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- 0:00Eric: Let me just.
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: Let me just.
- 0:05Matt: What you got there?
- 0:06Eric: My uh two-liter Stanley Thermos just gonna top it.
- 0:11Eric: It's steamin'.
- 0:13Eric: Oh yeah, I gotta keep the water at a good uh 70 degrees Celsius, Matthew, uh to pour it over a nice steaming hot mate of yerba.
- 0:24Eric: Mate.
- 0:25Eric: Mate.
- 0:25Eric: Oh see, mate is the name of the cup and the herb itself.
- 0:30Eric: Wait, so what do you have there?
- 0:33Eric: I I I uh I think I had a mini quarter life crisis, so I decided at like 2 a.m.
- 0:40Eric: Uh-huh uh like a week ago that I wanted to try this Brazilian Argentinian uh Ecuadorian drink.
- 0:50Eric: It's like a tea, and you fill a giant gourd full of this this loose sleeve here.
- 0:57Eric: I'll hold it up to the camera for you so you can see it.
- 1:00Matt: Oh my gosh.
- 1:01Matt: Wait, hold on.
- 1:01Matt: Let it focus in.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:04Eric: Take it in.
- 1:04Matt: It what?
- 1:05Matt: It looks like bird seed.
- 1:07Eric: That's mate, baby.
- 1:09Eric: That's mate.
- 1:11Matt: You're it but you're drinking it out of a straw.
- 1:14Eric: Oh, you gotta drink it out of a bombillo.
- 1:16Eric: Out of a who?
- 1:18Eric: Out of a bombillo.
- 1:20Eric: Why?
- 1:20Eric: How did you become such a man of the world?
- 1:23Eric: What is but the filtered straw through which I drink my yerba mate?
- 1:26Eric: I cannot have the mate come up into my mouth like some sort of peasant.
- 1:31Matt: What?
- 1:32Matt: Of course not.
- 1:34Matt: What uh what does it taste like?
- 1:36Matt: It's very earthy.
- 1:38Matt: Um, grassy tones to it.
- 1:42Matt: It's very earthy.
- 1:43Matt: You know, whenever somebody says it tastes very earthy, I always feel like that's their polite way of saying, oh, it tastes like shit.
- 1:53Eric: Uh the fucked up thing is, I was about to say, I was literally about to say, it's an acquired taste.
- 1:59Matt: It oh yeah, the other classic, the other classic.
- 2:03Matt: You have to hate it for a while until your body gives in to the peer pressure you're putting it under to allow you to like it.
- 2:12Eric: You're not wrong.
- 2:13Matt: It's like IPAs.
- 2:15Matt: Oh, it is it is the IPA of tea.
- 2:18Matt: It's an acquired taste.
- 2:19Matt: Yeah, it is an acquired taste because it tastes like you're drinking filtered bark.
- 2:26Matt: So wait a minute.
- 2:27Matt: So, yeah, because that's what people say about like sorry, but healthy things when they're like, oh, it tastes so earthy.
- 2:35Matt: Yeah, well, what I see that I see someone Pac-Manning out in the going outside, put it face first down into the sod and just chomping down.
- 2:46Matt: That's what earthy tastes like to me.
- 2:48Eric: Now I will I now I will be clear.
- 2:50Eric: Okay.
- 2:51Eric: If you go to YouTube, you will find a lot of videos, a lot of channels about yerba mate, mostly made by weird white people, which is wild because this has not this beverage in the culture bind has nothing to do with white people.
- 3:07Eric: Um, but a lot of white people from California really love yerba mate.
- 3:13Eric: Uh and they'll talk about it about that you're helping its case, but well, I just want to be clear that I have like that this interest, like most interests that I have, I hate all the other people who do it.
- 3:26Eric: Um yeah, but you're fine though.
- 3:28Eric: I'm fine.
- 3:28Eric: I'm pure.
- 3:32Eric: But uh so they'll talk about how, like, oh yes, it's full of antioxidants, and it's very good for clean like the words, you know, cleanse get used a lot.
- 3:43Matt: Yeah, see, those are words that I don't like to hear about my intake.
- 3:49Eric: Yeah.
- 3:50Eric: And that's fair.
- 3:51Eric: I want to be clear, the reason I'm drinking this, and the reason ninety percent of the people who drink this across the world like drink it, is because it is a nice, good, fuck you dose of caffeine.
- 4:07Matt: I was just gonna say, it sounds like it uh gets you going in the morning, if you know what I'm trying to say.
- 4:17Eric: Oh.
- 4:18Eric: And it's like it's it's not a it's not like a a a crazy amount.
- 4:22Eric: It's like less caffeine than coffee, but mm significantly more than tea.
- 4:27Eric: So I get like borderline coffee energy, but I don't get all jittery.
- 4:33Matt: Okay, so this is gonna be one of those episodes where we have to pause so you can poop.
- 4:37Matt: Is that it?
- 4:38Eric: Most assuredly.
- 4:41Matt: Okay.
- 4:43Matt: All right, well, let's dig in then.
- 4:45Matt: Yep, yep, yep.
- 4:58Matt: And welcome back to You Didn't Ask For This.
- 5:02Matt: That's how I'm gonna say the name of the show from now on, maybe.
- 5:05Matt: Good.
- 5:05Matt: You didn't ask for this?
- 5:06Matt: You didn't ask for this.
- 5:07Matt: You didn't ask for this.
- 5:08Matt: Uh this is You Didn't Ask For This, uh, a podcast that uh answers all your uh least pressing questions, slash still needs a good tagline.
- 5:17Matt: My name's Matt Shea.
- 5:19Matt: My name's Eric Poach.
- 5:20Matt: Uh and Eric, for us, it's been a while.
- 5:24Matt: We it's been like it's been like three weeks, though, since we've uh we've spoken.
- 5:32Matt: How have you been?
- 5:34Matt: Oh.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: That's it.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: That's good.
- 5:39Matt: I'm glad to I'm glad that happened for you.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how about you, babe?
- 5:44Eric: Oh, mm-hmm.
- 5:48Eric: I feel like we've all just been going through a collective sigh of relief, shortly followed by a sharp intake of breath.
- 5:56Matt: Sort of like a uh Yeah, I feel like 2021, you know, we made it a six-day.
- 6:05Matt: If this was a factory, we made it six days without incident before the before the counter, you know, X days without terrorist attack.
- 6:15Matt: Well, we made it a whopping six days.
- 6:17Eric: It's the scene in the in the show slash movie where like there's a huge brawl on the factory floor and shit's exploding, and and like the janitor walks up and calmly resets the sign back to the city.
- 6:29Matt: Calmly resets that counter, yeah.
- 6:31Matt: That's that's the reality we're living in here today.
- 6:35Matt: Uh, but we are back uh and we've got a good lineup of questions.
- 6:41Matt: Still need those, by the way, of course.
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- 6:59Matt: YouTube.
- 7:00Matt: It's been a while.
- 7:05Matt: Anytime we fuck up, I'm just gonna swing in with that.
- 7:08Matt: We got a great lineup of questions for you today, don't we, Eric?
- 7:12Matt: Oh boy, howdy do we.
- 7:14Matt: Um, and uh what we Eric, what would you like to start with today?
- 7:20Eric: I would like to start with a question that immediately excited me and spoke to my soul.
- 7:26Eric: Uh, this is a question from Sarah Feldman.
- 7:30Matt: Good friend of the pod.
- 7:31Eric: Good friend of the pod.
- 7:33Eric: I feel like she'd be about that mate life.
- 7:35Eric: Hold on, let me just Oh god, what does Mate?
- 7:39SPEAKER_04: My god.
- 7:41Eric: In uh in Argentinian culture, it's actually uh not considered rude to get that good slurpey sound in there.
- 7:47Matt: Oh, is that true?
- 7:50Eric: The best part is I can just say whatever about Yerba mate culture, and you have no idea if I'm telling the truth.
- 7:56Eric: Um So the question.
- 7:59Matt: Yeah, but that's true with most things.
- 8:01Eric: Very true.
- 8:04Eric: Uh so the question from So the question the question from Sarah Feldman that really got uh got us going.
- 8:12Eric: Got my brain scrambling.
- 8:14Eric: Is the Kool-Aid Man full of blood or pee?
- 8:20Eric: And this is the shit I'm here for.
- 8:22Matt: This is what this podcast was made to answer.
- 8:26Matt: These types of questions that the world needs to know.
- 8:29Matt: Yep.
- 8:29Matt: Kool-Aid man.
- 8:31Matt: Blood or pea.
- 8:32Matt: So you know you know him, you know his form.
- 8:35Matt: He's that big ol' pitcher.
- 8:39Matt: Jolly.
- 8:40Matt: Would you describe him as jolly?
- 8:42Matt: I would describe describe him as confident for sure.
- 8:46Matt: Confident, bombastic.
- 8:47Matt: Bombastic.
- 8:48Matt: I think that's a good word, bombastic, because after all, his signature move is exploding things, is bursting through your home's walls and going, Oh yeah.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that was alright.
- 9:04Matt: I could be the Kool-Aid man.
- 9:06Matt: You're the Jolly Green Giant, but I'm the Kool-Aid man.
- 9:09Eric: Who voices the Kool-Aid man?
- 9:11Eric: And is that all they do?
- 9:14Matt: Uh I'm sure there have been multiple.
- 9:17Matt: We both just mash on this keyboard.
- 9:20Matt: So this the first thing that came up said played by Seth McFarlane.
- 9:24Matt: What?
- 9:25Matt: What?
- 9:26Eric: Oh no, that's gotta be from like a that's gotta be recent.
- 9:30Matt: Yes, there's been many.
- 9:31Matt: So Richard Berg was the first from 1974 to 1994.
- 9:35Matt: 20 years.
- 9:37Matt: Uh, and Seth McFarlane only plays him on Family Guide.
- 9:41Matt: Okay.
- 9:41Matt: So Google, you need to update your stuff.
- 9:43Matt: Brock Powell is the current voice of the Kool-Aid man.
- 9:48Eric: Yeah, Richard Berg, hereto referred to as Dick Berg, uh Dick Berg.
- 9:54Matt: Dick Berg twenty years.
- 9:58Matt: I mean, that's a long career, let alone for one I think just one phrase.
- 10:06Eric: Oh my god.
- 10:08Eric: Yeah, that's that's nuts.
- 10:11Eric: I'm also trying to find out more about his life.
- 10:14Matt: Dick Berg or the Kool-Aid Man?
- 10:16Matt: Dick Berg.
- 10:17Matt: Let's focus maybe on the Kool-Aid Man.
- 10:19Matt: Let's bring it on back home.
- 10:20Matt: We'll do a Dick Berg episode some other time.
- 10:23Eric: We will.
- 10:24Matt: So this is interesting.
- 10:25Matt: I didn't I thought in my perhaps this is the young uh millennial mindset of mine, but I am seeing that the first appearance of the Kool-Aid Man was July 10th, 1954 in prototype version.
- 10:39Matt: That's much older than I thought the Kool-Aid Man was.
- 10:42Eric: That is he's a baby boomer.
- 10:45Matt: Uh yeah, I don't like that.
- 10:48Eric: That actually explains so much.
- 10:53Eric: If you think about it.
- 10:55Matt: Uh okay, so uh the Kool-Aid Man.
- 10:59unknown: Yeah.
- 11:00Matt: P or blood.
- 11:01Matt: P or blood.
- 11:03Matt: So have we let's just say it outright.
- 11:07Matt: Have we ever seen the Kool-Aid Man empty?
- 11:12Eric: No, aside from like any parody, like family guy-esque situations or anything like that.
- 11:18Eric: Like, I don't think we've ever canonically seen the Kool-Aid man empty.
- 11:23Eric: We've seen him change.
- 11:25Eric: We've seen like the kid, if you remember, do you remember the Kool-Aid that changed colors when you put like pellets and shit in it?
- 11:31Eric: No, what are you talking about?
- 11:32Eric: Oh my god, dude, that was a thing.
- 11:33Eric: Like uh, oh, this would have been like late 90s.
- 11:36Eric: The Kool-Aid came with like little pellets, and you drop them in the like the Kool-Aid bottles, and it would change the color of the Kool-Aid.
- 11:44Matt: Okay, I gotta try this.
- 11:46Eric: And I guarantee that gave me some sort of display.
- 11:49Matt: Oh, are you referring to Kool-Aid Magic Tears?
- 11:53Eric: Yeah.
- 11:53Eric: Magic tears?
- 11:55Matt: I just found something called Kool-Aid Magic Tears.
- 12:01Eric: There's gonna be a lot of rabbit googling this episode, folks.
- 12:05Matt: Okay, so there's also a pop figure.
- 12:07Matt: That's notable.
- 12:08Matt: Kool-Aid Man pop figure.
- 12:10Matt: But here's the one thing I'm seeing across the board here.
- 12:14Matt: Kool-Aid Man always is red.
- 12:17Matt: I don't see any i I don't remember seeing any iteration of Kool-Aid Man as a different color.
- 12:25Matt: And I am not seeing any in a Google image search in a single frame.
- 12:30Matt: Every s even even for different flavored and colored Kool-Aids, he is still red.
- 12:37Matt: Do we uh that so are we to assume, I think we are to assume, that it is Kool-Aid that we're seeing in there.
- 12:44Eric: Yes, yes.
- 12:45Eric: The question is what is Kool-Aid to the Kool-Aid man?
- 12:48Matt: What is Kool-Aid to the Kool-Aid man?
- 12:50Eric: And I and the the implications of either answer here are pretty horrifying.
- 12:55Eric: Pretty horrifying.
- 12:57Matt: Talk me through it.
- 12:58Eric: Uh, okay, so implication one, and I feel like the knee-jerk reaction most people will go with blood.
- 13:05Eric: Because it's red, it's filling his body.
- 13:08Matt: Here's the thing Kool-Aid man, it's Kool-Aid.
- 13:11Eric: He is actively giving his this liquid to children.
- 13:20Matt: Uh-huh.
- 13:20Eric: And here's my other question.
- 13:22Eric: Do okay.
- 13:22Eric: Do we ever I I know?
- 13:26Matt: Oh, yes.
- 13:27Eric: Let's go down this dark and twisted path.
- 13:30Matt: Uh you have let us down.
- 13:33Matt: Oh no.
- 13:34Matt: Yeah.
- 13:34Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 13:36Eric: Oh yeah.
- 13:36Eric: Okay.
- 13:37Matt: Ugh, I hated the more.
- 13:39Matt: Let's get into it.
- 13:41Matt: Say it out loud.
- 13:42Eric: Do we ever see the children drinking from the Kool-Aid man directly?
- 13:49Eric: Do we ever see him like tipping his fucking noggin and filling a glass?
- 13:53Eric: Or does he I feel like he just always has the Kool-Aid prepared?
- 13:58Matt: I don't, yeah, I don't ever see we've never seen him sitting down with the mixture.
- 14:04Matt: He doesn't burst through the the wall going, oh yeah, and then say, Hold on, kids, let me just mix up this real quick.
- 14:12Matt: Rip open the packet, and anyone got a spoon?
- 14:15Matt: Don't give it a Yeah, we don't see any of the prep.
- 14:19Matt: So he always comes in loaded, you know, ready.
- 14:22Matt: He's got those pictures and he's like, or the like uh Capri Sun knockoff juice box situation.
- 14:30SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 14:30Matt: You know, he's got he's ready to go.
- 14:32Matt: He came prepared when he burst through your foyer.
- 14:37Eric: So he had it so okay.
- 14:38Eric: Oh fuck.
- 14:39Eric: The more see, I'm thinking about the sound you're hearing, it's me like unfolding the various like things that could be at play here.
- 14:46Eric: So my initial thing.
- 14:48Matt: Right now, uh what I'm seeing, folks, is Eric turn into that meme from Always Sunny with Charlie Day in front of the conspiracy map.
- 14:57Eric: Okay, so I'll take you down the first path, my brand.
- 15:00Eric: If it's blood, that means this is some sort of he is giving his blood to children to drink in that like some sort of weird vampire situation.
- 15:10Eric: But then I was thinking, well, no, it could be part of some dark ritual that keeps the Kool-Aid Man alive, like the like drinking his blood.
- 15:20Eric: And then I came around to the conclusion, Kool-Aid Man could be a metaphor.
- 15:29Eric: Okay.
- 15:30Eric: For Jesus.
- 15:31Eric: For Jesus! Take this and drink of it.
- 15:35Eric: For it is my blood.
- 15:37Eric: Oh dear.
- 15:38Eric: Yeah, I know.
- 15:40Eric: I know.
- 15:40Matt: The cool you are put you so you propose that not only is it blood, but it is the blood of Christ.
- 15:47Eric: Yeah.
- 15:48Eric: Well, what okay.
- 15:50Eric: It's a metaphor, but maybe.
- 15:53Matt: Okay, so just a metaphor, not literal.
- 15:57Matt: Yep.
- 15:58Matt: Okay.
- 15:59Matt: So that's that's you're just implying that the the Kool-Aid Corporation is is interested in pushing Christianity upon the world.
- 16:10Eric: Yes, and and Okay, okay.
- 16:12Matt: I don't discount it.
- 16:14Eric: So well, basically what I'm getting, Matt, is is he saying oh yeah, or is he actually saying oh yeah?
- 16:24Matt: Oh no, come on.
- 16:26Matt: Oh yeah.
- 16:27Matt: No, he's not saying oh yeah.
- 16:29Matt: Because you can it you can you you have ears, and you you have ears, and you can hear what he says.
- 16:37Matt: He says, oh yeah.
- 16:39Matt: He doesn't say, oh yeah.
- 16:42Matt: Like he doesn't fade out.
- 16:43Matt: He comes in confident, he comes in bombastic, he bursts through your brick wall that you apparently must have, and he comes in and he says, Oh, the wall of sin to come into your house, aka your heart.
- 16:59Matt: Okay, all right.
- 17:00Matt: I I'm not saying that you you haven't struck gold with this hypothesis.
- 17:05Matt: I'm not saying that at all.
- 17:07Matt: I like it quite a bit.
- 17:08Matt: But let me let me ask you this.
- 17:11Matt: What is the case for P?
- 17:13Eric: Alright, well, the case for P, and actually, scientifically speaking, I feel like it is if we had to choose, if we had to choose, like scientifically speaking, ignoring all the other elephants in the room, you know, anatomy-wise, the closest thing that the Kool-Aid in him comes to is like he's excreting it.
- 17:39Eric: Like P is excrete, it's dr you know, it's water that you've drank, and you know, you're excreting it.
- 17:45Eric: Kool-Aid is drank, you eventually excrete it.
- 17:49Matt: Again, thank you for the biology lesson.
- 17:51Eric: Yes, I don't know by what dark eldritch machinations his body fluid is made into Kool-Aid.
- 18:01Matt: Yeah, we don't see a lot of his personal life, do we?
- 18:04Matt: We only see him at work.
- 18:05Eric: I feel like I've gotten more about I I've learned more about the life and times of like Mr.
- 18:10Eric: Peanut in the past year than I've known about Kool-Aid Man my entire life.
- 18:15Matt: We've gone on a whole journey with Mr.
- 18:17Matt: Peanut.
- 18:17Eric: My God.
- 18:18Matt: But Kool-Aid Man has been the same old shtick over and over again, I feel like.
- 18:25Matt: We he hasn't gotten a a a backstory.
- 18:29Eric: No.
- 18:30Matt: But here's here's a case against blood.
- 18:32Matt: When he bursts through the wall, that Kool-Aid is constantly splashing out of the top of his head.
- 18:40Matt: It is.
- 18:41Matt: If it was blood, it would wouldn't this cause wouldn't he be in pain if he's losing his his life support at all times?
- 18:50Matt: Yeah.
- 18:52Matt: So I think he that's a case for P because it's just splashing out of him with no and he seemingly is unaware.
- 19:00Eric: Yeah, it's his excited sweats.
- 19:02Matt: Yeah, but the but Sarah did not give us uh the option of sweat.
- 19:06Matt: Yeah.
- 19:06Matt: She she's narrowed it down to it is either blood or pea.
- 19:10Eric: Yeah, and the closest we can come to either of these answers, like if we're like, oh, it's sweat, but the but our options are pea or blood, I feel like that's closer to the P category.
- 19:20Matt: I feel like that tips the needle towards P if you think of it as waste.
- 19:25Eric: His alias, and I just wanna I just wanna let you know this.
- 19:29Eric: Apparently in Canada, the Kool-Aid Man's alias is Captain Kool-Aid.
- 19:34Eric: So he holds rank.
- 19:36Matt: Okay, right out the gate, Canada's doing it better.
- 19:39Matt: Because Captain Kool-Aid sounds a lot better than the Kool-Aid Man.
- 19:43Eric: Yes.
- 19:45Eric: And also, it there is no the.
- 19:48Eric: His title is Kool-Aid Man.
- 19:50Matt: Oh, so it's not the Kool-Aid Man.
- 19:53Matt: Nope, just Kool-Aid.
- 19:55Eric: Which makes Kool-Aid Man, that okay.
- 19:57Matt: So that's a generic name.
- 19:59Matt: That's somebody saying, Oh, it was it was a Kool-Aid Man that robbed me.
- 20:04Matt: I didn't get a good look at him, but he looked like a Kool-Aid man.
- 20:08Eric: It also somewhat implies that he's like a superhero.
- 20:11Eric: Kool-Aid Man.
- 20:13unknown: Mm-mm.
- 20:14Eric: Did you just sing that to the Trojan Man, the condom theme song?
- 20:18Matt: I sure did.
- 20:20Matt: Kool Aid man.
- 20:21Matt: I wasn't aware that I did, but it definitely is the Trojan Man theme song, yes.
- 20:26Matt: Uh.
- 20:27Matt: Which, I have to say, I feel like subconsciously indicates P over.
- 20:34Matt: I it is I'll give it to you.
- 20:37Eric: It is, you know, in that neighborhood.
- 20:40Eric: So Kool-Aid man, grown-ass Kool-Aid man, pissing in glasses and passing it out to the masses.
- 20:52Matt: Oh man.
- 20:53Matt: Okay, I think we've settled it.
- 20:55Eric: Oh, what?
- 20:56Eric: Oh, hold up.
- 20:57Matt: Have you made it have you made a discovery?
- 20:59Eric: Uh yep.
- 21:01Eric: Okay.
- 21:02Eric: So uh on the Wikipedia article, this very question has been discussed.
- 21:07Eric: According to Wikipedia, many consumers have reported confusion regarding the Kool-Aid man's bodily Kool-Aid and how it contributes to his life force.
- 21:16Eric: The confusion was marginally cleared on Twitter when a user asked the Kool-Aid man whether his Kool-Aid represented blood or urine.
- 21:26Eric: The Kool-Aid man answered one sentence, it is my blood, but offered no further details about how that works.
- 21:38Eric: He came back, yo.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: He is risen.
- 21:45Matt: Okay, so alright.
- 21:47Matt: So if the Kool-Aid man himself has responded on Twitter.
- 21:50Matt: It is my blood.
- 21:52Matt: It and he and what he said is it is my blood.
- 21:56Matt: Which is, I have to say, I have to admit.
- 22:00Matt: Undeniably Jesus S.
- 22:06Matt: Oh shit.
- 22:08Matt: I think not only is the implication here that it is his blood, or perhaps, because it is Kool-Aid, because he is Kool-Aid man, but he says it is his blood, I think that is the implication that he has taken the Kool-Aid, which is basically water, and turned it into blood.
- 22:36Matt: So not only is it blood, he's Jesus.
- 22:42Eric: Fuck me sideways.
- 22:44Eric: And and it it's the quote, it is my blood.
- 22:48Eric: If he had just said it's my blood, it would be one thing.
- 22:53Eric: But if because he uncontracted It's my blood.
- 22:56Eric: It is my blood.
- 22:58Eric: Take of it and drink of it.
- 23:02Matt: Oh man shit.
- 23:04Matt: Okay, well, praise be to the Kool-Aid man.
- 23:07Matt: Praise be.
- 23:08Matt: And also with you.
- 23:09Matt: And also with you.
- 23:11Matt: And with your Mondo.
- 23:13Matt: And speaking of.
- 23:17Matt: Hold on, I'm still stuck on pissing in glasses and passing it out to the masses.
- 23:24Matt: That was a that was a good one, Poach.
- 23:28Matt: Thank you.
- 23:29Matt: Okay.
- 23:30Matt: So let's keep on the red theme for a minute.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, yes.
- 23:34Matt: And transition to another question.
- 23:36Matt: Uh this one comes from a.lexalee on Instagram.
- 23:41Matt: And she asks, in the Wizard of Oz, where does the red brick road lead?
- 23:49Matt: This is another popular question that has plagued our certainly the world for decades at this point.
- 23:58Matt: We are not the first to tackle it.
- 24:00Matt: We will, of course, be the ones to to answer it.
- 24:03Eric: Yeah, yeah.
- 24:04Matt: Definitely.
- 24:05Eric: And I feel like this is another one where uh so I've done some advanced work.
- 24:13Eric: Now, Matt, one second.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: I just gotta let me just I just gotta refresh my Yerba.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: This can't be a good one.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: I just gotta sorry.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: I just when you're on that that mate life.
- 24:22Matt: Oh my god.
- 24:22Matt: First of all, it looks like you're unscrewing a container that contains the plutonium that the the Doc and Marty are using to put into the Delore.
- 24:33Matt: That's what your canteen looks like.
- 24:35Matt: Your your uh not canteen, your uh thermos.
- 24:39Eric: Yes, correct.
- 24:40Eric: This is my Stanley Thermos that contains the lifeblood of my Yerba Your Stanley Thermos.
- 24:46Matt: What are you going to work in a mine?
- 24:52Matt: Uh all right.
- 24:55Matt: So the red brick road.
- 24:56Matt: How did you get the black lung, Pop?
- 24:58Matt: Where were you working?
- 25:00Matt: Were you working down in the caves?
- 25:01Matt: I drank too much yerba mate, my son.
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: I was working on my podcast, my boy.
- 25:10Matt: So the red brick road.
- 25:12Matt: So the red brick road, according to uh fandom, uh, as I turned to for many a thing.
- 25:19Matt: Oh, is there canonically a red brick road?
- 25:21Matt: Yeah, okay.
- 25:22Matt: First of all, Eric, do we need to pause so we can watch the Wizard of Oz?
- 25:26Matt: Wait, there was a is there mention of a red brick road in Wizard of Oz?
- 25:31Matt: As I recall, it's not specifically, it's not mentioned in the film.
- 25:35Matt: But when Dorothy is setting out on the follow the yellow brick road moment of the movie, there is I'm gonna educate you.
- 25:43Matt: Hold on, let me share my screen.
- 25:44Eric: Sorry, I'm putting I'm I am stepping back and I am opening my heart.
- 25:51Matt: All right.
- 25:52Matt: This is the scene.
- 25:55Matt: So you've got this spiral situation where the there is a yellow brick road that spirals out, and she, of course, follows it to her adventures and and the doom of the wicked witch.
- 26:07Matt: However, there's also this inverse red my brain always saw that as like negative space.
- 26:15Matt: As negative space.
- 26:16Matt: So and and many people uh many people feel as you do, that it is just the absence of the ri of the yellow brick road.
- 26:27Eric: However, oh, this is gonna get dark.
- 26:30Matt: In the officially licensed Wizard of Oz Facebook game, again, officially licensed, the red brick road spirals out of the yellow brick road as seen in the film, and it it it can be built in any direction out of Munchkinland.
- 26:50Matt: So I guess you're building Oz to some extent.
- 26:53Matt: Okay, and typically it goes in the general direction of Glinda's Castle.
- 26:57Matt: That's what it says on Fandom.
- 27:00Matt: However, also officially licensed merch, the in the marvelous map of Oz, the road is the main connecting road from Munchkin Village to Munchkin Land.
- 27:13Matt: And it goes from the Lollipop Guild's place, the uh the Lullaby League's place, the coroner's the coroner's office?
- 27:22Matt: They have a coroner?
- 27:23Eric: Oh yeah, it's a dude who pronounced the wit the wit the witch of the east.
- 27:26Matt: Right fucking dead dead as a doornail.
- 27:30Matt: They definitely needed someone who's licensed to make that proclamation.
- 27:35Matt: Man so qualified he can sing that you're dead.
- 27:38Matt: Man, there's a house sauna, so that doesn't bode well.
- 27:43Matt: Um and everywhere else in Munchkin Village.
- 27:46Matt: So i I'm looking at a little map of it.
- 27:49Matt: Basically, it's just the uh it's just the road in Munchkin Village in Munchkin Village.
- 27:54Eric: How adorable is that little map.
- 27:56Matt: It's pretty adorable.
- 27:57Matt: You want to take a look?
- 27:58Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 27:58Matt: Show me that map.
- 27:59Matt: And we'll uh we'll throw this up on the uh the Instagram as well.
- 28:03Matt: Um, that's precious.
- 28:06Eric: Okay.
- 28:07Eric: So it just kind of goes and stops at the cor.
- 28:10Eric: Okay, but that actually gives Okay, this is giving me thoughts.
- 28:15SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
- 28:16Eric: So, oh boy, oh boy.
- 28:19Eric: Oh boy.
- 28:20Matt: All right.
- 28:20Matt: Here we go.
- 28:21Matt: Get out.
- 28:22Matt: Get out the yarn, because he's going down a conspiracy.
- 28:26Eric: So notice how in the map the red brick road starts at the center of the village, aka the heart of the village, right?
- 28:34Matt: Oh boy, here we go.
- 28:35Eric: And then it spirals out.
- 28:37Eric: Matt, it and and and it, you know, this is like the center of this little munchy metropolis.
- 28:44Matt: Coach, I see where you hit it.
- 28:45Eric: Okay.
- 28:46Eric: It ends in one place, and that's the coroner's office.
- 28:50Eric: But the red brick road, and it I'll tell you this, Matt, it doesn't stop there.
- 28:55Eric: But it's yes, it does stop there.
- 28:59Matt: No, it doesn't.
- 29:00Matt: Oh no.
- 29:01Matt: So not only are you about to try to purport to me that it's not uh that the red brick is just painted in blood.
- 29:08SPEAKER_04: I'm not nothing that group tests.
- 29:10SPEAKER_04: Let me guess.
- 29:11Matt: Hold on.
- 29:11Matt: Let me guess.
- 29:12Matt: Let me guess the mind of Eric Pooch.
- 29:14Matt: It goes into, it flows down the brick path that goes into the coroner's office, staining everything with the lifeblood of what exactly?
- 29:22Matt: Where is this, where's the blood coming from?
- 29:24Matt: That's question one.
- 29:25Matt: But hold on.
- 29:26Matt: It goes into the coroner's office, and then what?
- 29:29Matt: There's a drainage system in there that it's just seeping underneath the land of us.
- 29:34Matt: It's just going under the hills and valleys and and and all the trees are in fact full of blood, and everything's blood.
- 29:41Matt: Everything in the world is blood.
- 29:42SPEAKER_00: Is that what you're trying to tell me, Eric?
- 29:46Matt: Get that tea out of your mouth right now.
- 29:49Eric: What I'm saying, Matt.
- 29:51Eric: And and I it doesn't have to be grotesque.
- 29:55Eric: Many cultures view death as a beautiful journey.
- 30:00Eric: Oh god.
- 30:01Eric: And the munchk do we have okay.
- 30:04Eric: Do is it ever established that the munchkins have a religion, that they have a spiritual thing?
- 30:15Matt: The question now that that is on the official merch.
- 30:20Matt: Okay.
- 30:22Matt: Before we go too deep down the side tangent of why the red brick road is red, I think the answer is paint.
- 30:32Matt: But before we go too far down.
- 30:34Eric: I don't think it's colored in actual blood, because then it would be the brown brick road.
- 30:39Eric: Oh god.
- 30:41Matt: Well, maybe it gets refreshed.
- 30:44Matt: Fresh coat.
- 30:45Matt: Okay.
- 30:46Matt: Which is blood.
- 30:47Matt: Now, so that's from the official merch, but we don't actually see any of that in the film.
- 30:53Eric: No.
- 30:54Matt: So if if we assume that the licensed merch maybe has taken the shortcut of not really thinking about the red brick road.
- 31:04Matt: A liberty or two.
- 31:05Matt: Let's just say that they said, what an idiot's gonna wonder where the red brick road goes.
- 31:12Matt: Let's say for arguments sake it goes off in another direction.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:16Matt: Where do we think it goes in that circumstance?
- 31:20Eric: So the yellow brick road has a definite, concrete beginning and end.
- 31:29Eric: So my pitch to you, Matthew.
- 31:33Eric: Because you mentioned across these, you know, we'll call them extended universe sources.
- 31:40Eric: Uh the red brick road goes to like it, you know, it it contradicts itself.
- 31:45Eric: Like in one setting it goes here, another setting it goes there.
- 31:49Eric: I think the red brick road is a road that one forges for themselves.
- 31:57Matt: Okay.
- 31:59Eric: It is a road not of destiny, but of will that can take you where thou wilt.
- 32:09Eric: And it is a road paved in blood.
- 32:13Matt: Oh Lord.
- 32:14Matt: Drink your tea and calm down.
- 32:17Matt: You are in a that was today.
- 32:20Matt: That was the Yerba talking.
- 32:22Eric: God.
- 32:23Matt: Okay, so we've got a bloody road.
- 32:25Eric: Got a bloody road.
- 32:26Matt: That uh that leads out.
- 32:29Matt: Now, in in your It doesn't have to be bloody.
- 32:32Eric: In some cultures, red signifies purity.
- 32:35Matt: Okay, so okay.
- 32:37Matt: So this chaste road goes goes off.
- 32:43Matt: And what?
- 32:44Matt: It manifests as you walk?
- 32:46Matt: Is that your hypothesis?
- 32:49Eric: Yo, but it could represent like hard work and like determin.
- 32:54Eric: The yellow brick road, you're just following the path that has been laid for you.
- 32:58Eric: You it's it's very uh deterministic.
- 33:01Eric: Is that the word I'm looking for?
- 33:03Matt: So the red brick road is full of challenges.
- 33:07Matt: Yeah, obstacles.
- 33:09Eric: Obstacles that you have chosen.
- 33:11Eric: Because it's gonna be hard.
- 33:13Eric: The yellow brick road, you know, everyone knows what that deal's about.
- 33:15Eric: You're gonna run in some asshole trees, they're gonna throw apples at you, you're gonna run into that.
- 33:19Matt: Is that why is that why the Munchkins are so eager to have Dorothy and Toto follow the yellow brick road?
- 33:29Matt: Because they don't even mention the red brick road.
- 33:32Eric: No, I think they're terrified of it.
- 33:33Matt: I think I think they don't want to see what lies beyond Munchkin Land.
- 33:38Eric: I think that the red brick road gives me some of the ones who walk away from Omelas vibes.
- 33:44Eric: Mm-hmm.
- 33:44Eric: Are you familiar with that story?
- 33:46Matt: I sure am not.
- 33:47Matt: Oh, it's super.
- 33:48Eric: I'm I'm I'm eager to learn.
- 33:50Eric: Uh the the basic pitch, it's a really good, it's a short story.
- 33:54Eric: It's a really good short story about like this utopian society called Omelas.
- 34:01Eric: And you learn, and the more I talk this episode, the more I realize I sound like a fucking sovereign citizen.
- 34:08Eric: Um the ones who walk away from Omelos, Omelos is this utopian society where everything is perfect, but then you discover that like the coming of age ritual for people who live in Omelas is they have to go to this building where they're all led into this basement.
- 34:30Eric: Yeah.
- 34:31Eric: And they see this child in the basement, and the kid is malnourished, he is beaten, he is neglected, he is not loved, he is he is scorned and and just abandoned by everyone, and he is like immortal, and he will always be suffering, and that is the price they pay for utopia in omelas.
- 34:52Eric: Man, you are just a beacon of positivity on the and the ones who walk away from omelas are the ones who cannot accept this as the price that must be paid for utopia, so they choose to walk away.
- 35:07Eric: And I believe the red brick road is the road that the ones The Munchkins they have seen the munchkins they have seen behind the veil, Matthew.
- 35:19Eric: Oh no, they know they have seen, they have chosen not to ignore the man behind the curtain.
- 35:27Matt: Oh no.
- 35:28Matt: They are the wise, learned munchkins who then set out to blaze their own trail.
- 35:34Matt: Oh, I want to be clear here.
- 35:36Eric: They all all the munchkins know.
- 35:38Matt: But only some, only some are brave questions have refused to remain complicit.
- 35:46Matt: Oh.
- 35:47Matt: So everyone else, so you're suggesting that every that the munchkins who remain in munchkin land are simply sheeple.
- 35:57Eric: Yes, they all belong to guilds.
- 35:59Eric: They all belong, they all belong, they all have a place for every person, every person in their place.
- 36:08SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 36:09Matt: Yep.
- 36:10Matt: Okay, so uh I think so so lay it down for us, Eric.
- 36:15Matt: What is the definition in the Mirian Webster for the Red Brick Road?
- 36:19Eric: It leads to becoming a sovereign citizen.
- 36:24Eric: Think about it! They're no longer residents of fucking Munchkin Land.
- 36:29Eric: They they decide what laws and what prices they will pay.
- 36:35Eric: Honest to God, I think walking down the red brick road is is because you know what they never talk about.
- 36:40Matt: So Munchkin Land's a cult, is what you're saying.
- 36:42Matt: The Munchkins are a cult.
- 36:43Matt: Well, the lollipop guild is a cult.
- 36:46Eric: Oh yeah.
- 36:47Eric: Oh yeah.
- 36:47Eric: Oh, this goes all the way to the top.
- 36:49Eric: Oh yeah.
- 36:49Eric: Oh, Matt, I guess you could say they're drinking the Kool-Aid?
- 36:54Eric: Now, wait a minute.
- 36:56Matt: Wait a minute.
- 36:58Matt: You have touched a nerve as someone who recently read an exhaustive history of people's temple.
- 37:04Matt: Oh, the Jonestown?
- 37:06Matt: Yeah.
- 37:07Matt: So I you might want to cut this whole section, but I'm gonna This is your Charlie moment.
- 37:13Eric: Gimme point at me with that cigarette.
- 37:16Matt: First of all, I hate to be a well actually person.
- 37:20Eric: Are you about to tell me it's not a mass suicide, it's a mass murder?
- 37:23Eric: Well, it is a mass murder.
- 37:24Eric: It is a mass murder.
- 37:25Eric: That's just a fact.
- 37:26Eric: That's just a note.
- 37:27Matt: No, the well actually moment is it was not Kool-Aid.
- 37:32Eric: It was not Kool-Aid.
- 37:34Matt: Somebody just said that on the news, and people are now saying don't drink the Kool-Aid, when in fact, what was actually the case are these poor people were forcing this to flavor aid, is what it was.
- 37:48Eric: Hey Matt, are you saying they all died because they followed a false prophet of flavor aid?
- 37:53Eric: Thou shalt not worship false idols, Matthew.
- 37:57Eric: This is getting to be a very religious attention.
- 38:00Eric: This is getting to be very dark.
- 38:01Eric: And I want to be clear that I do have the utmost respect for all people of faith, and this is all in good fun, he said as they joked about the Jonestown massacre.
- 38:10Matt: I didn't joke about it.
- 38:12Matt: I respected it for the tragedy that it was.
- 38:14Matt: Only you and your matcha tea were talking down to the victims of People's Temple.
- 38:22Eric: Yerba about to bark up the wrong tree.
- 38:29Matt: Okay, okay.
- 38:30Matt: We got to get this thing back on show.
- 38:32Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:32Matt: Back on week let's get this back on the separate.
- 38:35Matt: Um man, before we before we form our own cult accidentally.
- 38:41Eric: I could write, I want to write an entire novel about the the the the the folk of Oz who walk away from from Munchkin Land.
- 38:50Matt: I think I can't uh well it's we could we could we could we could go at it together.
- 38:56Matt: We could we could write that ourselves.
- 38:58Matt: Now uh so Eric, uh I this has been a pretty blood-filled episode so far.
- 39:05Matt: And I think we've got one more bloody question.
- 39:09Matt: We do to put it.
- 39:10Eric: We got one more in the chamber.
- 39:11Eric: You want to lay it on me?
- 39:12Eric: So, Matthew, the question from I'm just gonna go ahead and say it, one of our fans?
- 39:19Eric: One of our fans.
- 39:21Eric: And when I say fan, I mean someone who is not a friend of me or Matt and therefore obligated to tell us they like our fucking podcast.
- 39:30Eric: That's right.
- 39:30Eric: This dude just doesn't know us from Adam and likes our podcast.
- 39:37Eric: So huge shout out to drummer CK for the following question.
- 39:42Eric: If a vampire bites a zombie, or vice versa, which one turns?
- 39:49Matt: Ooh, this is juicy.
- 39:51Matt: So now let's think about this.
- 39:53Matt: So a a vampire is going to specifically go after the neck, right?
- 39:58Matt: I don't know.
- 39:59Matt: Of the vampires I've encountered, they don't go for other sections of the body.
- 40:04Matt: They just go for the neck.
- 40:06Matt: Go for the neck.
- 40:07Matt: Yeah, I yeah, okay.
- 40:08Matt: But a zombie.
- 40:11Matt: The zombie is just going anywhere.
- 40:13Eric: Got a lot of real estate.
- 40:14Eric: But the and I feel like there's an it okay.
- 40:17Eric: I feel like there's like a uh uh an inversely proportional relationship here between like intelligence level and uh where they gotta bite.
- 40:26Eric: Vampire, hyper intelligent, has to bite a specific spot.
- 40:31Eric: Zombie, dumb as a box of rock.
- 40:33Eric: Yeah, dumb as a box of rock can just bite anywhere.
- 40:35Eric: So I feel like that puts them about like now.
- 40:38Matt: I feel like I I feel like my initial gut reaction is to say that the advantage goes to the uh zombie.
- 40:46Eric: That in terms of like who gets the hit in?
- 40:50Matt: Yes, my my gut reaction is to say that the that the advantage goes to the zombie because the zombie is just going for whatever they can access first.
- 40:59Matt: They're gonna bite, they're gonna chomp, and theoretically, they're going to turn you.
- 41:04Matt: Now, on the other hand, the vampire is after a vein specifically.
- 41:12Matt: Yep.
- 41:12Matt: So I think we are to I think we are to learn that if if they don't actually access, I guess it's the jugular that they usually go for.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: The jugular.
- 41:22Matt: So if they're not going for the jugular, if they don't get the jugular, yeah, does the per what do you think, maybe this is a biology question.
- 41:30Matt: What do you think is the property that has so we know that the zombie has an infection, and if they are bitten by it, you get the infection and you become a zombie.
- 41:39Eric: Yeah.
- 41:39Eric: If we're going with like uh, you know, like a like a uh a modern dawn of the dead or a you know 28 days later cocktail.
- 41:48Eric: Technically not zombies and 28 days later.
- 41:51Eric: We're I so okay, so I'm guessing we're not go we're we're staying we're straying away from like the the traditional like the voodoo zombie.
- 41:59Matt: Yes, yes, I think so.
- 42:01Matt: I think this is I think the implication here is the uh the mass market zombie if you of horror the Funko Pop zombie.
- 42:11Matt: The Funko Pop zombie, if you will.
- 42:14Matt: So they have an infection, they bite you, you get the infection.
- 42:17Matt: The vampire, on the other hand, is not dead.
- 42:22Matt: They are undead.
- 42:24Eric: They are undead, they also do not have blood.
- 42:27Eric: So by what vehicle would that infection be carried?
- 42:31Matt: Whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean?
- 42:32Matt: Is that true?
- 42:33Matt: Vampires don't.
- 42:34Matt: Yeah, man, that's why they're pale and cold.
- 42:36Eric: They don't have blood.
- 42:37Matt: So they so but what what happens to the blood they're drinking?
- 42:40Eric: They are sanguine.
- 42:43Eric: That was a bad joke.
- 42:45Eric: So trying to go like sans blah, but like sanguine.
- 42:48Eric: Okay.
- 42:49Matt: So wait, they drink this blood.
- 42:51Eric: Yeah.
- 42:52Matt: Goes to their tomtum.
- 42:54Matt: So they just pee it out like the Kool-Aid man.
- 42:56Eric: Yeah.
- 42:57Eric: Is the Kool-Aid man a man?
- 42:58Matt: Is the man a vampire?
- 43:00SPEAKER_01: Ah!
- 43:01Matt: Now we've really tied the episode together in a bow.
- 43:04SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 43:05Matt: I don't think so.
- 43:06Matt: Now, the uh to just to just put that out there, I think we can say that he's because we don't see the Kool-Aid man by We can't answer a question within my fucking question is what happens when he opens his mouth and why doesn't Kool-Aid just spill out?
- 43:20Eric: That's a goddamn good question.
- 43:23Matt: And now it's gonna fuck with asking questions within questions.
- 43:27Matt: So the bloodless vampire that I've now I've just learned don't have blood.
- 43:34Matt: They is that really true?
- 43:37Matt: Google it.
- 43:38Eric: Notice how I'm making the claim I'm making Matt do the research.
- 43:43Eric: I mean, I always assumed that's why they're like pale as hell and cold and they don't have a pulse.
- 43:48Matt: Okay, this person on Quara says actually, yes, in a way.
- 43:57Matt: In a way, their body cannot generate any blood.
- 44:00Matt: Component that is why they feed on human blood to keep the working of their own body.
- 44:05Matt: Nobody can work without blood in their body, human body.
- 44:09Matt: Their body is first of all, they gotta stop saying body so much.
- 44:14Matt: Their body was just like ours before they were vampires.
- 44:17Matt: So their body, wrong use of their, is just like ours, which cannot work without blood.
- 44:24Matt: That doesn't answer anything, Amon Sch, who has an MBA from Amity Business School.
- 44:32Matt: They put that in their name.
- 44:34Matt: It is really hard to find an answer to this question.
- 44:37Matt: Which isn't even the question, so maybe we should abandon it.
- 44:40Eric: Okay.
- 44:40Matt: Okay, so let's let's push that all aside.
- 44:43Eric: Alright.
- 44:44Matt: Let's just go with the claim that they don't have to.
- 44:46Eric: Now, also, I guess my other question here is this also flavors a lot of it.
- 44:50Eric: Uh flavor aid, if you will.
- 44:53Eric: Uh Dra is are we dealing with a Dracula vampire?
- 45:00Matt: Or like Well, is Dracula not the template for all Dracula?
- 45:07Eric: They're, you know, the years 2001 to 2000 and like 15 would like a word with you.
- 45:15Eric: Why?
- 45:16SPEAKER_00: Say it, Matthew.
- 45:18unknown: Twilight.
- 45:20Matt: Oh, I said the template for all future vampires.
- 45:24Matt: That's like the original vampires, what I'm trying to say.
- 45:26Matt: Oh.
- 45:28Matt: First of all, if you I I I just want to say.
- 45:31Matt: I just want to come out.
- 45:33Matt: If you took all of the vampires that pop up in Twilight versus the Dracula, I think I think he wins that battle.
- 45:45Matt: Oh, he'd murder them.
- 45:46Eric: He'd murder them.
- 45:47Eric: He'd murder them.
- 45:48Eric: Well that well, so what I'm getting at is Dracula has supernatural powers.
- 45:53Eric: Yeah.
- 45:54Eric: He has, and I believe he can be able to be able to be able to turn into a bat.
- 45:56Eric: He can turn into a bat.
- 45:58Eric: I believe he has command of the undead, which puts him at a significant advantage here.
- 46:05Eric: Yes.
- 46:06Eric: And and that's why I want to talk about.
- 46:08Matt: I feel like the way- So, but but that that's that's the original point I was trying to make.
- 46:12Matt: He has super natural powers, he is classified as undead, whereas the the zombie, the popular zombie, is just dead.
- 46:23Eric: Yeah.
- 46:24Matt: Right?
- 46:25Eric: They're a partially animatedly classified as undead.
- 46:28Eric: Like when you are biologically dead but locomotive, you are undead.
- 46:33Matt: Exactly.
- 46:33Matt: Like they're they their brains are gone, their souls are gone, but their body still is animated.
- 46:41Eric: And Dracula, I believe, does not possess a soul.
- 46:44Matt: No.
- 46:44Matt: Well, neither do zombies anymore.
- 46:46Eric: Yeah, I know.
- 46:47Eric: That's so I'm I what I'm getting at here, and and kind of like the angle I was approaching this question from is I don't think the question is like if we just stick them in a room, who who bites who first.
- 46:56Eric: But my question is if theoretically, if they did a 69 of sorts and bit each other.
- 47:02Matt: If they bite each other at the s maybe this is how we should ask.
- 47:05Matt: If they bite each other at the exact same moment.
- 47:09Matt: Yes.
- 47:10Matt: And they're gripped in an undead death grip.
- 47:13Eric: Who, yes, who who who cries uncle first, metaphorically speaking.
- 47:18Eric: Yeah.
- 47:19Eric: Exactly.
- 47:20Matt: And here's what I want to say.
- 47:21Eric: Okay.
- 47:22Matt: Go on and say it.
- 47:24Matt: The other characteristics we know about vampires.
- 47:26Matt: They're they're after blood specifically.
- 47:28SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 47:29Matt: They're not just trying to eat human flesh.
- 47:32Matt: They want just the blood.
- 47:34Matt: They go, they can turn into bats, they can do other things.
- 47:38Matt: Everything that they do, though, requires the use of the brain.
- 47:43Matt: Okay.
- 47:44Matt: Right?
- 47:44Matt: They are cognizant of their actions.
- 47:47Matt: Yep.
- 47:47Matt: If a zombie becomes a vampire, can they become cognizant?
- 47:52Matt: I don't think so, because their disease has has ravished their body.
- 47:58Matt: Yeah.
- 48:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 48:01Matt: Yeah.
- 48:01Matt: I think what's more likely is that whatever property a vampire gives a gives a new vampire when they bite, I think that is nullified by whatever disease the zombie has.
- 48:17Eric: Then you got a zombie vampire, which is essentially a vampire.
- 48:21Eric: Because I don't think he stops being a vampire.
- 48:23Eric: He is now a vampire with the zombie template on top of it.
- 48:27Matt: Yeah, so he becomes this un he's he's still undead.
- 48:31Eric: He's un undead, but he's not dead.
- 48:35Matt: Does he become mortal?
- 48:36Matt: Because if you kill a zombie's brain, does it cancel out?
- 48:40Matt: Oh.
- 48:42Matt: You mean do they just become a human again?
- 48:45Eric: No, I think what I think happens, and this is kind of the scary thing.
- 48:49Eric: What I think happens is we get a situ we get a Dracula who's now a zombie, so he's now a super, super strong, super fast, super powerful, like death machine that no longer has the intelligence to like keep it in check and like feed smartly.
- 49:10Eric: Because like, you know, Dracula, he whoops ass.
- 49:13Eric: Yeah.
- 49:14Eric: But he like he keeps it on the down low so he doesn't have mobs outside of his house.
- 49:19Matt: I feel like he's just gonna go book wild for a good minute, but then like but then also He goes from being a a serial killer, if you will, sneaking into houses via windows and and and biting people as uh in a very targeted approach to a mass murderer.
- 49:43Eric: He goes from yeah, he goes from like H.H.
- 49:47Eric: Holmes to like an MMA fighter on bath salts.
- 49:51Matt: Yes.
- 49:52Matt: Okay, yes.
- 49:54Eric: And I feel like that will be a very short-lived but immensely destructive cycle, because he's gonna be dumb as a box of rocks.
- 50:03Eric: So like he's got a night, and then the sun's gonna come up and he's gonna die.
- 50:09Matt: Mm-mm, mm-hmm.
- 50:10Matt: Yeah, because he won't he won't have he won't remember that he has to go inside.
- 50:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 50:16Matt: So I I think you're right, and I think the determination is if a zombie and a vampire bite each other simultaneously, the the property that becomes dominant is the zombie property.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 50:32Eric: I feel like the zombie I feel like the yeah, the the dominant one is the zombie.
- 50:35Eric: They're they're both gonna be dumb.
- 50:37Eric: I feel like the zombie is gonna turn into just like a weak ass vampire, and Dracula is gonna turn into a strong ass zombie who's dumb as hell.
- 50:48Matt: Yeah, I agree with you too.
- 50:50Eric: Yep, yeah.
- 50:50Matt: Well, we've given the people what they want once again, Eric.
- 50:54Matt: Uh, so thank you for the question, drummer CK.
- 50:58Matt: Please send us more.
- 50:59Matt: That goes to everybody.
- 51:00Matt: But first, before we uh before we lower the curtain on episode eight, I'd like to transition over to some local legends, Eric.
- 51:08Matt: How about you?
- 51:08Matt: Oh, please.
- 51:10Matt: Uh who went first last time was It was me.
- 51:13Eric: All right, it's my butt demon.
- 51:15Matt: So I'll go first this week.
- 51:17Matt: Okay.
- 51:18Matt: And Eric, I gotta be honest, I have been excited about telling you about this local legend for weeks since it first came to my consciousness, since I became aware of it.
- 51:30Matt: It makes it sound like you just like it entered your mind.
- 51:33Matt: Yeah, that I intuited it.
- 51:34Matt: You opened your third eye.
- 51:36Matt: It was like, oh, wait a minute, I sensed something.
- 51:39Matt: No, no, no, no.
- 51:40Matt: I saw this on a post, somebody posted on Facebook or something, and I did some research, and here we go.
- 51:48Matt: I am excited to tell you about this.
- 51:49Matt: Deep within the hemlock forests of northern Pennsylvania.
- 51:55Matt: Oh, yeah.
- 51:56Matt: You'll discover what has been described as, quote, the most morbid of beast.
- 52:03Matt: I speak, of course, of the squonk.
- 52:08Matt: The squonk or squonks, often described as quote, the homeliest of Pennsylvania's creatures.
- 52:19Matt: We're first described by a man named William T.
- 52:23Matt: Cox in his yes, yes, pause for laughter at Cox.
- 52:29Matt: In his 1910 book, Fearsome Creatures of the Lumber Woods with a few desert and mountain beasts.
- 52:36Eric: Wait, is that the title of the book?
- 52:39Eric: Oh fuck yeah.
- 52:40Eric: Get this guy the oh man, he's right there with Dick Berg.
- 52:43Matt: Okay, so a lot of this, so that is my primary source for what I'm about to tell you.
- 52:49Matt: Beautiful.
- 52:49Matt: And I'm quoting a lot of it.
- 52:51SPEAKER_01: Good.
- 52:52Matt: So, as this uh remains the primary source, allow me to jump right into it.
- 52:57Matt: Okay?
- 52:58Matt: This is from the book Fearsome Creatures of the Lumber Woods with a Few Desert and Mountain Beasts.
- 53:04Matt: The Squonk is of a very retiring disposition, generally travelling about at twilight and dusk.
- 53:15Matt: Because of its misfitting skin, which is covered with warts and moles, it is always unhappy.
- 53:26Matt: Hunters who are good at tracking are able to follow a squonk by its tear stained trail, for the animal weeps constantly.
- 53:39Matt: When cornered an escape seems impossible, or when surprised and frightened, it may even dissolve itself in tears.
- 53:53Matt: Squonks have been described since as ha as moving even slower than normal nights on nights when the moon shines its brightest to avoid the shame of its ugly, hideous self.
- 54:10Matt: And squonks are also noted for having webb toes on just their left feet.
- 54:14Matt: Just the left side.
- 54:16Matt: Eric, also, I want you to know that the squonk has a scientific name.
- 54:20Matt: Oh, I bet it does.
- 54:22Matt: And the scientific name is La Crema Corpus Dissolvers.
- 54:28Matt: There it is.
- 54:29Matt: Now, also included in the book is an account of an attempted squonk capture by a man named JP Wentling, who, quote, had a disappointing experience with a squonk near Mount.
- 54:45Matt: I'm sorry.
- 54:47Eric: What the fuck is with this Mad Libs shit?
- 54:50Eric: It sounds like someone just wrote Mad Lib's the fucking creature.
- 54:55Matt: No, but it's a published field guide.
- 54:59Matt: Again, this is from fearsome creatures of the lumberwoods with few desert with a few desert amounted beasts.
- 55:06Matt: So we have JP Wentling.
- 55:08Matt: He's had a disappointing experience with a squonk near Mount Alto.
- 55:14Matt: He made this is again quote, he made a clever capture by mimicking the squonk and inducing it to hop into a sack where he in in which he was carrying it home when suddenly the burden lightened and the weeping ceased.
- 55:33Matt: Wentling unslung the sack and looked in, but there was nothing but tears and bubbles.
- 55:43Matt: Bubbles and bubbles.
- 55:45Matt: Meaning there was so much it dissolved itself, Eric, into tears.
- 55:49Matt: It's its only move.
- 55:51Matt: It dissolved into tears and it so much so that there were bubbles in the mass.
- 55:58Matt: Eric, I would like to share my screen with you and show you.
- 56:02Matt: Show me this thing.
- 56:03Matt: I would like you to see with your own eyes.
- 56:05Eric: I haven't even seen it, and I want to- This is the first, like, supernatural monster I've ever wanted to bully.
- 56:13Matt: Okay, interesting reaction.
- 56:14Matt: I feel a great deal of pity for it's like Eeyore, but he's so depressed that he dissolves into tears.
- 56:24Matt: And this is what he looks like.
- 56:26Eric: Oh my god.
- 56:29Eric: Now I now okay, now I don't want to bully it.
- 56:32Matt: Sad thing.
- 56:34Eric: Oh, what the fuck?
- 56:36Matt: And look in this photo, we'll put it on Instagram.
- 56:38Matt: In this illustration, it is already, you could see the puddle underneath it.
- 56:43Eric: I can see it's like slipping around in its own tears.
- 56:48Eric: Oh my god.
- 56:50Matt: With its again, I and again, this is a quote from the official description.
- 56:53Matt: It's mist fitting skin.
- 56:56Eric: It looks like a sweet potato fucked baby Yoda.
- 57:00Matt: Yes, but the skin of the bait of the baked potato is loosed.
- 57:04Eric: Oh yeah, no, we left that one in the oven for too long.
- 57:08Matt: It's as if it's as if it's one big sad scrotum.
- 57:13Matt: Yes.
- 57:16Matt: Here and it knows it.
- 57:18Matt: It knows that it's a sad scrotum.
- 57:20Matt: That's the worst part in the world.
- 57:22Matt: And it's forced, it is forced to go through its days knowing what it is.
- 57:29Matt: Oh God.
- 57:31Matt: And that is the uplifting story of the squonk.
- 57:35Matt: And my sources uh again, as always, are Wikipedia.
- 57:40Matt: Uh I again consulted Cryptidpedia, which I think is gonna pop up on our local legends quite a bit.
- 57:46Matt: And yes, once more the primary source, Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods with a few desert and mountain beasts by William T.
- 57:54Matt: Cox, published in 1910.
- 57:57Matt: And that is the squonk.
- 57:58Matt: Eric, what local legend do you got for me?
- 58:00Eric: How can I follow that, Matt?
- 58:03Eric: Alright, so you want to know what I got?
- 58:06Eric: Just gonna hop right into it.
- 58:08Eric: Uh, beware the deadly demon truck of Seven Hills Road.
- 58:15Matt: Yes, yes, tell me about this demon truck.
- 58:17Eric: Oh man, so this is an ellicate city legend.
- 58:20Eric: Ellicate City, so local for us.
- 58:23Eric: Yeah, yeah.
- 58:23Eric: Uh, city, um, which apparently is like one of the most haunted locations in Maryland.
- 58:35Matt: Well, it it doesn't, isn't it there that that there it has that penitentiary nearby, right?
- 58:40Eric: Yeah.
- 58:40Eric: Well, it's Maryland.
- 58:41Eric: We got penitentiaries all over the place.
- 58:43Matt: Yeah, but the haunted one.
- 58:45Matt: The like the like insane asylum, isn't there one nearby?
- 58:48Eric: Oh, yeah.
- 58:48Eric: Oh, yeah.
- 58:49Eric: Near Ellican City, I I think it's either Henry Tin or Forest Haven.
- 58:52Eric: Um, which I've gone to both of those very illegally.
- 58:57Matt: Um, at admission of guilt on a recorded medium.
- 59:04Eric: Uh so literally, this involves the deadly demon truck of Seven Hills Road.
- 59:10Eric: Uh Seven Hills Road is this big winding road that goes over, it's a two-lane road that goes over seven hills and just like weaves up and down them.
- 59:22Matt: Good name.
- 59:23Eric: Yep, good name.
- 59:24Eric: But it's that the actual name of the road is is like College Road.
- 59:31Eric: It is a college avenue.
- 59:32Eric: It's a very uh but everyone calls it Seven Hills Road.
- 59:36Eric: And the story goes that if you like driving on it at night, a a like pitch black old timey truck with like a phantom driver will appear out of nowhere and try to like run you off the road.
- 59:52Eric: And there apparently have been a fuck ton of accidents on that road.
- 59:58Eric: Like people in the like in the past decade, a shit ton of like teenagers and college kids have died on that road.
- 1:00:06Eric: One account of the demon truck tale uh comes from someone known only as DH.
- 1:00:14Eric: And they say Hugley?
- 1:00:19Eric: I'm gonna give him an appropriate I I like to imagine him as like a super old man, like kind of like a kind of like a pet cemetery kind of deal.
- 1:00:25Eric: I'm gonna give that a little bit of a spin.
- 1:00:27Eric: Okay.
- 1:00:29Eric: When I was 16 years old, my brother and I and some of our friends were out for one of our joy rides and just happened to come across seven hills by accident.
- 1:00:41Eric: Don't know how you come across a two-lane road by accident.
- 1:00:44Eric: It was well after midnight, and me being the level-headed one, presumptuous, I wanted to go home, but my brother being the dear devil wanted to test the legend.
- 1:00:57Eric: It seemed like we were the only ones on the road.
- 1:01:01Eric: It was pitch black and dead silent.
- 1:01:04Eric: How is it dead silent?
- 1:01:05Eric: You were in a car?
- 1:01:06Eric: When out of nowhere headlights were right on top of us.
- 1:01:10Eric: It freaked us out.
- 1:01:12Eric: And we thought the vehicle was going to ram into our car, but it didn't.
- 1:01:16Eric: We sped up and pulled off the road.
- 1:01:19Eric: But when we calmed down enough to get back on the road, the car was gone.
- 1:01:24Eric: It was nowhere, and the road stretched for miles.
- 1:01:29Eric: It's like the demon truck appeared out of nowhere.
- 1:01:33Eric: I'll never forgot that experience, and to this day I will never drive the Seven Hills at night.
- 1:01:41Eric: You like how my much like Seven Hills Road, my accent sort of ebbed and flooded.
- 1:01:48Matt: No, I think it I think it worked.
- 1:01:50Eric: I was really expecting exploring the space.
- 1:01:52Eric: Uh, but yeah, apparently, if you drive like an asshole on this road, you get approached by a demon truck.
- 1:01:59Eric: There's also reports of like a cloaked woman who will just stand in the middle of the road.
- 1:02:03Eric: We don't know what her relationship is to the demon truck, but could she be the phantom driver?
- 1:02:08Eric: Ooh! But yes.
- 1:02:11Eric: Uh only in Maryland could we could we have a demon truck.
- 1:02:18Matt: But I appreciate that the demon truck is only going after bad Maryland drivers.
- 1:02:26Eric: Yes, as it should.
- 1:02:27Matt: As it should.
- 1:02:28Matt: Somebody should.
- 1:02:30Eric: Going after assholes, it haunts those who don't use their turn signal.
- 1:02:33Matt: Oh gosh.
- 1:02:34Matt: It's a real problem in probably the country.
- 1:02:37Eric: But this is probably the country, but especially Maryland, because you can't get in trouble for it.
- 1:02:41Matt: Well, thank you, Eric, for uh giving us the demon truck of Seven Hills Rogers.
- 1:02:47Eric: Thank you for giving me the most loathsome mythical creature I've heard of.
- 1:02:51Matt: I am obsessed with the squonk.
- 1:02:53Matt: And quite frankly, I identify with it.
- 1:02:56Eric: And you know what I like about the squonk?
- 1:02:58Eric: Tell me.
- 1:02:59Eric: Everything I all I could think the entire time you're telling me about every aspect of the squonk.
- 1:03:06Eric: All I could think.
- 1:03:07Eric: Nobody asked for this.
- 1:03:09Matt: Nobody asked to know about the squonk.
- 1:03:12Matt: And the squonk certainly didn't ask to be a squonk.
- 1:03:16Eric: Can I put it to a vote?
- 1:03:18Eric: Put what to a vote?
- 1:03:21Eric: All in favor of making the squonk the unofficial mascot of you didn't ask for this.
- 1:03:28Matt: Oh man.
- 1:03:29Matt: I mean, we'll put uh again, I'm gonna put this on Instagram.
- 1:03:32Matt: Yep.
- 1:03:32Matt: Along with if there are any illustrations we can find of the demon truck of Seven Hills Road.
- 1:03:38Matt: And um I think at this point we owe it to the listeners to include the uh the loose gravel that you're drinking.
- 1:03:46Matt: Uh the Oh yeah.
- 1:03:48Eric: Uh my so for my fellow friends in that Yerba Mate life, make make mate, not war.
- 1:03:54Eric: Um get at me with your blends.
- 1:03:57Eric: I'm I'm I'm enjoying some.
- 1:04:00Eric: Do not get at us with your blends.
- 1:04:02Eric: Yeah, get at me with it.
- 1:04:02Eric: I'm enjoying some Cruise to Malta right now.
- 1:04:05Eric: I've had some Teragoi.
- 1:04:10Eric: Yeah, it's very it's it's it's a more it's a lighter yerba.
- 1:04:15Eric: Uh no, it's sun-dried instead of smoked.
- 1:04:18Eric: Less carcinogens, less toxins, but you know.
- 1:04:21Eric: Oh my god, I hate what you've become.
- 1:04:24Eric: Oh sorry, I can't hear you over my Stanley thermos.
- 1:04:28Eric: No, not the Stanley Thermos.
- 1:04:30Eric: This thing's like a fucking murder weapon.
- 1:04:32Eric: Also, it's a bitch in thermos.
- 1:04:34Eric: If nothing else out of my if if nothing else out of my Yerba Mate habit, I've gotten a bitch in thermos.
- 1:04:42Matt: Well, nobody asked to hear about your Yerba Mate habits, and and they certainly didn't ask for this.
- 1:04:52Matt: So, thank you for listening to yet another episode of You Didn't Ask for This.
- 1:04:57Matt: Uh we need your questions, we need your local legends, we need your candidates for new verses in the future.
- 1:05:06Matt: We apparently need your Yerba matcha.
- 1:05:10Matt: What is it again?
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_00: Yerba Matthew?
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_00: It's Yerba Mate.
- 1:05:15Matt: Your Yerba Mate blends.
- 1:05:17Matt: Ugh, I can't believe I had to say it.
- 1:05:20Matt: And taglines and basically anything else you want us to do on this show.
- 1:05:26Matt: Would you put the straw?
- 1:05:27Matt: Like, you don't need to have the straw in the corner of your mouth.
- 1:05:32Matt: But that's the traditional It's not a peace pipe or something.
- 1:05:38Eric: Oh, no, Yerba is meant to be shared and passed away.
- 1:05:42Eric: Matt, will you take my will you take a sip of mate?
- 1:05:45Eric: Thankfully, before I'll get you to take a sip of mate.
- 1:05:50Matt: Okay.
- 1:05:51Matt: Well, for for our whenever we have our first live episode.
- 1:05:55Matt: Oh, yeah.
- 1:05:56Eric: Our first live episode will be a play-by-play of me preparing.
- 1:06:00Eric: Because Matt, there's a whole thing around it.
- 1:06:01Eric: I just want to let you know that right now, there's a whole thing around it.
- 1:06:04Matt: Oh, I have no doubt that there is a quote whole thing around it.
- 1:06:09Matt: So anyway, send us your questions and other shit to you didn't ask for this at gmail.com or you didn't ask pod on Instagram or Twitter.
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- 1:06:23Matt: And you know what?
- 1:06:24Matt: I'm gonna give a special shout out to Twitter because not much has been happening there.
- 1:06:28Matt: So go ahead, give us a follow there.
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- 1:06:38Matt: So, you know, the other other folks learn of the good word of you didn't ask for this.
- 1:06:47Matt: Since since apparently we're also religion based a Christian podcast.
- 1:06:53Eric: This is a Christian podcast, no cursing.
- 1:06:55Matt: Oh man.
- 1:06:58Matt: Peace be with you.
- 1:07:00Matt: And with your spirit.
- 1:07:02Eric: My name's Matt Shay.
- 1:07:03Eric: My name's Eric Poach.
- 1:07:04Eric: You didn't ask.
- 1:07:08Eric: You're Bamate.
- 1:07:10Matt: No, I I set us up for a real ending.
- 1:07:14Matt: We did it.
- 1:07:15Matt: We were like on professional podcast for a second.