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Creepy People Chronicles - Veiled Visitors · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  After a few seconds of silence, they started hearing "walking downstairs" so they called the cops.
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  While waiting, they could still hear someone walking and heard the sight door opened and closed.
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  It legit could have been like a person.
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  I mean, yeah, very legitimately.
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  So calling the police was probably not a bad idea.
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  I hope this isn't a true crime story.
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  Hi, Caitlyn.
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  Hi, Cassie.
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  Hi, Creepy people.
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  Hi!
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  Well, if you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides,
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  where we have shenanigans.
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  We talk about true crime, paranormal, and all things creepy, spooky, weird,
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  and the Pacific Northwest.
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  It's true.
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  We also do a tarot reading at the end of every episode for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic.
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  'Cause it's spooky and we like it.
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  Yes.
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  And for the creepy people Chronicles episode, if you send us a story, you get your very own tarot read for your story.
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  It's also true.
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  So that's pretty cool.
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  I like it.
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  Do I get a tarot read for my story this week?
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  I guess you did one for me.
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  Yeah, that's true.
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  So I suppose technically, yes.
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  Okay, cool.
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  If you want one.
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  I do.
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  This is my show.
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  I get what I want.
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  Respect Patharta.
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  So let's talk about this peppermint/ketchup thing real quick.
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  And I'll insert it to the beginning.
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  This is literally just a stream of consciousness of so many things that we've had like on the radar.
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  But this happened today.
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  We were discussing before this episode if ketchup was spicy or not.
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  I think it is.
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  Spicy isn't hot.
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  I think it's a little bit hot in my mouth.
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  What do you, and you don't think so?
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  I keep my ketchup in the fridge, so it is quite literally cold.
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  It is cold, but it's spicy.
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  I don't think that it's spicy, which is a rare stance for me to take on almost anything.
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  I agree.
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  Because everything is spicy.
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  And we're not talking about the sugary ketchup.
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  We're talking about the Portland ketchup.
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  Yeah.
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  And if you've never had Portland ketchup, you got to get some.
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  Come to Portland.
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  And get some.
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  Get you some of that.
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  And that doesn't mean ketchup you find on the street in Portland.
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  Yeah.
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  Please don't eat that Portland ketchup.
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  I feel like it goes without saying, but it's like a smash McDonald's ketchup.
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  I can't do that.
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  That's not what we mean.
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  Yeah.
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  That's still, that's not it.
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  But I was also telling Caitlin a funny story that I heard from a friend this weekend.
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  Oh my God.
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  About someone they met that thought peppermint was spicy.
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  And then Caitlin says, peppermint is spicy, but ketchup isn't.
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  No, ketchup is acidic.
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  It's spicy.
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  I think your taste buds are confused.
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  I think there's like cayenne in there.
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  There's got to be some spice.
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  Okay.
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  The ingredients of ketchup right now.
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  Okay.
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  I can.
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  But what in peppermint is spicy?
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  Like it's minty?
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  Mint.
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  It's minty.
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  Like spicy.
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  It's cold.
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  Peppermint.
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  Well, it's cold, but it's spicy.
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  A frostbite.
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  Like a frostburn.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  I get it now.
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  But I wouldn't call it spicy.
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  I would call it a frostbite.
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  Okay.
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  Well, I'm going to frostbite in my mouth from the peppermint.
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  I don't like peppermint.
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  I don't like candy canes.
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  I don't like little peppermint candy.
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  You use mint.
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  Okay.
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  You guys, I don't know if you knew this or not, because I don't...
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  I did not know this.
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  I'll be honest.
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  Um, ketchup is not vegan.
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  What?
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  Yeah.
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  Ketchup is not vegan.
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  Standardly, at least.
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  Okay.
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  I'm going to the Wikipedia, because this is...
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  This is salacious.
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  What?
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  Okay.
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  Ketchup or ketchup is a table condiment with a sweet and sour flavor.
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  It shouldn't be sweet.
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  It should never be.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  So the unmodified term ketchup now typically refers to tomato ketchup.
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  So early recipes for various different varieties of ketchup contained mushrooms, oysters,
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  mussels, egg whites, grapes, or walnuts.
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  Oh, okay.
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  That makes sense.
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  I was like, what kind of weird animal product do they add to this?
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  Honestly, I get it.
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  I don't know about hines.
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  I'd have to look into this a little bit closer, but um, Cassie, can you take a look at this
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  picture of the mushroom ketchup?
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  Yum.
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  I do that.
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  I love mushrooms.
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  I would too, but that legitimately looks like somebody dropped a dos.
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  It does.
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  Into that condiment cup.
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  It does.
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  So I have a lot of feelings about that.
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  All right.
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  But no spicy?
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  No.
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  Spicy.
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  You forgot the reason for the Google search.
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  I don't see anything that indicates spicy.
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  Okay.
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  I'm going to find it.
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  It's there.
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  My tongue does not lie.
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  Catch up.
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  Like my hips.
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  Ingredients.
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  Oh, okay.
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  This is what I was going to guess.
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  Okay.
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  So there's white vinegar in it.
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  And I bet you that's what you think is spicy, but it's biting.
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  There's cayenne in it.
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  No, there's not.
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  I googled Portland ketchup.
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  I had to look.
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  Coyon.
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  It's the second to last.
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  Is that is that their website?
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  No.
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  Yes.
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  No, it's not.
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  It's Portlandia Foods website.
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  All organic.
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  It has the picture of the Portlandia or I'm sorry Portland ketchup.
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  And it says the ingredients have cayenne.
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  I'm not crazy.
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  You're gaslighting me.
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  Honestly, you sound crazy right now.
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  I still think it's the vinegar.
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  I don't think it's the cayenne.
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  It is not spicy.
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  It's the cayenne.
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  Okay.
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  I have eaten pepperoni pizza that I thought was spicy pepperoni is spicy.
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  I...
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  Okay.
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  Spicy.
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  How about y'all give us your opinion?
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  Is ketchup spicy?
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  It's hot.
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  Tonight at 10.
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  Is ketchup spicy?
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  Back to you in the studio.
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  I say yes.
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  You have like the perfect news anchor voice.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Oh my god.
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  I never thought so.
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  Oh.
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  I always thought you should be on the news.
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  Like...
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  I really wanted to be a journalist.
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  Yeah.
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  Like a news anchor and/or journalist.
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  Well, now look at you.
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  I wanted to write the copy and then read the copy.
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  Do we need you made your dream come true?
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  Okay.
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  You're going to think I'm so stupid.
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  No.
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  I literally did not realize that until I was this many minutes and seconds old.
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  Really?
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  Yeah.
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  I just...
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  I did not put that together.
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  How did you not put that together?
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  I'm writing and reading the copy.
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  Oh my god.
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  I don't know.
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  I didn't think about it that hard.
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  I'm like, "Well, I'm a podcaster."
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  So that's different.
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  And I never went and got a degree in journalism.
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  But you are writing the things and you're reading them.
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  Oh my god.
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  Yeah.
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  How cool is that?
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  Are you crying?
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  No.
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  Oh my god.
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  I'm not crying.
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  I'm not crying.
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  But I do feel like...
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  I know.
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  I feel like sweaty.
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  Yeah.
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  Can you play me?
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  Maybe that's because of the scary story you're about to read.
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  It's probably combination of factors.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  Well anyways, rip that bandaid in my rate.
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  That's not the sound a bandaid makes when it comes off.
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  I mean, it could.
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  Like, if you put a bandaid on your butthole.
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  Does it do...
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  I feel like maybe.
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  I feel like you probably wouldn't want to do that.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm not willing to try it.
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  Anyone listening is.
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  Like a...like a scented bandaid.
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  Can you imagine?
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  Do you want to hear my story?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  So Caitlin kind of knows a little bit of my story because I was texting her.
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  Do you want to hear my story?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Remember when I was house sitting this weekend?
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  Oh.
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  Yeah.
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  And I was like, I'll tell you the rest of the story on the pod.
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  Ah!
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  So, I was house sitting this weekend with some dogs and cats, 19 chickens, you know, super casual.
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  Yeah.
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  And they have children.
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  So, there's children's toys all over the house.
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  And I'm sitting there one night, mended my own business, and a child's toy goes off.
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  No.
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  And I'm like, okay.
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  This is fine.
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  Unacceptable.
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  But I'm looking around and I'm like, I don't see it anywhere.
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  And I'm like, okay.
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  I'm not in the mood for this.
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  If this is a ghost, like mentally I'm saying this.
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  If this is a ghost, like, I'm not in the mood, just please go away.
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  A couple seconds later, I hear, bye-bye!
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  From the fucking toy.
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  And I was like, did I just do that with my mind?
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  Ah!
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  I just told a ghost to go away with my mind.
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  So, I was like kind of frozen at this point and I was like, okay.
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  Is this actually real?
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  Like, is this actually happening?
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  And this thing just said goodbye to me.
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  I told it to go away.
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  So, I'm texting Caitlin.
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  Like, I'm freaking out.
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  I was like, I'm alone.
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  It's dark.
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  I don't know what to do.
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  So, I start looking around and I'm like, okay.
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  I'm trying to find this toy.
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  I look over at the couch.
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  Cassie is a dog.
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  And under that dog is a toy.
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  Oh my god.
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  So, the dog was moving around and pushing buttons on the toy.
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  Okay.
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  I was like, bitch, if you tell me that there was a doll on this couch.
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  I wish it was a better story, but no, it was definitely just the dog rolling around.
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  The toy was like under the cushion.
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  That's how every story would end if I was writing a horror movie.
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  Like, just kidding.
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  It was okay.
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  Yeah.
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  JK, it's horror.
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  Horror.
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  Horror.
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  Well, nothing else spooky happened.
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  So, I assume it was just, it was just the dog on the toy pushing the buttons.
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  But, okay.
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  I couldn't tell where it was coming from.
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  It didn't sound like it was coming from the couch, you know.
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  I don't like that.
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  Yeah, it was really weird.
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  But not a fan.
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  Just like mentally telling something to go away and then hearing bye bye was just like the
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  creepiest thing that happened.
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  Let's just assume that you can make ghosts and/or other paranormal phenomena disappear.
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  Okay.
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  Because by the time this comes out, it'll be a little bit closer to a trip that we're working
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  on, planning.
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  And depending on where we decide to stay, we might need to call on you for that.
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  To make ghosts go away?
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  Yeah.
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  I'm the shield.
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  Okay.
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  I'll protect you.
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  Great.
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  Because I'm basically a fly paper.
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  Demon's stuck all over you.
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  Well, you try waking up on your 33rd birthday at 333.
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  I wish.
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  That's so cool to me.
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  I mean, yeah, if it wasn't the most horrific nightmare I've ever had.
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  Oh, okay.
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  So I remember that nightmare you had and I literally had a similar one the other day.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It wasn't the same, but it was kind of the same and it was really sad.
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  Not a fan.
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  No, it was actually that was when I was house sitting.
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  So I guess something weird did happen.
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  I had a terrible dream that I will not repeat because I it will not happen.
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  No.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I hate that.
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  I'll tell you after.
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  I hate that for everyone involved.
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  Well, should we move on to maybe another creepy spooky story that I have not read and it
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  sounds pretty terrifying?
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  I wait.
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  You did you skin?
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  So I only skimmed the I think it was the beginning just to see.
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  So you're just sending me into this blind?
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, my God.
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  Yeah.
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  Listen, you you plan one semi spooky sleepover and you give them an inch and they will take
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  a mile.
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  She did.
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  I got her.
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  I got my hooks in her.
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  But what have I done?
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  What have I done?
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  I often think the same.
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  It's it's too much.
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  I'm already scared and cut.
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  No cut.
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  Oh, Lloyd.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  I am so excited for the story though because I did email her back and told her that we haven't
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  read it but we are reading it soon.
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  Oh, boy.
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  Okay.
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  So I assume then that we have permission to share the name of our story, Tela.
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  I assume so that's not the first time we've heard a story.
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  A repeat offender.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I think it's our favorite repeat offender.
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  I don't you know, she tells a good story.
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  She's got, she's got a lot of spookiness going on.
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  Little bit.
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  Little bit.
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  Okay.
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  All right.
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  Karen.
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  Hi, Karen.
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  Hi, Karen.
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  Welcome back.
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  Welcome back.
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  Her email reads.
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  Hi.
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  Long time no email.
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  I said, been that one.
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  I feel like it hasn't been that long.
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  But yeah, it feels like it was just yesterday.
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  But I guess you know, trauma has different effects on different people.
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  Is this her third story?
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  I feel like she named it Spooky Stories 3 or something.
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  I was going to ask you.
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  I'm going to go with what the title says.
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  Spooky story 3.
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  Okay.
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  She says, hope you guys are doing well.
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  I got, oh, Cassie.
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  I got three stories.
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  I feel like that TikTok.
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  I got three looks.
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  And that's it.
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  So we were just talking about your third birthday and waking up at 3.33.
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  And now she's got her third Spooky story with three of them.
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  Anywho.
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  Getting right back into it.
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  Yeah, stop stalling, Karen.
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  I know.
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  Hey, that is not on me.
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  Okay.
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  I got three stories today and I promise the last one is funny.
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  Okay.
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  She promises.
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  Okay.
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  As for the other two, well, that's up to you.
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  Anyways, enjoy.
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  Karen, that sounds really ominous.
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  Am I mad at you in the future?
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  Not if it ends with the funny.
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  Okay.
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  You're always forgiven if it ends with the funny.
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  Okay.
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  In my book.
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  Okay.
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  I'm excited about the scary too.
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  Well, I have complicated feelings because I don't want any of the creepy people to go through
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  scary things, but I also want to hear about the scary things.
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  I know.
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  So, and you know what?
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  I wasn't going to say anything about this.
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  I didn't really have anything, I guess, prepared, but we were talking about it right before
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  we started recording.
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  And as we're recording this episode, we released the creepy people Chronicles just prior.
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  And that had my story in it.
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  And there were so many people that reached out to us and said such nice things and they
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  felt like they needed to check up on me and make sure I was okay and it was very sweet.
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  And it was lovely.
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  That is really sweet.
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  That is really sweet.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like, "Oh, I love that."
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  Oh, feelings.
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  People care about Caitlin.
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  They don't want a crazy person to run at her.
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  Yeah.
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  Little add on here.
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  I've been trying to finish this for the past two months, but I had a little visitor.
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  And for my own sake, I had to take a break and try to get rid of it more in the second story.
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  Yeah.
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  So, that's as far as I read.
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  And so, I emailed her back and I was like, "I hope you're okay.
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  I hope we'll send good, I was sending good vibes."
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  So...
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  The time of this email, Karen says, "It's still around soul.
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  It is what it is."
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  Yeah.
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  She did email back and said that it's cooled down a little bit.
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  So hopefully the vibes and getting it out worked.
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  I'm so nervous to hear it though.
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  I don't know why.
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  Okay.
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  My mom and stepdad have lived in this house for about five years or so.
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  About a month in, they were in their room upstairs and heard the front door open and slammed shut.
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  Nope.
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  Okay.
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  I'm moving.
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  I mean, that could be explained.
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  Or you could just move.
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  Maybe someone thought they lived there and was like, "Oh, shit, I don't live here and slam
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  the door."
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  Oh my god.
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  Hopefully it was locked.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know.
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  Always locked the door.
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  Was it locked?
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  I don't know.
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  After a few seconds of silence, they started hearing walking downstairs.
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  So they called the cops.
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  I would too.
• 19:44
  Yeah.
• 19:45
  While waiting, they could still hear someone walking and heard the side door opened and closed.
• 19:53
  It says, "The station is like a 30-second drive away."
• 19:58
  So it's like, "It legit could have been like a person."
• 20:02
  I mean, yeah, very legitimately.
• 20:05
  So calling the police was probably not a bad idea.
• 20:09
  I hope this isn't a true crime story.
• 20:14
  Since it was being treated as a break-in, quite a few patrol cars showed up and started looking
• 20:20
  around the back and side yard but found nothing.
• 20:25
  That's almost worse.
• 20:26
  Okay, but yeah, because they left.
• 20:28
  They heard them leave.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:30
  They left the side door.
• 20:34
  When they got to the front door, it was locked and my parents had to open it to let the
• 20:42
  officer inside.
• 20:43
  Okay, but maybe the person locked it.
• 20:46
  Opened it, closed it, locked it, walked around, left out the side door.
• 20:52
  It doesn't say that the deadbolt was locked, but that's what I'm picturing.
• 20:58
  But yeah, if they locked it from inside, though.
• 21:00
  And then went out the side.
• 21:02
  Or she was saying the side door was locked.
• 21:05
  Oh, no.
• 21:06
  This is definitely the front.
• 21:07
  Yeah.
• 21:08
  Okay.
• 21:09
  When they got to the front door, it was locked and my parents had to open it to let the
• 21:13
  officer inside.
• 21:16
  They found that all windows and doors were locked from the inside and nothing was out of
• 21:22
  place.
• 21:23
  I hate it.
• 21:25
  Oh, that just makes me wonder if you can lock the side door from the inside and then you
• 21:31
  know how you can lock it in the front door.
• 21:34
  If it's not the deadbolt, yeah.
• 21:36
  I don't know.
• 21:37
  I would assume.
• 21:38
  I would assume.
• 21:39
  She said we can email her.
• 21:40
  So I go ask.
• 21:43
  The primary room is the scariest, which is downstairs.
• 21:48
  And when it was used as storage, we would come.
• 21:51
  Oh.
• 21:52
  And when it was used as storage, we would cross it to use the bathroom and every now and
• 21:59
  then I would see someone standing in the corner.
• 22:03
  Carrot.
• 22:04
  That is such a casual sentence that isn't even over.
• 22:09
  Oh, my God.
• 22:11
  I was the only one to see it.
• 22:14
  Oh, no.
• 22:15
  Because you're sensitive.
• 22:17
  Your next parenthesis being spiritually sensitive can be a headache sometimes.
• 22:23
  I'm a witch.
• 22:24
  I haven't read this.
• 22:25
  I swear.
• 22:26
  Oh, my God.
• 22:27
  But do you think that's why I have a literal headache like my grains all the time?
• 22:31
  Yeah, we both do.
• 22:33
  I wonder.
• 22:34
  Oh, boy.
• 22:35
  Okay.
• 22:36
  It's possible.
• 22:37
  No, it's fine.
• 22:38
  I'm sure that's totally unrelated.
• 22:40
  I've been told there's something way behind me draining my energy all the time.
• 22:43
  I don't like that.
• 22:46
  I don't either.
• 22:50
  Before I start the story, you're not start.
• 22:53
  Okay.
• 22:54
  Okay, Karen, we have to have a little talk about what is an introduction to the body and the
• 23:02
  conclusion.
• 23:03
  Oh, my God.
• 23:05
  Okay.
• 23:06
  I'm ready.
• 23:07
  That is probably several octaves too high.
• 23:14
  Um, future Cassie, feel free to edit as needed.
• 23:19
  Oh, boy.
• 23:21
  Okay.
• 23:22
  Before I start the story, I'll say this.
• 23:25
  I've been taught.
• 23:26
  Don't say its name because it will call them to you.
• 23:30
  Yeah, I've heard that.
• 23:31
  Yeah.
• 23:32
  Like with demons.
• 23:36
  If you want to know the name, look up Elf in Spanish.
• 23:40
  It starts with the D, their gnome like creatures.
• 23:45
  Oh, I'm not going to say it because I don't want it to come to Karen just in case.
• 23:51
  What was it?
• 23:52
  I think it would come to me.
• 23:53
  So say it even less.
• 23:56
  My step mama, Sylvia, told my sister and I this one.
• 24:01
  Her daughter has always had a fascination with these creatures.
• 24:05
  And every time she wanted to get one, Sylvia would say no because she didn't like them.
• 24:12
  A few years later, her daughter moved out.
• 24:15
  She started seeing two little figures, a white and a black one running around the house.
• 24:25
  And she started cleaning out her daughter's room and found them hidden in the back of a wardrobe.
• 24:32
  Guess what?
• 24:34
  A white and a black one.
• 24:37
  Ooh, a wardrobe.
• 24:40
  Is it going to take you to the Arnea?
• 24:45
  How do you get one though?
• 24:47
  How do you go about getting one?
• 24:49
  Well, it's a figurine.
• 24:52
  She just had the figurines because the stepmom always said no, I can't even have the figurine
• 24:59
  but she somehow got that.
• 25:01
  Okay.
• 25:02
  I love them and then she was seeing little, because they probably inhabit the figurine.
• 25:08
  Oh my gosh, I could, I was going around like, how do you get a little, oh, like I won't.
• 25:13
  Adoptileff.com.
• 25:15
  Okay, I want one of the figurines.
• 25:18
  Adoptile, do you dare me to say it?
• 25:20
  No.
• 25:21
  No.
• 25:22
  Okay, do you even know how to pronounce it because I don't?
• 25:24
  I do and now I still like, I have to.
• 25:28
  No, don't say it.
• 25:31
  I trust Karen, we should say it.
• 25:34
  We won't say it.
• 25:35
  We're not going to say it.
• 25:37
  I kind of want to say it.
• 25:39
  We're not going to say it.
• 25:40
  Say it later.
• 25:41
  Okay.
• 25:42
  She asked her then husband to get rid of them and hoped for the best because it's known
• 25:47
  if you wrong them in any way, they can get aggressive and hurt someone.
• 25:53
  I would throw them away.
• 25:55
  I'm really glad I didn't say it now.
• 25:57
  I would Google not.
• 25:59
  I love how we could just Google things now.
• 26:01
  We were talking earlier.
• 26:02
  We were like, how do we do a say else?
• 26:04
  We were like, let's just Google it.
• 26:07
  But I would want to figure out maybe like what they like where they want to be and like
• 26:13
  take them there.
• 26:14
  Yeah.
• 26:15
  Maybe not just like toss them out.
• 26:18
  Let's see.
• 26:19
  Empath in you.
• 26:20
  You're like, oh, where do they want to be?
• 26:22
  Yeah.
• 26:23
  I want them to live their little best no-mish, selfish life.
• 26:27
  Or mind you of a little story I, another story I have after, for after.
• 26:31
  Okay.
• 26:32
  Don't let me forget.
• 26:33
  Okay.
• 26:34
  Karen says, thankfully that didn't happen and they never showed up again.
• 26:40
  Okay.
• 26:41
  Maybe they like the dumpster.
• 26:44
  I hope they didn't just go on the dumpster.
• 26:47
  It sounds like maybe you took them to an antique store.
• 26:50
  Maybe.
• 26:51
  Good will.
• 26:52
  Maybe.
• 26:53
  Maybe.
• 26:54
  Maybe.
• 26:55
  There's someone else's problem now.
• 26:58
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  That's the most important piece of the puzzle.
• 27:01
  I'm going to find them and gift them to you for Christmas.
• 27:05
  No, thank you.
• 27:08
  My little visitor happened to be one of these creatures.
• 27:12
  I thought you said it was okay.
• 27:14
  Here's how it happened.
• 27:16
  I was talking out loud to myself when I started typing up this email and happened to say
• 27:22
  the name and a while later I was on IG on a video.
• 27:28
  I'm glad you didn't say it.
• 27:32
  I told you I knew I had a feeling Karen was right.
• 27:35
  Just don't say it.
• 27:36
  Oh my god.
• 27:37
  I cannot believe how overwhelming the urge was to say it.
• 27:44
  I think it wanted you to.
• 27:45
  I think it did.
• 27:50
  I can't not hear it in my mind.
• 27:53
  Are you just like repeating it in your mind?
• 27:55
  No, I'm trying.
• 27:56
  I'm trying actively not to.
• 27:57
  But in your dog's mind.
• 27:58
  And also my dog is my name.
• 28:01
  Molly.
• 28:02
  That was.
• 28:03
  She's Charlie.
• 28:04
  Oh, is that Charlie?
• 28:05
  He's staring at the door.
• 28:06
  Charlie, it's okay.
• 28:08
  There's not oh my god.
• 28:10
  It rhymes with, okay.
• 28:13
  So I wanted to say it again.
• 28:17
  I was going to say it's not a.
• 28:19
  Oh my god.
• 28:21
  What is happening?
• 28:22
  This reminds you of the time where I played the Ouija board on Halloween and I wanted to go
• 28:26
  downstairs for absolutely no reason.
• 28:28
  No.
• 28:29
  But I just like had the urge to go downstairs and I'm like, why do I want to go down there?
• 28:32
  I don't.
• 28:33
  There's nothing down there.
• 28:34
  No.
• 28:35
  No.
• 28:36
  That's what this reminds me of.
• 28:38
  Oh my god.
• 28:39
  You guys, I'm having serious second thoughts about trip location number two because I'm
• 28:46
  pretty sure that I will just be summoned out to the sea.
• 28:50
  No.
• 28:51
  We'll protect you.
• 28:52
  We'll have protections.
• 28:53
  Oh my god.
• 28:54
  I'll be your shield.
• 28:55
  I'm a shield like Bella from Twilight.
• 28:59
  Oh my god.
• 29:02
  Can you be a better shield and have more faces?
• 29:05
  Did it work?
• 29:08
  Are you having more faces?
• 29:10
  I don't know.
• 29:11
  Oh, okay.
• 29:12
  All right.
• 29:13
  Moving on.
• 29:14
  Okay.
• 29:17
  Later, I was on IG and a video popped up about them.
• 29:21
  About them.
• 29:22
  A video about them popped up.
• 29:25
  Because your phone heard you fucking saying it.
• 29:28
  Oh my god.
• 29:32
  It was getting a little late so I went out to water my plans and I was in the backyard
• 29:37
  and it felt like someone was watching me.
• 29:40
  So I looked around and behind the garbage bin, along the fence, I saw something move really
• 29:46
  quick and at first I thought it was just a weed.
• 29:50
  A weed that was moving due to the wind.
• 29:56
  But I realized there was no wind.
• 29:58
  Oh yeah.
• 29:59
  That's important to know.
• 30:01
  Karen.
• 30:02
  Maybe it was like a little mouse moving.
• 30:05
  Oh my god.
• 30:06
  Something.
• 30:07
  I don't know.
• 30:08
  And what I saw looked like a white face in the hands, let go of the fence when I saw it.
• 30:15
  So this is like a little white creature clasping to the fence.
• 30:21
  Wow.
• 30:22
  Until she looks at it and then it's like, oh.
• 30:27
  That's what I imagined.
• 30:28
  Was it?
• 30:29
  Did you go to Karen's?
• 30:38
  This is the one Karen tells that I maybe would visit.
• 30:42
  If it's on it, I don't know.
• 30:45
  That's why she's maybe.
• 30:47
  Oh my god.
• 30:48
  Oh no.
• 30:49
  Oh my god.
• 30:51
  Okay.
• 30:52
  Thankfully, it hasn't tried to bug me or get inside but I've seen it around outside of
• 30:59
  the house especially at night.
• 31:02
  Is it a possum?
• 31:03
  Karen, it's a possum, right?
• 31:06
  I don't.
• 31:07
  Right.
• 31:08
  They're white and they have little white hands.
• 31:11
  I mean, I don't.
• 31:13
  I feel like that's pretty.
• 31:16
  I don't think so.
• 31:18
  I feel like you would know what a possum is and they're out at night.
• 31:23
  They're out at night.
• 31:24
  Fun fact.
• 31:25
  We had possums in the backyard and she would always want to go out there and fuck with the
• 31:31
  possums at night.
• 31:32
  So we were always joking like, it's her friends.
• 31:36
  Like she has friends at the possums and one night.
• 31:39
  I fucking saw one of them.
• 31:41
  They're so creepy but they're so cute.
• 31:44
  But yeah, I think you would know if it was a possum.
• 31:47
  Oh god.
• 31:48
  Okay.
• 31:49
  Oh my god.
• 31:50
  Karen, why?
• 31:53
  One time I saw it on the roof outside my window and when I say I've never gotten up so
• 31:58
  fast to close the curtain.
• 32:01
  Man, I dang near-peed myself and do you think it's like trying to get inside?
• 32:10
  It doesn't seem like it.
• 32:12
  It seems like it.
• 32:13
  Kind of.
• 32:14
  Do you have to invite it like a vampire?
• 32:16
  I don't know.
• 32:19
  About a week after my sister and I needed to run some errands and my younger brother didn't
• 32:24
  want to go.
• 32:25
  So we locked the doors and left.
• 32:28
  When we got home, the back door was open and I asked my brother if he went outside at all
• 32:33
  and he said no.
• 32:34
  That he's been on the TV the whole time.
• 32:37
  Then I asked my sister if she closed the door and she said yes.
• 32:45
  And that she even locked it on top.
• 32:48
  So we were freaking out a little.
• 32:50
  Just a little.
• 32:51
  No.
• 32:52
  Just a little.
• 32:53
  Just sorry.
• 32:54
  That was a little loud.
• 32:56
  It's the brother just so sucked into the TV.
• 32:58
  He just didn't even.
• 32:59
  That's such a brother thing to do.
• 33:02
  It really is.
• 33:03
  It really is.
• 33:04
  That's so relatable.
• 33:06
  After that, I told it, it can't do that again and just start playing around like that.
• 33:13
  Since then, I still see it, but it doesn't play with anything at the house.
• 33:18
  Good.
• 33:19
  I mean, not that you still see it, but that it's like it listened.
• 33:25
  I just have a lot of feelings about this.
• 33:29
  And if we've said it once, we've said it a hundred times, possibly a thousand.
• 33:35
  You know how I feel about feelings.
• 33:38
  You feel them?
• 33:42
  She's toying with me.
• 33:46
  Okay.
• 33:47
  Last story, Karen says.
• 33:50
  This is the funny one, right?
• 33:51
  Okay.
• 33:52
  Really?
• 33:57
  In North Bend, there's a camp called Wascoitz and it's this huge property that's along the
• 34:03
  Snacquami River.
• 34:05
  So if there's actual paranormal stuff there, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't be
• 34:10
  either.
• 34:12
  When I was in the 10th grade, I was there for some lit comp stuff every other weekend.
• 34:19
  Oh man.
• 34:20
  What's that?
• 34:21
  Oh.
• 34:22
  I was like, you remember we took it out.
• 34:25
  Yeah.
• 34:26
  Tessie blacked out for his weekend.
• 34:28
  I remember when we took that terrible class.
• 34:30
  Remember when we took like an AP comp class?
• 34:34
  I was living for that class and you're like, I am not a writer.
• 34:38
  I am not a writer.
• 34:40
  Did I?
• 34:41
  You are a writer.
• 34:43
  I wrote about Tom Cruise in our test.
• 34:46
  In our key test at the end of the year.
• 34:49
  Okay.
• 34:50
  I'm going to need to hear more about that.
• 34:52
  I don't remember.
• 34:53
  I just know that I wrote about him because I didn't understand what to do.
• 34:56
  I, okay.
• 34:57
  Tom.
• 34:58
  I got a cruise.
• 35:01
  I got to see you.
• 35:05
  It's you, Pei.
• 35:06
  In the class.
• 35:07
  I don't know about the test.
• 35:08
  I don't remember.
• 35:09
  Oh, okay.
• 35:10
  We are circling back.
• 35:12
  Okay.
• 35:13
  We can't.
• 35:14
  I will try my best to remember.
• 35:15
  Okay.
• 35:16
  So when I was in the 10th grade, I was there for some lit comp stuff every other weekend
• 35:21
  and on the last night, one of the girls was telling a story about a lady in white that walks
• 35:28
  around outside the cabins.
• 35:30
  And when it was time for bed, she put a white dress on and we hid in the bushes and she
• 35:36
  went to the boys' cabin and started rattling the doors.
• 35:41
  Yes.
• 35:42
  Oh my god.
• 35:43
  I love this.
• 35:44
  And all we heard were high-pitched screams.
• 35:50
  And then we got caught by the leaders and had to go to bed.
• 35:53
  Oh, my goodness.
• 35:54
  If I was those leaders, I'd be in on it.
• 35:59
  Yeah.
• 36:00
  Come on.
• 36:01
  Can you say Lame?
• 36:03
  Do they have a Can We Be Camp counselors at like 34 or 35?
• 36:07
  Are we too old?
• 36:08
  Oh, that creepy.
• 36:10
  Definitely creepy.
• 36:11
  That's all I got for you today.
• 36:13
  Hope you enjoyed.
• 36:14
  I know a few more creepy Mexico stories if you guys want them.
• 36:19
  Have a creepy ass day.
• 36:21
  Bye.
• 36:22
  Oh, yes, we want them.
• 36:25
  Obviously.
• 36:26
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 36:27
  Were you talking to Karen for real?
• 36:29
  I don't know, but I feel like Mexico is just like really creepy.
• 36:33
  Like otherworldly, like spooky.
• 36:37
  I feel like there are some things that are so creepy that I have been working up too slowly
• 36:45
  over almost three years now, having one of my very best friends come on and talk to us
• 36:53
  about how creepy they are.
• 36:55
  I know.
• 36:56
  And I'm maybe almost there.
• 37:01
  I was like excited.
• 37:02
  I'm like, yeah, let's do this.
• 37:03
  Let's do it.
• 37:04
  Let's do it.
• 37:05
  I want to hear these spooky stories.
• 37:08
  Working up to it.
• 37:09
  You boys like Mexico.
• 37:11
  Oh, okay, Karen.
• 37:13
  I feel like we had to like take a second after the story.
• 37:19
  Wow.
• 37:22
  I am glad though that you told this thing that it's not okay to leave the door open when
• 37:27
  your little brother is there.
• 37:29
  I think you said little brother, right?
• 37:32
  Alone.
• 37:33
  That's dangerous.
• 37:34
  Anyone could get in.
• 37:36
  Yeah.
• 37:37
  Talk with the doors.
• 37:38
  It sounds like he's obviously old enough to be home alone.
• 37:41
  So it's not dangerous in the sense that he could wander out.
• 37:44
  But if he's like, yeah, but if someone came in and he's not clearly not paying attention.
• 37:51
  Right.
• 37:52
  Well, you never know the next time he could be babysitting someone who is little enough
• 37:57
  and they wander outside and that's dangerous.
• 38:00
  I mean, I'm not like trying to put that out into the universe or the ether.
• 38:05
  Yeah, you know, good on you for shutting that shit down.
• 38:11
  I hope it stays away.
• 38:12
  I hope it's not anything like malicious.
• 38:17
  Just maybe like a little trickstery, but nothing malicious, I hope.
• 38:21
  So let's send our stay outside vibes to the little white creepy thing.
• 38:29
  Hit one.
• 38:31
  Yes, Cassie.
• 38:34
  We have an update, some breaking news about this episode.
• 38:40
  Kind of scared to ask.
• 38:42
  We are coming to you guys from the future because we recorded that episode a while ago.
• 38:48
  That is true.
• 38:49
  Oh, I totally forgot that.
• 38:54
  I'm so glad I wrote this down.
• 38:56
  You have to leave all of this in now because I want people to understand the suspense.
• 39:01
  Oh, I will.
• 39:03
  Okay.
• 39:04
  Karen.
• 39:05
  Karen emailed us back.
• 39:07
  Is she okay?
• 39:08
  Is Karen okay?
• 39:10
  Karen is okay.
• 39:11
  Okay.
• 39:12
  Because we did get some emails back from her up before we recorded and she said she is
• 39:17
  okay.
• 39:18
  She does continue to be okay.
• 39:20
  Excellent.
• 39:21
  I just basically emailed her after we read it and said we appreciate your stories because
• 39:26
  she wrote us the story.
• 39:28
  Some of that stuff happened.
• 39:29
  So we don't go putting yourself in harm's way to just to write us a story.
• 39:36
  So just, you know, everyone take this as a precaution and be careful if you're writing
• 39:40
  stories.
• 39:41
  Yes.
• 39:42
  Yes.
• 39:43
  Yeah, we don't want anything bad to happen.
• 39:44
  Just so we can have a story to read.
• 39:47
  Yeah, guys.
• 39:48
  We are more than content creators.
• 39:51
  We are human beings and so are you.
• 39:54
  We love you.
• 39:55
  We love you.
• 39:56
  We love you.
• 39:57
  So I got an email back from Karen.
• 39:59
  And I clicked on it and you know, there was a preview of the email.
• 40:06
  It had a sentence there.
• 40:08
  I clicked on it and it is completely gone.
• 40:13
  This is the one that you told me about.
• 40:16
  Yes.
• 40:17
  Isn't it?
• 40:18
  I did take a screenshot of the like showing the preview.
• 40:24
  So I do have that evidence, but I don't think I can make that happen on my phone right
• 40:27
  now or find the photo.
• 40:29
  But I can post it if anyone wants to see it.
• 40:32
  So I went with email back and I was like, well, not to like make things any weirder, but
• 40:38
  I see the message preview for your email and I open it.
• 40:41
  It's completely blank.
• 40:42
  Oh my God.
• 40:45
  So she says, I can't see it either.
• 40:49
  That is very weird, but it did let me copy and paste.
• 40:51
  So let's try again.
• 40:53
  So that this one did come through.
• 40:55
  Did it.
• 40:56
  Did it fall?
• 40:57
  It did.
• 40:58
  She was talking about how she didn't want to accidentally invite it into the house, which
• 41:04
  yeah, don't do that.
• 41:06
  That's a major concern.
• 41:09
  But she still sees it every now and then, but mostly like outside the property line.
• 41:14
  It hasn't come close so she's not that worried about it.
• 41:18
  And she said someone is usually praying.
• 41:21
  So I'd say the house is pretty blessed.
• 41:23
  So good.
• 41:24
  Keep the evil out.
• 41:25
  Okay.
• 41:26
  I'm worried about it.
• 41:29
  Yeah.
• 41:31
  So anyway, very weird that she was continuing to talk about these things and this email just
• 41:39
  disappeared.
• 41:40
  It was there, but it wasn't.
• 41:42
  Oh my God.
• 41:43
  I don't know that that's ever happened to me, but I've seen.
• 41:48
  Maybe.
• 41:49
  I don't know.
• 41:50
  I've had emails that legitimately disappeared, like as part of like a technical thing with like
• 42:02
  Google, right?
• 42:04
  Right.
• 42:05
  Just stuff.
• 42:06
  Just it's just gone.
• 42:07
  But not like gone gone, you know, right?
• 42:10
  Exactly.
• 42:11
  Like gone, gone, gone.
• 42:13
  Like I don't see a preview.
• 42:14
  There's no indication of it in my email.
• 42:19
  But this is like, this is different.
• 42:23
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  Very weird, very weird.
• 42:26
  Well, I don't quite remember what I think I was just, oh, I was just laying in bed watching
• 42:30
  TV and I felt like something tapped the top of my foot.
• 42:35
  I think this happened right after a right before the emails.
• 42:38
  I cannot remember.
• 42:39
  I should have wrote that down to.
• 42:41
  Really?
• 42:42
  So yeah, I was just laying in bed and my toes, you know, were just like up and I just felt
• 42:45
  like that, just like something tapped the top of my toes.
• 42:49
  And then later I was still watching TV and I see like out of the corner of my eye, this
• 42:55
  curtain right here.
• 42:58
  It did like a wave, like when a breeze rolls through the curtain.
• 43:04
  And I looked and I was like, there's no breeze in here.
• 43:10
  Yeah.
• 43:11
  I can pegs for it.
• 43:12
  I just don't want to.
• 43:14
  Yeah.
• 43:17
  So that was kind of weird.
• 43:19
  Neither time I didn't feel like that scared or uncomfortable.
• 43:23
  I was just kind of like, what?
• 43:25
  Like did I actually see that?
• 43:26
  So it wasn't like a light playing trick on me.
• 43:29
  I had my bedroom light on.
• 43:31
  The door was closed.
• 43:32
  I've never seen my curtains wave in the breeze before because there's no breeze in my
• 43:38
  damn room.
• 43:39
  I was going to say, like, I think the window would have to be open.
• 43:42
  Yeah, it wasn't open.
• 43:46
  And there's not like cracks in the window where you know something it slipped through.
• 43:50
  I've never seen this.
• 43:52
  And like when I smoke in my room, it just hovers.
• 43:55
  So you know, like there's no air circulation in here unless I have a fan on and I didn't
• 44:00
  have the fan on.
• 44:01
  I didn't have on the heat.
• 44:02
  Yeah.
• 44:03
  Okay.
• 44:04
  So that was kind of weird.
• 44:06
  It did cleanse my room the other day just in case.
• 44:08
  Yeah, I don't know to make of it.
• 44:10
  So I don't know if it's the same kind of thing messing with me or what?
• 44:15
  Karen, what do you think?
• 44:16
  Let me know.
• 44:17
  Karen, help us.
• 44:19
  And then we did get another email back from the last creepy people chronicles when we
• 44:25
  read.
• 44:26
  It was one about the sisters.
• 44:28
  Oh, yes.
• 44:29
  Anonymous emailed back about the tarot card that we pulled.
• 44:35
  And they say the tarot, the tarot read was actually more spot on than you could realize.
• 44:42
  And I enjoyed learning more about St. Frigid, which I guess we talked about in probably an
• 44:47
  extra extra type of thing.
• 44:49
  There were some weird synchronicities actually with the card you pulled and some things you
• 44:54
  ladies discussed.
• 44:55
  Interesting.
• 44:56
  So we know nothing about their life or the story.
• 45:01
  We just kind of talk about what we think about it.
• 45:03
  So apparently it was on.
• 45:06
  So that's pretty cool.
• 45:07
  We love to hear validation of the cards we pull.
• 45:11
  And even if you don't give us details on what, like you don't have to tell us why if it,
• 45:15
  we just want to know that you're which is we did a good job.
• 45:18
  Well, and if it makes sense for you, if it provides you something that you were looking
• 45:24
  for, something you were needing, I love to hear that.
• 45:28
  And if it didn't, then we know we probably need to cleanse the deck.
• 45:36
  Yeah, yeah, let us know if it didn't, too, I guess.
• 45:40
  Do we want to open ourselves up to that?
• 45:42
  I don't know.
• 45:43
  I mean, I got to tell my little story.
• 45:47
  It's pretty short.
• 45:48
  Okay.
• 45:49
  So I did talk about the bunny.
• 45:50
  It's the same place.
• 45:52
  The same little park area, same trail as the bunny trail.
• 45:56
  So they're like, I've seen the bunny trail now.
• 46:00
  I've seen the bunny every other time now.
• 46:03
  I've been there.
• 46:04
  I want to go every time.
• 46:06
  I want to go to there.
• 46:07
  Come over.
• 46:08
  We'll go and walk.
• 46:09
  Okay.
• 46:10
  Literally, whenever it's right there, it's not that hard to get to.
• 46:13
  I want to go.
• 46:14
  Okay.
• 46:15
  So there is this magical little tree stump with like two trees around it.
• 46:21
  It's a tree stump.
• 46:22
  It's all mossy little grassy's poking up.
• 46:26
  It's so flippant cute.
• 46:28
  And I always just like think that it's like a fairy mound.
• 46:33
  Every time I just like, I just know that it's a fairy mound.
• 46:37
  I don't know why.
• 46:38
  Don't ask me.
• 46:39
  It's just the thing I know.
• 46:42
  So every time I walk by, I've never like gone up to it because I don't want to disturb
• 46:46
  the fairies.
• 46:47
  But every time I walk by, I acknowledge it and I just like think about how beautiful
• 46:52
  it is.
• 46:53
  So the last time I was there, I was taking
• 46:56
  videos and pictures of mushrooms for a little TikTok.
• 47:00
  I wanted to do it.
• 47:04
  And I felt like, okay, I think I'm like, I feel like invited over to this little stump.
• 47:11
  Oh, also another story.
• 47:14
  High honor.
• 47:15
  I was like, I'm going on a walk.
• 47:17
  I need to find cute mushrooms.
• 47:19
  I was like, obviously, I'm asking the universe to give me cute mushrooms and they fucking
• 47:23
  delivered.
• 47:25
  So anyway, I walk up to the stump and I'm looking at it.
• 47:28
  I'm like, it's so freaking beautiful.
• 47:30
  And then I go around the back of it and there's little tiny mushrooms just like, like going
• 47:37
  up the stump.
• 47:38
  It's, oh my god.
• 47:39
  I got a little video of it.
• 47:41
  You saw it in the video.
• 47:42
  I don't know if you remember the little tiny mushrooms.
• 47:45
  But they were so cute.
• 47:46
  I was like, this has, this is a fairy house.
• 47:49
  Like there's no other explanation.
• 47:51
  I can't with how cute this is.
• 47:54
  And I think we figured out where your mushroom take talk needs to go.
• 47:59
  I know.
• 48:00
  Yeah.
• 48:01
  So if you want to see the adorable mushrooms and you do, I probably feel so cute.
• 48:07
  I was like, can we post this today?
• 48:09
  Are mushrooms are they on brand or are they trending right now?
• 48:15
  They're always trending.
• 48:16
  They're so cute.
• 48:18
  I also met a lady there who had like a camera and she was taking pictures of stuff and
• 48:23
  she saw me over by the stump being weird.
• 48:26
  And I was like, she was kind of looking at me and I was like, there's cute mushrooms over
• 48:30
  here.
• 48:31
  So she came by and she took little pictures of the mushrooms.
• 48:34
  And then later we bumped into each other again and she asked, she wanted to take a picture
• 48:39
  of me for me with my phone.
• 48:41
  And I was like, girl, I look, I'm on a walk.
• 48:46
  I don't look right.
• 48:47
  Do you want to see?
• 48:48
  You go.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:50
  I don't think I sent it to you because I was like really embarrassed.
• 48:53
  I was on my period.
• 48:55
  I'm all bloated.
• 48:56
  I look terrible.
• 48:57
  This is a person on a walk.
• 49:04
  Not ready to be photographed.
• 49:06
  I'm like, oh god, stop taking a picture.
• 49:10
  You're like, yeah.
• 49:11
  But she was really sweet.
• 49:12
  She wanted to take my picture of me.
• 49:14
  So I kept them because.
• 49:16
  Oh, no, look at her.
• 49:18
  Remember the day you do literally.
• 49:21
  It's like something magical happens to me every time I go on a walk there.
• 49:24
  It's crazy.
• 49:25
  Well, should we do the tear it?
• 49:27
  No, let's do the tarot.
• 49:29
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• 49:50
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• 50:19
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• 50:22
  And don't worry, we did get more wine.
• 50:24
  Well, of course.
• 50:29
  Are we doing for me or Karen first?
• 50:31
  Let's do Karen first.
• 50:32
  Okay.
• 50:33
  I'm feeling Karen first.
• 50:37
  Oh, damn.
• 50:40
  Oh, damn.
• 50:41
  Okay.
• 50:42
  I also recently learned that the big tarot cards are not meant for shuffling.
• 50:47
  They're meant for doing the fluffy thing like I tried to do sometimes.
• 50:51
  That's so funny, because I did a tarot reading for my mom the other night, and she instinctively
• 50:57
  wanted to do that.
• 51:00
  Do what?
• 51:01
  The fluffy thing?
• 51:02
  This thing?
• 51:03
  Yeah, weird.
• 51:05
  Were they big cards or normal sized?
• 51:07
  No, they were the big cards.
• 51:09
  I took the modern witch deck over.
• 51:11
  Nice.
• 51:12
  Oh, that's so cute.
• 51:14
  She was like seriously about to hyperventilate.
• 51:17
  When I do tarot with your mom, I know.
• 51:21
  We'll play in a day.
• 51:24
  Should we have a mom tarot night?
• 51:26
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  How cute would that be?
• 51:28
  Let's do it.
• 51:29
  Do you think our moms would get along?
• 51:32
  Yeah, because they're both adorable.
• 51:34
  I feel like my mom just gets along with anyone like me.
• 51:36
  I feel like you need to draw it.
• 51:38
  I draw it.
• 51:39
  Karen.
• 51:40
  Oh my god, that's so weird.
• 51:43
  Okay.
• 51:44
  I'm going to let you vana.
• 51:47
  Okay.
• 51:48
  Ooh.
• 51:49
  It's a cut.
• 51:50
  It's a cut.
• 51:51
  Okay, this is one of my firsts.
• 51:52
  In the reverse.
• 51:53
  I was getting for a lot of times.
• 51:54
  I did not say that sentence, right?
• 51:56
  Nope.
• 51:57
  I was getting for a lot of times.
• 52:00
  That was fun.
• 52:01
  That was fun.
• 52:02
  You're as many words.
• 52:04
  Oh.
• 52:05
  This is a beautiful, what is the side?
• 52:08
  Hydrangea.
• 52:09
  Hydrangea.
• 52:10
  I pulled that out of my butt.
• 52:12
  Huh?
• 52:14
  Okay.
• 52:16
  Okay.
• 52:17
  I just want to say the hydrangea is a flower that has overwhelmingly positive vibes for
• 52:26
  me.
• 52:27
  Oh no.
• 52:28
  So I think that's good.
• 52:30
  Yeah, I think that's good.
• 52:33
  That is good since we're trying to send her positive vibes.
• 52:36
  All right.
• 52:43
  Keywords are new love beginning a creative activity and joy.
• 52:46
  Ace of cups, right?
• 52:47
  Ace of cups.
• 52:48
  I don't know why I just feel like that really throws me off.
• 52:52
  The image really did something to my brain.
• 52:56
  The image on here or on here?
• 52:58
  That one.
• 52:59
  Okay.
• 53:00
  On the PNW deck.
• 53:01
  A single large chalice appears on the Ace of Cups.
• 53:06
  Sometimes water flows out of it, fountain like, or the cup sits in water.
• 53:13
  In the writer weight Smith deck, a hand emerging from a cloud offers the cup as a gift to you.
• 53:21
  This represents a gift of love, either of a personal or divine nature.
• 53:28
  Interesting because I was like sending her.
• 53:30
  Yeah.
• 53:31
  Like love and positivity.
• 53:32
  Like spiritual.
• 53:33
  Yeah.
• 53:34
  Yeah.
• 53:35
  This Ace reminds us of the Holy Grail, the most famous chalice of all, which some people
• 53:45
  believe now lies in the chalice well in Glastonbury, England.
• 53:51
  Glastonbury.
• 53:52
  That's like the craftiest you've ever said before.
• 53:55
  Blind.
• 53:56
  Glastonbury.
• 53:57
  Thank you.
• 53:58
  You're welcome.
• 54:00
  Oh, man.
• 54:01
  I don't know why that image.
• 54:04
  Well, I know why.
• 54:05
  I know why.
• 54:06
  But it's interesting that it like doesn't have any water on it.
• 54:11
  And this is like a super like watery card.
• 54:14
  It is, but it's a blue hydrangea on a blue background.
• 54:18
  That is true.
• 54:19
  There's one extra excerpt, but I'm going to read the interpretation first because it's
• 54:24
  in the reverse.
• 54:25
  The reverse Ace can indicate a delay in starting a relationship.
• 54:30
  It can also mean a romance that seemed promising doesn't develop or turn out as you'd hoped.
• 54:38
  This may not be the right time to start something new.
• 54:43
  Maybe it's not romantic.
• 54:44
  Maybe it's like a gnome or elf type relationship.
• 54:48
  I was feeling like that.
• 54:51
  That one wants a relationship with you, but you don't want a relationship with it.
• 54:54
  Yeah.
• 54:55
  In a reading about money, the reverse Ace suggests you may have to wait a while to profit
• 55:02
  from a new venture or it can mean you won't make as much as you'd expected.
• 55:09
  If the reading is about your work, you may encounter delays.
• 55:13
  Did you hear something?
• 55:15
  No.
• 55:16
  Okay.
• 55:17
  My chair moved weird.
• 55:18
  I felt like it was breaking it.
• 55:19
  Oh, okay.
• 55:20
  It's like moving weird.
• 55:21
  Oh, okay.
• 55:22
  I sit in the chair all the time.
• 55:24
  Okay.
• 55:25
  Okay.
• 55:26
  Oh.
• 55:27
  If the reading is about your work, you may encounter delays in landing your dream job.
• 55:35
  For creative people, this Ace can represent a dry spell when you feel stifled or uninspired.
• 55:43
  In a reading about love, you may run into obstacles, limitations or disappointments.
• 55:49
  I feel like it's just saying the obstacle was the clear obstacle.
• 55:55
  Yeah.
• 55:56
  Like there was a little thing flippin' around that you didn't want around.
• 55:59
  Flippin'.
• 56:00
  It did take a while for it to actually go away.
• 56:04
  So yeah, there's that.
• 56:07
  Okay.
• 56:08
  I'm going to read the extra excerpt and we'll see if Karen thinks this applies in a way.
• 56:15
  I don't know.
• 56:17
  It doesn't make sense to us, but it makes sense to you guys.
• 56:20
  Yeah, definitely.
• 56:21
  A wicked blessing.
• 56:23
  Sharing a beverage in a chalice is a popular practice in Wicken rituals.
• 56:31
  Sometimes the chalice is offered with the blessing, "May you never thirst."
• 56:35
  Yeah.
• 56:36
  Unlike Cassie in this moment.
• 56:39
  I'm, that's why I was like on Thursday.
• 56:43
  Because the chalice is passed from one person to another, it may feature a long stem that
• 56:50
  makes it easier to handle.
• 56:54
  That's interesting because the hydrangea has a very long stem.
• 56:59
  Oh.
• 57:00
  Because it's basically, it's a bush essentially.
• 57:03
  It's flowers.
• 57:04
  Yeah.
• 57:05
  Tresting.
• 57:06
  Are we in a drug cart for you?
• 57:09
  Yeah, let's do it.
• 57:10
  Yeah, I just feel like this one was a lot about emotional energy.
• 57:16
  It was one of these keywords.
• 57:17
  I don't know if it's on there.
• 57:19
  But I'm just like, yeah, I wasn't sending you positive vibes for this thing to go away.
• 57:25
  You're using your emotional energy to try to send this thing away.
• 57:29
  Yeah, I think that's kind of what it was all about.
• 57:31
  Anyway, Karen, let us know.
• 57:32
  What was my story about?
• 57:34
  Oh, yeah.
• 57:35
  The kids' story.
• 57:38
  Yeah, yeah.
• 57:39
  Oh.
• 57:40
  Okay.
• 57:41
  Five of swords.
• 57:42
  And her fingers.
• 57:44
  I just, yeah, I think that's the one.
• 57:48
  It literally flew out.
• 57:50
  Like, can we rewind the tape so much?
• 57:53
  I don't think we need to.
• 57:56
  I'm just deeply uncomfortable for personal reasons.
• 57:59
  The owl eating the mouse.
• 58:02
  Something.
• 58:03
  It's a rodent to some sort.
• 58:04
  A little critter.
• 58:05
  A little critter.
• 58:06
  A little critter.
• 58:07
  It's a squirrel.
• 58:08
  Okay.
• 58:09
  Yeah.
• 58:10
  Okay.
• 58:11
  I was going to say it looks like a squirrel, but it's so tiny, but owls are bigger than what
• 58:17
  most of us visualize, I think.
• 58:20
  Okay.
• 58:21
  Five of swords.
• 58:23
  Our keywords are change, adjustment, loss, destruction, conflict, indecision, and sadness.
• 58:34
  The number five signifies change, and this card shows a time of adjustment after a conflict
• 58:41
  of some kind.
• 58:44
  Sometimes the fight stems from ideological or spiritual differences.
• 58:53
  The writer, wait, Smith, Aquarian and some other decks show a soldier on the battlefield
• 58:59
  at the end of a fight.
• 59:01
  The card asks, what have you won or lost?
• 59:05
  You don't have to answer now.
• 59:07
  I don't know.
• 59:09
  Reverse the five suggests pretty much the same thing as it does upright.
• 59:15
  When the card appears reversed in a reading, however, you may feel a great sense of remorse,
• 59:23
  regret, or unhappiness.
• 59:26
  Sometimes it shows you making repairs or reparations after a conflict, trying to set things right
• 59:33
  and learning from your suffering.
• 59:37
  In a reading about money, the reversed five can indicate losses after a fight, perhaps
• 59:44
  a legal matter or squabble over an inheritance.
• 59:49
  In the end, no one really wins and you may experience regret.
• 59:54
  In decision or unwillingness to make necessary changes could be costly too.
• 1:00:02
  If the reading is about your job, struggles with bosses or coworkers may cause hard feelings
• 1:00:09
  or impede your progress.
• 1:00:12
  A conflict may damage your chances for advancement, perhaps causing you to change jobs with
• 1:00:20
  or under unfavorable circumstances.
• 1:00:27
  In a reading about love.
• 1:00:31
  In a relationship about love.
• 1:00:32
  Yeah, they're not all based on love.
• 1:00:35
  In a reading about love, this card can indicate mourning the loss of a relationship or regretting
• 1:00:42
  a decision made in the heat of an argument.
• 1:00:46
  Perhaps you feel betrayed.
• 1:00:48
  In some cases, however, it can suggest trying to repair the damage and make constructive
• 1:00:54
  changes, perhaps with the help of therapy.
• 1:01:00
  Okay, she has no strong feelings on the topic, ladies and gents.
• 1:01:07
  Taro, this is not about what happened in my story.
• 1:01:14
  I think that the Taro may have been using your reading to reinforce a different message.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, it likes to do that.
• 1:01:23
  We're going to talk about it offline.
• 1:01:25
  Go to therapy, bitch.
• 1:01:26
  That's literally the message.
• 1:01:30
  Oh, I think there is literally another message.
• 1:01:34
  She'll have to tell it to me because I don't know.
• 1:01:37
  Nope, I know.
• 1:01:38
  We're going to talk about it offline.
• 1:01:40
  We're going to talk about it offline.
• 1:01:41
  Are you mad at me?
• 1:01:42
  Are we in conflict?
• 1:01:43
  No.
• 1:01:44
  Who am I in conflict with?
• 1:01:46
  Myself?
• 1:01:48
  Probably.
• 1:01:49
  Go to therapy, bitch.
• 1:01:50
  Oh, man.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah, I had a meltdown the other day.
• 1:01:54
  It's fine.
• 1:01:55
  Everything's okay.
• 1:01:56
  Fine.
• 1:01:57
  But man, I was in conflict with myself that day.
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  Yeah.
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  There was a lot going through my mind that day.
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  I can have so much for that.
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  I can have so much for that.
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  Everything in runaway.
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  It listen to happens to the best of us.
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  That's exclusively, I would argue.
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  I think so too.
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  If you're doing something, you're probably going to get frustrated at some point.
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  At least you're doing something, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And it turns out that even if what you think you do is awesome, there are people that think
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  that you are not awesome.
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  Yes.
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  So there are people with opinions and opinions are what, Caitlin?
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  They're like assholes.
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  Yeah.
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  You're not the first person to tell me that this week.
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  Anywho.
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  All right.
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  Well, that was really something.
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  You're going to have to do the clean wrap on this because I am a little bit still reeling
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  and we're going to get into it off like I cannot believe this.
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  I cannot believe this.
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  I don't know.
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  The clean wrap is I goodbye.
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  There's a lot going on.
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  I don't know.
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  There's a lot of swords coming around a lot.
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  God, there's so much.
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  So much has happened.
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  I really, really, really, really need to, I need to get this out of my brain before we forget
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  that because I think this is a very strong message about something for us.
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  So we got to go.
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  I'm not ready to spill the peens.
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  Spill the peens.
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  I don't know.
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  Are we going to go?
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  Yeah, we're going to go have a creepy ass day.
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  See you next Tuesday.
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  Probably.
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  I don't know.
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  We're always back.
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  We say that like it's uncertain, but we're fine.
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  Everything's good.
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  Ish.
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  Thank you, Karen.
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  Send us all your stories all the time.
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  We want them all.
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  All your Mexico stories.
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  I'm so excited.
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  All of the stories from everywhere.
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  Mandalay Bay to Mexico.
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  That's like where is that?
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  Is that Vegas?
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  Is that a hotel?
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  Yeah.
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  Sometimes I lose track.
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  So also to be fair, I've been diagnosed with the equivalent of goldfish brain.
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  Just medically.
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  Medical term.
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  So goldfish brain. pnwhauntsandhomicides.com