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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 8 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April eight. This is jeck Bars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Duval Motor Group. And now
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  Speaker 1: a guy who just doesn't need another green jacket. J Peace. Look,
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  Speaker 1: come in, It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff logoming alongside today. We've got pointed to get to
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  Speaker 1: coming up on the program, a Trevor update. Yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 1: what's the latest with the what we think will be
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  Speaker 1: the future Jaguars quarterback? And where is he today? All
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  Speaker 1: that coming up? Calm before the storm, it feels like
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  Speaker 1: right now, at least outside the Jags building a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on inside final preparations. With three weeks now until
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  Speaker 1: the NFL Draft lives, and I will pick our free
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  Speaker 1: agency favorites from the first couple of waves of free agency,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League. Plenty of
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  Speaker 1: news with a trade of a quarterback. And then a
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  Speaker 1: lot happening down in Houston these days as well, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot happening this afternoon. Logs. First off, good afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Great to see it's a Thursday all day
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  Speaker 1: and I just found out that it's Masters week. It's
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  Speaker 1: a tradition unlike any other walks forgetting what day the
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  Speaker 1: Masters is that bat or what? I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: there was an announcement earlier today. The Jaguars announced that
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  Speaker 1: they will have a draft party, the Travel Camp r
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  Speaker 1: V Duval Draft one Thursday at PM. So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be in the stadium, socially distanced. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a season ticket member, you can register now and it
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  Speaker 1: opens to fans who are not season ticket members on
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  Speaker 1: April fifteen. For whatever's remaining. It could be sold out,
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  Speaker 1: could be could. I think that's Look, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: we're all starting to get moving towards a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more normalcy and having those type of events. So it's just,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of glad to hear that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, heck, this week I went to I
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  Speaker 1: went to the Clay County Fair. I wouldn't even have
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  Speaker 1: thought about doing that this time last year. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: talking fair food here. What did you what did you
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  Speaker 1: handle in the fair food? First of all, most Mr
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Stalvie cooks at the fair every year. Okay, and
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  Speaker 1: JP as you know, okay, fried chicken ribs um Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What else did I have? Pork chop. Yeah, I had
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  Speaker 1: French fries, coleslaw, sweet tea. I think that's all I had.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't have any fried butter or deep fried. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a fair funnel guy. You know where you
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  Speaker 1: get the funnel cakes and cotton candy and uh uh
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  Speaker 1: candied apples. I mean that's not me. Do you ride
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  Speaker 1: the rides too? I did? I did, and I actually
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  Speaker 1: I actually talked my daughter into doing the ride where
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  Speaker 1: you get you get taken up. She's ten, and you
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  Speaker 1: get taken up and then it feels like the bottom
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  Speaker 1: drops and you fall and then it catcheses okay, which
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's for a ten year old girl, that's
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  Speaker 1: a big deal, right, For a thirty nine year old,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big deal. Well, I talked her and doing it.
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  Speaker 1: She loved it. The one thing that she wouldn't do
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  Speaker 1: that I wouldn't do either, which is this uh space thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's big, long arms and you spin around in circles.
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  Speaker 1: The whole time, I was just envisioning myself seeing and
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  Speaker 1: tasting the fried chicken a second time, and I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: I bet her not to get off this thing. Well
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  Speaker 1: let's but anyway, I was saying it's nice to get
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  Speaker 1: back to a little normalcy. And you know, here comes
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  Speaker 1: the draft and we're having a draft party because the
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  Speaker 1: Jacks have the number one pit JP. Did you hear?
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  Speaker 1: We won't have the tilted world or the Ferris wheel
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  Speaker 1: or any of that stuff for the draft party, but
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  Speaker 1: there will be the first overall pick. And that's pretty cool, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's a heck of a riding. I think. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's really exciting and I'm looking forward to the draft
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  Speaker 1: as a whole because I think this the top of
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  Speaker 1: the draft maybe has more intrigue and than many any
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  Speaker 1: draft in recent years. I mean, think about yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: could be. You know, I think Daniel Jeremiah had five
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  Speaker 1: of the top seven picks going as quarterbacks this year.
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  Speaker 1: Could be, could very well be. And it just goes
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  Speaker 1: to show you the importance of quarterback. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna get to this. You got the Sam
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  Speaker 1: Donald trade that happened this week. I mean, it just
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  Speaker 1: goes to show you the importance of the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: And it sure is nice to have the cat's bird
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  Speaker 1: seat and sit there and say, yep, we're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: exactly who we want and that's Trevor Lawrence. Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the latest on Trevor Lawrence. An update from
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  Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport of NFL Network this morning on Twitter didn't
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  Speaker 1: right there. Well, well, he's also in Augusta today, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, he's been shown on television, but he is
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  Speaker 1: not going to Indianapolis where they're having the medical second
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  Speaker 1: visits for prospects. Uh. Well, he was getting married this
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  Speaker 1: weekend and by the way, he's at Augusta National today.
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  Speaker 1: But Rappaport also said that he obviously had surgery back
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  Speaker 1: in mid February. He has been throwing over the course
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  Speaker 1: of the last two weeks. He's not yet, but workouts
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  Speaker 1: are starting to look and feel normal and he's turned
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  Speaker 1: the corner health wise and all good signs. So that
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  Speaker 1: is good news. You know, here's the thing. Most of
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  Speaker 1: the guys that are going to Indianapolis for a what
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  Speaker 1: this time of year would be considered the second check
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  Speaker 1: because the combine had happened under normal years. Okay, Um,
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  Speaker 1: they're going back this time of year typically to get
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  Speaker 1: a re check because they're not there's a question mark
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  Speaker 1: about their health and there's a question about which team
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  Speaker 1: is going to be able to get him. There's one
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  Speaker 1: person in this draft to where he knows where he's
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  Speaker 1: going for the most part. And obviously, uh irban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: alluded that fact and he said, where we're leading in
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  Speaker 1: that direction, And that's a nice way of saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: the league has told us that we can't reveal our pick,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, we're leading in that direction. And so I
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  Speaker 1: am sure I wouldn't bet everything on this, but the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars lead medical guy, Dr. Kevin Kaplan, who's amazing by
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  Speaker 1: the way, he's fixed both my shoulders house because of
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lock, there's no doubt, right, But I'm sure that
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  Speaker 1: Dr Kaplan has been in constant contact with whoever did
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  Speaker 1: the surgery on Trevor Lawrence and has gotten updates and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. And so, uh, it's not as if Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence needs to go back to Indianapolis to be able
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  Speaker 1: to have all the other league's doctors or have a
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  Speaker 1: couple of doctors to be able to take a look
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  Speaker 1: at him and then disseminate that information to all the
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  Speaker 1: teams in the league. It's not required. There's only one
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  Speaker 1: team that needs to know where he's at right now,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that's the Jaguars and it's obviously reports were
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  Speaker 1: all favorable as you would expect. Kaplan has the Jeff
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  Speaker 1: logging In Room, the Marquise Lee Room also is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of a lot of guest space.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start, I'm gonna actually start working for him
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  Speaker 1: on a percentage basis because of so many referrals I've
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  Speaker 1: been sending to him, I think it's only fair that
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  Speaker 1: he starts throwing me a commission. See, yeah, you could
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  Speaker 1: get into businesses. Why should I should be his agent?
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  Speaker 1: fuel greatness from anywhere. Let's move down to Urban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: making the rounds. Of course, he was at the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State in Florida pro days. He was notably not at
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  Speaker 1: the b y U Pro day that was well publicized,
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  Speaker 1: but you know former coach at both of those places
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  Speaker 1: going back around that made a lot of sense. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Urban Meyer also made a cameo appearance last night on
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  Speaker 1: All Elite Wrestling. There was not a speaking role, but
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  Speaker 1: he was photographed with the champ, Mike Tyson, who apparently
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  Speaker 1: has a beef with Jericho these days. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what side Urban is on, but it's interesting. It's his
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  Speaker 1: first appearance at All Elite Wrestling. Of course it's run
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  Speaker 1: and owned by Tony Kahn, and uh, he's making the rounds.
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  Speaker 1: He did that last night. Uh. The other day, he
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  Speaker 1: goes to the Duval County School Board meeting and honored Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Diana Green for being named Superintendent of the Year by
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Association of District School Superintendents. Gave her a
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  Speaker 1: pair of custom cleats with the school board logo on
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  Speaker 1: the side and her name on the top, a certificate
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  Speaker 1: of recognition, a bunch of photographs, and all that was
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. So Urban is starting to get out in
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  Speaker 1: about a little more in the community. And I think
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  Speaker 1: we're just gonna see more of this as the spring
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  Speaker 1: and summer goes along. Sure, up to a point. And
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  Speaker 1: he's got a job to do, okay, So he's not
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to be the Uh. The Jaguars chairman
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  Speaker 1: of the community. Okay, he's a head coach, and then
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  Speaker 1: he's got a coach football. And hopefully we have in person,
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  Speaker 1: an in person off season for the NFL as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you know, because last year when when we
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  Speaker 1: were here about this time of year, and we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about what things we weren't here, actually we were
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  Speaker 1: home at home, okay, and what we were talking and
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  Speaker 1: we were talking and I made the point and you
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  Speaker 1: obviously agreed with me on this and that for a
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  Speaker 1: football team like the Jaguars that is young and is
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  Speaker 1: going to get even younger in this upcoming draft, the
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  Speaker 1: importance of all season workouts is immense. And we knew
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  Speaker 1: that the team going in tow would be kind of
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  Speaker 1: behind the eight ball, so to speak, because they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any kind of O t as, they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: any mini cams, and so we knew that, look, if
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  Speaker 1: you were ever gonna be more veteran, was the way
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to be more veteran, and the Jaguars weren't that. Well.
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  Speaker 1: In one the Jaguars have moved towards being more veteran
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  Speaker 1: with the free agent signings that they've had, but they
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  Speaker 1: also are going to be incredibly young again, because you
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  Speaker 1: have a very young team to begin with. That you
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  Speaker 1: added some veteran players to that mixing free agency. But
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  Speaker 1: then here you are looking at a draft class that
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  Speaker 1: could be another very big draft class unless they trade
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  Speaker 1: some picks away or future picks, which I'm a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of by the way, you mentioned that last week,
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  Speaker 1: but they currently have ten draft picks this year. They
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  Speaker 1: made that trade away, I would love to see them
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  Speaker 1: end up somewhere right around eight seven or eight you
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  Speaker 1: know where they trade to maybe three away for future picks. Um,
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  Speaker 1: why not? Uh and get your quarterback in place. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big fan of any kind of
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  Speaker 1: a middle round pick. If you can trade that for
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  Speaker 1: a future pick, and I'm talking third and fourth round picks,
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  Speaker 1: If you can trade that away and move up around
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  Speaker 1: maybe a round and a half with those picks, I
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  Speaker 1: think you'd be crazy not to do that. Or if
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you have a guy that you feel
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  Speaker 1: I can be a solid contributor, that's right there for you,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and pick it right. Well, yeah, but JP
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  Speaker 1: I lenders sitting there and staring in the face. And
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  Speaker 1: round three here here here's the issue. How many how
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  Speaker 1: many Brandon Brandon lenders. Have you had one? Okay? So
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  Speaker 1: my point is is that, look, the first round pick
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  Speaker 1: is not a sure thing. It's a coin flip, it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically the first round is about fifty fifty. The
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  Speaker 1: second round the percentages drop. And and I haven't I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to, and I'm sure that because Tony Khan is
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  Speaker 1: really big into the numbers and uh and and he's
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of that. But I mean, because the
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  Speaker 1: reality is is that every round that you go down,
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  Speaker 1: so that the farther you go back in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: the less likelihood that that player or that pick is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a successful player in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: So the way that you combat that roll of the dice,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak, is that you increase the number of picks.
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  Speaker 1: Then your chance of success. If you're a good picker
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  Speaker 1: is likely to go up. If you stink, then you're
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  Speaker 1: you still stink. I mean, you're not. Your percentages aren't
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  Speaker 1: going up. You're just gonna get more bad players. And
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  Speaker 1: we saw some of that in the history of the Jaguar.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to increase your chances for success, and
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  Speaker 1: by doing that, that's increasing the likelihood of picking one
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  Speaker 1: of success, and that's by increasing the picks. If you can't,
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  Speaker 1: logs will get plenty ahead. We'll come back with the
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  Speaker 1: reminds me there was a few years ago you did
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  Speaker 1: fundamental practice, fundamental things. Remember that what was that called that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what it was called. It was
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  Speaker 1: like training camp time you were out there. What is
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  Speaker 1: this dum getting a little older now, So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: use you JP. Yeah, as uh as the the example center,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just be like a coach and hey, JP, getting
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  Speaker 1: that stand Okay, Now, we we did that a couple
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  Speaker 1: drills and training and uh and it was fun and
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  Speaker 1: uh it definitely it definitely taxed my body just doing
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  Speaker 1: some of those things. Uh. Yeah, So I'm looking for
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  Speaker 1: volunteers and JP has already raised his hand for me
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  Speaker 1: Candice also, he's gonna volunteer. Max is also gonna be
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  Speaker 1: out there, and so that my offensive lineman, Reaber is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be Yeah, I got I got a team. I
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  Speaker 1: got a team more. We need we need one more
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  Speaker 1: for the five man sled though. I don't know who's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna. I won't be doing those
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  Speaker 1: kind of videos anymore, JP, where I will be demonstrating
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  Speaker 1: the drills. Yeah, I'm done with that. We've got three
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  Speaker 1: weeks until the NFL Draft, looking forward to it. Three
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  Speaker 1: weeks from tonight in fact round what let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, what's the first draft that you remember. That's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a great question because I think somebody has has an experience,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: um of remembering their first draft. And I mean, obviously
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I had an experience with the draft as a college player.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Wasn't so good most every week, Yes, during the season. Um,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that's a good one because it was always televised, But
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a big, great deal for a long time
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: until right around two thousand, right, it's kind of when
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it became this phenomenon at night with the red carpet
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and the whole thing. I mean, probably the year, the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: year um Aaron Rodgers slide a lot of people remember
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and just seeing him in the green room like like
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he just ate a peach pit, you know, and he
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: did a he did. I thought he did a marvelous
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: job of of handling it, right. But that's a that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a tough slide, you know. That was one that the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: ones before that I was too young for the big
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: quarterback draft in the eighties, you know, Uh, yeah, that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: probably the one that you just put me on the spot.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So no, it's I mean, it's because it's an interesting
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: thing because I think most people, I mean, when you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: think back on which the first draft that you remember,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: most people would be like you and you know, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, most of the stuff has been
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: kind of recent because it is I mean, it's a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's a recent phenomen phenomenon and towereus become must watch
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: primetime television nowadays. It's funny, like the different sports approach
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: to their drafts, right, Baseball is trying to do something
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: similar to this. They can't know, but it's because well,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the problem with baseball is that the prospects that they're
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: drafting aren't known to people and their college kids they're
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: still playing at that time. So there's college guys playing
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in football too. But my point is a college football
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: people know college football players that are really good. People
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: know who Trevor Lawrence is, okay, and they know very
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: well who Trevor Lawrence is. They may not know the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: picture from Stanford who goes first overall that throws a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: hundred and five. And by the way, there's fifty rounds
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of the baseball draft, like you know, half the guys
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: are gonna come anyway. Basketball's kind of a that's become
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a big. That's a good good watch because they've got
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the lottery. I'm watching the superstar at Duke, you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: or North Carolina or Gonzaga nowadays, or Baylor nowadays. I mean,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it's you know what I mean. So you have an
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: idea who these people are, and so there's gotta be
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: some familiarity with it to really kind of follow it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And that's the I think the beauty of the NFL
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Draft is they've done an amazing job. And obviously college
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: footballs is big and so uh. But the draft process
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: as a whole, I know, for being a prospect is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: is a little different than when I went through it,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: because now nowadays the top prospects have an invitation to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: go to the draft itself. I'll say even the process
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: leading out, like the whole pre draft process is totally
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: different when you are around the traveling to teams to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: visit all these different the interviews and workouts we had
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to workout all that stuff. We had the combine when
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I was there. We had individual workouts, but there wasn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like at other bigger schools. There was big workouts when
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I was in college, but at Virginia's Virginian like we
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of talking. We went to the Birmingham,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: but we didn't have our pro day. Okay, I remember
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys were because when I graduated from or not
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: when I graduated, but after the college football season, I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: went to the East West Shrine Game. I went to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to college all star games the Blue Gray and Montgomery
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and Alabama, which was not a great all star game
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to go to, but it was competition nonetheless, Christmas Day
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it was. And then I went to the East West
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Shrine Game and it was interesting. In the East West
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Shrine Game, I was obviously on the East and our
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: coaches were Mike Godfrey was the head coach at pitt
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: from Mobile, and then our assistant coach was the head
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: coach of the University of Miami, which was Jimmy Johnson.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Which right after that, Jimmy takes the job because Jerry
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Jones buys the Cowboys, Jimmy takes the job to run
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Jimmy had coached me in the East West Shrine Game,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: so and had a great time with Jimmy there. He
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was awesome UH coach to to work with, and he
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: liked me and he wanted to pick me in round two.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: He told me that just after the fact, I had
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: had worked out for their pro personnel guy, their linebackers coach,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and then Dave Wonstead who was their defensive court and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I had like three different workouts just for the Cowboys.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And so that's what you did back then. You had
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: multiple workouts. If somebody came in and said, hey, you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I get a call from the football office at UV
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, Jeff so and so is here from
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and wants to know if you can
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: work out afternoon. Yeah, sure, I'll be by or so. Yeah. So,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it was one of those things where you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: worked out. Basically you were on call to work out
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: whenever they would come there. You wouldn't fly. Now, we
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: never flew to any other facility. We had uh didn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: really have phone calls so much as it was in
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: person conversation what they came in, but no traveling to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a team facility. Uh. So it was a little different.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But leading up to the draft, I mean, I just
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: remember the only thing you were thinking of is it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: don't do anything stupid, Okay, don't step in a hole
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and blow a knee. Don't ride a horse and hurt
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: your shoulder, your back, don't climb a tree and then
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, tear something in your arm. I mean, just
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you know, you were trying to be this after the draft. Okay,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that's fine, you know that draft, Yeah, once you got
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the contract. But no, it was it was fun. It
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was fun, fun leading up to the draft, but it
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was I can tell you this JP. It had. It
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: did have some anxiety, is from a player standpoint, because
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you're you're getting to venture into something that you have
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: no control over. Yeah, and it's the rest of your life.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I had Literally, it is somebody is making the decision
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: on where your life's course is going. And so that's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a little unnerving. You know. When I was leaving up
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the draft and I just remember thinking to myself, just
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: don't send me to some big, giant city somewhere. To
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: send me to a LFE, a midwestern city, a smaller city,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: New York, the Big Apple. It didn't go as planned
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it but it turned out good. Nonetheless. Three weeks away now,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: so I'm curious and i'd love to hear what Trent
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Bauki would have to say about this. I think we'll
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: probably hear from him before draft night. But you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: at what point do you put a cover on the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: draft board and quit changing order? And you've already done that,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You've already done Yeah. Yeah. I think the last thing
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in the world that you want to do, especially when
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you're when you're a couple of weeks away from the draft,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: is you don't want to be swayed by the rumor
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: mills that's going to be churning throughout. Well, it's it's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks leading up to the draft.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: There's all kinds of things that end up getting reported.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Just like the fields of quarterback is the last one
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: in and the first one to leave. That information that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: went out from Dan Orlovski, who is a former NFL
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: player who should know better than that. But um, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: mean that was unfortunate. But I mean that's it's not
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: like this is something that is crazy and hasn't happened
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: in the past. I mean this, this has happened for years,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and so that's why I say the cover is already
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: pretty much done. Typically, personnel departments have their mock drafts
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and like about a month prior to or or three
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: weeks prior to UH and most of those mock drafts
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: are have already happened. Some of them might still be happening,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: but for the most part, they've got their board stacked
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and they're not going to change their board in the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. The only thing that would change
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: they're there board the way it stacked from now until
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the draft is that if something unfortunate happens to the player,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like he falls out of a tree and falls off
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the horse, or some type of second medical opinion, something
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: comes out of Indie this week, that is factual. Nothing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: will change the status of the players based on or
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: what somebody else is saying, or if Joe uh NFL
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: reporter is tweeting that so and so teams don't like
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: this guy anymore because of this, or they like this
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: guy he's climbing. That doesn't. That shouldn't, and it shouldn't,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't influence the majority of the draft boards,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the ones that are quality in the National Football League.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So the work has done, the hand is in the barn,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: so to speak, and now is uh is the time
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: though to where some preliminary phone calls are being made
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to jockey for a draft position. And I'm not talking
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: about active trades. I mean, there could be an active trade.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Look what happened with San Francisco going up the third
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: overall could happen. But I think what a lot of
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: teams are doing right now because they have a feel
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: for wanting to be in certain places where they think
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: they need to be to get certain players. So if
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: their draft position currently, they're not comfortable where they're at,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: they feel like they need to make a move, whether
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that be up or whether that be down. They're starting
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to do right now, the preliminary work contacting other teams
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that Hey, what would you think if let's say I'm
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Trent Balking and I'm calling up Pittsburgh Steelers, Hey, what
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: would you think about? You know, I've got this pick
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in round two and I was thinking about moving up,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and you're up and are moving down because obviously in
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: front of we're thinking about dropping back a little bit,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you know, and uh and and maybe picking up a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: third or fourth round pick. Are you know, are you interested?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And something? Some of those are the kind of things
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that I think are happening right now. So when you're
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: on the clock, you know who to call and and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: who may be a willing partner to work a trade out. Hey,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we talked about this couple weeks ago. You guys, still
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: he's still interested, and you know, you know, we we
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: had that conversation, you know, and I felt I told
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you that, Look, I was happy about getting, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: maybe a fifth round pick. If you know, I think
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I'll back off. I'll take a six if you're if
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you're willing to do the deal. I mean those kind
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of things. I mean, so because you want to, you
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: want to end up having relationships and Trump Balky has
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: been around the NFL long enough to know that some
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: of those relationships are still there, even though he hasn't
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: been on a general man during a number of years.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that he's refreshed a lot of those
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: relationships over the last four or five months or whatever
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it's been. He does have a history, by the way
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of moving around in drafts and making moves on draft
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Day and trades and all that. So he has on
• 30:00
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  Speaker 1: Three weeks away from the draft, where a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks removed from the start of well about three weeks
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  Speaker 1: after the start of free agency, and that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to review our free agency favorites from what was a
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  Speaker 1: very large free agency class that came in here this year,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new faces coming around. So Logs, let's
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  Speaker 1: review who is your free agency favorites a few weeks.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Want you to start, Yeah, I want you to start. Okay,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Well I'll start that. You start, Well, you know probably
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with the number one overall pick right?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You think, yeah, you need a certain direction. They're leaning
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  Speaker 1: that way. That's the direction they're leaning. So you need
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: some weapons on offense, some more of that consistent weapons.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You need a salty vet, if you will, somebody to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: kind of lead the troops and get to get some
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: certain position groups ready to go. So I love Marvin Jones,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: veteran been in this league now it will be his
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: tenth year coming up. He's played at a high level
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: very recently and including the last two years under Daryl
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Bevil's offense in Detroit. Um, he's great off the field. UM,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: a good family guy and all that. And you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: he's got a group of young receivers around him now
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that I think will follow his leading a lot of ways.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: And then that's the veteran presence they needed, I think
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to go with Chark and Levis chen Ault and uh
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Colin Johnson and those guys all good guys anyway, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you put a guy like Marvin Jones in that environment
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with them, Okay, let's go. Well, you want you want
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: everybody in the environment to be good. I mean, and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, all those things you said, you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: good family guy, and look that for me, that stuff
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if the guy can play football and play
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it well and he's consistent and he's good in the
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: locker room. That's Those are the qualities that are always
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the first and foremost as far as trying to get
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a guy, and Marvin Jones has been extremely productive. He's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: been available, he's been consistent, and that's exactly what you need.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And he knows the system. So here you go. Now
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you're bringing in a guy who's carrying the message of
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff, which I talked about the importance of
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: bringing in leadership to help the new staff out. Well,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: he's been in the offense, he knows the offense, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he's a veteran guy that has leadership qualities. All positive,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: But for me, I went to the other side of
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the ball because the other side of the ball is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: also gonna need a ton of work. They need that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: They needed a lot of work, a ton of work,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and we know that they have a huge need upfront.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna help make the guys up front better,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: if you can add a little bit to the secondary
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and maybe cover a guy a little bit longer, then
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you have the ability to maybe get the quarterback down
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and shot. Griffin for me is my guy as far
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: as my favorite and and number one. He comes from
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a program that knows what winning is about. He is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a winner himself. He's a damn good football player. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: in free agency typically you're not finding a lot of value,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: which what I mean by value, and that's the term
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: that Trent Baky likes to use for guys that Okay,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: if we're paying him a million, we're actually getting two
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: million in production. Well, on free agency you pay more
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: probably than what you're actually receiving, but that's okay, that's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: what you pay in free agency. Sometimes when you pay
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of money in free agency, it tells you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the quality of the player. He is a Chack Griffin
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: is a good football player, and he's gonna help this
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: defense out. And I'm gonna tell you another reason why
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: it's important. There's a big question mark with last year's
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: first round pick quarterback. Can he be a guy? Can
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: he be the guy? And right now, if you have
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a veteran guy who's proven to be a really good
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: football player to help your secondary out, that's all positive.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And I would probably put JP if if I had
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: to go. And this isn't in the same category because
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a true free agent acquisition. But Malcolm Brown,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the New Orleans sent formerly of the New Orleans Saints.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: This was a trade that the Jaguars executed, and then
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he gave up very little to get him because the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: New Orlean Saints, we're gonna have to part ways with
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: him anyway because of salary cap reasons. This defense needed
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: so much this offseason and they really needed big bodies
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: up in the middle, and Malcolm Brown is gonna be that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: It's gonna make this team better. And I'm gonna tell
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you there's two linebackers that are gonna absolutely love Malcolm Brown. Okay,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: two linebackers that depend on that big body right there,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: number ninety Okay that we're looking at. They're gonna depend
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: on him to make sure that the blockers stay off
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: of them. And so I think that's also another big,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: a huge because what I mean big, I mean big
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: for the team and also big big boy, really really big,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: and a guy again who's been on winning teams about
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: coming here. He's fired up here Saints. They know what
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they're they're doing down there too, and then here we go.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: He's coming to a team that is on the mend,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: on the rebuild, if you will, and he's excited for
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: what this team can be. So those are some of
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the our favorites acquisition. I'm with you on Malcolm Brown.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player. A little
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: disappointing that the Tyson A La Wallah thing fell through,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But but I said this before and and I think
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: most people that have have had a chance to get
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to know Tyson Alla Walla when he spent time here
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: totally understand it. Look, I mean family issues and uh,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you know, because you always want what's best for certain players.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: In some cases, you always want what's best for your team.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: But uh, I'm happy for Tyson if staying in Pittsburgh
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: makes him happy. He's such a high quality guy. More
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: power to him. More power to him. And but here's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the thing. The Jaguars need to find somebody that's that's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: young and ascending and that can rush the passer from
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the inside. That's gonna be I think one of the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: priorities in this draft that they find pass rush help
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: inside and uh, and there's some good prospects in this
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: draft class, so they should be able to fill that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: need in the draft at some point. It's a lot
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of needs. Still, Look, this team has a look for me.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you end up one in fifteen and
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the first overall pick of the draft is in your hands.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: That's telling you you've got a lot of you got
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of needs. By the way, Griffin's contracts and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: three years, forty five million with nine million guaranteed a
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: lot of money. But that's that's the way it is.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And free agency, you know, I mean, look, that's that's
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: what happens. If you draft better, Okay, then you end
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: up having that issued where you start losing guys in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: free agency because of that reason, they're getting offered a
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: lot of money and you can't afford to keep all
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: these high quality players that you're drafting. This team hasn't
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: had that problem lately. Okay, that's what this team. That's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: the problem that this team needs in the future is
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to retain good football players,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: that are good football players, that are good team players
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and that you want to keep around. And they haven't
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: had that issue much around here lately. Jack's did sign
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: this past week a linebacker, Damien Wilson from the Chiefs,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: kind of a depth player, been in the last two
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams four years of the Cowboys before that.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I had ten tackles in this past super Bowl, and um,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of role he plays here a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: guy who has again been in any winning organization. We'll
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: see what kind of contributions Joe Collin has in mind
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: from got to be a good football player. First, now,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, before you start talking about all those other things.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You know, the first check, the first box that you
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: need to check. Can you play can you play ball? Okay?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Then you start worrying about the other things. So okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: what role is he gonna fill? Is he a good guy?
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: The first box has got to be checked before you
• 42:07
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  Speaker 1: how the off season gonna is gonna progress. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: they know that everybody's gonna have Phase one start at
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the same time and about a week or so from now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe next Monday. I had mentioned early in the off
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  Speaker 1: to do what is normal, which would have been the
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  Speaker 1: and that they should have just immediately started to trying
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  Speaker 1: to prepare and move in the direction of having a
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  Speaker 1: And if you we're targeting for that, I think it
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  Speaker 1: would have been easier to prepare for one thing instead
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  Speaker 1: of kind of sitting back going, Okay, how are we
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  Speaker 1: going to try to implement Phase two? Are we gonna
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: be able to do it. Obvious, A lot of that
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: has to do with the negotiation process with the players union,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: but it would have been I think they and I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: hope they're doing it. So maybe they are. I don't
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: know that they would be pushing towards having kind of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: one thing, and that's after the draft sometime in June,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: have a gathering of their teams and making a week
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  Speaker 1: or two weeks or whatever it is, and then just
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  Speaker 1: get people together and then then then start preparing for
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  Speaker 1: Right kind of deal. Let's go around the National Football League,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and there was a trade in the league this week
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: involving a notable quarterback, Sam Donald traded to the Panthers
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for draft picks. The question now is what happens to
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, who's with the Panthers, and apparently we're allowing
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: him to seek a trade on his own. Multiple teams
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: are interested, but he has a seventeen million dollar base
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: salary next year. Yeah, he's not gonna get seventeen million dollars.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I would be very surprised
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: if somebody trades for him, and in seventeen million dollars
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: for the most part. Excuse me. Everybody has their quarterback,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: whether it be you know, the anticipation of the draft
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But you know, everybody's pretty much scored away,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and uh, there's a lot of teams that really lie
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, but it doesn't mean that they like Teddy
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater as their starting quarterback. You can like somebody, but
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to believe that he's going
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: to be a starting quarterback. I thought though that the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, which were in a tough position because they
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: don't have a franchise quarterback, they weren't gonna get one
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: in the draft because their draft position was not high
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: enough that I thought that this was an incredibly wise move.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald still has the potential of being
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, but I think that with Adam Gaze
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: and a and a dysfunctional organization as the Jets have
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: been recently, there was no chance any quarterback would have
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: went in there and had great success. And so I
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: think what they gave up for him is uh is
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: is very small amount really when it comes to a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: guy who could be obviously could be as a stretch
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: because he's there's some evidence that's showing that he's not yet.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: But if he ends up being a franchise guy to care,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a line of Panthers have done a masterful job, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: now they've got a guy that they think has some upside.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And if he's developed and they have a very good
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: coach in Carolina, then uh, look, he's got a chance.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And and it's gonna be good for Sam Donald to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: get out of that New York environment and the scrutiny
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: that that essentially comes with it. He's still young, and
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be twenty four on opening Day, very young.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And now he and obviously last year he wasn't very
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: healthy and it wasn't a very good football team for
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of different reason reasons and there and the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: coaching situation that they had in New York. I still
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: am baffled as to how the Jets and when you
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: talk about dysfunction, you have a you have a coach,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: you didn't have success with the Miami Dolphins. And I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: don't have any personal grudge against Adam Gates, but I mean,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: how do you give a guy that kind of cred
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and another opportunity when he just had a job and
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: he reports out of out of Miami, we're not good.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And then but you're gonna hire him to be your
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: head coach because he's an offensive guru. Wait a minute,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: It kind of brings glad you kind of went this direction,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: because I saw a tweet today from at my sports
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Update right, just one of those accounts, and it said
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the Jets and the Dolphins have done essentially the same
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: thing recently. They both fired Adam Gaze, they hired a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: defensive minded coach love by the players. They both traded
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a quarterback for draft capital. They've traded a safety for
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. They're gonna draft a top quarter
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: top five quarterback, and they both have double number ones
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and two draft picks the next year after all that happened.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: So it's the same blueprint that the Dolphins and Jets
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: have done. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, And uh, and hopefully
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the direction because I like Robert sala I like him,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a good guy, and I hope the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Jets are now headed in the right direction as a franchise,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and is Miami headed in the right direction. I liked
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: their coach, the general manager, but exactly the quarter bands
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: if TA is the guy, because if he's not, you've
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: just wasted four years of the franchise and maybe more,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Just like the Jaguars when they drafted Blake Bortles and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: turns out he wasn't the guy. You end up wasting.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: What year was he drafted? The fourteen? Okay, so he's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: drafted in fourteen. You wasted six years, yeah, I mean
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: because you didn't draft, well, you didn't draft another quarterback
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: when you got him. I mean, so you you passed
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: up the opportunity to keep taking shots at a franchise guy.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: You know. So, um, that's what can happen if you
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: don't get the guy. And even though the Miami Dolphins
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: looked like their geniuses for getting all the pics that
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: they did, it won't matter unless TWA turns out to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: be the guy. A lot of people ready to get
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: him out of there already. You know, a lot of
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: people have given up on too after. I get it,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: because you know, but the reaction league all of a sudden, well, look,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that r G three was
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback since sliced bread when he came out
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: with Washington, and it didn't it didn't have any lasting impact,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and so obviously two was on the opposite side of that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: You know, he's still Look, he came, it's his rookie year.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: He just finished it. He was coming off of the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: hip issue, which would have would have which would have
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: prohibited me from taking him that high. But uh, I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: think he still has a chance of being a really
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: good quarterback. The guy's got some armtown arm talent, and
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see more of his athleticism this year,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: another year removed from having his hip fixed. And I hope, look,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I hope he has great success. I like I like
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: his approach, and I like he's he's humble, and I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: think he's got great humility and I like those qualities
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and quarterbacks because you don't always see that. But I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: like him. I like him. I like the way he
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: kind of rolls. Let's stay on the quarterback conversation, but
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: head down to Houston, Texas, where things are busy for
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson. These days, sponsors are starting to pull
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: away from de Shaun Watson. Nike and Beats by Dre
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: are both pulling away for the moment. Some of the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: people who have sued Watson spoke Earlier this week, there's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a league investigation underway under the Personal Conduct policy that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: governs off field behavior involving players and coaches, and his attorney,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Rusty Harden, filed a motion to strike a complaint filed
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: by one of the twenty two accusers asking for the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: case to be refiled in her real name. So there's
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of this moving forward, a lot
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: of motions and filings and all this stuff. But it is,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you know here, it is, It's still there, and it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: when the sponsors start going away that's really I mean,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: not that it's been a great turn already, but when
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the sponsors start turning away, that's when things can really
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: go downhill quickly for the Sean. I'm a believer in
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: innocence until proven guilty, and now that this has become
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: a criminal matter, because you have now have a criminal complaint,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the public opinion obviously will be swayed in a big
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: direction because of the civil cases that we were filed.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: My biggest question is is that when all of a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: sudden you had all these people coming out saying one,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: you eventually got the twenty one. It might even be
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: higher than that that had civil complaints against the Shawn Watson,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and I remember exactly what the number was. App But
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: then when his attorney comes out and says that, look,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: we have we have statements from eighteen massus. Is that
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: counter what these civil complaints that have been filed are saying.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: My first thought was, and I think it was like
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: twenty at the time or eighteen at the time, I'm going,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: who the hell has forty massage therapists? Really? I don't know,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Apparently, look forty, I mean that right,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: there is smoke billowing out or or or red flags,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And so in the
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion, just a simple fact
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that his attorney found eighteen massage therapists that we're willing
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to say he was great with us. Da da da
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: da da. And then there's twenty one. On the other
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: side of the fence. People are doing the math, going,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: forty some odd massage therapists? Really, I mean most athletes
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: might have on one hand, you'd count them four or five,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, and most of them have one or two,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And it depends on the scheduling or the team, and
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: then you know, you may have one or two maybe
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: three but forty. Now, how many massage therapists did you
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: have with the Jets And let's say didn't have one.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a deal. I didn't have one. Yeah,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I mean we didn't have one. Sports performance has changed, Yeah,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: we we didn't. We didn't have like like nowadays the
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: teams bring in that. You know that they have the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: everybody's on staff. You have dietitians, you have you know,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: performance coaches, you had this, you have that. We didn't
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: have any of that. We didn't. We didn't even have
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: when I came to the league JP. We came when
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: when we would go into the Jets facility in the morning,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: this is this is serious dead series. We go into
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the Jets facilit it in the morning. You had to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: have your own breakfast before you got there. Okay, there
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: was no food provided and for breakfast, okay, there was
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: no lunch provided. And you were there from seven am
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: until five pm. We had no cafetia. What we did,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: we would send the equipment guys, whether it been Derek
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: or Charlie or Clay or Billy Jr. Or hamp Senior
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: or Mickey Rendine. We'd send these guys out to the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to the to the deli's thet food. I mean, so
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: just to go to show you, I mean how far
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: things have come. I mean now, I mean they're four
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: tracking everything that goes into the player's body. But back
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: then and then on on Saturdays, man, we had donuts
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: and milk and you know, I not to mention the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: late night I can tell you that's a different sort
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: of caloric can take. I don't know how many Point
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Lookout Deli breakfast sandwiches I had in my six years
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: up there, but it was a lot of them, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: it was really good. But I ate a lot of bread,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: carve up, carve up, carved up, way too much, Jap.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: That's why my face was just like that. That's why, Okay,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: looks good to see. Uh, we'll talk to you again
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: next week. Joe Fortunato, Brett Reaver. I'm J. P. Shadrick
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: and this is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.