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The Modern UFO: How the Story Was Engineered | Ryder & Derek Stitt · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: All right, what's up, stickheads? We are back this time.
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Speaker 1: I know we got looming war with Iran going on,
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Speaker 1: we got Epstein files, but today we're going to be
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Speaker 1: talking a little more about the X.
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Speaker 2: Files type situations.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we've got distractions going on or
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Speaker 1: if we got real disclosure, but welcome to the show, rider,
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Speaker 1: Lee Man.
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Speaker 2: Let's break this down a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on, Brother, really appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, we're in really fascinating times. We've got so
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Speaker 3: much stuff happening in the Epstein files, the UFO files,
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Speaker 3: war with Iran, There's so much going on all of
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Speaker 3: one time. And I think that I've been seeing on
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Speaker 3: my show for a long time. We never get the
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Speaker 3: conclusion to anything that happened before. We're just kind of
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Speaker 3: shuffled on to the next thing. And with the Epstein files,
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Speaker 3: it's there was three point five million files dropped and
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Speaker 3: it's going to take a really long time to get
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Speaker 3: through that. And we've just kind of now scratched the
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Speaker 3: surface of that, and now we're going to be shuffled
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Speaker 3: onto something completely different, which is the supposed UFO files,
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Speaker 3: which happened when Obama got on some random person's podcasts
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Speaker 3: that no one's really ever heard of, kind of popped
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Speaker 3: up out of nowhere, like a lot of these, I
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Speaker 3: don't know, intelligence types of podcast Ultration is starting to
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Speaker 3: kind of happen, definitely from the left because the right
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Speaker 3: has kind of dominated these spaces for a really long time,
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Speaker 3: and now we have Netflix doing podcasts now. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if you've seen it.
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Speaker 2: I saw that, Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's unbelievable. And that's not even a podcast, dude,
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Speaker 3: Like a podcast is the only way that you can
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Speaker 3: designate yourself as a podcast is if you have an
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Speaker 3: audio only version of the podcast, Like, you're not a
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Speaker 3: podcast if you don't have an audio only version. Now
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Speaker 3: they're talking about that it's just two people talking and
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Speaker 3: that means that it's a podcast. It doesn't make any sense,
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Speaker 3: but it seems like we're getting this heavy info in
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Speaker 3: from the left into these spaces. And I'm not right
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Speaker 3: or left. I'm just saying what it is. I kind
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Speaker 3: of really tend to stay out of politics in a
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Speaker 3: lot of different ways, but I'll still comment on certain
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Speaker 3: things that are going on.
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Speaker 1: That's the good thing about maybe in like a registered
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Speaker 1: libertarian is like I can sit back and be like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let me talk crap about the right for a minute. Oh,
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Speaker 1: you're on our side. No, let me talk crap about
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Speaker 1: your side for a minute. Let's just keep it as
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Speaker 1: real as possible.
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Speaker 3: Well, we've been so polarized on each side, and when
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Speaker 3: you criticize one side, they think that you are of
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Speaker 3: the other side. You know, So if you criticize the left,
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Speaker 3: they think that you're on the right, and if you
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Speaker 3: criticize the right, they think that you're on the left.
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Speaker 3: It's just this complete polarization of the entire political system,
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Speaker 3: which then gets into this entire UFO topic, because the
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Speaker 3: UFO topic has been a polarization from the very beginning,
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Speaker 3: huge rise in the contact e and ufology community as
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Speaker 3: a whole, which is used to really play upon superstition
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Speaker 3: and folklore in a lot of different ways, and really
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Speaker 3: understanding this component of the entire UFO phenomenon is really important.
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Speaker 3: And this is where the entire modern myth starts is
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Speaker 3: with Kenneth Arnold in nineteen forty seven. Now that's not
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Speaker 3: where the phenomenon starts. The tracks way back thousands of years,
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Speaker 3: but they weren't called UFOs or flying saucers. Back then,
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Speaker 3: there were shields, there were pillars, they were flying chariots.
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Speaker 3: I know the history of this stuff, and I'm talking
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Speaker 3: about modern times here, because you always have that. You
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Speaker 3: know that one person in the comment section of every
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Speaker 3: single video referencing the Vedas or the Book of Ezekiel
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Speaker 3: or Enoch to reinforce their preconceived notions about UFOs and extraterrestrials,
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Speaker 3: and they use that as proof, and they would be
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Speaker 3: right and saying that some sort of phenomenon goes back
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Speaker 3: act further than nineteen forty seven, and you also have
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Speaker 3: the Battle of la and all that stuff, which it does,
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Speaker 3: but we're not focusing on that. We're focusing on modern
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Speaker 3: sightings and how the term flying saucer came to be,
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Speaker 3: because they weren't called flying saucers before Kenneth Arnald in
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Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven, Kenneth Arnold really kicked off the entire
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Speaker 3: phenomena and termed the phenomenon flying saucers. But this turns
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Speaker 3: out to be a giant misinterpretation and misunderstanding of what
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Speaker 3: he said that he saw. So for the people that
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Speaker 3: aren't familiar with Kenneth Arnald, he was a very well
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Speaker 3: respected aviator. He was a businessman and later he became
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Speaker 3: a politician. He again was one of the first and
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Speaker 3: modern times to report a strange craft in the sky.
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Speaker 3: At around three pm on June twenty fourth, nineteen forty seven,
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Speaker 3: that Arnold was piloting his A two plane in the
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Speaker 3: skies around a mountain Rainier, Washington, searching for a missing
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Speaker 3: marine aircraft, and he claimed to have witnessed a string
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Speaker 3: of nine objects at around ten thousand feet. They flew
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Speaker 3: at what he said amazing speeds of what Arnold estimated
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Speaker 3: at around fifteen hundred miles an hour. And after witnessing
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Speaker 3: these craft, he landed his plane in Yakima, Washington and
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Speaker 3: told his friend Al Baxter about the sighting. Arnold then
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Speaker 3: shared his story with other pilots and friends and people
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Speaker 3: and told him what he had saw, and they responded
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Speaker 3: us seeing that what he must have saw was military
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Speaker 3: missiles or military planes or military project And that's a
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Speaker 3: pretty good explanation because if you look at the actual
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Speaker 3: drawings of what Arnold said that he saw, it looks
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Speaker 3: very similar to a B two stealth bomber, which was
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Speaker 3: a classified air aft at that time, and it was
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Speaker 3: revealed years later. But Arnold, not being convinced by his
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Speaker 3: friends that this must have been some sort of military
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Speaker 3: missile or military craft, he walked into a local news
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Speaker 3: station and he told his story to a gentleman named
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Speaker 3: Nolan Skiff. Now, Nolan published a short article and then
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Speaker 3: that story was then forwarded to the Associated Press for
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Speaker 3: worldwide distribution, and the term flying saficer was born. Now,
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Speaker 3: it's important in the beginning to realize that Kenneth.
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Speaker 4: Artold was very reserved about.
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Speaker 3: His account and the craft that he witnessed. But the
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Speaker 3: story progressed in public interest, became so popular and it
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Speaker 3: turns into this gigantic media frenzy. Okay, Now, when you
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Speaker 3: look at Arnold's testimony, what she did a lot of
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Speaker 3: interviews and a lot of radio shows. He never used
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Speaker 3: term flying saucer to describe the shape of the craft.
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Speaker 3: He said that it was bat shaped, crescent shaped, boomerang
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Speaker 3: shaped with wings. And he said that his comments on
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Speaker 3: the sightings were misunderstood, and he even worked very hard
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Speaker 3: up until the end of his life in nineteen eighty
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Speaker 3: four to combat this entire flying saucer narrative. Okay, So
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Speaker 3: the sketches that Kenneth Arnold drew to describe what he
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Speaker 3: saw doesn't even come close to the commonly accepted version
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Speaker 3: of what UFOs look like. And then later on in
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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty, an artist rendition of what Arnold saw came
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Speaker 3: out and that doesn't look anything like a flying saucer.
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Speaker 3: And now what had happened was Nolan Skiff, the journalist
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Speaker 3: that published Arnold's story in the newspaper, said that Arnold
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Speaker 3: cited nine saucer like aircraft and the media took that
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Speaker 3: wasn't even a quote from Arnold. He just created that,
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Speaker 3: and the media took the saucer like aircraft and ran
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Speaker 3: with it and created headlines saucer shaped craft spotted when
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Speaker 3: Arnold literally never referred to the shape of the craft
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Speaker 3: as saucer and shape it was bat shaped, crescent shaped,
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Speaker 3: shaped like a boomerang, and sometimes even he said it
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Speaker 3: was shaped like a pie plate or a pie pant
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Speaker 3: Okay an interview with Arnold by the United Press, he
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Speaker 3: said that they were half moon shaped, oval in the
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Speaker 3: front and convex in the back. So in nineteen sixty
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Speaker 3: Arnold came came out with the drawing of the craft
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Speaker 3: he saw, and it is bat shaped, circular shaped winged
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Speaker 3: in the back. And you'd think that Arnold coming out
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Speaker 3: with this drawing of the craft would stop all of
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Speaker 3: the flying saucer talk, but it didn't. It's too late
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Speaker 3: by then in the flying saucer narrative would become such
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Speaker 3: a huge topic, others reporting seeing flying saucers, and there
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Speaker 3: wasn't any correcting the narrative at that point. The narrative
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Speaker 3: had spun out of control and it had gone so
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Speaker 3: far that there was no reeling net back in. So
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Speaker 3: this became a frenzy topic, everybody reporting strange craft. Now,
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Speaker 3: this is a quote directly from Arnold in relation to
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Speaker 3: what everybody else, because this really started the entire thing.
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Speaker 3: Everyone started seeing flying saucers.
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Speaker 4: After that and reporting.
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Speaker 3: In flying saucers, which really speaks to what is actually
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Speaker 3: happening here. It's the same with Bud Hopkins. It's the
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Speaker 3: same with several people in this space. Whenever they put
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Speaker 3: out something in a book or the media that talks
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Speaker 3: about it, everybody starts seeing it and it becomes this
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Speaker 3: very popular. It's an aggregre, is what it is. Another
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Speaker 3: quote from Arnold states that he feels that the phenomena
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Speaker 3: should be labeled something different in a strange type of
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Speaker 3: aircraft instead of a flying saucer. So on April seventh,
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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty, Arnold spills the beans on the whole entire
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Speaker 3: flying saucer misrepresentation and misquote. Arnold said that the objects
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Speaker 3: that he witnessed fluttered like they were boats on really
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Speaker 3: rough water. And this part is the most important part
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Speaker 3: because it's where the miss representation came from. In the misquote,
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Speaker 3: he said when the crafts flew, they flew like.
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Speaker 4: A saucer thrown across water.
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Speaker 3: He said that from the very beginning, and most newspapers
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Speaker 3: misunderstood and misquoted him saying that the shape of the
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Speaker 3: craft was saucer in shape. When Arnold said that they
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Speaker 3: flew like saucer's being thrown across water, not that the
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Speaker 3: shape the crowd was saucer and shape, okay, He said
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Speaker 3: that they flew like saucer's being skipped across from water,
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Speaker 3: like a rock being skipped across water. And the headline
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Speaker 3: said that they were saucer in shape, which is probably
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Speaker 3: the biggest misquote of all time and misunderstanding of all time,
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Speaker 3: which really kicked off this entire thing, and later on, Arnold,
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Speaker 3: you know, started changing his thoughts and his ideas about
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Speaker 3: what they were, saying that they were jellyfish and that
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Speaker 3: they could change shape and then morph into whatever they
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Speaker 3: wanted you to see, and related it to the Bible
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Speaker 3: and the Book of Ezekiel, and you know, he was
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Speaker 3: more than likely one of the first people to do that.
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Speaker 3: That was in nineteen fifty two, which Arnold has he
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Speaker 3: had many other sightings after that. He had to eat
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Speaker 3: other sightings after nineteen forty seven that really no one
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Speaker 3: talks about they were, but they were probably more than
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Speaker 3: likely misidentified birds or balloons or whatever. But here's the
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Speaker 3: really important part now when we get into the term
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Speaker 3: of what flying saucer actually was, because before it was
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Speaker 3: associated with the UFO phenomenon, flying saucers was a sport
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Speaker 3: that predated arnold sidings by over sixty years, which was
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Speaker 3: called trap shooting, which was started in the late eighteen
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Speaker 3: hundreds as a way to train hunters.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, shooting clay pigeons.
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Speaker 3: Get exactly, in which they released the live birds, and
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Speaker 3: then later on it became changed to these clay pigeons
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Speaker 3: because of animal rights activists said that you're just killing
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Speaker 3: a bunch of birds. But a man named Charles the
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Speaker 3: Whiskey in nineteen eighty he dubbed these little clay pigeons
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Speaker 3: flying saucers. Okay, so by the early nineteen hundreds, flying
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Speaker 3: saucers clay pigeons had become very popular as a sport.
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Speaker 3: There were competitions, championships, and the skies of North America
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Speaker 3: were There are newspaper articles with headlines and the early
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Speaker 3: nineteen hundreds that said skies are covered in flying saucerers
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Speaker 3: flying through the air, exploding and falling to the ground,
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Speaker 3: which is the exact replica of the phrases of what
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Speaker 3: everyone thought several decades later, with Kenneth Arnold's sightings and
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Speaker 3: the Rosweld incident. By the twentieth century, the name flying
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Speaker 3: saucer had become a common name used for over two decades.
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Speaker 3: The sport of flying saucers became so popular it was
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Speaker 3: adopted by the Olympics. In nineteen sixteen, the number of
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Speaker 3: participants in the sport of flying saucers was six hundred
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Speaker 3: thousand people in the US. They all knew the term
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Speaker 3: flying saucers, and these little clay pigeons were called flying saucers.
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Speaker 3: The military even adopted it to train their soldiers in
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Speaker 3: target practice at the beginning of World War II. So
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Speaker 3: you put two and two together there. Okay, So we
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Speaker 3: have clay pigeons being called flying saucers since eighteen eighty,
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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people being from the term. The
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Speaker 3: military adopted the term and the practice in the early
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Speaker 3: forties during World War two, and two years after the
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Speaker 3: war ended, we get the term flying saucer, but under
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Speaker 3: a different context. This is all laid out in the
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Speaker 3: book by my friend Chris Albeck. He's been on my
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Speaker 3: show a few times now, and he really immerses you
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Speaker 3: into the Kinneth Arnold sightings. He shows pictures of these
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Speaker 3: clay pigeons, he shows how all of this is related together.
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Speaker 3: The name of the book is called Salcers. You can
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Speaker 3: get it on Amazon Prime. So what we have here
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Speaker 3: is that the entire UFO subject in ufology is based
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Speaker 3: upon a fallacy, and ufology has been using the shape
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Speaker 3: of a round disc when it was never described by
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Speaker 3: Arnold as a disc or a flying saucer. We've initially
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Speaker 3: had the shape wrong this entire time. Yeah, We've essentially
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Speaker 3: been telling and regurgitating a misrepresentation of what Arnold said
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Speaker 3: that he saw, and out of Arnold's own words, what
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Speaker 3: other claims, what other people claim to us all at
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Speaker 3: the time wasn't the same as what he saw, or
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Speaker 3: it was absolutely nothing at all, okay? And I challenge
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Speaker 3: anyone to find a quote of Arnold saying that the
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Speaker 3: shape of the craft was saucer like, not what other
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Speaker 3: people quoted him as saying, because they obviously got it
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Speaker 3: wrong and misinterpreted his words. But find a quote of
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Speaker 3: Arnold himself saying that the craft that he witnessed on
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Speaker 3: June twenty fourth, nineteen forty seven was flying saucer and shape.
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Speaker 3: You can't and you won't because it doesn't exist. The
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Speaker 3: flying saucer mythology is a lie, it's a fallacy, it's
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Speaker 3: a misnomer. It's a misrepresented quote from a newspaper, reporter,
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Speaker 3: journalist and researchers. And it's still the most popular symbol
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Speaker 3: of ufology to this very day, even though it's not
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Speaker 3: called flying saucers anymore. Flying saucers are the basist and
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Speaker 3: the root of modern ufology, every conference, every UFO documentary, YouTube, thumbnails,
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Speaker 3: and is it too okay? Use the flying saucer art.
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Speaker 3: When it's a lie, that's never what they look like.
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Speaker 2: All right?
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Speaker 1: Are they going to just show us military stuff that
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Speaker 1: they've been hiding or do you think there's going to
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Speaker 1: be any real disclosure on things that we've been questioning forever?
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Speaker 3: Well, that gets you into a completely different topic of
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Speaker 3: Paul Benowitz. Are you familiar with Paul Benowitz? Paul Benowitz
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Speaker 3: and all the events that surrounded him in nineteen seventy nine.
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Speaker 3: Paul Benowitz was an American businessman and a UFO investigator.
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Speaker 3: Benn Witz. He was born in Kansas. He earned a
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Speaker 3: bachelor's degree from Arizona State and during World War Two,
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Speaker 3: Benawitz was a radio electronics engineer for the Coast Guard.
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Speaker 3: He worked as an engineer for San Francisco, a CBS station,
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Speaker 3: and a radio station in Tucson. Around February twenty fifth,
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Speaker 3: nineteen forty nine, whit It's married Cindy Brunch and Phoenix, Arizona.
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Speaker 3: Around nineteen fifty three, bin in Wits moved to New
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Speaker 3: Mexico and began his own industrial sales company. In nineteen
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Speaker 3: sixty six, bin in Wits acquired the rights to a
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Speaker 3: humidity censor from the National Laboratories. He founded a scientific
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Speaker 3: company called Thunder Scientific, small family business with his wife Cindy,
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Speaker 3: that would develop high powered instruments for NASA and the
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Speaker 3: Air Force. So during the nineteen seventies, bin Witz became
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Speaker 3: a member of Arizona's Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization, which was
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Speaker 3: a civilian UFO investigation group which was ran by the CIA.
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Speaker 3: Right by the mid nineteen seventies, cattle mutilations became associated
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Speaker 3: with UFOs. On April twentieth, nineteen seventy nine, the US
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Speaker 3: Attorney R. E. Thompson and the US Senator Harris Schmidt
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Speaker 3: held a public meeting and about cattle mutilations. This was
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Speaker 3: in Arizona. The meeting was attended by around eighty people.
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Speaker 3: One of the attendees was Paul Benowitz. Now some say
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Speaker 3: that this meeting about cattle mutilations, this was where the
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Speaker 3: targeting began by the government agents, where it first happened,
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Speaker 3: because at this meeting, Paul Benowitz was introduced to a
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Speaker 3: highway patrol officer, Gabe Valdez, who was investigating the incidents.
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Speaker 3: Which is important to understand and remember gave Valdez because
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Speaker 3: he becomes really important later on in the story. So
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Speaker 3: Benowitz later listed July nineteen seventy nine as the beginning
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Speaker 3: of a personally funded study into UFOs because Benowitz reportedly
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Speaker 3: began filming strange lights outside of his house and recording
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Speaker 3: unusual radio signals over Kirkland Air Force Base. Because he
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Speaker 3: lived right by Kirkland Air Force Base. Benwitz would go
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Speaker 3: into his backyard, his backpatio, and Kirkland Air Force Base
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Speaker 3: was only half a mile away. He'd see these strange lights,
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Speaker 3: mainly supposedly two bright lights slowly lift up off of
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Speaker 3: the ground and then zip around the mountain. So common
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Speaker 3: sense tells you that if you're filming strange stuff over
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Speaker 3: a military base, that it would be what.
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Speaker 2: Military?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So like Jeremy Corbell and taking all these
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Speaker 3: pictures over flares over a military base and calling them
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Speaker 3: UFOs and then they're proven to b flares. He's changing
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Speaker 3: the aperture of the camera to make it look like
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Speaker 3: a triangle craft and all this stuff. If you're taking
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Speaker 3: photos and videos over a military base, common sense, a
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Speaker 3: critical thinking tells you that it's the military. So Paul,
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Speaker 3: being a radio expert, very well versed in radio technology
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Speaker 3: because he had worked in the military as a radio expert,
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Speaker 3: He decided to try and listen into the communications of
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Speaker 3: Kirkland Air Force Base to try and figure out what
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Speaker 3: these strange lights were and what he was seeing was.
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Speaker 3: So he decoded a bunch of transmissions and put together
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Speaker 3: that it was about technology and that the technology wasn't
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Speaker 3: from here. So he began his journey into the extra
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Speaker 3: treastural realm. So, in October of nineteen eighty, been a
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Speaker 3: Witz contacted Kirkland Air Force Base to report his findings.
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Speaker 3: Like any good samaritan would if you're seeing these strange
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Speaker 3: lights moving in really weird speeds in the sky and
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Speaker 3: you were filming him and you were already a part
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Speaker 3: of the military before, you would contact the military and
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Speaker 3: be like, hey, what's going on here. So in November
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Speaker 3: of nineteen eighty ben a Witz briefed people at Kirkland
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Speaker 3: Air Force Base on his findings. The military personnel possibly
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Speaker 3: thought that maybe this was a Soviet threat or another
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Speaker 3: country or someone planning to invade the base, so to
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Speaker 3: figure out more about what Paul Benowitz had recorded and
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Speaker 3: to verify his claims to make sure it wasn't a
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Speaker 3: threat per se, they put him in contact with a
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Speaker 3: man named Richard Doty Afosi Air Force Officers Special Investigations
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Speaker 3: Richard Dody. Paul not really knowing what he had because
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Speaker 3: he didn't analyze the footage property properly, he didn't analyze
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Speaker 3: the decoded message the messages properly. They sent out Richard
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Speaker 3: Doty to figure out what was going on. So they
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Speaker 3: sent him to his house, and pretty quickly after going
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Speaker 3: to his house to speak with him, Richard Dody found
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Speaker 3: out that he essentially had top secret radio transmissions from
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Speaker 3: the Air Force base that didn't have anything to do
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Speaker 3: with Extra Tresh troops. But Richard Dody came in and
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Speaker 3: convinced him that it was Extra Tresh troops and it
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Speaker 3: had to do with axeteral craft right now, not out
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Speaker 3: right telling him for a fact that it was extraterrestrials,
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Speaker 3: but planning that seed right that maybe that what he
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Speaker 3: has is the information from extraterrestrials and that the radio
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Speaker 3: transmissions could possibly come from extraterrestrials and UFOs. And with
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Speaker 3: Paul Benowitz being a World War Two vet, it was
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Speaker 3: very easy to convince him to keep quiet about this thing. Like,
22:20
Speaker 3: you know, be quiet, Paul, you owe to the country
22:22
Speaker 3: to not say anything about this and not say it
22:24
Speaker 3: to anyone. Keep all your information and all your video
22:27
Speaker 3: stuff to yourself and will help you investigate these UFOs
22:31
Speaker 3: that you're seeing from.
22:31
Speaker 4: The back porch over Kirkland Air Force Base.
22:34
Speaker 3: Right. But it wasn't just Dotie that was doing this.
22:38
Speaker 3: All of the generals during Paul Benowitz's briefing at the
22:41
Speaker 3: Air Force was in on it.
22:43
Speaker 4: Okay.
22:44
Speaker 3: After Paul showed the footage of what he had captured,
22:47
Speaker 3: the strange craft, which was top secret experimental military drones,
22:54
Speaker 3: the generals stood up and said, you have some pretty
22:57
Speaker 3: convincing evidence there, Paul, and asked him what would you
23:00
Speaker 3: like the Air Force to do about it? And Paul
23:03
Speaker 3: wanted a grant to continue to study UFOs on the
23:06
Speaker 3: base and a grant to continue his contact with aliens
23:10
Speaker 3: that he claimed that he had. Now, this is where
23:12
Speaker 3: it gets really strange, because the Air Force wasn't aware
23:18
Speaker 3: that Paul believed that he was in contact with aliens. Okay,
23:24
Speaker 3: we've established at the Air Forces is you know special
23:27
Speaker 3: investigators like Richard Dodian. Really all of the Air Force
23:30
Speaker 3: personnel were involved in them in this briefing were pushed
23:33
Speaker 3: Paul Benowitz in this direction of extraterrestrials and UFOs when
23:37
Speaker 3: really what he was getting footage of his top.
23:39
Speaker 4: Secret experimental aircraft.
23:41
Speaker 3: And in order to get him off of the scent
23:43
Speaker 3: of top secret military aircraft, they made him believe that
23:49
Speaker 3: it was extraterrestrials. But another agency was involved. It wasn't
23:53
Speaker 3: just the Air Force. What it happened was that Paul
23:57
Speaker 3: Benowitz was picking up these signals from Kirkland air Space,
24:00
Speaker 3: but he didn't really know that that was the case.
24:03
Speaker 3: He thought that he was picking up extraterrestrial communications. Okay,
24:09
Speaker 3: so it turns out that the NSA was posted up
24:11
Speaker 3: across the street and in a van and would directly
24:18
Speaker 3: beam radio signals into Paul Benowitz's antenna on top of
24:24
Speaker 3: his house to make Paul believe.
24:25
Speaker 2: It, of course, yeah, that.
24:29
Speaker 3: He was in communication with extraterrestrials. And it even went
24:32
Speaker 3: further than that. The NSA broke into Paul Benowitz's house
24:37
Speaker 3: and replaced his computer with an NSA modified computer. The
24:40
Speaker 3: computer had software installed on it to decode the messages
24:44
Speaker 3: that were being sent in a way that they wanted
24:46
Speaker 3: Paul to see them. Okay, so in these messages that
24:52
Speaker 3: Paul thought that he was receiving from extraterrestrials, which was
24:55
Speaker 3: really the NSSA. This is where a lot of the
25:00
Speaker 3: UFO and alien mythology come from. It comes from this
25:04
Speaker 3: interaction between Paul Benowitz and the NSA, which he thinks
25:08
Speaker 3: is actual extraterrestrial communications.
25:11
Speaker 4: Okay, like.
25:16
Speaker 3: They're coming here for our resources, that they want to
25:18
Speaker 3: take over the world, they want to mix their DNA
25:21
Speaker 3: with our DNA, and that they're from the future.
25:25
Speaker 2: Like all they eat our goal and all those.
25:29
Speaker 3: And it gets even worse, okase, because in May of
25:32
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty, state police in New Mexico received a report
25:37
Speaker 3: about a woman calling herself Myrna Hansen describing a story
25:41
Speaker 3: involving extra treshal aliens, bright lights, abductions, cattle mutilations, cattle
25:46
Speaker 3: being abducted. Police then referred to their colleague, which was
25:55
Speaker 3: Gabe Valdez, who they knew to be the cattle mutilations
25:59
Speaker 3: guy from the meeting earlier that Paul was in because
26:03
Speaker 3: they knew that Valdez was interested in this stuff, and
26:05
Speaker 3: then Valdez in turn contacted Paul Benowitz. So May seventh,
26:12
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty Myrna Hansen and her son traveled to Albuquerque
26:16
Speaker 3: to meet with Benowitz, staying at his home. Hanson explained
26:21
Speaker 3: to Benowitz that on May fifth, nineteen eighty, while she
26:23
Speaker 3: was driving with her son near a place called Eagle Nest,
26:28
Speaker 3: New Mexico, they had witnessed two large silent objects approximately
26:32
Speaker 3: the size of a good Year blimp hovering over the meadow. Okay,
26:37
Speaker 3: so this is just exactly like if you're filming stuff
26:41
Speaker 3: over at military base, if you see something that looks
26:43
Speaker 3: like a blimp, then it's probably a blimp.
26:47
Speaker 4: Okay.
26:47
Speaker 3: So Benno Wits gets in contact with this guy named
26:53
Speaker 3: Leo Sprinkle and which was a hypnotherapist that came down
27:01
Speaker 3: to regress Myrna Henson to unlock her memories of what
27:06
Speaker 3: had happened. She had been abducted. And he was a
27:10
Speaker 3: psychologist and a professor from Wyoming that had also been
27:15
Speaker 3: investigating UFO. Contact e Reports and ben in Witz arrange
27:19
Speaker 3: for him to come and fly to Albuquerque to hypnotize Henson. Okay,
27:24
Speaker 3: so whenever Leo got there, Henson and Benowitz insisted that
27:32
Speaker 3: the regression sessions be conducted in Benowitz's Lincoln Town car
27:37
Speaker 3: parked inside of his garage with the car windows covered
27:42
Speaker 3: with thick aluminum foil. Okay, Paul's literally out of his
27:46
Speaker 3: mind because of the psychological warfare that the NESSAY and
27:50
Speaker 3: the Air Force OSI has been putting him through. Okay
27:53
Speaker 3: at this point, which I don't blame him.
27:55
Speaker 4: Okay.
27:55
Speaker 3: You got the NSSA right across the street from your
27:58
Speaker 3: house stalking you, beaming signals into your house. They've broke
28:02
Speaker 3: into your home. They replaced your computer with an NSA
28:04
Speaker 3: modified computer to make you believe that you're in contact
28:07
Speaker 3: with aliens. But he doesn't know any of that. He
28:09
Speaker 3: thinks all this stuff is real. You would be superior.
28:14
Speaker 3: You got the Air Force telling him that you're right
28:15
Speaker 3: about the aliens, but you can't tell anybody.
28:19
Speaker 4: Okay.
28:19
Speaker 3: So Sprinkle decided to regress this woman in the tin
28:26
Speaker 3: foiled outcr in ben and Witz's garage, and during her
28:28
Speaker 3: first regression, she reported a recollection of a cow being
28:31
Speaker 3: sucked up in a laser beam and spaceships and tractor
28:35
Speaker 3: beams and everything sucking the cow up into a UFO. Then,
28:39
Speaker 3: in May of nineteen eighty, under hypnosis, Hinson reported recollections
28:43
Speaker 3: of an abduction her being abducted, taken to an underground
28:46
Speaker 3: base with body parts floating in vats. Okay, this is
28:50
Speaker 3: building the basis of this secret base in New Mexico, Okay,
28:57
Speaker 3: the de Loose Base or the Dulce Base, which every
29:02
Speaker 3: one you want to call that. People get super picky
29:04
Speaker 3: about their terminology. But that later turned into Paul phil
29:12
Speaker 3: Schneider's story, okay, which is the perfect setup here for Bill.
29:18
Speaker 4: Moore's book of Roswell called the.
29:19
Speaker 3: Roswell Incident just a few years later in October nineteen eighty,
29:23
Speaker 3: which was all missing disinformation about an alien craft crashing
29:27
Speaker 3: in Roswell, which was the popular as myth and lord
29:29
Speaker 3: that brought it to the forefront of ufology. Nobody talked
29:32
Speaker 3: about Roswell until his book. Bill Moore's book came out
29:38
Speaker 3: called the Roswell Incident in nineteen eighty. Before this, it
29:43
Speaker 3: was not even a thing, okay. And Bill Moore was
29:49
Speaker 3: involved with Paul Benowitz. He would go to Paul Bennowitz's house.
29:52
Speaker 3: He was also involved with Richard Doughty in the Air
29:54
Speaker 3: Force OSI and eventually Bill Moore I did a whole
29:58
Speaker 3: series about this on my show called the Legends of Ufology.
30:04
Speaker 3: And Bill Moore got up in front of a UFO
30:06
Speaker 3: conference in nineteen eighty nine, I believe it was, and
30:10
Speaker 3: said that everything was made up, that the book was
30:14
Speaker 3: made up, that this was all public missing disinformation, and
30:17
Speaker 3: they literally boot him off of the stage. Okay, so wow.
30:22
Speaker 3: But back to Myrna Henson and this Paul Benwitz set up,
30:25
Speaker 3: because this is exactly what it was. It was a
30:27
Speaker 3: setup with this lady Myrna Henson and to get the
30:30
Speaker 3: lore in the mythology rolling because they knew Paul Bennowitz
30:35
Speaker 3: would tell everyone and this would snowball into a bunch
30:38
Speaker 3: of nonsense. Okay, So Henson, along with claiming to see
30:41
Speaker 3: these large blimp like crafts, she also recalled having been
30:45
Speaker 3: given an implant by the aliens during her aggression with Sprinkle,
30:52
Speaker 3: and that starts all this alien implant lore.
30:55
Speaker 4: Okay.
30:56
Speaker 3: Sprinkle returned to visit Benowitz to perform another regression with
30:59
Speaker 3: him and so to figure out more made up nonsense garbage.
31:04
Speaker 3: He found that Benowitz was in his house armed with
31:09
Speaker 3: a pistol and a gun and a rifle, saying that
31:12
Speaker 3: he was concerned that he was vulnerable to being attacked
31:16
Speaker 3: by aliens. These people these people were literally driving Paul
31:22
Speaker 3: Benowitz out of his mind, you know, to the point
31:25
Speaker 3: of where he was thinking that he was going to
31:26
Speaker 3: be attacked by alien laser beams. And Paul Benwitz, thinking
31:30
Speaker 3: that Sprinkle was an alien or whatever it was that
31:35
Speaker 3: he thought, told him to leave, and then he contacted
31:38
Speaker 3: another hypnotherapist by the name is James Harder. James Harder
31:42
Speaker 3: was also conducted hypnotic regressions of the famous abductee Travis
31:49
Speaker 3: Walton in nineteenth five. But Benowitz and James Harder came
31:55
Speaker 3: to the conclusion that Henson was under the influence of
31:58
Speaker 3: alien beams and wrote detailed instructions on how to use
32:03
Speaker 3: aluminum foil to shield a room from the beams before
32:06
Speaker 3: conducting a regression. This is literally where a lot of
32:08
Speaker 3: the tinfoil hat.
32:09
Speaker 4: Stuff comes from.
32:10
Speaker 3: And no one really has any idea that it came
32:13
Speaker 3: from the government and disinformation surrounding Paul Benowitz, but a
32:16
Speaker 3: lot of people also say that it came from this
32:20
Speaker 3: gentleman that got a tooth implant, that believed that he
32:24
Speaker 3: was hearing voices in his head. It was one of
32:27
Speaker 3: the founding members of the Kodak Camera trying to get
32:32
Speaker 3: him out of the contract with Kodak, and they hired
32:37
Speaker 3: these two doctors to implant this microchip in his tooth.
32:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he went for a dental visit, I believe right.
32:44
Speaker 3: Yes, they ended up in a mental institution and started
32:49
Speaker 3: wrapping his head in tinfoil because he said that prevented
32:52
Speaker 3: the voices in his head. Okay, So Paul Benowitz was
32:57
Speaker 3: convinced that he was seen extraterrestrials and then when it
33:02
Speaker 3: was really advanced military craft, and that he was in
33:05
Speaker 3: communication with extraterrestrials through his computer when it was really
33:09
Speaker 3: the Nssay. Gabriel Valdez's son later commented on the Myrna
33:14
Speaker 3: Henson story and said, it's a possibility that Myrna Henson
33:18
Speaker 3: was also a part of the disinformation campaign. Ye think, yeah,
33:22
Speaker 3: I think that she was. She definitely was. I will
33:25
Speaker 3: go out on a limb here and say that the
33:26
Speaker 3: story of Myrna Henson was most likely a well orchestrated
33:32
Speaker 3: hoax because it's a very important fact. The listening devices
33:38
Speaker 3: were found in Paul Bennowitz's house. The government heard all
33:41
Speaker 3: of the conversations on the phone that Paul Benowitz was
33:46
Speaker 3: having anything that he was talking about in his house,
33:50
Speaker 3: so it would be very easy to do. Myrna Henson
33:52
Speaker 3: came into the picture of in nineteen eighty and it's
33:57
Speaker 3: hard to really figure out anything about this Myrna Henson
33:59
Speaker 3: lady because Myrna Hinson is also the name of a
34:03
Speaker 3: famous actress and model who won Miss USA in nineteen
34:08
Speaker 3: ninety three. But I'm willing to bet money that she
34:11
Speaker 3: was sent by the intelligence community directly to Paul Benowitz.
34:15
Speaker 3: And it's a perfect cover too, because I can't find
34:17
Speaker 3: out anything about who she is. They just created a
34:21
Speaker 3: new name for her and made it a name that
34:24
Speaker 3: was this popular Usa, Miss USA that won in nineteen
34:28
Speaker 3: fifty three. But now you get into the full swing
34:31
Speaker 3: of the Dulce base and all of the mythology and
34:37
Speaker 3: all the rumors and the theories and the speculation of
34:40
Speaker 3: that base started because of the information that was given
34:43
Speaker 3: to Paul Benowitz by the Government Missing Disinformation Air Force
34:47
Speaker 3: Special Agents the NSA Myrna Henson. In December of nineteen
34:51
Speaker 3: eighty one, Paul Benowitz wrote a letter to a US
34:55
Speaker 3: senator explaining that he knew the location of the alien
35:00
Speaker 3: bases in northern New Mexico, and that someone in the
35:05
Speaker 3: military made a deal with the aliens several years ago,
35:10
Speaker 3: giving the alien cattle and the apparent assurance of safety
35:18
Speaker 3: to the aliens in trade for technology in some form
35:24
Speaker 3: of atomic powered ship. Alien base would later then be
35:28
Speaker 3: regurgitated by conspiracies and ideas by John Lear, Bill Cooper,
35:34
Speaker 3: and like I was mentioning earlier, the Phil Schneider case
35:38
Speaker 3: where he claimed that he was working on this base
35:40
Speaker 3: and he got his hand blown off by an alien laser. Okay,
35:45
Speaker 3: all of these stories came from Paul Benowitz. All these
35:52
Speaker 3: modern stories of aliens an alien bases, all which is
35:58
Speaker 3: missing disinformation directly from then essay in the Air Force.
36:02
Speaker 3: And this lady Myrna Henson. That letter that he sent
36:04
Speaker 3: to that Congressman was all of the information that he
36:10
Speaker 3: had gotten through the regression of Myrna Henson, which was
36:16
Speaker 3: this fake CIA setup or an essay setup or someone
36:21
Speaker 3: in the intelligence community. It was a setup, and that's
36:24
Speaker 3: where all these stories come from. That's what Bill Cooper
36:27
Speaker 3: always talked about, like we were mentioning in the eighties,
36:31
Speaker 3: was this contract with the US government and extraterrestrials for
36:34
Speaker 3: technology exchange and He added that it was you know,
36:39
Speaker 3: as an Hour that sealed the deal, but he just
36:43
Speaker 3: changed it and modified it just a little bit. So
36:46
Speaker 3: by nineteen eighty two, Benewitz began contacting UFO, all of
36:51
Speaker 3: the UFO researchers, Linda Moulton, Howe, John Lear, US Senator
36:55
Speaker 3: Harris and was spreading all of his ideas regarding this
36:59
Speaker 3: alien base in New Mexico and the ufology community and boom,
37:06
Speaker 3: UFO mythology has taken its route, and it came directly
37:12
Speaker 3: from the NSA in the Air Force, and what I
37:16
Speaker 3: believe was the intelligence agent Berna Henson in Air Force
37:20
Speaker 3: agents right it was born was born then, and Paul
37:24
Speaker 3: Benwooch suffered several psychiatric hospitalizations after nineteen eighty due to
37:31
Speaker 3: the Air Force and the essay deceptions, and he passed
37:35
Speaker 3: away June three, two thousand and three, in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
37:39
Speaker 3: All of that that I covered because I like to
37:41
Speaker 3: give credit to people. All of that that I just
37:45
Speaker 3: covered was all info that was detailed in the book
37:49
Speaker 3: Clear Intent, the government cover up of the UFO experience,
37:54
Speaker 3: and also a book by Mark Pillington which was called
38:03
Speaker 3: Project Beta. In the story of Paul Binowitz in the
38:05
Speaker 3: National Security and Creation of the Modern UFO myth which
38:10
Speaker 3: then that book was turned into a documentary a seven
38:16
Speaker 3: year eight years later in twenty thirteen called Mirage Men.
38:20
Speaker 3: It's for the basis of all of the information that
38:24
Speaker 3: I just shared on Paul Binnowitz came from.
38:27
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Travis Walton, and I'm glad you brought
38:30
Speaker 1: that name up. Where does his story fit in on
38:33
Speaker 1: all this?
38:35
Speaker 3: I believe that the abduction phenomenon is the military, and
38:43
Speaker 3: I believe that it has been the military from the
38:45
Speaker 3: very beginning and taking them to a underground base or
38:50
Speaker 3: some sort of bass and making them believe that it's extraterrestrials.
38:56
Speaker 3: I mean, there's evidence of that in a book that
38:58
Speaker 3: was written in nineteen eighty five that talked about how
39:03
Speaker 3: the government would get kids dressed up in gray alien
39:07
Speaker 3: costumes and abduct people in the middle of the night
39:12
Speaker 3: and take them to some hangar and they would hit
39:15
Speaker 3: him with what was called a stun gun that was
39:18
Speaker 3: like a memory suppressant. They would abduct them, the would
39:23
Speaker 3: hit him with the stun gun suppress their memories, and
39:26
Speaker 3: then years later the memories would come to the forefront
39:29
Speaker 3: of their mind, and then they would be like, oh
39:30
Speaker 3: my god, that's so weird. What actually did happen to me?
39:34
Speaker 3: I got this weird missing time. It's just to reinforce
39:39
Speaker 3: the alien narrative.
39:44
Speaker 2: To make kind.
39:45
Speaker 3: But it's aliens, right, because you can't do anything about aliens.
39:49
Speaker 3: Aliens or the boogeyman in the sky, the UFOs. The
39:52
Speaker 3: technology is so far passed and so much more crazy
39:55
Speaker 3: than any of us can ever imagine. There's nothing that
39:58
Speaker 3: we can do about any of that shit. But if
40:02
Speaker 3: it's the military, bro, that's a different story. We can
40:06
Speaker 3: do something about the military. Yep. It's the perfect cover.
40:11
Speaker 4: It's the perfect cover up.
40:13
Speaker 3: I believe, all of its military technology, and they've been
40:17
Speaker 3: using the alien narrative as cover up for it. See,
40:23
Speaker 3: there's a lot of double speak and word magic going
40:25
Speaker 3: on with a lot of the terminology that's been tossed around.
40:29
Speaker 3: You know, crash retrieval. Crash retrieval doesn't mean what you think.
40:33
Speaker 3: Crash retrieval means. Crash retrieval can mean an archaeological dick,
40:40
Speaker 3: some sort of ancient technology, okay, Because it doesn't matter
40:44
Speaker 3: how long ago or when you find some sort of
40:48
Speaker 3: advanced technology. They still disguise it as a crash retrieval.
40:54
Speaker 3: No matter if it happened five hundred years ago, a
40:57
Speaker 3: thousand years ago, two thousand years ago, it's still a crash.
41:04
Speaker 3: And also the point aliens, we all we have, we
41:09
Speaker 3: had the alien invasion already happened, and it happened at
41:12
Speaker 3: the border. That's what that was. And extraterrestrial just means
41:18
Speaker 3: extra land, people from other land. Right, if we were
41:22
Speaker 3: to pick up and go to any other country besides
41:24
Speaker 3: the United States from where we were born, we would
41:26
Speaker 3: be considered aliens in that country. Yeah, so another person
41:32
Speaker 3: coming from another country to our country, they're an alien.
41:37
Speaker 3: Then we got a league aliens that is here illegally
41:42
Speaker 3: and Trump comes in closes the border, stops and defeats
41:46
Speaker 3: the aliens.
41:49
Speaker 4: Bro.
41:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what it is. That's it's word magic.
41:57
Speaker 3: They play these word magic games all the time, and
42:02
Speaker 3: you have to be able to decode exactly what it
42:06
Speaker 3: is that they're seeing because there's double meanings, things that
42:12
Speaker 3: the public thinks means one thing, but it really means
42:16
Speaker 3: something completely different. And that's been happening for Secret society.
42:23
Speaker 3: Word magic. It's going to be exactly like the Epstein files,
42:26
Speaker 3: where we'll probably get some kind of word search type
42:29
Speaker 3: of releasing of the documents where you got to have
42:33
Speaker 3: the keyword to type it in. You got to know
42:36
Speaker 3: what it is that you're looking for or in order
42:38
Speaker 3: to search it up. It'll probably be heavily redacted. There's
42:44
Speaker 3: not going to be any more information. It's just going
42:46
Speaker 3: to be like another Project Blue Book type of thing.
42:49
Speaker 3: I mean, what's his name, the head of arrow blinking
42:54
Speaker 3: on his name right now. But they did that in
42:56
Speaker 3: that giant UFO report. I don't know if I don't
42:58
Speaker 3: know if you saw it. It was least like a
43:02
Speaker 3: year ago where they said that none of this stuff
43:05
Speaker 3: is real, that they investigated everything to do with UFOs
43:09
Speaker 3: and everything to do with aliens, and it's a miss
43:12
Speaker 3: misidentification of real technology. It's military drones and everything is
43:18
Speaker 3: being done by circular reporting by people that believe it
43:22
Speaker 3: and is propagating the mythology of UFOs when there's not
43:26
Speaker 3: any truth to any of it.
43:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those drone sightings and stuff off the Jersey drones.
43:33
Speaker 3: Then we had the Chinese spy balloons before that that
43:36
Speaker 3: were supposedly shot down.
43:39
Speaker 4: You know, there's.
43:42
Speaker 3: It's military drones, it's military technology, it's AI. I'm sure
43:47
Speaker 3: a lot of them is AI. By now, I mean,
43:50
Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard RFK on theo VON recently,
43:55
Speaker 3: he said that seventy the seventy five percent of people
44:02
Speaker 3: that are eligible to go into the military cannot go
44:05
Speaker 3: into the military.
44:08
Speaker 2: Because they're not standards eligible.
44:11
Speaker 4: Exactly.
44:12
Speaker 3: They got all of these problems, they got all these issues,
44:15
Speaker 3: mental health issues, obesity, medications that are preventing them from
44:20
Speaker 3: joining the military. So when seventy to seventy seven percent
44:25
Speaker 3: of the US population that is eligible to be in
44:28
Speaker 3: the military cannot join the military, who is the military for?
44:35
Speaker 3: That means that they're not expecting a lot of people
44:38
Speaker 3: to join the military. So in ten to twenty years,
44:42
Speaker 3: the military personnel and it's been rapidly declining. It's been
44:45
Speaker 3: down thirty eight percent and since the year of two
44:48
Speaker 3: thousand military recruitment. Okay, so that means that we're going
44:54
Speaker 3: to get more drones, aifacial recognition drones, more AI.
45:02
Speaker 4: More cyber stuff, more.
45:06
Speaker 3: Private corporations, more government contractors, and they're going to slowly
45:11
Speaker 3: phase out the human component of the military.
45:17
Speaker 4: Just like that.
45:17
Speaker 3: They are going to slowly phase out the human component
45:21
Speaker 3: in jobs and working and going to the grocery store.
45:26
Speaker 3: I mean, when you go to the grocery store, how
45:28
Speaker 3: many leans, how many checkout lians with people that can
45:33
Speaker 3: actually check you out are open? One or two?
45:38
Speaker 2: Yeah? One or two? Yeah, exactly.
45:42
Speaker 3: Okay. So eventually it's going to get to the point
45:44
Speaker 3: where all of this stuff. I mean Elon Musk saying
45:48
Speaker 3: just last year, if you don't get rich, you don't
45:50
Speaker 3: make all your money in the next four years, then
45:53
Speaker 3: it's not going.
45:54
Speaker 4: To matter anymore.
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Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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Speaker 3: So what does that mean? That means that jobs, the military,
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Speaker 3: are way of life is going to be taken over
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Speaker 3: by AI. And what does that mean? That means more surveillance.
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Speaker 3: That means possibly one digital ID. Everything is going to
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Speaker 3: be digitized. And we've seen that push since the invention
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Speaker 3: of computers is to digitize everything. Make everything on your phone,
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Speaker 3: read on your phone, watch movies on your phone, watch
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Speaker 3: TV shows on your phone.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the biggest tracking device that has
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Speaker 3: ever existed. They no longer have to take their phones anymore.
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Speaker 3: They got a device right in front of your face
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Speaker 3: that is tracking you everywhere.
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Speaker 4: You go.
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Speaker 3: I mean there's a freaking biometric scan on here. That said,
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Speaker 3: there's a health app. They got a freaking health app
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Speaker 3: on there.
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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's crazy to get to detect your heart
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Speaker 1: right eight and all that and everything, and then also
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Speaker 1: facial recognition to open your phone. Also thumb print scans
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Speaker 1: to open your phone sometimes depending I got set up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got on and the.
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Speaker 3: Shit can read your mind, dude. That was the whole
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Speaker 3: thing with the Pokemon Go app, the Nitanic that was
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Speaker 3: to literally track and trace and scan the entire world
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Speaker 3: for AI.
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Speaker 2: Mmm.
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Speaker 3: We've been in the digital currency. It's been a thing.
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Speaker 3: Money has been in the bank and has been a
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Speaker 3: digital number for two decades now, well since banks have
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Speaker 3: been a thing, and you since you've had a debit card,
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Speaker 3: it's been a digital currency. It's always been yeah currency.
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Speaker 3: And then when you put your money in there, then
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Speaker 3: allowed to borrow eight dollars on every dollar that you've
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Speaker 3: put into the bank. So they're just printing money out
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Speaker 3: of nothing. It's just money out of nothing that they
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Speaker 3: can issue about eight dollars of debt for every single
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Speaker 3: dollar that you have in the bank.
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