Latest / Reality with The King / RHOP Season 7 Review: Can Potomac be Great Again?

Transcript

RHOP Season 7 Review: Can Potomac be Great Again? · Reality with The King

0:00
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me you had a dangerous, violence, aggressive,
0:06
Speaker 1: tall woman with huge feet. According to Candace, you let
0:09
Speaker 1: that person come in the house and stay with you.
0:11
Speaker 1: But Monique and Kandas are making black women look bad.
0:15
Speaker 1: What is Mia doing?
0:17
Speaker 2: What is Mia doing? Because it's the same situation, same setting.
0:23
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, we'll be right back after these quick ads.
0:35
Speaker 4: Welcome to Reality with the King.
0:38
Speaker 3: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
0:41
Speaker 3: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
0:45
Speaker 3: television with over ten years a production experience.
0:49
Speaker 4: Once a week from Reality with the King, we'll.
0:52
Speaker 3: Sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap
0:55
Speaker 3: our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we
1:00
Speaker 3: are still talking and tweeting about. All right, rain Drop,
1:10
Speaker 3: So look, I did have a six week hiatus for
1:14
Speaker 3: Reality with the King podcast, and during that time, my love,
1:20
Speaker 3: the executive producer, Well now she's the former executive producer,
1:25
Speaker 3: but she is.
1:25
Speaker 4: The forever fan favorite.
1:27
Speaker 3: One of my most requested guests is returning.
1:31
Speaker 4: Yes, honey, we got Dash and Hally.
1:34
Speaker 1: Brown Baby, Oh my gosh, Hello, it's so weird to
1:37
Speaker 1: be on this side and having you prepped me the
1:41
Speaker 1: executive producer, prepping the executive producer to talk to the
1:44
Speaker 1: executive producer.
1:46
Speaker 3: And in the worlds of OG, I am your favorite
1:49
Speaker 3: executive producers, favorite executive producer.
1:54
Speaker 1: Periods, our own little like multiverse of madness that we
1:57
Speaker 1: got going on.
1:58
Speaker 4: How are you? So listen, it's all about you.
2:01
Speaker 3: Just give the rain drops a quick update, because look,
2:05
Speaker 3: they love you. They miss you, and people on the
2:08
Speaker 3: streets be like, where's Jasmine Child, and I'd be like,
2:11
Speaker 3: I ain't telling Jazzmin's business child.
2:13
Speaker 1: I love it they're looking for the twenty three year
2:15
Speaker 1: old Jasmine. I love how somebody really thought your friend
2:21
Speaker 1: really thought I was twenty three. No long ways away. Yes,
2:25
Speaker 1: I've been great. I am at Sony now. So I'm
2:28
Speaker 1: the executive producer of Entertainment Podcasts at Sony, and it's
2:33
Speaker 1: been a really cool journey. I miss you obviously, like yeah,
2:37
Speaker 1: but we still talk. Though we still talk, but I
2:39
Speaker 1: miss just kind of like being with you in terms
2:42
Speaker 1: of like working with you on the show and helping
2:44
Speaker 1: you out in all of that. So it's so good
2:46
Speaker 1: to just be back with you in this form outside
2:48
Speaker 1: of me just like calling you, like Hey, you got
2:50
Speaker 1: five minutes and then thirty minutes later were still on
2:53
Speaker 1: the phone.
2:54
Speaker 2: So it's good to be here.
2:56
Speaker 3: So look, we have to do a deep dive into
2:59
Speaker 3: Platon and what went wrong this season to the point
3:03
Speaker 3: where a lot of people are turned off by it.
3:06
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you because you're not only
3:08
Speaker 3: my friend, you're not only a fan favorite.
3:11
Speaker 4: You're also a fan of Potomac.
3:14
Speaker 3: You're a black woman as well, and all of those
3:16
Speaker 3: things to me is a condition in terms of.
3:19
Speaker 4: Who I wanted to talk to about this topic.
3:22
Speaker 3: I did not want to do this alone because I
3:25
Speaker 3: wanted somebody who, again unlike me, who's not in the
3:28
Speaker 3: reality business, who doesn't have a sort of deep relationship.
3:33
Speaker 4: With the cast.
3:34
Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk to you about it because
3:36
Speaker 3: we follow each other on Twitter and honey ms Jasmine said,
3:40
Speaker 3: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
3:43
Speaker 3: you stopped watching Potomac this past season.
3:46
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
3:47
Speaker 1: I think the last thing I remember was them they
3:50
Speaker 1: went somewhere and they were at they were on a bus.
3:53
Speaker 2: I think Wendy put something together.
3:55
Speaker 1: It might have been in episode two or three, and
3:58
Speaker 1: it was when Yeah, Wendy hath them burn the paper,
4:03
Speaker 1: and I remember, is that that happened earlier this season, right.
4:06
Speaker 4: Jasmine, that's like episode thought, Yeah.
4:09
Speaker 1: That's that's the last episode. I remember watching the way
4:12
Speaker 1: they tried to do Candace or the way that they
4:14
Speaker 1: were setting it up they were going to try to
4:16
Speaker 1: do Candace and Chris. I don't fuck with that at all.
4:18
Speaker 1: That felt so dark to me and just nasty. And
4:23
Speaker 1: I'm biased because I really enjoy Candace, Like I think
4:26
Speaker 1: Candace is a star to me, right, So I'm biased absolutely,
4:31
Speaker 1: but I just felt like watching anybody the way we
4:34
Speaker 1: had watched Candace and Chris and for that to kind
4:36
Speaker 1: of be the storyline they were going with.
4:38
Speaker 2: I don't know if they continued.
4:39
Speaker 1: With that for the entire season, but I saw that
4:42
Speaker 1: and immediately I was like, no, this is very very dark.
4:45
Speaker 1: The Housewives just has gotten into a place, all of them, right,
4:48
Speaker 1: every city, they've gotten to a place where like they're
4:50
Speaker 1: trying to ruin families, like it's not fun Shade anymore,
4:54
Speaker 1: Like y'all are trying to ruin people.
4:56
Speaker 2: And they just really turned me off.
4:57
Speaker 1: And it just felt like this is a group of
4:59
Speaker 1: women and these are not friends in any sense of
5:02
Speaker 1: the imagination. When filming starts, they come, they clock in,
5:06
Speaker 1: they you know, discuss their little story lines or whatever.
5:09
Speaker 1: They film the show, and they don't talk to each
5:11
Speaker 1: other once that's done. Obviously, Giselle and Robin do because
5:14
Speaker 1: they have a podcast together, but it doesn't feel like
5:16
Speaker 1: any of them are actually friends. And it just wasn't
5:19
Speaker 1: a good watch to me. I didn't get good vibes
5:21
Speaker 1: from it, so I stopped whatever that episode was where
5:22
Speaker 1: they were burning a paper child at and they weren't
5:26
Speaker 1: really trying to hear Wendy out with hers and yeah,
5:29
Speaker 1: Ashley turned on candidate.
5:30
Speaker 2: It's real quick. I was like, yes, these these witches
5:34
Speaker 2: are getting dark.
5:35
Speaker 1: And I say bitch as a term of endearment, like
5:37
Speaker 1: love them down, respect to all women, but you know
5:41
Speaker 1: it's a term of endearment.
5:42
Speaker 3: Yes, And listen, now that we don't work with each
5:45
Speaker 3: other tomore, we can't reveal that we call each other
5:48
Speaker 3: bitches all the time. Time.
5:51
Speaker 1: I have to check for myself because I know everybody
5:53
Speaker 1: isn't a fan of that word, and I do, you know,
5:55
Speaker 1: genuinely apologize if you're offended by that.
5:56
Speaker 2: But that's how me and mine, that's how we communicate.
5:59
Speaker 3: No, that's you and I communicate, And I had no
6:02
Speaker 3: idea that you stopped watching it that early. Like I said,
6:05
Speaker 3: I did not notice this until last week on Twitter
6:08
Speaker 3: when you revealed that you stopped watching this season at all.
6:12
Speaker 3: One of the things that you and I both used
6:14
Speaker 3: to enjoy about Potomac was it was fun. It was
6:18
Speaker 3: fun shade, It was light shade. And although we knew
6:22
Speaker 3: that Giselle was a producer and wore her producer had,
6:25
Speaker 3: we both never felt that it was so obvious in
6:28
Speaker 3: terms of making things happen out of nowhere and pulling
6:32
Speaker 3: things out of thin air. And the problem with this
6:35
Speaker 3: season was the fact that it's truly everything you said.
6:38
Speaker 3: It was very dark. And the reason why I'm happy
6:41
Speaker 3: we're talking about this is because a physical fight does
6:46
Speaker 3: not always mean that's the only way things are dark
6:49
Speaker 3: on reality TV. At the time of my interview with Giselle,
6:53
Speaker 3: Jasmine was still on board as the EP of the show,
6:56
Speaker 3: and I don't want to put words of.
6:57
Speaker 4: Your mouth, but we all felt like, Okayjisell was a
7:00
Speaker 4: cool woman.
7:01
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And what I always tell people is outside of
7:05
Speaker 3: the show, the Gizelle that I know personally is a
7:09
Speaker 3: breath of fresh air.
7:10
Speaker 4: She's so fun.
7:11
Speaker 3: However, when she's on the show, I feel like Giselle
7:15
Speaker 3: holds the weight of the show on her shoulders and
7:19
Speaker 3: she feels the need to behave in a way that
7:22
Speaker 3: is really going to turn people on her.
7:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the way that I've been seeing people carry
7:28
Speaker 1: on about Gazelle is completely different than I think the
7:31
Speaker 1: Gizelle that I was able to meet when she came
7:34
Speaker 1: on your show. I will say, obviously I only had
7:37
Speaker 1: that experience with her, and I recognize she was coming
7:40
Speaker 1: on your show. I'm an executive producer of your show.
7:43
Speaker 1: There's a level of the quorum that you know, we
7:45
Speaker 1: had with each other. So I think there is a
7:47
Speaker 1: politeness and a kindness there. But I also think that
7:50
Speaker 1: I'm a very good judge of character, and Giselle just
7:52
Speaker 1: didn't come off like a nasty person like. She came
7:56
Speaker 1: off like a very cool, like down to earth woman.
7:59
Speaker 1: And so so you know, hearing what I'm hearing about her,
8:02
Speaker 1: that she's colorless, that she's evil in all of this,
8:07
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a different character. Like it feels
8:11
Speaker 1: like it's a character that she's portraying on television. But again,
8:16
Speaker 1: I can't really say for sure. I only met her
8:18
Speaker 1: for what like an hour and a half, so I
8:19
Speaker 1: don't know if that's how she carries on in her
8:21
Speaker 1: real life outside of situations like this. I think the
8:25
Speaker 1: Chris thing. I do think there are worlds where, like
8:28
Speaker 1: your perception of what's happening is could be uncomfortable. Like
8:31
Speaker 1: whatever did happen with her and Chris? If he made
8:35
Speaker 1: her uncomfortable, that's Giselle's story to tell, right, like none
8:37
Speaker 1: of us can tell her he didn't do it. I
8:40
Speaker 1: think the way that it was blown up was very unfair,
8:42
Speaker 1: and we all know that a lot of people can't
8:45
Speaker 1: you know, think or have discussions with nuance. So it's like,
8:48
Speaker 1: once you say a man tried to be in my
8:51
Speaker 1: room with us alone and made me feel uncomfortable, people
8:54
Speaker 1: are going to automatically assume the worst.
8:55
Speaker 2: And that's what I didn't like about it.
8:57
Speaker 1: It is like, I don't I think there was a
8:58
Speaker 1: point where she did try to Like, I wasn't saying
9:01
Speaker 1: he did anything, It's just how I felt, and I
9:04
Speaker 1: do think that's the right stance to take. But I
9:06
Speaker 1: just think the way it was presented, you can't unring
9:08
Speaker 1: that bell once. Once it's wrung, Once you say what
9:11
Speaker 1: you say, you can't go back and like dial it back.
9:13
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't really like that. You should have presented
9:16
Speaker 2: it that way.
9:17
Speaker 1: Initially, I'm confused, and I think that's why I don't
9:19
Speaker 1: like the show anymore, because I'm like, who are these
9:21
Speaker 1: women really?
9:22
Speaker 2: And truly?
9:23
Speaker 4: Now, listen, you're confused, I'm confused. Think about it. I
9:27
Speaker 4: praised the show.
9:28
Speaker 3: I told my millions of listeners how much I love
9:31
Speaker 3: the show. I gave Gazelle the coveted position and being
9:35
Speaker 3: in the top ten greatest Housewives of all time. So
9:39
Speaker 3: you're not alone, Jasmine in your confusion. As I was
9:42
Speaker 3: watching this season, because I did watch more episodes than you.
9:47
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you.
9:51
Speaker 3: I always said, Jasmine, something's off about this season. So
9:56
Speaker 3: when it was revealed that not only are we confused
10:01
Speaker 3: about this Chris Bassett story, because listen, in Giselle's defense,
10:04
Speaker 3: I have spoken to people who are friends with Giselle,
10:07
Speaker 3: and they also told me that Gazelle told them days
10:11
Speaker 3: after it happened that she did feel uncomfortable. So I
10:13
Speaker 3: want to make people understand that Giselle, in real life,
10:17
Speaker 3: we have mutual friends.
10:18
Speaker 4: Our mutual friends have told me personally.
10:21
Speaker 3: To Gazelle's credit, she did tell us that she felt
10:25
Speaker 3: uncomfortable with Chris.
10:27
Speaker 4: That is a truth.
10:28
Speaker 3: I think the part that gets confusing is she waited
10:32
Speaker 3: over a year to.
10:33
Speaker 4: Talk about it on the show.
10:37
Speaker 3: And although, as a producer myself, yes, we want you
10:41
Speaker 3: to bring things to life to the show, but I
10:44
Speaker 3: think that year and a half gap of not talking
10:47
Speaker 3: about it and Giselle saying, well, I brought it up
10:50
Speaker 3: because Ashley was talking about these dms. It's sort of like, Okay,
10:54
Speaker 3: Ashley had an instant story. She posted a video in
10:58
Speaker 3: her stories responded to Ashley's story and said, why didn't
11:04
Speaker 3: y'all come to the job he works at the w
11:07
Speaker 3: Hotel and party and Ashley allegedly took that to the
11:12
Speaker 3: alleged meeting that the housewives have before filming, and that's
11:16
Speaker 3: how they made this part of the storyline allegedly.
11:19
Speaker 4: Not pre production, Yes, this.
11:21
Speaker 3: Is pre production, and that's what made Giselle allegedly bring
11:26
Speaker 3: up the Chris Bassett thing and they started to put
11:29
Speaker 3: this issue together. So that's why it's confusing Jasmine too,
11:34
Speaker 3: because it did happen over a year ago. To Gizelle's credit,
11:38
Speaker 3: he told people immediately, but she did not tell To
11:42
Speaker 3: your point again, Jazz, if Candace is your friend, why
11:46
Speaker 3: are you telling every Tom, Dick and Harry about this?
11:50
Speaker 3: But you don't tell the woman you claim to be
11:52
Speaker 3: friends with who you're on the show.
11:55
Speaker 1: And if your intentions weren't to make Chris seem like
11:59
Speaker 1: a bad person, why not tell Candace in private without
12:03
Speaker 1: cameras there right, Like, you know, Jiselle's a brilliant woman.
12:07
Speaker 1: She knows what the implications are of telling Candace that
12:10
Speaker 1: about her husband on national television. You know what that
12:14
Speaker 1: was gonna do. So if you really did care for Candace,
12:17
Speaker 1: or if you weren't trying to make it what it became,
12:20
Speaker 1: why not call her right after it happened, like, hey, girl,
12:23
Speaker 1: this just happened. I know Chris is this type of guy,
12:26
Speaker 1: but this did make me feel this way. And as
12:28
Speaker 1: a woman, I'm sure you can understand that because what
12:30
Speaker 1: I also have come to know I think we've all
12:32
Speaker 1: come to know about Candace. She's rational until you activate her,
12:36
Speaker 1: but she's a rational person. So I think Candace would
12:39
Speaker 1: have understood if Giselle called her and said that and
12:41
Speaker 1: even if Candace didn't, y'all can do that over the phone.
12:44
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait until the cameras are rolling
12:46
Speaker 1: to then tell her that, because one you know, is
12:48
Speaker 1: gonna activate her and piss her off. And then you
12:51
Speaker 1: know what that looks like to the rest of us
12:52
Speaker 1: watching like it just it feels dark.
12:54
Speaker 3: No, it does, And what also felt dark was and
12:57
Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw the clips online about.
12:59
Speaker 4: This jazz Mea throwing a drink on Wendy.
13:02
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I always forget that Mia exists, but yet.
13:10
Speaker 4: Damn jazz.
13:11
Speaker 1: Mia did give us a she gave but no, okay,
13:15
Speaker 1: I'll give me a this does a frog have a
13:17
Speaker 1: watertight asshole? I text you that you did so, yes,
13:23
Speaker 1: that thank you for your contribution.
13:26
Speaker 4: And that's it.
13:29
Speaker 1: It feels like she's always trying too hard. And we
13:33
Speaker 1: talked about this when we were having the discussion about
13:36
Speaker 1: Real Housewives Orange County and Noela right, like, they have
13:40
Speaker 1: the makings of really good housewives, but they are trying
13:43
Speaker 1: too hard and it's just coming off very inauthentic and
13:46
Speaker 1: just hard to follow, hard to relate to, hard to like,
13:50
Speaker 1: hard to like, hard to like on the show.
13:52
Speaker 3: For me, when you saw her throw a drink on
13:55
Speaker 3: Wendy and you saw the aftermath, because again, I'm pretty
13:58
Speaker 3: sure you saw the clips of it, or.
14:00
Speaker 4: Did you not.
14:00
Speaker 1: I want to say I have seen the clip of
14:03
Speaker 1: that happen because she threw it kind of like backhandidly,
14:05
Speaker 1: like she was sitting next to Wendy.
14:07
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I've seen that clip.
14:09
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, she threw it to her faith and she
14:11
Speaker 3: did it, and then she tried to hit.
14:13
Speaker 4: Her with her purse. She tried to like, no, I know.
14:16
Speaker 3: This is the reason why I got upset about that.
14:19
Speaker 3: And me and dj Ritchie Sky did a recap about
14:23
Speaker 3: that episode, and he felt so strongly too, how disgusting
14:26
Speaker 3: and dark it was. We all agreed to that Mia
14:30
Speaker 3: took her purse and was trying to hit Wendy with
14:34
Speaker 3: her purse.
14:34
Speaker 2: That's guttersnipe behavior.
14:37
Speaker 4: Not guttersnipe Jasmine.
14:39
Speaker 3: It got so bad that Wendy's employer, John Hopkins University
14:44
Speaker 3: child They put a black car up and said this
14:47
Speaker 3: university has no connection to the real housewats of Potomac.
14:50
Speaker 2: Wait where did they put that?
14:52
Speaker 4: They put that? You know how you put the black
14:53
Speaker 4: car up at the end.
14:55
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm the TV I think.
14:58
Speaker 4: On the TV screen.
14:59
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, but you don't. I don't want
15:02
Speaker 1: to harp on the past. What was the reaction to
15:05
Speaker 1: their coworkers after this happened, Because I really want to
15:08
Speaker 1: draw a line.
15:10
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm gonna tell you something, Jasmine. Let me
15:13
Speaker 4: tell you what happened first.
15:14
Speaker 3: So, after Mia through a drink on Wendy, Robin took
15:18
Speaker 3: her phone out and started recording it, and there were
15:21
Speaker 3: numerous shots of Robin laughing at what was going on
15:26
Speaker 3: in front of her. Then Giselle was eating her dinner
15:31
Speaker 3: and telling what Wendy was. Of course, you know, listen,
15:35
Speaker 3: a black girl got a drink thrown, so of course
15:38
Speaker 3: you're reacting like black folks do.
15:41
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna beat her. You know, I'm gonna do this.
15:42
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do that.
15:43
Speaker 3: That was Wendy's natural reaction, right so as any black
15:48
Speaker 3: woman in that situation done the same thing.
15:50
Speaker 4: I'm about to whoop her boom boom.
15:52
Speaker 3: Even Phaedra, who has esquad after her last name, tried
15:56
Speaker 3: to be like an esther and get her purse and
15:58
Speaker 3: hit Kenya with it. Because when a black girl is
16:02
Speaker 3: and that things happen, so Gizelle should know that she
16:05
Speaker 3: went to an HBCU.
16:06
Speaker 1: When a person physically a tax you, that should be
16:09
Speaker 1: your next go to to defend yourself.
16:12
Speaker 4: Is I know a child.
16:13
Speaker 3: Some of these Bisley Hills housewives don't, so any who,
16:16
Speaker 3: Wendy was saying that and Gizelle was like, she might
16:19
Speaker 3: hit you back.
16:20
Speaker 4: You know you need to sit down paraphrasing.
16:22
Speaker 3: A few days later after that aired, I saw Giselle
16:26
Speaker 3: at Portia's wedding. Me and Giselle said next to each
16:30
Speaker 3: other at Porsia's Nigerian wedding.
16:32
Speaker 4: Because me and Giselle are friends.
16:34
Speaker 3: I will never disclose a private conversation to the public,
16:37
Speaker 3: but what I will share with you, Jasmine and the
16:40
Speaker 3: listeners is the fact that I really took that moment
16:44
Speaker 3: and told Giselle how I felt, and I was very
16:49
Speaker 3: sincere with.
16:50
Speaker 4: Giselle, who I love.
16:52
Speaker 3: I really had a real deep conversation with Giselle. And
16:56
Speaker 3: the only thing I will say is at the very end,
16:59
Speaker 3: jose Yelle had her rebuttal to me, right, because.
17:03
Speaker 4: That's what friends do.
17:04
Speaker 3: Me and Jasmine always have rebuttals because I feel like
17:06
Speaker 3: when you're passionate about something you just It's not always
17:09
Speaker 3: like yes, ma'am, yes, sorry, no, you have a rebuttal
17:12
Speaker 3: to Jaselle's credit. At the very end of our conversation,
17:16
Speaker 3: Giselle said, I see your point.
17:19
Speaker 4: I got you, and I.
17:21
Speaker 3: Wanted to share that because I know Gizelle gets a
17:24
Speaker 3: lot of flack and I have had numerous moments of
17:27
Speaker 3: being disappointed with Giselle numerous If a friend can't be
17:31
Speaker 3: real with you, you don't want to grow. And my concern
17:36
Speaker 3: for Gizelle is she doesn't have many or any people
17:42
Speaker 3: around her Jasmin who can tell her like.
17:45
Speaker 4: You need to stop.
17:47
Speaker 3: And when I say that, I mean it's the circle
17:49
Speaker 3: of friends you're around. Robin, if that's your best friend,
17:53
Speaker 3: both of y'all should be holding each other account of Bell.
17:55
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be Carlos King, and it should also be
17:58
Speaker 3: the production.
18:00
Speaker 2: Can Robin hold her accountable?
18:01
Speaker 1: Robin feels the same way and holds the same views,
18:03
Speaker 1: It's impossible. My expectation isn't for Robin to hold Jozel
18:07
Speaker 1: accountable for anything. Like I said, it's a character that
18:11
Speaker 1: she's playing. That's why it's like really hard to just
18:13
Speaker 1: get with. You know, at this point, we know reality TV.
18:17
Speaker 1: That's a loose term, right, yes, But her saying I
18:21
Speaker 1: see your point at the end of your talk at
18:22
Speaker 1: Portia's wedding speaks to the person that I met when
18:25
Speaker 1: she came to do your show. She seems reasonable, right,
18:28
Speaker 1: she seems nice, kind, Right, That's not the person that
18:32
Speaker 1: people are experiencing on Potomac. And again I say, which
18:37
Speaker 1: one is the real? Will the real Zelle Bryant please
18:40
Speaker 1: stand up.
18:42
Speaker 2: For real?
18:43
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it, like show yourself, because
18:46
Speaker 1: she seems like such a likable person when she's not
18:49
Speaker 1: playing the Giselle on potomach I think her even just
18:52
Speaker 1: kind of encouraging. Wendy and MIA's kind of feud is
18:56
Speaker 1: also very contradictory because with my Nique in Candace Spot
19:01
Speaker 1: it was, y'all, are you know representing black women wrong?
19:05
Speaker 1: And I forgot all the ship she pulled bringing security
19:08
Speaker 1: around her. Did she bring security with her the next
19:11
Speaker 1: time she was around Mia? I'm gonna assume.
19:13
Speaker 4: No, no.
19:14
Speaker 3: And then Mia was allowed to stay in the house
19:17
Speaker 3: after the fight and Wendy had to go into a
19:19
Speaker 3: hotel room.
19:20
Speaker 1: So, Yumana, tell me you had a dangerous violence, aggressive
19:25
Speaker 1: tall woman with huge feet according to the Candace, you
19:28
Speaker 1: let that person come in the house and stay with you.
19:30
Speaker 1: But Monique and Candace are making black women look bad.
19:34
Speaker 1: What is Mia doing?
19:36
Speaker 2: What is MEA doing?
19:37
Speaker 1: Because it's the same situation, same setting. She's aggressive because
19:41
Speaker 1: according to you know what I've been seeing on Twitter,
19:43
Speaker 1: she also is very shady for pay. She chased her
19:45
Speaker 1: best friends and her people. That's aggressive. Hashtag aggressive Mia.
19:52
Speaker 1: She's taken that from Ashley from around marriag JC. It's
19:55
Speaker 1: aggressive Mia.
19:57
Speaker 3: Exactly instead of aggressive Ashley A love it bat DC
20:01
Speaker 3: jas was calling her aggressive via Heypotomac. No, Jasmine, you
20:06
Speaker 3: just said something and the light bulb in my head
20:09
Speaker 3: went off when you said that, it's shade for pay.
20:14
Speaker 4: And I'm going to tell you this.
20:16
Speaker 3: You have perfectly coined a term that fits how these
20:23
Speaker 3: new reality stars are so desperate for a moment that
20:28
Speaker 3: they no longer want to showcase what's really happening in
20:32
Speaker 3: their lives because they feel like, if I'm on TV,
20:35
Speaker 3: it is shade for pay. And I can be hard
20:38
Speaker 3: on the on the reality stars. As a producer, I
20:41
Speaker 3: also have to be hard on the producers. And the
20:45
Speaker 3: only thing I want for Giselle is to get on
20:48
Speaker 3: camera and have a moment of humility to say I
20:54
Speaker 3: was wrong, Wendy, I was wrong.
20:57
Speaker 4: I was wrong. I was being duplicitous. You're right. I
21:01
Speaker 4: should have kept that same energy. I'm not perfect. I'm wrong.
21:04
Speaker 3: Giselle, if you're listening, and the producers too. This is
21:07
Speaker 3: a two person job. Jasmine was my EP on Reality
21:12
Speaker 3: with the King for almost a year, and she would
21:16
Speaker 3: even say to me, I don't like that.
21:18
Speaker 4: You said that.
21:19
Speaker 3: I don't like that, or hey, you said something, but
21:23
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you knew how people are gonna
21:25
Speaker 3: take it. I said to her, Oh my gosh, yes,
21:28
Speaker 3: oh that wasn't my intention, though she said, oh, I didn't.
21:30
Speaker 4: Think it was. But I'm just I'm helping you.
21:33
Speaker 3: But this intelligent black woman who I love and trust,
21:37
Speaker 3: checked me, and I allowed myself to be censored.
21:42
Speaker 4: I allowed myself to be checked.
21:44
Speaker 3: And if you want to row with the big dogs,
21:46
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to allow people to check you.
21:50
Speaker 2: Who.
21:50
Speaker 4: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more.
21:53
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these quick asss. This is
22:04
Speaker 3: Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get
22:07
Speaker 3: back into the show. Allegedly, some of the Potomac Girls
22:12
Speaker 3: are mad because of my recent comments about colorism, and
22:18
Speaker 3: how I was so disappointed that they spoke about this
22:22
Speaker 3: important topic for two minutes on the show. And let's
22:25
Speaker 3: be clear, the reason why I wanted more of a
22:28
Speaker 3: discourse about this is because the colorism accusations have been
22:31
Speaker 3: happening for three years. It's not like you just came
22:35
Speaker 3: up last week. It's been happening for three years. So
22:40
Speaker 3: to address it only for two minutes is why I
22:43
Speaker 3: was disturbed, and I wanted to see some humility from Giselle,
22:48
Speaker 3: Karen Robin, and Mia to say, it's our job as
22:54
Speaker 3: life skinned women to listen to really see your point
22:58
Speaker 3: of view, so that we can see that maybe subconsciously
23:03
Speaker 3: we are doing something that we didn't know we were doing.
23:05
Speaker 3: We're not colorists, but maybe our behavior is aligning with that,
23:11
Speaker 3: and for that we apologize.
23:12
Speaker 4: But none of that happened, Jasmine, because I.
23:15
Speaker 1: Think the idea of colorism, and be clear, I'm very
23:19
Speaker 1: very cautious about assigning anyism to people because I understand
23:25
Speaker 1: when you're on a reality TV show, we're only getting
23:30
Speaker 1: little bits and pieces of what has actually occurred, and
23:34
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the producers have done this, but
23:38
Speaker 1: they can edit anyway they want. Now, what they can't
23:41
Speaker 1: edit is what you are actually doing and actually saying.
23:44
Speaker 1: But they can splice shit together to make it look
23:47
Speaker 1: like something like we've seen it over the years.
23:49
Speaker 2: Right.
23:50
Speaker 1: And so while they might not come out and say
23:53
Speaker 1: I am colorists, I think what they could have done
23:56
Speaker 1: will say I understand how I could be perpetuating colorism.
24:00
Speaker 2: I recognized that.
24:01
Speaker 1: My treatment of Wendy when aggressive Mia attacked her was
24:08
Speaker 1: very different than when I saw Monique and Candice have
24:10
Speaker 1: a fight. I recognized that I had a different reaction,
24:13
Speaker 1: and I can understand how that may be perceived as colorism.
24:17
Speaker 1: I am not a colorist person, but I can understand
24:20
Speaker 1: one how I benefited from colorism into how I can
24:23
Speaker 1: perpetuate it.
24:24
Speaker 2: And had they just said that, I.
24:27
Speaker 3: Think they need to hire Jasmin Hilly Brown to be
24:29
Speaker 3: producer and potoma now and listen, I'm not saying that's
24:31
Speaker 3: a two throw shade. Yeah, and again listen the moment
24:35
Speaker 3: I saw this podcast, thanks to Jasmine, she and I
24:38
Speaker 3: had a conversation. I said, as long as I'm honest,
24:41
Speaker 3: I don't care about what people are going to say
24:43
Speaker 3: about me, I have to stay within my honesty and
24:46
Speaker 3: me being genuine. The reason why I said that, Jasmine
24:49
Speaker 3: about you may be needing to join the production. They're
24:53
Speaker 3: going to need someone that is able to keep it
24:57
Speaker 3: real with them, the way you kept it real to
24:59
Speaker 3: me in our personal relationship, the way you were so
25:02
Speaker 3: able to like beautifully articulate the messaging of what I
25:08
Speaker 3: was trying to say. But again, I'm not a dark
25:11
Speaker 3: skinned black woman, and I have a knowledge that I'm
25:15
Speaker 3: still learning about my privilege being a light skinned man
25:19
Speaker 3: and what that brought me in my life.
25:22
Speaker 4: But I at least will always say I don't know.
25:25
Speaker 3: I'm here to do better, and it's not my intention
25:28
Speaker 3: but my behavior, I could do better. And I think
25:31
Speaker 3: to your point, so wonderfully, that's all we wanted, And
25:35
Speaker 3: I wish that they had somebody who looks like you,
25:38
Speaker 3: who has your experience of diversity in life, to be
25:42
Speaker 3: able to say to them, Hey, I'm going to say
25:45
Speaker 3: something to y'all that y'all may not like, but this
25:47
Speaker 3: is going to help you in the long run.
25:49
Speaker 4: It's one or two things happening. Either no one is
25:51
Speaker 4: there telling them this, or you.
25:53
Speaker 3: Girls some of y'all are so egotistical that you don't
25:59
Speaker 3: want to change. And if you don't change, my fear
26:02
Speaker 3: is that you guys are in your Real Housewives of
26:06
Speaker 3: Atlanta era, meaning the latter seasons and what I mean
26:08
Speaker 3: by that, and this is my opinion.
26:10
Speaker 4: The show's in trouble. Jasmin was a fan of the
26:12
Speaker 4: show and said she stopped watching it entirely, and.
26:15
Speaker 1: I have no plans to go back to watch it. Yeah,
26:18
Speaker 1: I do want to follow up on a couple of
26:20
Speaker 1: things you said. One, I did not know that you
26:22
Speaker 1: consider yourself light skin.
26:24
Speaker 4: Oh well, let's talk about it.
26:26
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm rocking, I'm rolling.
26:29
Speaker 4: No, this was crazy. I as Carlos King, the human being.
26:33
Speaker 4: I don't.
26:34
Speaker 2: Okay.
26:35
Speaker 3: However, some people in the world do. And I had
26:40
Speaker 3: to learn the true story my.
26:42
Speaker 4: Man, because I'd be like, yeah, you know, it's a
26:44
Speaker 4: brown skin.
26:45
Speaker 3: He said you think you brown? I said I am brown.
26:47
Speaker 3: He said your light skin. And then I get that
26:49
Speaker 3: a lot. So to your to your credit, I don't.
26:54
Speaker 3: The world does. And it's sort of like how Halle
26:57
Speaker 3: Berry's mother told her, yes, you're by racial, how you're
27:00
Speaker 3: a black woman, because that's how the world will perceive you.
27:03
Speaker 3: So that's why I had to all of a sudden
27:05
Speaker 3: because again I'm listening. I was always told that because
27:09
Speaker 3: you're not dark skin or dark brown, the world will
27:14
Speaker 3: look at your skin and say you're light just by
27:17
Speaker 3: courtesy of you not being a dark skinned man.
27:19
Speaker 1: I always find conversations around colorism so interesting because I
27:24
Speaker 1: didn't grow up thinking that being dark was like a
27:27
Speaker 1: bad thing. I have cousins who are very, very light,
27:30
Speaker 1: and they always like made fun of each other for
27:32
Speaker 1: being like really really light. I won't repeat the names
27:34
Speaker 1: that they've called each other because they're very problematic, but
27:38
Speaker 1: they always I grew up watching them like torment each
27:41
Speaker 1: other about being light. And then my mother when I
27:44
Speaker 1: was growing up, every time I would ask her, like
27:46
Speaker 1: what her favorite color was, she would be like chocolate brown,
27:48
Speaker 1: like you right, So like I always grew up with
27:51
Speaker 1: my skin color being affirm like feeling like I was
27:55
Speaker 1: so beautiful and so cute, even when I know I
27:57
Speaker 1: looked awkward because I look back at photos.
27:59
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mom, I look funny.
28:02
Speaker 1: She's like, no, you beautiful, Like you always are beautiful, right,
28:05
Speaker 1: So I've always grown up having kind of my skin
28:09
Speaker 1: color or whatever affirmed, and so I really didn't understand
28:12
Speaker 1: that colorism was like a real thing until I want
28:14
Speaker 1: to say, my teen year. So I do think I
28:17
Speaker 1: have an advantage in a way of like looking at it,
28:19
Speaker 1: and I think to some people it is a little naive, because,
28:21
Speaker 1: like I said, I wouldn't go off the rip and
28:23
Speaker 1: just accuse all the light skinned women on Potomac of
28:26
Speaker 1: being colorists. I think that they have displayed colorist views
28:31
Speaker 1: and they perpetuated colorism, yes, but I think my view
28:34
Speaker 1: on it is a little different, And it's not to
28:36
Speaker 1: take away from the experiences, because I know it's not
28:38
Speaker 1: common right that, like when you're dark skinned to grow
28:42
Speaker 1: up to be made to feel like you are the
28:43
Speaker 1: most beautiful person to ever walk the planet.
28:45
Speaker 2: But my parents made me feel like that.
28:48
Speaker 1: When I am articulating a message that Giselle and Robin
28:51
Speaker 1: and Mia and Karen, what they could have said is
28:54
Speaker 1: coming from a place of like I'm looking at this
28:56
Speaker 1: with the bird's eye view, and like just say that
28:59
Speaker 1: you were aware, or you didn't look at it that way,
29:03
Speaker 1: or you weren't trying.
29:04
Speaker 2: To be colorist. That's a better way to say it.
29:06
Speaker 1: Like we all are gonna make mistakes, and we all
29:09
Speaker 1: perpetuate privileges that we hold also people that don't hold
29:14
Speaker 1: those those same privileges, And so all you have to
29:17
Speaker 1: do is just acknowledge that I was perpetuating that, and
29:19
Speaker 1: I know what it looked like, but that wasn't my attention.
29:22
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, And let Wendy throw a drink back
29:25
Speaker 1: on me, get your on my up.
29:27
Speaker 2: I can look back, because.
29:34
Speaker 4: That's how it really is.
29:37
Speaker 3: So but you said something, and we're gonna wrap things
29:39
Speaker 3: up though you said that you have no plans on
29:43
Speaker 3: going back to watch the next season of Potomac, and
29:46
Speaker 3: I would love to know why.
29:48
Speaker 2: I am not interested.
29:50
Speaker 1: None of the kind of discourse on social media has
29:53
Speaker 1: gotten me interested. It just it feels like there's a
29:56
Speaker 1: formula right now with specifically with the Real Housewives. There's
30:00
Speaker 1: a formula, and I don't like what that formula is.
30:03
Speaker 1: It's like, let's pick and this is if you watch
30:07
Speaker 1: every city, this is happening across cities. Let's pick one
30:10
Speaker 1: person this season and try to ruin their fucking lives. Like,
30:14
Speaker 1: let's pick one person and let's make them regret the day.
30:18
Speaker 2: They were born.
30:18
Speaker 1: Type of thing like it might not be that dramatic,
30:21
Speaker 1: but as a viewer, I'm watching this and I'm just
30:24
Speaker 1: like every city, there's one person that is like just
30:27
Speaker 1: having the worst time of it, and it's like it
30:29
Speaker 1: doesn't feel fun. Like I said, it feels like they're
30:32
Speaker 1: out to just ruin each other's lives for the sake
30:34
Speaker 1: of what like being the favorites on a Reddit thread
30:37
Speaker 1: or being the favorites on social media.
30:39
Speaker 2: Like it's not that deep.
30:40
Speaker 1: Just go back to like talking about each other's hair
30:43
Speaker 1: and like the freaking welcome mats in front of your
30:46
Speaker 1: doors and pressure washing your houses. Like go back to
30:49
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, because that is a show that
30:52
Speaker 1: I will watch.
30:53
Speaker 3: Married to Media Marriati, Battistan is really the best show
30:57
Speaker 3: on Bravo.
30:57
Speaker 4: But I cannot agree with you more.
30:59
Speaker 3: And that's why, again I have to speak on the
31:02
Speaker 3: basis of being a producer. That's why I'm very picky
31:06
Speaker 3: about producers are hire because a lot of the new
31:08
Speaker 3: producers are fans of the show. And that's fine to
31:11
Speaker 3: be a fan of of these of these reality shows,
31:14
Speaker 3: but they want the low hanging fruit. They want the altercation,
31:17
Speaker 3: they want the constant arguments, and I feel like we
31:21
Speaker 3: need to get back to what old Atlanta used to be.
31:24
Speaker 4: When you know you saw Nini talk to her son.
31:28
Speaker 3: About not living up to you know, being an adult
31:32
Speaker 3: in the house, you know where you saw even look
31:36
Speaker 3: no Shay, you saw Kenya have a really special moment
31:41
Speaker 3: of trying to find her mom in Detroit and knocking
31:44
Speaker 3: on the doors. That shade for pay is dope in
31:47
Speaker 3: terms of how you coined it, because I've always said
31:51
Speaker 3: it's not a shade contest. It's now how can I
31:55
Speaker 3: eviscerate you verbally? How can I have these one liners?
32:00
Speaker 3: I can to make a k O T shirt and
32:02
Speaker 3: sell my merch and it's no longer about relationships. I
32:06
Speaker 3: don't think you guys understand it's a big deal for
32:09
Speaker 3: Jasmine to say that she has no interest in watching
32:12
Speaker 3: Potomac because she and I met on the basis of
32:15
Speaker 3: like loving that show together.
32:17
Speaker 4: Yes, and it saddens me to hear that.
32:20
Speaker 3: But my hope is that the casts who are listening,
32:24
Speaker 3: I really want y'all to talk about this episode and
32:27
Speaker 3: to really listen to Jasmine's point of view, because true
32:30
Speaker 3: t I had no idea what Jasmine was going to say.
32:33
Speaker 3: I text her yesterday I said his last minute, can
32:36
Speaker 3: you join me? I don't want to do this by myself.
32:38
Speaker 3: I would love to do it with you. I am
32:41
Speaker 3: getting this in real time, what Jasmine is saying. So
32:44
Speaker 3: this was not like prepped, and unlike y'all, we didn't
32:48
Speaker 3: have a script. So I really hope, Shade, I really
32:51
Speaker 3: hope that they listened to you. So what would it
32:54
Speaker 3: take for you to watch Potomac again?
32:58
Speaker 2: Unpopular opinion?
33:01
Speaker 1: Get rid of everyone except Candice?
33:07
Speaker 4: Not explain?
33:10
Speaker 1: So Giselle and Robin have the same formula, and they're
33:14
Speaker 1: not going to give us more than what they've given
33:17
Speaker 1: us already. I think the last season when we saw
33:20
Speaker 1: like Gazelle dating, I think his name was Sherman, and
33:24
Speaker 1: someone brought Sherman's ex and I think that embarrassed Gazelle
33:28
Speaker 1: so badly. I don't think we're ever getting real storylines
33:31
Speaker 1: about her love life, which is what people want to see,
33:34
Speaker 1: because that's that's where you know, the most drama lies
33:37
Speaker 1: for her. That's the thing when people want to come
33:39
Speaker 1: for Gazelle, that's what you don't have a man. You
33:41
Speaker 1: can't keep a man, right. We want to see her date,
33:44
Speaker 1: and you know, we want to see the ups and
33:46
Speaker 1: downs of that. But she's not going to give us that,
33:48
Speaker 1: so she's gone because of that. While I do as
33:51
Speaker 1: a reality TV personality, Gizelle is good. If she was
33:55
Speaker 1: willing to like not be such a this one note character,
33:59
Speaker 1: she was going to give us real shit, Giselle could say.
34:02
Speaker 2: But she's not, so she can go.
34:03
Speaker 4: Robin.
34:04
Speaker 1: I used to call Robin Robin paint dry Dixon because
34:09
Speaker 1: I just wasn't entertained. Now what I've heard though, is
34:12
Speaker 1: that this year she has been bringing it. But for me,
34:16
Speaker 1: it's too little, too late. Now I know all the
34:18
Speaker 1: things are happening. I know I'm never I'm never gonna
34:21
Speaker 1: work in this town again.
34:25
Speaker 4: No, that's the gag.
34:26
Speaker 3: Because of that, you are going to mark if that's
34:30
Speaker 3: the gag.
34:32
Speaker 1: I think for Robin, she has these things going on
34:35
Speaker 1: with Want's case and like him cheating and.
34:38
Speaker 2: All of that.
34:38
Speaker 1: I feel like this is not the stuff that's going
34:40
Speaker 1: on with Want's case, but the cheating in the marriage.
34:42
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of a last ditch effort.
34:46
Speaker 1: But I just I don't believe it. I don't feel it.
34:48
Speaker 1: I just don't really see it. For Robin, I never
34:50
Speaker 1: have to be honest, that's my bias showing. Like she said,
34:53
Speaker 1: she she doesn't like Wendy. That's why she wasn't defending
34:55
Speaker 1: why I don't enjoy Robin as a character on the show.
34:58
Speaker 1: So she can go for me, she could to have
35:01
Speaker 1: gone a long time ago. Mia can go. I don't
35:06
Speaker 1: need to say too much more about that, but Mia, bye, sweetie.
35:12
Speaker 1: I genuinely think that Wendy is an amazing person, and
35:16
Speaker 1: I think she's so smart, she is beautiful. I just
35:18
Speaker 1: think reality TV is gonna push Wendy to a place
35:21
Speaker 1: that she's not gonna be able to recover from in
35:23
Speaker 1: terms of like who she really wants to be in
35:26
Speaker 1: this world. And so for that reason, I think she
35:28
Speaker 1: could go. It's not that I don't enjoy her, but
35:30
Speaker 1: I think she wants to be perceived as something that
35:34
Speaker 1: reality TV is not going to allow her to be. Karen, listen,
35:40
Speaker 1: I love the Grandame, but she can go for me.
35:43
Speaker 2: She can go.
35:44
Speaker 1: She's en daring, but it's not giving iconic and legendary
35:48
Speaker 1: like it was the first couple of seasons. Karen has
35:50
Speaker 1: done what she needed to do for this franchise, and
35:52
Speaker 1: she can bow out gracefully. That's where I'm going with
35:55
Speaker 1: Karen and who is left Ashley forgot about her too,
36:00
Speaker 1: you know what, I take that back, actually, because we
36:03
Speaker 1: love a good train wreck Candace and Ashley can say
36:07
Speaker 1: because Ashley, I need to. I think there's a lot
36:11
Speaker 1: more there with Ashley's story, and I think Ashley is
36:15
Speaker 1: also very inauthentic in the way she shows up on
36:18
Speaker 1: the show as well. But I do think that there
36:21
Speaker 1: is a lot more to go with her story and
36:24
Speaker 1: her children and stuff like that. So I think keep Candace,
36:26
Speaker 1: keep Ashley, get some more like older women, because I
36:29
Speaker 1: realized Candace Ashley are very young and like housewives speak,
36:33
Speaker 1: So maybe we get some other older women to and
36:37
Speaker 1: build a cast around that. But you're the executive producer,
36:40
Speaker 1: what do you think of my analysis?
36:47
Speaker 3: I really need to think about this because I will
36:49
Speaker 3: say this prior to you saying that this is why
36:52
Speaker 3: I love you, because you and I always think of
36:55
Speaker 3: like I did say, Giselle is never ever, ever, ever
37:00
Speaker 3: bringing on a man she loves on the show anymore
37:04
Speaker 3: after Sherman, I said, after Sherman that was heartbreaking for
37:08
Speaker 3: her because I was told behind the scenes Giselle was
37:12
Speaker 3: really in love with Sherman like really in love with him,
37:16
Speaker 3: and he left allegedly because he said, oh I'm a baby,
37:23
Speaker 3: I ain't doing this, it ain't worth it, so he left.
37:25
Speaker 3: So I agree with you there. I've always said I
37:27
Speaker 3: think it's Ashley's time to go. I really want to
37:30
Speaker 3: think about the rest up until you said that, I
37:33
Speaker 3: only said let Ashley go, and I said, I only
37:36
Speaker 3: think Robin should stay on the show, only ever getting
37:39
Speaker 3: every single thing.
37:40
Speaker 4: Between her and Wan.
37:42
Speaker 3: Wan must film, He must come to the reunion like
37:46
Speaker 3: he must give us all day.
37:47
Speaker 4: If he's not, Robie can go.
37:49
Speaker 3: And the thing with Giselle, who I love, Giselle's gonna
37:52
Speaker 3: have to change. Gazelle's going to have to take off
37:55
Speaker 3: her producer hat and give us some ulnerable moments. Do
37:59
Speaker 3: I think Gisel is in love? That went the house guy?
38:02
Speaker 4: No?
38:02
Speaker 1: When I saw that, I said, stop playing in my face,
38:06
Speaker 1: Please stop playing with me. And what reality we talked
38:09
Speaker 1: about this before when it was Heather and Gina hanging out,
38:13
Speaker 1: And what reality does that matchup actually happen and actually work?
38:17
Speaker 1: And what reality does Gisel Bryant, Giselle Kobe Bryant work
38:25
Speaker 1: hang out with this man and be.
38:28
Speaker 2: In a serious relationship and love him.
38:30
Speaker 1: When Giselle told us a couple of seasons ago what
38:32
Speaker 1: she likes, I think she said, a dark skinned man,
38:35
Speaker 1: hung like a horse, lots of money.
38:39
Speaker 2: That man is not chocolate.
38:42
Speaker 1: I don't know what his Genna Telia looks like, but
38:44
Speaker 1: what I can tell you from the looks of it,
38:47
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like he has the coin for Giselle.
38:49
Speaker 2: And that's no shade to him. He's a young man,
38:51
Speaker 2: though he's a you.
38:53
Speaker 1: His money isn't long enough for what I think Giselle
38:55
Speaker 1: is kind of requiring. Now, Giselle has just gotten to
38:58
Speaker 1: the point in her life where she's like, look, I'm
39:00
Speaker 1: trying to have some fun. I'm trying to wear my
39:02
Speaker 1: whistle from time to time. Okay, that's believable to me,
39:06
Speaker 1: but not as a serious contender, like stop playing me
39:09
Speaker 1: with that.
39:09
Speaker 4: No, that was the thing.
39:10
Speaker 3: It was like, stop again. Gizelle likes a dark skinned man,
39:14
Speaker 3: she said out her own mouth. And the other thing
39:16
Speaker 3: Jasmine said, So that's why Potomac, to me, is in trouble,
39:20
Speaker 3: because they're going to have to have truly a real
39:24
Speaker 3: sit down about what they're willing to give. And based
39:27
Speaker 3: upon that Jasmine is when I would say, as a producer,
39:30
Speaker 3: you can stay, you.
39:31
Speaker 4: Can go, you can go.
39:33
Speaker 3: I think whose job are safe is Candace and Wendy
39:36
Speaker 3: because I think Candice and Wendy are willing to give
39:39
Speaker 3: everything to the show, and I feel like they want to,
39:42
Speaker 3: but they're working with women who want to just have
39:46
Speaker 3: one storyline of how can we embarrass you the most?
39:52
Speaker 3: And people are over it. So you heard it here
39:54
Speaker 3: from Jasmine and Carlos. In order to make Potomac great again,
39:58
Speaker 3: Let's just say a lot of changes are going to have.
40:02
Speaker 1: To be made in order to make Potomac great again.
40:05
Speaker 1: You got to make Potomac real again.
40:07
Speaker 4: And there you have it.
40:08
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Jasmine Heley Brown. I know you private child,
40:11
Speaker 3: but if you want to, honey, let the folks know
40:13
Speaker 3: where they can find you and follow you and support you.
40:16
Speaker 2: Listen, don't follow me, don't find me.
40:19
Speaker 1: Go and subscribe to the podcast that I executive produced,
40:22
Speaker 1: It's Giving Fashion with the shaik Cule. You can find
40:26
Speaker 1: that wherever you get your podcasts. Also, subscribe and follow
40:29
Speaker 1: the Social Dose. It is your daily dose of everything
40:32
Speaker 1: that's going on in social media. It's like the yesification
40:35
Speaker 1: of social media. News honey, So get into those, follow
40:38
Speaker 1: those and support those, and there.
40:40
Speaker 4: You have it. Thank you, Jeff, You're welcome. Thank you
40:48
Speaker 4: for listening to Reality with the King.
40:50
Speaker 3: New episodes drop every Tuesday, Share, comment, follow, and subscribe
40:56
Speaker 3: to Reality with the King. Wherever you get your podcast,
41:00
Speaker 3: visit realitywithe King dot com and be sure to follow
41:04
Speaker 3: me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok
41:09
Speaker 3: and Yes Baby, my YouTube channel where you can get
41:12
Speaker 3: all of my visuals, baby, my expressions, Yes, and don't
41:16
Speaker 3: forget Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes about this
41:20
Speaker 3: episode using the hashtag Reality with the King. Reality with
41:26
Speaker 3: the King is a production.
41:28
Speaker 4: Of Kingdom Rain Entertainment.
41:30
Speaker 3: It is produced by Sierrace Fragley Rix An executive produced.
41:35
Speaker 4: By Me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment. Baby, Yes,