Reasons to be cheerful?
Martyn Ziegler joins Nat & Gregor in what is a crucial week for the return of football in England, and why we could be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
More on this, why the EFL could turn to the government for help, and the panel mark 15 years to the day since the miracle of Istanbul.
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