerrion Jones. Do you
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  think he's a better corner receiver in your book?
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  Good question. Dude's a ridiculous athlete. Agreed.
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  I'm not saying he's not. I was 50 -50 on the
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  Heisman, but looking at what he did, and we won't
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  get into the Heisman debate because that's a
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  whole different pod. But looking at what he did
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  and what he was able to do at such a high level,
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  it's impressive. I'm really curious to see what
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  he'll be able to bring. If they're going to design
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  packages around him, I'd assume they are offensively.
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  But to answer your question, I want to say offensively,
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  he's a little bit more of a weapon. Weapon or
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  better? Skill -wise, if I had to pick which way,
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  then a cornerback is really what I'm asking.
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  I'm not saying is he going to do better on offense.
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  I'd start him at corner over receiver. Agreed.
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  I think he's way better corner than he is on
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  offense. Definitely, he gets 25 plays on offense.
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  Wouldn't surprise me. Gets 10 touches that are
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  really designed, but you've got to throw him
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  in for another 15 just for decoy reasons. And
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  then on defense, if he's He's playing 50. Is
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  he playing 80 snaps a game? And he's not the
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  biggest. He's not Debo. He's not Percy in body
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  size. So that's to me the interesting part. Can
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  you use him anywhere when he's on the sideline
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  the whole year? So that's where I'm kind of interesting
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  on that. But I still 9 -8. I think they're a
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  better team. Their O -line is good. That wasn't
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  an issue last year. I think it's defensively
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  and just Lawrence being consistent and. Not starting
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  off bad. I don't know who they play against right
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  away. But I feel like the last couple of years
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  since they made the playoff run, they've just
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  had horrible beginnings. They have a winnable
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  game for their first game. They play against
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  Carolina at home in Jacksonville. I think that'll
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  be a good matchup for both teams, actually. Because
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  Carolina, I don't think, is going to have that
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  bad of a season either. But we'll touch on them
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  next week. And then Jacksonville travels to Cincinnati.
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  That's tough. And then Houston. and then at San
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  Francisco, and then Kansas City. That's a tough
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  stretch to start the season. If you can escape...
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  Out of week five with two wins, honestly, if
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  I'm Jacksonville, I feel better than what the
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  record looks like. You know what I mean? Agreed.
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  Agreed. Or sneak one and then get three and three.
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  Because later in the season, you got the likes
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  of Las Vegas. You got the Chargers, who I'm not
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  sold on as a Chargers fan. Okay. You got Arizona,
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  Tennessee, Indianapolis, the Jets. These are
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  all winnable games. So you play Indy and the
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  Titans obviously twice. So those are winnable
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  games that I expect Jacksonville to be competitive
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  in and probably win. So I think they get most
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  of their wins on the back half of their season.
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  But, yeah, that's a tough way to start. And keep
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  morale up if you're 2 -5. But, again, I think
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  if you're 2 -5 somehow through that first five
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  weeks, or I'm sorry, for that first seven weeks,
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  I'm sorry. I'm sorry, two and three. I want to
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  say if you can get two wins out of the first
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  five weeks, that's what I'm trying to say. I
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  was picking on what you were pointing out. Don't
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  worry. You were smelling. I was stepping. So
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  where did you have them finishing? Seven and
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  ten. Seven and ten. And I had them nine and eight.
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  So write that down, football fans. Slight discrepancy.
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  Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. So, yeah, for me,
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  it's just offense and then the defense needs
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  to step up. But we'll move on to another team
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  I think that needs to step up is the old Tennessee
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  Titans. Drafted Cam Ward, number one overall.
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  Finished three. 14 last year i have them finishing
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  at a 4 and 12 um 4 and 13 4 and 13 um math's
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  a little slow here but they finished 3 and 14
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  last year i just don't think they have enough
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  yet offensive line they did upgrade a few uh
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  so offensively with lockett but i just don't
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  know if there's enough yet To get him over. And
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  they added Van Jefferson, right? He wasn't there
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  last year. But that guy doesn't really win me
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  over. Calvin Ridley, if he can stay on the freaking
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  field. Tony Pollard hasn't done anything since
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  he left Dallas, really. So I have them at 4 -12.
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  Where are you leaning at right now? For the Titans,
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  I have them at 5 -12. You got them at 4 -13.
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  4 -13. I got them at 5 -12. I think there's a
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  little improvement. I think Cam Ward. Has the
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  potential to be better than what Levis has given
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  them. You know, I feel better for the Titans
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  starting Cam Ward over Will Levis. Obviously,
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  Levis done for the season, I believe. Yeah, he
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  is done for the season. Cam Ward's another athlete.
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  I'm just curious what he's going to look like
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  extending the play in the NFL. I think that's
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  going to be his. best ability and then again
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  his best ability will be availability don't don't
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  go pull an anthony richardson yeah you know um
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  do you feel like they are pretty much the same
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  player cam ward and anthony richardson you know
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  like their style like if i watched their college
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  tape it's just a lot of similarities from florida
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  and miami it's just extending the play a lot
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  it did make a ton of accurate good throws He
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  had a good season last year. He had a great season
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  last year. But it's that NFL, you know, it's
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  not taking the big hit. And I've seen him in
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  his college take a couple. I mean, with any running
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  quarterback coming into the league, we always
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  say the same thing. You know, you've got to protect
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  your body, protect your body. That's what we
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  were looking for from AR last year. At moments,
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  yes. At moments, no. So that's the biggest thing
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  for me. That and, you know, can he be consistent
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  early? This is another schedule, I believe, that's.
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  No, okay, no. This is a competitive schedule
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  for them. They open at Denver. That sucks. That's
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  an L. They then play the Rams. That's probably
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  an L. But now they have a competitive game against
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  Indianapolis. They travel to Houston, probably
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  an L. But now you've got two away games at Arizona,
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  at Las Vegas. Those are competitive for the Titans.
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  I truly believe they can compete in those games.
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  Compete by still being there and lose. Maybe,
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  maybe. I don't know what kind of team Arizona
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  is going to be. Las Vegas? Yeah, we'll get to
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  Las Vegas. vegas uh in the next episode actually
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  and honestly i think for me on the tennessee
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  aspect is defensively they need more sacks um
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  they lost landry uh they did pick up um the monte
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  jones from seattle they still got jeffrey simmons
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  in the middle so he's but i don't know yeah secondary
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  doesn't scare me a ton yeah xavier woods brownlee
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  sneed um yeah so i think they were hurt a bunch
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  on the backside too last year early so Amari
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  Hooker is another one they got back there. So
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  the defense needs to play better. And if they
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  can't establish the run. with Pollard. They do
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  have a bunch of upgrades. They did get Ziegler
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  from the Lions. They got J .C. Latham draft pick
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  last year. Which is nice. And Dan Moore from
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  Pittsburgh. That's building in the trenches.
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  They did upgrade. There's got to be some proof
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  in the pudding right now for me. I don't think
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  it'll be there right now. I'm not too excited.
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  Fair enough. It's hard for a rookie quarterback
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  to start in the NFL. You don't get a Jaden Daniels
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  year very often. Especially in some of these
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  situations. You know what I mean? Obviously,
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  being the best quarterback coming out of college,
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  you're going to go high in the draft to the worst
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  team. So it's always going to be those situations
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  that we see year in and year out. So, obviously,
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  we're hoping that Cam Moore doesn't just become
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  a statistic in that aspect. I mean, I wish the
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  best for that. For sure. So where were we at?
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  Four and three. Give me your number on them.
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  Yeah, five and 12. Five and 12. All right, we're
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  going to go back to probably my favorite guy
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  on the Internet right now who does his little
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  song with Indianapolis Colts. Have you seen that
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  guy? No. Oh, it's pretty hilarious. He does like
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  a horsey. Oh, boy. Yeah, you'll have to check
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  it out. So, yeah, they were 8 -9 last year, kind
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  of in the middle of the road. This year is starting
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  off a little different with Flacco getting named.
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  Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones named the starter.
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  I feel like they're just the same guys. 8 -9.
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  I haven't finished 8 -9 again. 17th in offense.
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  They still got JT. Didn't necessarily get any
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  worse, but a lot of veterans have got to stay
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  healthy. Especially on the defensive side, that's
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  healthy -wise. But where you got them right now?
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  I have them taking a step back. Yeah, Daniel
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  Jones named the starter the other day over Anthony
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  Richardson. I have no doubt we'll see Anthony
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  Richardson again. Although I heard an interesting
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  take. Okay, sorry, I'm going off topic. I have
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  them at 6 -11. Okay. Did you just change that
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  mid -sentence? Nope, 6 and 11 right here. He
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  has it written down. Yeah, it's right here. Typed
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  up. But what I was going to say about Anthony
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  Richardson, some of the stuff I was listening
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  to earlier this week, some people are saying,
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  you know, maybe his time at quarterback could
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  be ending, but. Could open up at a different
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  position because he's such an athlete. I'm like,
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  I don't know. I think he can still be a quarterback
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  in the league. That's the internet just being
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  bored. I mean, if you're on X these days, the
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  amount of what ifs that I see is on full throttle
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  right now. That's the internet in general. Yeah.
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  Every team needs a trade for this guy. I mean,
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  constant over and over. They don't have anything
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  that scares me a ton this year, honestly. I mean,
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  JT in the backfield, that's always scary to see.
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  That's it. Same old line. They did get Tyler
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  Warner from Penn State that I really like as
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  tight end. I think it's all about defense for
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  me. Franklin. Beast. Forrest Buckner obviously
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  up there in age as well. They did get Arbinum
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  from the Vikings. Ward from the 49ers. Which
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  I like those ads. They just picked up Xavier
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  Howard the other day. I didn't even notice. Duke
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  Shelley's. their second right corner right now
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  yeah duke shelly oh god yeah they just need to
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  get after the quarterback they were like last
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  very low in sacks last year um they gave up a
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  ton of points gave up a ton of yards so that's
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  why i got them a middle of the road at eight
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  nine i think their offense is decent enough to
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  win half of the games and they're you know our
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  offense is good enough to win half of the game
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  so What do you got on that? A 6 -11. 6 -11. I
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  think Jonathan Taylor needs to go over 100 yards
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  every game to have a chance to win. for me for
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  the colts yeah i mean he needs to get in the
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  end zone too he only had four teddies last year
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  yeah no for sure you know anybody 14 fantasy
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  yeah losing their mind on 1400 yards four seems
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  really low so that i mean that's red zone numbers
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  there you know so we'll see it'll be interesting
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  on the quarterback aspect so but uh let's move
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  on to probably i think my division winner i think
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  i had him last year too I would hope so. The
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  Houston Texans, 10 -7 last year. I got them 11
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  -9. Where are you at with them? I'll let you
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  fire away with your thoughts. I have them taking
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  a giant leap forward, 13 -4. That's the team
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  I have tied for second in the division with Baltimore.
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  A couple of those wins I have Houston getting
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  are wins against the Bills and at the Chargers.
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  I think the Texans. They're definitely a playoff
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  team. Are they a contender? I think an outside
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  contender, like outside bubble contender. They're
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  like the Redskins almost? Kind of, yeah. I don't
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  think we thought of the Redskins. But I think
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  they're better than the Commanders. I think they're
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  right below the Chiefs for me. Because the Chiefs
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  dropped a little bit for me this year. And we'll
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  touch on them again next episode. Another tough
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  division, by the way, West. But C .J. Stroud
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  really... well, he started bad last year, you
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  know, but they ended better. I can't remember.
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  Injuries. Injuries was their big thing last year.
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  I mean, they lost Diggs pretty much right away.
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  Collins, or Nico Collins, who I have him. As
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  soon as they lost him, too, that was bad. You
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  know, they had Joe Mixon, Levin Tutty is over
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  1 ,000. I guess C .J. Stroud did regress a little
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  bit. Offensive line was, you know, one of their,
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  their biggest issue. I would have, you know,
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  so they did it on picking a gopher up in the
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  second round, the old tackle. And then they picked
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  up Cam Robinson, too. Yeah, so they did do some
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  upgrade on the offense line where they needed
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  to do an upgrade. Defensively, you know, they
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  were six yards a game, second in INTs, fourth
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  in sacks. You know, you got Will Anderson, you
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  still got Hunter. Yeah, LaShere, that linebacker,
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  I remember him against the Vikings. And then
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  you probably might have one of the best cornerbacks
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  in Stingler and Lannister. They're backside.
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  They did get C .J. Gardner -Johnson, too. No,
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  their secondary is pretty solid. Defensively
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  as a whole, they're solid. Will Anderson's a
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  freak. I mean, shoot, Mario Edwards isn't bad
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  either. Obviously, they got Daniil there. That
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  linebacker out of Alabama. Will Anderson. Are
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  you talking about him? No, Henry. Oh, 2 -2. Yeah,
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  that fella. He's solid, too. Al Shayer. I mean,
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  that dude, as dirty as he can be sometimes, that
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  dude is so freaking aggressive. I'll take him
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  on my football team. I will, too. That's the
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  thing. I know. the thing i would example so yeah
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  defensively they're they're top top defensive
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  team for me in the league probably this year
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  um one of the top not the top uh and gonna be
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  a force to reckon with in the playoffs i i this
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  is a team i would not want to see come playoff
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  time again if they're fully healthy nico collins
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  of tank dell can get healthy you know Watch out.
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  Yeah, and see what we got out of Tank, because
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  didn't Tank have a bad knee injury to come out
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  of there? Yeah. So, yeah, I think injury, I think
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  all I have is a lot. They need a running back,
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  man. You don't like Mixon still? I do, but it's
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  like he doesn't play all the time. Fair. That's
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  the position, too. Running back's tough to stay
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  healthy. So I think you need, I mean, Nick Chubb's
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  on a bad number, too, but it's. I don't know.
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  Does he have anything left in the tank? That's
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  what I mean. I'm not sure. Because last year
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  in Cleveland, he didn't look very explosive.
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  But, hey, you got another full year after that
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  knee injury two years ago. So, you know, he's
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  a grinder. So I could see him definitely stepping
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  up his game. So, yeah. Another good couple tight
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  ends, too. Yeah, that team's solid. Kevin, where
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  are we at here? Perfectly? Perfect. So, yeah,
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  we got Texans. I think we're about the same.
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  Who do you have finishing second in this? In
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  this division? Yep. Jacksonville. Jacksonville.
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  I think I did, too. So Houston wins it by a good
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  margin. Yep. And then I have Colts, and then
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  I think Titans on the bottom. Yep. Same as me.
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  You have anything else you want to add to the
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  AFC South? No. Not the strongest. Houston definitely
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  in the winter. Yeah, for sure. Coming out. For
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  sure. You know? So, yeah, that's kind of where
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  we both have it. So that'll wrap up the AFC South.
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  got it. Thanks, Kevin, for back over there making
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  all this happen and making us look good, making
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  us sound good. We'll catch you here on the next
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