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- 0:01Did you know that 90 % of the world's millionaires
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- 0:56You're already taking the first step. just by
- 1:00joining us here today. Why whole life? Well,
- 1:05it's been around for well over 160 years and
- 1:08it has grown. The cash values in these policies
- 1:11have grown on a guaranteed basis every year.
- 1:16that it's been in existence. The dividends have
- 1:18been paid by the companies that I work with for
- 1:20over 100 years, every single year. So that means
- 1:24you think about what's happened in the last 100
- 1:26years, the formation of the Federal Reserve,
- 1:30World War I, the Great Depression, World War
- 1:32II, right? Every crisis in our history, when
- 1:35these companies pay out a dividend, it's because
- 1:37they've performed better than projected. So what
- 1:40would you think about a company who's performed
- 1:42better than projected every single year? for
- 1:45over 100 years of their existence. Very solid
- 1:48companies. The overall yields over the long haul
- 1:52will beat other cash equivalents or other very
- 1:54safe places where you can park cash. And it provides
- 1:57liquid access to cash that you can then use for
- 2:01your investment activities and become your own
- 2:03source of financing. And then of course it's
- 2:06life insurance. So ultimately there's a death
- 2:08benefit that will pass that legacy onto your
- 2:11family. Now I'm not talking about the old fashioned
- 2:14whole life insurance that you may have heard
- 2:16about or you may have heard folks like Dave Ramsey
- 2:19talk about. These are modernized designs where
- 2:23we use special writers that are funded in the
- 2:25right ratios and proportions that create large
- 2:28cash value accumulation even in the very early
- 2:31years of the policy, the first year even. These
- 2:34are mutual companies where you own the profits.
- 2:36That's why you're getting the dividends back.
- 2:39Your gains are locked in and predictable. You
- 2:41know the value of that policy or that plan at
- 2:44any point in time. You can then borrow from the
- 2:46policy and it will grow as if you never touched
- 2:49a dime of it in the background. We'll refer to
- 2:52these as bank on yourself policies as we go through
- 2:54this. Let's simplify it. How exactly does this
- 2:58work? Well, first thing we have is you or I,
- 3:01the policy owner. And we have an insurance company
- 3:04and we're going to buy a whole life insurance
- 3:08policy that has been structured and designed
- 3:11the correct way for the bank on yourself approach.
- 3:15And so then as a policy owner, let's say we identify
- 3:18a real estate investment. It could be anything.
- 3:20It could be multifamily, could be single family,
- 3:23could be a flip. It could be a syndication. It
- 3:25could be virtually any kind of investment. And
- 3:28we now want some funding. for that investment
- 3:31opportunity. So we call up our life insurance
- 3:33company and we say, hey, I hear we can take loans
- 3:36with these policies. So what do I need to do
- 3:39to qualify? Well, the life insurance company
- 3:42is going to say, what's your policy number? You
- 3:44give them the policy number and they say, OK,
- 3:46you have a policy. It has cash value in it. You
- 3:48qualify. That's the only qualification. All right.
- 3:51You have a policy with cash value and you go,
- 3:54okay, great. How much could I borrow? And the
- 3:56insurance company says, well, you can borrow
- 3:58about 90 % of whatever your cash value is. And
- 4:01you say, okay, cool. I'll take a hundred thousand
- 4:03dollars. And they say, okay, great. We're going
- 4:05to send you some forms. You're going to sign
- 4:07the form so that we can direct deposit that into
- 4:10your bank account within about a week. So you
- 4:14say, awesome. When do I have to start paying
- 4:15it back? And the insurance company says, when
- 4:18do you want to start paying it back? Oh, well,
- 4:21I don't know. I'll figure that out. Well, how
- 4:23much do I have to pay back? And the insurance
- 4:25company says, well, how much do you want to pay
- 4:26back? Oh, we'll have to figure that out. And
- 4:29you say, well, how long do I have to pay it back?
- 4:31How many years? And the insurance company says,
- 4:33well, how long do you want to take to pay it
- 4:35back? So you're in complete control of the repayment.
- 4:38You choose when you repay, how much you repay,
- 4:40and over how long you repay, you're in complete
- 4:43control. So this is what we would call a non
- 4:46-recourse loan, which means the only collateral
- 4:49is the policy itself. The insurance company is
- 4:52using the cash value of the policy as the limit
- 4:56of what you can borrow. And the death benefit
- 4:59in the policy is the collateral. And so because
- 5:04you're in control, it makes it a very handy way
- 5:07to finance real estate deals. Because let's say
- 5:10this deal that we're going to do is a flip. Well,
- 5:13we may not make any payments against that loan
- 5:15until we rehab and sell that property. and get
- 5:18the money from the sale and then pay the loan
- 5:21off all at once. Maybe it's a rental property.
- 5:24We might take the rents from that property and
- 5:27pay the policy loan down over time. So it gives
- 5:30you the flexibility as an investor to repay that
- 5:33any way that works for you within the deal that
- 5:36you're making. So we get the policy loan from
- 5:39the insurance company, they direct deposit it
- 5:40into our bank account. We then take that $100
- 5:43,000 in this example, and we deploy that into
- 5:46whatever the investment is. As I was just describing,
- 5:50that investment is going to create cash flow,
- 5:52whether it's lump sum cash flow when you sell
- 5:55a property you flip or whether it's a stream
- 5:57of payments coming in from rents or notes, payments
- 6:01coming in off of a note, whatever it is, we're
- 6:03going to take that cash flow and we're going
- 6:05to repay that policy loan to the insurance company.
- 6:08Now let's say we do this over, I used seven years
- 6:11before, we'll keep it that way. Let's say we
- 6:13do this over seven years. During that seven years,
- 6:17the cash values in the life insurance policy
- 6:19are going to continue to grow at the same pace
- 6:22as if we did not borrow the 100 ,000. So over
- 6:27that seven years, we're gonna get equity and
- 6:29that policy is gonna continue to grow as if we
- 6:32didn't borrow it. And this is that whole concept
- 6:34where it's going to increase by a larger amount
- 6:36every year for the rest of your life. And there's
- 6:39nothing you can do about it. If you do absolutely
- 6:41nothing, it's going to do that. But we're also,
- 6:44we've made a real estate investment. So now we're
- 6:47also creating. growth or equity or profit in
- 6:51that real estate investment. And so we get the
- 6:54benefit of both. We get the profit from the real
- 6:56estate and the cash value increase or cash value
- 6:59growth within the whole life policy at the same
- 7:02time. And by the way, we pay a little bit of
- 7:05interest to the insurance company for these loans.
- 7:07It'll range anywhere from around 2 % up to 5
- 7:11% depending on how you choose to repay it. So
- 7:15that's in a nutshell how it works. And what I
- 7:19want to do now is get into some specific examples
- 7:23of how you might use this. So first of all, we
- 7:26can fire a real estate banker in six simple steps.
- 7:29We build up cash value in a properly designed
- 7:31whole life insurance policy over time or all
- 7:34at once. There are ways to drop lump sums into
- 7:37these policies and build them up at once. We
- 7:39can use the equity in the policy to finance our
- 7:42real estate deals. The policy grows in the background,
- 7:45even on the capital we've borrowed. We control
- 7:48the repayment schedule 100%. We sell or refi
- 7:52the property and then recycle that money or those
- 7:54profits back into the policy. We accumulate profits
- 7:58from the real estate investments plus the growing
- 8:00equity in the policy. And then, of course, we
- 8:03just rinse and repeat and do this over and over
- 8:05and over and over again. And I'm going to show
- 8:06you a specific example of real life story towards
- 8:09the end here of how that worked. So now we're
- 8:13going to jump into the six specific strategies.
- 8:17I'll start with what I call a starter strategy.
- 8:19So let's say you're just getting started. You've
- 8:21got a little bit of money built up in the policy,
- 8:23but not enough to use for the full investment.
- 8:27So this is where you might start, right? You
- 8:29can use your policy to help pay things like property
- 8:32taxes, homeowners insurance, HOA fees, repairs
- 8:35and maintenance, and get a positive arbitrage
- 8:38on these costs which drag down your property's
- 8:40yield. Strategy number one is the down payment
- 8:44strategy. So we build up the cash value and we've
- 8:47got enough now that we can make a significant
- 8:50down payment by borrowing against the policy.
- 8:52So we can eliminate mortgage insurance and we
- 8:55can mitigate opportunity costs. Well, what in
- 8:58the world do I mean by opportunity costs? So
- 9:01let's take a look at a snapshot of an actual
- 9:04policy illustration. And what I want you to do
- 9:06is watch the column right here. that says annual
- 9:10dividend watch that closely with what happens
- 9:13this set of figures right here is what we're
- 9:15going to focus on right 96 20 through 11 973
- 9:21these are the dividend amounts that are coming
- 9:23into this policy each year now right here we're
- 9:27going to take a loan so we've taken a loan for
- 9:30350 000 in this policy we have these dividends
- 9:34right here so you can see we took the loan and
- 9:36the dividends is the same okay So now we pay
- 9:41back the loan. In this example, we pay back the
- 9:44loan over five years. We pay that loan back.
- 9:47So if this was an investment, we took the profit
- 9:49or the cash flow from that investment and we
- 9:51paid the loan back. But note, after taking the
- 9:54loan and paying the loan back, the policy got
- 9:56the same dividends. And so this is kind of the
- 10:00illustrated example of how the policy continues
- 10:02to grow in the background, even when you've borrowed
- 10:04the money. So in year one, we took 350 ,000 out
- 10:09of this 374 ,000 of cash value out of the policy,
- 10:13but we got the same dividends. There's also a
- 10:16guaranteed growth component here, and we're getting
- 10:18the same dividends and the same guaranteed growth
- 10:21that we would have with or without the 350. So
- 10:26this is a really significant factor in what makes
- 10:30this a powerful, and this is what we mean by
- 10:32mitigating opportunity costs. Had we never put
- 10:35money in this policy, we never would have been
- 10:39able to take this loan and we're giving up. We
- 10:42might have been able to get this money elsewhere,
- 10:44but we'd have been giving up. This is our opportunity
- 10:46costs. We'd have been giving up this extra growth
- 10:48that happens in the policy at the same time.
- 10:51Very powerful concept. So the logical conclusion
- 10:55is strategy number two, and that is we built
- 10:58up enough money now in the policy that we can
- 11:00actually pay cash for the investment. So not
- 11:02just a down payment, we can pay the whole thing.
- 11:05And essentially what we're trying to do is develop
- 11:08a permanent line of credit so that we can be
- 11:10ready for the next opportunity. Who wants that
- 11:14banker's umbrella anyway, right? When we could
- 11:16just do it ourselves. In the full purchase, we'll
- 11:20talk about a property that $350 ,000 alone that
- 11:24we just looked at the example of. We're going
- 11:26to use that as an example of maybe a single -family
- 11:28home that we purchased. If we pay cash, in other
- 11:32words, we don't have a policy, we didn't use
- 11:34the policy, we're just using 350 ,000 of cash
- 11:37that we had in a savings account or wherever.
- 11:41That property appreciates to 405 ,000. that of
- 11:44course we won't pay any interest because we're
- 11:46paying cash but we also won't have any growth
- 11:49in a policy because we're not using a policy
- 11:52and our ROI on that property is about three percent
- 11:55and we make about $55 ,000. If we do that exact
- 11:59same thing but we use the policy we get the same
- 12:02appreciation. Now I don't know if you noticed
- 12:04or not but when I was explaining that policy
- 12:06loan in that that previous slide the annual APR
- 12:10on that loan worked out to about 2 .1 percent.
- 12:13because of the way we repaid it. So it's very
- 12:16low cost financing. The policy's growth over
- 12:19the repayment period is going to grow about $119
- 12:22,000. So our ROI goes from 3 % to 10%, and we
- 12:26net out between the policy and the investment,
- 12:30we net out $175 ,000. So probably pretty obvious
- 12:34which approach would probably make more sense
- 12:37or that we'd be more interested in. is that scenario
- 12:42where we make instead of 55 ,000, we make 175
- 12:45,000. Strategy number three we'll call equity
- 12:49harvesting. And this is where we're gonna use
- 12:52either existing properties or maybe we flip a
- 12:54property and use the profits from that to get
- 12:57the policy started. or we do a cash out refi
- 13:00on existing properties and harvest that equity.
- 13:03So the example we'll use is we have four properties,
- 13:05they're each valued at $100 ,000 and they're
- 13:08appreciating at 3 % per year. Every five years
- 13:11we cash out refi, take 60 ,000 out and we lock
- 13:15those real estate gains in by flowing that cash
- 13:17into a policy. The bonus is over time we build
- 13:21up even more cash value and we can leverage that
- 13:23to purchase the fifth property and keep that
- 13:26whole process going. That probably makes really
- 13:28good sense as far as how that works.