Latest / Reformed Thinking / How Ministers Are Chosen: Calvin on the Call to Office | John Calvin
Transcript
- 0:00Welcome to reform thinking. It's good to be here.
- 0:02Today we're going to be taking a a really serious look at
- 0:07something that is just fundamental to the integrity of
- 0:10the church. We're talking about the lawful
- 0:13vocation. We're doing a deep dive into the
- 0:16public, the outward call of ministers, So bishops,
- 0:21presbyters, deacons and the rules that are meant to
- 0:24structure their appointment. And this is all about
- 0:27ecclesiastical order and discipline.
- 0:28It's about the specific mechanisms the church has to use
- 0:31to select its leaders, right? This is to make sure the
- 0:33ministry has authority and, you know, integrity both in front of
- 0:37the congregation and, well, the world.
- 0:40We're sort of setting aside the person's private spiritual life
- 0:43for a moment to focus on what makes the office publicly valid.
- 0:46And our mission here is to really unpack that structure.
- 0:49We're drawing from established rules and scriptural practices
- 0:52that the reformer saw in the church.
- 0:54We want to get at what makes a call truly lawful.
- 0:57Yes. And to keep this from getting
- 0:59too sprawling, the material is laid out around 4 specific
- 1:02questions that really define the whole ministerial call.
- 1:05That structure is so helpful. I think of them as the four
- 1:09pillars of the solemn call. They give us the criteria for a
- 1:13lawful public appointment. OK, So what are they?
- 1:16Well. 1st, we have to ask what sort of ministers should they be
- 1:20that gets at their qualifications?
- 1:22Second, how should they be appointed?
- 1:24This speaks more to the reverence, the spiritual
- 1:29atmosphere of the whole process. 3rd, and this one can get
- 1:32complicated, by whom should they be appointed?
- 1:35This is about the balance between the people's consent and
- 1:38the guidance of the pastors. And finally, by what right or
- 1:42ceremony should they be installed?
- 1:44So the actual act of ordination, this whole systematic approach,
- 1:48is there to maintain discipline because of the immense weight of
- 1:51choosing the church's leaders. OK, let's look back this.
- 1:53But before we get into those 4 outward pillars, you mentioned
- 1:55something crucial. We have to 1st establish this
- 1:58distinction between the private and the public.
- 2:00Yes, the secret call versus the solemn call.
- 2:03It seems like if we miss this separation, we misunderstand the
- 2:06whole idea of vocation. We absolutely do that.
- 2:09Separation is critical. It defines the two different
- 2:12jurisdictions a minister operates under, gods and the
- 2:16churches, and we have to start with a secret call because this
- 2:19is about the minister's own standing before God.
- 2:22OK, so this is internal. It's completely internal.
- 2:25It's a conviction that's deeply personal, and it's something the
- 2:28church you know, can't possibly be a reliable witness to.
- 2:32It's between the person and God. So what does the source material
- 2:35say needs to be there in the minister's heart for this secret
- 2:40call to be valid, for the ministry to be, as they say,
- 2:44approved by God? The sources are very specific.
- 2:46They require what called the good witness of the heart.
- 2:49The good witness of the heart, right?
- 2:51The candidate has to come to the office with a sincere
- 2:54disposition. This means receiving the
- 2:56position with a sincere fear of God and a genuine desire to
- 2:59build up the church. That has to be the highest
- 3:02motive. So it's about pure motivation.
- 3:04The internal conviction has to be that they're doing this work
- 3:07out of devotion, out of obedience, and not for any kind
- 3:10of personal gain. And just as powerfully, the
- 3:13sources seem to stress what has to be rejected.
- 3:16This isn't just another job. Exactly.
- 3:19The office must not be accepted because of ambition or avarice,
- 3:23you know, greed or any other selfish desire.
- 3:26These impure motives, even if they're hidden from everyone,
- 3:30they make the ministry unacceptable to God.
- 3:33So there's this metaphor they use, right?
- 3:35The house builder. It's a great one if the builder
- 3:37is only building for his own profit.
- 3:39The house might look fine from the outside, but God rejects the
- 3:43worker. The foundation is corrupt.
- 3:45OK, that sets up a really interesting tension, because if
- 3:48the motive is greed, God disapproves, but the church
- 3:52can't see the heart. So now let's contrast that deep
- 3:55internal work with the outer or solemn call the public one.
- 3:59Right. The outer call is concerned
- 4:00entirely with the public order of the church.
- 4:02It's the visible structural process.
- 4:04It's witnessed, it's voted on, it's established by specific
- 4:07rights. This is what determines the
- 4:09minister's lawful authority in front of the congregation.
- 4:12And this is where the tension comes in.
- 4:13This is it. The sources state that a person
- 4:15is considered duly be called in the presence of the Church
- 4:18through this outer call, even if they internally hold an evil
- 4:22conscience. Wait, say that again.
- 4:24As long as their wickedness is not open, not public, the outer
- 4:27call stands. So the public structure is
- 4:30considered valid for the sake of church order, even if the person
- 4:33leading the service is internally compromised.
- 4:37Doesn't that risk just institutionalizing hypocrisy?
- 4:40It sounds like a huge risk, I know, but the sources are
- 4:43talking about validity and discipline, not a person's
- 4:45eternal salvation. The outer call is designed to
- 4:48protect the people and the office.
- 4:50I see, so it's about function. It establishes a legal and
- 4:54visible authority that the congregation can recognize and
- 4:57submit to without having to second guess the state of the
- 5:00minister's soul. If the minister's internal
- 5:02wickedness is secret, the authority granted by the Church
- 5:05remains lawful. Because otherwise it would be
- 5:08chaos. Utter chaos.
- 5:09The church has to have a visible rule to operate by.
- 5:13If it didn't, every spiritual act would be subject to the
- 5:16minister's secret relationship with God, and public discipline
- 5:19would be destroyed. That really clarifies the
- 5:21boundary there. God judges the inward intent.
- 5:24The Church judges the outward compliance and fitness.
- 5:29Let's use that house building metaphor you mentioned to sort
- 5:31of tie these two calls together for our listeners.
- 5:33It's a perfect analogy. The ministry itself is like a
- 5:37house being built for God's sacred use.
- 5:40The secret call is the sincere internal intent of the builder.
- 5:43Pure devotion, not profit. Exactly that pure motive is
- 5:47judged solely by God. And the outer call, these 4
- 5:50pillars we're about to get into, that's the physical reality of
- 5:53the house. That's it.
- 5:54The outer call is the visible structure and the blueprints.
- 5:57It's the qualifications, the right, the consent from the
- 6:00people. These rules make sure the
- 6:01building is sound, that it's competent, and that it's
- 6:04authorized by the community no matter what secret thoughts the
- 6:07foreman might be having. So if the structure is built
- 6:09lawfully, the church can safely use the house.
- 6:12Yes, both calls are necessary, but they protect different
- 6:16things. The inner call protects the
- 6:18minister from God's judgement. The outer call protects the
- 6:21church from disorder and unlawful authority.
- 6:24That's a great framework. OK, let's move on to that first
- 6:27public pillar. What sort of ministers should
- 6:30they be? Right?
- 6:31This is where the Church has to look at the visible fitness of
- 6:34the candidate to bear what the source is called, the burden of
- 6:38the ministry. And it's key to say again that
- 6:41the requirements Paul lays out for bishops are understood to
- 6:44apply to presbyters and deacons, too.
- 6:46That's right, the bar for moral and doctrinal standards doesn't
- 6:50get lower for any office. So the qualifications don't
- 6:53change. No, and that uniformity is what
- 6:56prevents an erosion of the ministry's dignity.
- 6:59The qualifications really fall into two main groups.
- 7:02First, the external ones, which are of a moral and doctrinal
- 7:04authority, and 2nd, those relating to competence and
- 7:07fitness for the work itself. Start with those external
- 7:10qualifications. These sound like the public non
- 7:13negotiables. They are.
- 7:15The primary absolute necessity is sound doctrine.
- 7:18A minister has to be orthodox, capable of holding to the
- 7:22integrity of the Gospel. I'm paired with that.
- 7:24Paired with this is the requirement for a holy life.
- 7:27Now, this isn't perfection, but a minister has to possess a
- 7:30publicly visible moral integrity.
- 7:33If their life contradicts their teaching, the whole ministry
- 7:36just collapses. And then there's this negative
- 7:38requirement, which seems maybe the most critical for public
- 7:41validity, the absence of notorious faults.
- 7:45Why is that specific phrase so vital to a lawful call?
- 7:49It's entirely practical. It's for the sake of the
- 7:51congregation. The sources really stress the
- 7:53consequences here. If a candidate has a notorious a
- 7:57public fault, that fault would immediately deprive the minister
- 8:00of authority. And it would disgrace the
- 8:02ministry itself. It would disgrace the ministry
- 8:04the second their reputation is destroyed by a public sin or
- 8:07scandal. The lawful authority that the
- 8:10outer call gave them is just neutralized.
- 8:12You can't be an effective ambassador if your moral
- 8:14credibility is shot. It's about maintaining order,
- 8:17not just personal holiness. So it's really the public
- 8:20scandal that undermines the office.
- 8:22Can we try to define what would have counted as a notorious
- 8:25fault in this context? Sure, historically it would be
- 8:29anything that brought public shame and contradicted the
- 8:32office. This could be legal failings,
- 8:36obvious greed, overt displays of pride, really anything that
- 8:40contradicted the moral purity they were supposed to uphold.
- 8:43So not about hidden struggles. No, not at all.
- 8:45It was about the visible evidence that the candidate was
- 8:48unfit to lead a holy life. The Church just can't afford to
- 8:52appoint someone who's bad reputation already precedes
- 8:55them. OK, so moving past that basic
- 8:58moral and doctrinal standing, the candidate also has to have
- 9:01demonstrable competence. They have to be fit for the
- 9:04actual work. It's not enough to just be a
- 9:07good person, they have to be able to do the job.
- 9:09Yes, this is huge. Candidates must be adequate and
- 9:12fit to bear the burden imposed upon them.
- 9:15The language there is so intentional.
- 9:16It's a heavy responsibility and not a comfortable job.
- 9:19So they need skills. They have to be instructed in
- 9:21those skills necessary for the discharge of their office.
- 9:24This means they can't be ignorant of the Scriptures, they
- 9:27can't be incapable of teaching, and they can't be unskilled in
- 9:30pastoral council. Which suggests that intellectual
- 9:33preparation, you know, education, is just as much a
- 9:36part of the call as personal piety is.
- 9:39Absolutely. The material insists on this.
- 9:41It says the Lord supplies those destined for high office with
- 9:45the arms required to fulfill. It so they don't come empty
- 9:47handed. They don't come empty handed and
- 9:49unprepared. If God calls a man to teach, he
- 9:52equips him with the ability to teach.
- 9:55This necessary preparation is summarized as learning joined
- 9:59with piety and all the other gifts of a good pastor.
- 10:02Because one without the other is dangerous.
- 10:04It is learning without piety is dangerous, but piety without
- 10:07learning leaves the minister unable to articulate and defend
- 10:11sound doctrine. So you have these three things,
- 10:14doctrine, integrity, and practical competence, forming
- 10:17that indispensable first pillar. OK, we've established who the
- 10:20minister should be. Now we can turn to the second
- 10:22pillar, how they should be appointed.
- 10:24And this isn't about the the mechanics of voting just yet,
- 10:28but the spiritual posture, the religious awe that the church
- 10:30needs to have during the selection process.
- 10:33And this is a spiritual part of the outer call that I think
- 10:35often gets overlooked today. Believers back then understood
- 10:39that choosing ministers was, and I'm quoting the most serious
- 10:42thing of all. The most serious thing?
- 10:43Yes, this choice had massive effects on the congregation, on
- 10:47the faith of their children. So they dared to attempt nothing
- 10:50except with the highest reverence and care.
- 10:53And that reverence, that's the true how?
- 10:56And the practical ways this solemnities expressed are
- 10:59specifically named as fasting and prayers.
- 11:02Why were these spiritual disciplines seen as so
- 11:05structurally necessary for the appointment?
- 11:07Well, they serve a constitutional purpose.
- 11:09You could say. The whole process of
- 11:11appointment, even with the best candidates, is still subject to
- 11:15human judgement. And human judgement is flawed.
- 11:17It's prone to fickleness, to evil intentions, or just to
- 11:21plain human error. Fasting and prayer are the
- 11:24necessary disciplines to try and overcome that human frailty.
- 11:27What? Was the goal of the prayers.
- 11:29The specific stated purpose was to beseech from God the spirit
- 11:33of counsel and discretion. It's an open admission that they
- 11:36can't trust their own ability to discern the right person for the
- 11:40office without God's guidance. So this isn't just a, you know,
- 11:43a voluntary devotional activity. It's a requirement to make sure
- 11:47the selection process itself is pure and orderly.
- 11:51It's about seeking divine oversight.
- 11:53That's it exactly. It ensures the process is guided
- 11:56by divine wisdom and not just human politics or personal
- 11:59preference. And this is rooted in a very
- 12:02strong biblical precedent. Where do we see this?
- 12:05Luke tells. Us that fasting and prayers
- 12:07accompanied believers when they created presbyters when the
- 12:10early church wanted to send out Paul and Barnabas, they fasted
- 12:14and prayed. This set a pattern a binding
- 12:16pattern on the church that this spiritual discipline is
- 12:18necessary for order when you're selecting those who hold the
- 12:21highest spiritual burden. It elevates the whole thing
- 12:24above just a secular vote. So if a.
- 12:26Selection process lacks that foundation of fasting and
- 12:29prayer. Are the results still considered
- 12:31lawful in the sense of the outer call?
- 12:34Well, according. To the spirit of these sources,
- 12:36any selection that lacks this required awe is at risk of being
- 12:40deficient. If a church just casually
- 12:43appoints its leaders, if it fails to beg for the spirit of
- 12:46counsel and discretion, then they're just relying on human
- 12:49judgment. And even if it's.
- 12:50Technically valid, right? While the ordination might
- 12:53technically stand because of the popular vote and the laying on
- 12:56of hands are other pillars, the lack of reverence fundamentally
- 13:01compromises the process. It suggests it might lack God's
- 13:05approval even if it achieves a kind of public validity this
- 13:09brings. Us to what might be the most
- 13:10delicate political point in this whole process.
- 13:13Pillar 3 by whom they should be appointed.
- 13:17This pillar outlines that critical collaboration between
- 13:19the congregation, the people and the existing leadership and the
- 13:23source material demands A strict balance.
- 13:26It says the call is lawful only when the minister is created by
- 13:29the consent and approval of the people.
- 13:31While other pastors ought to preside over the election.
- 13:33It's a. Powerful synthesis, isn't it?
- 13:36It's a blend of popular rights and necessary authority.
- 13:39It's set up to make sure the common right and freedom of the
- 13:42church is preserved. The final decision belongs not
- 13:45to a small group of elites, but to the church as a whole.
- 13:48But that. Decision has to be guided,
- 13:50guided by wisdom. Yes, let's breakdown.
- 13:52That requirement for popular approval why is the voice of the
- 13:56people so indispensable for a lawful call?
- 14:00According to these sources, they're.
- 14:02Just uncompromising on this point.
- 14:04The call is held to be lawful according to the word of God
- 14:06only when there is consent and approval of the people.
- 14:09So if a. Leader is just imposed on them
- 14:12if a leader. Is imposed on the congregation
- 14:14against their will. The call is fundamentally
- 14:16illegitimate. Historically, the method of
- 14:18choosing by votes, often by, you know, raising hands, was
- 14:22established for this very reason.
- 14:23To preserve this freedom, the people shouldn't be subjected to
- 14:27a shepherd they reject. And there's a.
- 14:29Strong element of transparency here too, right?
- 14:31This isn't a secret process, not at all.
- 14:34The ordination must happen only in the presence and with the
- 14:36knowledge of the people. No backroom deals, no secret
- 14:40consecrations. The proof of the candidates
- 14:43fitness has to be established by public decision and testimony.
- 14:47And this rule comes directly from divine authority that
- 14:49stretches way back through the history of God's covenant
- 14:52people. Let's look at.
- 14:53Those scriptural examples how does the Bible reinforce this
- 14:57need for the people's visibility and approval There are.
- 15:00Three really strong examples that are referenced.
- 15:03First, under the Old Covenant, the Levitical priests were
- 15:06commanded to be brought into the presence of the people before
- 15:08their consecration. The whole community had to
- 15:11witness their dedication. OK.
- 15:13Second, when a new apostle was to be appointed after Judas
- 15:16Matthias, 2 candidates were brought forward, and while the
- 15:19final selection was by lot, the candidates themselves were
- 15:23chosen and presented by the community.
- 15:25And the third. Example the creation of the
- 15:26Deacons that seems to show the greatest amount of popular
- 15:29choice it does. The seven deacons were created
- 15:32with the people looking on and approving.
- 15:35The apostles told the multitude of the disciples to look out
- 15:38among you for seven men. The people selected them, and
- 15:41then the apostles confirmed that choice, which establish.
- 15:44A precedent it established. That the people are competent to
- 15:47assess the visible fitness of a candidate.
- 15:50As early commentators pointed out, this whole process ensures
- 15:53the ordination is just and lawful because it's been
- 15:56examined by the witness of everyone.
- 15:58Now we have. To look at the other side of
- 15:59that balance, the need for pastoral oversight.
- 16:04If the people have the right to choose, why did the existing
- 16:07leaders need to preside over the election?
- 16:09Well, other. Pastors ought to preside over
- 16:11the election because the people, even though they have this
- 16:14common right, can still be swayed by human flaws.
- 16:17So the pastors. Are a check on that the pastors?
- 16:19Act as the moderator of the people in the election.
- 16:22Their main purpose is to stop the multitude from going wrong
- 16:25through fickleness, evil intentions, or just sheer
- 16:29disorder. A multitude acting without
- 16:31wisdom can easily be LED astray by someone who's charismatic but
- 16:35unqualified, or just breakdown into factional fighting.
- 16:39The moderator is there to preserve the integrity of the
- 16:42process. This.
- 16:43Tension really comes to a head when we look at the instructions
- 16:46given to guys like Timothy and Titus.
- 16:48They were told to appoint presbyters.
- 16:50Doesn't that sound like they were given, you know, autocratic
- 16:53authority to just bypass the popular vote?
- 16:55It's often. Misunderstood that way.
- 16:57But the sources insist this instruction meant giving good
- 17:00and salutary advice to the people about who the best choice
- 17:03would be. So it wasn't a.
- 17:04Command. It did not.
- 17:05Mean arranging everything according to their own decision,
- 17:08disregarding the rest of the church.
- 17:11The instruction to appoint was to guide, to moderate and to
- 17:15make sure the rules of qualification were being met,
- 17:17not to dictate the name and the history.
- 17:19Of the apostles themselves seems to confirm this limit on their
- 17:23authority absolutely. The sources point out that Paul
- 17:26himself was accustomed to creating bishops by a vote of
- 17:29the people. It's very unlikely that Paul
- 17:32would give Timothy or Titus a greater, more autocratic
- 17:34authority than he claimed for himself.
- 17:36So the presiding. Pastor ensures the rules are
- 17:39met. Yes, that.
- 17:40Pillar one is met and the spirit of Pillar 2 is honored, but the
- 17:44final authorization rests with the communal consent of Pillar
- 17:483. The election is, at the end of
- 17:50the day, the authoritative decision of the church as a
- 17:53whole, just guided and guarded by those already in authority.
- 17:56OK, so this. Brings us to the end of the
- 17:58outward call, the ceremonial part.
- 18:00By what right or ceremony should they be installed?
- 18:03The 4th. Pillar, the consistent.
- 18:05Answer is the laying on of hands.
- 18:08Now, the sources admit there's no explicit command, no set
- 18:11preset for this. So why did the apostles in the
- 18:13early church observe it so continually that it became
- 18:17indispensable for order? Well, they're.
- 18:19Very careful and continual observance of it ought to serve
- 18:22in lieu of a precept. It's a powerful argument from
- 18:25practice. They just didn't do.
- 18:26It any other way they used. No other ceremony when admitting
- 18:29men to the ministry. The sheer consistency of the
- 18:32practice gives it the authority of custom and order, which makes
- 18:35it binding for the sake of public discipline.
- 18:38The thinking is, if the Spirit of God led the apostles to
- 18:41establish the sign, the Church should continue it to.
- 18:45Really get the weight of the sign.
- 18:46We need to look at its origin. The sources trace it back to
- 18:49ancient Hebrew custom. What was the original religious
- 18:53meaning of laying on of hands the.
- 18:55Right came from the custom of the Hebrews.
- 18:58They used it to symbolically present to God that which they
- 19:01wish to be blessed and consecrated.
- 19:03It was a physical gesture of dedication and transference.
- 19:06Can you give? Us some of the examples that the
- 19:08sources cite for this, sure. We see it so vividly in
- 19:11patriarchal blessings, like when Jacob laid his hands on Ephraim
- 19:14and Manasseh to bless them. Christ himself used it when he
- 19:17prayed over children, and most significantly, it was mandated
- 19:20in the law. The Jews laid their hands on
- 19:23their sacrifices. So this physical act publicly
- 19:26identified the object, whether it was a child, a sacrifice, or
- 19:30a minister, as being offered and dedicated to God.
- 19:33So when the. Apostles brought this right into
- 19:34ordination. What specific religious meaning
- 19:37did it then carry for the new minister?
- 19:40How did it move beyond just simple dedication?
- 19:42It carried a. Three fold significance that was
- 19:45directly applicable to the office.
- 19:47First, it signified that the pastors were offering to God him
- 19:50whom they were receiving into the ministry.
- 19:53So it connects right back to that sacrificial idea of
- 19:56consecration and the second. Meaning it sounds almost like a
- 19:59powerful public warning. It is a.
- 20:00Profound public warning. It serves to warn the one
- 20:03ordained that he is no longer a law unto himself, but bound in
- 20:07servitude to God and the Church. The right is a visible public
- 20:12declaration of his commitment. It marks the minister as
- 20:15belonging entirely to the service of God and his people.
- 20:18And 3rd. It has a necessary public way to
- 20:20the office itself, yes. It is useful for the dignity of
- 20:24the ministry to be commended to the people by this sign.
- 20:27It makes the gravity of the newly conferred office visible
- 20:30to everyone in the congregation, and beyond that, it reminded
- 20:34everyone that the apostles had used this very sign when they
- 20:37conferred the visible graces of the Spirit, connecting it to the
- 20:41divine gifts needed for the office.
- 20:44Now, given that the right is a sign and not a direct
- 20:47commandment, how do the sources make sure it isn't just
- 20:51dismissed as an empty gesture or even worse, turned into some
- 20:54kind of superstition? That caution.
- 20:55Is key. It's considered no empty sign,
- 20:58but only if it is restored to its true origin and not turned
- 21:01to superstitious abuse. Meaning what?
- 21:03Exactly. Meaning it's.
- 21:04Not treated as if the physical act itself magically confers
- 21:06grace apart from the Holy Spirit.
- 21:08The sources state very firmly that the Spirit of God
- 21:11establishes nothing without cause in the Church.
- 21:13So if the apostles observed it, it must be useful for
- 21:16maintaining order and discipline and.
- 21:18Regarding who performs the right, does the people's consent
- 21:21from pillar three extend to the actual laying on of hands?
- 21:24No it. Does not.
- 21:26The ceremony is performed by pastors alone, not by the whole
- 21:29multitude. This division of Labor maintains
- 21:32order. The people choose and authorize.
- 21:35The existing leadership consecrates and publicly
- 21:38dedicates that choice. I see.
- 21:40It's. Noted that the custom varies on
- 21:42how many pastors lay hands on the candidate, but it is always
- 21:45performed by those already in office.
- 21:48OK. And.
- 21:48Finally, we have to address this often debated phrase from
- 21:51Scripture, laying on of hands at the presbytery.
- 21:55How should we interpret presbytery in this context?
- 21:58Well given? The whole framework we've
- 21:59discussed with popular consent and defined roles.
- 22:02The phrase is interpreted by the sources to mean that the
- 22:05ordination itself, not a group. Of people?
- 22:07Not necessarily. A specific company or a council
- 22:10of elders who all have to be present.
- 22:12It's seen as a way of talking about the solemnity and the
- 22:14official nature of the ACT, the public dedication as being done
- 22:17by a official authority rather than dictating the exact
- 22:20composition of the ordaining body.
- 22:22In every single case, this has been.
- 22:24A really extensive examination of the ecclesiastical rules that
- 22:28govern the solemn call. We've rigorously analyzed these
- 22:31four essential components for maintaining the public order and
- 22:34discipline of the Church and it all.
- 22:36Works together to ensure that ministry is lawful and
- 22:38functional right to quickly review those pillars we started
- 22:41with the necessary qualifications doctrine, life,
- 22:44fitness to bear the burden second, the required spiritual
- 22:48method that religious awe shown through fasting and prayer, the
- 22:52balance of. Authority Third.
- 22:54That essential balance of authority, popular consent and
- 22:57approval which is moderated and guided by the existing pastors.
- 23:01And 4th. The mandated ceremony of
- 23:03installation, the laying on of hands, and this.
- 23:06Entire structure, you know, tying the inner secret call to
- 23:09the external solemn call. It exists to secure 2 parallel
- 23:14realities, that the minister is deemed fit and lawful before the
- 23:17Church by human assessment and communal choice, while at the
- 23:21same time satisfying the internal requirements to be
- 23:23approved by God through pure devotion and that.
- 23:26Brings us right back to the level of reverence we talked
- 23:29about in Pillar 2. If believers historically placed
- 23:33such gravity on the selection, if they understood it as the
- 23:36most serious thing of all and dared nothing except with the
- 23:39highest reference, then we really have to ask ourselves a
- 23:42serious question, which is, do contemporary methods of
- 23:45selecting church leaders reflect that same seriousness?
- 23:49Do we approach the call to ministry with the same
- 23:51structural requirement for seeking God's counsel and
- 23:54discretion through fasting and prayers?
- 23:57Or do we risk reducing the lawful vocation to a purely
- 24:01human process of interviews and votes, and in doing so, forget
- 24:05the incredible weight of the burden that's being imposed on
- 24:07the minister That is a. Spiritual and practical
- 24:09question. Worth some serious reflection
- 24:11for the entire church. I believe so.
- 24:13Thank you for. Joining us for this deep
- 24:14examination into reformed thinking.