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Calls for Genocide Isn't Protected Speech · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show. Tuesday morning, twelfth day of
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December. I'm Wes, Thanks for starting your day with me. We are
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in a weird place in the world right now, and just when I think
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it can't get any weirder, it does. And I don't know how this
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happens. I really don't know how all of this happens, but it does,
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and it's a strange place that we're in. And my show today,
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I just want to call for some sort of consistency from everybody. I would
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love for us to find a place of consistency with the things that we say
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and the things that we do that we are just I'm just confused, and
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I think a lot of people are confused, and they just they just don't
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understand a lot. They don't understand a lot. I'm I'm confused. There's
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a lot of things that I don't understand. I just I think being and
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I think this is important for all of us, is to know sort of
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who you are, why why you are, why you believe the things that
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you believe. And I understand that I'll get to my point because I but
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we we need to know why we believe the things that we do. Otherwise
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we sound absolutely foolish when we get challenged on those things. And I know
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that there's there's cases where maybe you say something and one points out, hey,
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maybe you didn't hear that right, And then you go back and you
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look and you go, oh, my gosh, I was an idiot.
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I believed something that I had heard and thought it was the case. And
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now that I've looked into it, I realized that I sound like an absolute
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fool. I'll give an example of one of those situations. And this isn't
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necessarily for me, but it was something that I was I got frustrated with
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for a while. Now it's very much in the rear view mirror and we
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don't have many dealings with it. But if you remember, there was the
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debate between Sarah Palin and I guess this would have been Joe Biden at that
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point, and they were debating and the subject came up about, you know,
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whether or not she had the experience to be the vice president and to
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deal with other countries, you know, just not having the foreign experience and
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foreign affairs experience and she referenced the fact that you could see they are parts
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of Alaska, her state that she governed, where you could see Russia.
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And then at some point Tina Fey, dressed as her on SNL, made
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a joke about she said that you could see Russia from her house, from
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her front door, and that became a thing like, I know people that
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would say, remember she said that, how stupid is she? That's not
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what she said. You're quoting what Tina Fey said dressed as her on SNL,
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and you know, people just got confused. I think pop culture tried
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to push it out like it was a fact, it was factual, and
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then people got confused and they didn't really understand what really happened. And I
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think guess people realize, oh my gosh, she didn't say that what she
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said was factual. There are parts of Alaska where you can see Russia,
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and I guess if it's cold enough, maybe you could even walk across.
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I don't know, I don't know how that works anymore. What'supon a time
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that you could walk right across. That's part of how Native Americans got here,
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right But anyway, so there's times where you think you hear something and
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then someone like, you know, oh, Al Gore says he invented the
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internet. It's not really what he said, you know, it's not what
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he said. People joke about it still, but what he actually said was
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that he was part of on the ground floor passing the legislation for the funding
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to put it in place, and he was he was there for that.
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But the joke is always ah haha, he's dumb. He said he invented
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the internet. So I'm giving you an example on both sides of things that
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you know have been exaggerated and blown out of proportion and not the case.
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But at some point you got to be able to know why you believe what
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you believe and where your integrity comes from. I guess I don't know whether
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or not you can admit, hey, maybe I was wrong. Mother Teresa
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talked about how there were times where she questioned her faith and she always came
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back stronger. Her faith meant more after she questioned because she felt free to
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do that, and she was able to question her faith and find truth in
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questioning her faith. That's good. That's a good thing, right, if
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you're able to question it and it's still there and you're able to solidly come
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out of it. And that's true with politics, it should be should be
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true of all things. As a conservative, I feel like I've got a
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foundational and I've told you many times, you know, I very much come
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from the perspective of, you know, let people live their lives until it
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affects someone else. And when it affects someone else and it hurts someone else
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or it causes someone harm in any way, that's when maybe some sort of
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authority should step in, should be in place. It shouldn't just be you
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know, the wild West in that regard, but otherwise, leave people be.
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And I've said, you know, examples of you know, you could
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talk about encouraging a child to go through a gender surgery and I would say,
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no, you're not looking out in the best entry of the child necessarily.
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I think that, you know, the seat belt law, same kind
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of thing. Yeah, protect the kids. I don't think adults should be
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forced to wear seat belts. I think they should wear them. I think
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they should want to wear them, they should choose to wear them, they
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should have the sense to wear them. But I don't think it's necessary to
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write tickets for it. I don't think that that's really the best use of
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our authority's time. Right. But I think that seat belt laws for kids
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are fine. Those are the kind of things that I'm talking about. Just
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let people live their lives. Somebody wants to, you know, live whatever
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lifestyle on the LGBTQ spectrum. Go live your life, Go be you.
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Don't ask me to participate. And when I say participate, I mean don't
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be mad at me if I get the pronouns wrong. Don't get upset with
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me when it becomes a little confusing. When there's a pronoun that's a sound
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and it's not a word that I haven't heard, and just because I'm not
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up to date on it, it can be difficult. And sometimes it's someone
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that you know and they've making a different pronoun and it takes a while because
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you've known that person for twenty or thirty years by a different pronoun. Right,
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it can be challenging, That's all I'm getting at. I am an
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advocate for let people live their lives until it has an effect on your life,
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and then you should have some sort of a right that it's overstepped and
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part of faith. My political views certainly are rooted in my faith. Deep
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down, I think we should be more compassionate to each other, We should
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care about each other more. All of those things come into play for why
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I feel the way that I feel. And it's also my faith tells me.
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People have a free will. They can make mistakes, right, they
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can make mistakes, and it's not my place to tell them that they're making
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a mistake unless it hurts someone else, and in that case we should stick
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up for other people. We should stick up for other people. For example,
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in times when we have you know, college universities with you know,
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giant mobs of people that are shouting that, you know, calling for genocide
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of Jewish people, that's a time when it's overstepped bounds. You know,
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it's overstepped it. We talk about free speech sometimes and sometimes people say things.
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If they yell out white power, that's one of those things that you
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know, we could all go, that's scary. We don't want to hear
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that. Nobody really wants to hear it. That itself isn't necessarily breaking the
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law. You know, it's a First Amendment thing. If you want to
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yell out white power, if you want to yell out black power, if
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you want to yell out, you know, give Palestine their land bag.
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Right, if you want to yell those things out, that should be under
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the realm of protected free speech. If you want to yell out, kill
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all the Jews and give the land to the Palestinians, that's where we're crossing
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that line. That's where we have an issue. We've gone through many many
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years, decades even of especially under the last president while he was in office,
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and he would say something and people would say, oh, he has
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he spoken out against white supremacy? Has he spoken out against that? Because
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this particular thing happened and he didn't specifically say that he's against white they were
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trying to lump him into the extremist groups and trying to say, oh,
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he's part of the white power movement. When somebody would do an okay sign
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and they would say, oh, my gosh, they're flashing a white power
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symbol, and then they well, we got to end them. We got
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to end their ability to run a business, or to own a house,
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or to live their life. We got to end them because they did that.
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The notion of protecting someone's right to be a bigot is it does fall
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under the First Amendment. It's not good. It's not something that we want
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to see in our society. We don't want bigots on either side. A
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lot of the stuff that's happened in this country in the last ten years falls
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under some form of bigotry, and it's really disturbing. There's a lot of
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very disturbing things. I don't think it's as widespread as they want us to
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think it is. I think a lot of people just love each other and
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you know, care about each other, look out for each other. And
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this notion that everyone is in this category of oppress or oppress ee. But
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that's part of what they want to push in schools, that's part of what
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they want to tell our kids and to grow up with that mindset. And
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they don't need to. They don't need to grow up with that mindset.
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We all are trying to extinguish and exterminate some of those things or all of
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those things. Really. I mean, I think we could acknowledge every now
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and then that there are you know, differences culturally sometimes, but we should
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embrace those the differences, that's what I mean, and then extinguish the hate.
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We don't need that. But now that we have this war, that
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has broken out in Gaza because of atrocities against the Jewish people in Israel,
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and we have university presidents I don't need to rehash all of that, but
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that have basically tried to defend calling for genocide of Jewish people. Something that
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might fall under protected free speech depends on how it was said, what the
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circumstance was, and I think we all know that if we had a college
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campus where people were yelling for the extermination of any other group, any other
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group just about I don't know, maybe they could yell. You know,
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I've seen interviews with people saying that they wish all white men, all straight
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white men, could be sent to Mars, all straight white men should be
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killed, all straight white men should be eliminated. They wish that we would
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all go away, sorts of things. So maybe that could happen, But
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it's right now. It's Jewish people that's who. That's the group that is
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being targeted and for some reason, calls for their extinction and extermination. This
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is a weird place. They're saying, Oh, but it should be protected
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free speech to be able to say that, because they're not acting on it,
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they're just calling for it. They're asking for the extermination the genocide of
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a people that Let's be honest, we're all aware of, you know,
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Nazi Germany, We're all aware of the Holocaust. We're all aware of that.
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It's the first thing that everyone says when they want to attack a politician
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they don't like. Sarah Palin was called a Nazi. Trump was definitely called
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a Nazi. Rohnda Santis has been called a Nazi. I'm pretty sure,
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George W I think any Republican has been called the Nazi, you know,
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any Republican at all, and any sort of authority or power has been called
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a Nazi or a fascist or anything in that realm. So if being a
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Nazi and a fascist is the worst thing ever, let's focus and being called
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Hitler as the go to insult. Then why are we on college campuses allowing
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students to yell things that Hitler would have yelled? Like, why is that
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something that we think is okay? Why do is anyone saying that it's okay
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protect their right to say, Hey, Palestinians should be able to, you
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know, reclaim land if that's what you want to say, that should be
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protected. Sure, absolutely, When we had groups of people in Charlottesville that
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were gathered, and you know, some of them were hostile on each side.
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Some of them were peaceful but saying things that made people uncomfortable. And
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they said, oh my gosh, this is hate speak speech. We can't
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have these things. This isn't protected speech, when it technically was by the
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ones that weren't screaming for anybody to be killed or murdered. See, that's
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where we crossed the line. Right when we start calling for someone to be
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killed or murdered, or something stolen or some sort of crime to be committed,
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we've lost our minds. We've lost our minds. And I don't even
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know where you go with this. I just know that SNL did a skit
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back to them over the weekend where they had they were mocking the Senate hearings,
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and they weren't mocking the university presidents who should be mocked. One of
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them has lost their job. The other two, you know that thought it
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was funny. I guess they're still there. I don't really understand where we're
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at with all of this. I just know that hate speech is pretty recognized
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and it should be something that we're able to call hate speech as soon as
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it's recognizable, and I know that some people don't always recognize it. They
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find hate speech to be something that they disagree with. They find hate speech
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to be, Hey, you made a joke about a trans person. That
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makes it hate speech. It makes them want to kill themselves. Therefore,
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if they kill themselves, it's your fault, right, That's what we've been
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told. We've been told that repeatedly. We've been told that putting something on
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your car that says I back the blue or Blue Lives Matter or anything of
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that nature is hate speech towards anyone who's ever been harassed or injured or killed
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by the police. Instead of, you know, maybe calling the people into
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account that were actually responsible for those things, maybe that would be the better
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way to handle it, is to call call that what it is. But
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people screaming for the genocide of the Jewish people on college campuses. I mean,
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when we start throwing around anything that's pro genocide, period, it should
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be considered hate speech, right. I don't think that's really hard to recognize.
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How did it become hard to recognize? How did I'm just I don't
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understand how did we get to this place? And if you can't defend someone's
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right to say things about why white supremacy is true. If someone wants to
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say that white supremacy is true, if someone wants to say black supremacy is
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true, whatever it is, without calling for the death of other people,
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and people say, oh, you can't say white supremacy things. I don't
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want to hear them. Most Americans don't want to hear them. But if
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we're going to offend someone's right to call for genocide, I would think just
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someone saying, hey, white people are better or black people are better,
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probably closer to protective free speech. Then let's kill all of these people so
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that these other people can have their land back, would be a bit more
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offensive. Shouldn't that be more offensive? Shouldn't the call for killing people be
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more offensive? I guess that's that's my question, and that's my frustration.
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now less than two weeks till Christmas, but yesterday was the official two week
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point, and that made yesterday a day that a lot of people break up.
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You know, anybody who broke up yesterday out of a relationship, ended
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a relationship, or split. December eleventh, yeah, known as breakup day,
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and it's the number one day of the year for breakups. And I
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guess it is largely because it's the two week point till Christmas. You don't
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want to get too close to Christmas. You seem like a bigger jerk if
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you do it like right at Christmas. I guess there's a feeling of it.
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It's like a two week notice before Christmas that you're letting folks know that
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you're winding things up. And this time of year tough for couples. According
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to a survey down seventy five percent of online daters have had break up sometime
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during the holiday season, and they say that pressure to be invited to holiday
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gatherings is part of it. A rush to commit over the holidays, gift
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giving anxiety, and relationship stress in general. Like I said, leading up
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right up to Christmas, you want to give that little gap of time before
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you get there. Thirty three percent of those surveys said they continue dating someone
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over the holidays only because they didn't want to be alone over the holidays.
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So I guess that's the flip side of the whole thing. If you're traveling
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to see your family over the holidays, that can be nice, but some
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say it's not really a vacation or it doesn't feel like it. A new
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survey says thirty four percent said they don't consider traveling home for the holidays as
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a vacation. Forty three percent said going home for Christmas makes them feel like
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they're a kid again and they're getting parented all over again. That can kind
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of be nostalgic though, right, I mean a little bit. Sixty percent
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said while they love visiting their friends and family over the holidays, they feel
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exhausted by the end of the trip. That's my about seventy one percent said
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that they need a vacation after the holidays so that they can try to unwind
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and relax. So cost of pizza is one of the things that has gone
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up thanks to inflation in this current bidnomics economy. They say now that the
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average price of a regular pizza has gone up to sixteen seventy four this according
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to the pizza delivery app called Slice. That's up more than a dollar from
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last year, and it's continued to rise over the past few years. The
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cost of ingredients and other materials are to blame. Making a pizza, you
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know, once upon a time. It's a pretty significant markup for pizza.
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Iss. She didn't know that the ingredients for pizza is not very much like
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the cost of it. It's in the way that they make it. Paraphrase
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a song. They make it, and if they make it in a way
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that tastes good, you tend to buy it. That's the way it normally
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works. That's why there's some places that are especially cheap. I don't tend
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to buy pizza from there unless I just need to buy a whole lot of
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pizza for people that aren't overly picky about it. But if I'm buying pizza
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for myself, I just think, even if it's really cheap, I could
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probably make it myself for less. We are more likely to buy ingredients and
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make our own pa Plus, we've got four people who like very different pizzas.
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That's the other Well, we have two that don't like them the way
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the other two of us do. Luke and I eat the same kind of
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stuff unless he wants mushrooms on his and I can't do that. I'm allergic.
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So there you go. Pizza prices have gone up more than a dollar
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from the last year, so just another thing impacted by this economy, so
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kids, you know, if they want to pick up one of the zeros
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and you think, well, they can have a zero, and then suddenly
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you realize, no, they're not drinking a zero. So that's the new
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trend maybe is to go in the other direction the alcohol heart Seltzer. Sure
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it's a big thing, and then suddenly going back the other way with it.
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