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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to kf I AM six forty. The bill
- 0:03Speaker 1: handles show on demand on the iheartradiop.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Fine handle here.
- 0:10Speaker 3: It is a Tuesday morning, July fourteenth. The straight of
- 0:14Speaker 3: Hormuz is closed once again and the war is heating up.
- 0:20Speaker 3: It says if we never had any kind of a
- 0:24Speaker 3: cease fire. Now it's Tech Tuesday. Mike Debuski in today
- 0:31Speaker 3: ABC News Technology reporter. Mike, First of all, thanks for
- 0:35Speaker 3: joining us, and a big statement from Apple saying that
- 0:40Speaker 3: open ai, and this is an interesting quote, is rotten
- 0:45Speaker 3: to its core. Oh, explain that one please.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:48Speaker 4: So, Apple is suing open Ai in federal court. They
- 0:52Speaker 4: filed this lawsuit last Friday alleging that open ai stole
- 0:57Speaker 4: trade secrets. Now, this focus is specific on two former
- 1:01Speaker 4: Apple employees who left that company and joined OpenAI, one
- 1:05Speaker 4: of whom did so this year, and Apple alleges that
- 1:09Speaker 4: these guys surreptitiously accessed hardware related files, including detailed information
- 1:15Speaker 4: about unreleased products. Specifically, we're talking about a guy named
- 1:20Speaker 4: Chang Lu, a former senior system electrical engineer at Apple,
- 1:23Speaker 4: and Tang Tan, a former Apple vice president who is
- 1:27Speaker 4: now open AI's chief hardware officer. The important part of
- 1:31Speaker 4: this story is that while we know Apple to be
- 1:34Speaker 4: the purveyor of things like the iPhone and the iPod,
- 1:37Speaker 4: open Ai, in contrast, is a software company, right they
- 1:40Speaker 4: don't deal in hardware. Well, that is set to change
- 1:43Speaker 4: before the end of the year. They're working on a
- 1:45Speaker 4: lineup of hardware products. They just acquired a hardware company
- 1:48Speaker 4: last year called Io founded by Johnny I've the guy
- 1:52Speaker 4: who designed the iPhone, and they seem to be ready
- 1:55Speaker 4: ing this lineup of gadgets that are designed to get
- 1:58Speaker 4: you to interact with AI in some way. So this
- 2:00Speaker 4: is all sort of germinating out there. Open Ai hiring
- 2:03Speaker 4: a lot of open of Apple talent in order to
- 2:06Speaker 4: get that project off the ground, And now it seems
- 2:09Speaker 4: like those guys weren't just bringing sort of intellectual know how,
- 2:12Speaker 4: they were bringing actual trade secrets. According to this lawsuit,
- 2:15Speaker 4: these guys exploited a loophole in Apple's internal security systems,
- 2:20Speaker 4: specifically known as a zero day vulnerability. At one point,
- 2:23Speaker 4: Liu wrote, lol, I found out I can access the
- 2:26Speaker 4: network storage. So funny, to which an open ai employee responded,
- 2:31Speaker 4: I'm ready. They also asked job candidates who were still
- 2:34Speaker 4: employed at Apple at the time, to bring over hardware
- 2:38Speaker 4: componentry from Apple to the job interview in an effort
- 2:41Speaker 4: to solicit more information about how Apple builds things. This all, ultimately,
- 2:46Speaker 4: Apple says, boils down to illegal activity. They say they're
- 2:50Speaker 4: big claim. Really is that open AI's nascent hardware business
- 2:54Speaker 4: now rests on the shakiest of foundations, rotten to its
- 2:57Speaker 4: core by its illegal reliance on appropriated trade secrets.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Now you can bet that every single employee both Apple
- 3:07Speaker 3: and open ai have signed an NDA, a non disclosure agreement. Also,
- 3:15Speaker 3: the law says you cannot steal propriety proprietary information from
- 3:22Speaker 3: your employer and go someplace else, either stealing it or
- 3:26Speaker 3: letting the information go ahead and go to someone other
- 3:30Speaker 3: than an employer. If it turns out based on what
- 3:35Speaker 3: you say, it looks like evidence is there. I don't
- 3:39Speaker 3: know if there's any defense. I don't know how much
- 3:41Speaker 3: of this is true. You're talking about a hundreds of
- 3:46Speaker 3: millions of dollars in either settlement or a judgment, maybe billions.
- 3:51Speaker 3: I mean, this is big, big news.
- 3:54Speaker 4: It's really serious. Yeah, it's a huge problem for open Ai,
- 3:59Speaker 4: which is no ser to controversy, right, like earlier this
- 4:02Speaker 4: year they were sued by Elon Musk, the richest man
- 4:05Speaker 4: in the world. Now, ultimately they won that lawsuit, but
- 4:07Speaker 4: you know this, these allegations of sort of inappropriate behavior
- 4:11Speaker 4: continue to dog this company, which is really at the
- 4:14Speaker 4: center of the artificial intelligence race. They have made themselves
- 4:18Speaker 4: a very powerful enemy in Apple, which again is responsible
- 4:22Speaker 4: for some of the most iconic tech products ever made,
- 4:24Speaker 4: the iPod, the iPhone, and so on and so forth.
- 4:27Speaker 4: If I'm a startup and I want to start making
- 4:29Speaker 4: hardware products, it makes sense that I would want to
- 4:32Speaker 4: go to like former Apple employees. They're the best in
- 4:35Speaker 4: the biz. I want to get them on my team.
- 4:37Speaker 4: But now it seems like they're they've gone further than that, right,
- 4:40Speaker 4: they're actually stealing this sort of like technical information on
- 4:44Speaker 4: apparently unreleased products, at least according to this lawsuit. That's
- 4:48Speaker 4: a very serious allegation. And in contrast to Elon Musk,
- 4:52Speaker 4: Apple is not a company that files spurious lawsuits just
- 4:56Speaker 4: left and right. This is a company that is five
- 4:58Speaker 4: trillion dollars on some days. They take this very seriously,
- 5:03Speaker 4: and that means that this is a pretty existential threat
- 5:07Speaker 4: for open AI. Now they say, for their part, that
- 5:10Speaker 4: they have no interest in other companies trade secrets. They
- 5:13Speaker 4: say they remain focused on building innovative technology and that
- 5:17Speaker 4: this has not derailed their plans to release these forthcoming
- 5:20Speaker 4: hardware products. We think sometime in the fall, before the
- 5:23Speaker 4: end of the year, and then they'll go on sale
- 5:25Speaker 4: in early twenty twenty seven. Even still, you can imagine
- 5:30Speaker 4: as those events are taking place, this lawsuit is going
- 5:32Speaker 4: to loom large, and it's expected to, as you said,
- 5:35Speaker 4: probably be a multimillion dollar lawsuit, if not multi billion
- 5:39Speaker 4: dollar lawsuit, and something that's going to take a long
- 5:41Speaker 4: time to litigate. So we're going to be talking about
- 5:43Speaker 4: this for a while now.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Open ai is also one of the major platforms that
- 5:49Speaker 3: is arguing for guardrails and some kind of safety using AI.
- 5:54Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting that they're going down that path
- 5:58Speaker 3: and this path, assuming this pans out.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Oh, the fights that are going to happen now.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Not only yeah, it's going to be great, You're going
- 6:07Speaker 3: to be dealing with this for a long time, my friend.
- 6:10Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I feel that the sort of advocate for
- 6:15Speaker 4: you know, AI safety in this whole debate has been
- 6:18Speaker 4: an interesting one to track because you know, at the
- 6:21Speaker 4: sort of genesis of chat ept, which is sort of
- 6:23Speaker 4: their main flagship product, they were often you know, in
- 6:28Speaker 4: front of lawmakers, you know, publicly saying that like this
- 6:31Speaker 4: technology can be very powerful and needs guardrails, right, they
- 6:34Speaker 4: were asking lawmakers to regulate their industry. However, in recent years,
- 6:39Speaker 4: specifically at open AI, we've seen them sort of shy
- 6:41Speaker 4: away from that extra you know, need for regulation. They
- 6:46Speaker 4: say that actually, what is happening here is that we're
- 6:48Speaker 4: in a race with China and with other sort of
- 6:50Speaker 4: adversarial figures out there around the world who are developing
- 6:53Speaker 4: artificial intelligence, and we don't want to be left behind.
- 6:56Speaker 4: We don't want you know, United States technology to to
- 6:59Speaker 4: fall behind than that. But of course there's a lot
- 7:01Speaker 4: of controversy around that too. Right, even if we were
- 7:04Speaker 4: to take Sam Altman at his word, the CEO of
- 7:06Speaker 4: open AI, that you know, he wants to see regulation
- 7:08Speaker 4: in his industry and so on and so forth. You know,
- 7:11Speaker 4: it seems like the next step there would that would
- 7:13Speaker 4: be that he wants to be part of the conversation.
- 7:16Speaker 5: No kid would regulate it, right.
- 7:18Speaker 4: So, like that's that's another key component here, Just Mike,
- 7:21Speaker 4: you know, a grain of salt that goes along with
- 7:22Speaker 4: all right.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Mike, so much, thank you, we'll talk again, Mike, ABC
- 7:27Speaker 3: News Technology reporter out of New York. All right, now,
- 7:32Speaker 3: as you know, the President promised to release UFO files
- 7:36Speaker 3: and he has kept his word, and the Pentagon now
- 7:39Speaker 3: released forty new UFO files, including videos near a nuclear
- 7:45Speaker 3: weapons site, and this was done by the Department of Defense.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Have declassified the President d classified files related to UFOs
- 7:55Speaker 3: fourteen documents, nineteen videos for audio recordings, three images compiled
- 8:01Speaker 3: by NASA, the Pentagon, CIA, the FBI, Department of Energy.
- 8:06Speaker 3: And as I said to you just prior to our
- 8:10Speaker 3: break that be prepared to learn a foreign language. It
- 8:17Speaker 3: will be mandatory. And what language will you be forced
- 8:20Speaker 3: to learn? Venusian? And why is that? Because we have
- 8:26Speaker 3: aliens amongst us?
- 8:29Speaker 2: Please?
- 8:30Speaker 3: Now, is there something weird going on with this UFOs. Yeah,
- 8:35Speaker 3: by that, there have been sightings by people who have
- 8:40Speaker 3: a great deal of credibility. And we're talking about fighter pilots,
- 8:44Speaker 3: airline pilots. We're not talking about flaky people. And so
- 8:48Speaker 3: they're looking at these unidentified flying objects zipping around doing
- 8:52Speaker 3: things that nothing that we've been able to create on
- 8:56Speaker 3: Earth can do up in the sky. And there was
- 9:00Speaker 3: one Department of Energy report that came out in twenty
- 9:04Speaker 3: fifteen that has been declassified. A UFO entered the airspace
- 9:08Speaker 3: above a nuclear weapons plant near Amarillo, Texas. It was
- 9:13Speaker 3: immediately closed down. Two security officers pursued the options as
- 9:18Speaker 3: object was on the ground, could couldn't catch up with it,
- 9:23Speaker 3: made no sound, no propulsion system. Using binoculars to see it,
- 9:27Speaker 3: hovered for one or two minutes really close to the ground,
- 9:31Speaker 3: and zip up it went. And we've got a bunch
- 9:36Speaker 3: of sightings, I mean in the dozens. Some were investigator
- 9:41Speaker 3: de termined. The object was rectangular in shape. Others looked
- 9:47Speaker 3: like a five pointed star, which stranged enough, looked like
- 9:53Speaker 3: the Star of David. Clearly aliens were going to a
- 9:55Speaker 3: bar mitzvah. Multiple infrared videos captured by the military unidentified
- 10:03Speaker 3: aerial objects over the Western Pacific, the Atlantic Ocean, the
- 10:06Speaker 3: Middle East, and of course nineteen forty nine Los Alamos
- 10:11Speaker 3: Area fifty one, and there was a meeting several leading
- 10:16Speaker 3: scientists who had participated in the Manhattan Project. They kept
- 10:20Speaker 3: on seeing mysterious green fireballs over nuclear research facilities. Unable
- 10:27Speaker 3: to determine their origin. Now, some people suggested that these
- 10:33Speaker 3: objects might be meteors. A prominent astronomer argue that now
- 10:39Speaker 3: they're not meteors because they don't look or act like meteors. Now,
- 10:46Speaker 3: the Pentagon emphasize this is not the final release. So
- 10:50Speaker 3: here's my question, always has been a question, and that
- 10:54Speaker 3: is I don't know what UFOs are. I mean, there
- 10:57Speaker 3: are too many explanations out there that are weird. I
- 11:00Speaker 3: have my doubts because let me ask you, if aliens
- 11:03Speaker 3: are zipping above the earth, flying around, why are they
- 11:08Speaker 3: not landing in Washington, d C on them all?
- 11:14Speaker 2: Why not?
- 11:15Speaker 3: Why have we never seen them? Why don't they talk
- 11:19Speaker 3: to us? Why don't they say, take me to your leader?
- 11:25Speaker 3: And of course the understanding is it's a leader of milk,
- 11:30Speaker 3: but it's not take Why is it that we've never
- 11:34Speaker 3: ever seen one that we can video, that we can
- 11:39Speaker 3: theoretically talk to And there's no answer. I've heard some
- 11:43Speaker 3: really stupid answers that here they are the technology to
- 11:48Speaker 3: go across galaxies and somehow they're frightened to talk to us.
- 11:55Speaker 5: Where do you go with that?
- 11:58Speaker 2: Where do you go with that?
- 12:01Speaker 3: Now we know that there are a few farmers in
- 12:04Speaker 3: Kansas who have been sucked up into star into starships,
- 12:11Speaker 3: into these flying objects, and I've had the Martian anal
- 12:15Speaker 3: probe performed on them because for some reason, they're sitting
- 12:20Speaker 3: there and that big screwing device goes into their rear
- 12:25Speaker 3: end and they come down.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Oh my god, it really hurts. And I don't know
- 12:29Speaker 2: what happened.
- 12:30Speaker 3: And all I know is I was, you know, sucked
- 12:32Speaker 3: up into this spaceship and then I didn't know, and
- 12:35Speaker 3: next thing I knew, I was gonna back into that
- 12:39Speaker 3: bundle of hay and oh my god, my.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Rear end is sore. Okay, thank you?
- 12:46Speaker 3: All right. That's the actual encounters that we have seen
- 12:50Speaker 3: with aliens, oh man, And most people agree that there
- 12:57Speaker 3: are aliens out there, which I don't understand.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Neil, you think they are aliens?
- 13:03Speaker 5: I don't personally know, Okay.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Cono aliens, Oh yeah, of course, Amy aliens Okay, and
- 13:13Speaker 3: aliens no, Kno, are you legal or do you believe
- 13:18Speaker 3: in aliens?
- 13:19Speaker 6: Is that a Mexican joker?
- 13:21Speaker 5: Because yes, I'm legal, Okay, Yeah.
- 13:24Speaker 6: It could also how like self centered like main character
- 13:29Speaker 6: syndrome that we're just in this one part of the
- 13:31Speaker 6: galaxy and that we're the only thing.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Ever, no, I agree.
- 13:35Speaker 3: No statistically, no, no, no, Statistically, I have no problem
- 13:39Speaker 3: with arguing there is life on other planets.
- 13:42Speaker 5: Now, statistically we shouldn't even be here.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, that's true when you think about it,
- 13:49Speaker 3: the creation of life. But no, you're right, I believe
- 13:52Speaker 3: that statistically, if you look at the universe, there's probably life.
- 13:56Speaker 3: The next question is the next question is do they
- 13:58Speaker 3: have the technology to come here in zip through galaxies
- 14:02Speaker 3: and never even talk to us.
- 14:04Speaker 6: That was your question. You said, do you believe in aliens? Yes,
- 14:09Speaker 6: so you also believe in aliens.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I do not. I believe that.
- 14:13Speaker 3: Well, I guess to some extent, I believe in aliens,
- 14:15Speaker 3: just not the aliens that come and visit us. Yes,
- 14:18Speaker 3: I think at some point I believe there are life
- 14:21Speaker 3: forms and either their bacteria where the single celled animals,
- 14:26Speaker 3: or they are brilliant, intelligent, highly developed large cockroaches. And
- 14:33Speaker 3: I don't know the answer.
- 14:34Speaker 7: If you look back in the forties when this started
- 14:36Speaker 7: becoming more and more of a thing, the understanding of
- 14:40Speaker 7: what the basic building blocks of life were much simpler
- 14:44Speaker 7: than what we know now, and the fact that they'd
- 14:47Speaker 7: have to be so intelligent and we more intelligent than
- 14:50Speaker 7: we are, based on the fact that there's no way
- 14:53Speaker 7: you could get here. If they do exist, they've never ever,
- 14:57Speaker 7: ever had contact with us. Okay, and that's fair too.
- 15:01Speaker 3: One of the things I look at I read the
- 15:03Speaker 3: New York Times fairly religiously, and I look at the
- 15:07Speaker 3: real estate section, and one of the things that I
- 15:11Speaker 3: have seen over the last few years is something called
- 15:14Speaker 3: land maxing, where you have deep pocket buyers, I mean
- 15:19Speaker 3: deep pockets are snapping up properties, not just the multi
- 15:26Speaker 3: zillion dollar properties on the beach, for example, but the
- 15:31Speaker 3: property next to the house, and then on the other side,
- 15:34Speaker 3: next to the house, and all of a sudden, there
- 15:37Speaker 3: you have two, three, four houses, and each house is
- 15:41Speaker 3: going for I don't know, twenty million dollars, twenty five
- 15:43Speaker 3: million dollars. And it used to be I remember when
- 15:47Speaker 3: Bill Gates built his house in Seattle, and I think
- 15:51Speaker 3: you spent over one hundred million dollars building this massive
- 15:54Speaker 3: compound with a bunch of houses on it. And it
- 15:57Speaker 3: was over one hundred million dollars, I said, and people
- 15:59Speaker 3: went crazy.
- 16:00Speaker 2: One hundred million dollars.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Today doesn't buy you much in the world of insane richiosity.
- 16:07Speaker 3: If you look at the real estate section, which covers
- 16:10Speaker 3: all of the country in certain aspects, the multi million
- 16:16Speaker 3: the hunt I'm not multi million, I mean in the
- 16:19Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars is not unusual, and that
- 16:24Speaker 3: is fairly new. And we're talking about forty thousand square
- 16:29Speaker 3: feed home twenty thousand square feed homes, of course, with
- 16:34Speaker 3: guest cottages and two swimming pools and theaters and saunas
- 16:42Speaker 3: and gift wrapping rooms. I've always wondered about that. What
- 16:46Speaker 3: do you do with a gift wrapping room?
- 16:47Speaker 5: Oh?
- 16:48Speaker 3: I know what you do. You wrap gifts and you
- 16:51Speaker 3: need a separate room. And there are salons, beauty salons
- 16:57Speaker 3: in the room with the chair and the sink where
- 17:00Speaker 3: you wash your hair. And this is just fascinating how
- 17:05Speaker 3: this happens. I'm looking at these properties and they are
- 17:12Speaker 3: in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Buyers are willing
- 17:16Speaker 3: to pay a premium for these adjacent lots, particularly when
- 17:20Speaker 3: land is scarce. And Margaret Marguerite Brandt of Premier State Properties,
- 17:25Speaker 3: who lists a lot of these, there was a land
- 17:28Speaker 3: sale in Malipon Manolopon in Florida that went for one
- 17:33Speaker 3: hundred and five million dollars.
- 17:35Speaker 2: How about that one?
- 17:38Speaker 3: The Oh, I mean, it's just as I'm looking at this,
- 17:42Speaker 3: you talk about consumption. It's just it's crazy what's going on.
- 17:48Speaker 3: And what ends up happening is these people. They're buying
- 17:52Speaker 3: these zillion dollar houses and they're good investments.
- 17:56Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand.
- 17:58Speaker 3: You spend one hundred and fifty million dollars for two
- 18:00Speaker 3: three four houses along the waterfront or some island in
- 18:05Speaker 3: Florida where the other zillionaires live, and you've got an
- 18:10Speaker 3: appreciating property. So for those of you that listen who
- 18:15Speaker 3: do have many hundreds of millions of dollars to buy
- 18:19Speaker 3: a property. Oh, when Bill Gates brought his property, bought
- 18:22Speaker 3: his property, I thought he was buying half of Washington.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Today it buys you two hundred feet of frontage on
- 18:33Speaker 3: the beach one hundred million dollars. All right, Now, there
- 18:40Speaker 3: is a thirty eight dollars sandwich that is sold at
- 18:48Speaker 3: this at a restaurant called Your Rowed Mess. It's a
- 18:54Speaker 3: Armenian restaurant and it goes for thirty eight dollars. And
- 18:59Speaker 3: if you on social media, it's not worth it. At all,
- 19:05Speaker 3: And then there are other people that say it is
- 19:08Speaker 3: worth it. It's a half a pound of Wagu briskets
- 19:12Speaker 3: smothered in pickles and more nay sauce made in a
- 19:17Speaker 3: freshly were put in a freshly made pizza bread. And
- 19:21Speaker 3: it is a flashpoint for two reasons. Number one just
- 19:26Speaker 3: the price of a thirty eight dollars sandwich. And the
- 19:30Speaker 3: other issue is Armenian food and any ethnic food that
- 19:35Speaker 3: we're regarded as cheap food.
- 19:38Speaker 2: You would go to. How many expensive Chinese restaurants do
- 19:42Speaker 2: you go to? You don't.
- 19:44Speaker 3: How many expensive Armenian restaurants or Greek restaurants you don't.
- 19:49Speaker 3: There are some very high end Italian restaurants, but when
- 19:53Speaker 3: you talk about ethnic food, you don't think of high
- 19:57Speaker 3: end gourmet food. You think of good food. I mean,
- 20:00Speaker 3: I love Armenian food, I love Greek food. I just
- 20:03Speaker 3: like food. Neil is also a food lover. We've never
- 20:07Speaker 3: been to our Armenian restaurant. So the two issues are
- 20:11Speaker 3: the price of a sandwich. Now here is the defence.
- 20:15Speaker 3: This sandwich is really two sandwiches.
- 20:18Speaker 2: It's so big.
- 20:19Speaker 3: So now you're talking nineteen bucks per sandwich, which actually
- 20:23Speaker 3: is not unusual in the world of sandwiches, high end sandwiches.
- 20:28Speaker 3: You go to a deli, you can spend twenty four
- 20:31Speaker 3: dollars for a sandwich. You go to New York, You're
- 20:35Speaker 3: got to spend twenty eight dollars. You go to Eddie,
- 20:38Speaker 3: you go to Langers, you're going to spend what north
- 20:40Speaker 3: of twenty dollars for a sandwich. I haven't been to
- 20:43Speaker 3: Brents in a while in order to sandwich, but I
- 20:46Speaker 3: think Brents is close to twenty bucks. So the cost
- 20:50Speaker 3: of these sandwiches a lot of meat, a lot of
- 20:53Speaker 3: beef in there, very high end. But I mean at
- 20:58Speaker 3: some point you just walk out the door and say
- 21:01Speaker 3: no thanks, I'm going to spend that much money. Neil,
- 21:04Speaker 3: You look at this and is there a is there
- 21:07Speaker 3: critical mass anywhere where you simply say no and and
- 21:11Speaker 3: the restaurants are going to serve them anymore.
- 21:14Speaker 7: Well, you know, anytime someone makes a sandwich and refers
- 21:17Speaker 7: to the cheese sauce as mornaise sauce, you know they're
- 21:20Speaker 7: going to be charging you for it, because that's basically
- 21:23Speaker 7: what mornaise sauce is. It's the same stuff you'd put
- 21:26Speaker 7: in mac and cheese, but it's it all depends on
- 21:30Speaker 7: that quality of the meat and everything like that. Do
- 21:33Speaker 7: I want to be paying thirty eight dollars for a sandwich?
- 21:35Speaker 5: Probably not.
- 21:36Speaker 7: But have I had thirty eight dollars sandwiches that I
- 21:40Speaker 7: would gladly pay thirty eight? Absolutely, I've had some great
- 21:44Speaker 7: sandwiches that I've said this is it's masterfully dot It's
- 21:50Speaker 7: just everything can.
- 21:51Speaker 3: Okay, who makes Where would you go? I can see,
- 21:54Speaker 3: for example, a lobster roll with huge chunks of lobster
- 21:59Speaker 3: in there, which you know go for a lot of money.
- 22:01Speaker 3: But where did you go or where would you pay
- 22:05Speaker 3: thirty eight dollars gladly for a sandwich?
- 22:10Speaker 7: Standby, I'm trying to figure out the name of the place,
- 22:16Speaker 7: but it's not it's a Philly cheese steak sandwich. But
- 22:20Speaker 7: it's not. It's not at a Philly cheese place. It's
- 22:26Speaker 7: at a beautiful steak restaurant in Beverly Hills, Mattu Okay,
- 22:31Speaker 7: so they have they have a sandwich there. I'm looking
- 22:35Speaker 7: to see what the price is, but they have not
- 22:41Speaker 7: their main menus gorgeous. But at the bar you can
- 22:44Speaker 7: get them at two Philly cheese steak, which is sort
- 22:47Speaker 7: of controversial to people go back and forth, but it's
- 22:50Speaker 7: eight ounces of one hundred percent grass fed ribbi and
- 22:54Speaker 7: sirloin Wagoo beef.
- 22:56Speaker 5: Okay, Cooper sharp grilled onion.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Wago wago beef is really expensive.
- 23:03Speaker 7: And that's probably one of the best sandwiches to me
- 23:06Speaker 7: in Los Angeles, and that there are many like that
- 23:09Speaker 7: that are worthy.
- 23:12Speaker 5: But that's okay.
- 23:12Speaker 2: I have a book.
- 23:13Speaker 3: Frankly, I have a problem with a sandwich that costs
- 23:17Speaker 3: thirty eight bucks.
- 23:18Speaker 2: I just do.
- 23:19Speaker 3: But a lot of people don't because they are very
- 23:23Speaker 3: popular out there. And you've got this is a this
- 23:28Speaker 3: is an interesting place because it was or it is
- 23:32Speaker 3: run by an Armenian. The chef owner Arthur Gregorian, who
- 23:39Speaker 3: well he created the sandwich. And I'll tell you the
- 23:46Speaker 3: viral boss forma brisket sandwich has gone absolutely crazy. All right,
- 23:52Speaker 3: We're done, guys. That's it. So much for a thirty
- 23:55Speaker 3: eight dollars sandwich.
- 23:56Speaker 7: We'll go hats on it next time, you know, we'll
- 23:59Speaker 7: go No, no, we won't, We'll go words. We'll bring kono.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:04Speaker 5: Well, it's a cost.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Down has to pay for gas. It's true. Good point,
- 24:09Speaker 2: all right, we are done.
- 24:10Speaker 3: Tomorrow morning it's all over again with Will Coleschreiber and
- 24:15Speaker 3: Amy King. Well, do you know you are such a
- 24:19Speaker 3: goyas goyam name?
- 24:20Speaker 2: You know that Amy a name? Yeah?
- 24:25Speaker 1: Yeah? White?
- 24:26Speaker 2: Isn't that where you're white?
- 24:27Speaker 3: I know, mayonnaise sandwiches and let us and white bread.
- 24:32Speaker 3: I get it that icy that's her thirty eight dollars sandwiches.
- 24:36Speaker 3: I get that all right. And then from six to
- 24:38Speaker 3: nine it's the Nielstir and me, and then of course
- 24:43Speaker 3: Cono who was spending all of his money on gasoline,
- 24:46Speaker 3: and and all of us back tomorrow and coming up
- 24:50Speaker 3: it's Gary and Shannon.
- 24:51Speaker 2: This is KFI A M six.
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