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Episode 73 Part II feat. Jay Jackson and Trayvon Robinson - Cy Young Candidates, GM/Managers on the Hot Seat, The ABS System · Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast

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Ask you guys, sorry, sorry. Let me ask you guys this
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question here about the Cy Young candidates.
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Let's talk about some of the early Cy Young candidates or
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guys that you think will be in the mix this year.
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You know you're going to have skiings, you know you're going
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to have scuba in those respective leagues, but who are
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some guys on the outside that you think not really long shots,
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but maybe some sleepers and and some guys that you think will be
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in the mix for both leaves? Well, AD just popped up about
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Yamamoto on my computer, so I'm throwing Yamamoto out there too.
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Chris. I like Chris Shell.
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I like Chris Shell too. If you can stay healthy and
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bounce back, for sure. I want you know what, like I
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guess that sneeze being the first year over there is going
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to be interesting to see how he fares and if he does pitch well,
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then I think he gets the side young over there.
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You know what I mean? Like I feel like they have too
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many of the same pitchers over there, but it's worked so well
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right now in the first week. We'll see how it fares
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throughout the year, but I feel like if he puts up really good
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numbers in the AL ES, he has a chance.
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And then also, like you said, Yamamoto and then sleeper pick,
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two sleeper picks both come in like I said, with the Mariners
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making the playoffs. You got Brian Wu and and George
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Kirby. They are loaded.
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I got a question for you guys though.
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Will we ever see a reliever when the Cy Young ever again?
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Who was the last one to win it? Man, was it was Ganye.
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I went to Eric Ganye. That's what I was going to say.
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Yeah. A.
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Long time. Yeah, that's a long time.
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I mean, but he also, he also had that stupid run where he was
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like. Oh, he was unstoppable.
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He. Was he was like.
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He went like 50 something saves in a row.
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Yeah, something like that. Yeah, he was amazing.
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Canadian too. Throw it in there.
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You guys throw that in there, man.
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Yeah, Nah, you got a Rep with. Edward Diaz, I think Edward
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Diaz, he, he's probably has a, you know, a chip on his
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shoulder, you know, being upset about leaving the mat.
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I mean, being the Mets, you know, when they sign Devin
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Williams goes to the Dodgers, he's in a winning organization.
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I mean, with them, they're going to, they're going to, he's going
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to close a lot of games for them, right?
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He's he's probably the closest thing as a surefire closer as as
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it stands, I think, look, I might be a Homer and call me
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crazy. I think Dylan sees might be in
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this conversation and I think Pete is going to make him into
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the picture that he should have been years ago.
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Knowing that with this track record, you know, with Robbie
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Ray becoming Cy Young from the worst pitcher to best pitcher,
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Marc Westrado becomes an All Star J hop finalist for Cy
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Young. Like a list goes on and on.
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And you know, another project to work with like and I think I
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think Gosman's going to be in the dark horse conversation too.
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I think with him wanting to come back to Toronto, I think after
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that World Series run, I think Gosman's going to be in that
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like he is determined. He is motivated, like what the
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way the team is structured. I think I, I think there's going
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to be a couple JS. I think those two guys pretty
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pretty. But like I said, for me, I think
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that I feel like they just have so many of the same picture in
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there. At some point that staff is
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going to get like they need to be able to not have them get
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exposed all at the same time so much.
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You see what I'm saying? Like I think that's the only
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problem with the whole thing because I understand why they
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have them and why they work so well together, but at the same
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point, I feel like you have a lot of the same picture on one
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staff. Like at some point that
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adjustment in that adjustment period, it's going to hurt
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something. I don't know how it's going to
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hurt and I don't know where it's going to hurt, and I'm hoping
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that it doesn't, but I feel like guys are going to be, you're
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going to see the same guy so much and it's going to feel like
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that, right? We were talking about it before.
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It just feels like that, like you have three guys that
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literally almost have the same arsenal.
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Well, if you look at Treya Savage and he said that the
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biggest part about his Arsenal, how he succeeded was back
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Scherzer. And we know how much of A dog
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Max Scherzer is, right? I mean, knows how to get there,
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the clubhouse, everything. Like you don't mess with them.
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And he was a big part of that run last year.
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And I feel like with them, I comment with you, but I think
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with Pete, they have to work if they have to work until I think
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Cease has worked on a new pitch with the change up this year.
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And that's something to keep an eye on I think.
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I don't like guys that throw change UPS in splits.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like I don't I don't I don't like those pick one, stay with
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one, focus on one and then either add another, another off
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speed pitch that goes east to West, but don't like have a
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split interchange because it's pretty much the same pitch as
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one kind of goes. Slow, right?
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I mean that, that's the thing. I mean, like when you look at
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pictures, you got to, we'll see. And I think another name, I'll
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give you another name, who I think is a big wild card who
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could be a factor is Cam Schlittler for the Yankees.
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I like his stuff. I know I had guys on.
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I talked to guys and they said that he threw up 90 mph a couple
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years ago and he look at look at the way he's pitch he and he's
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going to be a big factor in that rotation if they want to go far
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as well, right? I mean he's if he was a big
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factor for them last year to the to the very end.
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So I think there's some there's some deep pitching in the alias.
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You can't forget crochet. Crochet is going to course big
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animal for the man he's going to be He's going to be their their
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ace for for for a while, right. So, like you said, it goes back
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to the AL ES right. So I mean it comes.
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It just bodes to guys pitch right.
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Is there is I'm just trying to think there's there's hunter
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brown. Any any any takers of hunter
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brown? I think he's I.
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Like Hunter? Up there I like Hunter too.
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I'm with the. Yeah.
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I mean, he's. If there's one constant in that,
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in that Astros rotation, it's Hunter Brown.
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He's the guy who's going to give you, you know, six to seven
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innings every time out, man. Is he the Paul?
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Is he the Paul's Kings of Astros?
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Is he the Paul's Kings of Astros?
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Yes. Yeah, yeah.
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I think so, yeah. Yeah.
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I can see that. Yep, he's not good man.
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His his curveball is nasty man Like I, I, I love Hunter Brown.
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I think he's great. I, I, I definitely agree with
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you on on the Hunter Brown being in that conversation.
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He was there last year, wasn't he?
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Was he one of the guys he. Was there for a year, yeah.
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Three years now, yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
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I mean, he was in the conversation for for Sai Young.
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Last wasn't he in the top five or something?
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Yeah, yeah. Like for most of the year he was
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like right there. And I think he might have tailed
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off a little bit at the end and but yeah, he was.
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I mean, he he pitched a long season.
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He never, I don't think he ever pitched that many innings in his
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career. So it was just one of them
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things I think. But he's nasty do.
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You think Freddy Peralta could be in any conversation?
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I mean, he has the stuff. I mean, I don't think with him
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being in the NL East now, no, I think he'll have a good year,
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but I don't think it'll be NL Cy Young.
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You see what I mean? And that's one of my old
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teammates, too. And I love him to death.
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And I think he'll have a great year, but I just don't think
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it'll be a Cy Young caliber year.
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Like it might be top 15, top 20 Cy Young, but not top 10, top
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five. Yeah, I have to say I'm with
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you. I'm doing seas rocking.
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And you know, for most of the offseason, I was, I was not the
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biggest fan of the of how much money we gave him.
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I didn't like the years. I really wasn't a fan of him as
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a pitcher because I hadn't seen him dominate in that situation
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like he like he did when he was the White Sox in a few years.
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But I don't know, and I'm not overreacting to one start, but
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you could be right about doing CS Man and Pete Walker and the
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Blue Jays. Kind.
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Of. Reaches potential.
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I trust Pete for sure, but like I said, I think it just boils
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down to too many people having the same arsenal.
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That's exactly what we've been saying.
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I don't think it boils down to anything, but I think it's
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everybody. You have so many guys with the
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same arsenal. Even though it's coming out of
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different on slots, it's still the same arsenal.
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But let me ask you, let me ask you this though, with the whole
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splitter guys like you got Ponce season and or sorry, Ponce and
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Savage. Yeah, Godsman Ponce and your
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Savage. I just want to ask you, do you
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think that's a reason why they didn't go out and sign a lefty?
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Like because the splitter plays kind of reverse splits to like
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lefties. I still think you, I still think
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you need the lefty though, like me, I think we talked about it
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before. I think you still need that
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other lefty in there and then maybe you go six man rotation or
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something like that. But I think you still need that
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lefty in there to counterbalance it.
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If you're going to have that many split guys too, because
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even though it might be the reverse splits like you still
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need, I feel like that different slot, you need that look.
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You need that different look still.
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Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.
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I just, I just wonder what your thought was.
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And maybe that's why they didn't feel they needed a lefty in the
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rotation because I was crying for, I thought they were going
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to go after a friend or Valdez or, or, or what's outrageous,
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Suarez. You know, I thought those were
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the guys I thought they were going to go after.
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And then out of nowhere, they signed.
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Dylan sees this massive contract and I think it caught everybody
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off guard. Well, Franberg, Franberg signed.
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Too late too, right? You have to remember like how
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long it took and I think a lot. To I think he wanted to go to
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Detroit. Well, it's also what the
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clubhouse culture too with Houston and that's what waited
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so long like right. You have to remember that his
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whole incident like and The thing is, that's why I'm curious
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to see how he's going to do Detroit and he's the insurance
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policy to school ball, right. So when school was gone, he's
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going to be the richest pitcher of all time, right?
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Once all said and done. And that's why I'm curious to
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see how school bull pitches this year because the reason why I
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say that is because is he going to be more aware of like how
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many ends he's going to pitch? He's going to have the usage
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because he wants to get paid, because he wants to be healthy
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throughout the year. And that's the most important
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part for any pitcher itself, right?
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But for him, especially being a Boris guy, he wants to be the
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highest paid pitcher of all time, right?
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So he wants to surpass Yamamoto contract by miles, right?
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So, and some people think he gets 450, right?
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So we'll see. I don't know.
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I don't know what you guys think about that, but that's what I
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see in things and that's why. He'll get it, he'll get it.
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He got, he got Verlander over there too.
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I mean, I I think he's he's riding on a good, he's riding on
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a good, nice, good wave right now.
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He was in the WBC, you know, you know, he just he's in a good
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spot, man. I think, I mean, honestly, he'd
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probably be a three peated, you know what I'm saying?
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I don't know, he'd probably be 3 peated.
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But you also got crochet over there with the with the Red Sox
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too, so. Yeah, crochet, crochet.
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One thing about the Red Sox, they have a lot of left-handed
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pitching, just like the Jays are, right?
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They have the opposite, like the Red Sox.
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So, and that's going to be another thing to look at too,
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right? Because now, Rangers now in the
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AL East, that's going to be an animal too, right Hitters?
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But that's good for them because there's not a lot of switch
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hitters in the baseball no more so.
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Right, right. But there's a lot of right E
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right, I believe. I mean, I mean, that's the
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thing, right? And that's why I'm curious to
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see how that's going to be this year.
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I mean, it's going to be an animal fight man in that
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division, right. So let me ask you guys the next
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question here. And the next question I want to
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ask you is the rookie class. Like what do you guys think
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about this year's rookie class so far?
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Because we know about guys service manipulations and and so
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on. So far, we haven't seen a start
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like this. Like Chase the Lauder is the
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third player to hit three home runs for three, like for three
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consecutive games, four and three.
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That's only happened three times.
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Merakami was the 1st, 4th person to do it today ever, right?
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But if you look at the way baseball's going, like the way
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the rookie club and like you said, we talked about it off air
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about what about that and you're talking about making
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adjustments. And it's too early to say, of
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course, but I mean, but I haven't seen that many rookies,
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you know, start off like that, that that's all I'm saying.
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Like, what are your thoughts? Like how this is going to work
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out? Because do you think they could
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be sustainable making adjustments and and struggle
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through the process to succeed by by the end of the year?
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Hey, Jay did that Kevin. I will not say his name.
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Hey. Was he in the fall league last
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year? Right.
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No. No, he wasn't on my team, but we
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played against him. He can play.
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I, I, I like him. He he's short.
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He's he got some juice. Well, he, I think he's like a
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little infielder, right? I think he's like second
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baseman. Yeah, yeah, No, no, no.
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He I think, I think with his swing and all that stuff, like,
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I mean, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be surprised.
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They try to lock him up. After this year.
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I think he's going to have a good year.
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I mean, but it's also early to tell, you know what I'm saying?
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He might end up he might end up hitting that wall.
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I mean, he's going to hit the wall at at one point because,
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you know, just because the the the league, the league will will
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figure them out. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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He had a good he had a good game the other day at four hit day, I
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think. But by seeing us us seeing him
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in the fall league, you're a good little player.
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I think I got kind of a fan of him, man.
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I like him. I mean, that's pretty much So
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what I can see. The only rookies on this list I
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see before they got to the big leagues is him.
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And I was like that He can actually play a little bit.
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I like him. Well, like I said, we saw him
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play in the Fall League and like we were talking about before,
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it's how much do they let them develop and how much leeway do
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they give them, How much struggle time, how much success
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do they let them have as well? Like it's going to be deeper
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than just they're playing well because like, again, the
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adjustments are going to be made.
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But that shows you where baseball's at right now, where
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they're giving this many rookies this opportunity to play, right?
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You know what I mean? Like they're giving guys a
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chance to play this early. They're not worrying about
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because they have incentives to kind of play guys more now.
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And there's more incentives for guys to do well now.
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But it's OK. Do you let him go out there and
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struggle? Do you let him play?
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But these rookies are good. Like these guys are playing
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their butts off right now. I mean, they're taking advantage
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of opportunities, right? If you're a rookie and you get
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out there and you get a chance to play, you should just be
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like, hey, I'm out here in looking at it as an opportunity
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more than the pressure. That's on you because especially
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as a rookie, these as young as they are, 9 times that 10,
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you're going to get another opportunity.
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Yeah. These guys, these are all their
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prospects. Normally these aren't guys that
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just crept up out of nowhere. For a lot of these teams, these
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are like these, they're guys. So take advantage of it.
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Being young, like, hey, they want to see me go out here and
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play. Let me play, let me play well,
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let me see what mistakes and just make sure that you see that
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these guys are learning not only from their failures, but from
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their successes as well. And like I said earlier today, I
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mean, earlier in the podcast, like, you know, you got to give
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these guys a chances like what what Jay was saying.
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But I mean, if they break with that team, you're they're
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entitled. I mean, let's just say God
16:29
willing that they're they're staying healthy.
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Give them 550A bats, give it to them.
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You know what I'm saying? Because you thought about you
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thought about putting him on that team, each one of these
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rookies in the offseason. So regardless of what he goes
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through, which he's going to go through some, some, some some
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headaches and some obstacles or whatever, but honor the 5:50 and
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tell him, tell him, Hey, you got 550 at bats this year.
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Stay healthy, have fun. See you at the end of the year.
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Like you know, I'm saying, but they won't do that, but they
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need to. Because if, if I'm AGM and you,
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you guys can probably agree with this too.
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If it's my top prospect, that's my leader of my minor league
17:11
organization. If I, if I have him on the
17:14
forefront and he's batting 260, hell, even if he's batting
17:18
24240, he's holding his own in the big leagues.
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They're probably going to like damn well he's holding his own
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in the big leagues. What else do we got down there?
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And that's when you start making trades, you know what I'm
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saying? And all that stuff.
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But these guys right here, when they break with the team,
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they're the forefront of that minor league organization.
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So you have to, you have to give it to them.
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You have to give those at bats to them and you have to be
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patient with them. You know what I'm saying?
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Because who else you going to have right behind them?
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These probably these guys are breaking with the team.
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They're probably their number one.
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Prospect or again like you said, have to and want to or two
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different things, right? Yeah, for sure.
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Like we can say they have to because that's us being players
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and being baseball minded thinking about that more.
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But do they want to and does the system allow it?
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Does their system want it to happen?
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Does their system allow it? Like we can say that they have
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to all day and we can believe that because that's what we know
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as players is like, hey, you give me enough.
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Let me make the adjustments. And if I don't make the
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adjustments, then I just didn't make the adjustments.
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But it it's not always like that.
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Yeah, yeah. Because they'll put in a
18:31
computer in there. They have the computer in the
18:34
game, but but The thing is they it's also override button in
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that thing too. There's an override button and
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it's also a field, a field thing.
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You know it's a field thing. I think, I think with, with,
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with this, this class and like you said, like they're trying to
18:51
build cords of the future. Like you look at the Marlins,
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for example, they make trades after trades and they try to
18:56
figure out who's the next guy in line, Like who's the next Kyle
18:59
Stores or the next Owen Casey or whoever's out there, right?
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But that's the way baseball's directly going with this young
19:05
man's sport, right? Like look at the Athletics prime
19:09
example, They had two rookies last year and nobody expected
19:12
Nick Kurtz to play what he did. And he became rookie of the
19:15
year, right? Like a lot of people thought, a
19:17
lot of people thought Jacob Wilson was that guy, right last
19:20
year because he was off to a great start.
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It was him and Christian Campbell.
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But Christian Campbell, I don't know where he's at, man.
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He's like a he's a hidden puzzle right now at the moment.
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But yeah, you just like you guys said, like the first month, like
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you could be off to a great start, but it's all about after
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May, after June, after July, like how much can you keep up to
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withstand? Like you mentioned by
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Mcgonagall, I mean, they say that he has a high hit tool,
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right? As an example.
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I mean, Chase the Lauder has like the utmost potential that
19:49
in that roster for Cleveland, like he's a power hitter, right?
19:52
And then you got these couple Japanese.
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I mean that what baseball is, it's like it's like a balance,
19:58
right? Like if you can have one guy,
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two guys, three guys and some of these guys don't want to trade
20:03
their top prospects, right, Rightfully so, right, to build
20:07
for the future, right. And I think that's what's
20:08
important too, right? Like you want you want to see
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where things go with, oh, this guy's going to step up.
20:14
Like, for example, Sal Stewart, like he's already making an
20:17
impact for the Reds. And I'm curious to see how big
20:19
of a factor he is with Suarez now going back there with with
20:23
and Ellie Delacruz, if he can finally like have that big year
20:26
like that, you know, people are expecting to have.
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Right with with that squad, right.
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So I think I think overall you ought to look at it.
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It's all like systematic of how these guys can hit like like
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what do you think about like a Justin Crawford, like Carl's
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kid, Like I know that like like he was doing really well in
20:45
spring training. They've given everyday
20:47
opportunities with him at center field.
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Like what do you think about him?
20:51
Let him let him do his 'cause they already got enough boppers
20:55
on that team right now. We all, we all know that his his
21:00
game is speed. Don't let this analytical
21:03
bullshit try to get him to lift the ball, lift and separate.
21:07
Like I mean, he has to be true to himself.
21:09
And, and I think, I think, I mean, I interviewed with, I
21:13
mean, I didn't interview with him, but I talked to some guys
21:15
over there with the with Philly. I feel like Philly is not as
21:18
strong like at not as strong as analytics.
21:22
You know, they do have a, a, a, a strong feel for the how the
21:25
game should be ran and all that stuff.
21:28
But I think what they should do with JC, they just let JC just,
21:33
you know, make sure his attributes are there every day.
21:35
That's it. But you still got to give him
21:37
five. You still got to give him a lot
21:38
of that. Bats just got to make sure he's
21:39
healthy, but make sure that he's he's not going so far away from
21:44
his game because it's easily to get a go far away from your
21:46
game. When you're in the big leagues
21:48
and you got all these guys telling you this, tell you that
21:50
like, oh man, you hit the ball on the ground, you're doing all
21:52
zip. You hit the ball in the air.
21:53
It's like, no, no. No, no, no, no.
21:55
No, let him be what he needs to be like.
21:58
You know what I'm saying? Everybody's different.
22:00
Let him be, and then he'll figure it out.
22:02
Like his dad, His dad, I mean, his dad hit like, what, 20
22:06
homers? Like what, a couple times a
22:07
year? After a year stealing bases that
22:10
got yeah but he never. He never, he have to shift.
22:13
He never shipped from his game. And I think they shouldn't even
22:17
do that to his son. Like let his son be
22:20
extraordinary good at what he is like, you know?
22:23
Yeah. I mean, I I'm going to talk
22:27
about the guys that I was high on before they ended up being in
22:31
the majors and I get their performing this weekend.
22:35
But like Anno and Casey, I've always liked him and chased a
22:39
lot of Iraqi. Can attest.
22:41
I'm super high on that kid. I, I and Kevin Mcgonagall, of
22:45
course. But I mean, I love that you know
22:48
that they're you know, that they made their opening day rosters.
22:52
I mean, it's kind of hard to ignore when chased a lot.
22:54
Our last two spring trainings almost hits 500.
22:58
I mean, it's kind of just hard to ignore that and say, OK,
23:01
you're not making the team this year when they have the roster
23:04
spots. But it's all, it's all, like you
23:06
guys said, it's all, are these teams going to allow these guys
23:10
to develop at the Major League level?
23:15
Because you know, like, like the, our, our, our, our, our,
23:22
our. Recently retired broadcaster
23:27
Buck Martinez always said that, you know, it takes around 1500
23:31
bats at Major League level to really know what a guy is.
23:33
And, you know, and, and, and the final, the final stage of
23:39
development comes at the Major League level, right?
23:41
They're not going to learn anything more in the minors of
23:44
what they're already doing. So I'm with you guys.
23:46
Just let them come up, let them do what they do and let them,
23:50
you know, show their stuff and let them, let them learn from
23:52
their mistakes and let them, you know, take their Knicks and, and
23:56
cuts and bruises and, and, and try to mend them themself, You
24:00
know, instead of, you know, sending them to the minors,
24:03
letting them, you know, just dominate down there for the time
24:06
they're down there and then call them back, you know.
24:10
That is it. You know who's the name that I
24:13
forgot about? Who, who's who could be?
24:15
Who could be a guy? This year's JJ Weatherholt too,
24:17
for Saint Louis. I like him too.
24:20
Is that the shortstop? Yeah, that's the short.
24:23
Yeah. Got drafted a couple years ago.
24:25
Yeah. Yeah, the college kid.
24:26
Yeah, he he's a pretty good athlete.
24:28
He's pretty, pretty athletic. Their their infield of that team
24:31
is pretty set I think. I don't know about their center
24:34
field situation, but big what like that?
24:37
Their infield, their their info's pretty locked, right?
24:40
Now, yeah, yeah, With their catchers, they got Gorman.
24:44
Gorman and Walker. I like Walker.
24:47
Walker looks like he's, you know, off to a good start.
24:49
But he needs to be he needs to step up, big man.
24:52
He was like their top guy for for a couple years, right?
24:55
Yeah, they, but, but it was, it was all that pressure they put
24:58
on them too. Like they, they send them down
25:00
like they send them down like. They they must just development
25:04
out for that. Though, Yeah, I agree.
25:06
Yeah. They did.
25:08
They could have done that in another way where I think both
25:11
him and the team could have felt better about where they're both
25:14
at right now. Even if he would have had the
25:18
past couple years that he's had, I think they could have felt
25:21
better about it if they would have went about it in a
25:23
different way. But I mean, it is what it is
25:26
like, you know, like I said, they're they're the owners.
25:29
They choose how they want to do it.
25:30
So. Yeah, that's, yeah.
25:34
And I think Saint Louis is finally developing it the right
25:37
way, the way they should, should have been doing right for for a
25:41
while. So at least they're doing that
25:43
right now. And it's going to take a little
25:46
bit for them, but I like, I like what they're doing.
25:48
I got some guys coming right. So well, they got Dustin May
25:51
over there, man, he's the highest paid player, you know,
25:54
So that's that's, you know, they wouldn't say that that's like a
25:59
thing I'd be raving about. But I mean, he does have some,
26:02
you know, some playoff experience and he was with a
26:05
very, very good baseball team, you know, saying over there with
26:08
the Dodgers. So he brings he brings some type
26:11
of playoff atmosphere, energy and all that stuff.
26:14
So. Some veteranship, yeah, yeah,
26:18
definitely. Just trying to think who else
26:21
do. Erinado's gone there too, right?
26:22
They got Burleson. Burleson's another guy for them,
26:26
so I guess they got some youth movement going on, right.
26:30
So I think that Marlins, Rays, Pirates, I mean Connor, Connor
26:36
should be up at some point later.
26:38
Yeah, he'll, he'll be. I think he'll be up in a month.
26:41
I think they're doing the whole like.
26:43
That service. Manipulation service doing that
26:45
crap. But they might, They might, to
26:47
be honest, they might. They might just wait till.
26:49
They might just wait till probably after.
26:53
They might just wait till after All Star break honestly.
26:57
Not yet. I think they're going to wait to
26:58
see how their season goes. Doesn't mean if you look at it,
27:00
look at their roster, the oldest guy on their team is Ramon
27:04
Yurys, you know what I mean? So they're going to play this
27:10
out. They're going to do some Saint
27:11
Louis Cardinals things and try to rebuild this thing a little
27:14
bit and see where they're at and see who they need to start
27:17
piercing in there. Slowly but surely he fits the
27:19
Cardinal way and whatnot and go from there.
27:23
It might sign a veteran somewhere in the next year or
27:26
two to a big long term deal, you know what I mean?
27:29
Yeah, just the piece. And then just so they can have
27:32
somebody to kind of guide the boys in the right direction.
27:37
Yeah, I think so too. I mean, you, you can't mess him
27:41
up, especially him. That's your that's your future
27:45
right there to build around, like the Bobby Witt of of Kansas
27:48
City, right? So you want to make it right
27:51
with him? Yeah, and let him play freaking
27:54
shortstop. Don't don't be like a a cruise
27:57
and just starting to move him out like oh, he's going to be
27:59
no, no, no, no, no. I know Cruz is a big ass boy man
28:04
and yeah big boy dude, 6-7 man 674 stop.
28:09
But but you see, you see Ellie, Ellie still at shortstop.
28:12
He's 66. So it's like, yeah, you know, I
28:16
mean, there's there's just big infielders, you know what I'm
28:19
saying? They before before Cruz even got
28:21
comfortable with being a really good infielder.
28:24
They just moved them out, you know what I'm saying?
28:25
And he was young. So I, I didn't agree with that,
28:28
you know what I'm saying? That's a lot of, I think has a
28:31
lot on your mental when you just like, well, you're not good
28:34
enough to play shortstop. So take your ass in center field
28:36
and it's like, OK, well, if I'm not good enough to play
28:38
shortstop and I start getting my head and there's a lot of change
28:41
UPS, I've been swinging that in the dirt like I maybe I'm just
28:43
not good to be here, but it's like, Nah, bro, you're really,
28:46
really good to be here. They're just moved you out of
28:48
position because you're impatient for no reason, isn't
28:51
right. Isn't Tamar still in the system
28:54
he was supposed? Yeah, yeah.
28:56
He's in like he's in AAA right this year.
28:59
Yeah, Tamar. I think so.
29:03
Yeah, he's in. I mean, I can see, I can see
29:05
both of them actually coming up almost at the same time.
29:09
Yeah, I think so too, because they they need that third
29:11
baseman. He might be their third base,
29:13
right? Like you said, Connor has to
29:15
play shorts up, right? He got build then with that like
29:18
that, that's the guys you got to build, right?
29:20
So I got to get it right there because they have the second
29:24
longest draw what, 10 years without playoffs, right?
29:27
So something's got to give with that team and they they haven't
29:30
won since I was McCutcheon years, right?
29:32
So yeah. Tamar Johnson's in AAA.
29:35
He started a season in Indy, Indianapolis.
29:39
So yeah. The next question though, I want
29:44
to ask you guys is kind of an interesting one, but it's kind
29:47
of a one that's like you got to think about it because it's a
29:50
little bit earlier to you really even be talking about it.
29:53
But some managers and GM's whose jobs could be on the line or
29:58
teams that might be, you know, the back end of the question
30:03
might be a little more sooner for now because we can kind of
30:05
see it. But just teams that could be on
30:08
the horizon of a rebuilds. I'll let you go first.
30:14
You want to go personally because like I got to, I got to
30:18
do more because I mean, the teams have been the teams I
30:23
thought would be on the hot seat like they signed some of their
30:26
managers to extensions, so. Yeah.
30:31
Or they really just signed a new manager to start the year,
30:34
right? Like you know what I mean?
30:35
So there's I don't see anybody being on the hot seat right now.
30:40
I think I want to see how the first half of the year plays
30:45
out, but I really feel like I'll.
30:50
I'll give your team angels. What do you think about the
30:53
angels like? That that's the one and done
30:55
thing. I don't know, man, That's what
30:56
I'm saying that that's. Kind of Harry's contracts done
31:00
after this year too. So, yeah, yeah, so.
31:03
I mean, one year, that's a weird, I don't feel like I feel
31:07
like with him having Kurt Dares as the manager and how that's
31:11
going to go depending on how the how just again, how the season
31:15
goes. Yeah, I.
31:21
Mean in a good way, in a way that's productive and they've
31:24
they've shown some improvement over what they've done the past
31:26
couple years. Then I think they keep them
31:28
around still. You see what I'm saying?
31:29
Because they're not going to let the manager have a different GM
31:32
like off bat like that. I think they'll stay the stay
31:36
again, if it's improvement, I think they stay with the same
31:38
thing. But I feel like if he makes some
31:39
moves or whatever else then they might do something crazy.
31:44
I don't want to. I don't want to sound.
31:46
Weird. For me, it's got to be the Mets.
31:47
For me, it's got to be the Mets. Like Carlos has got to be on the
31:50
hot seat if they don't make. I'm with you.
31:52
I'm with you there. If they if they if they follow
31:55
and fold in the second-half again, like you have to get rid
31:58
of them. Yeah, I'm.
32:00
With you there, I'm with you there.
32:03
I'm trying to think there's another name that see, see, this
32:07
is the thing like the pandering. Yeah, maybe Aaron Boone too,
32:12
man, I think he's he's been there for seven years, right.
32:15
So. Yeah, but I mean, you, the fact
32:18
that they've made it to the World Series, Grant, they
32:20
haven't won, but nobody, I mean, but they you run into a bus saw
32:24
when you face the Dodgers regardless.
32:26
So, you know, the fact that they've made it as far as they
32:29
had and they've had as much success as they've as they've
32:31
had over the past couple years. If you get rid of him, he's
32:34
going to be the top candidate to get another job immediately.
32:37
And then what if he goes to another team and wins the
32:39
championship because it's not the Yankees anymore?
32:42
You rather not have that. And then the Yankees have the
32:46
success they have right now and have the opportunities to win
32:49
these World Series. Then what if they bring in
32:52
another manager and then they go through that lame duck phase for
32:56
2-3 years again and all the Yankees fans are tested?
32:58
You're right. You, I mean, at some point
33:01
you're going to have to ultimately choose.
33:03
But would you rather have the chance and the opportunity to
33:05
look up and have a better team one year than whoever you know
33:09
gets lucky and runs through the NL and you and you win a World
33:13
Series? Or would you rather lose Boone
33:16
and try to get a new voice in there right now and he goes
33:21
somewhere else and they luck up and get hot because he's their
33:24
new voice And your new voice doesn't work too, though.
33:27
Like you know what I mean? Hey Rob.
33:31
Rob has a name. He's been pretty bold about this
33:34
with a specific team and and GMs and jobs.
33:37
Rob, who's the team? I got oh, let me, let me say
33:40
this is it in the Nos. No, it's, it's, it's Rob.
33:46
Who is it? Who you think he's been telling
33:49
me about this? About jobs on the line?
33:54
It's to me and I think about it, yeah, it's it's the Houston
33:58
Astros. They're aging.
34:01
They're you're you know, they don't want to spend money, you
34:05
know what I mean? They they have a manager in Joe
34:13
Espada that you know, and you got to give him time.
34:16
I get it. But and he doesn't have much to
34:18
work with. But it just seems like they go
34:20
out and get a Maya and then they you know, they trade Dubai and
34:23
it's like, I don't know, they don't have a direction.
34:25
Like they don't have guys that are coming up in the wings.
34:28
You know, you have Jordan, but then you have Altuve, Correa, a
34:33
bunch of aging guys. There was a lot of talk about
34:35
trading parades in the offseason, which I don't get
34:38
because he was your best player last year.
34:41
They signed Kristen Walker. He could be in for a bounce
34:43
back. But I just, I don't know if they
34:46
have the pitching man, they're going to want to extend Hunter
34:49
Brown, I guess. But to me, I just think that
34:53
they're closer to a rebuild than they are contending.
34:57
Like I don't see they're making the playoffs this year.
34:59
Well. If I can see that too.
35:02
But like who do you let direct the rebuild though?
35:06
That's a good question. That's a good question, because
35:08
Dana Brown, yeah, he, he's definitely.
35:10
I mean, he's. Good.
35:14
He's been good at what Jim Crane's allowed him to do.
35:16
I'll give him that, you know. Like, do you let him again, do
35:21
you bring somebody else in from one of these other organizations
35:25
that seem to like have the rebuild structure down and then
35:28
see if it works there? But then again, you're making
35:31
everybody the same. Once again, you're just
35:33
following the facts. Yeah.
35:36
Right because you know some GM's right Dana was in a situation
35:40
it's a win now team right. It's not really his team like
35:44
there are some guys that isn't right.
35:47
So there are some trades that he did made of course to build, but
35:52
those guys contracts are up after us here.
35:54
Dana Brown's doesn't have a contract.
35:56
Joe was spotted doesn't have a contract.
35:58
So what is the direction that head head towards for them to
36:02
build? Because if you look at the
36:03
division, if you look at the athletics, they're coming.
36:07
We know that for a fact. Yeah, yeah, Seattle.
36:11
Seattle's gonna be competitive with the way.
36:12
Seattle's here. Seattle's here.
36:14
They. They they Seattle gonna be there
36:16
for a minute, yeah? See, those are the questions you
36:20
have to ask yourself. And like, what's their like?
36:22
Their time, Like they went. They went to a hell of a run
36:25
like they had one. Yeah, they had a hell of a run,
36:28
Yeah. Right.
36:29
So you have to ask like what what direction do they head
36:33
towards? Like do they do they still try
36:36
to stay afloat? But I mean, they need to they
36:39
need to figure out what their future is like because they have
36:41
so many contracts. They're two years or less.
36:43
Like Jeremy Payne is a free agent after 27, Parade is a free
36:46
agent, Hunter Brown the year after that, Jake Myers.
36:49
Like there's so many guys with question mark, with uncertainty,
36:52
like they're gonna have to figure out what the direction of
36:54
that franchise is going to be at some.
36:56
Point straight away Jacob Melton and and Anderson Burrito.
37:00
I didn't. I didn't.
37:01
I didn't like that. I didn't like that trade.
37:03
Trading their young players years away.
37:05
So I don't understand for Mike Burroughs, like, I don't know
37:08
what Mike Burroughs is man like. They're going to miss out
37:11
forever. And look, I know Framber's.
37:14
And for Amber too. And they're going to miss
37:15
Framber. And their fans don't want to
37:17
talk about Framber because they all hate Framber.
37:19
If you type, if you listen to him on Twitter, like they all
37:22
hate the guy, you know, like they're glad he's gone.
37:25
But I'm sorry, he's still forever Valdez.
37:27
And he's going, you're going to miss that, that that production
37:31
in that room. 100% that's what I'm saying.
37:33
That's why I wouldn't fans start doing stuff like that.
37:36
And it's just like, OK, like you don't like this guy, but at the
37:40
same time, like don't like part of the reason you guys were so
37:44
good in winning was because of him so.
37:47
Absolutely. Like, that's what I'm saying,
37:50
The tension right now with the Phillies and Bryce Harper, like
37:54
it's going to bubble over at some point.
37:57
And when it does, those fans are going to be so upset that they
38:02
lost Bryce Harper if they end up.
38:05
Losing. I agree.
38:06
I agree because. They're going to be like, geez,
38:09
like, yeah, like we could have done a little bit better.
38:12
Like he wanted to be here. It didn't get done.
38:15
But we got to see one of the greatest players of all time
38:18
come here and be a part of this and want to be here and try and
38:22
get us to a World Series and almost win one.
38:24
Well, and not and not take that for granted, but like, again,
38:30
fans are more of cliques and excitement and stuff and not
38:35
living in the moments that we try to create because you don't
38:38
know the next time your team's going to get to.
38:40
World Series you just expect. That's right.
38:43
That's right. That's right.
38:44
Everybody just sees the Dodgers do it so much because they're
38:47
the Dodgers. But like I've told people a
38:49
bunch of times, the Dodgers do it because they literally built
38:53
a culture where people want to go there and guys go there
38:57
because not only are they getting better, but they're
39:00
around people that are that played baseball.
39:02
They get to listen to the veterans.
39:04
They're learning stuff all the time and they're developing and
39:08
they're getting paid. Like the Dodgers have built a
39:11
culture where it's like, OK, you come here, we're going to help
39:14
you get better and when, and we're going to pay you.
39:19
I. Hate, I hate to say it man, but
39:21
it's just the perfect template for success.
39:24
Like what they're? Doing I hate and then when
39:26
everybody's pulling for even a rookies that come up and
39:29
everybody's pulling for one another like that bro that I
39:32
don't think people realize how much of A of a of a weight
39:36
distribution that is off somebody's back like.
39:39
That's just you. Just.
39:41
Want to be there? That's it.
39:42
You don't leave and that's the thing, like they've created a
39:46
place and other teams are like once you get one or two guys
39:50
that go to a place and like enjoy being there and one of and
39:53
are starting that culture of OK, this is how we're going to act
39:57
with these guys. And you have people buying into
39:59
it and the front office is buying into it and start buying
40:02
into it too. Because even though the front
40:05
office doesn't want to buy into it, they can sign two or three
40:07
of the right guys and the two guys, two or three guys can
40:10
change that whole culture too. Or if you sign the right
40:13
manager, he can change the whole culture there too, or the right
40:17
different heads of places and people that can change these
40:21
things. But it's a matter of letting it
40:23
happen and then changing it and bringing people in there that
40:27
fit instead of just trying to just be like, we're hitting the
40:31
bottom line all the time because you think the data and the
40:34
analytics piece the shit together.
40:36
The data and the analytics only piece so much together, like the
40:41
actual baseball sense, the baseball knowledge, the baseball
40:43
IQ and then the talent and stuff that goes along with it piece
40:48
together everything that needs to have a team B championship
40:52
team. And again, the Dodgers have
40:53
literally molded that into something.
40:56
The Blue Jays are close right there.
40:58
The you hear with the Yankees all the time with guys who leave
41:01
the Yankees and come back and go to anywhere else.
41:04
They all they do is talk about the Yankees and what happened
41:06
over there. Like different places have built
41:08
that. But there's also places that are
41:10
like. You could fix this if you wanted
41:12
to, but they don't, right? Yep, the two, the 2.
41:17
I mean, I think, I think people are trying to mold themselves to
41:19
being something. They're just aiming to be the
41:23
wrong thing. Like everybody did the whole
41:25
analytics thing and they just like, oh, we're just going to go
41:27
so heavy analytics like, well, the Dodgers won three World
41:31
Series in the past six years. So I think we should just try to
41:35
mold of what they're doing culturally.
41:40
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like take care of your players,
41:43
take care of your players, take care of your like your, your
41:45
amenities, take care of your whatever, whatever it is like,
41:50
you know what I'm saying? But don't just it's not just one
41:53
thing they they that they the Dodgers did, you know what I'm
41:56
saying? So I'm with you bro.
41:59
I'm with you on that. Well, well, the two things that
42:02
matters most in baseball when it comes to recruiting free agent
42:06
or attracting free agents is culture and winning.
42:09
I think those are the two most important things.
42:11
And money. And money, of course.
42:14
Money. Money's definitely there, man.
42:16
These some of these players care about money more than they do
42:19
winning. Man, You know what?
42:22
20 million dollars, $20 million in in in San Francisco to to
42:26
$16,000,000 in LA. I'm going to LA.
42:32
But but who's giving Boba Shed $42 million?
42:35
Who's giving Tucker $60 million? In those cases, the Jays offered
42:40
him 10 years. But but because the Dodgers
42:44
offered him $60 million, which I'm glad he went to the Dodgers
42:48
for that kind of years, you go have them.
42:51
I think I think it was all the the the Canadian.
42:54
I I never wanted him anyway, Trayvon, so I'm good with him
42:58
going to the five year rock. I I I didn't Rocky can attest to
43:02
that. I've said all I never when these
43:05
guys were all gloating about this, Tucker, I never wanted
43:08
them then. They compliments that line up
43:11
way too well though. And we'll see.
43:14
We'll see how he does. I I just didn't want him at the
43:19
years. I'm not saying he doesn't,
43:22
though. You're you're right.
43:23
I mean he does. I just didn't want him.
43:24
I don't think we need him for all that money, but it is been
43:28
years I guess. He got, he got paid.
43:34
October and November. Yeah, Yeah.
43:36
We'll, we'll, we'll find out in October and November.
43:39
That's. Right.
43:39
Can't wait for the prediction. The prediction's going to get
43:42
high. Navy I got.
43:42
I got some predictions. You know, again, I don't think
43:46
he fit well. And yeah, he he tore it up in
43:48
the first half of last year in Chicago, but he probably fits
43:52
well but in Dodger Stadium over Chicago anyway.
43:55
But yeah, I don't know. I just, you know, I think he
43:59
took the money. I think Bo took the money too.
44:02
But but Jays didn't want to bring Bo back.
44:04
I don't think that. That that really disturbed me.
44:09
Yeah, I mean, he disturbed me too, bro, because we talked
44:11
about that like you, they should.
44:12
Have just said that long. Time ago when he was.
44:15
Yeah, I agree, completely agree. I was, I was bummed when they
44:20
didn't bring him back, but then I saw 42,000,000 and I said OK,
44:23
I'm not so bummed anymore, but I'm still bummed at the players
44:26
in here. I love Beau, you know, at the
44:29
end of the day, but like you said, they should have brought
44:34
them back earlier at a cheaper price.
44:36
But this front office sometimes they wait until the very last
44:40
second of I goko happened with Vlad, right.
44:48
OK, what do you you know, we're through one weekend.
44:52
We've seen it in in spring training.
44:55
What are your guys thoughts on the ABS system and how it's
44:58
working so far? Trash.
45:02
I love. I love it man.
45:04
Bring that, fireman. Trash, I think I think is is is
45:08
they should just buy stock in trash bags.
45:11
To be honest. I think it's awful.
45:16
I mean, I mean, this is this is me like what I what I think that
45:21
baseball got so much money, right?
45:23
They got so much money and you got how many players on the
45:27
field, how many people on the field at one time on that grass
45:30
bro, you got you got 4 umpires, you got 10 different guys.
45:36
You got people in the dugouts and stuff like that.
45:38
You telling me you can't incentivize those umpires for
45:41
being great? Yeah.
45:45
You can't just be like, all right, man, well, whoever has
45:47
the best stats of this and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
45:49
gets let me see $1.5 million or or even $10 million.
45:54
Like you have enough money to do it and it's just a write off
45:57
because this is the operational thing.
46:00
Like you have the money to do it.
46:02
You spent all this money on ABS when you literally you just you
46:07
just you're just showing. You're just showing like how
46:12
like you're embarrassed in a guy back there.
46:13
Pretty much that's what I look at.
46:15
I like, well, you just, you know, you just made him look
46:18
terrible. OK, by by what?
46:21
By by what? Maybe 1/2 an inch or not even a
46:24
half an inch, maybe like 3/4 of an inch.
46:27
I don't know, Like I don't, I don't know what it is, but I, I,
46:30
I personally think I don't like it.
46:32
Those guys are human. Those guys are human too.
46:35
And I know they're just, and I don't think it's making the game
46:37
faster. I think it's making the game
46:39
slower. I'm going to, I mean, I, I, I
46:44
definitely agree with Trayvon to the most part just because it's
46:49
got to be some type of barrier or some way that again, when
46:55
these balls are half an inch off or not even half an inch, like
47:01
less than like 1/4 of an inch off or something like that.
47:04
It's not like we're making these umpires spill like crap because,
47:09
I mean, they are human, even though we get pissed off and we
47:12
wanted to be right. But like a lot of these pitches,
47:15
like they weren't strikes before, but now they're barely
47:17
nicking the plate and they're calling them strikes where
47:19
before they weren't strikes anyway, like, you know what I
47:25
mean? And then there's pitches that,
47:27
you know, were balls before that, you know, you earned them
47:30
to beat strikes because of how the game hit went and because of
47:34
how you were being successful. And that's being taken away now,
47:37
too. So I mean, I get it.
47:40
But ultimately you want everything to be as fair as
47:42
possible, right? So I get it.
47:46
But I feel like there's got to be something that we can do
47:48
where it's like, OK, have the shadow box back or something
47:52
where it's like, OK, the umpire still gets credit for this
47:56
technically being like a ball, but we're not making them feel
48:01
bad because there's a buffer in it, you know what I mean?
48:04
Yeah. Yeah, I just.
48:07
Had that before but I think I don't know.
48:10
What? What about when the batter's
48:12
wrong though? You know, does not make the
48:14
umpire look good. Be like, ha ha, you're wrong.
48:18
It was a ball. It was a ball.
48:20
It was a strike. You know, it makes somebody look
48:23
bad regardless though, but that's what.
48:25
Does. You know what I mean?
48:27
But that's what as fans and as entertainment we want to see, is
48:31
that emotion in those moments and things like that, instead of
48:35
it realistically just being about the baseball game and the
48:38
people that are playing. Right.
48:40
I agree. I agree with that.
48:41
I agree with both of you guys did.
48:43
You did you see 22 objections already happened due to the ABS
48:47
was Derek Schellen from the twins and yeah because he was
48:51
upset that what's in it Ryan Halsey last minute tapped his
48:55
head for for the challenge right like when Josh Bell went for the
48:59
walk and. Oh, yeah, yeah, I just seen
49:01
that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:02
Is there is there a time limit on that?
49:04
Like there's like you have like 10 seconds to do it.
49:07
Like is there like I? Don't, I don't know, That's a
49:09
good question because now they just adapted this year, so
49:13
there's going to be a lot more ejection.
49:15
There's already first three games, first three days or
49:18
whatever, if you want to include the Yankees, Giants, there's
49:21
already 2 managers that been injected, right?
49:23
Alex Cora with CB Buckner yesterday and Derek Sheldon
49:27
today. And man, how many more of that
49:29
we're going to get to see this year that I'm intrigued to see
49:31
what's going on with that because if it becomes a problem,
49:34
then, well, you know what's going to happen, right?
49:36
Especially during the negotiations with the CBA, it's
49:39
going to, it's going to get, it's already looking ugly as it
49:42
stands. Right, bro, just like just like
49:44
was Salvi, Salvi called back-to-back as like called
49:48
those ABS on challenges back-to-back like that.
49:50
You think that kept you think that umpire wasn't like pissed
49:53
about that? Bro, if it if it's me, I'm not
49:55
just I'm not. I mean, I'm probably a little
49:58
evil thinking this way, but I'm just going to be honest.
50:00
Like if if you call ABS going to challenge, I will not give you
50:06
at least two or three pitches and I will bang your ass when
50:10
you come up to the plate. It could be a ball at your face.
50:13
I'd be like, ha, strike is in there, cross the plate.
50:16
You know, like like I just, I just feel like you're going to
50:19
pull out so much more emotion with those guys because
50:22
everybody's now like, oh, well, this guy's terrible behind
50:24
everybody. Those guys are not that bad
50:26
behind the plate, especially to be in the big news.
50:28
They're not that bad. But I tell you what, they have
50:30
their days. They're not that bad, but how
50:33
you can make them better compensate them.
50:36
It's the easy it's the easy fix. And you just spent millions of
50:39
dollars, the billions of dollars or whatever it is on this
50:41
Hawkeye shit. Like I just, I just think I
50:43
don't like it. I just, I just think that you
50:45
could have spent that money somewhere else.
50:48
You could have. Do you know, there's much of A
50:51
need for other things necessary for a dresser?
50:54
Like, you know, they were saying years ago that they were
50:56
supposed to put censor on the foul poles, whether it's a home
50:59
run or not, like, because sometimes it graces.
51:03
And The thing is, I remember it was a Nate McCloud.
51:06
I think he had a home run and it looked like it hit the pole, but
51:09
they said it was foul and they, they kept like replaying saying
51:13
it was foul foul. But I, I mean, they, they were
51:15
determining at the time like they had, there was a lot of
51:18
censors on the foul poles years ago.
51:20
I'm kind of with you there about that because like there's too
51:23
now technology's too involved now.
51:25
I was like you guys. I think I don't, I don't mind.
51:28
I just think that it's probably some it's in the wrong area,
51:31
like, you know, so I don't think it should be so much so invested
51:34
into like, you know, that like it should be spread out, like if
51:38
you're going to make it, if you're going to make it
51:40
technology advanced, like it should be OK.
51:42
Well, make sure you have a camera on the fucking bag.
51:46
Make sure the bag blows up and make sure he doesn't like he
51:48
doesn't miss the bag or something.
51:50
I don't know bro. Like you know, a fair ball, like
51:53
maybe chalk and maybe a fucking zebra pops up when when he is a
51:57
fair ball. I don't know dude.
51:58
Like I don't know what you can really come up with.
52:01
But I mean, I mean how much technology?
52:04
How much technology do you need when you got 6 umpires in the
52:07
playoff game? Well, we play, we play
52:09
challenges is already becoming a thing now.
52:11
So they're like, oh, other things have to be in need,
52:14
right? So like The thing is that it's
52:16
like a missing element is like you got to you got to balance
52:18
the way it should be, right? Like it feels weird to me with
52:23
the ABS system. I haven't put enough thought to
52:26
it because I have to see how this season goes with this whole
52:28
process because I want to know what the trials and errors of it
52:33
because it's what this is real new and they've been doing it in
52:36
the minors for like 2-3 years now, right.
52:39
So it's like for these younger guys, they already know how to
52:42
take advantage of the sister compared to the veterans that's
52:44
been around the league for years, right?
52:47
Only the catchers are the ones who could take advantage.
52:49
I saw Alejandra Kirk and shit like lyrics when I watched the
52:52
Jays game. They were like, Kirk is pretty
52:54
good at it. And I mean, he's, I guess he's
52:57
used to it, but at the same time it's like it's like, oh man,
53:00
that like it's, it's, it's just random.
53:02
And then and, and it could be advantage for both guys, like
53:05
especially for pitchers, but we'll see.
53:07
I don't, I don't know. It's it's tough to say how this
53:10
goes after three days, but I mean, you already seen the
53:12
ejection. I think we're going to see more
53:13
of it. We know all these umpires,
53:15
right? They're going to make egregious
53:16
calls. They're going to make clothes.
53:18
They're like right around the corner.
53:19
I mean, nobody's perfect about this bed.
53:22
We know Joe West has been like there for four years.
53:25
We know how bad umpires, but I mean.
53:26
Well, Joe W wants everybody to know he's Joe W That's the only
53:29
thing he has. He has a he has a, he just has
53:32
a, a character problem. Like hey, I'm Joe W, like, oh,
53:35
right. But I'm not even going to roll
53:37
like he's he's he can be. He's real good behind the play.
53:40
I ain't gonna lie about that. But you know, there's times he's
53:43
human and he's just like, well, I'm Bill W it's like I do.
53:47
Well, I'm gonna pay five $5 in gas and you know, it's OK.
53:53
It's. Fine.
53:56
Oh, man, yeah, I mean that. We'll see.
53:59
I mean, I just hope, I mean, they're they already got so much
54:04
things involved that change the game already.
54:07
I mean, we've been watching baseball.
54:09
All of us have to watch baseball for such a long time.
54:11
And I mean, let's let's see. I just, I just don't know what
54:15
to think of it so far. But I mean, I mean, like you
54:18
said, like there's going to be a lot of miscalculated and it's
54:21
like it's all like minuscule too, right?
54:23
Like every little thing matters for these guys too now all of a
54:26
sudden, right? It's going to be so dependent on
54:28
the calls, right? Like, like if it's like far
54:31
away, like, oh, it's like, OK, yeah, OK, I understand that.
54:34
Like, but I don't know, you think 33's a lot of challenges
54:38
or do you think they should cut it down to like one or two the
54:41
most, I mean. Somebody, somebody did the other
54:43
day when it was the first pitch of the game.
54:48
I'm cool with three. Yeah.
54:50
Three's fine. Yeah, 33 should be good, you
54:53
know.