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Episode 102 Board Games review 2025 · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 1: Down't here.
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  Speaker 2: There's no noise, just focus, precision, patience. Every image starts
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  Speaker 2: in the dark, and for a fraction of a second,
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  Speaker 2: a soul gets exposed.
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  Speaker 3: Some chase the shot, others live inside it. Both expose
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  Speaker 3: the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Rage, dick fella?
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  Speaker 1: What's the Women's y Championship?
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  Speaker 3: Resolves?
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  Speaker 5: Get Roman, rage, trust, CF and vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: Revenge.
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  Speaker 6: If you want your rematch for the Intercontinental Championship, no problem.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight two teams step into pray.
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  Speaker 6: These two teams will be locked inside the wargames.
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  Speaker 3: Games, each fighter to define the same image. The face
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  Speaker 3: of a champion.
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  Speaker 5: Scorns will be settled up by his will be cooking.
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  Speaker 1: This is Survivor series Wargames. I blame this battle. There
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  Speaker 1: are found three casualties. It is time to go to.
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  Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Least Requested, Leaf, Demanded
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  Speaker 7: and the Leaf Downloaded. Wrestling Podcast bc W. This could
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  Speaker 7: be a long podcast, so strappin and shut up and
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  Speaker 7: don't be a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 5: The question is, oh, you.
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  Speaker 8: Woman talk, I will give you a show like you
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  Speaker 8: have never ever seen before a life because I can't.
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  Speaker 9: What do you guys want to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: From the colored red in the world with a black
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  Speaker 1: and white e a world.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, tek you other l there's nothing see the change?
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  Speaker 1: What's that bigger man?
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  Speaker 5: You got a bigger man?
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  Speaker 1: And I said, whoa why it.
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  Speaker 8: Never got.
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  Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Chairman Voll just welcome
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  Speaker 4: back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I
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  Speaker 4: am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
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  Speaker 4: and we are going to review board games. Board games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it kind of felt like board games not so much.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what, Before I get into the review
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  Speaker 4: and we break this down, we discuss how this was
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: not the best pay per view of the year. Let
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  Speaker 4: me bring in my co host.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, like it's on me. Now get them all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them all.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Oose yo yo? What it do?
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  Speaker 10: Pc W crew main eventre Uso is back on your podcast.
• 5:39
  Speaker 10: And if you see me out here in the streets
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  Speaker 10: with chicken legs, y'all can blame these guys for making
• 5:43
  Speaker 10: me cut my leg.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: They short to be here.
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: This guy, he he had to to postpone the show
• 5:48
  Speaker 4: because he had to he had to hit the gym.
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: You had to get jacked because you know, what's important
• 5:54
  Speaker 4: for a podcast, dre is being the best shape of
• 5:58
  Speaker 4: your life, being super fit for the podcast.
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  Speaker 10: Hoochie Daddy. Bodies are built in the winter, not the summer.
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  Speaker 10: I'm trying to get chose by somebody, Grandmama next summer.
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  Speaker 4: All right, wonderful, All right, let's let's bring him in here.
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  Speaker 4: The man in my head, the account for me.
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  Speaker 5: They understand. Thanks for me, you got cho.
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  Speaker 11: Hit.
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  Speaker 4: You all designed to keep us. Tyler, welcome back to
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  Speaker 4: the show. Thanks for pinching yourself in here.
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  Speaker 12: Oh thank you for having me. I'm always always glad
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  Speaker 12: to be here.
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  Speaker 13: And I'm still kind of rolling a little bit from
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  Speaker 13: Drey's info intro. I'm sorry about that.
• 7:01
  Speaker 4: Were you yating all over the place?
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  Speaker 12: Oh my god?
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  Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know about yeating all over the place,
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  Speaker 13: but pretty hard.
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you need to, we can pause the show.
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: You can grab a towel and clean up after you've
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: been eating all over the place. I mean, I get it.
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  Speaker 13: We're good.
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: No, no Doyle today. You know, I'm starting to think, guys,
• 7:25
  Speaker 4: I'm starting to think that maybe Doyle is doing like
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: another wrestling podcast, Like that's why he's dude, like I
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm saying this with quotes, you know, because
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  Speaker 4: he's busy. Yeah, okay, Doyle, You're busy. Okay. I think
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: he's doing another podcast, and I don't think it's like,
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't think it's revisiting the mania, you know,
• 7:55
  Speaker 4: props to them in Carlos. I don't think he's on
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  Speaker 4: that podcast. He's just on another podcast spitting facts about wrestling,
• 8:04
  Speaker 4: you know, I know it. I feel like.
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  Speaker 13: Or did he did he pull a triple h during
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  Speaker 13: the first run of d X and decided to go
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  Speaker 13: solo to do something, you know, different, on his own.
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  Speaker 4: Not Doyle, not Toyle Mabe has his own podcast and
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  Speaker 4: I just don't know it. Hey, man, you don't know
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  Speaker 4: he could. He could. He could have like a podcast
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  Speaker 4: where he talks about drawing, you know, doodling with Doyle,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 13: Doyle's doodles.
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  Speaker 4: Uh ship, Trey. Are you eating anything right now because
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: normally you're always.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Eating eating anything?
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Are you eating because you're always eating during the show.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, tonight is just a just a roasted chicken
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  Speaker 10: sandwich and a overpriced uh proteins the little Core Power Giants.
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  Speaker 10: You'd be seeing at the corner store.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, little protein drinks.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, didn't I realize this Elite one with forty two
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  Speaker 10: brands was six damn dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy when you pay for a.
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  Speaker 1: Drink obnoxiously overpriced.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're paying for a drink that's over six
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  Speaker 4: or seven dollars and there's no alcohol in it, it's like,
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: holy shit, you better make me feel like Superman. Then
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  Speaker 4: you know these protein shakes, Holy.
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  Speaker 13: Crap, hell, better have the glasses and everything in it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you guys read a discuss board games.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want to.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: Talk about that, and then I want to talk about
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: the epic, epic Monday Night raw that we didn't get.
• 9:56
  Speaker 13: So that you have me hip and I was, I was,
• 10:01
  Speaker 13: I was like, I was about what did I miss?
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: Do you know what? Triple H had? Everybody else fucking
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: hyped up too. I'm raining all these reports. Oh, Monday
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: Night Rule is gonna be epic. I'm like, okay, all right,
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: I man, here's the thing is you got me, Triple H.
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: Because Yeah, the past couple of weeks, you've had some
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: good fucking ralls, Right, We've had brock Lesner come back
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: we've had Roman Reigns come back, We've had a j
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  Speaker 4: Lee return, and I understand it was all getting it
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  Speaker 4: ready for the paper. I get it. But the fact
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: is is, and we've been having this John Cena tournament,
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: which to me has been kind of enjoyable. So the
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: Monday Night rolls the past couple of weeks have been
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: persistently good. And then and then you know, Hunter's like, yeah,
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: we're kicking ass al. He's like, you know what, I'm
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: just gonna I'm just gonna call it right now, four
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  Speaker 4: weeks in a row. We're gonna be epic next week,
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  Speaker 4: right off of the the heels of war games. You know,
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe not so much for me. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna discuss it because there's a bunch of stuff I
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  Speaker 4: want to discuss about raw then and then possibly what
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: we can get on SmackDown. So, Dre, if you want
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  Speaker 4: to kick us off here with with h case go nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sounds so typical LIBA series World Games.
• 11:32
  Speaker 10: This year, it took place from San Diego at a
• 11:36
  Speaker 10: baseball stadium. Yeah, of all places, pet Cove Park, where
• 11:40
  Speaker 10: the Padres play, And I mean monetarily, it had to
• 11:46
  Speaker 10: have worked out for them because and attendance of over
• 11:50
  Speaker 10: forty six thousand people in there versus series, which I
• 11:53
  Speaker 10: think is probably the biggest largest attendance they've ever had
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  Speaker 10: for Survivor series, the biggest gate ever probably for that
• 11:59
  Speaker 10: for the So in that regard, they'll probably chalk it
• 12:04
  Speaker 10: up as being oh, it was a mess of success.
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  Speaker 1: It was great.
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  Speaker 10: We broke records, you know, like they always love to say,
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  Speaker 10: another record breaking Platta get beta, So it's for them, Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: it made money for the viewer. That being us, I'm
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  Speaker 10: sure it was probably a bit lackluster, as you called
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  Speaker 10: it board games, which, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This one.
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  Speaker 10: Before we even get into the individual matches themselves, let's
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  Speaker 10: just talk about how very mid this pl was. I'm
• 12:46
  Speaker 10: not gonna be as hyperbolic as some have been and
• 12:48
  Speaker 10: say that the pl was total trash or just garbage.
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  Speaker 1: I won't go that far. But it was very, very mediocre.
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  Speaker 10: Only four matches for one, which somehow this thing still
• 13:07
  Speaker 10: managed to be what damn near three hours, I think, Yeah,
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  Speaker 10: only four freaking matches, like they filled in them gats
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  Speaker 10: with hella ads or bs. Yeah, I remember at least
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  Speaker 10: like two matches in looking at the time, and it
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  Speaker 10: was eight thirty and I'm like, we're an hour and
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  Speaker 10: a half into this bitch and we've only had two matches.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 10: But Yeah, the general consensus I think from most viewers
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  Speaker 10: coming out of this show is that is a very
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  Speaker 10: mediocre show, very much underdelivered, and most people were not
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  Speaker 10: satisfied with the product they gave us. And I'll include
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  Speaker 10: myself among that. I assume y'all feel generally the same.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it is probably Tyler's probably over there,
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  Speaker 4: like there is a little best pay per view of
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  Speaker 4: the year, right. I got myself a War Games T
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  Speaker 4: shirt and everything.
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  Speaker 1: You were there, Tyler, weren't you?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 12: No, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 13: Wayne had a Wayne had a view party, so I
• 14:24
  Speaker 13: was there watching it with him and uh Drew And
• 14:29
  Speaker 13: it was overall, I will agree.
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  Speaker 9: Not.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, it felt like watching a Monday Night roll
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  Speaker 13: or a back down that was kind of just like
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  Speaker 13: a Coast episode where it is made to.
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  Speaker 12: Carry along storylines. I think it was.
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  Speaker 13: A lot of the good. A lot of the better
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  Speaker 13: matches were at the front end of the pay per view,
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  Speaker 13: as back end like you would typically see for your
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  Speaker 13: your bigger stories. Uh. And it was disappointing, to say
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  Speaker 13: the least. I think, you know, those first two matches
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  Speaker 13: over delivered as far as what my expectation would have
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  Speaker 13: been for those individual matches, and then the ones that
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  Speaker 13: I expected to be the bigger bang were like a
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  Speaker 13: fizzle and a pop, you know, like what you said
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  Speaker 13: to the the gate numbers, like the forty six thousand
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  Speaker 13: attendants and everything like. Yeah, for them, it worked out.
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  Speaker 13: But you know, I would be willing to bet that
• 15:38
  Speaker 13: those that came and spent the money to be there,
• 15:41
  Speaker 13: along with everybody else watching at home, were less than
• 15:45
  Speaker 13: pleased with what they paid to see at the end
• 15:48
  Speaker 13: of the day.
• 15:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd be curious to hear the thoughts and opinions
• 15:56
  Speaker 10: of somebody who was actually in attendance there. I know
• 15:59
  Speaker 10: that we do have some at our discord who was
• 16:01
  Speaker 10: in attendance, and they were They popped in while we
• 16:05
  Speaker 10: were chatting during the actual show itself. He said, the
• 16:08
  Speaker 10: crowd there was pretty hype and throughout the show, but
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  Speaker 10: of course that's in the moment when things are happening
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  Speaker 10: and such. I wonder, if you know, having had a
• 16:22
  Speaker 10: few days to digest it, looking back, if those people
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  Speaker 10: still feel like they enjoyed it or still feel, you know,
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  Speaker 10: like it was a good show.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: They may they may feel that way.
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  Speaker 10: I'll admit I haven't been disappointed in a single live
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  Speaker 10: ww event that I've attended live in person, even if
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: on TV the product may have been, you know, fairly mediocre.
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  Speaker 1: Right, That's just that's just natural.
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  Speaker 10: You know, what comes with the difference of being at
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  Speaker 10: any kind of event live versus viewing it. So, but uh,
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  Speaker 10: let's go ahead and dive into these matches here. So
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  Speaker 10: first match on the card was the women's wargame match
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: Team Ria. I wonder why they called the Team Ria,
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  Speaker 10: but whatever hem Ria With obviously Rea Ripley, Alexa Bliss,
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  Speaker 10: Charlotte Flair, EO Sky, and aj Lee.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Facing Team Oscar. They called the Team Oscar Okay.
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  Speaker 10: Oscar, Kyrie saying the Kabookie Warriors, Naya Jacks, Lash Legend,
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  Speaker 10: and Becky Lynch.
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  Speaker 1: This match went on for just over forty one minutes.
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  Speaker 10: And saw Team Ria pick up the victory when aj
• 17:52
  Speaker 10: Lee put Becky Lynch into what's that official called the
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: Black Widow or something like that and made Becky tap out,
• 18:01
  Speaker 10: something she has viheamly denied on social media since then,
• 18:08
  Speaker 10: and this match for me was just okay, wasn't a
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  Speaker 10: bad match, wasn't a great match. The women have definitely
• 18:19
  Speaker 10: put on better war games in the past. This one
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  Speaker 10: just seemed kind of straightforward, paint by numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Basic.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, we got our typical EO sky trash can spot.
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  Speaker 10: You know, she put a little razzle dazzle on it,
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  Speaker 10: and since doing a flip from the top as opposed
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  Speaker 10: to just Ye eating herself dead weight off the top
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  Speaker 10: and crashing everybody.
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  Speaker 1: But at the.
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  Speaker 10: Same time, you know, when we when it's been done
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: so many times, it kind of loses its luster because
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: now everybody's just like, all right, well we're waiting for
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  Speaker 10: EO to jump off the top with the trash can
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  Speaker 10: up there.
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  Speaker 13: It is.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I will say, what was one thing about that
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  Speaker 10: moment that was kind of cute that made me chuckle
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: a bit was the fact that aj Lee was the
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  Speaker 10: one trying to give her the trash can and she's
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: jumping and struggling. She can't reach EO. So then Rio
• 19:15
  Speaker 10: comes over there. It's like, would you like a hand?
• 19:17
  Speaker 10: And AJ's like, yes, please, and so she gives her
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: a boost on her shoulder to get it up.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 10: I do think that I like that part. That was cute.
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: I think Last Legend had a pretty decent showing in
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  Speaker 10: the match as well, being that she was she was
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: the last one to come out for her team, right, Yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 10: I'm not mistaken.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: She came out.
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, she came out last and pretty much cleaned house
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: in there, which I kind of expected that for her,
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: given that she is more or less the rookie in
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: this match alongside aj Lee, but overall the least experienced
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: one of the ten competitors in this match, so her
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: coming out last still fairly new to the crowd and
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: being on the main roster she used to come out
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  Speaker 10: there rerec shop looks strong, and then she gets taken
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: out with the mysts from Oscar, which takes her out
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  Speaker 10: of the picture, helps protect her, keep her safe, So
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: that was pretty much expected. Other than that, I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: really know if any other noteworthy or memorable moments from
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: the match. I mean, yeah, aj Lee came out and
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: Becky tried to keep her from getting in, and to
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: which aj Lee just climbed over the top of the cage,
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: like the top is open, obviously I can climb in,
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: so you know, decent common sense storytelling of using your
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: brain as opposed to acting like, oh my god, she's
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: blocking the door, however will I get in this cage?
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: Charlotte had a nice outfit that they brought up with
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: that was designed by that young girl that she's befriended
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: with the.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Uh what they say, brain cancer?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, which fortunate that they told that story because admittedly,
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: when she first walked out, I was like, what the
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: fuck is Charlotte wearing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it made all sense once they said it, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: was like, oh okay, and I was like that's awesome though,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: like okay cool, yeah, to like to make her whole
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: gear though for that, I was like, that's pretty damn cool,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: like that she did it for so once.
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: She resigned it, I don't think the girl actually like
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: stitch it or put it together.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean though, like the like
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: the color and whatnot. But yeah, I thought that was
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: cool because it wasn't like, uh, look a part of
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: the outfit. It wasn't like, oh, I'm just gonna do
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: like my boots, you know, it was like the whole thing.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: So I thought that was pretty colo.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: That was actually that was pretty dope. What what thoughts
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: did you have about the mash wing.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: All right, well, let's let's start off by like this
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: this arena. We've done it before in baseball fields where
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: we have we did add the rumble where we had
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the long ramp that does the the l the bend,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: and I know, I kind of liked it because you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: they have that long that long run and it's funny
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: because I guess if you're in the ring, you really
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: can't see but you can hear it though, right, uh
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  Speaker 4: so that was cool seeing the long ramp. We don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: have the shark cages this year, so that was notably different.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: No shark cages, which means that they would come out
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: in a rumble like style, like it was so random
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  Speaker 4: of the order of who was coming out, and I
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: think that, like for me, that really took it away
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: from war games because look of look at last year
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: when we had the cage. The interaction with Punk and
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Rollins and Punk and Roman in the cage, you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: like just the interaction between them, just you know that
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: one time Bunk went up and I've heard who it
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: was who he slapped in the face that was in
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the cage, you know what I mean, Like the inner
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: actions that you could tell stories within the cage, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: we did that last year, you know, with the whole
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: uh you know, Punk trying to go out and Roman
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: putting his arm up. You know, like we got none
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: of that. We got none of that this year because
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: now it's a rumble like style. And I don't know
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: if it's because of where it was, because of the
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: type of the layout, which I would understand why we
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: didn't get the shark cages and why we had to
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: do it this way, but why did we also get
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: the just two rings and a steel cage. We didn't
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: get the the you know, I'm showing somebody who hasn't
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: seen a War Games match before. I was showing them
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: a War Games match with the you know, the top
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: of the cage on it, and I look like an idiot.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Now like I look like a liar. Well like, yeah,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: you're a liar.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: It's like, well, if I showed you a hell and
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: a se and it ended up just being available to
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: bring up, right, I mean, and that changes Dedre. I mean,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: think about with aj Lee climbing up over the top.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't have that if we had the top on
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: the cage. That wouldn't have been a thing. Cody Rose
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: doing his spot on the top wouldn't have been a thing.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why. I don't know if
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: it was a traveling issue or an issue just of
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the arena or is this as far as thing.
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: As far as the top of the cage thing. It's
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: always been opened ever since WWE took it over, the
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: only time that Wargames Original War Games, Yes, as it
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: was originally conceived by Dusty and how it always took
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: place back in WCW the cage was closed off on.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: The top, yes, and it was much shorter like back
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in the day.
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: If you look at some of them old War Games matches,
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: you could literally see somebody getting gorilla pressed into the
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: top of the cage, that's how confined it was. But once, yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: but after that ended, and once WWE decided to bring
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: it back. The entire time it's been in WWE, the
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: cage has been opened at the top because they wanted
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: to have those high flying spots, those you know, big
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: flashy spots that you can only have with an open
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: top cage, whether it's somebody like EO jumping off the top,
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: or you get a stack of people and you get
• 25:24
  Speaker 10: some giant pyramids supplex or stuff like that, or suplexes
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: and slams and all that stuff from the top ropes
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: that if you have a closed off cage, you're limited
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: in terms of your abilities to do that. Just look
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: at the elimination chamber and how hard it is for
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: them to pull off certain spots because of that being
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: a closed off, a.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Roofed off apparatus.
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: Now that's just that's just the WWE thing as far
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: at the top of the cage.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But the Shark cage is thing.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was an interesting choice to not include that
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: this year, and I'm guessing it has partially something to
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: do with the venue and the fact that it was
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: a stadium and you know, they wanted to dedicate most
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: of that floor space to seating right and therefore they
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: opted to go I guess with the l with the
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: long runway out. Maybe they also wanted to do it
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: just for maybe they think that's better presentation.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Because you know who's good.
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: You don't know who's coming out next, and then you
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: can get to, oh, we're gonna play their theme and
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: get the pop of their theme or what have you
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: when they come out, right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: But it's like, and who added four people in the
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: back are coming out. It's not like the rumble Man,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: where it's like thirty people. It's like who out of
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: these four people are coming out?
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: But I mean, I don't know, Yeah, And I think
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: on on a small level, it does kind of work
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: a little bit because I don't think any of us expected,
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: you know, last legend to be the last person to
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: come out on the women's team, on the women's heell
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: on team OSCA. I don't think we expected Ria Ripley
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: to be the second one to come out, or second
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: or third to come out. So as far as they did,
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: to their credit, they did switch up the order a
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: bit from I think what we kind of expected. I'm
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: sure most of us probably would have thought that, you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Becky lynch And was gonna be the last one to
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: come out, But Becky was the second one out right?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Or was Becky first? Team started off?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she she came out with her Kendo sick
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: and we got a little moment between Becky and Charlotte
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and I'm just like, man, I know we've seen the
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: We've seen these two go at it like a million times,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: but like they always level up next time we've seen
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: him go against each other. I was like, I would
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: like to visit Becky's Charlotte just one more time, one
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: more time.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we will at some point.
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: Yes, I mean so by not having a shark cage
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: to at least that's one element that one thing that
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: they were able to do is give us some element
• 28:16
  Speaker 10: of surprise or mystery as far as.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Who was going to come out and who was going
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to be next.
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: And honestly, with these teams, I don't know how much
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: interpersonal dynamics we could have gotten between them in the cage.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: It's not like so much like last year where you
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: have Roman and seeing Punk in a cage together two
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: guys who at the time clearly didn't mike each other,
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: but having to put up with each other in the cage,
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: and then you know, seeing Punk wanting to come out
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: there and Roman stopping him, saying no and sending I
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: think Jay or Jimmy or one of them out in
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: this place. So, I mean, there were definitely storytelling elements
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: to be told, and under that match, in those circumstances,
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: I don't know how much of that would have existed,
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: especially in women's match, because really the only the only
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: source of tension that existed at all was between Charlotte
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: and Rhea.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Briefly.
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, and they seemed to have resolved that
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: but before the War Games match started, So I don't
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: know that the shark cage would have been needed or
• 29:20
  Speaker 10: would have added anything. And this just in the case
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: of this year.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, we kind of all knew the
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: obviously the trash can spot, right, we all saw that
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: coming like a mile away. The whole Kyrie saying coming
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: in with a chain. Didn't see that. Did find it
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: kind of useless. Actually, uh, Rhea had a really unique mask.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: It's from a movie I'm not familiar with, but I'm
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: sure it's very popular.
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: For those who were fans of the horror genre. Yes
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: it is, Yeah, inspired by what was the name of
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: that franchise I've heard of it. I haven't watched it.
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: Though, terrif terrified name. Yeah, the main antagonist name is
• 30:14
  Speaker 13: Art the.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Clown, Art the Clown.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, I can't I can't wait till she
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: gets the mask off. She looks so fucking goofy with
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: then on that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: The whole I didn't I didn't realize though that not
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: just the mask, but her whole fit was art the
• 30:32
  Speaker 13: clown inspired, so like is he's got a black and
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: white clown gesture type motif and it played through her
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: whole ring, all of her ring gear instead of just
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: a mask.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: And you're you're right, Dre. They didn't make a last
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: legend look pretty strong when she came in, and I
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: was happy. I was like, you know, she came in last,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: probably which was probably best for her. I mean, there's
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of spots to call in a match like that,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: so maybe having somebody like her coming out last was
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: worked out well in her favor. She got a bunch
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: of good spots.
• 31:08
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I did think it was funny when Yo was doing
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: the trash can spot off the top that Becky was
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: smart enough to like move out of the way and
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: let everybody else take it. And uh, but you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: she paid for it in the end. She got like
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: everybody's finisher, which I thought was great.
• 31:26
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: The I maybe it's like the second I realized this
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: isn't the War Games match I was expecting, like as
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I I mean, as in like the look of the cage,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: the not having people in the shark cages themselves, like
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I was kind of like rapped the bat, like, ah, great,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: like disappointed, you know, uh, but I'm sure I wasn't
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: the only one. And I did hear a lot of
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: reports about people had problems seeing anything, the views were
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: very obstructed and their poles in the way and stuff.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: And there was a guy who went and complained about
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a poll in his way and he couldn't see anything,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: and they relocated him to like cheaper seats and basically,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: you know, he didn't get any money back. So I
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: think he's trying to dispute that being moved to like
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: cheaper seats and have you know, after where you're sitting
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: is you're sitting in front of a pole. But like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: who's whose fault really is that? Is that the venue's
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: fall is at ww the way they set up their stage.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Like I mean, I'm sure we've all had it going
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: to an event. We've had either two things. You had
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: something obstructing you you can't see shit, or you have
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: light constantly in your face. So it's one of the two.
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: But I mean, when he says, maybe I'll be curious
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: to know, like when the guy says there was a
• 32:58
  Speaker 10: pole in his way, Yeah, was it part of the
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: apelwe that was obstructing his view or was it a
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: you know, a structure of the of the baseball stadium.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it was. I think it was
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: w W structure. Uh, because they were just standard seats.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I guess where he was sitting like it was. Uh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: you know, I guess any other a venue would be fine.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: But I'm sure like if I go and look back,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: well it's you know, anytime they do these open, open
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: arena things, you know, we've we've seen them at Wrestlemaniaz
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: even do a hell in a cell. You know, they
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: did a Hell and a cell with was a Bray
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: White and Undertaker, and I was like, how are they
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: gonna hide an entire hell? Was it those two? No,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I forget who it was. There was a hell and
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a cell and they like hit it in the middle
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: of the day, like hiding it above, you know, between
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: the Titan tron, Like that's interesting the Jumbo tron, I guess.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: But uh, anyway, for the first match, Yeah, I wasn't.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I mean to that guy.
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: I would just say, like, you know, if it's part
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: of the WWE structure, that was a poll those way, Yeah,
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: tough titties, dude. I mean, you paid for the seat,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: you didn't you know you got that seat. If some
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: of their setup happens to obstructure view, they I don't
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: know that they can be anything could be done about.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: That, and by the time a little too late.
• 34:30
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean they're set up. As they're set up,
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: you think they're sitting there putting us all together and
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: then being like, Okay, now we all need to check
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: all these seats in the arena and see if any
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: of these forty six thousand seats are obstructed by the
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: setup that we have, and if they are, then what
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: we got to redesign the set up the last minute.
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: We got to contact those people who purchase those tickets
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: are like, hey, we see that you bought this ticket,
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: and yeah, part of our setup this year has a
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: poll that it might obstruct your view. So like they're
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: not gonna do all that. It's it's the chance that
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: you take when you purchase these tickets, so you kind
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: of have to deal with it. I mean, when I
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: got my tickets for smack Down at the Scope, I
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: thought I had a great seat, and for the most part,
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: I did, but there was a part at the beginning
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: where one of the w WE cameramen had the camera
• 35:25
  Speaker 10: set up directly in my line of sight, like directly
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: in front of me, enough that I could not see
• 35:32
  Speaker 10: a part of what was happening in the ring unless
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: I lean to the side. I'm not gonna sit there
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: and be like, I'm gonna go up to the cameraman like, hey, man,
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: get the fuck out of my way. Dude, like no,
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: it's I mean, yeah, but he mean that guy's got
• 35:48
  Speaker 10: a job to do. He has a product of film it, Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: So I mean I can't fault him. He's doing his
• 35:55
  Speaker 10: job just to see if I chose, I see what I see.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: And it's not like he didn't block my view the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: entire night.
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: It was maybe like for part of main event, which
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: was recorded prior to SmackDown, So by the time the
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: actual SmackDown stuff took place, you know, he was out
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: of the way. So, I mean, it's a minor inconvenience.
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: So there was a pole that obstructed your view, you'd
• 36:17
  Speaker 10: be a right, you'll live. I'm pretty sure it didn't
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: block that one pole. Well, I'm pretty sure it was
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: not so big that it blocked two entire rings of action.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: No, exactly.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Uh no, Tyler, what'd you think this match?
• 36:38
  Speaker 13: Well, in going off of the you know, the whole
• 36:42
  Speaker 13: complain about the cage and everything, I was just I've
• 36:44
  Speaker 13: just been sitting here, like comparing this year's cage to
• 36:48
  Speaker 13: cages in the past, and there's really no difference. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: mean with the exception of I think the first year
• 36:54
  Speaker 13: they did war games where the panels came together, it
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: was just one pole as a posed to two different
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: panels coming together, so that space is just ever so
• 37:06
  Speaker 13: slightly wider. Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. For
• 37:13
  Speaker 13: the first war games that I was able to watch
• 37:16
  Speaker 13: and enjoy from front to back, I was I'm gonna
• 37:20
  Speaker 13: put this one. I would say this one was number
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: two for the night. As far as like good matches,
• 37:26
  Speaker 13: from from best to worst, this was number two. There
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: was there were times like with Charlotte and Alexa, I
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: thought they had a couple good moments together, you know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: teaming up and trying to trying to give their team
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: a little bit of a breather one up. You know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: they looked out for each other. I think as far
• 37:51
  Speaker 13: as the cages go, I think there could be a
• 37:55
  Speaker 13: little room for dialogue and storytelling had they had the cages.
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: You know, you have Becky who claimed to have put
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: together the team that she was on herself, and you
• 38:09
  Speaker 13: know that got a couple awkward looks. So I can
• 38:12
  Speaker 13: imagine her trying to paul shots in the cage, and
• 38:16
  Speaker 13: you know, it's probably not going to go the way
• 38:19
  Speaker 13: she thinks. Maybe the same thing with Rhea and Charlotte
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: in their cage if they're in there for a longer
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: period of time. But the unnecessary storytelling that we went
• 38:32
  Speaker 13: through the week and a half prior the War Games
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: was you know, did a good job of kind of
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: squashing ads, so that probably wouldn't have been anything to
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: worry about, but a lot of good spots. I think
• 38:47
  Speaker 13: there were a lot more exciting moments in this match
• 38:50
  Speaker 13: than the male counterpart match. And yeah, I think overall
• 38:56
  Speaker 13: for the night, i'd give it a number two. It'd
• 38:58
  Speaker 13: be number two on the on the list.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
• 39:07
  Speaker 10: Probably, like I probably call it the second best match
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: of the night.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Probably make him an agreement with you on that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I I'm interested to know he has number one matches. Though,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: let's hear it. Let's get to it, because I think
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be different.
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: Any other final thoughts on this women's War Games match.
• 39:33
  Speaker 13: No, No, I think the team that everybody wanted to
• 39:38
  Speaker 13: win one, and I think it was just fitting that
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: it was a j Lee and Becky Lynch with the
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: black widow. Yeah, I felt like a nice way to
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: put a bow on that match. You know, Survivorsers war
• 39:52
  Speaker 13: Games is in the books, but maybe it's going to
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: continue the aj and Becky storyline.
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I'm sure that at some point aj will
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: pop back up. I mean, clearly she's doing the part
• 40:12
  Speaker 10: time things.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: She's not.
• 40:13
  Speaker 10: She's not on the roster full time that we're gonna
• 40:15
  Speaker 10: see every Monday on Raw. But I think they've pretty
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: much confirmed that she's a part timer. So next time
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: she'll pop up, I'm pretty I would speculate she'll be
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: right back into the mix with Becky Lynch and hopefully
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: it will lead to a one on one match just
• 40:32
  Speaker 10: between them too. To that way, we can. But that's
• 40:36
  Speaker 10: the rest, and then aj Lee can move on to
• 40:38
  Speaker 10: something else with someone else.
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: Even that is a good point. I didn't think about that.
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: He said it that both of their interactions have been
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: you know, yeah, the mixed tag match and then the
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: War Games match, So yeah, that'd be uh cool to see.
• 40:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean all of all of AJ's interactions have
• 40:58
  Speaker 10: been yet walled around. Becky Lynch say she's come back,
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: so can only squeeze so much milk out of that?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Cal very true? Yeah all right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 10: So next match was for the WWE Intercontinental Championship, featuring
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: the challenger, San Diego's own Dirty Dominique Mysterio with Raquel
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: Rodriguez and Rock Sane Perez by his side, facing the
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: defending champion, the one time Intercontinental Champion.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: John Cena.
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: This was probably the best match of the night, even
• 41:50
  Speaker 10: though I think the finish was an overbooked mess. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: do think they did a little too much with the finish,
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: but I do think it was still the best match
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: of the night. I would have preferred for Dominic to
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: win clean, which, by the way, Dominic did win and
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: get his Intercontinental title back as he properly should have
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: the return of Dirty dom dose belts, but I would
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: have preferred that, Oh excuse me. My preference would have
• 42:26
  Speaker 10: been for Dirty dom to win clean, just him John
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: one on one and Dominic come out on top using
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: whatever creative tactics he needed. To that being said, I'm
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: not mad at the fact that I'm also not disappointed
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: in the fact that it was the women who helped
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: out Dirty Dom the most that I wasn't mad about either,
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: like Raquel or Rox saying being by his side. Wasn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: opposed to that I could have done without JD and Finn.
• 42:56
  Speaker 10: I feel like they were unnecessary and showed up just
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: so that Johnsena could put them both on his shoulder
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: and hit an AA so we get that two man
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: attitude adjustment one last time. Other than that they weren't necessary,
• 43:14
  Speaker 10: I would have been perfect. I think I think it
• 43:16
  Speaker 10: would have been much better if would it have just
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: been Dom and his and his ladies. And props to
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: John Cena for taking the finishers from the girls like
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: he took a Tahna bomb from Raquel and of pop
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: rocks from Rock Sand like props to him for that
• 43:36
  Speaker 10: those I thought were pretty dope spots and fucked the
• 43:42
  Speaker 10: referee for refusing to count the pen for Dom after Dom.
• 43:50
  Speaker 10: You know, they tried to pull a penca and you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: fake a shoulder injury while John Cena was eating those
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: dawn that to Hannah bomb and pop rocks and then
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: Dom runs right back in there, and now all of.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: A sudden, the referee refuses to do his job. Now,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: all of a.
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: Sudden, the referee wants to have a moral compass, like, no,
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: I'm not gonna count the pen. I'm sorry, should us
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: to the mat man covered, Do your motherfucking job, brother,
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: count the damn free. You ain't in there to be
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: some moral police.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: You ain't in there for that. Do he god damn job.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But now you just want to refuse. No, I'm not
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: gonna do it because you faked.
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: Injury, and fuck you add my fake injury. Do your job,
• 44:37
  Speaker 10: do your my fucking job. That part I hate it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: He ain't like referees be sitting there, and let's there's
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: about to be some new trend where we're about to have,
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: you know, referees with moral compasses being moral polices out
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: there about the time when they want to count and
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: when they don't want to count. But other than that, no,
• 44:59
  Speaker 10: do you got damn job? Count depends? Let John kick
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: out and let's move on.
• 45:03
  Speaker 13: But excuse me, it's Jessica conspiracy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So what Jessica Carr? What is it?
• 45:15
  Speaker 13: I said? Is it Jessica card conspiracy?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: Let's find out Jessica Jessica Carr has been rallying all
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: the referees in the back to start standing up for themselves,
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: like we don't have to do this, we we control
• 45:30
  Speaker 10: those matches and all this stuff. She becomes a little
• 45:32
  Speaker 10: faction leader. I'm not at least to her n ring debut.
• 45:38
  Speaker 13: You know what, that actually sounds like it might have
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: some interesting uh uh potential to it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: It would be too bad until Charles Robinson has to
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: go one all over with somebody.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He gets fucking ragged all all over the place.
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: Find out one of the old old uh oldhead referees
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: is like their manager or something like that or something
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: like that. I know he's their manager. And just like
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: trains in the background.
• 46:10
  Speaker 10: I mean, Triple Ah might probably wouldn't do it, but
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: you know, if it was Vince, we'd be getting to
• 46:14
  Speaker 10: Charles Robinson versus fucking Bronson reidmatch, Oh my god, and
• 46:20
  Speaker 10: Charles Robinson would be eating about eight tsunamis in the ring.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Right, good ship.
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: So after all them shenanigans and that happens, then we
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: get the moments that nobody expected, the return of one
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: Live Morgan. Welcome who now this is where.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: To me the stadium.
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: I don't know if it was just audioly with WWEE
• 47:01
  Speaker 10: or I don't know, maybe I wasn't paying full attention
• 47:04
  Speaker 10: at the moment. It felt like when her music hit one,
• 47:07
  Speaker 10: I could barely hear her music when I was watching
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: it live, But I also couldn't hear the pop from
• 47:13
  Speaker 10: the crowd. It seemed not as loud as you would
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: have thought. But according to our friend in Discord, who
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: was there live, he said, the pop was absolutely massive.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: In the arena when she showed up.
• 47:31
  Speaker 10: And I've seen subsequent replays of the moment and yeah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: you can hear the sizeable pop when she came back.
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: So maybe that was just on me not fully paying
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: attention or what have you?
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: Could have been what's that could have also been a
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: streaming issue like a lag or something like that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: Potentially definitely couldn't possibly blame it on the VPN. But nevertheless,
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: she came back. She came into the ring.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Dom was all like, hey, may welcome back, Happy to
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: see you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: To what she responded with a prompt slapped to the face,
• 48:17
  Speaker 10: laying out down, shocking John Cena, to whom she turned
• 48:22
  Speaker 10: around jumped into his arms, and then flexed every house
• 48:27
  Speaker 10: of her little acting chops that she's built up over
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: these last year some change doing these movies and stuff,
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: because she gave a look in them eyes and that's
• 48:38
  Speaker 10: when you knew a shit about the turn and showed up.
• 48:46
  Speaker 10: She jumped down and ooh yeah, right to the balls,
• 48:52
  Speaker 10: laid out John Cena with a swift one, and then disappointingly,
• 48:59
  Speaker 10: she threw him in into the ropes to take a
• 49:01
  Speaker 10: six yet nine and then a frog splash so that
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: Dom could have good get the pen and be regained
• 49:08
  Speaker 10: there the Connell Championship. The only reason why I say
• 49:10
  Speaker 10: disappointing that she threw him into the ropes is I
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: wanted her to deliver an oblivion. We already saw Dom
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: hit a sixty one nine on Seena earlier in the match.
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: We didn't need a second one, and he already took
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: the Tahana bomb and he took pop rocks. Go for
• 49:27
  Speaker 10: the hat trick, John Cena, take oblivion from live and
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: then use that for the frog splash. That's the only
• 49:34
  Speaker 10: slight tweak I would have made. But other than that,
• 49:38
  Speaker 10: I thought that I thought that part of the finish
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: would live. Returning and pulling the fake, which if you
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: were really watching and paying attention realistically, it was obvious,
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: kind of obvious that she was gonna turn on johnsona
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: could when she slapped Dom she completely missed him. Now,
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: I don't know if they miss she missed him, because
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: like she's clearly swung over his head and then he
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: fell out. I don't know if it was supposed to
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: be like that to fake out John to you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: k fabe fool John Cena and the thinking she really
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: slapped him, or if they just miscommunicated and just watched
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: the spot. I don't know which one it was. But
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: either way, when I was watching it and I saw
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: that slap, I was like, Nope, she missed. She's faking
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: him out. But like I said, that's neither here nor
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: there either way. Overall, I thought this was a great match,
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: best one of the match. Well, I thought it was
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: a really good match. I won't go so far as
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: to say great, but it was really good and of
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: the four matches we had tonight, it was the best one.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, waye man, you know what this was to me,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: the most entertaining of the night. Like you said, it
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: wasn't it wasn't like you can definitely not match the
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: year candidate or anything, but out of these four matches,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: it was entertaining. It was something I was looking forward to.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of knew what I was going
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: to be getting Johnsena's last official pl e right, this
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: is Dirty Domb, a guy who got to kind of
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: skip to the head of the line. Everybody's doing this
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: tournament to wrestle John You know in this I know
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: it's not like his last match, but like this close
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: to the end of his career, and Dirty Dom just like,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: you know, I want to rematch, like I want another match.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Like sure, we'll have seen a wrestle you twice the
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: amount of shenantikins that was used in the fucking match
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: three guys and three women to gain that intercontinental title.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: So I thought it was hilarious. Dude, Dom selling that
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: shoulder like like Penta. You know, Penta has a legit injury,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: but that's such a that's such a dick move to
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: go and use that same move and then hurt your
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: shoulder after Penta just got injured. Oh man, I don't
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: know if that was like a jabb de pensa at
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: what because I know I've seen some podcasts were like
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: you know in character Dom, like Javs at Penta. He
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't like Penta. I think it's funny, So I don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: know if that was like a nod to that, but
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: uh yeah, and John Latin latting, you know, the women
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: were held to get a power bomb on him and
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: the Pop Rocks like and a pretty good one too,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: like John Steen has always been pretty well taking that
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: kind of move, that that Pop Rocks type of move
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: where it turns into a pin almost uh and dirt Guys,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Dirty Dumb kicked out of an aa. Oh my. I
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: was a little surprised. Uh. You know, I didn't expect
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to live Morgan return until like I think it was
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I think Tyler, I think I told you maybe like
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: an hour before the show started. I was like, I think,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: like Morgan's going to return, and I was like, I
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: have like two ideas for her, and I was like,
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: I think one of them is he's gonna help Dirty
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: dam so yeap.
• 53:13
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you definitely made mention of it that it was
• 53:16
  Speaker 13: like a rumor you would hurt like that, Like, okay, maybe,
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: I honestly and in all honesty, didn't believe that it
• 53:25
  Speaker 13: would happen. Yeah, but I'll elaborate later.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was expecting like rumble and and like, damn, Like,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know now should I have Like I feel
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: like maybe we should have waited into rumble. Rumble's not
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: that far away, I mean, right, it's like January, end
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: of January.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I think at the end of January, So I mean that's.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, damn, Like, do we really need.
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: Living maybe another nine weeks away, right, but all this
• 53:51
  Speaker 10: month that all of January to get.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Through, right, But do we really need you know, Live
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: to come back this early? I felt like the Rumble
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: would have been a way bigger, pop, way bigger. But
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: y'all had better have big plans for her because it
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: looks like they're throwing her, Raquel and Roxanne all into
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: gaining all the gold bag for the women. And you
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: know that's okay. I mean we didn't. We were mostly
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: expecting Roxanne and Live to have a few. But I
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: don't think now at this point in time, I even
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: want to see it. I don't think Roxanne is even
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: on the level of Live Morgans even care for a
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: feud right now. So if i'd rather, I rather see Yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I rather.
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: You don't think Roxander is on the level live. What
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: are you talking about? Are you talking about like ring
• 54:41
  Speaker 10: ability or or star power?
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: Ring?
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: Ring ability and star power? I think it's both, man like,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I don't think definitely not star power, definitely not like.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: If you're trying to build a story like, I don't
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: think it's gonna work. I don't think I'm gonna be
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: clamoring to see fucking rock stand versus Live.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Morgan, you know no, I'll agree with you.
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: As far as star power, yeah, Roxanne is not on
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: Lives Left Live. Has established herself as one of the
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: top women on the roster without a shadow of doubt.
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: And Roxanne is still fairly new, ain't no question about that.
• 55:21
  Speaker 10: But it ain't ring and ring ability.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: Don't sleep on Roxy. Rox Anne can cook. You haven't
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: watched you haven't watched as much n x T as
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: the rest of us. But nah, rox Anne can get
• 55:36
  Speaker 10: busy in the ring. They call her the prodigy for
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: a reason. It ain't just because she's looked that way.
• 55:43
  Speaker 10: She got she got real talent in the ring.
• 55:46
  Speaker 13: I think that's probably when she'd have a better chance.
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: As far as star power or NXT prime because after
• 55:53
  Speaker 13: she came in, after she came in as a as
• 55:55
  Speaker 13: a main roster, it seems like since she showed up,
• 55:59
  Speaker 13: she kind of fell off a little bit, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: just kind of like fell into the storyline like a
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: tertiary character. But as opposed to somebody who's really out
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: there and instantly in storylines and like their name is
• 56:12
  Speaker 13: always being brought out.
• 56:15
  Speaker 10: Well, sure, that's that's valid, But I think that's part
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: of that is because she came in and joined into
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: a faction, and so she's and she's not the leader
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: of that faction.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: She's not at the forefront of that faction. She more
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: or less is.
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: Being paired up with Rock San and they've been doing
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: things as a team and as a tag team. So
• 56:39
  Speaker 10: I mean as opposed to her, you know, being a
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: singles competitor and just being I'm rox Sanmperez by myself.
• 56:48
  Speaker 10: But I think this has worked out better for her
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: because if she had been just a singles competitor by herself,
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: I think it's a good chance she could have gotten
• 56:59
  Speaker 10: lost in the show with everyone else, especially with all
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: the star.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Power that they have, you know.
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: On Raw at times, you know, between the Kabookie warriors
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: between people like Oska and Becky Lynch and Stephanie Vaquer
• 57:14
  Speaker 10: who's clearly the one that they're pushing that they've pushed
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: to the moon right now and built up. And then
• 57:20
  Speaker 10: obviously you had you know, Naomi was there at the
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: time when Roxanne first showed up as a women's champion.
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: You got Rhea Ripley, you got Eo Sky. I mean
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: Roxanne just as an individual by herself, very much could.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Have been lost in the sauce.
• 57:36
  Speaker 13: So I think her.
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: Being paired up with a prominent faction like the Judgment
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: Day is working to her benefit because it's keeping her
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: on people's radars, keeping her in front of the camera.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: People are seeing her, she's working matches, and it's keeping
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: her relevant until such point where a Judgment Day storyline
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: can move to the forefront involving her and Live or
• 58:04
  Speaker 10: her or her and Roquel, or whatever.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Storyline they come up with.
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: That seems to be the thing I guess now with
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: w w E, they may, you know, where different storylines
• 58:15
  Speaker 10: kind of shuffle in and out of being at the forefront,
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: right and sometimes we tend to think that, Okay, this
• 58:24
  Speaker 10: isn't happening at the forefront that somebody's falling off or
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: the falling into the background, and it's like, no, it's
• 58:30
  Speaker 10: just kind of the the shuffling of the deck as
• 58:33
  Speaker 10: they do it. Like, you know, these are the storylines
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: we're gonna feature prominently right now. Some of these other
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: ones are gonna still be there, but take a bit
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: of a back seat.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Then those wrap up.
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: Other storylines will move to the forefront, other storylines will
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: fall to the back. So I'm okay with where Rock
• 58:50
  Speaker 10: sands at right now, right.
• 58:55
  Speaker 13: Dude.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: Still, this match was very entertaining the fact that it
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: took how many fucking people to take the gold off Asena, Like,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I guess I didn't want to see the gold go,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: you know, any further than this. I didn't want to
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: see the icy title go to his last match, But
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: you know, we were gonna have to get here some
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: way at some point. What better person than Dirty Dom.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I guess you don't want somebody to win clean to
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: beat him first title, right, like, especially two weeks out
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: of his retirement match, So why not have the dirtiest player,
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: Dirty Dumb, take it in the dirtiest way possible.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Dirty Dumb to goat the future, goat.
• 59:42
  Speaker 13: He's definitely worked on it.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this, Tyler?
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: I agree with you Number one match the night. Yeah,
• 59:53
  Speaker 13: as far as entertainment and ring execution, definitely one uh
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 13: to the list showing up and uh, you know, jumping
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 13: on John. I think the only reason she couldn't have
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 13: done an oblivion was because she had her legs them
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 13: as opposed to like jumping in his arms, and both
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 13: of her legs are up on side. Otherwise it would
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 13: have been awesome to see a hat trick. And when
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 13: you talk like.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: I was gonna, I just made like after she kicked
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: him in the balls, that's what I wanted her to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: hit the oblivion.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 13: Okay, all right? That that would have been cool to see,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 13: you know, just to try and like, because then you
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 13: probably wouldn't have needed her, you know, offside to d
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 13: with the title. You know, Dom could have just picked
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 13: him up, throw him into the ropes and done his
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 13: whole thing with the bill.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 13: But when you talk about a w W legend and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 13: somebody who goes and pushes talent, you know what I mean,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: he's doing a He did a great job with Dom.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 13: You know, I think we got to see some really
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: cool moments with Dom and promos some confidence. But then
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 13: just to go outside of your own gender and help
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: the women and him selling their finishers the way he
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 13: did was awesome to be you know, so just to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 13: go beyond instead of just being an inspiration, you know,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 13: going above and beyond to sell finishers or take a
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 13: punch or a kick here or there. That was really
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 13: cool to see. And you know, Derry Dom wouldn't be
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 13: Dirry Dom if he didn't have the help of his people.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 13: And you know, some of his dads supposedly quote unquote
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 13: his supposed dads, you know, Latino Heat lied Sheet Steel
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 13: playbook to maybe drive from here and there, which was
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 13: really cool to see, you know, zipping the boot down
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 13: and he's going to put him in there the SDFU
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 13: or whatever you want to call it. You know, I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 13: don't know if we're still PG. Thirteen or not, but
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 13: to go and do that and then the boot slips off,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: you know, was really cool to see, selling the shoulder.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 13: You know, all these things were very reminiscent of Eddie Guerrero.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 13: Really cool touch on that. I do agree that, you know,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 13: the digs that he takes at Penta and then going
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 13: and selling a shoulder injury like that was, you know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 13: had a little bit of comedy to the situation. And
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 13: then you have the ref you know, getting in his
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 13: feels about well, I just call these guys out here
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 13: to tack on you because you were supposedly injured. You
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: can account this.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: You know, it was a little much.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 13: As was an n JD coming out trying to like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 13: stick their nose into business. I think that was the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 13: touch that really a little much as far as like,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 13: you know, everything going on in that moment. But to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 13: see the super sena two man AA was pretty cool
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 13: in his pl e.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 13: But then you know you have Liv coming out and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 13: you know, looking looking at her face. I wish they
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 13: would have shown John's face because the picture that I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 13: found afterwards was hilarious. But looking in Liv's face and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 13: seeing that smile, you know, all the way up into
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 13: her eye and then just split second change was priceless.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 13: And that's when I knew that shit was about to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 13: hit the fan. I'm like, okayo, champion. You know, from
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 13: that moment it was like very clear what was about
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 13: to happen.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: All of it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 13: Still culminated for me in a really great match, you know,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 13: like these guys alluded to not matching the year, but
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 13: a really well done match for Johnsona's final p l E.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 13: And I was, I was thoroughly pleased with it. You know,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 13: Dom gets the two belt back. John you know, fortunately
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 13: has to walk away with an l but in doing
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 13: so he's pushed you know, the next generation or two
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 13: of Superstars, which was just really cool to see.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, I gotta say, damn lost my train. I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: thought that first.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 13: That's a regular thing for me, brother, don't worry about it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: It was a response to something that you had mentioned
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: earlier about uh, you.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Know, it was nice seeing John Cena's last feet of
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: you know, super strength. You know, I was looking at
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: older videos of him lifting you know, two guys up
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: before during the A and he's de done it plenty,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: you know, big show and edge at the same time.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: You know, at this time, you know, it's a lot later, guys,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: he is a bit older. It's still ye just to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: see it though, it's still it's still amazing.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: So I didn't Yeah, I mean, I'll give him that,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: you know, picking freaking j D McDonough's head off the ground.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: But I still I still personally would have preferred, you know,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: if they had not been involved. But it is what
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: it is. But you are right about the uh, how
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: priceless it was seeing that look from Live right like that,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: that that moment right there. You know, that's something that's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 10: gonna get replayed over and over again. And one little
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: unexpected nugget that of legacy that John Cena has apparently
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: left us is it seems that from now on, anytime
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: somebody does something like that, it's gonna be called the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: Sena turn. No, I'm sure y'all seen ViOS online where
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: they've shown Lived what Live did to John and right
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: overlap with what Sena did to Cody. It's pretty much
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: a mirror the exact same thing, the embrace, the close
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: up on the face, the change, step back, kick to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 10: the balls, and it's like yeah, it's like yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: it's like a one for one recreation. So you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: karma caught up to John, I guess you could say,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: And yeah, people have kind of coined that the Sena turn.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: So one little, one last unexpected piece of legacy that
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: John Sena has left us, like the Dusty Rhodes finish
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: now we have the Sena turn, and I will bet
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: at some point, maybe not in the near future, but
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: at some point in the wrestling future, somebody else will
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 10: do that again. When it happens exactly people see it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: He did the thing, he did the scene a turn.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 10: Any other thoughts on this match, now, dude.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: It's super entertaining. That's great.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 13: Oh great, go ahead, Oh I just I just agreed.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Alry. The next match after this.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 10: Was one on one match for the Women's World Championship,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 10: Stephanie Vaquier the champion, defending against Nicki Bella.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Steph one.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: She pretty much dog walked Nicki Bella as she should have,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: she seemed.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: A little bit more, I don't know.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: The look on her face in this match seemed angrier
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: than we typically see out of Stephanie.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was just character play on
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: her part or some have.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 10: Speculated that maybe she was a bit upset with Nicki
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: Bella in.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: The mask because Nicki's work was a.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 10: Little bit lacking in some spots, specifically the Devil's Kiss,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 10: and Nikki probably has done the worst cell job of
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 10: that maneuver that I've seen, with her basically dead weighting
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: her arms and not. You know, if you see anybody
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 10: else who takes the Devil's Kiss, their arms kind of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: you know, almost windmill with it and they push up
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 10: to help execute the move, right, Nikki's arms were just
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: flopping there on the side.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: She also didn't she was on her stomach, She wasn't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: on her knees, which kind of also helps.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: Right, So it definitely made the move not look as
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: as polished as it should. It seemed like it seemed
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: because she took it twice. She took it one on
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: the announced table and then took it the second time
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 10: the ring. On the announce table, she you know, kind
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: of botched it, and then it seemed at some point
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 10: she kind of realized, oh she I'm supposed to be pushing,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: and then kind of started to but it still didn't
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: really save it, excuse me, And then in the ring
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: she just completely pancaked it and Stephanie Vicaire didn't look
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 10: too happy about it. But it's probably about the only
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: real noteworthy thing out of this match, because outside of that,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 10: Stephanie Vacaret kind of whooped her ass. Nikki had a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 10: little bit of offense, but she was pretty much dominated
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: by Stephanie Vicare and Stephanie retained and a match that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: went for twelve minutes and twenty seconds. This is about
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 10: what I expected of this match, obviously, if we're ranking them,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 10: this one ranked at the bottom. S What are your
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: thoughts on this one?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Tyler?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 13: For a little bit there, I was placing his match
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 13: at number three. It wasn't until you know, you had
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 13: mentioned some things that I'd completely like either forgotten or
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 13: overlooked or didn't notice in the moment and going back
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 13: and thinking about it, and I'm like, damn, you know
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 13: that it kind of felt like the female version of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 13: brock Lesnar versus John Cena, but like the rules are
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 13: switched a little bit, where you know, Carer, who is
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 13: the champion, is the the the brock Lesnar equivalent, and
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 13: then Nicki, who's coming coming back from retirement, is John
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: Cena who's on his way out and and just dominates
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 13: the whole match. Nikki had a few good moments where
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 13: she tried putting on some offense and tried showing like
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 13: this whole heel turn, which feels like a wasted effort
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 13: in some regards. Uh, you know, I get it that It's.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: Well, do we lose Tyler, He'll all, I think we
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: lost Tyler.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 10: Oh well, uh, I guess we'll give my moment. See
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 10: if you can get back in here in the meantime,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 10: you want to go ahead with your thoughts, Wayne.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: Well, uh that match happened. Uh yeah, dude, Like I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: feel like this, it's not the match that didn't have
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: time to cook. It's the fucking the feud that didn't
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: have time to cook. The feud seemed like it had none.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: The promos were done for them, like between venues. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: recall last week, was it I was watching roll or
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: something that they had a promo during the entrance of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: one of the wrestlers, Like, there's an entrance going on,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: and they're jamming your promo in your video package in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: between the entrances. Like how the hell am I supposed
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: to take this at all serious? Like as a few
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: like like as a match at all for anybody? And
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: that's why, like this, this whole fucking thing was a letdown.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: And and obviously these two weren't even on the same
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: fucking page. It looked like you know, you're right, though,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Stephanie was upset with the way the match was going on.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's because these two just did not you know,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: weren't just weren't on the same page. And I'm not
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: saying neither of them are bad wrestlers. They're both great wrestlers.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: It's just they need to you just need to the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: two people work well together. I'm being honest, you know,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: not not wrestling ability, but looks wise, Nicki looked fucking fantastic.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: The best she's looked in a long time. I mean,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: especially for a woman her age, looks fucking great. You know,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: not a lot of people who leave the ring and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: come back still look in great condition. Uh yeah, you're right.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: Though the we discussed it to end here at the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Devil's Kiss, he did wrong. And you know, I thought
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: that the Devil's Kiss on the the table, like, oh,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: maybe she'll put it to the table or I don't
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: know something, but no, it's just it's just it was
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: very boring, man, I'm just gonna be honest. It was
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: a very boring match. It was not exciting. And I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: think it's like, I think Nikki was born there. I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: know she's from Arizona, but I think she was born there.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: So even being like a hometown girl, she still got
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: booed and not booed, but like there's no no reaction.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: You know, it is very dead. Yeah, but I guess
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: we always have a bathroom break match, right, and unfortunately
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Stephanie Vilcrow's match had to be the the bathroom break
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: match of the evening.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you're right there. She is another hometowner. This
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: was our hometown. She guess was born in San Diego.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and it's just weird, like you know, you
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: give we give dirty Dominds win in San Diego. But
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: even even even if you would have given Nicki a win,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: like given it a very very healish type win, you know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: she kinda cheated to win or something. But what was
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: the whole.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 10: Point anybody trying to see Nicki Bella as the women's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 10: world champion?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't think so, not one last run.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: I think if she's gonna have any Honestly, if there's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: gonna be any gold around her waist, it's gonna be
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: a tag title and it's gonna be her and Brie.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: That's that's the only thing I see. I don't see
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: an hesty title. I don't see United States even I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: see she was originally brought back for the tag titles,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: and you know, Live got hurt, and I feel like
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: that's where it kind of you know, suayed. But now
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: she's gonna kind of disappear into the I know, with
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: all the other heels, she's just gonna be buried because
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: we have too many heels females and too many big
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: female heels.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: So I don't know, well, I don't I don't think
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: she'll be buried. I think she'll still be in a
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 10: fairly prominent role. But given that she has clearly shown
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 10: that she can, she can still perform in the ring,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: but she definitely these still has some rust to shake off.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: As far as I guess, there are timing and communication
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: that stuff still needs.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Some work, So maybe she takes a bit of a
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: backseat for a moment.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: There's been a speculation that she's gonna I guess she's
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: still working to bring uh Brie, her twin sister Brian.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 10: I don't know if this is something that Bree's apprehensive about,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: or if they're she's already gonna do it and they're
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 10: just waiting for the right timing or what.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: But you know, we'll we'll see.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: But that's probably the best thing that could probably go
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 10: for Nikki right now is just bring in Brie Bella
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: twins and let them getting the mix in the women's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: tag team division at some point. But yeah, hers single wrestling,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: it's been very up and down, and I damn sure
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 10: ain't gonna put none of the blame on that match
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 10: on Stephanie vaquer because Stephanie mcare can fucking go in
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: the ring.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Again. Another one that.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 10: I've seen she's had, She's already had a number of great,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 10: good matches on the main roster, and she's also another
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: one I've been following from NXC. She had great match
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: is in then x T as well. So she can
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: wrestle circles around Mickey Bella in her sleep. So yeah,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 10: TIS joined back in the recording, But.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 13: Yeah, there is I know, I thought I was going
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 13: off on like a whole tangent.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 12: I kind of I'm glad now thinking back that.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 13: I got disconnected or whatever, because I kind of like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 13: meandered path for a second and then I come back,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 13: I'm like, I don't hear anybody what is going on?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 10: And well, have you had a moment to I guess, uh,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: consolidate those thoughts.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: You got more refined approaching the share.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, ten number two.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 13: There we go for all. I agree with you, Uh,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 13: you agree, Dedre that it was number four a match
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: at the end of the night. Different ways they could
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 13: have utilized the he'll turn and NICKI I also think
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 13: there's a number of things that they could have done
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 13: aside from a heel turned to try and sell very
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: long technicality and prowess missing from Niki, And you could
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 13: sense that in the match there was like a lack
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 13: of pop a lot in the crowd, and it makes
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 13: sense that Vacker would be uh disgruntled, unhappy with how
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: things were going in the moment, you know, Uh, thinking back,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 13: it showed a couple of times the frustration I think
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 13: the time away, you know when when people think about
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 13: getting back in the ring and like, I'm going to
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 13: be able to do this and this again, and you know,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 13: they forget that there's a whole new generation of superstars
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 13: in there that you know, have completely different move sets
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 13: than what you were used to before. And then I
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 13: also wonder how much of it was previous injuries that
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 13: played into how Nicky moves and operates. Now, you know,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 13: I'm not sure something is all it's not all the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 13: way there for her like it used to be, but
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 13: as a result, definitely bottom of the card match for me. Bro.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: I mean you're right, though, Tyler, like there's she had
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: neck injuries, you know, even I think it was from
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: her original finisher, the rack attack was causing her neck
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: injuries to be even worse. And that's why that she
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: now has the rack attack two point zero. It's modified
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: a little. But yeah, right, dude, when when any kind
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: of wrestler leaves the ring for a long period of time,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: coming back, like they're not going to be exactly how
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: we envision them when they were, you know, in their primer,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: in their height of their career. I mean, guys, we're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: gonna have it's inevitable, but we're probably gonna have Christierich
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: would come back and he ain't gonna be wrestling like
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: like he used to, like you know, since the last
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: time you saw him in WWE, if that's the only
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: time you've seen him, a lot of people, you know,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: well we'll get to that with the last match. But yeah,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: you're right, dude, like injuries that stacked up over the years,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: you had to probably change the way you wrestle.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 13: It's it's unfortunate too, because you have you know, today's
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 13: newer talent that are like shit, so and so is back,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 13: and you know, maybe I can work with them and
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 13: get a big push of my own in my career.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 13: And you know, if if that was a hope for
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 13: for Stephanie, I think it it probably hurt more than
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 13: it OpEd, you know, ah, which I mean with the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 13: trajectory that she's on and how how I think she's
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 13: gotten and how fast they're pushing her. If there was
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 13: any hurt, probably not gonna see it.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, this I don't think.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: I don't think this match hurts Stephanie Vicare in any
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: way whatsoever. I think most people, again, if they're gonna
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: put any kind of blame on the quality of this match,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: they're gonna blame Nikki for it. But it's a good
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 10: point that you did bring up as far as you know,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: older wrestlers, especially on the women's division, coming in and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 10: mixing it up with the current crop. And yeah, these
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 10: women wrestling now are on a completely different level from
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 10: the Divas era and before. So if you're gonna come
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 10: in now and try to mix it up with them,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 10: you got to bring it you can't wrestle the same
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: way you wrestled in the diva's era and think that's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 10: gonna cut it with this crop of women's wrestless because nah, nah,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 10: they they they gets busy now exactly they can come
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 10: with it. You ain't about to sit here and just
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 10: do you know arm drags and hair tosses and all
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 10: that stuff, and you know, an occasional little move here
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: and there and think that's gonna get you by so
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 10: to the to the to the ones who can come
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: back and mix it up with a bl like Trish
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 10: Stratus has shown that she can come in with today's
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 10: crop and go toe to toe with them. It just,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 10: you know, enhances their legacy. In my opinion, it just establishes,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 10: you know, somebody like Trish as you know, one of
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 10: the goats, and the fact that she could mix it
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: up in the Attitude era with people like Lida and
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 10: Jazz and Victoria and them, and then she could mix
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 10: it up in the Divas era with the women of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 10: that time. And she can come in now, you know,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 10: and mix it up with these women of today. Have
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 10: matches with the Tiffany Stratton's and the Becky Lynches and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 10: have not just passable matches, but great matches like the
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 10: still cage match she had with Becky Lynch last year. Right,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 10: So Nikki wants to have any type of If she
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 10: wants people to look back on this return run of
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 10: hers with any kind of positive feelings, she gonna have to.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 10: She's gonna have to step it up. Can't just be
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 10: a case of all right, I mean I'm in shape
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: and I feel good. All right, let's come back and
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 10: just go Nah. Maybe maybe take a trip down to Florida,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 10: shake some rust off. If you need to get it,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: put it, put it, put it there, or two win
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 10: at the PC. Nobody's gonna judge you for it, but
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 10: we will judge the matches when you are on TV.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 13: That all shows in the final product.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm yepy.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on this?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: No, you can look, but you can't touch.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Still the worst theme of any woman?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Ohtop, That is not true. We could sit here and
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: have a debate and talk about the worst theme music,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: because I will dig deep, my friend you. The ruthless
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: or aggression era of women's entrance theme is disgusting.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't say all the time. I'm just talking.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: Now modern even oh, Wait, so you're.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Right now her music has no pop to it.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: So you're saying that you think that Becky Lynch's new
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: theme music is better, and then Nicky Bella's Yeah, damn,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: that's mighty fine.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: I will say, yes it is.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: That's mighty fin.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not the.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: Biggest fan of Becky Lynch's Doude theme, but given that
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 10: she's a heel, she kind of has to have that
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 10: type of theme heel because she can't have the old
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 10: chanting type theme because you know, fans funk Rinder get
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: into it and start chating and ship. But that's what
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 10: it is. It's still better than freaking Nicky Bella's.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: Next podcast, I'm gonna bring on three theme songs from
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: modern from women who are on the roster right now,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna have to tell me who they are,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: and if they're worse than Nicky Bella.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I might not be able to identify him as you.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Know, Rebel the Yea. I wish Doyle was there because
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: I really I know he hates Becky Lynch's theme. I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: know he hates that song.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 10: Great, but he had even he has acknowledged, even though
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 10: all has acknowledged though that the lyrics to it makes
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 10: sense with her character as it is, so it's a
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: theme that makes sense even if it doesn't hit like
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 10: it should. Mickey Steen is flying on pure nostalgia.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 13: They could they could have at least done a remix.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Something to it, because right now it is just weird.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 10: It is so weak, Like what was it a few
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 10: weeks ago when she before she turned on Stephanie mckair
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 10: when she can't when Stephanie mcca was getting beat down
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 10: by somebody, and then she comes running down like no pop,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 10: Like if I'm getting if I was a woman out
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: in the ring and I'm getting my ass whumped, and
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 10: that's the music.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: That hits I'm not. I don't feel like I'm saved.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 13: Thin, Like if we're gonna like do a quick rank
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 13: of of of women's entrance music, the one that I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 13: hear and I'm absolutely hyped for every time, and it
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 13: makes sense. Damp is Stephanie Backer every time her music
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 13: hits them, like I get chills, I'm into it, I'm
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 13: freaking I'm head banging along. I'm like, yeah, lyrics hard, Yeah,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 13: if all it is lyrics, I feel like that's something
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 13: I can actually bang in my car when I'm on
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 13: the way to work or something.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, if we're if we're gonna do like
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 10: a quick, dirty ranking of women's themes, I would say
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 10: not maybe not all of them, but if I'm going
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 10: top five, I would say probably number one is uh,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 10: We'd ripley without question hers Hers as soon as it
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: hits immediate Hers is probably number one.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Number two I would give to I'm gonna give number
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: two to EO. Sky.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: I think she's got the second most immediately recognizable theme.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Soon as when that, when that, when that base drops, everybody.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: Know here that doom, Doom, doom, everybody knows Hers is
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 10: really picked up. I think she probably has the second
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 10: best one. I would give the third best one to
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: Stephanie Lacaier. Fourth best, I would say is right now
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 10: is probably Jade Car gill M. I would give her
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 10: probably the fourth best theme, and five. I'm gonna get five,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 10: probably to Lift Morgan. I think hers is another one
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 10: that's immediately recognizable and as soon as it hits people
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: immediately know who it is. Honorable mention to Bianca bel Air.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 10: But I've been saying for years Bianca needs a new theme.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 10: But it is recognizable when you hear that hair whip
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 10: and then the music hits. Everybody knows it's hers. But
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 10: I still think she needs a better theme.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 13: I Keith forgetting she's still with w W she's been
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 13: going for so long, which is I'm starting to feel
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 13: that way. It makes me wonder what everybody else is
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 13: starting to think.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: I no offense, but I think you're probably on an island.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: As far as forgetting that she's in the w W E.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 10: I don't think anybody's forgetting has forgotten of her. I
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 10: think people are now at People now are at the
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 10: point of one what went from wondering what's taking so long?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 10: But now that Live Morgan has come back, I think
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: some people are now starting are probably gonna now start
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 10: thinking about Bianca because if liv Morgan's back now, then
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 10: that opens up for a big return at the.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Rumble, right, So.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 10: That's something that that's a space that Bianca can feel
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: if she's ready to come back. And I obviously we
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: don't know, because she hasn't really given us much of
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 10: an update as far as her hand, other than some
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: time ago when she said that normally she were it
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 10: would have been recovered by now.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: She could have been came back.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 10: But the problem that she has that she can't flex
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 10: that finger, it is because she can't flex that finger,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 10: she has no grip or no grip strength in that
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: and that's been to hold up, which I you know,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: obviously if you're a wrestler, you kind of need your
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 10: hands for grip strength, right, But that was probably months
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 10: ago when she said that she's been doing media appearances
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 10: and I don't know if that's to you know, kind
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 10: of get her name back in the in the consciousness
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 10: because she was on a I think be ET's one
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 10: o six and Sports, some new show they had recently.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 10: She too, Yeah, she was doing the slim Gem commercials
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 10: with La Night and for a while there, so she
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: could be ready to come back, and they're just you know,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 10: waiting for the right time. They were like, okay, you know,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: we gotta live coming back in Survivors series.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: We'll bring you back.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 10: You know, she could come back at the beginning of
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: the year that January fifth Raw, which looks.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Like WWE maybe setting that up to be a major Raw.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 10: Because it would mark the one year man her first
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 10: re since Raw debut on Netflix. Maybe she returns then
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 10: maybe they say her for the Rumble and she returns
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 10: at the Rumble.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: We'll see, but I would be.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 10: My guess is my speculation is that Bianca will be
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 10: back somewhere at the beginning of twenty twenty six.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I think either that either that Raw or the or
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: the Rumble.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 10: I think one of those two she returns, or maybe
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 10: even SmackDown if they decided to bring her back on SmackDown.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 10: We'll see, but I think the out to January, I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 10: think we'll see Bianca come back.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 13: I feel like SmackDown, like there's a lot of unfinished
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 13: business on SmackDown for her and probably a more likely
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 13: home own for her because I think Monday Night Raw
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 13: is kind of loaded right now as far as storyline,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 13: like female storyline talent.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you. I'm between the two.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 10: The only reason why I even mentioned raws because again,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 10: they it seems like they're building up that January fifth
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 10: show to be something big, so there's a possibility of that,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 10: But I would probably still lean more towards her coming
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 10: back on SmackDown. Definitely SmackDown needs it. That women's roster
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 10: over there is lacking, and I agreed, Yeah, and probably
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 10: she's My guess is she's probably gonna come back and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 10: they're gonna build up towards her versus Jade Cargill at
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 10: WrestleMania for the ww Women's title. That's my that's my
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 10: early speculation.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 13: We shall say that, we shall.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 10: So let's move on from the Talk of the Women
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 10: to the final match of the Knights, the men's wargame
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 10: match featuring the Vision bron Breaker Bronson, Reid, Logan.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Paul Drew McIntyre and Brock Lesner.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 10: Facing the team of Seeing Punk Cody Rhodes, Jimmy and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 10: j Usso and our tribal Chief Roman Reigns. This match
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: was a letdown in my opinion, just because that much
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 10: star power and we got as about as basic of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 10: a war games as we could get. I mean, there
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 10: were some things that were noteworthy, the like you know unk,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 10: you know, got some color. He was bleeding a little bit,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 10: but that was all dried up by the end of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 10: the match, But for the early part mid match, yeah,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 10: him bleeding was noteworthy. Him taking a pretty sizeable beat
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 10: down as well. Really, this whole match seemed to be
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 10: pretty well dominated by the Vision for most of it,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 10: and a part of that was a lot of that
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 10: had to do with them having the numbers advantage.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Given that uh you know, uh.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 10: They had won the match going into it to determine
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 10: who would have the you know, the the advantage, which
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 10: definitely they took. Made the most of it because they was.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 10: They beating the tar out the baby Faces for a
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 10: good chunk of the match, But other than that, it
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 10: just seemed rather basic. Hey, somebody would come in, hit
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 10: some spots, a little bit of beat down, all right,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 10: bringing the next all right, they get they spots in,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 10: things are even up out, their faces are even all right,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 10: bringing it next to him, all right, Now they're getting
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 10: their spots, they get the beat down. Like I can't
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 10: think of any real memorable moment from this match other
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 10: than one that irked the living shit out of me,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 10: and that was Jay running it back in the middle
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: of the fucking War Games match.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: Bro, don't even get me, like, yeah, right, we're.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 10: Going in on this because I get it. I get
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 10: it that, Yes, it's popular, I get that everybody likes it.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 10: I'm a j guy obviously, as y'all heard from the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 10: beginning of the show, it's the music I come out to.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: I call myself. Main event dre Uso. He's my guy,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: but god damn it, this is motherfucking war games. This
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be a fight, y'all are.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 10: Supposed to be settling beef. It's you and them dudes
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 10: going the fuck at it. Ain't nobody got time for
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 10: you to be running back your fucking theme in the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 10: middle of a goddamn match and you climbing up to
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 10: stay up on occasion head banging at the top of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 10: the what the absolute fuck.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: M I get it that everybody.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 10: I get it as popular with the people in the arena,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 10: But there's a time and a place for that, and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 10: fucking war games, ain't it.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the people in the arena loved it, though, like, yeah,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: run it back, Yeah, we gonna get it.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 10: I think if if you had done this in the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: middle of like if this would have been like a
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 10: regular Survivor series classic elim classic Svivier series elimination match
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 10: and he did this.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't be bothered by it.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 10: But they did it in fucking games, fucking war games
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 10: like it irked me to the point that I almost
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 10: feel like they should If this is the type of shitnanigans,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 10: we're gonna get just do away with the war games
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 10: match because it clearly don't it clearly ain't what it
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 10: used to be, not that it really, at least in
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 10: the past couple of years, it still felt some semblance
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 10: of real beef intension between the two sides, even if
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 10: the action didn't always quite measure up. But I mean,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: we've gotten some great men's war games in the matches
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 10: in the past, like.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: The blood Line versus what was it? What was Kevin
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Owens and them? The one where.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 10: Uh where Sammy's ain turned on well fully turned on
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 10: Kevin and solidified himself as a member of the blood Line.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 13: And was that I would say the first one, wasn't it.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 10: I think that might have been the first main roster
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 10: men's war games. Yeah, okay, but I mean, like in retrospect,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 10: like that's a I won't say it's a classic war games,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 10: but it's damn near one, probably the best one that
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 10: they've had on the men's on the main roster so far.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 10: And we've gone from that to this that's a hey,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 10: run back my theme in the middle of a match.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 10: I was so happy when Brox music hit in the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 10: middle of that shit, Like, yes, Brock, please come put
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 10: it into this bullshit.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at right now. Yeah, it irritated the shit
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: out of me. It really irritated me.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 10: Like again, there's a and especially Jay, if you're supposed
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 10: to be taking seriously like I'm not just my theme,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 10: I'm more than my theme. This didn't fucking help it, right,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 10: This did not help it. The fact that you, even
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 10: in the middle of a War Games match, you can't
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 10: help but run back your theme, not doing yourself any
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: favors here.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: At all.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: And I could, I could, I could go on about it.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 10: Like I said, the match itself was nothing noteworthy. The
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 10: vision one who got who got the fucking pan? Oh yeah,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 10: Brian uh speared the funk out of uh Punk and
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 10: oh yeah, God be it.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I'd be remiss.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 10: Man in black who came in out of nowhere, scaled
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 10: the cage, looked to see him, Punk kicked him in
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 10: the face, stomped him, which then led to.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: Bron Breaker's spear in the pen.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 10: We could spend time and try to speculate on who
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: was the man in black, Who's the best person who
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 10: could have Possibly it's Austin theory.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Goddamn it. We all know it's awesome.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 10: Theory like Andy point of Dragon, it ain't a point
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 10: of thinking like could No, it's not Seth he's still injured.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: It ain't him, could be Mantius for I hope it's
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: not montest for it.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: I was like, why would that? Where would that even
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: come from? Like he's so left field, you know, and
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: if montes Forward turn heel, That's not how I'd want
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: it done. So to me, I was like, where then
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: did that rumor come from?
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly?
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 10: And to me, montes Ford can stand on his own
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 10: as an individual. I don't want him to join the
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 10: Vision and basically get lost within that faction.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's clear at.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: This point now that the Vision is pivoting towards pushing
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 10: bron Breaker to the forefront as the leader of this
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 10: group and the guy, which means Bronson Reed probably is
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 10: about to take a bit of a back seat for
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 10: a while. And anybody else who continues as part of
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 10: this faction moving forward, presumably Logan Paul I guess is
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 10: in now since he was on Raw with them afterwards,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 10: like these guys will be shown, sure they'll be featured,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 10: but it's very clear that bron Breaker is alpha in
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 10: this group now, and I don't want to see Montest
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 10: for somebody who I think could equally stand as an
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: alpha or has that potential being the backseat guy in
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 10: a faction like this, if he's gonna go heal or
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 10: be solo, then he'd let him stand on his own.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 10: So I mean, yeah, I love the black was awesome theory.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I love the arguments of people who are like,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: oh it was Chris Jericho. I was like, are you
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: out of your fucking mind? Are you out of here?
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: First off?
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Uh, let me let me just climb in the cage
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: that damn fast.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: Dude, There's no way, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Jericho is
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: fifty five years old. Chris Jercho is not scaling that
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: cage that fucking fast. No, even so like.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Down from it.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 10: Would be taking the most gingerly climbed on that cage exactly.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: Like And I here's the thing too, It's like, if
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: even if it was Jericho, why why would it be
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: to what take over the vision? No, like you said,
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: you just said, bron Is is definitely being pushed as
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: the new leader, which I'm completely fine with with with
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: After his promo this week on Raw, you know like absolutely, man, uh,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: this match, this match they pinning the world champion, being
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: the last guy on your team or to pin to
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: make the you know, the last finisher and to end it,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: to end War Games, like pinning the world champs a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: big deal. We got we got a little bit of blood.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: Durn't match. You're right, we got Punk. I think that's
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: the only blood we got at all during War Games, right,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: just punk.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 13: Did he? Yeah? He did on the side of is
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 13: when he was hanging out of the bus. The bottom
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 13: steps of the bus left him.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 13: Right there.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was there in the build up though that
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't there in the match itself, right.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, before Okay, so before War Games officially started,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 13: like all the members were in the cage, Yeah, is
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 13: when it happened. But uh, I feel like it was
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 13: not to start getting into my side of things or
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 13: anything yet.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 12: But I think his blood was drawn out more like
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 12: it was.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: It went on longer than I'm seeing punks did. But
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 13: I'll elaborate on that later.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we got Cody doing the top rope
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: off the cage with with you know, not being led
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: into the just the same thing as the women's spot
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: with AJ like, oh, you're not a loud and then
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: we're gonna keep the door shut. We're gonna hold it
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: shut the entire match. So they had him him scale it, dude,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: you know, jump off the top, dude, Brown Breaker almost
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: broke his fucking neck. He almost became brown broken fucking neck.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: Holy shit. I I can't recall what move it was again.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: It was a soup lex or no no, no doomsday device
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: that's right with punk and Cody Roads. Holy shit. I
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: reround it and had to watch it twice because I
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: was like, oh God, oh god, here's another man who's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: gonna be on the injured roster, Like, oh my god,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: I cringe. You know, you know, damn well Stone Cold
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 4: was watching it, He's probably like, oh, goddamn, like like dropped,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: throw on that stack doves you call a neck Like.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 10: Goddamn, worst timing ever. If he'd had a neck injury.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: Is absolutely being in his twenties, having a neck injury
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: would have put him on the shelf maybe his entire
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: fucking career. You would have had him sitting right nex.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: And where he's.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: Pencils. Oh yeah, yeah, very exactly. Man being groomed to
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: be the top Dog. No pun is ended, you know.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Then we got Bronson, we got I know, funny, right,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 4: and we got h Bronson reed coming in doing sunamies
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: to everybody. You know, even though that the tsunami originally
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: puts you out for months, you know, it puts you out,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: but not in the War Games match. Logan, Paul asking
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: for the for the for the brass knuckles. You understand
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: that this is war games, right, You don't have to
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: be so secretive about you gotta brought them in with you.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: Nobody was stopping you. Logan, I don't know why you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: had to. You had to go to Paul Hayman like
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: this is we need him now, get them, get the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: brass knucks, and yeah, you slide them all in there
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: all nonchal.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: You could have put them on walking through the ring exactly.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: You coulda double knuckled up, you know, like Roman Reigns
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: could have had those in all time. This is fucking
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: goofy ship like that I thought was funny, dude. Yeah,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: and then I cringed, Man, I fucking cringed when they
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: run it back. You know, just I mean, just imagine
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: if every anytime Tyler, we're in the middle of our show, right,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: and then we get like a little little break in
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: the show, like a little pause in the air, you know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: a little fifteen second pause or something, and then Dress
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: like run it back just all the time, just all
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: the time, just dra just running it back.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 10: Then though we're a podcast, I know it'd be it'd
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 10: be for comedic effect, not for something serious, like what
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 10: war Games is supposed to be.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: I get it. And and Jay this this new character development,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: him being upset that he's losing matches and ship, well,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: maybe you should stop focusing on fucking eating and say
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: your energy and focus on the fucking match, like maybe
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 4: you won't be so tired and you want loose to
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 4: to you know, l a night. Yeah, but uh what
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: else I have written down here? Oh, and then we
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: got brock Lessner right of course, he decimated it. All
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: I thought was great, basically made him look strong in
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: the entire fucking time. I did enjoy when Roman came out,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: how he basically like, you know, did the one thing
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: I guess you're not supposed to do is leave the cage,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: like you know where I guess there's no fucking rules
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: in wargans, right, you can just up and leave the
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: leave the cage whenever you want. For these guys met
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: you know, in the in the aisle and on the
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: table before the match he even started, and then Roman
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: got to hold the brass nucklets, which I thought was
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: great Superman punches all around. Uh, the mask man, it
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: was such a shit ending. Did we really really need
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: to have a masked character? Dan who? By the way,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: no payoff yet. It's it's now Thursday, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: it is Thursday. The pay per view was on Saturday.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: We had Monday Night Raw, and normally during the pl
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 4: E is when we normally would get the the reveal,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: the curve stomp, and then the pulling off of the mask. Right,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: that's how you get the big fucking pop. That's how
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: you send people home excited, like now where we're gonna
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: go with this person and this group? But no, we're like, okay,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: so TRIPLEH is like money not raw, is gonna be
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: epic to tune in? How I'm thinking, all right, we're
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: gonna finally see who this mass fucker is. Right, No, I.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Guess another thing that kind of just peel. You're just
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: kind of ending on a wet fart. You're like Okay,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: stop out, he's going.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's it, Tyler, come on man, chime man.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: What do you think about this match?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 13: It was was freaking like buzzing with anticipation at the start.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 13: And I think, you know, like we alluded to earlier,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 13: lack of cages, you seem pretty evident. Maybe I was
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 13: the only one that thought so from the beginning who
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 13: the last two petitors were going to be. I think
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 13: they did a better job of making it more unpredictable
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 13: with the women's match, but this one kind of felt
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 13: like as it would go, if you were trying to
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 13: guess in what order they would come in, you know
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 13: what I mean, as opposed to watching to the two
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 13: factions in the cage bickering and you know, the discussion
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 13: amongst themselves about who's going to go next and all
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 13: that stuff. Women more unpredictable as opposed to the men,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 13: where it was, uh maybe slight variations if you if
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 13: you took a poll to who was going to be
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 13: next in what particular order? You know, and and to
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 13: like you had mentioned earlier, when about you know, the babies,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 13: the baby faces being decimated because of the heels having
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 13: that that man advantage you know, it was it was
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 13: a pretty straightforward dominant match. You know, the spot with
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 13: bron breaker and the doomsday device. That kind of struck me.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 13: The way he landed, that kind of struck me of
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 13: big ease injury, you know. And so for a minute
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 13: after he had landed and he's like finally rolled off
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 13: to the side, I'm thinking, like, shit, he's probably lit
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 13: up pretty good. Like that's a serious injury, you know.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 13: And that was the first person to come to mind
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 13: was Biggie and to kind of touch on a previous
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 13: match earlier, when Dominic took that spot on the outside
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 13: of the ring. That was the only thing I could
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 13: have thought was wrong with him was the back of
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 13: his head coming down on that matt not so much
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 13: as shoulder. But he did a good job of saving
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 13: it and selling it as a stree. So back to
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 13: the war game, the Men's War game. Yeah, you know,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 13: Sampunk gets busted open and he leaked for probably all
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 13: of thirty seconds. You know, I don't think they did
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 13: a really good job. If that was supposed to be
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 13: a moment that was like, oh shit, he's busted open.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 13: You know, what are we going to do? They didn't
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 13: really do a good job of focusing on it and
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 13: making it a point of shock for the fans. Tody's injury,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 13: injury getting reo opened and him bleeding, that was more prominent,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 13: you know than punks. I think.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 12: In as far as like.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 13: Big pop moments like we've had in the past, with
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 13: like maybe Randy Orton showing up or trazy moves off
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 13: the top of the cage, or you know, a good
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 13: sequence of moves and blows and exchanges. You didn't get
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 13: that with this match. So I almost want to tie
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 13: it for the number four spot and not even leave
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 13: anything in the number three spot. But you know, I'll
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 13: put it in the number three spot overall.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 12: As far as.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 13: Theories as to who the man in black could be,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 13: I think the person in black was far too stocky
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 13: to be a montes Ford.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 13: No, if if w W goes so far as to
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 13: invest in patting, you know, or anything like that to like,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 13: you know, maybe do a deep fake out, doubt it.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 13: Uh So, with that being said, I doubt it's montese Ford.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 13: I kind of doubted uh Austin Derry for a little bit,
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 13: and then you know, they somebody did a comparison of
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 13: the his backbuild, and it's almost a match contour for
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 13: contour as far as his muscular build on his back.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: You can stay his butt, dude. We don't judge here.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: I wasn't. People were comparing their butts.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 13: Chores, but to uh yeah, and my initial I'm gonna
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 13: be one of those people. You know, I'm going to
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 13: admit that I was one of those people. At first,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 13: it was like, oh my god, it's Seth Ronald, because
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 13: you had sold on the stomp, you know, you had
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 13: me sold on the stomp.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 13: And then well until afterwards, I did some research and
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 13: found out that he'd only just had his shoulder surgery,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 13: So there was no way in hell it's wrong exact.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 12: You know, he's he's on the table for a little bit.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 13: You know, if they do involve him, it'll probably just
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 13: be promo work and that's it. They're not going to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 13: put he's like one of their their guys. They're not
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 13: going to go and put him in any physical situation
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 13: where he could either reaggravate his injury or you know,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 13: incur a new injury along the road. They're not going
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 13: to do that. I and Austin theory possibly because him
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 13: and Seth do have that connection, you know during the
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 13: COVID era when you know, it was Seth and he
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 13: was the Monday at Messiah and he had Austin theory
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 13: and Buddy Murphy I want to say his name was
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 13: then he's Buddy Matthews now in aw but you know,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 13: and he was doing the disciples thing and they took
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 13: Ray out. So there is that connection there. As far
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 13: as who else it could be, no idea, I can't.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 13: I couldn't think of any other connection you know, to
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 13: to anybody that's currently in the vision or was previously
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 13: in the vision, to who that person could and just
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 13: the over like just the finisher itself for Cmpunk and
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 13: depending everything like that was very just like it was
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 13: like they were in a rush, you know what I mean,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 13: And it was just like, okay, we got to do this.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 13: Boom boom boom boom.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: Done.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 13: That's it. There was no like build up to it.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 13: Everybody gets a chance to do their finisher on the
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 13: last guy standing because you know, through their guys got
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 13: wiped out through a table or whatever. So it was
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 13: like it just felt very rushed and like there wasn't
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 13: any thought put into the execution and I was disappointed
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 13: to see that. You know, if i'd have if i'd
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 13: have been there, you know in person, you know, what
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 13: the hell is demanding a refund going to do? But
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 13: I probably would have been tempted to ask because it
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 13: was just for that match alone, not worth it at all.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 13: So yeah, number number three, Yeah.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think, like I said, that's all valid points.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: One thing of note though, about as far as the
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 10: Man in Black, Austin Theory has been long since rumored
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: to be joining the Vision anyway, and I think that
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 10: was something that was planned on happening prior to seth
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 10: rollins injury, and that's kind of what's caused us pivot
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 10: in the plans and probably led to a pushback or
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 10: delay in Theory joining the Vision because they have obviously
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 10: had to pivot and re establish the group in a
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 10: different context with seth Rollins being out of the picture. Also,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 10: since let's not forget it's the Vision that kicked seth
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 10: Rollins out of the Vision, it was brawning them that
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 10: attacked him, So why the hell would he show up
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 10: to war games and help them win? Like that's just
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 10: not even consistent with seth Rollins character. Yeah, these dudes
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 10: are going to beat my ass and put me on
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 10: the shelf and then I come back and help them. No,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 10: even if it even if it means screwing over Sea
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 10: and punk like, no, none of that makes any sense
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: for Seth Rollins.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've heard rumors that they were going to
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: add Austin theory regardless, Like this is before Seth even
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: got injured.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 10: You know that was yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 10: like Austin theory. Joining the Vision is something that was
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 10: already going to happen. It was just a matter when
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 10: it happened, because it was changed because Seth Robins got
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 10: injured and reworked their plans.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: As surprised legit like Logan Paul joining the Vision didn't
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: see that coming, didn't see it sticking together after after
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: War Games, like we talked about the other year. What
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: if you know, Bronson Reed never got injured after War Games.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: He may have stayed with the bloodline after that and
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: continued on you know who knows injuries duty.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, that's that's that's so what if I'll always
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 10: be thinking about because again, Ronson Reid and Jacob Botu
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 10: looked perfect together.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: Dangerous fucking team. Also, I heard Jacob should be coming
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: back soon.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 13: What's that Wayne says something about coming back. I'm interested
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 13: on that now.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The reports Jacob is on
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: his way back, So I mean, I would expect the
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 4: Rumble being the best time for you know, somebody like
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: that to return, tossing out the man who knocked his
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: teeth out, so suppose revenge.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, he is another one that's poised to come back.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 10: So I guess we're pretty much done with this p
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 10: l E. It's it was underwhelming.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: I think I was done with it before before it ended,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 4: like I was done in the middle of it. I
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: think I think.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 13: For the Man's royal wronga.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: It was like since Jay started running it back, I
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm done. I'm ready to go to bed.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 10: I was fucking done, all right, might get the fun out.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep.
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 4: What was that.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 13: I said? I thought you started napping like sometime during
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 13: the Stephanie and Nikki match.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 12: If I'm if I'm being honest, like I just looked over.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: Oh man, well do you fucking blame me? Do you
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 4: blame me? I mean, the the only reason why I
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: missed so much that was going on during that men's
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: War Games match is because I had my fucking hands
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: in my you know, my head in my hands, like,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 4: oh god, again, we're running it back, Oh God, like
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: like in the middle of the match. You know what.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 4: Let's let's don't at all. I would love to move
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: on here and talk about this one thing that popped
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: up in the news today. So I'm I'm gonna play
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 4: you guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna play you
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 4: guys a clip, right, and I don't play only a
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 4: few seconds of it. And I want you to tell
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 4: me what that clip? What ww entrance theme? Does this
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: sound like?
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 11: Anyway?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 4: Figure it out. I'll play it again.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 13: I couldn't hear anything, Yeah I did.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear a thing.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you guys did hear a thing? Wait, let
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 4: me turn up. You can hear it now.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 13: A little bit. But it's like only when you talk, okay,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 13: does it come through?
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 10: It's the way discord is set up, like music doesn't really.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: I think music gets.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 10: Kind of filtered out, so it's hard to hear voices
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 10: come through five and music.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 4: Gets filtered so well, anyway.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: Even if you play it, we're not really gonna be
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: able to hear it anyway.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 4: John Cena and WWE and TKO sued over iconic themes
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: songs alleged use of unlicensed horn sample.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 12: So basically, oh yeah, I earlier today.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it'll show up. You can probably hear
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: it on the podcast. But a little bit do a
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 4: little little little bit. And the thing is, I guess
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 4: they Yeah, they dealt with it in two fifteen. In
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: twenty fifteen, the they settled for fifty grand, but now
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: claims should be thrown out because it withheld information about
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 4: the long term use of the track, including its use
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 4: in a Toyota national ad campaign that aired just two
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 4: days after the deal was signed. Really, like, you're really
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 4: gonna dispute this now, like two weeks out of his
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 4: retirement match like a little late, you know, I mean,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 4: I get it. You're gonna do what you gotta do. God, yeah,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 4: do you remember you remember when YEAT was owned by
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 4: some indie wrestler. Boy, was that a dumb fucking mistake
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 4: getting rid of that. I don't know how much money
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 4: we just got paid.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 13: Think the girl who like started that, like try suing
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 13: WWE as like the originator of the yeat catchphrase.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: So was it a woman?
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a mail It was a male, Yeah,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 4: it was a male wrestler.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 10: Then for like what two weeks or something, they took
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 10: away Jay's yeat and then they realized, oh, ship, we
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 10: fucked up, and then they quickly settled up with the person.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 13: Yep, shit, you were right, we need this.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: Jeez.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 13: That's like, which is kind.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 10: Of weird how somebody could even copyright How that person
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 10: could even try to claim copyright on yeek because yeat
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 10: is not new at all, like yeating or that has
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 10: been around since the two thousands.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 4: Since the early two thousands.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 13: Like a lot.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 10: You know, I was in college in the South in
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 10: two thousands and we were saying and we would say yeat.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 4: So you were yeating back in college.
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 10: Like yeah, y ain't nothing new at all, Like this
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 10: is not something that was just recently discovered. We would
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 10: be done, like I said, like we would say that
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 10: ship in the like all you like remember legit early
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 10: two thousands. I was in college when we were saying that, hmm.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 13: Lack of lack of probably knowledge on my part. Then
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 13: I'll talk after that. And I thought this was something
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 13: that was like fresh, like maybe in the last two
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 13: to three years, you know what I mean, something something
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 13: that w W just just capitalized on real quick.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, well I wouldn't say the w W because
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 10: I mean it's probably something that originated with Jay and them.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 10: Like I think jay Z even said in the interviews, like.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: Like he's been saying the yat. They've been doing the
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: yat thing for years.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 10: They just you know, just decided to incorporate it in
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 10: his character and it took off and and such. But yeah,
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 10: yeaton ain't nothing new, Yeah I was. I was jokingly like,
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 10: people who think yeating is new are probably the same
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 10: people who think Miley Cyrus invented working.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, get the fuck out of here. Ship.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 4: All right, let's I want to talk about this raw
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 4: real quick. So what is notably one thing that you
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 4: know that that's really popular after I don't know, war
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 4: games helen to sell Elimination Chamber a TLC match the
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 4: next night. What are you supposed to be selling besides merchandise?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 4: Fucking injuries? Nobody had injuries to sell at all from
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 4: war games but didn't know.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: What the funk happened in war games that was injury worthy.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 4: I know, and didn't that blood The.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 10: Only person who who should be selling any kind of
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 10: injury would have been the dude who dawn near broke
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 10: his fucking neck.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 4: I know, right, he should come out, dude. Could you
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: imagine if he would have cut that promo with that
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: neck brace on? I don't think I would have taken
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 4: him very serious. Uh So, I guess now we're having
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: Ria and EO or like officially a tag team, like
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: no more going for the women's world titles. I like,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 4: fuck that, right, Like, let's put him in a tag team.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 4: I guess so we're gonna have it works with Charlotte
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: and Alexa. I don't think it's gonna work with EO
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: and Rhea. They already get along.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: I why not.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd rather see them both. I'd rather
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: see either of them going for a world title. I
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know if I really I think all
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, our women's tag team division is gonna
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 4: get super saturated with like just all these tag teams.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 4: Now we have that, we have these two teams, and
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 4: we also have Lash Legend and Naya is now a
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 4: tag team. You know, we still got the KOUBOOKI Warriors.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 4: Of course. I just think we're gonna get a lot more,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: all right, I mean it works, it works, right, I
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 4: mean I don't know. I guess maybe I'm on the
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: I'm on that, I'm on the half full. Like I
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 4: don't think I'm getting I'm already gonna be bored with
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 4: his tag team. Like I liked Alexa and Charlotte because
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 4: there was they were bumping heads a little trying to
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 4: make it work, do you I I much rather just
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 4: Ceo and Ria in a in a world title picture.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 4: That's all. That's all well.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 10: I was like, if you if you're seeing a problem
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 10: with all these women in the tag team division, I
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 10: gotta say I respectfully disagree. I think the women's tag
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 10: team division has finally become lit. Finally, like the way
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 10: that ship ended on RAW, I was like excited all
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 10: these women came out and I'm like, oh over the
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 10: women's tag titles, the most forgotten arguably some of the
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 10: most forgotten belts in WWE. And now we got all
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 10: these women coming after it, and finally, this women's tag
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 10: team division is going to be interesting. Finally, this women's
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 10: these belts will become prominently featured because we'll have big
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 10: named women going after it. I am one hundred percent
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 10: on board with what they're doing right now with this.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: I am with it. Let's go.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 10: This will be being prominent to that, and it frees
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 10: up other women to be in the World Title Picture
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 10: because it's the one thing I nobody. I don't believe
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 10: anybody should live permanently in the World Title Picture, right nobody.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: Everybody has.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 10: Everybody has to step away from it at some point
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 10: because if you're constantly living in that World Title Picture,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 10: eventually it's going to get boring because you're either challenging
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 10: and losing or you're winning and defending.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: You can't just be all that.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 10: Like The Rock took a step away for a while,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 10: made Rocking Sock connection him and Meg Foley, and it
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 10: worked and it was and it was fabulous. You know,
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 10: Stone Cold stepped away from the World Title Picture sometimes
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 10: just to maybe not for tag team reasons, but to
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 10: feud with other people. So somebody, people like Riha and Eo,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 10: who already have a nickname for their pairing rio. You know,
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 10: people have been shipping it together them together for the
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 10: longest and now they finally say like, yeah, We're just
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 10: gonna keep going in this.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Tag team thing and go after them.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 10: Tag titles does nothing but elevate the tag division and
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 10: put a spotlight on these criminally underutilized belts.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah so, and then get involved in it.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 10: Charlotte and Alexa get involved in it real, Roquel and
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 10: Live or some combination of them three getting involved in it,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 10: Bookie Warriors getting involved in it, like.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: This shit about to be popping, I'm here for it.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 10: And that's a and and you know, don't let us
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 10: you know, we remiss if we don't mention the fact
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 10: that they.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 1: Put on a fucking banger of a match in the
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: main event of Raw.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 10: Women's Tag match was a banger. So before all the
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 10: interference came in.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: Would you say that moment, the way Raw ended, was
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 4: your what you think that's what Triple A was talking
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 4: about epic? Was that what you saw happening being your
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 4: epic moment?
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I have long since learned to
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 10: tune out the hyperbole that Triple AH speaks with on things.
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: So when he says, Oh.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 10: This world is gonna be epic, I'm like, Okay, I
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 10: believe it when I see it. Disappointed, right, if You're
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 10: only disappointed if you believe them. If you don't believe them,
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 10: then you ain't got to worry about it.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be epic, Yeah, epic and lowercase letters. Sure.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: And as far as this raw, was this raw epic? No?
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 10: And again if it was epic, it was epic in
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 10: lowercase letters. There was definitely some things out that came
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 10: out of this. To talk about. One, the women's tag division.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 10: I think that was dope. Where they're going with that.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 10: That's probably about to be the most interesting thing in
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 10: the women's division going forward for a while because Women's
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 10: US title ain't shit happen in there, Women's in a
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 10: Continental title, probably ain't gonna be much happening there. Ww
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 10: Women's title until they give a Jade a credible opponent,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 10: ain't nothing happening there. Women's World title again until Stephanie
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 10: gets a credible challenger, ain't gonna be much happening there.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 10: So where's all the action about to be in the
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 10: women's division In them tag teams? So that's so I'm
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 10: cool with that.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: We had the.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 10: Men's World tag team match. You know, speaking of tag
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 10: team belts, that ain't shit happening with aj about saying
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 10: aj Lee, well, fucking aj Lee. Aj Styles and Dragon
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 10: Lee had a pretty decent match with New Day and
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 10: we got a classic We're not a classic, A one
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 10: of the most creative that's the word. I was looking
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 10: for creative styles classes that I was seen in a while.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: That was a dope spot, enough to make a whole
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: show epic.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 10: No dope spot that kind of went somewhat viral on
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 10: the socials. Sure, and then we got bron Breaker cutting
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 10: his promo, which some people were being very hyperbolic about
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 10: talking about who's the best promo. It's the best promo
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 10: that bron that Broun Breaker has never cut. Yes, you know,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 10: he had a personal best with that promo, but as
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 10: far as overall promos, it was still just kind of okay,
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 10: not to mention the fact that, you know, puberty kicked
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 10: in towards the tail end of his promo. He went
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 10: squeaker on us. So yeah, but for him it was
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 10: a dope pro It was a good promo. It was
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 10: a very strong promo. He definitely set the tone there
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 10: for him and Seth and I mean for him and
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 10: seeing punking his few going forward and props to Logan
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 10: Paul for catching the mic after Brown after bron bounced
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 10: it off the ring.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: That was all he need to cut Rossion as a
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: check for that.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: Damn uh Tyler, How excited were you when you got
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 4: to see the the Natalia and Maxine Dupree hype video.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot all about that, so lucky.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 4: You, lucky you.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 13: I did not get a chance to watch for aw
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 13: you know, unfortunately I missed it. I will what I
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 13: will comment on. However, it was like the women's tag division.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 13: I do know that for a little bit there, maybe
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 13: a over a year ago, maybe you're a year and
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 13: a half, two years Max, I would say there was
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 13: an oversaturation of women's tag teams in in WWE. I
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 13: think they were more prominent on raw, but you know,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 13: across the brands, they there was just a lot of
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 13: women's tag teams and then it just felt like, over
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 13: the course of a quick month, they all disappeared and
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 13: then it was just a bunch of singles competitors and
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 13: now they're you know, teaming up, they're bigger stars. Didn't
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 13: see EO and Riha becoming a thing. Rio didn't really
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 13: see that becoming like a permanent thing. Yeah, was surprised
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 13: that Charlotte and Alexa haven't taken a turn. I'll just
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 13: throw that out there. I'm surprised it hasn't taken a
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 13: turn yet because I thought for sure that by now
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 13: would have happened. But uh, you know, I think they're,
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 13: you know, much to what Dra said earlier, they're they're
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 13: they're pairing them up, which is good because it gives
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 13: a talent that, like we touched on earlier, Roxane Perez,
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 13: who has been a tertiary character, well now she doesn't
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 13: have to fight with an EO Aria, a Charlotte.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 12: Who's typically in a championship conversation.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 13: It gives somebody like her or Rock Sand I'm sorry
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 13: with Quel, you know, that chance to go out there
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 13: and maybe take a run at a title, whether it's
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 13: they see United States, World whatever. You know. So maybe
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 13: there are a few up and comers that can prove
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 13: they have what it takes to be a main event star.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 13: And you know, this is who I am. I want
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 13: this belt. You know, where's everybody else at That's about
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 13: all I can really say as far as anything else,
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 13: as far as what happened on Monday Night Raw. Unfortunately,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 13: I will bound myself out of any comments or opinions,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 13: because it's not I wouldn't be would be fair for
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 13: me to say.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 4: True, because well, that's a good I was gonna say,
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: because the way I want to close this out, I
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 4: want to discuss the last time and now tournament semi finals.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 10: Okay, sorry before broken, before you before we transition to that.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 10: That is a great point you bring up about with
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 10: about a character like Roxanne possibly pursuing a singles title,
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 10: and yeah, this kind of frees her up to do that.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 10: Although if I was to speculate, given that they all
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 10: got involved in the whole scuffle at the end, my
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 10: guess would be that probably we'll see Roxanne and Raquel
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 10: in the mix in this tag team thing and going
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 10: back to whichever one of y'all mentioned earlier as far
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 10: as Live being back within the judgment day and them
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 10: the women now pursuing belts. If I had to speculate,
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 10: we will probably see Roxanne and Raquel as a tag
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 10: team again, mixed up with all the others and Live
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 10: Morgan might be the first real credible challenger that we
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 10: see as she challenges Stephanie Vaquier for the women's world
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 10: title because one thing we did see on Raw was
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 10: albeit a brief liv Morgan did introduce herself to Stephanie
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 10: Vaquier and I don't think that moment happened for nothing.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 10: That's probably what we're gonna get is Live pursuing the
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 10: women's world title against Stephanie Vicaire and while Roxanne and
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 10: Raquel go after the women's tag titles.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: Which you know, if out of all.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 10: These big name stars that are in the mix, if
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 10: Roxanne and Raquel are the ones that come out on top, that's.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: A big boon to them.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 10: If they say, if you know, they can say we
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 10: came out on top with Ria and EO in the mix,
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 10: with Charlotte and Alexa in the mix, with Lash and
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 10: Naya in the mix, possibly possibly mhm. And if you know,
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 10: Rock Sande and Raquel are the ones who end up
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 10: coming out on top, Yo, kudos to them.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 13: Now here's a quick question. Did Live to relinquish her
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 13: title or did she lose that.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 10: Live she lost the title, Yeah, she lost she injured
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 10: her arm, she lost the title. God, she lost the
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 10: title a while back. She has been Women's World champion
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 10: in a while. She lost it to Rhea. Rea lost
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 10: it to EO EO lost it uh to Naomi and
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 10: then and Naomi had to relinquis ship.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah when she got pregnant.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 11: Mm hmm.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: But I'll also say.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 10: It's worth going on YouTube and watching that segment, that
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 10: vignette with Maxine and uh Natalia. I thought that was
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 10: a really, really well done vignette.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 13: I have to do that right after this.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sure it's on their YouTube. It was actually
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 10: really well done. I thought it was a dope little
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 10: vignette made. Vaccine looked tough. Almost gave you shades of
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 10: that the herd Dungeon gave you, you know, he gave
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 10: echoes of that. And Natalia she and that point. But
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 10: she looks like a tough badass in that vignette. And
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 10: as I said in the discord, if that's the Natty
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 10: we get back on screen whenever she, you know, comes
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 10: back on screen on WWE television, if that's the Natty
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 10: we get, I'm here for it. That Like, that's the
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 10: type of Natty that could actually go toe to toe
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 10: with these women in the division and not just show
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 10: up just to take an al every week. Mma, Natty,
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 10: she could get a little she could get a lilt
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 10: of a revival if she incorporates in made Natty into
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 10: her character and not.
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 12: A way instead of just changing her outfit.
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 10: Right, yeah, it could be a whole like I mean,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 10: the outfit of coincide with a character change or repackaging
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 10: of her and sure as being like this real tough.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: Ass grappler o g status as.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 10: Opposed to just you know, I'm I'm old enhancement talent
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 10: coming out here in a pink and my black and
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 10: taking mm hmm black singlet up in there and get
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 10: the scrapping with these women that Natty I'm here for.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to That's all I wanted to add.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 4: On to the uh raw cool, cool, cool.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: One last thing. Oh now you gonna talk about it now.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say solo guns are match banging.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 4: Ye I didn't. I was. I was very happy with
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 4: that match, just the turnout of both of these. I mean,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 4: Jay Usas didn't get the job done, he got he
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 4: got pinned, he got rolled up. Man. I think, uh,
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 4: I think I like the idea better of l A.
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 4: Knight and versus Gunter, you know, and I totally agree,
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 4: man I I I enjoyed the Gunther solo match because
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 4: is you got two heels going against each other, like
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 4: what heel is going to go over? Gunthro was more
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 4: of a face durness match because Gunther never really cheats
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 4: in his matches. He's, uh, who was beat your ass clean?
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 4: So to see him, you know, doing a little dirty
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 4: work to get the job done. But if solo does it, like,
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 4: why can't I write? So just going forward? Here we
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 4: got l A Knight versus Gunter either or man, Like,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, I much rather see
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 4: La Knight versus John Cena because La Knight isn't going
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 4: to be a world champion anytime soon. I don't think
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 4: he's ever gonna be world champion. And if this is
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 4: the only thing, if this is the one thing you
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 4: can give him short of maybe like a King of
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 4: the ring win or I don't know, money in the
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 4: bank win, Like, at least give him this. Does Gunther
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 4: really need it? Though? Does he like to really pile
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: a on on top of all the other accomplishments. You've
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 4: already retired Goldberg, and I understand, oh it's just Goldberg, Yeah,
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 4: but you've also the longest reigning n xt UK champion,
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 4: the longest reigning intercontinental champion, you know, a multiple time
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 4: world champion. I don't. I just feel like Guther just
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't need it, just another notch in the belt. But
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 4: for a guy like La Knight, who's you know, who
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 4: never will reach those heights, like give him this and.
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 13: If and he's gonna win like King of the Ring
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 13: or money in the bank though, Like you're putting him
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 13: on that same trajectory, right.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, but we've seen it. We've seen people go
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 4: and wing King of the Ring and then not go
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 4: much further than that. We've seen somebody. I look at
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 4: guys like Shinsky Nakamura who's won the Royal Rumble, and
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 4: look where he is now. Man was the first one
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 4: eliminated during SmackDown, being that elimination tournament. His Survivor Series
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 4: match was on SmackDown. Some of these people they go
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 4: far and some don't go very far. But I don't know,
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 4: I just feel like at forty was he like forty
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 4: five or something like the clock's ticking, the clock is
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 4: taken for lay night, you know, goother still got some
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 4: eat no spring chicken, but he still got some time
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 4: left I don't know. I just I know we're not
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 4: gonna get it though, I know unfortunately, I think they're
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 4: gonna give it to Guther. I think that's the plan
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 4: I've been hearing.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: I heard.
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 4: I saw an article Johnston's father is not happy about
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 4: this about Goother getting the opportunity and most likely going over.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, it sucks that it's so like out there already.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 4: You know, maybe we're wrong, maybe they're gonna maybe that's
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 4: what they want us all to think. But like as
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 4: far as a lot of fans know, is like that's
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 4: all we hear is like, oh, it's it's in the bag.
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 4: Gunther's in the bag. I mean, we heard about this
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 4: month ago. I brought you know, I brought this up
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 4: a while ago about you know, there might be a
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 4: rumor about a tournament and the last match might be Goother.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know, Dre, what do you think, man? Like,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 4: what would you have? Do you feel like la Knight
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 4: would deserve it if this is it all he gets?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm in.
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 10: I agree with you completely. I've heard this argument from
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 10: other people as well, that yeah, Gunter doesn't need this
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 10: accolade on his resume and it would be good to
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 10: go to give it to.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: Someone like an l. A. Knight. I mean, I'm in
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: agreement with you there.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 10: I mean, I honestly thought I've said from the beginning
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 10: that his last match should be with someone young, up
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 10: and coming and give them that rub, not necessarily of
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 10: you know, retiring John Cena or you know, I'm I
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 10: retired John Cena.
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: I put John cenaut.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 10: It doesn't have to be about that, but just giving
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 10: them the rub of I was John Cena's last opponent.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: And I had this banger of a match with John Cena.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 10: Just just giving them that platform to work and shine
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 10: and showcase them, and that on a platform that big
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 10: I thought it should go to somebody, a young up
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 10: and comer. You know, my personal picks would have been
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 10: either a Carmelo Hayes or an Oba Femi. Those one
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 10: of those two would have been, you know, my personal
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 10: pick for it. It because both of them are young,
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 10: that next generation of talent, incredibly high upside for the
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 10: both of them. You know, those like I would have
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 10: gone with either one of those two or but obviously
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 10: you know, or it could have been a broad, it
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 10: could have been a bron breaker. But clearly they already
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 10: have plans for bron Breaker. But yeah, obviously they're gonna
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 10: go the safe route with Gunter and it's gonna be
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 10: John Cena versus Gunter. I would like at this point,
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 10: since it's down to those two, I would like if
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 10: they swerve us and surprise us and go with l A.
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: Knight.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 10: I'd be good for that, especially well, i'd be good.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 10: I'll be good with that if it happens. But I
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 10: also it also makes me wish that we that John
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 10: Cena had one more appearance before Saturday Night Maine event,
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 10: just because if we were going to get l A.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 10: Night versus John Cena, I want those two to have
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 10: a promo exchange in the ring. I want them to
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 10: before the match, just to have that face to face
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 10: me and you and have that exchange before the match,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 10: just to give it that extra build up and that
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 10: extra hype. I think that would be far more interesting
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 10: than John Cena versus Gunter. Like again, I don't think
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 10: John Cena versus guns is gonna be a bad matched
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 10: by any means.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's not. It's gonna be a good match.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 10: But I also just have no real interest in it
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 10: other than the fact that it's John Cena's last match
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 10: Gunter to me, adds nothing to the match.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 1: L A.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 10: Knight could actually add something to the match if there
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 10: was time for those two to have an exchange of
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 10: words on the mic leading up to it.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah. Absolutely, I feel like that their promo would be
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 13: very early two thousand's WWE considering LA Knight's like personality
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 13: that you know, when John Cena came into the business,
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 13: he might tap into that younger maybe Selagate pugonomics ish
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 13: John Cena. But you you said, Dre, what I was
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 13: thinking was that somebody like a Carmelo Hayes would have
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 13: been like a breath of fresh air out of we've
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 13: been hearing this whole time. That would have been I
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 13: think a lot more interesting as maybe a final outing
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 13: for John Cena because those guys, I mean, those guys
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 13: already have substantial star power to some extent. You know,
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 13: Godther has already held the championship twice now, the World
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 13: Heavyweight Championship. LA Knight's been United States Championship. They'll probably
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 13: have that again, Uh, maybe more, who knows, But yeah,
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 13: it was I don't know, I don't know how I
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 13: feel about it. Rooting for La Night though I know
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 13: that much.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess we're gonna have to see man. I mean,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's pretty exciting. We're getting We're at the bitter
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 4: end here man. Uh So I guess there's tomorrow on SmackDown.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe we'll find out who this masked man is. I
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 4: fucking doubt it at this point. It might make us
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 4: way to rawl. Uh what else I want to bring up? Oh,
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 4: we have new shirt designs on the store. I did
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 4: put reput up the nWo version and the d X version,
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 4: but they do not have the QR code on the back,
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 4: which makes them also a little bit cheaper not having
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 4: anything printed on the back. And we just have two
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 4: new logos. We're coming up with a bunch of other logos.
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 4: You know, AI is getting a little bit more creative
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 4: and easier to use for me. So I was like
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 4: finding out some cool ways to make new logos for shirts,
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 4: and I think, you know, I'm just for now for
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 4: because I think I might buy myself too, and then
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 4: after Christmas, I'll swap them out to a bunch of
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 4: different ones and maybe rotate them out every month because
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 4: we're allowed to upload multiple designs and run right now,
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 4: run four at a time. But I think we need
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 4: to sell like eighteen more shirts. So we sell eighteen
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 4: more shirts, then we can put every shirt on the store.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 13: Every shirt's start posting.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to definitely.
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: And also I gave up on the shirt design that
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: I liked.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, huh.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: They posted the the green one with they had that
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 1: they had the belt with the mic and them center.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah for sure. Uh yeah. It's it's crazy,
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 4: like uh, it's all the different designs of coming out
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 4: with and being able to take like maybe some pictures
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 4: of us at WrestleMania and animate them, which I thought
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 4: was funny. Uh uh that I have one iprin I
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 4: did the other day of me and the macho man
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 4: like pointing at each other. I thought that was fucking great.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 4: Uh oh. I still got a lot more to play with,
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 4: but like they only allow me to make so many
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 4: a day, which I think is kind of funny. So
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 4: but uh yeah, man, that's it. That's all I got.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 4: Go out there, buy yourself a fucking shirt and it's
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 4: the holidays. Bye by your buy your girlfriend a PCW shirt.
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 4: You know girls out there who I know, I know,
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 4: we have fucking women listeners. I know we do so
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 4: by your boyfriends a fucking PCW shirt. You know who
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 4: you are, uh.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 13: Boyfriend?
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, uh dre you want to plug anything.
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 10: Just as always Instagram, dot com, slash PCW pot kiss very.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 4: Nice, Tyler, thank you for coming back, man, Thank you
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 4: for filling in when Doyle camp. I appreciate it.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 13: Hey, LOLC. I'm always happy to be here, and uh,
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 13: I feel like we have a great conversation every time.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 13: I typically when I come on, but you know, listen
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 13: to these guys go back and forth and you know,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 13: review stuff and bring up stuff in the past.
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 12: Is always cool and I'm glad to be here and
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 12: be a part of it.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 13: So thank you very much for having me.
• 2:35:26
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• 2:35:33
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• 2:35:40
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• 2:35:47
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• 2:35:49
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• 2:35:52
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• 2:35:54
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• 2:35:56
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• 2:36:02
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• 2:36:09
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• 2:36:12
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• 2:36:20
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• 2:36:46
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• 2:37:11
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