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Dragnet: The Big Seventeen (EP4844) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: now from Chamber sixth, nineteen fifty one, here is the
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  Speaker 1: Big seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The
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  Speaker 2: names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a
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  Speaker 2: detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile bureau. A series of
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  Speaker 2: crime suddenly starts among teenage children in your city. Robberies, burglaries,
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  Speaker 2: bodily assault that doesn't seem to be any reason for it.
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  Speaker 2: The crime wave grows. Your job stop it.
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  Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the
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  Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
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  Speaker 3: you will travel step by step on the side of
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  Speaker 3: the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files,
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  Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
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  Speaker 3: the story of your police force in action.
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  Speaker 4: Was Thursday, April tenth, was warm in Los Angeles. We
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  Speaker 4: were working the night watch out of Juvenile Bureau. My
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  Speaker 4: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Stein. My name
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  Speaker 4: is Friday. It was ten twenty seven pm when I
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  Speaker 4: got to thirteen thirty five Georgia Street, second floor, the squadroom.
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  Speaker 4: Joe got you, Yeah, you're ready, half a minute, all right,
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  Speaker 4: get my coat on here, if you leave a note
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  Speaker 4: for McNamara, Yeah, I set all right, let's hurry. Huh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: same neighborhood we had the trouble Monday night. Uh huh,
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  Speaker 4: sounds like the same gang too. These kids are sure moving.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, what is it this time movie theater
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  Speaker 4: on West Fremont, small neighborhood house. Oh, they had a
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  Speaker 4: crowd of fifteen to twenty kids in there tonight, mixed
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  Speaker 4: group boys and girls. For no reason at all. They
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  Speaker 4: started to tear the place up. They do much dammage. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. We can see when we get there,
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  Speaker 4: told me on the phone. In the theater manager tried
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  Speaker 4: to quiet the kids down. Half of us boys piled
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  Speaker 4: all over them. One of them pulled a knife. They
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  Speaker 4: tore up a couple of seats up on the balcony,
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  Speaker 4: moved out into the lobby, smashed mirrors and lamps. They
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  Speaker 4: beat up one of the ashes. I was the little punks.
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  Speaker 4: Where'd you park the car straight back? I'd give a
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  Speaker 4: right arm to know how this thing got started. We've
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  Speaker 4: never had much trouble from the kids in that neighborhood
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  Speaker 4: out there, not till this last month seemed to be going.
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  Speaker 4: It's not getting any better. Burglary's car, theft's wrecking property.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody's going to come out on the short end. If
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  Speaker 4: it keeps up, it's got to happen. Maybe it already has.
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  Speaker 4: When they were ripping up that theater lobby tonight when
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  Speaker 4: kid got hurt. What happened to a fourteen year old
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  Speaker 4: boy and the mix up? He got shoved through a
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  Speaker 4: display case plate glass, cut up pretty bad his eyes.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure he'll see again. In police work, the
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  Speaker 4: standard law of cause and effect works like it does
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  Speaker 4: for everything else. When a crime is committed, there's a
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  Speaker 4: cause behind it, there's a reason for it. And when
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  Speaker 4: a group of normally well behaved kids in an average
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  Speaker 4: residential neighborhood start running wild, there's got to be a
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  Speaker 4: reason for that too. A month before, a rash of
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  Speaker 4: auto thefts, petty stealing, and public disturbances had broken out
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  Speaker 4: suddenly in the particular neighborhood. All of the incidents were
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  Speaker 4: traced directly to the teenagers in the area. Why the
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  Speaker 4: kids had suddenly decided to run wild, we didn't know,
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  Speaker 4: But the amount and the nature of the violations kept
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  Speaker 4: getting more serious. Juveniles who had previously been picked up
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  Speaker 4: for petty thefts and placed on probation were now committing
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  Speaker 4: burglar Auto steps in the area had jumped twenty percent.
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  Speaker 4: Misconduct and drunk charges against the teenagers, girls and boys
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  Speaker 4: alike increased by the week. We had a fair idea
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  Speaker 4: what the root of all the trouble was, but so
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  Speaker 4: far we hadn't been able to trace it. Ten forty
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  Speaker 4: five pm we got to the neighborhood movie Theater on
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  Speaker 4: West Fremont. We went inside. The lobby was a shambles.
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  Speaker 4: Two large mirrors had been shattered, lamps and sofas overturned
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  Speaker 4: and broken. The lobby candy counter had been wrecked completely.
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  Speaker 4: The glass showcases were caved in, the popcorn machine was smashed,
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  Speaker 4: the soft drink cooler turned on its side. The last
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  Speaker 4: showing of the feature picture was still going on. We
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  Speaker 4: interviewed the theater manager in the lobby, a mister Clyde Barton.
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  Speaker 5: They got real foul mouth, one or two of the
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  Speaker 5: girls too, some of the language I wouldn't even use
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  Speaker 5: at a stag party. I got some mad. I grabbed
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  Speaker 5: two of the noisy ones by the neck and told
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  Speaker 5: them to get out.
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  Speaker 6: That's when it broke loose.
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  Speaker 4: Well what exactly happened.
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  Speaker 5: The whole crowd of them jumped out of their seats
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  Speaker 5: and piled on me. I fell back down against the
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  Speaker 5: stairs and I started swinging. Tell you a two sides,
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  Speaker 5: and I was scared. I didn't know what to make
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  Speaker 5: of them. Me seemed like a packup of animals wild.
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  Speaker 5: I happened to hit this one kid, and I saw
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  Speaker 5: him pull out a knife and come at me. Didn't
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  Speaker 5: take me too long to get out of there. Kids
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  Speaker 5: are not when a bunch of them like that come
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  Speaker 5: after you, you run.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, you've called for the police as soon as
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  Speaker 4: all this happened.
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  Speaker 7: You bet I did.
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  Speaker 5: Just as soon as I could get out into the
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  Speaker 5: lobby and into my office, I locked the door. I
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  Speaker 5: could hear him turn the place up outside. Just look
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  Speaker 5: at that smashed up everything inside. I have to have
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  Speaker 5: something like this happen. Look at this candy stand.
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  Speaker 4: Well, how about some of the kids you recognize in
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  Speaker 4: that crowd?
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  Speaker 5: Ms boarn Oh, say, the last show is ready to break.
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  Speaker 5: Folks are going to be coming out. You want to
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  Speaker 5: step back here into my office. We can talk there
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  Speaker 5: and be out of the way.
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  Speaker 6: And here we are.
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  Speaker 4: Pull up a chair for yourself if I say thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I just got the feeling there's something radically wrong going
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  Speaker 5: on with those kids.
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  Speaker 4: This is the first time you've ever had any trouble
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  Speaker 4: of any real size, Is that right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Or once in a while the kids fall around in
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  Speaker 5: the show talking loud, you know, but nothing like this.
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  Speaker 5: Oh let's see Fred, my usher and the way they
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  Speaker 5: missed him up brutal, And that little fourteen year old
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  Speaker 5: they shoved through the glass showcase. It'll be a real
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  Speaker 5: mess if he doesn't pull through.
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  Speaker 4: And I was gonna ask you, sir, about the kids
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  Speaker 4: in that crowd you recognize you haven't known any of
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  Speaker 4: the name.
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  Speaker 6: Sure thing.
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  Speaker 5: I made a list of them while you were run
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  Speaker 5: the way over here. I got a half dozen of
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  Speaker 5: little more. That's another thing I can understand.
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  Speaker 6: You know what's sense when.
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  Speaker 5: These kids start running wild, no matter what they do,
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  Speaker 5: they don't seem to care if they're recognized or that.
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  Speaker 5: You think if they wanted to raise the devil, they
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  Speaker 5: go over to some other neighborhood, someplace where people didn't
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  Speaker 5: know them.
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  Speaker 6: They just don't seem to care.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, we've had the same report from a couple
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  Speaker 4: of other business people in the neighborhood here. Mister Barton,
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  Speaker 4: you probably have a pretty fair opportunity to watch the
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  Speaker 4: kids around here from time to time. I mean running
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  Speaker 4: theater here, and I sure do.
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  Speaker 5: Most of them are in here once a week anyway,
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  Speaker 5: So all the kids I've known since they were knee pants.
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  Speaker 4: Well, of you, any idea at all what's behind all
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  Speaker 4: this trouble, I mean, any real indication.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just the suspicious kind, but I've got an idea.
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  Speaker 5: All right here, I'll get that list of names for
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  Speaker 5: you at the same time. Yeah, they are seven names
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  Speaker 5: in all. Every one of those kids was in that
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  Speaker 5: gang tonight. I can give you a hand tracking down
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  Speaker 5: the address and I'll thank you. Huh, there's something else.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what I was talking about.
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  Speaker 4: What's this, sir?
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  Speaker 5: And that scramble in the lobby tonight? This little box
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  Speaker 5: fell out of one of the kid's pockets. One of
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  Speaker 5: the ushes picked it up, brought it into me. I
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  Speaker 5: have a look inside.
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  Speaker 4: Ben.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know too much about it, Sogean, but I
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  Speaker 5: got a hunch. I don't think I made a mistake. Man,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think? No, sir, no mistake.
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  Speaker 4: It's marijuana. We finished interviewing the theater manager, Clyde Barton,
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  Speaker 4: and then we talked to the usher, a Donald Masters,
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  Speaker 4: who recovered the small box containing the marijuana from the
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  Speaker 4: floor of the lobby. He told us he recognized the
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  Speaker 4: young fellow who dropped the box, but he wasn't sure.
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  Speaker 4: He said the boy's name was Harold Everson, one of
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  Speaker 4: the names which appeared on the list which the theater manager,
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  Speaker 4: mister Barton, had given us. Half an hour later, Ben
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  Speaker 4: and I located the Everson boys' home was a two
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  Speaker 4: story frame colonial style house in the better than average
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  Speaker 4: section of the area. The boy's father answered the door,
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  Speaker 4: Harold Everson Senior. We told him what we wanted.
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  Speaker 8: A little late to be making routine calls. Don't you
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  Speaker 8: think people have to get this sleep? Why can't you
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  Speaker 8: let it wait until morning?
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  Speaker 4: It's not a routine called, mister Everson, like to see
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  Speaker 4: your son. If he's on Harry, What do you have
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  Speaker 4: to see him about? Would you have any idea where
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  Speaker 4: your boy spend his time tonight, sir?
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  Speaker 8: He said he was going down to the gym, played
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  Speaker 8: a little basketball, and he was going to the library.
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  Speaker 7: It's a school night. He had studying to do.
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  Speaker 4: I think maybe you ought to keep a little closer
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  Speaker 4: check on your son, sir. That's not the way we get.
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  Speaker 8: It, you're getting at I trust my boy. He said,
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  Speaker 8: he's going to the gym and under the library. He's
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  Speaker 8: got no reason to lie about it.
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  Speaker 4: They had a minor riot at the neighborhood movie down
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  Speaker 4: on West Fremont tonight. Gang of high school kids ran
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  Speaker 4: wild and wrecked the place.
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  Speaker 7: What's that got to do with Harry?
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  Speaker 4: A couple of people recognized him among the gang of kids.
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  Speaker 4: They said he did his share of wrecking along the
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  Speaker 4: rest of 'em.
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  Speaker 8: Couldn't be it's a lie. Harry didn't go to the
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  Speaker 8: show tonight, he told me when he got home. He
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  Speaker 8: even had his books with him. He spent the night
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  Speaker 8: at the library. Oh, I'd like to have.
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  Speaker 4: You take a look at this, mister Everson. Huh this
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  Speaker 4: box here? Would you recognize this at all?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, same kind of box. My stomach pills come in.
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  Speaker 8: Got a little ass condition of my stomach. I take
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  Speaker 8: these pills for it. What's all this have to do
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  Speaker 8: with Harry?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to open the box for you, mister Everson.
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  Speaker 7: I don't get it. What is this stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Someone saw your son drop the box in the lobby
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  Speaker 4: of the theater tonight. The box contains marijuana.
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  Speaker 8: It's stupid. It couldn't be right. I haven't got that
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  Speaker 8: kind of a boy, I know it is, right.
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  Speaker 4: Do you mind if we talk to your son. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he can explain it for.
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  Speaker 7: Us just a minute. I'll get him down here, all right,
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  Speaker 7: have a cheroche.
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  Speaker 4: One, thank you. Sure a nice place, an Joe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: beautiful furniture. There's nothing like period furniture. Never goes out
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  Speaker 4: a day. Be just as much in styled ten years
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  Speaker 4: from now as it is today. We better be sure
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  Speaker 4: and take by Georgia Street Hospital on the way back,
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  Speaker 4: and sure that kid's doing. You know, the one that
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  Speaker 4: was hurt at the show. Oh yeah, this.
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  Speaker 7: Is my boy, Harry.
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  Speaker 6: Officer.
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  Speaker 8: Harry just told me offices. He doesn't know what this
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  Speaker 8: is all about. He was at the library, like I said.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, I was there to lay closed. Somebody made a mistake.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't at the show tonight.
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  Speaker 4: But Harry, do you know mister Barton, the man who
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  Speaker 4: runs the theater. Yeah, I know at least swear as
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  Speaker 4: you were there tonight. So does one of the iceers.
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  Speaker 4: Oh boy, but the name of Donald Masters, he says,
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  Speaker 4: he knows you pretty well.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know any Donald Masters.
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  Speaker 4: You go to the same high school together, son, You're
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  Speaker 4: in the same class.
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  Speaker 6: I told you, I don't know any Donald Masters.
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  Speaker 4: What about this, Harry, This box here. Do you recognize this?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: What's the matters? Huh?
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  Speaker 7: What is it? Harry? What's wrong with you?
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  Speaker 6: Nothing? I don't know whose it is. It's not mine.
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  Speaker 4: Was lost in the lobby of the theater tonight. Master
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  Speaker 4: says he saw you drop him.
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  Speaker 6: He's lying. I hate the kid's guts anyway, he's lying.
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  Speaker 4: But you said you didn't know him, Son, what's wrong
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  Speaker 4: with you?
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  Speaker 7: What he's shaking for? Kind of a story you're trying
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  Speaker 7: to tell?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't mean it? Then, kid got this stuff for me.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't mean to get I didn't mean to dead.
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  Speaker 8: That's forgetting to look like I'm the dummy of the family.
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  Speaker 8: Take it easy, mister Everson, Harry, you're a liar.
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  Speaker 7: Kid got the stuff for me, That is the truth.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't buy it.
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  Speaker 8: You want him downtown officer, So mister Effson'd like to
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  Speaker 8: have you come down with him.
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  Speaker 7: We get your clothes on, go back your room, get
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  Speaker 7: your clothes on.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, dead.
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  Speaker 8: Trying to believe son using marijuana. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 8: how I feel.
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  Speaker 4: I'm afraid there's going to be more folks feeling the
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  Speaker 4: same way before this is cleaned up.
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  Speaker 8: Would be different if Harry didn't have a chance, but
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  Speaker 8: good home, good training boys had the best I could
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  Speaker 8: give it. Yes, wife and I, we never thought we
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  Speaker 8: had a worry in the world as far as Harry
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  Speaker 8: was concerned.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, maybe that's why it happened. Before we left
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  Speaker 4: the Everson house, we checked the boy's room and came
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  Speaker 4: up with another small box full of marijuana, which he'd
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  Speaker 4: hidden back in his closet. Besides Everson and his son Harry,
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  Speaker 4: more than a half a dozen other teenagers who'd had
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  Speaker 4: a part in the theater brawl were rounded up and
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  Speaker 4: taken downtown along with their fathers for interrogation. By the
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  Speaker 4: time we finished our questioning and the teenagers had finished talking,
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  Speaker 4: we had most of the story piece together, a story
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  Speaker 4: that had the parents so amazed that half of them
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  Speaker 4: thought the youngsters were making it up. The pattern was
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  Speaker 4: familiar enough for us to know that they were telling
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  Speaker 4: the truth. Almost two months before, word had gone around
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  Speaker 4: among the teenagers in the neighborhood that marijuana, along with
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  Speaker 4: various stimulating drugs, was to be had easily and in
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  Speaker 4: quantity for anybody who wanted them. Word was passed around
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  Speaker 4: that it was the new thing to do. The smart
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  Speaker 4: thing to do if you wanted to keep up with
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  Speaker 4: the crowd. In questioning the Everson boy, we found that
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  Speaker 4: he seemed to know more about the history and operations
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  Speaker 4: of the narcotics campaign in the neighborhood than the other boys.
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  Speaker 6: Did I know one of the guys who first showed
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  Speaker 6: up with this stuff names Johnny Demring. He's about my age, seventeen.
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  Speaker 6: I used to know him pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: How do you mean he was the first to show
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  Speaker 4: up with this stuff? Harry? What kind of stuff?
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  Speaker 6: Marijuana? Some of the other things? You know, yellow jackets, goofballs.
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  Speaker 6: More of the kids go for them than they do
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  Speaker 6: for marijuana.
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  Speaker 4: Do the youngsters know what these goofballs are made of? Sun?
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  Speaker 4: They know what they are.
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  Speaker 6: It's dope. I guess narcotics. The kids get a big
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  Speaker 6: kick at him. I guess that's all lakes here.
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  Speaker 4: It's Johnny Demmering. Does he sell the stuff around the neighborhood, Harry.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the first one. He's got a couple
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  Speaker 6: of other kids selling for him, now, a couple of girls.
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  Speaker 6: They sell a lot for him. Johnny makes pretty good money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess he does. Where does he get the
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  Speaker 4: stuff from? You know?
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  Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't know that. Someplace downtown. Johnny knows a guy.
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  Speaker 6: He's never told anybody where he goes to meet the guy.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody ever goes with him.
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  Speaker 4: Was Johnny at the shit with you tonight?
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  Speaker 6: No, he doesn't hang around with the kids much anymore.
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  Speaker 6: He's getting a little big time. I think he's got
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  Speaker 6: his own car and good looking girlfriend downtown. Says he's
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  Speaker 6: gonna quit school next month.
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  Speaker 4: Where does Johnny live, son, Can you tell us?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know the address right off. I can check
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  Speaker 6: it in the phone book for you.
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  Speaker 4: How about the kids Johnny gets to sell us? Can
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  Speaker 4: you give us their name?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I think I can remember who they are.
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  Speaker 6: You gonna bring Johnny in.
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  Speaker 4: And talk to him, that's the idea. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if you're gonna find him right away.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: He probably heard about the trouble tonight. And Johnny's a
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: pretty smart guy. I don't think you'll find him very easy.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I think we'll find him.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: Nobody knows much about him. He never talks about what
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: he's doing, never tells anybody anything. Pretty smart guy.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: He told you how smart was that? Complete statements were
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: taken from each of the youngsters we'd brought in for questioning,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: and then in practically all cases they were released into
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: the custody of their parents pending action by the juvenile court.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: With the information we had at hand, it took us
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: the better part of Ford to round up everybody involved
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: in the narcotics distribution system which had been set up
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: among the teenagers in the neighborhood by seventeen year old
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Johnny Demering. As for the Demuring Boy himself, he couldn't
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: be found. We checked with his family, his relatives, as friends,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: all his known associates. We got out a want for him.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Then we checked the car that he owned through DMV.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: We got out a want for that. No sign of
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: the boy. Narcotics Detail gave us a hand and got
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: their informants busy trying to track down the source of
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: the dope for which the Demmuring Boy had been the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: only neighborhood distributor. We knew it went far beyond him.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: It reached to the same vicious men who make their
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: money off the hopeless adult drug addict, the same vicious
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: men who today are trying to build a new market
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: for their wares among the young people of this country. Tuesday,
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: April twenty ninth, two thirty pm. Again right, June Bureau
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Meril Oh, yeah, Briddy, Yeah, huh, that's try what's his name? Yeah, yeah, okay,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: right away, right, but it's ready from narcotics. They figured
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: they got our man, the Demmuring Boy, No, the guy
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: who pushed his stuff to Demmering. His name is Jock o'harris.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: They found him in a Kunty hospital this morning. Somebody
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: got a hold of him two nights ago and gave
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: him a good work and over. We're lucky, we're making
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: What do you mean, he's not supposed to last out
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: the day. Two thirty five pm, Ben and I left
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: the office and went immediately to the Katie Hospital where
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: we were allowed to briefly interview the narcotics suspect, Jock o'harris.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: He was in a critical condition with a fracture of
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: the skull. He gave us a statement in the form
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: of a dying declaration. He admitted being the contact man
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: for seventeen year old Johnny Demmering, and he admitted also
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: that he had kept the boy supplied with enough narcotics
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to keep the neighborhood teenage demand for the stuff fully satisfied,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Sae like.
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: A good kid. Never thought he turned?
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: What do you mean, Jocko, how he turned?
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: Why do you think I'm here?
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: You mean he's the one who worked over? Yeah? Where
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: is he, Jocko? Do you know?
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: No?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Do you know where he's staying? Do you have any idea?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: You all?
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: No?
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: Still all my stuff?
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Every outs?
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: What was it? Heroin? Yeah? Listen, Yeah, get him fast.
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: He's got enough junk to start a war.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: You're in a cruiser car of a metropolitan police department.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: You receive a routine radio car.
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: All units attention, All units pick up and hold for investigation.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: The following vehicle nineteen forty eight Ford, two door Sedan, black,
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: white side wall tires.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: There are many cars that fit this description. You listen
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: for more facts.
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: This car will have extensive damage to write front end
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: license number nine Robert nine seven oh seven in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: seven column nine Robert nine seven o seven.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Now you can pin it down to one.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Wednesday, April thirtieth, nine am. The hunt for seventeen year
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: old Johnny Demmering was intensified, to our knowledge, because of
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: the information we'd gained from narcotics peddler Jocko Harris. The
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: teenage youngster had a large store of high grade heroine,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: which we knew because of his inexperience he was unaccustomed
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to dealing with. In his hands, the narcotics immediately became
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a lethal weapon. We knew that Johnny Demering had only
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: one market to deal in, only one type of customer.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: He was acquainted with the teenager in previous transactions. We
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: knew that the youngsters received only a low grade type
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: of narcotic, highly deluded. We knew that if Demmring succeeded
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: in dispensing the highly concentrated store that he had on hand,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: and the juvenile customers he served tried it on themselves,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it would very likely result in death. Three pm Wednesday,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Despite all our efforts, Johnny Demmering and the store of
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: high greade narcotics which he'd hijacked from Jock o'hrris were
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: still missing. Wednesday twelve noon, we began rechecking every one
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: of the possible sources that might lead us to the suspect.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: One of them was the boy's mother, Missus Francis Demmering.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: We talked to her at work. She was employed as
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: a motograph operator in the mailing department of a large
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: downtown department store.
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: Not since the last time you talked to me, sarje
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: and I haven't heard a word from my boy, nothing
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: at all.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Have you heard anything? Well, yes, ma'am, in a way,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: they've got an idea. There's still somewhere in the city.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: That's why we figured we'd come back and talk to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you again. Have you been in touch with your relatives
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: in town recently, Miss Demmering, I mean knows that Johnny
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: might possibly contact.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's just my sister and my mother.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, ra'am.
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: I guess it just wasn't to be right from the start.
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: Johnny's father ran away, you know. Tried my best after
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: that never seemed to be enough. I suppose there's no
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: getting away from it. A boy needs a father. Try
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: all you want, they still need a father, some kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: of discipline.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: How about the relatives you have out of town, Miss Demmering,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: any word from them? And all about john.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: No, sergeant nothing.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Would you excuse me? Please? This run here is finished.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: I have to get it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Off the machine.
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: Yes, terrible thing, Johnny getting mixed up in all this
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: seems no matter how you try, it's never enough, never enough.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Do you have any idea at all where Johnny would
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: most likely go in down if he didn't want to
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: be seen, missus demmering.
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: We'd go.
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: No, I wouldn't know that, Sergeant. First place, Johnny's never
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: really been in trouble before.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: How about Johnny's school friends, ma'am. Would there be any
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: one of them he might possibly contact in a gym?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: None that I haven't told you about before.
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: I don't think Evelyn, she's the only one I suppose
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: Johnny go to if he needed help if he was
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: in trouble.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: That's his girlfriend at the high school, isn't it, Evelyn maxiwmell.
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, sweet girl.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: How about a girlfriend Johnny was supposed to have downtown somewhere,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: missus demming? Would you know anything about her? Nothing? Really?
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: No name was Betty.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: I think you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Have no idea where she lived downtown?
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: No, I don't, Sergeant.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Well, all right, ma'am, thank you very much, appreciate it
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: if you'd notify us if you hear anything about your
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: son at all.
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: All right, sergeant, thank you. Tomorrow's Johnny's birthday. You know
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: I meant to tell you always expect Johnny home on
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: his birthday. Seems no matter where he is, how he's
• 22:08
  Speaker 10: tied up with his school or sports or something, Johnny
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: always makes it home for his birthday.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I wonder how it'll be tomorrow. He's never missed once,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: not once. Well, if he shows up, I guess you
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: can count on one thing, ma'am. What's that he's going
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: to have to miss next year? Two pm, Ben and
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I picked up a glass of milk and a hot
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: dog for lunch, and then we continued making a check
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: of Johnny Demmering's closest friends. Next in line after his
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: mother was Demering's high school girlfriend, Evelyn Maxford. Relocated her
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: at her home. A tall, attractive brunette, nicely dressed and
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: well mannered, she seemed unusually nervous as we interviewed her.
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: I haven't heard a word, Sergeant. I know tomorrow's his birthday.
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: His mother's expecting him home. I know he won't come though,
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: sure of that?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Are you sure, miss Well? I just know That's all
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I'd like to ask you again. Yes, Are you sure
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: you haven't heard from Johnny Demmering recently in the past
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: two days or so?
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: No, that's what I told you. Don't you believe me?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Do you know why? We're so anxious to locate Johnny,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Miss Matxman, Well, I think so.
• 23:03
  Speaker 11: It's about the narcotics business. You say Johnny had a
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: hand in it, he was selling those things to the kids.
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: I still don't believe it myself.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: It's a lot more than that the way it stands now,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Miss Maxon, what do you mean. Well, when he was
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: at school, Johnny was kept supplied with narcotics by a
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: man named Jock o' Harris. He's what we call a pusher,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: kind of an in between supply man and a narcotics train. Well,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: two nights ago Johnny caught up with this Harris. He
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: beat him up badly enough to send him to the
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: hospital with a fractured skull. And then Johnny stole everybody
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: in narcotics that Harris had in his room, some of
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the strongest stuff you can buy on the market. That's
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: why we want Johnny, Miss Maxley.
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: I don't think I understand. What does it mean?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: It means that most of the teenage kids Johnny's been
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: supplying stuff to have been getting fairly weak grades in narcotics.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: If he gets some of this stuff to them and
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: the kids start taking it, it might prove too strong
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: for him. They take too much of it. It could
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: kill him out right. Now, you see what we're up against.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: We've got to find that boy. We got to find
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: him soon.
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: Couldn't you talk to his mother? Maybe she could tell you.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Something we already have. Man, she couldn't tell us anything.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: That's why we halfway depended on you.
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: Why do they have to put it in my lap?
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: Why does it have to be me? I like Johnny
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: for a while, I don't know what to think.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Now, well, have you heard from a miss Maxford? Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: there's no reason to be afraid. You'd probably feel a
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: lot worse if something happened to one of the high
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: school kids, wouldn't you that?
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: I got a call from him yesterday. Johnny wouldn't tell
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: me where he was. I asked him, but he wouldn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: tell me.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: What else did he say?
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: He knows everybody's looking for He doesn't know about the
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: stuff that he stole. Oh, I'm sure that he doesn't
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: know what it could do.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Did he make any dates with you? Did he want
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: to see you?
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: Yes, he wants to see me. He wants me to
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: meet him tonight.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Where excuse me? Yes? Go ahead?
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: Hello, Yes, I don't know. I don't really what seven
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: o'clock A right, yes, yes, I'll meet him, A right goodbye.
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: That was Johnny just then. He wanted to make sure
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: I was going to meet him tonight. When at seven
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: o'clock tonight, right near Westlake Park, which side the west side, Sergeant,
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: we hope to god it's not true.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: What's it the.
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: Narcotics he stole from that man? He said they were powerful?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yes we did.
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: Johnny's been taking them for two days.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Six forty five pm, Together with two other men from
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Juvenile Bureau, Hurst and Tye, we drove near the appointed
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: spot along the lake in Westlake Park where Evelyn Maxford's
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: meeting with a teenage suspect, Johnny Demmering was to take place.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: We staked out at a reasonable distance and Miss Maxford
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: went ahead to the meeting spot. As far as we
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: could see, there was no sign of Demmering. Somebody on
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the opposite side of the lake was playing a phonograph.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: The music came over faintly across the water. We watched
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: the Maxford girl cross the long stretch of grass down
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: to the lake. She approached the shore, We saw her
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: stop and look down.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Show let's go, come on, yo.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: We ran all away as fast as we could get there.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: When we got close enough, we found out the reason
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: for the scream. He was lying face up on the ground,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: near the edge of a small clump of trees, close
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: to the water. It was a good looking boy, dark hair,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: good build. Took only one look and you knew right
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: away he was too young to be dead. You could
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: argue for a week, but you wouldn't change it. He
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: was dead. The girl stood over him, her face in
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: her hands, crying. No marks on the body, Joe, none
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: at all. It must be it. Huh, an overdose. That's
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: the way it looks to me. We better get her
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: out of here, hadn't we. Yeah, Miss Maxford, come on, Miss.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Maxford, it's starch.
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: It's all right. It's all right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: We'll have one of the other men drive you home.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: We can take care of whatever has to be done here.
• 26:37
  Speaker 11: It was a good boy, It was smart. How do
• 26:41
  Speaker 11: you ever get started such a thing? Could you ever
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: make such a mistake?
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: At He's got the best excuse in the world, miss, Yes,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: he was seventeen.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: The star you have just heard was true. The names
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: were changed to protect the innocent.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: On May second, a coroner's inquest was held at the
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: County Morgue Hall of Justice, City and County of Los Angeles,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: State of California in a moment the results of that inquest.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: At the inquest, the coroner's jury ruled that seventeen year
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: old John Andrew Demering had administered himself an overdose of
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: narcotics and thus had taken his own life. All others
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: involved in the juvenile narcotics ring, a total of eight
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: persons were tried and convicted under the State Narcotics Act.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: They received sentences as prescribed by law and are now
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: serving their terms in the state penitentiary. You have just
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles Police Department.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Stay tuned for Color Spy next on NBC.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This episode portrays something really interesting that we
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: might struggle to relate to, and that is the degree
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to which that the people in this neighborhood are just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: utterly shocked as a seemingly nice neighborhood with good kids
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and good parents went wrong and seemingly out of nowhere.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It's a tragedy, but it feels almost like a sudden disasters.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You know, the families are shocked. Jock o'harris was obviously
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: shocked at giving a kid with big ideas drugs didn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: go well. And of course the only reason that Johnny
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: didn't cause a bunch of kids to old was that
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he himself.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Oh deed.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Today, I think our culture has changed, and there are
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: some crimes that might shock us apps depending on where
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: we lived and how we viewed that area, but we
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: don't really have that same shock about many of the
• 29:23
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• 30:01
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  Speaker 9: Coming in?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's about time, Paul.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I began to think you got yourself another board.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I think the company has thinking on a couple of
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• 31:19
  Speaker 9: Can handle it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Which one particular.
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  Speaker 2: One of our clients, Nina's John welcome.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, I get it. One of the chances somebody getting hurt.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: You don't want your own man to take any chances.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll go.
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  Speaker 4: Anything eighteen.
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: Do you think Mama time down in New York?
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: That's right.
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• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Anyone else and another thing, what that There'll be a
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